Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 88: Tarot Cards, Kail’s New House, & Going To Jail

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

Lindsie & Kail talk about tarot cards, manifesting, & Kail's decision to move. They reveal why Kail thinks she is going to jail. They talk about their struggles as moms & how kids are so loud & messy. Lindsie discusses Jackson getting grounded & why it's hard for her. Kail talks about her kids being biracial, watching a movie about it & being concerned for her kids' future. Lindsie talks about having a soft spot for the elderly & why she thinks that they should have more assistance.

Hey guys, welcome to coffee combos. Hey, Lindsay. Hey, Kale. How are you actually really shitty right now? Like really shitty? Are your panties and a knickers or what's that saying? Are your knickers and a wad panties and a wad panties and a wad. But he's British. So he's like, are your knickers and a wad? Can you picture Adam saying that? Yes. In fact, I can. Um, tell me what's wrong. Well, uh, you know, shit. Um, yesterday was a super emotional and like completely chaotic and like nothing could have, first of all, okay, let me backtrack because I don't know if you know this about me and I would go out on a limb here and say most people don't know this about me. I'm like really into like manifesting and

like those kinds of things. And like for my birthday, my friend got me like a deck of tarot cards and like, no, I'm not a witch or a devil, but like these are like, I don't know. Like you just like read them and like maybe there's like a sign in the future or like whatever. And I have crystals, right? Like so I get crystals as gifts and, um, this is, I know you, nobody expects me to be into this shit. So I have like a little altar that's like at the bottom of my stairs and it has a shelf. You know what? I'm going to send the picture so that you can post it on the coffee cavos, um, Instagram, but, um, I have a little shelf that has like my crystals on it. And, um, I really feel like I manifested

this like bad day that I had yesterday because I like, when I think of something really hard, whether it's good or bad, it happens and it happened and I don't want to give specifics, but I was like not prepared for it. And just like I was, my phone's broken still. I'm going to go tonight at six 20. I have an appointment at Apple and like people are trying to get a hold of me and I'm trying to plan like the next shoot with MTV for teen mom too. And it's like, I can't text. So I'm, they're emailing me, but my space bar is broken on my laptop. And then, you know, just like bars broken. Yes. None of this can be real life. Like nobody real life, a broken phone, a broken space bar. Yes. And I'm like frustrated because

I'm having a party, a birthday party for my friend on Saturday here. And then we leave for Hawaii on Sunday. I'm trying to like get with you to figure out what we're going to do for podcasts. And then Lincoln's passport needs to be renewed, but Javi and I have two totally different schedules and it's just been like a lot of things at one in one short time. And I, it's just been pure chaos. And honestly, like nothing could have prepared me for yesterday. And I'll tell you like off the podcast, but basically like my life is a shit show. Well, I mean, as if we didn't know this already, I'm sure it's just like something that's added to the chaos. So update me though on all the things moving for you.

Okay. So as you guys know, I like have been up and down back and forth with the decision to move to build to buy to stay where I'm at. And you know, when I think I'm firm on the decision, it just, it never, I just not. So long story short, I'm still moving. I found a house. It's I'm not building it. I bought it in the same development, but it's already built because I guess it's cheaper per square foot to buy a house versus build one. Yep. So, but with everything that's going on and like leaving for Hawaii for three weeks and like I'm going to jail when I get back, like I just going to jail. You say that so casually, like you're going to be locked up. Like I don't understand. I'm laughing because it's

like, okay, I don't know for a hundred percent sure I'm going to jail, but like there's a possibility I guess that I could go to jail. And I just think that I just have a lot going on. So right, we're going to be gone for three weeks. I have the closing for my house is next month, but then like I have Lux's birthday party and then you, me and V are going to Atlanta. So I don't think I'm going to actually move into my new house until August. Why are you laughing? Because this is just not normal. Like it's just truly not normal. I think that we need to like reevaluate a lot of things. Okay. But like where like, this is like the simple life. We are the 2019 version of the simple life. Well, let me tell you, okay.

So because of kills chaos, my entire upstairs is torn apart and my heart with floors aren't going in this week because there was no possible way that I could have people like nailing with hammers with hardwood floors and also be recording. So true. Yeah. So my whole house is a shit show and I'm just not used to it. And so I don't like it. I don't think I could ever conform. So I don't, I personally don't know how you do it and I don't know how you do it and like stay above water. Cause I feel like I'm drowning. Drowning. Drowning. I think it's drowning. Whatever. Drowning. Drowning. The past tense would be drowned like he drowned, but drowning. It's fine. It's fine. You know what? I don't know when I, because I feel

like my life was, no, I don't, I don't think my life was ever just like calm ever. So I think I was just like born this way and then it like continued. So that's why I gave birth to Lincoln and Lux in silence. Cause I was like, you know what, if this room is like so fucking loud and obnoxious like it was for Isaac, they're probably going to be like chaos or how to have been some type of like calm and like normal, you know? Yeah. But then I feel like Isaac might be your calmest child. No, fuck no. People think that people think that, but he's the, he has a fire in him. He is feisty. Like he is feisty. Oh my gosh.

He is kale and kale is him. Isaac is, um, he is in this stage where he is trying to, I guess, determine whether he's like a leader or like someone who's like goes, goes with the flow, you know, because I had like all my friends, kids here and like, I call him my nephew, but it's really Chris's nephew here. And like he, you can tell the difference in how he acts around certain people to like kind of feel it out. Like, am I the leader? Am I going to stand? You know what I mean? Like it's like that weird age and I feel like I hope that he figures it out without, I don't want to like sway him, you know? Right. Well, do you think he's going to be a leader or a follower?

I think he's going to be a leader. I think he's going to be a leader, but he's a Capricorn. So he's definitely going to be a leader. He's bossy. Jackson's a Capricorn too. I love a cap. I love a Capricorn. Yes. See, I do. It's like my most compatible sign. I do well with Capricorns, but Isaac and I butt heads a lot, which people probably wouldn't guess either. Um, Isaac and I butt heads a lot, but I think it's because we're both, um, very bossy. And, um, did you know that we actually have three signs? We don't actually have one.

Wait, where did this come from? Where did this news come from? So I have this app. I know, I'm, I literally, I probably sound like a witch. People are going to think that I'm like crossing over to the dark side, um, which is fine because I'll just, it's fine. Um, okay. So I have this app called co-star and you put in the date that you were born and the exact time. So like I was born March 14th in Homestale, Pennsylvania, and I was born at four 15 in the afternoon. So I, we all have three signs. My, um, I'm going to read you mine. My chart. So there's a chart birth chart. Uh, my son is in Pisces so that I was born March 14th. I'm a Pisces, but only a Pisces in, um, it's

the core of who I am and the sign that I'm most likely to already know. Um, so my son is in Pisces, meaning that I'm fundamentally dreamy, insightful, and in my own world. I exist on a chaotic plane of the divine and that's, that is not all at all materialistic. Um, but my moon is in Leo. So my emotions, my moods and my feelings, that's a Leo. And then, um, what people think that I am when they first meet me is a Virgo because I am like bossy, meticulous, and they think that I have my shit together, but when they actually know me, I don't have my shit together at all. Yeah. Cause see, I feel like I'm a Virgo like through and through.

Okay. And that's very possible. Well, I guess like, so each planet that, I guess there's more than three signs, but like those are like my three signs. Um, I would be curious to know like what your other signs are. So when we get off this podcast, I'm going to put it in and I'm going to see. Yeah. That would be very interesting to know. We'll keep you guys updated on that. Okay. Guys, summer is here and a lot of people don't like that. That means less clothing and pressure to have a beach body. I say everybody is a beach body, but if you need a confidence boost or you just want to get strong and more fit, then give open fit a try.

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information totally free. Again, text coffee to 30, 30, 30. But finished telling me about your house. Oh, what do you want to know? Just like everything like you're moving, you're living like in a different place. Are you excited about it? Are you nervous about it? Are you indifferent about it? No, I'm very excited and I want to be excited, but I feel like Twitter trolls are like trying to figure out where I live so hard that they've like put out an address and stuff that I live with that. And I'm like, okay, first of all, no. Second of all, it's like, I'm very excited and I'm like so pumped to like decorate and kind of like have a fresh start and like clean

everything out and like reorganize and just like, it's like a fresh start, right? However, I'm nervous because it's right in the middle of all the dads, right? So it's like perfect for if I need help with Lux, like Christmas family can come help, but it's not too far from Isaac and Lincoln school that they're currently at so that I can be there and like still take them to sports. I guess like the hardest part for me is like, and obviously it's self inflicted because I have three baby dads, but it's like, I'm going to be spreading myself so thin to be in the middle to make it work for everybody versus like I'm basically putting everyone else's needs first. Like, and that's, I mean, I guess that's fine, but

it's hard because also like Chris can't help that he lives and works in Wilmington. Like he can't help that. And like, that's where he's from. Like I don't want to expect him to pick up and move. And then also same for like Joe and be like, they already have a house here. Like I can't expect them to like move closer. Have you just bought a house with Lauren? Like I can't. So it's like, I'm trying to be in the middle so that it's easy for everybody, but I think it's like not going to be easy for me in that aspect. But as far as like the house goes, like I want to have like, it's going to be, we're outgrown of this house that I'm in now. So we've outgrown it and I'm just excited to kind of have that

fresh start, but it's nervous like starting over. Like I've only been in Delaware for five years and now I'm going to move to a completely different town. So I don't know anyone. I don't have like a regular grocery store there. Like it's like really like full on changing. Well, okay. The weird thing is, is like, I don't like change, but it's weird because I like moving to like new houses for whatever reason. And I think maybe it's because I did that a lot whenever I was growing up. So it was always like, you move and it's like fresh and new and like a clean start. But for your situation, weren't you married in the house

that you're currently in? Um, yes, we were married for, oh, yeah, September October. We were married for three months still before I filed for divorce. So like we bought this, yeah. So see, like, I feel like it'll be a good, you know, like the new house will fully be yours. Like it closing the door. This house that I live in now is fully mine. Like I refinanced it. It's completely mine. Like, I mean, it was my down payment in the first place, but there's so many bad memories in this house that it's almost just like I'm leaving the negativity and like I'm going to sage the fuck out of it because the next people that live here, like I want them to

love it as much as I did fall in love with this house. Like that's why I live here, you know, right? So in a lot of ways, it had a lot of good memories. I mean, Lux was born in this house. So it's like, there's a lot, but also it's time for like a new start. So I did the inspection. Well, I didn't do it, but I went to the inspection the other day and everything passed. There was only like three quote unquote major things in the new house that need to be fixed. So we asked for that. And then it was so funny because there's a pool at the new house. And the guy like rang the doorbell to come inspect the pool and I was like, Oh, hey, Alan, like what's up? Like I knew who it was. I was like, welcome

to my new home. And he was like, Oh, oh, okay. I was like, this is great. Like you came to inspect the pool. Like you already work on the pool that I have now. Now you're going to work on it here. Like it was kind of funny, but I have already like reached out to a ton of brands and stuff because I want to try to do like instead of like the typical Instagram deals that you and I do and like other reality TV people, I want to do like home stuff. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to do that for my upstairs. But I was just like, I just don't want to be bothered. So I'm just going to what exactly are you doing upstairs? You're putting the hardwood floors in. Is there like a guest room up there or anything? Well, all of my

rooms are upstairs. So I have two guest rooms, Jackson's room, and my master is upstairs. Got it. Okay. So I'm hardwooding everything upstairs, which when we bought it, we did new construction and built this house. So everything upstairs, including the stairs had carpet. And we've talked about this before on the podcast many times, but I did see that you did a poll the other day on Twitter about if you should do carpet in the kids rooms. And so when my hardwood floor guy came out to give me an estimate for everything, he was like, I would highly recommend carpet for the kids rooms. He said only because even though it's harder to keep clean, it's a good noise barrier because if you put hardwood

floors in there, then you're going to hear absolutely everything. So I did decide on the carpet for my guest rooms and Jackson's room. I'm just going to replace the carpet and do like a more, what would you call it, like user friendly, I guess, like carpet, like durable. Yeah, more durable than what I have now. And because the builder put in, you know, what's in now, and then hardwood, everything else. And I have this is so embarrassing, but I've had a new bedroom set for two years. And because I was so undecided about whether if we were going to move or if we were going to stay, I didn't want to put it all together and then have to move it back downstairs. So I was like, I'll just wait on it.

You've had it, but not put together. I thought you meant like you got a new set two years ago. Yeah, no, it's just not put together. Like it's Oh my gosh, Lindsay. Yeah. So I was like, well, if I put this together, then I really want hardwood floors, if we're going to stay, so I don't really want to put it together and then have to move it and then it get like all millions of scratches on it. So I'm like, gosh, I'm so particular. So I will be excited because once my floors go in upstairs and I can get all my new furniture in and I will feel so good. And my goal is is to get it done before school starts. So when school starts, we have our trip to Atlanta plan, which

I live here. So you and V are going to be coming here. And then basically I will just be working from Atlanta and like being a mom that picks up at carpool at three o'clock. And I can't believe it. I'm like, oh my gosh, I've made it you guys. I've been hearing from a lot of people that they finally tried Hello Fresh and they don't know why they waited so long. And totally I get it because once you see how easy, fun and delicious it is, you'll wonder why you didn't try it sooner. Hello Fresh is a meal kit that delivers pre-measured ingredients and delicious, easy to follow recipes so you can give your family a fresh home cooked meal so you get a home cooked meal without the stress. They have three meal

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and enter coffeecombos80 for $80 off your first month of Hello Fresh. Okay, so you for sure putting carpet in the bedrooms. Okay, so the new house already has hardwood throughout the, it's literally hardwood. There's no carpet in the house anywhere, like at all. Right? Not even in the basement. So I'm like, I don't mind, but to me, I feel like it's way easier to vacuum than it is to like sweep and like mop and do all that. Like I'd rather just like vacuum. I don't allow the kids to have food in their rooms. So what's really going to happen up there? Well, okay, so we had this argument in my house too and I want everybody who's listening to weigh in on this. If you prefer carpet in your kids' bedrooms or if

you prefer to have your entire house hardwooded, coming from a person that is extreme clean freak, I like the fact of being able to sweep. I have a rainbow vacuum cleaner for any of you who listen, knows about it. It's a great vacuum cleaner. The filter is just water, so it's like very, very clean. It gets everything super clean. I love to use that thing on my hardwood floors and then mop and I just feel so much better because I feel like there's no like nastiness trapped and with carpet, it makes me feel like even though there's probably nothing, it makes me feel like there might be something. So that was my hesitation to put it in. But I feel like in your situation, if there's already hardwood there, you could

technically just do like really big rugs. Yeah, I mean, that's what the people that live there now have. I also, to be perfectly honest, I hate the color of the wood floors over there. It's what I have now and it's just not a color that I would pick. And so, yeah, I mean, at least if I got big area rugs, it would like somewhat cover up the color. So are you going to live in it like and hate it? No, I mean, I definitely think it's livable. I picked out like colors to paint the walls and stuff like that. And I think that it's livable. Like I mean, I've lived in this house and I've hated the floors, but it's something that I can potentially redo like later on. Yes. Because I mean, they're not horrible

and it's not the house is not very old. So it's like, I don't want to replace something. Don't fix something that's not broken. And I could really resurface them, right? Like or what is called when you redo hardwood floors, like I could probably stain them. Right. Yes. So for anyone who's listening that is interested in like home improvement and interested in knowing like what we're doing as if we even know what we're doing, then make sure you go on our Instagram and leave a comment and let us know because if you are interested in it, then I would like to share more of what I do. And I'm sure kill would like to share more of what she does probably on kill and the chaos because it's probably chaos.

But also if anyone knows cabinet tree people in the tri-state area, I'm willing to get estimates and stuff for the kitchen. But yeah, I would definitely go leave a comment for sure. For sure. Okay. So we've talked about million times about me going to McDonald's and getting a drink every day. Yes, we talked about that so many times. We've also talked about the fact that Jackson loves to collect the toys. So with I've got two different stories about toy story. The first story is going to be that Jackson went to work with me the other day and just didn't listen all day. And I was like, you know what? I hate to have to do this. And I had never done it before. I

was like, I hate to have to do this, but you have plans to go to your Bob on pop is which is Will's parents. I said, but those plans are canceled because you can't mind. And if you can't mind, then you can't go. And he was devastated because toy story four came out on this, whatever, however long ago it came out. And he had a date with his grandparents to go and see the movie. And he was just devastated because he couldn't see it. But my other toy story story was that we've been collecting all the toy story toys from McDonald's. Well, McDonald's made the toy story toy to where you had to have all the parts to make like one toy, but each part is a different toy. Okay. So it's like eight toys and each of

the toys makes an RV. Okay. And you have to have all of the pieces for it to work. So like even if you're missing one, it doesn't work. So every day we would like go and Jackson's like, mom, do you think they got a new toy today? And I'm like, honey, they just got a new toy like less than 24 hours ago. They guarantee do not have a new toy today. They only get shipments on Sunday and Wednesday. Why? No, I was about to say McDonald's gets shipments. Don't know that. But this past weekend, we went to the McDonald's and I was going through and getting a drink and there's just one little guy up there. Super sweet. He's a high school kid and he saw me coming through the drive through and he was like,

you'll be so excited. He said, we got a box that has every toy in it. And he was like, if you want to park and come in, we will help you get all of the pieces that you're missing that you need. And I'm like, thank you, God, because every day Jackson would come home, he would get like a new piece and then it wouldn't fit because he didn't have all of them. Oh, wow. And now we have the entire toy story RV. If you're anything like me, you want your house to be an extension of you and to be a haven for you and your family, a place where you're comfortable and it's a beautiful place to spend your time. And that's why we love Joybird. Joybird is a furniture company that believes that you shouldn't settle

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favorite installment out of all the whole Toy Story series. Toy Story 4 was by far my favorite. Well, Jackson, we've been in Vacation Bible School all week. That's another story for a minute. But he's been asking everybody at Vacation Bible School, so did you go and see Toy Story 4 yet? And when they say yes, he's like, well, so can you tell me like what the main parts of the movie is? Because he really wants to see it so bad. And I feel so bad about not letting him go, but they have to learn to mind. And I didn't know like, I knew that if I let him go and I had warned him so many times and I didn't stick to what I said, then he would think I was a fool. So I was like, I've got to stick by this as

much as I hate to do this. I was like, I've got to, you know, stick to my guns. So what does restriction look like for him now? Restrict? Well, I mean, nothing really. I mean, it's just like I knew the one thing that would really like get to him and it was going to his grandparents and going to see Toy Story 4. So it was like, you're not doing that. But I don't take away everything. Like I'm not one of those. I'm like, you can move on. You don't want to over punish. Right. You keep punishing them for the same thing. So I'm just like, you can move on with like your normal life. You're just not doing this. And so that was effective enough. And so until I'm to find something to be more effective

then I feel like that works for us. But it's really funny because he has been doing chores. I talked about this the last episode. And it's so funny because he's in such a schedule now. He wants to like get up, take a shower, make his bed, eat breakfast. And Will was yelling at him this morning because somehow someone please explain to me how I managed to turn my alarm off, not this morning, not in the morning hours. I managed at some point in my sleep last night to turn off my alarm. What? What do you mean? I said it. I was really exhausted yesterday. So when I went to bed, like I fell asleep watching TV with Jackson. So then I guess we'll put Jackson to bed. And then I woke up at some point, set my alarm,

then woke up at some point and turned my freaking alarm off. And then this morning will was like it's 730. Don't you need to get up? Aren't you going to like vacation Bible school? And I was like, well, yeah, but shouldn't you have thought about it before now? Like you knew that we had to like be out of the house in 30 minutes. Like are you nuts? And normally he's supposed to be up at like 645. So why was his ass still sleeping? I don't know. Are you nuts? Like freaking numb nuts over there, like scratching his balls. I'm like, seriously? Couldn't you have thought about this before like 30 minutes? I've got to scramble the hell around like to get all of this stuff done that I need to get done in the morning.

And I know I have like a crazy morning routine because I shower and Jackson showers and does all of that. But it was just nuts. And then I talked about last week that Della's been sick. She's still been sick. I took her to the vet. She we were there for like three and a half hours. They did all of these tests on her said that her white blood cell count was really high, which indicates that there's an infection. They gave her 10 days worth of antibiotics. Then will comes home. I'm like, can you please take her and Jackson home? And the only thing I need you to do is to put Jackson in the shower and give the dog her medicine. Okay, well, I don't know if you've ever like done this, but maybe when

you're like with Harvey, would you ever like tell him to do something and you might leave out a few details, but you think those few details that you leave out would have been like common sense things. Correct. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So will comes home and literally does exactly as I say, like put Jackson in the shower and shower him and give Della her medicine. Okay, any person knows that if you're giving a dog, a human, whatever medicine that they should you shouldn't be taking any type of medicine really on an empty stomach. Dog has not had any food all day because she's been throwing up and he brings the dog home, gives her a moxacillin and then tries to feed her immediately afterwards. So of course,

she starts throwing up everywhere and I'm like, numb nuts. Like could you have not figured it out and like used a portion of your brain. So I come home with a Chipotle salad, which I know you don't like Chipotle, but I love it. I eat it like five times a week. And then my appetite's completely lost. So needless to say the dog's still on the mend. She doesn't have a fever anymore. And she's been sleeping a lot, but I really don't know what's wrong with her. They said that after that she does this for 10 days. And if she's still not better to bring her back, but I find that kind of weird because I'm like 10 days is kind of a long time. It is a long time. She's very like sleepy. I mean, that's a good sign, though,

because when you sleep, your body's trying to fight the infection. But I mean, do you think like something else could be wrong? I mean, they did all of these tests and they came back with like nothing other than she has an elevated white blood cell count like everything else checked out. I don't know much about animals. I actually have a dog here, Chris's dog that he took to the vet. And I have him now just because it's Chris, you know, works or whatever. But it he, I don't know, like they put him on medicine for 10 days also and he's throws up and I just like, I don't know about the fever thing because Chris didn't say anything. But I don't, I don't know. I don't know anything about

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like, Oh, pill, definitely. And I'm like, what? First of all, Mr. I haven't been here and don't know what's going on. Why would you recommend giving the dog a pill when you can't even get her to eat something? So how are you going to get killed down? That's never have you given a dog liquid medicine before because I haven't. Yeah, I have. And it's so much better. The only thing you have to do is just get a dropper and then like, you have to have two people. You have somebody like will that'll hold them down and their arms and then I open their mouth and then squeeze it to the back of their throat and then that's that's it. Then they've got it. And it's so easy. I mean, okay, well, then

maybe that would have been the better option. Well, that's what we got. We we got the liquid. We didn't get the pill form. So also anybody who's listening that has dogs, have you ever had a situation like this that you feel like you don't really know what's going on and you feel like you've done the right things, but you're not really getting any answers and you feel like it takes a long time for them to get better because it's a little bit different than a kid having like a 24 hour or 48 hour virus. I was thinking like, maybe she has some type of virus or something and then she'll just get over it in like 24 hours, but that never happened. I mean, she could have a virus that just lasts like a week.

Yeah, so I'll keep everybody updated in case anybody cares. So yeah, also, we did a kick off to Vacation Bible School, which was like in our amphitheater and they had like bounties and like all kinds of crap going on, like slushies and crap. So we meet some friends there and we're like walking around. And when I tell you, it literally felt like it was 139 degrees outside. I thought I was melting. And I was wearing like these overalls, like shorts overalls, and I was just extremely like hot. I thought I was gonna have to take my overalls off because I was so hot. But I thought that I was going to pass out. And I've only done this once, like one other time. And it was whenever I was dating Will, and

we were playing like Wiffle ball outside his lake house. And I got like lightheaded. And then I feel like I just like passed out. I don't know why that happened if I got like overheated, if it was like a heat stroke or whatever. So this occasion at the VBS kick off, we go, we get there early because we wanted to get a good parking spot and everything because we knew it would be super crowded. And Jackson's super excited. He's been preparing for this like all weekend. This was like the highlight of the weekend. And we get there and it's like 530. And we've been there literally like 35 or 40 minutes, like maybe. And we've met like family friends up there. They also have kids and Will comes and finds me and

Jackson's running around like a maniac, like all over these places. And Will's like, so I think we're going to go and get something to eat. And I'm like, who's we? And he's like, you know, us and he's like talking about our, you know, family friends and him and I guess Jackson and I, and I'm like, well, no, I don't really think Jackson wants to do that. Like I promised him to bring him to this and it doesn't end until like 730. So I'm not going to make him leave when we've only been here like 35 minutes. That would be wrong. That's basically like introducing a kid to like, Oh, you've been really good and you get to go and do this, but you only get to do it for like 10 seconds and then we're leaving.

Like that's not like a movie. Like you, we're taking you to the movies, but you only get to watch half a movie. Yeah, that's just, that's not a thing. Like you don't do that. No. So then Will's like, all right, well, I'll have my phone on me. We're going to go get some beers. I'm like, first of all, we're at a church function and you're talking about how you're dipping out to go and get some beers. I feel like that's such a man thing to do. It is. Secondly, I have been left by myself in this heat to deal with Jackson and I have all this crap in my hand because I didn't bring a purse. I just brought like my little travel wallet. So I just, I didn't want to

have a bunch of stuff, but without bringing a purse, I accumulated all of this stuff to be carrying. So it was literally like sweating my tits off. And then I like run to some other friends from church and I got lightheaded and had to sit on the grass and I was like, oh my God, I think I'm going to pass out. So then I was thinking, oh my God, what will I do if I pass out and Will's not here and then like Jackson's running around like a maniac, like what am I going to do? But I didn't pass out and we left the event. Jackson got to play for like another hour and a half. We left the event. Will kept blowing up my damn phone cause he was at the Mexican restaurant asking me what I wanted to eat as if I was

in the mood like for this. And I'm just like, come on, like wake up, Will. I feel like that's such a man thing to do. Like most dads, like they're not thinking about the fact that you're melting with your hands full and you're going to have to stay in the heat while they go get some beer. Like I don't think that that's like a thing that crosses their mind at all. Yeah. And I think all the dads were on the same page. Like it wasn't only will because I ran into like some other friends and her husband was like, yeah, I just passed will. He said that they were going to get some beers. And I was like, oh wow. And he was like, oh, look, I'm going to check my phone and will probably wants

me to come up there and get some beers too. And I'm like, no, nobody's text you to go and get some beers. You need to help your wife. Like nobody's text you to go get some beers. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. I just think it's one of those things that they just like don't that they're just not in that headspace. Like they just like don't think about it. Um, totally. All right, guys, I want to take a second to talk about something that all of us can agree on. Nurses, doctors, dentists and people who work in medicine and healthcare are pretty awesome. And all of us can think of a time that a medical professional helped us or a family member. And that's why we love figs.

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came from the gym or whatever. And she was like, sorry, if I stink. And I was like, well, first of all, I don't smell you. But secondly, like, how are you managing to go to the gym in the summer? Because I need to figure that out because that was my concern because I haven't been able to go and she has two kids. So I'm like, okay, I need to figure out how you're doing that. Well, because the gym I go to doesn't have child care. Right. So the gym that she goes to is like one that has 30 minute classes. They're like high intensity. It's 30 minutes only. And they have child care at it. And I was like, it's like a boot camp type place. And I was like, okay, I could really get behind something like that because

I can't it's not like I can just be like, Hey, Jackson, make sure you don't burn the damn house down. I'll be back in like an hour after I get like a run in. I can't do that. Right. So like, how are all these people figuring it out? So I don't know. I haven't been in the gym in over a month because I had I was traveling and I had mono and the kids getting out of school. Like I haven't literally not had the time to go to the gym. So and then like, I would have had time this morning, but then I am not going to be able to go to the gym again until I get back from Hawaii. So it's like, why am I going to go for one day?

Well, yeah, exactly. Then you get in that rut of like, okay, now I'm like sporadically working out at home. So Will's like, are you going to work out and bless his heart? Like he comes home from work. He's probably been sitting in his office for like nine hours of the day. And then he comes home and he's got all the energy in the world to like, you know, work out in the basement. And I'm like, okay, I understand that you do, but I don't have any energy at this point. This week, I have volunteered for a VBS. I have done play dates. I have made appointments. I have worked. I have taken care of a throw up dog. And I still can't like manage to figure out how all of these people are having the time

to go to the gym. But I guess once my friend told me at the park yesterday that the gym that she goes to has childcare, I guess that answers my question. I think also it does. And I'm not this dedicated. So and I'm the first to admit that. But like, I'm also not waking up at 5am to go for a run in my neighborhood while the kids are asleep. Like I'm just not doing the same. That's not happening. I know people who are waking up at 5am to make sure that they get a workout before the kids wake up, whether that's like in their basement or like they run around their little neighborhood or like whatever the case, maybe I'm not doing that. And then I've never really been a person

that works out at night. I mean, if I if I had to I have when I was those few weeks that I was committed, but I don't like to work out at night because one, I've just eaten all day long, like even if it's just like they're my three meals, plus I'm tired from whatever I've done all day. And like it's kind of a drag to work out at night. You know what I mean? My mental state is not enough place to be working out at night. Right. Like you're just exhausted by then. I need like a morning workout and I just need to get back into the routine. I think once the kids get back to school, like do the drop offs and go to the gym. Like that's really what I what I'm aiming for.

But also I'm a very independent person, but I have learned that with working out, I'm co-dependent. So I need to be doing like a class where everybody is suffering as much as I am because if I think I'm suffering alone, I'm not doing it. That's so funny. Yeah, I want everybody to suffer. I prefer to do like my CrossFit workouts because I know that like I'm also like everyone's equally working or like going to a regular gym with a friend. Like that's the best time that or the best way that I like to work out. But no, I feel you. I definitely feel you because I'll be sitting in the parking lot of the gym for like an hour trying to encourage

myself to go into the gym. Like I feel like if I had like a specific class that I had to be there at like a specific time, there was going to be everybody else that are struggling and hating their life as much as I'm hating mine at that moment. Then I would be like perfectly fine with that. But it's just the fact of knowing that I have to like motivate myself. I'm a self-motivator in every other aspect of my life other than the gym, right? And I can't quite figure it out and why that would be like the one thing that I can't like motivate myself for. But when you find the answers, let me know because I haven't I can't figure out why I can only like I'll go six weeks like hardcore committed

to the gym and then I'll fall off for like two to three weeks and then I'll go back and then I'll commit again for like a month and then I'll go back and it's like I just can't I don't get it. And why is it like that? I don't know. I don't know why I'm like that. I don't why maybe I was born like this. Maybe I'm I don't know. Well, maybe we were born this way. Isn't that a Lady Gaga song? Like I'm gonna start singing that. If anybody has the same struggles, please let us know because this struggle actually sucks. Like I would rather have like different struggles than this struggle. But people would probably say that about everything. There is a couple things that okay, I have an article that I want to

tell you about, but also have two things that okay, we saw we talked about. Did we talk about five feet apart? No. Okay. I if we if we haven't, I don't know why I feel like we have I'm not into like sad movies like at all. Like I just watched the notebook for the first time last was it this year or last year? Like very weird in itself. Yeah, like I'm just like not into like sappy movies at all. However, I listened to my friend Becky, which I normally don't ever listen to her. But this one time I fucking listened to her and I turned on this movie called five feet apart and I ugly cried during the whole fucking movie. So if you want in a mood to cry, you need a good cry, you need to release some

tension, watch that movie. It's about it. Have you heard of six cystic fibrosis? Yes. Okay, it's about that. It's called five feet apart. Watch it. You'll ball your eyes out. That's number one. Secondly, I started I we I don't know if we got on the podcast Instagram or on my personal one. I can't remember. But somebody had messaged me or us and had asked if I had started watching when they see us. This is on Netflix and I was not familiar with it. I didn't see it. And she in the message, she said basically had I had I seen this and how do I plan on talking to my kids about it's being that my kids are biracial. So once she said that, I said, Oh, wow, whatever this is, I need to read up on it. I need to watch

it and see what's going on. So about two days ago, I started watching when they see us on Netflix. And when I tell you that I was ugly crying in episode two. Yeah, I've never I literally felt the pain for the kids and the moms in the series because I was like, how crazy to think that like, I don't even know how to describe it. So basically, these kids are charged for a rape and attack that they didn't do. And one of the prosecuting attorneys is like, this isn't about justice. This is about politics. And it was, you know, all the kids that were being blamed for this attack on a runner in Central Park were black and Hispanic. And I, there was no evidence like even linking them, they had they the cops had

them sign written statements that they didn't even write. They did false confessions, making them basically confess to these murders or this this attack by telling them if you admit to this, you can go home. And when I like sit sat there and like really watched even just want episodes one, two and three, I literally was like, Isaac and Lincoln are, and I'm gonna be completely real, like Isaac is blonde hair blue eyes. So he may not be as profiled as my other two, but Lincoln is brown and Lux is black and Hispanic, they all have Hispanic last names, like they could be subjected to this, you know what I'm saying? And so they could be. And so it's like, I'm not really sure how to approach them or how to talk to

them about this. And so, you know, as I'm watching this, I'm literally bawling my eyes out like Isaac and Lincoln are so they are very gentle, they're gentle souls, like they are very sweet. And I do think that if they were in the situation, they would be convinced to do the same. And they would, you know what I mean? So it's just like, I don't even know how to talk to my kids about this, like I don't even know. And I don't think that that's something that crossed my mind prior to having biracial kids, because I just don't think that that's like the one thing, I don't think that's like one of the things that you think about. So it's like, if anyone that's listening has experience with talking to their kids about

this, whether they're biracial or they are, you know, Hispanic, black, whatever the case may be, and you have tips on how I can talk to my kids about this, this is definitely something that I want to kind of be proactive about. And I'm so thankful that this person messaged me about it in the first place. But if you guys have not watched it, it's called when they see us and it's on Netflix. I'm going to watch it, even though I don't have a biracial child, I just want to watch it just to see what it's about. It'll open your eyes, Lindsay. I mean, I really, truly think that there are some people that

don't think that there's still racism today. And there is. I mean, I don't think that we need to necessarily fight it with reverse racism, but I do think that there's still an issue. I think that there's still a problem. And when you see this, you're going, it's going to open your eyes to the way that the system works. And it's scary. It's actually terrifying. That's so sad. Well, I will definitely be catching that. Well, while we're on the topic of sadness, I saw this write up on Facebook and I was like, Oh my gosh, I totally relate. First of all, I don't know if I've talked about this before, but I love old people and

I appreciate it. But I mean, even like whenever I started dating Will, like my first Christmas, Will's mom bought me cleaning supplies. Like she, she went to Target, I think, and got me this huge basket and it had like every like cleaning supply that like I loved in it. She bought me all the things that like I love. So she got me a recipe book that was from like a church and it was like all the elderly people that like put their recipes in it. So she like bought it and she put like a sticky note on it was like, because you love old people. I was like, what's the correlation here?

I bought you this. And so I was like, that was so sweet. But the two times that we've had snow days, I have been super worried about like the elderly people in our community. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And so I told Will, I was like, it should really be like against the law for elderly people to have to get out in extreme weather like this. The government should have some type of system that like takes food or something to like the elderly people or allows them not to have to be out like driving in cars because it's super dangerous. And then I saw Will was like, well, yeah, but they're never going to do that. And I'm like, okay, fine. It was probably a terrible idea, but it sounded good to me. But this

girl puts on Facebook twice this week, I have watched an elderly individual fade into the busy life, which we all live. One man just needed something for his wife, but the shop assistant simply said it's an L six, but he struggled to navigate the supermarket. And as I watched him go in the wrong direction, I left all my groceries and took him where he needed to go. Today I watched an elderly man struggle in the heat who had obviously had a fall with a huge scrape and blood on his leg. He walked past people in the cafe while he slowly made his way to his car, not one person stopped or looked or acknowledged him. I took him to his car and checked if he was okay. He told me that he had a fall

and wasn't sure how the air conditioner worked in his car. So he just didn't use it. I sat with him until his car air conditioning kicked in and I heard him talk about the old freel body that he was in that freels him now in every single day. When you see an elderly person walking down the street, searching in the supermarket or struggling to their car, take a minute out of your busy schedule and ask them if they need a hand. Think about your grandparents and your parents and how upset you would be if someone didn't stop to help them. But more think of them as you. Once upon a time they were you. They were busy. They had work. They had children and they were able. Today they are just an older

body that is not going as fast as it used to and the busy life is confusing. They deserve our utmost respect and consideration. One day it will be you. It will be us. I wish more people cared about them and acknowledged them for their admirable existence. And geez, I hope someday, not that far away, someone does it for me. So, you know, that's such a good topic I feel like to talk about. And I actually have a story about that. So I talk about game night sometimes that we do game night. Well, the one game night we like forgot, it was a bunch of us and I had asked my friend Malik to, I guess he had, I had to go like leave game night to go pick something up and then like, oh, we forgot the games at my house

and then he had to go to the store to like get something. So I was like, let's just ride together and then we'll go like get the games and then get whatever. So it's me, Mike, Malik and the kids in the car. And we go to Red Ners first to pick up whatever Malik needed. And there was an, I want to say it was a woman, an older woman. She like said she didn't remember where she lived. So she didn't remember how to get home. So Malik comes out of Red Ners and he's like, we're going to follow her. She gave me the address. She doesn't know how to get there, but we're going to follow her to like make sure she gets home. Okay. And I was like, so did she get home fine? Yeah, like we, he, we followed her all the

way to her house, waited until she pulled into the driveway and got in the door and then left. Like she, I'm pretty sure he helped her put all the grocery, like I was staying in the car with the kids, but he like helped her get the groceries in the car and everything. See how sad that is. Like, yeah, it's so sad. And then I saw this like at the church this week too. There was this kid that used to be in one of Jackson's classes and his grandparents, I think, raised him. And so his granddad, he's like really old. I mean, I would venture to say he's like in his eighties. Oh wow. And he's very feeble and just, you can tell like, he's just like very like fragile. And he was dropping his grand kid off at the church

for Bible school. And then I was like serving snacks outside and all of a sudden I see this man like walking beside a bike. And I guess like he was out riding his bike and stuff. And he just seemed so sad and like, I don't know, it's just so sad to see him like alone. And then like people don't talk to them sometimes. Like you see like people walking through the church or people walking through like the grocery store and you see like an elderly person and they, you know, people don't like stop to speak or anything like that. Like I always try to talk to them because I feel like other people don't. So maybe they needed some type of interaction, but it just makes me so sad.

That is sad. That's really sad. Tell me about this article that you have. Okay. I'm about to pull it up for you on my phone. Okay. Okay. A woman was a pregnant woman was shot in the stomach and she was charged in her baby's death. Wait, the pregnant woman that was shot? Yes. What? A 27 year old Alabama woman was indicted on manslaughter charges Wednesday for the shooting death of her own unborn child, even though police say another woman pulled the trigger. The woman quickly became a flash point for abortion rights advocates as an example of restrictive abortion laws in Alabama criminalizing actions that may endanger a fetus. So Marsha Jones of Birmingham

was five months pregnant on December 4th when an argument broke out between her and another woman outside a dollar general. The fight which police said was over the fetus's father led 23 year old Ebony Jemison to shoot Jones in the stomach. The mother survived the shooting, but it resulted in a miscarriage. Jemison was charged with manslaughter, but a grand jury failed to indict her and the charge was dismissed. At the time police alleged that Jones started the argument that Jemison shot Jones in self defense. Pleasant Grove police Lieutenant Danny Reed told the outlet a grand jury would consider charges for the mother as well. So I guess because she started the argument, I mean regardless the whole situation is sad,

I just don't know how you, first of all, who the fuck is, you're arguing over the father and who decides to shoot an unborn baby. Like what kind of, I just don't understand the whole scenario, like the whole thing is just so fucked up. Well first of all, they're probably going to try to charge the mother because she started the fight and she shouldn't have been putting herself in that type of situation because at that point she was putting her child in danger. Well it says, the investigation showed that the only true victim is the unborn baby. Reed said in December in the following days of the shooting, it was the mother of the child who initiated and continued the fight which resulted in the death of her own

unborn baby. Let's not lose sight that the unborn baby is a victim here. She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection. Abortion rights groups quickly seized on the incident and obviously like that became part of it. But how crazy, like how crazy. And why are you doing that at the Dollar General? First of all, like first of all, I feel like so much stuff happens at Dollar Generals like every time I read articles, if there's like a location that something happens at, I see like Dollar General probably like nine out of ten times. That's so freaking crazy. But that, I just, the headline was crazy and I was just like,

Kristen sent that to me and I said, what the actual fuck? Like how sad? Like what a sad situation altogether? Like one, you put yourself in a position where you don't know who the dad is or you might, or you're fighting over the dad with somebody else and then you're fighting with somebody and then you, the girl, the woman literally shoots your unborn child. Like how heartbreaking. And what was that woman have any business like pulling a gun at the Dollar General? Like I don't know why I'm so fixated on the fact that it's at the Dollar General. I just, I mean, right, don't get it, like you wouldn't ever see something like this happen somewhere

else. Like I feel like, yeah, just only at the Dollar General. Oh my God. It's so crazy, but at least it's Alabama and it's not Florida this week. I'm surprised because, you know what? Florida is crazy too. I'm, but Alabama I think has the stricter abortion laws. Is that right? Yes. And actually speaking on abortion stuff, there is something that I want to talk about next week, but we don't have time for it today. So you guys stay tuned to that because I'm sure that a lot of people are going to have stuff to say about it. And rightfully so. So I think that's all we have time for.

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