Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 9: EP09: Kail's Fear Factor & New Year's Resolutions
Episode Date: January 4, 2018New year, who dis? Today Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley discuss their plans for the new year--what they want to change (or not) about themselves. Kail declares her love for Fear Factor, but te...lls why she's annoyed with the show. The ladies discuss what happens to their stuff when they die, and they reveal whether they are hoarders or purgers. Plus, they play 2 Truths & a Lie, and we find out why Kail is a terrible liar. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey guys, it's Kayla Lindsay, and we're back with coffee combos, and Lindsay's mad at me because I'm eating pickles.
Because it's so loud, and it just sounds nasty.
My lips are closed.
Do you just hear it?
Just listen to yourself.
I'm basically a boy and a girl's body.
She's eating pickles and drinking a Coke, and she ate pretzels with dipped in what was that?
Ranch.
Ranch.
You didn't call it when we ordered that.
You called it something really weird.
Oh, beard cheese.
I don't even know what that is.
It's cheese made with beer.
Remember how we were talking about all the cheeses the other day?
Yeah.
And like how many cheeses and who came up with the idea of cheese?
Yeah, it's like a weird concept.
Who really did come up with the idea of cheese?
I don't understand.
Like beer cheese.
Like who would think, like, let's make cheese out of beer?
I think they have a lot of the same ingredients.
I don't know for sure.
I feel like I just sound dumb.
You know what's funny I noticed just now?
What?
I drink my Coke out of a candy.
can and you put it in a glass with ice.
Yeah.
Like you're so proper.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Okay.
You mean tell you why I don't drink soft drinks out of a can?
Soft drinks, yeah.
Okay, so apparently at the factories, they leave the cans out.
And like if rats get in there, they can, like, pee on top of the cans and it could be, like, really nasty.
I have a straw.
So it's fine.
I just think it's, like, weird.
It's, like, super fine.
And you want to know why I drink it out of straw?
So your teeth don't get stained.
Yep.
Yeah, I just do whitening for that.
So I have a bone to pick with Fear Factor right now.
Go ahead.
You want to hear it?
So obviously I'm like religious with watching Fear Factor.
I'm obsessed with it because I'm like equally grossed out by it.
So I tweet about it all the time and the account for Fear Factor at MTV tweeted me back
and we're like whenever you're ready to be on Fear Factor like we have a spot for you.
We're going to save it.
So like, okay, lit like I'm going to tell my agent to make that happen.
So when she reached out to them, they were like, oh no, like we.
can't have her on because she's on another MTV show, so we're not going to do that.
But I was like, you guys should probably connect and, like, talk about it before you then tweet me
and say that you're going to save a spot. So, like, I'm kind of pissed off about it.
Yeah, because it's almost like they wanted people to think that, like, maybe you were going to go on it
or we're interested in having you on it. And then it's, like, out there in the universe. And then
it's, like, not an option. Do you hear that? Yeah. What is that?
I'm chewing up a big girl.
It just sounds so weird.
It's not a blast.
A what?
Oh, I like Claussen.
Do you know what that is?
Get out of the room.
Do you like Claussen?
Blasic.
But what's different between Clossin and Velasic?
First of all, I don't even know what that is.
A Clossin pickle?
Velasic.
No, if you're really a pickle connoisseur, you would know what Closson is.
I only eat.
I'll eat any kind of pickles, to be honest.
So then what's the difference between Closson and plastic?
Velastic.
Velastic.
Like classic, but Velastic.
Velastic.
Yeah, they're like, you can tell a Velastic pickle from any other pickle.
Like, if you see that they're like lined up.
You can tell a blossom pickle from any other.
I don't think so.
You don't even know what it is.
Do you eat Mount Olive pickles?
No, because I don't know like every species of pickle that ever existed.
Species?
They come from cucumbers.
Yeah, but you're talking about like types.
I didn't even know that existed.
Yeah.
Like a pickle as a pickle.
Then how do you know about Claussen?
Because I had it before.
It's like in my parents' fridge.
It says Claussen on the outside.
Kale just burped and I smelled it.
No, you didn't.
I smelled it way over here.
No, you did.
Yes, I did.
Now you're lying.
If you guys could smell, you would smell that Kills burp.
Probably smelled like beer cheese.
and pickles.
Disgusting.
Well, at least it was good.
Can we please talk about today
how we almost got evicted from our photo shoot?
Evicted?
Or kicked out.
What's the word?
Escorted out.
So we went to go do this photo shoot for your heart apparel,
which Lindsay and I are doing a collection with.
And so we went to this outdoor mall place that has like a super cute,
essentially like a backdrop.
Like it has cool stuff to take pictures by.
and this like run a cop came and was like you can't film here we've asked you leave so many times
mind you they've never asked us to leave before ever and we were there for under an hour
well and I feel like he reminded me of like Paul Blart he just wasn't on a segue his pants were
really big and yeah I just don't understand and we were literally done whenever he came up there
and he was like you have been told four times to not be doing this here we were literally just
taking pictures. We were literally just taking pictures and we had not been told that ever by any person. So I
have no idea what he was talking about. But it was kind of scary. Like I was a little scared at first.
First of all, it wasn't even a real cop. But he said he was going to call APD.
No. That was never going to happen. Do you even know what AP? It sounds like Atlanta.
Police department. Well, that's what it is. And it's scary. They were never coming to the mall for
taking pictures. Like they would laugh at him. Well, he said he was calling. So I just felt
like it was something interesting.
Well, Paul Blart probably just wanted to feel important.
Yeah, I felt like he wanted to feel important.
And that was just it.
But back on the Fear Factor topic?
I'm really upset about that.
I feel like I would make a really good contestant on Fear Factor.
No, because I would beat you on Fear Factor.
No, you wouldn't.
Yeah, I would.
You'd be in a cage with rats.
Probably not.
If it meant like winning, yes.
No, see, the only thing that I could never do for the Fear Factor thing is eating anything.
Anything that was like, did you see the one that was like, it was essentially like beer pong, but the cups instead of having beer in them?
Yes.
I could not.
That's something that I can't do.
I can't do eating things because I have a.
So when I was a kid, I used, like when Fear Factor was like really like.
With Joe Rogan.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
It was like really like the real fear factor.
So I was a kid.
I used to like practice being on Fear Factor at home.
But like I was never going to be on Fear Factor.
but it would be like I would do stupid stuff.
Like what?
Eat a piece of raw meat or like, eat, poke a hole in an egg and like suck it out of the egg.
Did you do that?
Yes.
You can get salmonella.
Well, you could.
I think you can die from that.
But it didn't die.
So it's okay.
Your parents are supposed to got those organic ones.
But I did do that.
And so I was obsessed with being on.
Fear factor.
And I really think I would beat you if we went on Fear Factor.
If you had to eat something, you would eat.
Yeah.
You beat me? Okay. Well, I would definitely beat you in the rat challenge.
And I would be, I don't know. We're partners, though. We're supposed to be partners.
We would, it's not about unless we were like against each other. Would fear factor let us come on there as partners? I think they should do a reality star edition. For sure. Reality star edition and money to charity instead of the baby. But would we have to have like a male partner or could we, I feel like girl power. Like we should be like female partners. Yeah. We should, yeah. But we should beat the guy contestants for sure.
But you would have to be like super fast and super athletic.
Like if you lose, I would yell at you.
I would train for it.
I would train for it for sure.
I have a half marathon coming up in February and I haven't started training for it at all.
So like if we got on Fear Factor right after that, I'd be like in fit shape.
Fit shape?
I'd be in shape.
I feel like we could really win Fear Factor.
Yeah.
Because I would eat all of stuff.
But wait, do you have, you both have to eat the stuff, right?
or like go in the cages where stuff is.
But like some of them are like one of them would be in like the rat cage
and the other one would be getting like the keys.
See,
I could be around the rats if you would go get the keys or whatever you have to do.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I don't even know if there was one with rats.
The only thing that like might freak me out would be snakes.
I think I could do it.
Like I could do rats over snakes.
I don't think I could do spiders.
Like spiders would be a no go for me.
Like I think I could handle that.
I don't know about snakes.
Snakes are gross.
But do you sign a release?
least like if you die then like you just die and it doesn't matter.
I think they're not real, not liable at all.
So all of this stuff like actually like I would write a will before you go.
We should write we should write a will before we go.
Actually, speaking of that, that's something that as a young mom, like I feel like I haven't
even, I've thought about it lots of times, but it's just not, I don't think like morbidly
like that.
What do you mean?
Like I feel like I should do it.
but I just don't really like to think about that.
Like, I don't like to think about dying or...
Well, I would hope not.
Anything like that.
Well, you should write a will.
Yeah, I should.
Everything Jackson's.
Yeah.
That's all I would say.
My specifics ground.
I think I have so much debt right now that I don't...
Your kids would be left like negative.
Yeah.
That would be bad.
We'll figure it out before.
Yeah.
I don't think your kids can in like,
inherit your debt. I think it just like goes away. Yeah, they do. How is that fair? I don't know,
but I know it's a thing. How? How do you know that? It's just a thing. Kail, that is not a thing.
Yes, it is. You can't just be like, say, okay, here's, let me play this out for you. The mortgage that's
left on my house and my car payment. If I were to, something were to happen to me, my kids inherit that
debt. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Because they're name.
name's not on it. But I was their mom. They inherit that debt. And they either have to sell it and pay this stuff off. Yeah, they would have to sell it or pay it off. But they wouldn't do it. So it becomes their debt. So like if they say, if my car is worth $50,000 and they only sell it for 40,000, that $10,000 have to be made up for, I think. And then it's either their debt or their loss essentially, right? I wouldn't be in debt. I would just tell if that was the case. For example, okay, I just had to, when I got divorced, had a refinance my house.
my house got refinanced for like lower than what we bought it for so like that money if they were to
sell it and get less than that then everybody loses that money of the difference does that make sense
am i explaining that right yeah i mean i know what you're saying so like that sucks yeah i mean
if that happened to me if somebody literally tried to give me their debt when they died i would act like
i didn't know them doesn't work that way yes it does i would literally act like
I didn't know them. I would be like, who is that person?
But I think even if you didn't know them, if you inherited it, you inherited it. Yeah.
It's not a thing. I'm pretty sure. We should look this up. Someone can tweet us.
If you're a lawyer and you're listening to us, you're probably not listening to us.
Then you should tell us if it's a real thing. And I think it's not a real thing.
It is. It's not. Kail, it's not a thing. Second to debt, I don't want debt. I don't want bad skin either.
So that's something that I've been struggling with.
Leave it in 2017.
Exactly.
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Thank God.
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My New Year's resolution is 2018, no debt and clear skin. So what other resolutions do we have?
I don't really want to talk about them.
Why?
I have good ones this year.
Like, I don't really do the whole New Year's resolution thing, but I'm, like, really trying to be a good person.
And I talked to an astrologist, and she said that 2018 is a year of success for me.
And so I have made these New Year's resolutions to one, there's one, to stop using the F word, because I say fuck all the time.
Like you just did.
I say it.
Explicit.
Yeah.
But you know what?
My kids don't repeat it.
So that's what's most important.
Number two is to be more organized, which I told you that.
But you haven't even made an effort to go that direction.
But I hired a professional organizer to do the closets in my office.
That's true.
That's a step in the right direction.
That is true.
So she starts next week.
And I'll keep you guys updated on that.
That's going to take her a year.
You know what?
We already calculated down to nine sessions.
Nine sessions to get organized.
Well, okay.
There's three closets that we need to do.
Okay.
So that's three.
My office, my kitchen, that's already five.
Oh, you mean like for each individual, like thing?
Yes, we're like separate.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that's already five.
And then we did the four other ones for anything else.
Okay.
So like we'll figure that out.
Just like anything else.
I feel like you're going to.
I think I'm going to live my life a lot less anxiety ridden.
Is that a word?
Excite.
I mean, I don't know if it's a word, but it sounds right.
It's like a thing, right?
Yeah.
So I.
Why do we say this all the time?
It's a thing.
Like, is it a thing?
Like, anything that Kill does, she thinks is a thing, but it's not a thing.
It's a thing.
It's a thing.
Right.
It is.
That's like, people do that.
For somebody like you, I basically am a professional organizer, but for somebody like you...
We would fight if you were my organizer.
Why?
Well, one, I would feel so judged.
That would be my job.
But you would judge me.
No.
Yes, you would.
I would just throw all of the stuff away.
You can't do that.
if that was my job to be organized and it was like causing chaos then I would just throw it away
and not tell you my life is chaos like that's part of my life so we have to keep it to some
degree but people can't organize chaos people can't it can't just be like organized chaos it is though
but that's what we're going to do no that's just what your life currently is like you can't just
okay you can't just like take your closet and stuff that you don't need organize stuff that you don't
need and leave it in there.
Right.
That's why the organizer is going to come in and take it out.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
If I was your professional organizer.
You would take it out whether I wanted to keep it or not.
Yeah.
Because you think that I didn't need it.
Yeah.
And who cares?
Because you probably didn't need it.
Well, there is one closet that I, that is like, it's a guest room and it has the
biggest closet in the upstairs.
And I just shove everything in there.
So it's like out of sight, out of mind.
But then I get anxiety about knowing.
How do you sleep at night?
I get anxiety about knowing it's in there and it's like so disorganized.
So, like, I keep the downstairs really clean.
And then upstairs, like, my room is the messiest room in the house.
Like, even over the boys' room.
Okay, but I would not be able to sleep at night.
I've lost sleep that, you know what, I lost sleep over this week?
That you didn't bleach the kitchen countertops.
No, I always clean my countertops off every day.
I lost sleep this week over the fact that I didn't get to vacuum yet.
A cookie off the floor.
I didn't get a vacuum yet.
That's disgusting.
Like, why would you do that?
Like you just don't care
No. If you drop something on the floor, I'll eat it.
It's fine.
I'm going to drop something on the floor on this like nasty floor.
And I would probably eat it before being honest.
Like I'm, I told you, I'm the epitome of trash.
We're basically going to play Fear Factor on podcasts.
Like, I'm going to start dropping stuff on the floor and Kail's going to start eating it.
I'm going to start putting like random stuff.
But I don't get a paycheck for that.
And I would still do it.
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going to talk about? Okay, would you like my advice on how to get organized? Let's hear it.
The first step of getting organized is to go through like all of your drawers and stuff and throw
everything away that you haven't used in like the last six months. Okay, timeout. Already I have a problem.
You have a problem with everything. Where do you start? Like, you have to start somewhere. No, I'm saying.
Like for me, like I said, the messiest room in my house is my bedroom.
So start in your bedroom.
Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Because then you're going to feel good.
Like, once you get all of that stuff out, you're going to be like, see, you're burping
because of the pickles.
No, it's from the soda.
Excuse me.
I just, I don't get it.
I think I have really big tonsils.
Why?
Don't you hear that?
Kail, that just means that, like, you have a gulping problem.
No, it's because it might, look.
Kale.
They're big.
I don't have shrimp.
Does that, is that like what it's called whenever you play tonsile hockey?
You have to have big tonsils to do that.
Do what?
Like tonsil.
You know what people say like?
What are you talking about?
No, when people used to talk about playing tonsill hockey.
Like, what is that?
I don't know.
What are you talking about?
Haven't you heard of it?
No.
Like, I think it's like whenever you french kiss.
And I was on steroids to like make the.
my tonsils smaller and I drank a soda because the pain was gone from the steroids and it came
on my nose because they were so big.
Kill.
Yeah.
You didn't need to get your tonsils out.
I know, but I didn't have insurance my whole life.
I just got it.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
But now I have three kids so I don't have time to like get my tons to go to your tonsils out.
Okay.
But you know, like when you French kiss, I think that's called playing tonsile hockey.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Tonsul hockey.
It's a thing.
Fine.
Nobody knows what that is.
I'm going to Google it because it's a thing.
You're literally insane.
I swear.
It's a thing.
And then I'm going to finish telling you about everything that you need to be doing to get organized.
But what is tonsil hockey?
Hold on.
I'm going to tell you.
Oh, listen.
I'm a little congested right now.
That's not what it is.
Tauntle hockey.
Should we get the Urban Dictionary version?
That's like so.
Oh my gosh.
Look at this.
This is people actually doing it.
Ponzo hockey.
Is what?
definition of tonsill hockey is passionate kissing deep or french kissing why don't do that making out
frequently in to play tonsill hockey why don't you play tonsill hockey that's disgusting like would you
french just like making out like french kiss like is that making out like kill it's like if you
if you put your tongue in someone else's mouth that is fringing not really no like i don't like
Like, I just don't like it.
I'm not a fan.
It's not a thing.
It's a thing, but I don't do it.
I just don't want someone's tongue in my mouth.
No, I don't either.
You don't know when they brush their teeth last.
That's a hard pass.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But, like, have you done it before?
Frenched?
Yeah.
Of course.
Why'd you make that face?
Because, of course, everybody's Frenched.
You haven't French kids?
It's called making out.
Okay, but it's fronching.
It's not Frenching.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like whenever you're with your girlfriends and like your, you know, like get your first boyfriend and it's like, okay, well, did you French?
Like, it's a thing.
I'm looking embarrassed right now.
It's a thing.
So what would you say?
I don't like it.
It's weird.
Say making out.
Like, have you made out?
But making out could mean like a whole variety of things.
No, it can.
Yes, it can.
It's literally what you're describing.
No.
Okay.
French, like if I kiss somebody, I kissed them just like with my lips.
Right.
But if you're making.
out, you're using your tongue. So it's French.
True. You're fringing. Yeah. But
you're playing tonsile hockey.
Nobody's playing tonsile hockey.
Yeah. Not at all. They would have a lot
of hockey to play because your tonsils are so
big. They're huge. I don't even think I have to. Are they adenoids or is that
different? I don't even know it. Ed. Adenoids? I don't even know
they're the same thing. They're the same.
So anyway, back to what I was saying about you
getting organized. Right. You should start in your room
and then you're going to feel good about yourself.
Listen, this is what I want. This is my goal.
Go ahead.
When I become more organized and I get the professional organizer comes to help me, I want to empty my closet completely and start over.
Just like get everything out.
Yeah.
But also like when I got divorced, I cut all my hair off.
So I feel like that's like when I clean out my closet.
Like I'm also like cleaning out my closet.
I get it.
I get it.
But like do you not feel attached to your things kind of?
No.
I'm organized, but I'm slightly a hoarder of things.
Like, I would never, it would be really hard for me to throw away like a Lulu Lemon jacket or something.
Even if I wasn't going to wear it, it's still Lulu Lemon.
So, like, I'm probably not going to throw it away.
I literally don't care.
You just don't care.
No.
But I'm kind of, like, selfish with my things.
I don't throw it out.
I actually donate a lot of stuff.
Like, all my stuff is donated.
Or a lot of my friends will just take it because I won't wear it.
Like, I just don't attach to things.
I mean, I'm not really attached to them either, but it just, like, kind of feels tragic if I'm not going to see that jacket again.
But if you're not going to wear it, then why is it tragic? Because you spent the money on it?
No, not necessarily because I spent the money on it because it may be reminded me of a good time or something like that I wore that.
Lux's dad still has clothes in the drawers. I need to, it needs to go.
Oh my gosh. And you like...
I'm not attached to it. It just needs to go. I'm just tired of looking at it.
But, like, why is it still there? I don't know. I just haven't been organized.
Clearly.
Yeah.
Clearly. So where is the organizer going to start? In my closet. And then also, like I told you, we've been having plumbing problems. So we're going to go through the bathroom. And, like, when I get the new vanity, I'm going to put everything back nice and neatly. The extra toilet paper will go under the sink. Where is it now? In the hallway. On the floor. But, like, naturally, why would that be in the hallway?
My bathroom's getting redone. Oh, but, like, regularly it wouldn't be in the hallway.
I mean, it might, if we're being honest.
Like, it's still, like, in the plastic, you know?
Yeah.
So.
But it's just, like, in the hall.
Well, it's like, this is my thing.
When I go, when I come in the house and I have, like, a bunch of shit that needs to go upstairs, I'll put it on the steps to go up the steps.
So, like, every time I go up the steps, like, I take a load of stuff.
Well, I try.
But most of the time, it just stays on the steps.
So sometimes that's a toilet paper.
I'll actually bring it to the top of the steps and put it at the top of the steps.
And then I never put it in its home.
Until it's all used up.
and then you just throw the remaining wrapping paper away.
It's weird, yeah.
But like my downstairs is really clean, so.
I just have to be organized.
I don't know how you live, not organized.
Like this morning before I saw you, we, I was up at 6 o'clock this morning,
and I was making beds and organizing Jackson's books in his room after I showered
because it was just he had played in his room and his books were kind of like all over the place.
And it just.
Does he also organize like you do?
Everything that he has is like organized.
Like his Legos have a bin.
His superheroes have a bin.
His dress up stuff has its own place.
And so if I tell him to put stuff away, he doesn't just like throw it one place.
He puts it where it belongs.
Like everything in your life has a place.
Yeah, that's exactly what the organizer said.
She literally said that verbatim.
She said home.
But yeah.
Everything should have a home.
Yeah.
And that's true.
You can apply that to.
every, like, aspect of your life?
No, I mean, I don't know about that.
Everything has a proper place in your life.
Okay, I want to play this game with you called Two Truth and a Lie.
Okay.
Because it's super fun and I'm good at it.
You're good at the game?
I think so.
So you're a good liar?
I don't think so.
So that means you're not good.
Well, we'll see.
So two truths and a lie is you tell two truths and one lie,
and I have to guess which one is the lie.
Okay.
And then same goes for me.
I'm going to tell two truths and a lie, and you have to guess which one's the lie.
Okay.
So is there a real winner in this game?
Yeah, if you're bad at lying, you suck.
But what if we're both bad at lying?
Then we're both bad at lying.
We both suck.
Okay, fine.
Okay.
I'm going first.
Okay.
But you have to be able to see your full face.
It has to be fair.
Okay.
Don't stare at me.
Well, that's part of the game, right?
All right.
One.
I've been swimming with sharks uncaged.
True.
Oh, you're, okay.
Oh, okay.
Two, I skydive for fun.
True.
What the fuck?
Three, I've bungee jumped off a bridge.
False.
Fuck you.
Okay.
Wow.
Are you ready?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, I need to get myself together for one second.
What are you doing?
I'm trying to get my thoughts.
Put that poker face on.
Okay.
I never went on a real date before college.
I hate water
I graduated college
with a 3.5 cumulative GPA
What the fuck, Lindsay?
Okay.
You do hate water.
So now you already know.
Wait, what?
You do hate water
and you did not go on a date
before college.
No, but you did have a 3.5 GPA,
but was it cumulative or not cumulative?
I don't know. You tell me.
Is it true? Just go through the first.
I grab up.
I graduated college with a 3.5 cumulative GPA.
That wasn't the first one you said.
Okay, fine.
I hate water.
You hate water.
So that's true.
That's the truth.
What was the second one?
The date?
I graduated college with a 3.5 cumulative GPA.
That's a false.
That's a lie.
You're right, because I graduated with 3.085.
Oh, okay.
That was close.
I'm right.
So you're right.
Well, we suck at this game, so I was wrong.
You thought you were so good, too.
Like, you thought you were going to stomp me.
Because they were all so adventurous and, like, out of control that I was like,
she's not going to know which one it is.
Because I'm just so fun.
And no person's going to just, like, jump off a bridge voluntarily.
Yeah.
I said bungee jumped.
I didn't say jumped off.
Whatever.
No person's going to just, like, do that.
Yeah, I think people do that.
Okay.
People skydive.
That's a thing.
Yeah, because I know you've done it.
People also swim with sharks.
That's a thing.
No.
Yes, they do.
No. No one just volunteers and does that unless you're like mentally ill.
Like I feel like you would have to have like a little bit of crazy in you to do that.
Well, I guess I'm a little bit of crazy.
Because I would not be able to do it. Do you know I would have a panic attack?
I think you should watch someone do it.
Like watch you do it?
Yeah, sure. But is it even scary?
Yeah. Well, I mean, no, but yes, it's like thrilling. It's like the adrenaline is crazy.
Like you can't take your eyes off the sharks or they will come check you.
What do you mean?
Like they'll come up to you because they like know they're so smart there's like a hierarchy of sharks like the more dominant ones are at the top and like you stay above them.
Okay.
And then they just tell you to like keep your eyes on the shark.
If you turn your back or like turn your eyes away, they're going to come up to you.
What if you get confused about the hierarchy when you're in there that would happen to me?
Well I turned I got so when I did it in Hawaii they um there was like 27 that we counted and I got overwhelmed like I was overwhelmed because I think I.
I was just like, okay, now there's so many and they're getting closer and closer because they get curious.
And like the radio frequency, I want to say that's the word, for like the cameras.
Is it radio frequency?
Something with the cameras, they're like, like draws them to it.
Like they're curious about it.
It's like I got overwhelmed.
I want to get out.
And I turned my back to them and one came up to my fin.
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
But it was still really cool.
Yeah, I would never do something like that.
Well, you should try.
You should just go look.
You should watch.
Because it's really interesting.
No, but I would literally get confused.
I would be so overwhelmed that if I ever actually did it, I would get in there and get killed because I would get confused at what the people would say.
What do you mean?
Like, I would get confused probably through the videos and stuff that they probably show you and tell you, like, how to do it.
You don't watch videos.
Well, what do you do?
Like, how do they train you to do it?
You get on the boat and then you go out like miles and miles and they take you to like whatever place that they normally go.
And then they tell you like what to do, like keep your eyes on a shark, stay above.
them, blah, blah, blah. I would forget all of that. Like, I would be so nervous. I would forget all of that.
Oh. And when I got in, I would be like, failing or is that what the word? Flailing. Flailing?
Flailing. Flailing like a fish. Like I would. Like they would definitely. They would come and get me.
Yeah. So I should never do it. I really should never do it. Would you skydive?
Yes. You would. We should. We should do that for a podcast. Like we should go skydiving and then talk about it.
But I'm kind of like afraid a little bit.
Yeah.
Because what if the court snaps?
Well, then there's a backup one.
And if that one snaps, there's also a backup one.
So there's like two backups.
Chances of like three cord snapping, not very likely.
No.
And usually when you go tandem, they can cut you free if they need to.
What's that?
Tandum is when you go with someone on your back.
So like an instructor.
They cut the cord?
Well, because they would, if they have to like detangle it, like they know how to detangle it.
But then the other one would come out.
Oh, okay.
So you wouldn't just be free falling.
Okay.
So.
But have you done it without somebody on your back before?
I just got certified to do it without someone.
Wait, that you have to get a certification?
Yeah.
Why?
You do like, so you jump with, it's called tandem, jumping when you go with someone on your back.
Then you go to AFF ground school, which they teach you all the ways, they teach you how to jump without someone.
And then you have to essentially jump without someone like seven times.
Or with someone seven times.
And then you can do it by yourself.
Could you imagine me in a situation like that?
No.
Actually, yeah, because you're such a planner.
Yeah.
But no, because then the stress, if something did go wrong.
I would be freaking out.
But I do like doing things that cause like, yeah, under pressure.
Like you perform all under, yeah.
Like, if I know that I haven't studied for a test and I'm going to cram the night before.
I'm going to cram the night before so hard that like no shot I'm failing.
Okay.
So I feel like it would be something I could do.
Yeah.
But I'm going to be freaking out.
Like we should skydive and then we should talk about it.
Talk about it.
Yeah.
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