Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 95: Rats in the Walls, Show & Tell, & Naked Ears

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

Kail heard rats in the walls at her hotel & Lindsie found a roach on her bed. They talk about why they wouldn't let their kids have reptiles or rodents & why Lindsie was obsessed w/ lizards. T...hey debate the swallowing spiders myth. They discuss their experience at the crystal store & why Lindsie now believes in their powers. Lindsie reveals her plans for her 30th birthday & why it will be like The Hangover. They discuss a cruise ship tragedy, twins that died in a hot car, & the El Paso shooting

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, guys, welcome to Coffee Combos. Hey, Lins. Good morning. No. We're not doing that. Why aren't you that person? I'm not that person because there was rats and roaches in my hotel room last night. First of all, you need to back up because you need to tell everybody the backstory about
Starting point is 00:00:22 how you found the rats. Why didn't find them? I just heard them. I found them. Last night, so the first night when I got to this hotel, I slept with the TV on, which I go back and forth with. We're not going to say the name of the hotel because we're not trying to bash people. Right, and I'm really not trying to, whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I am going back and forth with the TV on and off. So the first night I got here, slept with the TV on, didn't hear anything, but the TV obviously. The second night, which was last night, I slept with the TV off and at 1.15, 1.30, I woke up and I heard this like the scratching and the squealing and like the, it almost sounded like they were chewing. I don't know, chewing. They were having sex.
Starting point is 00:01:09 They were probably having sex in the walls. So at first, when I first heard it, I thought maybe I'm crazy and I'll go back to sleep, but I don't know, I wasn't really sure. So again, I wake up later on and I hear the same thing. So at this point, I literally like smacking, I'm smacking the headboard of the walls because I couldn't sleep because of the sound. It was terrible. I only do that when I hear people having sex at hotels.
Starting point is 00:01:31 That's actually my biggest fear. It was, but I was just like, this is the first time that's ever happened to me and I sleep in a hotel like once or twice a month. So I'm just like, why am I hearing rodents and maybe it wasn't rats, but there was definitely rodents in the walls. And you're laughing and I was like mortified. And I said, if something comes out of the vents, because rats and mice can squeeze through literally the tiniest crevices.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I've never seen a rat or a mouse at my house, but I think if, oh no, I lied. Go ahead, but I'll tell you the story in a second. They can squeeze through really, really small places. So I'm like, if this thing comes through the vent and crawls across me, I'm going to lose my shit. What would you have done if it like really did? Like what would have been your reaction if you saw it on the ground? And I would probably freak out.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So the people next to me would probably would have heard me screaming because that's not okay. And then the hotel really would have heard me bitch them out. Yeah. See, I think I would have passed out so they wouldn't have had to worry about me bitching. Like if I saw a rat or I'm terrified of rats, like literally terrified, rats and snakes freak me out so bad. Well, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Snakes. Oh my God. Just like, they're kind of like cats to me, like cats really freak me out too. And it's weird because like, I'm not, if I saw like a rat or a mouse in a cage or something, it's not going to freak me out as much, but just not like the fear of the unknown, like it was dark in there. I don't know if they were like crawling around. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:58 No, it also freaks me out at Petsmart. Okay. Well, I mean, if I don't know they're there and they're crawling over my body while I'm asleep, that's disturbing. And the fact that you found a roach in my bed and you didn't tell me until the next day, you need to tell the people. Okay. Well, in my defense.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Okay. So first of all, I had to do some branded content for my Instagram last night. So Lindsay's helping me get everything together and I'm taking the products out of the packaging. And so I walk away to go take the content on my phone. And Lindsay's like getting it all organized, I guess, or she's like looking for like the name brand, like the, I was the professional organizer and I was helping Kale stay organized. It was like spread out on my bed.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Mind you, there's two beds in the room that I have. One bed I didn't sleep in and there was like probably like my clothes on it or something. And then the bed that I slept on was the bed that we put, we like spread the clothes out so that we could figure out what we were going to do. And then when Kale was in the bathroom, I saw a roach crawling on her bed. And I almost screamed when I saw it because I didn't, I just saw like this little like, how big was it? It was like, obviously like for the listeners, what would you say, size wise?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Like a... Oh, like bigger than a quarter. Like it was like probably like a half dollar. What's that? Half dollar called? Who's on it? Who's on the half dollar? Um, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:04:20 Susan B. Anthony. No, it's a guy with the ponytail, Thomas Jefferson. It's not on the half dollar. Let me see. It's a lady. Seriously? Then I'm thinking of a different coin. I'm almost certain that it's a lady.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Half dollar. It's like Susan B. Anthony. No, it's a man and it's Kennedy. Hmm. Should have known that. But that's not what... Oh, wow. That's not on the half dollar.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yes, he is. They changed it then. I'm almost certain it was a lady. What's Susan B. Anthony? Oh, and Thomas Jefferson is on a coin. I was right. I knew it. What, the penny?
Starting point is 00:05:01 No. I just said Kennedy. Okay. So it was like a half dollar, um, size. But the weird thing was, was the leggings were all like black and dark colored. So they were like navy black. So I saw like it hanging out underneath like one of the pants. That's what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I thought when you told me that maybe it came from the package with all the clothes in it, because maybe it came from a warehouse. But wait a second. But it was alive. That was the problem. That's the problem. So I saw it like hanging halfway out, like partly underneath the thing I think it was trying to hide.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And when I lifted up the thing, I saw it and I almost screamed, but I was like, I can't scream because she won't go to sleep tonight if I tell her that it's here. So I like quickly like flinged it off the bed. I like flicked it and I like went off the bed. So it's probably still in your room somewhere. I don't know. But I didn't tell you because I didn't want you to not sleep. And then you would be a grouch in the morning whenever I showed up, but I was already hearing
Starting point is 00:06:02 rats in the night. So I didn't know you were going to hear rats at the night. So I was like, I would have slept on a couch in the lobby. Like I really would have slept on the roof of this hotel if I found out that there was rats, literally would have slept on the roof of the hotel. But like, do you tell you about my story? Hold on, because do you think that the Roach could have survived in that fabletics bag? No, kill.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You literally brought that fabletics bag all the way from fucking Delaware. It was probably at your house for like 12 weeks before you even opened it. And then you brought it. No, I opened it here. I didn't even open it at home and bring it with me. I literally waited. That's my whole point. It's probably been at your house for months.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And also you brought it all the way from Delaware to Atlanta. Like that Roach could not have lived that long. So it was in the hotel. It had to have been at the hotel. And it makes sense if you heard rats and there was a Roach the size of a half dollar, then it makes sense that it would have been from here. So do you want to hear my story? I do.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I want to hear it. Okay. So walking outside, having a phone call. I had just gotten home, like driving and I was finishing my phone call before I went into the house. I didn't want to disturb Will and Jackson with my fuckery. So sitting on my front porch and all of a sudden, this is no lie. I'm sitting on my front porch and I see this tiniest, cutest mouse and it was on its hind
Starting point is 00:07:24 legs walking. I'm not making it up. It was on its hind legs. Like that. It might have been, but it wasn't walking like that. And it was like looking around, like fastly like jerking its head around. And then I thought, oh my God, like there's got to be a mom somewhere because it was so tiny.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Oh, it was a baby. It was a baby. Do you mice stay with their offspring? Well, it had to have been born from somewhere. So I know that, but I'm saying probably not. I mean, outside there's rodents everywhere. No. So I saw it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I saw a mouse in like in my driveway once. I didn't tell Will about it because I was afraid he was going to go and get a mousetrap and kill it. Yeah. That's sad. But then also if there's one, there's probably multiple. That's what that was. That was my point.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I was like, there's got to be a bigger one somewhere. Yeah. But I've never seen it again. Yeah. I saw one in my driveway like two years ago and I never saw another one. It was literally like fucking Stuart Little. It was probably cute, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It was like Stuart Little. I just imagined like it brought me back to my childhood. But like a natural like cruelty free repellent of mice would be. I don't know. But it's definitely not a mousetrap. Well, right. Definitely not. Definitely not.
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Starting point is 00:10:30 I mean, it was huge. Like it was huge. I don't know how big a mouse can be. It looked like it probably ate all of the mice in the house and then it like grew to be like a size of a cat. I know rats are really smart. Are mice as smart as rats? Are rats smart?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. They use them in a lot of like animal testing, don't they? You've never seen like them go through the mazes to get to things and like they're like, people keep them as pets. Yeah. People keep them as pets and they're really smart. That's terrifying. Have you ever seen somebody feed a mouse to a snake?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah. I have. That's terrifying. Yeah. They freeze them, right? But are they frozen alive? With that, I don't know, but I do know that sometimes the snakes like the live ones and sometimes they freeze them.
Starting point is 00:11:19 So it really depends. I know, but I'm saying like when they get frozen, do they put them in the freezer alive and they just dive frostbite? Yikes. I'm asking. I don't know. I'm not an expert. You're not an expert.
Starting point is 00:11:31 No. Okay. So your kids asked you if you- No. I'm not getting them any. No. We're done. So they're not getting like a snake?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Like what if they wanted a hamster? No. They're not getting any of them. And it's funny because we were in Hawaii, Addy loved the lizards, like she kept catching them and then she let them go. I used to love lizards. She loved them. I took it for a show and tell when I was in kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Told everyone how she wants to put snake and Leah was like, absolutely not, I'm not getting you a snake. No. Because it would probably be like wrapped around her neck whenever she woke up in the morning. Or she probably would just never let it like put it down. Right. Yeah. I'm never, no, I'm not, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Do you remember speaking of show and tell? Do you remember show and tell? Yeah. They call it share and tell at my kids' school. I don't even think they do it anymore. Oh, we do. Yeah. They do.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And I always like sometimes I forget. Jackson said the other day going to school, he was like, well, whenever I find out about show and tell, I'm bringing my dog and I'm like, but you can't do that. Like you can't bring your dog to school. I took for my first show and tell ever, I took a green lizard that I found in my grandparents' yard. And then it died two days later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I want to, but I got it a habitat, like everything. Me and my childhood best friend went to a fair and they were selling like these little green lizards and like we bought them habitat, like her mom gave her a lot of money and like I was sent with no money and she dropped us off and we bought them and we bought them like the habitats and everything. And then we told our parents that we won them because then they couldn't, you know what I mean? Like we won that wax.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So it was like as we were talking about in the episode before a couple of episodes ago, it's like, it's special to me. This lizard, I've won it and it's very special to me. I wonder if we did that to our parents, like this is very special. I'm not letting my kids keep any rodents, like you are like reptiles, like I don't care if they won them or not. You can give it back to the fair, take it back, someone else can win it. Every time we go to PetSmart, Jackson starts looking at the hamsters and I'm like, are
Starting point is 00:13:33 guinea pigs and I'm like, please God, do not ask for this because first of all, I'm going to have to tell you now, I'm too, I'm not cut out for that kind of work. You know? I've heard it get loose. Like conversation with my friends, like there are animal people and like certain kids, like I have cousins that are obsessed with their dog. Like they got the dog and now like the dog opens the Christmas gifts before they do. Like they fight over who's walking the dog, like stuff like they love their dog.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Nobody does that. I have dogs. I have my two dogs that I've always had since they were born. And then I have the Frenchies that Chris and his mom have that I got them. Yeah. Can you clarify that before? Oh, everyone asks me where the dogs are. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Well, Penny, we still have her. Chris's mom has her. Their dog had passed away a few years back and so, and then his mom just really bonded with Penny. So she has Penny. I loved that name. When you got that dog, I named her Penny. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That was so cute. And then I had gotten Gotti for Chris years ago and they're half brother and sister. So we still have them all. I have Gizmo and Bear, obviously. And then I think people didn't realize that you bought the dog for Chris and it was always Chris's dog. Just because it was always Chris's dog. Just because it was in like Snapchat or but sometimes like if he has stuff going on or
Starting point is 00:14:54 working or whatever, like if we're exchanging the baby, sometimes I'll take the dog too. Because if he's not home, then what's the point? You know what I'm saying? That's common sense. And also like for the Penny thing, they're like, oh, how could you just give your dog away? Well, if someone in the family is bonding with this dog more than I am and I'm traveling all the time and having to put the dog in the kennel all the time, why wouldn't she just
Starting point is 00:15:15 keep Penny? Right. Yeah. Like I know she's really well, like that dog is so well taken care of that I it's just like, and to be perfectly honest, what I was getting to that actually like proves my point too is like, my kids don't like they like, they like our dogs, but they don't they're not actively like helping to take care of them. Jackson's obsessed with Della.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Right. Like I have to spank him sometimes like sometimes the people are obsessed with their dogs like my kids don't and I don't know if it's because they've had them since before we've had them since before they were born. I think that might have something to do with it because see, we didn't get Della until Jackson was almost two years old. So he like formed a bond with her like I had bear. I had gotten bear when Isaac was almost two or just after two.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Does Isaac care more about bear than your other kids? He loves bear, of course, um, but I just don't think that my kids are like dog. They're not dog lovers. So an animal, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like they're never going to hurt them or anything, but they love, they just don't really love to like, you would be amazed though, if the dogs weren't there, how much they would ask for them?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Well, but then I'm not proving my own point because Lux loves the dogs, Lux loves the animals. He loves the dogs. He loves the cat that they have at Chris's house. He loves the animals, so I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Jackson asks for a cat all the time. And I'm like, I don't like cats.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So apparently Will's dad took Jackson to PetSmart and they went into the section, you know, where had like, adoptions. Yes. Well, first of all, that place smells like hell. I know. Like that's why they need home so bad horrible. And if you're listening, if you want a cat, you should definitely adopt them because there are so many cats that need to be adopted.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like PetSmart has them, the pound has them like overabundance of cats. Oh, I know. When I did community service in high school, I worked at this like shelter for animals and they're compared to the dogs at the time that I was working there. There was maybe eight, maybe 10 dogs and there was probably over a hundred cats. Oh yeah. There's so many. So think about your new home.
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Starting point is 00:19:11 They went to Target and bought everything Spider-Man that they had. And then I guess Jackson asked to go to PetSmart because he probably wanted to look at the cats because he's convinced that like, eventually I'm not going to be allergic to cats. It's like, yeah, I'm not really, I'm not really cat person anyway, but like the fact that I'm allergic to it and they could probably cause me to die, like, I can't. So Jackson goes into the little adoption room and I guess there's some guy that's like overseeing it. So my father-in-law tells me that Jackson has this full blown like adult conversation
Starting point is 00:19:43 with this man about how he would love to be able to home one of these cats. However, my mom would not let that happen because she's allergic and will cause her to have bad rashes. Bad rashes. Aw. But he loves cats and I don't know where he gets it from. Like, I don't understand. And then really just take care of themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:01 The only thing that bothers me is when they jump up on the counter, I had a cat growing up and my mom, I don't know if she sprayed it with water bottle at first or what to train it, but this cat that I had growing up never jumped up on counters. Like that was the one thing that I know he never did. And he was just like a cool cat. Like he just didn't bother anybody. See, I also don't like people with cat like personalities because I feel like they're unpredictable, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like I feel like cats are so unpredictable. How? Like they like don't need you for anything really. That's like, yeah. I mean, that's amazing. You can literally set up litter boxes, like clean litter boxes for the week and food and drink for the week. Maybe have someone come check on them to make sure that he's good or, you know, whatever
Starting point is 00:20:41 and you can leave. But like maybe that's something wrong with me that I don't want something that doesn't need me. Is that like a mental disorder? Probably. Yes. Yeah. Then I've got that.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Cats are just weird. Like they don't need you. Their spines are freaky. Like when they like go up and it looks like Halloween. Yeah. I'm like, boo, I'm so scared. Yeah, and cats like their tongues like freak me out, but a dog doesn't freak you out at all.
Starting point is 00:21:14 No, not at all. But Jackson loves Della like literally, I'll catch him in the dog bed and I'm like, that's her personal space. Like you have to get out. Like what do you want her to be like sleeping all over your red? He's like, of course. Oh, and I'm like, okay, well, it's not happening. And that wasn't the response I was looking for.
Starting point is 00:21:32 She didn't sleep with you guys. No. I know people would love to let her sleep with us, but I feel like kind of like a baby in the bed. You know, it's like I'm constantly on guard of, oh, I'm going to roll over on her or, oh, she's going to fall off the bed. I mean, Della falls asleep and falls off the back of the couch. So it's like, can I really trust her in the bed?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Like, right? She'll fall off and Della sleeps upside down, like on her back, belly up with her legs straight up in there. I'll take a picture of it. Actually, I have a picture of it on my phone. I'll show you. It's really weird. It's really weird.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But back to the rodent and the reptile thing, is it true that you swallow seven spiders or something like that? I think so. Is it seven? I think it's something like that. Yeah. And chocolate bars, anything that's produced in a factory, like a food, like chips. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It's a peanut butter. Peanut butter, chocolate, they all have some type of insect remnants. No, because I have gone through a jar of peanut butter to see if that was true and I didn't find anything. Like, I didn't find anything. I mean, I'm sure maybe one, that jar didn't have it. And two, I'm sure it would be grinded up or whatever. That's sick.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah. And you just disgusted me. Right. I'm disturbed. So it would be grinded up. It wouldn't be whole. I mean, I would imagine. I mean, I'm sure they've found the stories that we are probably going to get from this.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Stories of things in food, I don't want to see them. So don't show me ever, because I would vomit. Show me though. No, I don't, don't send them to me. I don't want to see them. No. Don't send it to Kale, but send it to me. And also a coffee convo.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So Kale also has to see it. Because then you technically didn't. When you get something like that, like say there's like an insect or like a rodent or something in your food or whatever the case is. Is that a lawsuit? Or is that like the risk that you take by buying something made from a factory? I think it's just a risk you take. Got it.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I think it's just life. It's also like unsanitary if you're allowing it, like if this happens, but like maybe it's just a myth. So does anybody know, do you swallow seven spiders a year or do you not? And I don't sleep with my mouth open. So I don't know how to get in there. They can still crawl in other holes. Remember, did you ever see like your vagina, like it's not going to crawl up your vagina?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Chelsea had tweeted about, and I think she talked to us. Maybe she talked to us about, I don't know, a spider crawled in her ear in the night and she heard it. I feel like I heard this. She was like, she tweeted about it. What? She heard it? And it like crawled all the way in her ear.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like she heard it scraping? Yes. Oh no. In the middle of the night. I would have cut my ear off. And so she slept for weeks, she slept with a headband over her ears. I definitely would have done that too. But like she heard it, oh my, like the, just like feeling it is one thing, but to like
Starting point is 00:24:19 hear it. Yeah. Oh no. No, no. That's kind of like the rats. It was like the rats last night. And I was literally like, oh my God. And if I, when I was hitting the wall to like make them go away, I was like, now they're
Starting point is 00:24:31 going to run through the vents. Like they're going to come in the room now. Yeah. They probably like just shit everywhere when you did that. Probably scared them to death. Oh my God. Speaking of years though, I know that you've told me about this before that you hate like having nude ears.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. I forgot my earrings. I feel like I can't go about my day with my ears. It just like, I don't feel like my outfit for later is going to be complete. It was so funny because I remember Nick and Jamal from our podcast episode. So they, she, I think Nick tweeted about it and Jamal has his ears pierced and they tweeted about it literally the other day. And I was like, I,
Starting point is 00:25:06 What did they say? They were tweeting about the same thing. Like Nick was like, I hate when I forget my earrings. Like I feel bare. I feel naked. And I was like, the fact that I forgot my earrings after just reading that too was like, and I left the earrings in my car because I was like, oh, I'll just grab them on the way out. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Forgot them. I lose earrings all the time. But I can only wear real jewelry and it sucks because sometimes it's like, I can't just run out and get like a quick pair of earrings from Target because my ears will swell up and pus right away. Oh my God. So I have a story about that actually. So Will was thinking he was being like really nice and he bought me some earrings that I
Starting point is 00:25:40 wanted. I was like into like pearl stuff for a while. So that's super grandma of me, but I wanted like a pearl ring and I wanted like pearl, like tiny like pearl earrings. Like I just went through a phase. I just went through a phase of thinking that I was like 95. So Will goes to Costco because they have like a pretty good jewelry section at Costco and he buys me these earrings.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Well, I have always had an issue with like real, is it like metals or whatever in my ears? Like nickel or like. Yeah. I've always had a problem with it. So I can't wear like stuff from like freaking Klairs in my ears, but if I put like a gold earring in. Like real gold?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah. Like real gold. It will literally like what you're talking about that happens with like big stuff. Yeah. That happens to me with real stuff. What? Like it will be a wrap, but like not only just like my ears literally feel like they are bleeding.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's how it feels when I put nickel in them like instantly. And I have a rash like on the outside of my ears, like on the front and the back. With gold. Yes. But Will was so proud of these earrings that he got me until I was like, I'm going to try to wear them. I also had, okay, you know, like the protective backs, like plastic one, like with the plastic, like the ones that like you screw on.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So like. Oh, so they don't fall out. They don't fall out. So also the ones that screw on, it's almost like a screw back part, you know, so it's like it's screwing into it. So it's a little bit thicker. So I go to put it in my ears and I'm like, these already hurt so bad, but I didn't want her feelings.
Starting point is 00:27:15 So I wore them and then my ears the next day felt like they were bleeding. They were like literally throbbing and he was like telling me that my earrings look nice and like everything. I was like, Will, will I like hate to have to tell you this, but I'm allergic to them. I'm allergic. Then they've got to go back because they're basically going to make me die. Both dramatic and I couldn't put earrings in for like weeks. Yeah, I bet.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Cause they were so swollen. That's how I get up about fake earrings, which is so weird because like if I wear like a ring that has nickel, nothing happens, nothing happens. It's something with the ears. I don't know what it is. And it's weird because like the, I've had my ears pierced for years. So it's not like, However you, when you got yours pierced, well, I, I was an infant, I got my pierced when
Starting point is 00:27:57 I was in like kindergarten and then I let them close and I want to get them done in next year. And my mom got them for again for me and then I let them close, I had them pierced like three times. Where did you go and get them pierced? My mom worked at a salon for a brief period of time that did ear piercings. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And, um, now I have several holes in my ears. So like all the way up your ear. No. I have three. Well, I think the third one might have closed. And then I have this one. What's that called? The Rook.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah. And then I have my cartilage twice actually. Oh, wow. I think it's on this one. And then I had my tragus pierced on my left ear, but I let it fell out and I just was like, fuck it. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 No. I have had my ears pierced since I was an infant. Oh. Why do my parents think that was a good idea? I think a lot of people get their, their kids ears pierced as an infant. I feel like if I had a daughter, I wouldn't know it's really like problematic because you feel naked, like your whole life. Like if you don't have them.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So I guess that's probably why I feel naked if I don't have them because I've literally had it since I was like brought into this world. I wonder if I had a daughter if what I would do, I don't know, because I know like some go right away and do it. I don't know that I would. I'd probably like have her wait to tell me. All right, guys, I want to remind you about this company that makes stylish shoes for women and girls out of recycled plastic water bottles.
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Starting point is 00:30:49 just like look around I guess, like ask who, you don't want to tell me how you found it right? No, I just like literally Googled it. I said crystal shops near me. And then the one that came up, one of the, I forget if it was the hair makeup girl, one of them was like, oh, we should go to this one. So I was like, actually that's the one that came up. So like all day when we were podcasting, I was like, well, do you think we'll be done
Starting point is 00:31:09 by this time? Because I really need to get to the crystal shop. Like every three minutes, Kale was like, well, the crystal shop closes at nine. So like, are we going to be finishing enough time because I really just want to go to the crystal store. Like I really just want to go. Like I felt like a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It was basically like somebody asking their mom to go to Toys R Us in like 1990. Yeah. That's basically what I would have pointed to. Like I just need to get there before nine. And I didn't know how far it was or anything. I'm not familiar with the area. So we went and I immediately it was like a kid in a candy shop. So I'm like looking around.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I'm seeing what crystals speak to me at some point I needed a basket. I'm buying crystals in the shapes of penises. Like it was just, there was so many options. We had to get into like this case that was like locked for like a specific crystal that I needed. Yeah. Kale claims that she needed. So also we go to Pond City Market for anybody who is familiar with Atlanta, which is like
Starting point is 00:32:08 the coolest place ever. Kale said it's like creepy because it's like industrialized. But it's cool. No, it's cool. And I believe in these crystals guys because normally if I would have parked there yesterday. Done with you. And you have to pay for parking right away. You have to pay for parking right away.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And there's like a lot of signs like everywhere you look. It says pay for parking upon arrival. I've somehow managed to miss all of these signs. I didn't see not one of them. But there was a lot of them. Right. Like when we were leaving we saw them. I didn't see any ever.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh my God. So we come out and I'm like, oh my God, when I, right when we walk out of the crystal store like and get to the parking lot, I'm like, oh my God, definitely going to have a ticket. I just started seeing all of these signs and I was like, oh my God. But I think it was the crystals talking to me like they were notifying me that I should have paid for parking. Right. And then I get to the car.
Starting point is 00:33:01 There's no ticket. We didn't have to pay for parking. But you do have to pay for parking, but we didn't have to pay for parking. And it was a really good feeling. Honestly. So I got Lindsay her first crystal. Yeah, she did. Tell them what it's for.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And okay. So I thought that citrine would be a good one for her first one. And I'm going to read to you what citrine is. I love it. We got it for Adam to Adam. For those of you don't know, Adam is our podcast producer and he puts up with us like so citrine activates the second and third chakras and aids in manifestation. It promotes financial wealth, prosperity, generosity and success.
Starting point is 00:33:47 So and I got another one, but we don't, we forget what it was. I want to say it was, I want to say that is sunstone, but I don't feel like we got it from the sunstone, but remember, I'll look in my encyclopedia when I get home. I have a crystal encyclopedia. Please let me know. But it basically is for basically like heal wounds from like your past and like to be able to move forward. So yeah, basically those were the two that I got.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And I also got sage. I'm going to start staging my place. I was very unaware like the sage looked like really big and like a lot of it. Some of them there, like I have a little one at home, like a little sage one, but you can get like big or you can get little, but I was so clueless. I was like, Kale, do you burn this whole thing at once? No. She's like, no, like definitely not, but how do you let it out?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like you just blow it out like a candle and it like goes away. Like this. Oh. Like you ask it. Sometimes it'll go out on its own. It depends. Yeah. That's like the universe speaking to you like you're good.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah. And make sure like a window or like a door is open when you do it so that the negativity can escape through. You don't want to like be burning it and then there's no window or door open because then you're defeating the whole purpose. So last night I went home, um, it was, it was really late when I went home. Yeah, it was. It was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I didn't get home until like 11 o'clock at night. And honestly, I feel like the crystals got me to the gas station because I was really pushing it. Like I had three miles left to the gallon, no, I had three miles left. Like it had already notified me two times low fuel and then it had three miles left. And literally when I pulled into the gas station, it said no miles, refuel, but I made it there. Have you ever run out of gas anywhere before? No, have you?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Yes, twice. But one time I will tell you I ran my car like all the way to empty and then, um, Julie got in the car to like take it up to like Zach's fees or something and then she broke down and then got so pissed. She was like, yeah, she broke down inside. So she, well, she wasn't broke down. She just ran out of gas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 So she ran out of gas. She ran out of gas in my car, but technically it would have been like me running out of gas, but like that's your fault for getting in it, you know, yikes. Um, I ran into, ran out of gas in the middle of a highway one time. What? Me and Isaac were on this. Yeah. And I was like trying to find a gas station, but it was like one, I wasn't familiar with
Starting point is 00:36:09 the area and two, every single gas station that I found was like eight or 10 miles away. So even if I had found one, I wasn't going to get there. So it was freezing cold. It was around Christmas time and it was me, Isaac and the baby, Lincoln was sick. And then one other time I ran out of gas, like when I was probably like 18 and I was going through McDonald's drive-thru and my car shut off and I was like, what's going on here? And then I like, it like rolled to the parking spot and I had run out of gas.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Oh my God. Yeah. So what do you do? You have to like walk to a gas station? No, I just called, at that time I called like Joe's brother or something and he like brought me gas. At the time on the highway, which was actually last year, I had to call a tow truck to take me to the gas station.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I would have honestly really thought that you would have known better, but again, I just did this last night. So well, but I've never broke down. I feel like I wouldn't probably run it to refuel if I'd ever broke down. I was looking for a gas. But does the car just shut off? Yeah. And you just don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:13 No, you just don't. Like I was lucky enough on the highway one to be able to get to the shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. When I realized, oh fuck. Oh my God. And then you wait like 45 minutes and there's no heat and it was went, it was literally December 28th.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And you have to go and get a tow truck. Yeah. Well, they, I had to call them and I was like, do I call 911 first? Like what do I, how do I handle this? You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, but no, I called the tow truck. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It just took really long time. So back to the crystals for a second. So I took these home. I didn't take them out of my car because I was like, I know I'm going to want them tomorrow and I don't want to forget them. So I left them wrapped up, left them in the front seat of my car. So when I got in the car this morning, I took them out and I like held them my whole way here because it's like the girl that was at the crystal store, her name was Chris.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And she was like, she had so many in each of her. She literally put her hands in both her pockets and pulled out like five of each, each hand. And each hand. And so I rode with them all the way here and I feel like it really was good for me. I don't know like what it was good for, but you want to cleanse them in like salt water or, um, there's other ways to cleanse them and then you can charge them in like the moonlight or the sunlight. So instead of like on anybody who's listening, if you're into these crystals and Kale hates
Starting point is 00:38:29 when people call them rocks, two people in the last week have called them rocks and I'm like, what is wrong with you? Like it's, it's a real thing. Um, Kale's really into it and I've always kind of been like curious about stuff like this and like curious about witches and like psychics. I've always been like very curious. So I think I'm getting into this, to be perfectly honest and I text will a picture of us sitting here and with the crystals.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He was like, what are you doing? And I was like podcasting. So I like send him a picture, you know, just easier to send a picture than text. So he was like, are those crystals? And I was like, they are so we can post it on. And then he was like, wait, what are those four? I'm like, um, I don't really know, but they feel good and he's like, Oh, well, I need some healing.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So I'm like, well, what kind of healing do you need? The penis healing? I don't know. Um, that was inappropriate. Um, I'm talking about the crystals, the tiny Kale ball, like tiny penis crystals, but they're like for like sexual healing and, and stuff like that. Like they're not meant to be inappropriate. But like kind of, yeah, because when we were checking out, the girl was like, penises don't
Starting point is 00:39:44 really look like this. The last time I saw one, she was like, the balls did not look like this at all. Right. They were not perky like this. For sure. Kale was like, definitely. They were a lot saggier. Like what?
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Starting point is 00:40:51 That's lendingclub.com slash combos, lendingclub.com slash combos, all loans made by web bank member FDIC equal housing lender. So are you and Leah going to Miami with me for my 30th birthday? Yeah. I'm going to try. No. No, I really am. I just need to figure out moving because I haven't moved yet.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I want to settle in. I want to make sure that everything's in its place before I pick up and leave again. That's the only thing that I need to... We're going to be like the hangover. Oh my... Well, I'm not the one that loses a tooth. Like I'm not. You're...
Starting point is 00:41:25 You've got to be the one because you're the only one that has been here. So like naturally... So naturally I have to lose it? Yeah. Because if we lose one, it's going to be the real one, you know what I mean? Like if you lose yours... I'm not that one. You're going to be replaced.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I guess. But... Leah's going to be the one that loses the tooth. You can be the one that has the baby on the front. Yeah. And I don't know which one I'm going to be. I'm probably going to be the one passed out like on the top of the roof of the mattress. Which one is the one that like was...
Starting point is 00:41:49 Got the tiger or something? That'll probably be me. That's you. Okay. That's definitely probably me. Definitely. It's going to be so much fun. I love that we texted Leah last night and she was like, okay, so we're going to Miami?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah. Like she was just like completely just on board. Okay. Just to clarify, we're going to Miami? Yeah. Yeah. We are... I've never partied in Miami, so I don't know what it's like, but I've heard it's a good
Starting point is 00:42:09 time. We're going on a boat. That's Leah's favorite thing to do. Favorite thing. And we're going to just have a good time. So we'll keep you guys updated. I'm turning 30, unfortunately. 30, 30.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I don't know if I'm like sad or... I heard that you live your best life in your 30s. Super excited. But I feel like my dad might have gone through like a crisis when he turned 30. I can't remember. That would be like a quarter life crisis. Yeah, but I feel like he was like sad that he was turning 30. I definitely remember that.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I heard that the best times is 30s. Everybody keeps telling me that. Everybody tells me that. Yeah. I don't know how true it is. I heard sex is amazing in your 30s. You did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 No, I really heard that. Like that's a real thing. Adam, can you confirm? Absolutely. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Okay, so can you please update me on this group chat thing that you had going on about
Starting point is 00:43:04 this Puerto Rico cruise ship? We're switching gears and this is like sad. This is really sad. I didn't actually hear about it on my own. It was sent in a group chat with my friends and so she sent me this, one of my friends sent me this article about the little girl who fell off the cruise ship and hit the dock and passed away. And I guess the families...
Starting point is 00:43:27 So it was docked? It was docked in Puerto Rico. This cruise ship, as far as I know, was docked in Puerto Rico and from what I understand, the little girl was like used to like banging on the glass, I guess, at like her brother's hockey games, which is like a tradition. And the grandfather was watching the little girl and she crawled over and she wanted to be lifted higher. So he stood her up on the railing.
Starting point is 00:43:53 If I'm wrong, write us. Let us know. I'm sure somebody will. He stood her up on the railing and I think he let go for a brief second and the window was actually open and she fell out the window and passed away. Oh no. So obviously the family's attorney was saying that the ship was at fault, but in my group chat they were debating because some of the...
Starting point is 00:44:17 It's me and my one friend are moms and then the other two girls in our group chat are not moms. And I think that does weigh in a little bit on how you might feel about it, but one of the girls was saying it's 100% the cruise fault, the cruise lines fault. But then the mom, one of the... My mom friends was saying that she feels like the caregiver was more at fault because as a parent and as a caregiver, you know better than to let go of a child, like a small child that you're putting on a railing.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's like sitting a child or standing the child on a counter and walking away. So just a little background information on it. People did an article. The parents did an interview for the first time after their 18 month old passed away like earlier in the month, opening up on the Today Show Monday in an emotional conversation. They recalled the traumatic scene following the incident when her grandfather placed her on a railing near a window that he believed to be a closed part of a glass wall. He was extremely hysterical.
Starting point is 00:45:27 The thing that he repeatedly told us is I believe that there was a glass. He will cry over and over and at no point ever, ever has Sam put our kids in danger. It just says very distraught to the point where you can barely look at him without crying. Chloe was his best friend. I really feel for this family because it was obviously a mistake like he, I mean, regardless of whose fault it was, it doesn't take away how horrible it is. So apparently while in the children's play area, the Caribbean cruise ship Chloe tragically died after she fell more than 10 stories onto a concrete dock.
Starting point is 00:46:14 She was used to being next to a glass, having a habit of banging on the panels at a hockey rink while attending her brother's games and practices. So I'm confused. Was this place like in an area where all kids were playing? Because at that point I do kind of see the argument of why wasn't there a glass if it could have been? No, there was a glass, but it was open. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I wonder why it was open. Well, I mean, it's probably hot. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like you can't play the blame game here because it truly was an accident. And the parents, it's going to be hard for them because they lost their child, but also it's one of their parents that was basically responsible for this and that dad has to live
Starting point is 00:47:04 with that for the rest of his life. And they probably can't help, but to have, I mean, as a parent, you would have some sense of resentment, like you would go through all of the emotions, obviously, you know. I just, that's so sad. And you and I were talking about this the other day about putting Lux into survival like swim classes because I feel like so many people, where was I that I was like, oh, I was at the beach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 When I said that I saw a little girl, there was like three pools where we were staying and it was kind of like tiered for like all ages. So there was one that was more like really shallow water and it had the like the mushrooms, you know, and stuff that has the water. Yeah. Then the next one was like a smaller little area pool, but it was deeper, but it was like really small. And then the other one was like the full size pool and it was like five and a half feet
Starting point is 00:47:58 or something like that. So they had craft table set up near like the really small pool and I was watching Jackson do the crafts and there was some parents that had gone back to their chair, maybe to get sunscreen. I don't know, you know, like something to go back to their chair and their little girl had on a life jacket and she fell forward like in the water, it was like two seconds though, like fell forward and her face was in the water and she was like foiling around or whatever you call it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And the parents literally turned their head for two seconds. And when they came back to, you know, they picked her up because the life jacket had like a thing on it. Obviously they were freaking out. I think that's a lot of times parents don't realize that if you don't have the proper vest or it's not on properly, you can actually do more damage than good with the life vest. So like some of them are like heavier in the front and you will literally turn your body over and put your face in the water. So all my best though, aren't approved like by for children for children.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I mean, you have to check and make sure that it's like an approved like it's, I don't know what the thing is that like approves it. But I think puddle jumpers are approved through some type of safe for kids. People wear kids wear life vest all the time that are like too high up on their shoulders. And you know, that's not going to do anything like Lux won't, Lux won't wear one. So I literally, he cannot leave anyone site in the water like he just, he won't, he freaks out and I want to do the survival and I actually looked into it, but I haven't been able to find anyone that will come to our pool and do it at home.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And I think that the only places that you can go to are over an hour away. Well, Jackson did, he did regular swimming classes. He did do regular swimming classes to get him acclimated to water. But I think the problem is, is that you can never turn your head never kids. Like when there's water, like you, you just can't. I've seen so many incidents, incidences where there's almost accidents that happened that could have turned the other way. There was a little kid that a nanny was responsible for taking them to and from day camp and the
Starting point is 00:50:06 day camp had a limit size swimming pool and it was in Atlanta. And somehow the day camp like had turned their eye and the little kid got like in the water and had drowned by the time like the instructor was and that was at the swim classes. It was like at a day camp, like where they could like swim and stuff and the kid had already drowned. So I'm, I don't know, you know, I'm like freakish about water, literally terrifies me. Dry drowning and I don't know what that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:38 It's like where they swallow water and that's something that came about, I had never heard of it up until like two years ago. I just heard about it now. My father-in-law told me about it and he said like, be careful with Jackson, like make sure he doesn't swallow any water, whatever I heard about this dry drowning like on the news. It's like where they swallow water and it like gets in their lungs and I guess, oh, like ask, is it aspirate?
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah. It's literally terrifying. So if you're in Kale's area and you know where she lives and you know of a, what do you call it, survival swim teacher that will come to her house, let us know. Yeah. Somebody will tell us. Super helpful.
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Starting point is 00:53:34 to pick up the kids, but at that point the children were already dead. The man was 39 years old. He called his wife when he was leaving his job. He was a social worker at a VA hospital and after he began driving his car, he saw his kids in the car seat in the rearview mirror and at that point, obviously it was like traumatic and they're saying that he made a terrible mistake, but here's the thing. I don't want to say that he didn't make a mistake or it wasn't truly a mistake, but this is literally like a copycat case to me for the kid I told you about that passed away
Starting point is 00:54:19 in Atlanta. I think it was in 2012, maybe? Yeah, it made national news, but he actually killed his child, he was trying to kill his child. Yeah. For those of you who don't know what story we're talking about, we've talked about it before, but go ahead. He passed away in the corporate home depot parking lot.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He was intentionally trying to kill his child. Well the weird thing was, that's the story you're talking about, right? Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about, but Will and I lived not too far from there. They actually had gone to the Chick-fil-A that we frequented in the morning for breakfast and they left their house, got him out of the car to go to Chick-fil-A breakfast, put him back in the car, drove to his work that was literally like, and I've traveled these roads so I know, his work was literally three minutes from the Chick-fil-A, and the day care was supposedly like at, it was like the corporate day care, so he never took the kid
Starting point is 00:55:17 to the day care and he parked his car like a far away way in the parking lot. And then lied about it. Lied about it, and then supposedly he was like supposed to be making, he was going to lunch with co-workers and he was supposed to be making an exchange for light bulbs or something like that, and they were in his car and people were like, oh, his co-workers were like, oh, well you can just drive, and he was like, no, I can't drive, I don't have gas or something like that, I forget what his lie was, but the reason, he went back to his car to get something out, and Cooper was in the car already, still in the car,
Starting point is 00:55:53 and he knew that he was in the car, yeah, and they had also taken out an insurance policy on the baby, like, I think the wife knew about it too. Oh, so yeah, that's a piece I didn't know that the wife knew about it, or maybe I did know, and I don't remember, but. They took out an insurance policy on him, a life insurance policy on him, several weeks before this happened, so I think it was all completely premeditated on his work computer, they had like, he had typed in, how hot would it have to be for a small animal to like die in a car or something, like it was crazy, Google searches and stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So this case kind of like reminded me of that, I mean obviously like you can forget stuff and not be mindful, but if you have two kids in the car, I highly doubt that you forgot that they were there. I just don't, unless they're both asleep, I guess it would be hard for you to, that's, I mean I have three kids, and like sometimes I'll be driving and I'm like, oh my god, I'll have lucks in the car, and he'll just be so quiet, and I'm like, oh my god, did I forget my child somewhere, and I have to like reach back and make sure he's, do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yep. And I've said this before, but my suburban actually tells me, like even if it's heavy groceries or I just have something in the car, it'll literally remind me if there's weight back there, reminder, check back seat, it literally says that for a month. Right. I mean I know not all cars have that, but I mean that's definitely a feature. Mostly like newer models do have that, I think, I think it's like a requirement that they have it.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But also who has kids that are that quiet that you just forget? No, but this is the thing where I think that they're going to find him guilty. And twins at that, it's not one child that fell asleep and you didn't hear them and you forgot. But he also had a four year old son in the car that he dropped off at a separate day care. Oh, yeah, which is why I think it's going to like, they're going to find him guilty. I really do think that.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And I don't know how long the kids had been in the car. It didn't really say the period of time, I mean, I've taken literally, I have Isaac at one school and the littles at another school and I've never like, like I've forgotten to take, like I would go and they're literally in opposite directions. So like when you come out of my neighborhood, Lincoln and Lux go to the right and Isaac goes to the left. I've literally started driving to the right first, but Isaac was supposed to go first and I'm like, oh, let me turn around and go back to take Isaac and then take the littles.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But I wouldn't, when you want to drop one off, you still do not, I'm saying, I feel like that would have you, he to have remembered to drop the four year old son off at a day care would indicate to me that it was intentional. Yeah. I don't mean, I don't want to say that because I don't know, you know, the whole situation other than what I've just read in the media, but you remember to take one to daycare, but then you didn't remember to take the two to daycare. And by the time that the medics got there and stuff, the girls were foaming at the mouth.
Starting point is 00:59:00 So it's like, it's not, I just don't get it. And on that point, was it you that was telling me about somebody getting in an argument with somebody in like a target parking lot about leaving a dog in the car? Maybe it wasn't you. I don't think so. It was like a few days ago. I don't know who told me this, but I remember the story of what I was told, someone told me that they were sitting in a parking lot of target and the people like right next to
Starting point is 00:59:26 them were having an argument, it was like a girl and a man and there was a dog in the car and the man didn't want to leave the dog in the car and the girl was like, I do it all the time. And like the person that told me this said that their window was down and they were like listening to this whole thing of an argument and then she intervened. Like she, she was like, you can't leave the dog in the car. Like obviously it's just like leaving a kid in the car. Like it's hot outside.
Starting point is 00:59:49 The dog could die. I think people, I don't know if people don't realize it. I just don't know. Do you know what I'm saying, like do people not realize like how hot it gets in the car or do they think they're only going to be somewhere like for a short period of time? But then I feel like you're leaving yourself vulnerable to forget or to do, you know what I'm saying? Like it's one thing if you're running in five bucks to the gas station and you're coming
Starting point is 01:00:12 out to pump your gas and leaving, but to go into target, you're subjecting yourself to I'm, you probably didn't bring that dog water. No. And. And anybody knows if you're going to target, like you're going to be there hours, right? It's the middle of summer, even putting a window down, it's too hot. Definitely. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So, I mean, if this is the wintertime, I don't, I mean, no, because then the dogs can get cold. Like there's just no, no, I just don't, that's not a thing. It's not a thing. Don't leave your dogs, cats, if you travel around with cats in your car, don't leave them in the car and don't leave your babies in the car. And I'll be very interested to see whenever this goes to trial, what, I don't know if they'll, do they try all of these cases or I mean, I don't know.
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Starting point is 01:03:15 I mean, when I heard about it, I was like, well, it popped up on your iPhone. Do you get the notifications of like the national news? No. You don't. So I must have some type of like, um, I must have turned on some type of like, I don't know. But I saw it was like a shooting in Walmart. They said at the time, whenever I first saw it, that they didn't know like how many shooters it was, but they believed it to be one shooter.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Right. Um, hold on a second, let me pull up. That's so fucking, I know two countries issued warnings, I guess, for traveling to the U.S. Where did you see that? Um, I think the shade room posted it. Um, how scary is that that we live somewhere that people are being notified that it might be dangerous? Like that's literally terrifying.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Okay. So what was super interesting about this was that reports, um, on the New York Post say that the mother of the El Paso Walmart shooting, um, called the police weeks before the massacre because she was worried about her son owning an AK style assault rifle. Where are they getting them? So the boy was 21 years old and, um, the mom was concerned that, you know, obviously if one of my kids came home with, um, an assault rifle, I would be like, what the fuck do you plan on doing with this?
Starting point is 01:04:51 And why do you have this? Like, where did you get this? Where did you get the money? How did this happen? Like, I don't understand how we're issuing guns like this to just any fucking buddy. And like all of these mass shootings have been done with guns that are legal. But why is that legal to a 21 year old who has, I bet you he has no training. He's probably not, have never been in the military.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's funny that you say that as a mom because the mom said to law enforcement that given his age, maturity level and lack of experiencing handling such a firearm that he shouldn't have it. Right. And that's why she was so concerned. My point. This is not, we're not giving these weapons to people who are trained in the military who are, have a purpose for them.
Starting point is 01:05:36 We're literally giving them to any fucking buddy who applies. Right. It's about money at the, at the cost of what, at what, at what cost, the, the lives of people who are innocent, don't see it coming. There's two parents that died protecting their fucking baby. Like, could you imagine? Like just going to Walmart on any given day to shop and you're with your kids and someone comes in who's 21 years old, they don't know what they're doing so that the government
Starting point is 01:06:04 can make money. Okay. He killed 22 people and wounded dozens of other people. Yep. So now those parents of three kids, those kids are going to grow up without both of their parents because someone wanted to, yeah, play with, what was it, an AK, A-K-A-R-A-K, whatever. A-K style.
Starting point is 01:06:29 It didn't say, like, specifically, it does say though that the investigator that's investigating this said that the shooter had posted a rambling about anti-immigrant stuff online 20 minutes before the shooting and they're treat, they're treating that as a domestic terrorist case. So says that they were going to seek the death penalty as they should and he has been charged with capital murder. So there's other ways for the government to make money than to be selling these weapons to people who shouldn't have them. I just don't understand.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Like, I had, okay, and I know a lot of people because this is, you know, a political rant that some people will say, but if we didn't talk about it, people would say that we were avoiding a topic that was relevant and that we should talk about it and we should give our opinion about it, but when we do, then we have people go on there and say, oh, we're ignorant or we're this or we're that. But I did post there was a quote that was put out by NBC, President Trump orders American flags in the U.S. around the world lowered to half staff until August 8th at sunset as a mark of solemn respect for the El Paso and Dayton mass shooting attack victims.
Starting point is 01:08:00 But my whole point with that is that's good and great and we should be flying our flag at half staff, however, I don't know how many lives that this is going to save. We've done this before and all the other mass shootings, right? It's empty gestures and I don't understand why politicians every time something like this happens, it's like they cower down and they say we're praying, you know, let's send prayers. Well, prayers are not going to prevent. I don't think.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Prayers are needed because they're to some people, yeah, I think so. But I also think that they keep happening and nothing that we're doing is working. So it sounds to me like we need to try something new. I agree. And half staff flags and prayers are not going to cut it. I definitely agree. And I think that they need to get off of their ass and they need to do their fucking jobs. And that's just the facts.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And if you want to disagree, that's fine. That's just my opinion, but at the same time, we both do have school age children and a lot of these shootings are happening in schools and just in public places that we would take our kids. Kids, yeah. Walmart. I mean, come on. It's like, should you not feel safe to be able to just go into Walmart and go in the school
Starting point is 01:09:22 supply aisle and not fear to be like looking around? That's probably why so many people deal with anxiety problems in this world today because you have to be constantly worrying, looking around. Like when I go into a public place, it's terrifying that my first thought is I need to look around and see what type of people are in here to see if something potentially you wouldn't even know. You wouldn't even know. You wouldn't even know.
Starting point is 01:09:45 It's terrifying. Literally could be someone that is lives next door. You literally don't know when I posted that on my Instagram. I was so angry whenever I saw the, you know, shooting and got the news of it because it's like how many times does this have to happen for somebody to change something for them to do something and create change? And the amount of messages of people sending me stuff saying, you shouldn't be worried about gun laws.
Starting point is 01:10:12 It's not a gun law problem. We do have to be worried because when we all have to think twice about going to the fucking grocery store or sending our kids to a public school, I mean, yeah, we should be worried about that. Yeah, we should. And my whole point was that, you know, a lot of people had commented and were like, it's a people problem. It's not a gun problem.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It's okay. It's both, which would even be more reason to have stricter gun laws because if it's a people problem, why would we give the people access to be able to have these things? Like, I don't know what the solution is. I'm not acting like I'm like Congress and like I can come up with some type of solution. Like for me, I definitely think that they need to crack down on like having stricter gun laws. I know a 21 year old should have access to an AK type of rifle.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Like I just don't. And we never talk about this on the podcast anymore. And literally we just talked about this yesterday that we don't talk about specific people on here anymore. But I mean, the amount of ammunition when the Secret Service showed up, oh, we can't talk about it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm shaking my head.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Like I already know what you're about to say. Like I know. The amount of ammunition that who went out to the CIA or well, I know the CIA went. Yeah. And they found like his stash or whatever of stuff. I don't know. I saw it. I saw it on social media.
Starting point is 01:11:39 He like posted it. Maybe he posted it. But it was like a whole stash of basically like you could do some major damage with that amount of stuff and like bump stocks and stuff like that. Isn't that what the shooter in Vegas used was like a bump stock and set up like different stations or whatever. I just don't. I'm not saying nobody should own them.
Starting point is 01:12:01 That's my opinion. But I mean, there's a difference between like the weapons or the guns that you would use for hunting. And then there's a difference where you have what you have for protection solely for protection. I don't know who needs an assault rifle. No. No. Unless you're deployed, you know, and that's like military.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's like, I don't know. I don't know. I just don't. I get so mad. I was so heated when you got, when you started talking about it. Cause I was like, there's so much I want to say. But I feel like I can't say it because of the backlash. I also just like don't.
Starting point is 01:12:38 We try not to talk about a whole lot of politics on here. But I think you're right. Like if we don't talk about it and it is relevant, then we get backlash also. So it's just one of those things that like. We're going to talk about it and we're going to get backlash or we're not going to talk about it and we're going to be like your cowards because you didn't say anything. So that's really how I feel. I have a little one that is in school and it's literally terrifying that I pray every
Starting point is 01:13:01 single night and every single morning, like God, please protect my child. Make sure that he remains happy, safe and healthy. And you worry about psychopaths. I mean, think about it. Like people have access to so much stuff that you could literally be sitting in traffic and somebody get road raged and pull out a gun on you. Oh. I'm pretty sure someone did that too.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, well, yeah, I know about that too. I saw it one time. It's crazy. So I don't know how you guys feel about it. If you want to let us know, let us know, but make sure that you don't go on the post and start commenting to other people saying that they're wrong or that we're wrong. Everybody can have an opinion. We don't know what the solution is.
Starting point is 01:13:50 We don't know if there is a solution at this point, if it's only going to get worse. But it's amazing how the United States has all of these mass shootings, but everywhere else doesn't have them. Yeah. So I would say it's a US problem. Yeah, like a big US problem, probably. Yeah. So on that note, do you have anything happy to say?
Starting point is 01:14:15 Happy? No. Well, you're moving this weekend. I am moving. I'm just hoping that I moved. I want to sleep at my new house on Friday. I want to sleep there. I want to settle in.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I want to just, I don't even care if I'm not unpacked, but I just want to start. Like, I just want to. I feel like everyone halted. Like, I have my friend's company is painting and he's texting me this morning, like, where do you want your TVs? Like, I'll mount them for you. Like, what are we doing? I'm calling my friend.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Like, can you go pick up the U-Haul tomorrow? I don't get in until I land tonight at home. Well, not at home in Philly at nine. And then I don't even, I won't actually get my bags and get home probably until like 1130. So, or 11. And then I have to be at the new house at 730 AM because I'm surprising the kids with a play set.
Starting point is 01:15:04 They didn't know that I ordered them a place. So I'm like, there's just so, and then I have to film as soon as I get home tomorrow or I get home tonight. And as soon as I get up tomorrow, they're filming because they want to film me do everything. And I'm like, literally. It's going to look like a hot mess express. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:23 But I have to like fake the walkthrough. Like I have to do like, I already bought the house. I've already moved half my shit in there, but now I have to pretend like I didn't put the offer in yet. Right. So, because they missed that whole part. And they missed me. Well, we talked about it on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Well, also it's like, how do you do a walkthrough in a house? Like how do they film you do a walkthrough when you didn't buy it? So they would be filming in someone else's home at the time. Do you know what I mean? So like that just like wasn't a thing. So luckily I had to paint it before I moved in and. And then Kale goes and has it painted and then they send her pictures of it. And she's like, it's two different paint colors.
Starting point is 01:15:58 But it looks the same. Yeah. So I'm like, well, I don't literally Lindsay. When you walk in, it literally looks like the entire house is painted the same color. And it's like, I love that. Really? Yeah. But I just like painting it for that.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I should have just left it. No, because wasn't it like all different colors? No, it was two colors. Oh, it's two colors. That clashed and looked very similar. That's why you changed it. And it was like, I don't know what was going on in here. Like.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Okay. That's a good poll. Like would, if you're painting in your house, do you paint the entire house the same color? Or do you go and paint every room a different color? Because I would say you pick like two or three colors that go in the same like scheme. And then you paint it accordingly. But do you not go on Zillow sometimes and be like, what the fuck were they thinking? Yeah, I'll go on Zillow and I'll be like, for this reason I'm out.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Like the fact that the painting alone costs a couple thousand dollars. So it's like, yeah, I could see someone being turned away by like, oh, wow, this is like deep red. Like how the fuck am I supposed to cover this? And then why did you put a border of like baseball is like around like the thing. And then it's like green on one side and like purple on one side. It's like weird. Like it's not really related to paint, but it's related to something similar. So while I was looking for the house, mind you, I've been looking for a year.
Starting point is 01:17:23 So in this one development, I went into it's all custom homes. Well, I don't care if it's custom and you plan on living there for 20 years or it's custom and you're only going to live there for five. To me, you always think about the resell value. I do too. When you're customizing a home, you have to think about what's functional and what would work overall. I went into this one house that was custom. It looks so pretty on the outside. And one of my requirements just because I have a pool now was to have a pool for the kids.
Starting point is 01:17:49 This one, you can't go from a house with a pool with kids right out of pool. You can go from one without two unless they're grown, whatever. But this house fit all the criteria had the bedrooms, the in-home office and the pool. Well, I walked in and three of the bedrooms were connected with no hallway. So you had to walk through the other kids bedrooms to get to the bathroom or to the hallway in the beds were in like it was like they like built them into the wall. Like cubbies for mattresses. And the whole time, I walked in and I wanted to be like, what the fuck did you bring me here for? But obviously like my realtor didn't realize that.
Starting point is 01:18:31 He was just trying to match the criteria that I asked for. But I was like, when you guys built this home, did you not think about that? That's what I'm saying. Like I will go on Zillow literally and I realize how some people just don't have brains because I will go on there. That house was and it was listed for way, I mean it was outdated plus that and then like it probably was listed. Oh, that's the other thing. Will says this all the time. He's like, when people have ownership in something and like they've created it like one time we went on Zillow and we saw this house and it was like Pinterest blew up. Like it looked like the lady literally lived on Pinterest and like she did all these ideas in there.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Like DIY. Yeah, but like they didn't make sense, right? But like it was listed for so high and it was like she was so proud. Yeah, like that personal attachment. And I'm like, I gotta rip all this shit out. Like that's how this house was. Like I would have to reconfigure the entire upstairs and then I was just like you listed it for like like your $750,000. I would never pay that.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah, never. Or like I'll go into like, like some Pinterest ideas are super cute. Yeah. But when people try to do the DIY to save money and then like in pictures, it looks really pretty and then you get up close and you're like, oh, it looks like my eight year old did this. My nine year old did this. It's like, do you want to do some projects like that? I can't like not in a home that you own. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:59 Like if it's something that you're trying to do or whatever, but like. I'm like, if I'm creating an Airbnb, maybe like to make some money off of and I want to like kind of DIY my shit. Right, but I'm not going to like DIY my laminate flooring or like my hardwoods because it sounds like a good idea. And then I do it and I'm like, oh wow, the corners don't match up, but I'm going to stuff it with some caulk. You know what I'm saying? Do you get what I mean? And you like see it on Instagram and it looks so good. And you're like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I actually know a specific person that I can think of that has done this, but I cannot say the person's name. No, I can't either. And I'm like, I know, I know what it looks like in person. But on Instagram, I'm like so good. And I'm like, how do they, how do they achieve that? Like, wow, he's so handy. And then you're like, you get there and you're like, this is not what it looks like. And have your house looking like that.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Yeah. Like sometimes we'll make a project and I'll be like, I'm glad that you like. We are probably talking about half of our listeners. We should probably stop. Okay. If you're DIYing, like that's so good for you. Like I'm so glad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And if you're proud of it, that's great. Yeah. I'm just not a type of person that could DIY because I would fuck it up. And I don't have the patience for it. You know what I mean? Like I'm not getting out caulk and doing like all that shit. No. But trying to do a back splash.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Like my shit would be so uneven. Like. Oh, no. Could you imagine like me doing a back splash? Like it would probably take 12 years because I'm such a type A personality. That's what I'm saying. Get our ruler and like, I would rather have the builder grade.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Like, you know how sometimes you can get like the basic builder grade, whatever. I'd rather have that and it look nice up close. Me too. Then to try to like redo it, rip it out and like, like that's why I'm having a problem with resurfacing my cabinets. It's like, I'm afraid to resurface them and someone doesn't do them nicely. And then they look like I just literally painted them myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Well, at that point, you should probably just paint them yourself. Yeah. Exactly. It's kind of like Lux's birthday cake. The second one. Well, let's talk about that on the next episode. So for anybody who's listening, if you're a DIYer, but you're like really good, then send us some pictures of your stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah. I want to see the corners of y'all's floors and paint and stuff. And also tell us like if it really looks like that in person or if it just looks like that on pictures, because I know that we are not the only people that feel this way. Right. Because we both know somebody that does this stuff. So, but I think that's all we have time for. Yeah.
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