Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 96: Lindsie's Truth, Kail at the VMAs, & Javi's Breakup

Episode Date: September 12, 2019

Kail describes the VMAs, how she & Leah got sick & had fashion mishaps. Kail updates us on her dog, why it hit her hard, & explaining death to kids. Lindsie reveals why she called 911 because of Kail. Lindsie talks about Kail's crazy life. Lindsie addresses the sex tape allegations & why the situation was in poor taste. Lindsie gives an update on her marriage, why Will has stood by her & how Jackson is doing. Kail gives us an update on Javi & Lauren & why she was called to the scene of the crime

Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of coffee combos podcast. Hi Lindsey. Good morning. I feel like I haven't talked to you in forever. It's been definitely been a hot minute. And we talked but not on podcast, not on the podcast. Yeah, I mean, we're always texting on our BS every day, but I'm just saying like recording and like catching up and going into details about stuff. It just feels brand new. Right. So where do we start because honestly, how was last week when it was your first time? What Lindsey last week kicked my ass so hard that I was truly like there has to be a rainbow after this horrible storm like there has to be my I mean, you know, she's been highly requested and I, you know what? I was sad that you weren't there because I really wanted it to be the first time I had, first of all, I had wanted her to be on the podcast with you in person. And that's why I think that yeah, even though she was very highly requested, I was putting it off because I wanted us all to be together for it. But it didn't work out that way. So I told her that maybe the next time we record in person, you guys, you can come here and we can record in person because I really want you to meet her. I know.

She's a good time to a little, a little bit of the episode and from what I heard, it was funny. And I had posted like all the stuff on the Instagram and everything and obviously everybody loves Becky. And from what I understand, she's turning straight woman into possible lesbians. So I'm just like, what in the world sexuality, you know, around her. I don't yeah. Well, and then a lot of people were talking about being wedding crashers. And then there was some like really funny stories that came through about people who have actually crashed weddings before. And I was just like, what in the actual hell is going on and what am I reading right now because I didn't get to listen to the entire episode but I'm about like 20 minutes in. So I'll keep you updated on what I think about it, but I just wanted to know like what it was like hosting by yourself because you've never done it. I haven't. Well, I did it with Katie more in for one episode, but Adam was there and I think Susie might have been there for that episode too. So yeah, you're right.

It was probably my first time and it was my first time doing like the behind the scenes work for it too. Like we wrote the notes. So I was like, I just kept typing and typing and I was like, okay, this is not I'm not doing this right. So I had a newfound respect for me after I did because I was like, what the fuck am I really supposed to be typing here? Like what am I typing? So I texted Adam and I'm like, I feel like I'm literally just doing like, you know, when you go to court and you they type every single thing that's said and everything that happens. Like, I thought I was doing that. Yeah, I thought I was doing that and I was like, this isn't this isn't right. So I had to text Adam and be like, what the fuck do I need to do here? Oh, my God. But it was a good episode. So it was fine. Well, I'm so glad and for all the people that commented under that post saying that they're ready for me to come back.

I was ready to come back to about obviously like my life was a whirlwind last week. Actually for like the past two and a half weeks, I guess it's been. So I'm going to let Kale talk about her nonsense of stuff that went on last week and then we can kind of get like more into that. Honestly, though, I think it really it life hit you hard, like so fucking hard. And then on the tail end of that, I got hit in the face with with the baseball bat, basically. So at least that's what it felt like. I was first, Leah and I went to the VMAs and when we got there, we both ended up with strep throat. I don't know how we didn't make out. And then so I pick her up from the airport on Sunday, we drive into the city Monday morning, we both wake up and we're like, oh my God, we have strep throat. So then we get start getting ready and I said, mind you, I had no outfit for this fucking event. And sit down in the chair for hair and makeup and the vet calls me and they had bear since Saturday. So I knew they thought, okay, we'll keep them for a couple nights here monitor his progress.

He got really sick on Saturday night. And I was like, okay, well, if they're going to keep him regardless, I might as well go to the VMAs because I was unsure at first because I didn't know how long they were going to keep him or whatever. And they said they were keeping him regardless. So I was like, okay, well, I might as well go because sitting at home, I'm not going to. It's not going to do anything. So, right. I sit down and hair and makeup on Monday already have strep throat still don't have an outfit for this fucking event and I get a call from the vet and they're like bear has a big mask on a spleen and he also has gastrointreatis. So that is inflammation of the stomach, large and small intestines. And so it explains why he's basically had uncontrolled bowel movements for the past week. And I couldn't figure it out. I thought maybe he was mad at me. And I know that sounds so dumb. But if you have a dog, sometimes you think, okay, well, you know, I was really busy this week. I didn't get to take you on as many walks or I didn't get to, you know, spend as much time with you. So maybe he's, or maybe I'm just missing him having to go outside. So I thought, I don't know.

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But basically that that's not really going to help like it's not going to do anything. So but on the other hand he can basically collapse at any moment and bleed out. Oh wow. So I'm just crying and they're filming this. They're filming all of it because they're filming me and Leah and the city together for the VMAs. And I'm like what the actual fuck. So I'm like I'm not going to do the surgery if it's not going to benefit him long term. I mean he's only seven and a half. And they're like well why put him through like right trauma for if it's not going to really do anything. So then I'm like what's another option they said we can check with an ultrasound in two weeks. I said well if I'm ultimately not going to do the surgery. It doesn't make sense to then do the ultrasound. Because I mean at the end of the day we are talking about money here and I've already spent just to have him in the vet from Saturday until Tuesday until Monday was 4400. And then the surgery would be another three to four thousand. And then on top of that if I was to not do the surgery and then do the ultrasound it would have been the visit plus the four hundred dollar ultrasound. But he would be so uncomfortable and in pain in the for those two weeks until the ultrasound if he even made it to the ultrasound so came home.

Go ahead. No I'm just about to cry. Oh my gosh don't cry. It was it was rough but I mean I guess hindsight I say this every fucking episode I swear to God is always 2020. I looked back and I was like all these signs that he was showing that I missed and I thought that it was something else I felt horrible and I already had a vet appointment scheduled for Wednesday at 12 because I wanted to confirm cancer. I found a growth on his leg and I was like OK I'm something is something's not right so I already had this vet appointment like a regular vet appointment not an emergency vet. And so I called the vet back and I was just like this isn't going to be we have to put him down like this isn't going to be to confirm cancer. This is because he has cancer and he's in pain and he's you know he couldn't get up off the floor on Friday on Saturday night. That's why we took him I was at the vet until 3am and they ended up keeping him but so long story short I'm dragged this out as long as I have. We had to put Bear down on Wednesday last Wednesday so it's been almost a week without him and it's just been really hard. I never that he was my first dog I ever had and I don't feel like he was here long enough.

I mean I don't think seven and a half years was that long and I basically explained it to the kids I asked them you know did they want to be there. Did they have any questions and they all said that they will two out of three said that they wanted to be there. So I said OK I'm not one to sugarcoat things and I want to explain life to my kid life and death to my kids in an honest way and and have an open dialogue about it. So they were both really upset and then they came they came to the vet and I held Bear all the way through it and Isaac chose to stay in the room all the way up until they started injecting him. So I thought he was really really brave for that and it was just it was difficult it was really really difficult. So that's where we're at after that I was hospitalized so they thought I had fucking meningitis but it turned out to wait a minute. First of all literally that breaks my heart. It was Lindsay.

I was making like the worst the weirdest noises ugly crying so fucking hard like it was. I don't think that anyone could have prepared me for and they even asked me they're like are you sure you want to be in the room for this and I was like this is my dog like this is my child. I'm not going to let him do it by himself. I couldn't I didn't understand why they would ask me did I want to be in the room of course I wanted to be in the room. But then when it was happening I was like oh my God and I couldn't stop. I'm going to cry. I couldn't stop apologizing to him because I felt like I missed the signs you know and I I feel like he was in pain for a lot longer than I knew. And I just didn't like because he's a dog. I mean I just didn't think that it would impact me the way that it the way that it did and then like coming home and you know bear was my eyes and ears when I was asleep.

You know I live by myself most of the time so he he always barked if there was anything even a shadow and I sometimes as frustrating as it would be like if the baby was sleeping or something. It would he protected us you know so it's it's been really weird and the last night before we put him down I knew that we were putting him down the next day at 12 o'clock so I let him sleep in my bed which I don't ever do. And I let him sleep in my bed and I didn't sleep the whole night like I pretty much tossed and turned all night and just like knew what was coming and. But we you know here we are a week almost a week later and I try to sound so matter of fact about it because it's it is what it is at this point but I mean it's that I didn't think I would. I don't know I guess I didn't know what to expect because I've never gone through this before so it's been hard but. You know and I think it's hard to because he's been through so much with you like since Isaac's been a baby so yeah I think. You know like you look back on all of your memories and he's a part of like all of your memory so it really is like. But you know what part of your life that's not there it's so crazy though because we moved into the house about a month ago.

And right before we moved into this house I had bought bear all new stuff beer and gizmo I bought them both all new stuff new leashes new dog bowls new crates new beds new everything. And so and it was so weird because when I was putting Chris helped me put the crate together and they come with like the big ones for the big big dogs they come with a divider so like. When you're great training your puppies they you know you change the divider as you go and I I don't know why but I told Chris I said don't throw the divider away. And put it in the box and keep the box I don't know why I said that and I always said you know when bear goes I'm not getting another dog I'm not doing it because. You know it's just it's a lot and I and I don't think that I could attach myself to another animal the way I did to bear but something told me. To keep the divider keep the box keep everything and it was all it's almost like. The universe was like preparing you yes like preparing me like okay you say you're not going to get another dog but eventually you will and this is like bears breaking in all the new stuff. To then patch past the torch you know what I mean so that when I get another one you know everything's pretty it's a little bit it's like broken in just enough you know so.

I don't know what I feel I feel like that's that's what I needed. I didn't sleep the night that you went to the vet because I kept like waking up like sporadically like texting you I felt like I was like some type of like. Psycho in the night you know like I was like fall asleep and then I would catch myself falling asleep and I would wake up and I would be like text Kail like it's everything fine like what's going on. But I'm proud of you it's that's a hard thing to go through and I haven't been so I can't speak on it but I'm sure there's a lot of people that are listening who have been through it. And probably share similar experiences with you and I'm proud that you let your kids be involved because. I'm so weird we talked about it on the podcast with Brittany that I'm really weird about death and like permanent things in life and yeah. I don't do funerals myself and. I just I don't do death well so I always.

Yeah and I think it is a very weird thing to talk about and I feel like unless you. Are directly affected by it like how do you even open that converse like how do you even open the doors for that conversation so I felt like. And I was getting different opinions from people like some people were like you know tell the dog they tell them that the dog's going to heaven and then another friend was like. You know be open and honest with with them you know they're whether some people believe in heaven some people don't. But I wanted to be as honest as I could and in what I believe and I know that maybe my kids dads don't believe the same thing but I explained it to them from my point of view and I asked them did they have any questions. And they kind of said no like they knew you know I basically said that they're going to they're going to make this this shot and when you. Are in pain and suffering when the dog is in pain and suffering or any animal you know they they inject them and it kind of just. It puts them out and they die and then they become part of the universe and that's and that's what it is and they don't come back after that you know but we have the memories and.

They didn't have any questions like they didn't ask me anything and I was like almost like. Do they not care or is it they understand or I didn't really know but I didn't want to press it because if they're not asking questions I didn't want to you know what I mean. Well I think you have to kind of like take it in stride and like when they ask questions right when the questions come that's when you answer them. But obviously like that's a very hard thing to go through and I know we talked about Della being sick on the podcast before but it was nothing like life threatening but honestly like in my head I went through. The state of how would I explain this like if something goes like south really fast like how how do you explain explain it so I'm so glad that. You were able to share and I don't want you to cry the whole podcast so we can. No I'm good I'm good I just really quickly to touch on that I. The one thing that I was afraid that they were going to ask me is do they do this to people.

Right. So that was something that I was like okay I was hoping they didn't ask because I didn't have to explain it the right way I'd have to explain it like literally but anyway moving on. We don't have to be sad the whole podcast and there's a ton of like good stuff and other stuff that you're going through that we should talk about and. But that was my experience with Bear and stuff like that. Well we're praying for you. Thank you people who pray. I'm sure they are praying because I saw a lot of people like sending messages and. Comments and stuff so.

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So tell me about the VMAs. We didn't have outfits we waited until last minute and when we were there we missed Missy Elliott's performance and we had strep throat so as far as I'm concerned I had no business being there. Absolutely not. No I shouldn't have even shown up to be perfectly honest with you like. I saw that you like posted something about how. We wore bras. Yeah or like how you had like a fashion mishap or like something I forget like the way that you like put it. We did we definitely.

But like what happened like was it like one of those moments where you were like we look really cute like in the moment and then you looked at yourself in professional photos and you're like what the fuck was I doing. Like it would have been good if we were going to a club or something and the pictures made me look like I had a grandma heel on like the one inch heel you know. And they were like really they were really like four inches or five inches so I was like wow this is. Not good I call those chodes I'm like I can't wear them. They looked like grandma ones and I was like that is terrible honestly though it was. If Leah and I can look at ourselves and laugh like people were comparing me to that. Who is the girl that played in a Cinderella story the mom the step mom. Put me in a side by side with her and I was like wow she could literally be my mom and I was just like my God you know what we were going to we are going to redeem redeem ourselves so much for the next award show so I am.

Not worried and honestly it was just like a joke like here we are we have strep throat we showed up to the VMAs and bras like fuck it what else can go wrong like I don't even. For everybody listening kill like when she was in Atlanta last time she was like want to go to the VMAs and I'm thinking to myself like I'm the type of person that I have to have like the perfect outfit like I would have to have like tailoring and like everything like. You know done right kill is type person that doesn't know what the fuck she's wearing until like three minutes before she shows up correct and so that's terrifying to me and it's also terrifying to me that I could possibly be. Put on some type of like in some type of magazine of like worse stress like that was me. That's mortifying to me so absolutely not to be perfectly honest I'm glad it was you and Leah because y'all can take that in stride and I can't so. Yeah it was pretty bad but at least we were comfortable while we were sick you know. A hundred percent so then should we tell everybody about how I almost called 911 to your house. Yeah I think we should because that was a shit show also this is all one by the way this is literally all in one week.

Yeah this is like between a six and seven day like time period you guys this isn't like just things that have happened in life. No collectively over like the past couple of months this is literally within like six days so. I was texting Kale and normally like I know her patterns and I know like when she's going to text back or she's like asleep or whatever so. I've text her like a million things and she hasn't responded and I'm like OK. Some things not right and then I tagged her in something on Instagram and that bitch is always checking Instagram so I'm like. She hasn't seen it yet so like obviously she hasn't been on Instagram or else she would have looked. Yeah and then I go on Twitter and like no I haven't tweeted anything stupid so I'm like. Like where is she so then at this point like normally I would not contact Kale's assistant to like aggravate her with something unless it was like super serious.

So at this point like I'm at an appointment it's like around 1130. I was about to say I'm late because I get up early. Yeah. And I'm like she's not still sleeping like she's dead. Yeah. No I basically was. I text your assistant Kristen and I'm like Kristen something's wrong like where is Kale. All of a sudden Kristen text me back like on speed and she's like 20 minutes from her house going as fast as I can.

And I'm like I knew something was wrong. I was like that's it. I'm calling 911 and she was like let me call her and like see if she answers the phone. So then Kristen text me back and she's like I told Kale that you've literally she's literally freaked you the fuck out and she says that like she can't see and she has like pain down her spine. And I start like acting like I'm a physician at this point and I'm like. Oh my God. She has. Manning.

Strip in her spine. And like she's she's dying. Does it go in your spine. I don't know like I've made this up like I literally thought you were dying. No I was Lindy I was in so much fucking pain. I was in so much pain all night long I have this it literally I had every single fucking symptom of meningitis and I knew that I had had mono pretty recently like in the last couple months and then also I had strep. And then I have this like migraine that literally when I tell you like I'm not exaggerating I know I can be dramatic I know but this time. Like Chris had come and he had taken the kids and he took them to his aunt's house and it was so bad that I truly was like they're swelling in my brain there's something wrong like.

There was so much pain and I couldn't I like couldn't hear sounds and he sounds made me like literally just like want to cringe and I just wanted to cry and it was so so bad and then I started feeling it all down my spine and into my lower back. And I was like I have meningitis like I for sure do so Kristen actually showed up here and came and she has a key to my house so she came in and she's like kale. And I'm still in bed at like 1 30 in the afternoon like I could not get out of bed it was so bad she took me to the hospital and everything. No I was like Kristen speed up as fast as you can I don't get you to go 100 shit if you're 20 minutes away you're about to be three minutes away speed up and also. If I had nine one dialed on my phone so I was just about to click the other one and call and be like we need a wellness check on this person at such and such address because she has not looked at her Instagram or her Twitter. Could you imagine like what would I have said they would be like they would be like we cannot do like you're abusing this line for an Instagram wellness check. Yeah like I was so concerned and then finally when Chris and text me back and was like they're you know doing these tests and then Chris and I are texting back and forth about like how they might possibly do a spinal tap on you but we weren't going to tell you and like. Oh my God she told me that and when she told me that I was like I'll refuse I will refuse the spinal tap.

No we were like Kristen was like but I'm not going to tell her and I was like yeah good idea like don't tell her like I felt like such a bad person like coming up with all of these things like behind your back and like. Diagnosing you know but I went down the rabbit hole to like I the first thing everyone said was meningitis so I was like oh my God. So I'm down this rabbit hole on Google like WebMD and I'm like self your yes like I am self diagnosing myself and here they are telling me that this is just. Possibly a migraine and I'm like okay first of all and if this is a migraine and people get these regularly. I don't know how people are functioning and doing life when I literally didn't get out of bed for over 24 hours and I could not function like my kids. I had to give Lux a bath the night before and I was giving him a bath and the hearing the water running I literally wanted to die. First of all I will tell you I felt remember how we were texting yesterday and you were like I don't want to go to the ER and these people think that I'm coming here for a headache. Yes that's exactly what I thought that's exactly what I said to them.

Imagine how many things you can do in the time that it takes to go to the grocery store and like sit in the parking lot and like actually mentally prepare yourself to go in the store because that's me every time I have to go to. An actual store but anyway what would you do with all that time so as a mom I love taking as much time as I can with my kids so every minute counts and I'm probably late to everything so that's why we love Instacart. I use Instacart now because it's just like the grocery store is so busy they never have enough people on the register it adds time to something that you think is going to take 20 minutes. So it's just like super convenient to go online get all your stuff and have it delivered right to your house. And I always feel like when you do use Instacart I'm more prepared for some reason so like my list. I get exactly the things that I need for like the recipes and I'm making for the week instead of going to the grocery store and like throwing stuff in the car that we absolutely don't need. So like forgetting stuff because you're distracted. Yeah so I mean I just I love it so with Instacart your groceries can be delivered in as fast as one hour.

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It never stopped and they just plowed in the back of us so my Chick-fil-A Coke went fucking everywhere like all over me. I mean it was it was a disaster like my Louis Vuitton was ruined it had like Chick-fil-A Coke all over it. It was literally a disaster so basically like I go to the chiropractor they tell me my back is all twisted up and so I start getting these adjustments and then I start getting these what I thought were migraines which I think they were migraines. But I wouldn't be able to see and like I wouldn't want to tell anybody because I felt like a psycho like I thought I was making it up. Or they won't take you seriously. Yeah so like I wouldn't even tell Will and so I would be looking like probably all cross-eyed like not being able to see but trying to like still do life you know. So I finally one night was just like this is it like I'm dying and so I went to the ER and I told him like what was going on immediately when I told him that I had been seeing a chiropractor they start doing CT scans they start doing like all this stuff. So wait why well I've never been I've never been to a chiropractor so I don't know.

I think because like medical doctors like don't think like chiropractic is like medical or something like that. So they say like don't do it but I love going to chiropractor and be honest. So anyway they start doing all these scans and then come back in and you know it's like the worst ever when they come back in and they give you like a referral to a specialist like yeah. That's the worst so they come back in and give me a referral to a neurologist. They did the same thing to me they gave me toroidal composing benadryl and then sent me they gave me a referral to a neurologist and I'm just like I. First of all I was already skeptical that anyone was like around me would believe me but luckily Chris believed me like this he truly did and he was trying to get me to go to the ER all night. But I don't I just don't think that they would have done anything like and they didn't they gave me three drugs that I don't even know what they do. I had to look them up and they're not even for migraines like they're like for other things that I guess also can like help with a migraine so I'm like.

I'm not going to a neurologist like I'm not doing that I want to know what is the cause why did this happen to me and is it going to happen again. Well I guess the neurologist would tell me that. Yeah so I was literally so freaked out whenever they came back in and were like they basically just. Tell you that they're kind of like done with you and like you have to go to like this specialist and then did anything come up on your scan. Yeah so for anybody who has ever been to the ER for something like this. Make sure you send us a message if you've ever been through this because literally when they send you to a specialist or that's the recommendation. They pretty much like don't do anything else so it's like that's where like their service basically stops and so then you have to. This was like over a weekend for me so I had to sit on this for a weekend and then call the specialist and it was like two weeks before I could get into a specialist.

They actually had ordered an MRI for me so then I had to go and have an MRI which is really scary. And then the MRI place sent the results to the specialist and I had to go for the specialist to read it and so I forget what it was called. But whenever I was born unless you have had an MRI like you wouldn't know that you had this but sometimes like when you're developing. Spinal fluid can like get on your brain and at the very bottom of my brain there is like a little bit of spinal fluid so I don't know if that could have been affected like when I was having these adjustments. Or not and the neurologist said that they really don't know like it's not like life threatening it's not something like it's something I've lived with for my whole life like literally since I was developing like. I've always had it so it was nothing new. But it was kind of scary to know that like I'd had something that was like a little abnormal. Right.

No one to expect right. Yeah. But I would be I think you definitely should go to the neurologist. Okay well I mean I definitely will I think I threw out the referral but I'll definitely call back lovely. Of course you did. I can I can just call back and just ask say you know can I have it but I just I don't I still have the spine pain like even right now as I'm speaking I don't know where the back pain is coming from. Yeah that's like freakish but I will tell you. You do live like a very crazy life so I think that maybe like.

I'm not going to try to act like I know how to diagnose something but. You know I was saying yesterday like we had a chill day like took Jackson the sky zone literally had dinner a bath and was watching TV by like. 530 in the afternoon so like that's more like borderline grandma so I think if you. Like tried to scale back a little bit like did a little bit less stuff and the amount of time that you do things in then. You might like feel better because I sometimes feel like you can bring sickness on. Yeah. Because you get like overwhelmed but that's just honestly a personal opinion and I don't know if there's like really any truth. No I do.

I agree because you know it's really weird and maybe it's just a coincidence but also maybe not. Any time I'm not a person that functions well off a little sleep but lately I've noticed like I've had strep throat three times in the past six months and. Every single time it's after a long weekend of no sleep. Yeah I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but it's like running myself so thin or like just not you know what I mean and then I get sick whether it's. It could be anything like even now I feel like I'm like stuffy my post nasal drip ill and I haven't been sleeping so it's like I don't know. I'm not sure but the back pains a little weird I don't know never really had like severe back pain. Okay so Lindsay you know what I love using lately. What.

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So noom is a habit changing solution that helps users learn to develop a new relationship with food through personalized courses. So that's why it's different from everything else that you've tried to use in order to kind of keep track of your weight or like stay on track or any of that kind of stuff. So they say it's based on a cognitive behavioral approach and I think it works. So you guys don't have to change all your habits in one day you can make small steps to make big progress. And in order to do this you have to sign up for your trial at noom which is noom.com slash coffee. What do you have to lose visit noom.com slash coffee to start your trial today that's noom.com slash coffee the last weight loss program you'll ever need. And we have just been on the struggle bus for like the past at least two and a half weeks kill probably for like the past 20 something years but I've been a bit on the struggle bus like I boarded it two and a half weeks ago and I haven't gotten off yet. And I don't honestly I don't even know how you're holding up because I feel like you got hit so hard with so many things and so publicly honestly.

You want to talk about it like what it's up to you. I'm here for you. I'm not pressuring you to talk about anything you don't want to but let it be known that I truly don't know how you're still doing it. Ask me whatever you want and if I can't answer it then I can't but if I can then then I will because I want to be honest. Okay. I mean we're gonna start. I mean I guess as all of us know we've seen the media and we saw that your parents were getting indicted for 12 or so counts of tax evasion criminal activity I don't even know. Yes.

So like two and a half weeks ago that all went down and before I even get started, I just want to say thank you to every person that has sent me a message whether it be good or bad because I'm not the type of person and I've talked to you about this before like I don't really block people. All opinions are welcome. If you want to try to hurt my feelings. That's fine. I'll probably read it feel a bit indifferent and then move on about my life. I get it like there's more than just like one person's opinion and it's always not you know the same opinion that I share so I'm okay with that. I've received mean messages I've received nice messages and that was you know expected. I will say that as far as my parents legal things I'm not really going to get into that other than the fact that it had been reported through my biological brother Kyle that I had something to do with it and without going into bashing any specific individuals. I know what I've done and what I haven't done and I have no problem owning things that I have or haven't done. However, I will not own something that I didn't do for the sake of media to take the heat to do you know like whatever the agenda was like I'm not going to take on responsibility that doesn't belong to me.

You shouldn't have to. I had nothing to do with my parents federal indictment to be perfectly honest the years that were covered in the indictment. But most of those years I was not in communication with my parents so a lot of the years from like early on that they covered. I was in college so I wasn't even like living at home. And through college I don't know if I've shared you know my whole story or not but through college I didn't talk to my parents so I definitely like would have had no knowledge of anything. And then in the later years that were covered. I believe that I was like already leaving the show so I also wouldn't have had any knowledge of like some of that stuff either. So I just find it a little ironic that there is some blame game things going on. And I just really had no involvement in that but then after that whole whirlwind came out and literally my TVs had to be off in my house for they're still off because I'm terrified of like what's going to be put on there next. We have little eyes and ears around here you know so you can't be having things lasted that he could potentially like he's he's smart you know so he will pick up on those things right. So immediately I realized that this was going to be a media circus so I contact my attorney and ask if it's okay if I put his email on my Instagram because I didn't want to be answering any of these questions especially like questions for things that I didn't have anything to do with so

then he gets a call or email or something like that from TMZ stating that they had obtained a police report from my county and would I like to make a comment on it. So he calls me and tells me that I need to come into the office because you know this is the information that he's received. So I go to his office and realize that the next whatever foreseeable future is going to be held because you know this police report is out there and then the next thing I know my dad's out making statements that I had had extramural affairs with two people and then actually gives names of people. So just to cover up to that point. I have been on the receiving end of all of this and for any person that is. I have tons of people that are supporting me over all platforms but you do get some bad messages and those staying a little bit more than the good ones you get a million good ones and then like one bad one. But for people to expect that I'm not going to stand up for myself that I'm not going to speak my truth that I'm not going to come with the facts. I don't really know what to say because I'm not just going to allow somebody to go out there and do that and then not respond does that make sense. Yeah no absolutely. I think I don't even know why that would be a logical fall. Okay guys so let me tell you about this great new bra I found from third love third love makes amazing perfect fitting bras designed with breast size and shape in mind.

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I'm not really sure how to put it and so they feel like they're entitled to give an opinion where they don't necessarily need to or that it concerns them. I'm not really sure how anyone whether they love your family and the show or not. I don't know how they can look at the situation and send you a bad message. Because at the end of the day which I you know I stand behind you 110%. Even if it was you that did it which I know is not that turn them in it's like they're the ones that committed the action the first place. So how would I don't understand that mentality or for example for the extramarital affairs like. I mean did they look into every little detail of your marriage and decide that you weren't separated or that you actually did these things like they don't even know if there's actual do you know what I'm saying like the whole situation is so crazy to me. Well, it is very crazy because you know then you go down the rabbit hole of he's gone out here and made these statements to the media himself quoted and start giving dates. Well that was not the smartest thing to do because if anybody knows me.

You know that I keep records. Yep, I know that's a fact. I got the receipts and I'm going to pull them out if I have to so I started pulling out receipts last week on Twitter. Of tweets that had happened in 2017 which is kind of like where it all started and when when I had left the show. And you know to be perfectly honest to make it short. I just really don't appreciate it. I don't think that the statements that were made were in good taste. And people have to understand like what led me to this point. I also was sent screenshots of comments and photos from Chase's Instagram page where he had intentionally cropped me out of photos and then the caption was like family or you know something like that. Which is good and great like that's fine if that's how you feel but also be mature enough to realize that since I left the show I have not gone and aired any dirty laundry at all and you very well could have you could have. You could have literally put anybody on blast and you never did so like the vague tweets the taunting tweets the low blows of cropping you out of family photos like childish.

And it really speaks more about them. It. Unfortunately it does speak volumes about character. And you know then I was sent a screenshot of a comment that was made under the photo that I was cropped out of that stated that he only had one sister. And that was Savannah so you know obviously people were going on there and there was very mixed reviews you know there was some people on there saying like. You're bad or like you know you're a bad person or you know like whatever it was and there was like some good ones on there. And then the next thing you know the comments are muted because Kail and I were going to go and put our two cents on there and. Definitely tried.

The comments were muted. And then the next thing I know after I have been bashed in the media and been on the defense of things giving accurate statements of what actually was you know going on in my truth. I wouldn't even say my truth I will say the truth because the facts back up the truth. And then for Chase to go to People Magazine and to say that he loves his sister and he doesn't understand why he's doing that. At that point my attorney then brings out the comments that he has receipts of that he had just previously made on Instagram days before that that he only had one sister so it's like you know what pick a side and stay on it. He doesn't have one brother then he only has Grayson he doesn't have Kyle's not his brother than either because he wasn't in the family photo. Well so then that leads me to my next thing so then there was a photo posted of Kyle in a hospital bed on Instagram and I had gone on Twitter and probably in bad taste. Put something about how they were using it for sympathy because that's truly how I felt and I will stand by that like I do feel that way so I mean looking at the picture that's how I felt and I don't even know them so I mean I don't know.

And you know people can say well Kale's only saying that because you know her Lindsay run a podcast together but if anybody listens to this podcast you know that we disagree all the time 99% of the time so is it really that much. I mean basically we disagree on like everything like 97 I'll give it 97 97 fine. But then the next thing I know he news is running a cryptic tweet that I had posted like saying that he was flexing a sympathy card. And then you're getting like all these comments of people saying you know like family this family that but like let's not forget what's been done to me in the media and what has literally wrecked my life for the past two and a half weeks. And I will gladly say that all of the people that were involved. My family camp have stood by me. My husband is stood by me because we know what the truth is and we don't have secrets so unfortunately for them but fortunately for me because I live an honest life. We have been able to, I won't say seamlessly, but we have been able to move on and get past the fuckery. And it doesn't take away the fact of the actual issue at hand, which is the legal issues and those are none of my business so I'm not going to speak on those.

Right. But they that's what they need to be focused on and not merging into my lane. Well, I mean just to your point I think that it was very distasteful. Some of the things it was almost like we're in trouble so let's throw this and this and this and this at Lindsay and then take the heat off of us but at the end of the day the legal troubles are still there. So maybe you don't do that because at the end of the day you're going to be still facing jail time so now you've just created a very pissed off person and I'm not going to say like I'm their enemy or you know like whatever they want to make it out to be to like make it look a type of way. I have nothing to do with your life and they have nothing to do with my life. I haven't seen my dad since 2017 so it's literally like two different lives and we share the same last name and I'm also going to touch on that because the people that have gone on the defense for them are saying well if you're you know ashamed of them

or if you're this or you're that then change your last name. First of all people one thing clear. Yeah, let's make one thing clear. We all went in this together so nobody it wasn't like my dad was like this a list celebrity and then all of a sudden like we came out of the woodwork and we are benefiting off of this last name. That wasn't the scenario at all in fact it took all of us to collectively sign the contract to start the reality show so that was my born name and I plan to keep it and if you don't like it. Too bad. Too fucking bad. I mean that goes for anybody whether I mean that's like. Oh well you don't if someone were to come up to me and say well you never you only met your dad one time and you don't fuck with him so you should change your last name it's like fuck off this is what I was born with and this is what I'm keeping so mind your business. Well and people say oh well because you know you're married or because you're this or because you're that part of me it's a pride thing because I feel like I have been Lindsay Chrisley like my whole life. And yes I am Lindsay Campbell married I'm Lindsay Chrisley Campbell.

But if I have successes I don't know like what it is but it's it's like Lindsay Chrisley is me and I am her right and my successes should be associated with that and like my failures should be associated with that. I definitely get what you're saying I mean I. I went through a period where I wanted to change my last name but at that point I had already been on the show and I was like I'm already Cale Lowry like people already know me as Cale Lowry this is who I've been my whole life so I guess it doesn't really make sense for me to turn around and change my last name like this is who I am this is my brand this is. Me outside of my family troubles and my family bullshit you know what I mean so I get it I get what you're saying. So those were just like a few things that I just wanted to clarify and obviously I'll be able to talk more at a later date but right now with the way that things are and if you're reading. You'll realize why I can't go into details about certain things. I just want to encourage you to go over to my Twitter read the facts and then I don't want to sway anybody's opinion like either no but you're if you're you know pro whatever you're this or you're indifferent. If you feel however you want to feel that's perfectly fine but just read the facts watch how people operate and I think that you'll be able to see a very clear picture once you do that and I agree.

A lot of people had you know I did I did that question thing like before we record it because we were supposed to record and then I got sick and then I forget something else came up but who the hell gets like the flu in August like I don't know. I mean I mean me is her whatever but yeah it's literally been the month from hell but the second most commonly asked question from my you know family BS was about the hobby and learn drama and I don't know like what you can share because obviously like I've had to be a little. Tight lipped about certain things to so whatever you can share that's what people want to know this the tea is hot on this episode of coffee combos because I completely forgot about that bullshit until you just brought it up. The amount of shit we've talked on this whole podcast today has been unreal. You know what. I know pretty much the entire situation from start to finish because I was called to the scene of the crime and then I was later blamed as the problem. So I'm not going to get into all of the details. However I will say that that was not a mess that I was planning to clean up. It wasn't my mess. It didn't involve me but somehow I got involved in it and. You know who I just there's so many things I could say and there's a lot of directions I can go here. I think. No. I don't even know where to go with this. I saw the apology that hobby wrote on Instagram and I had actually encouraged him prior to that to make a statement because somebody leaked the story.

It was not me. I didn't do it and I actually was very upset that I was blamed for it because the night that everything happened. I was called eight times in the middle of the night. So I'm thinking somebody died and that was really upsetting. I couldn't sleep. I didn't know what to do. And then I was later blamed for it but it's like you. You can't do that. And then we enough to like call eight times right in the middle of the night but then also it's like there's a fine line like there we also can't be doing that like I'm like a cop called me also so it was like a cop and then hobby to but it was like. We can't blur those lines like those lines cannot be blurred your we are both doing our own thing and I don't want to upset anyone you're in a relationship with I don't want to upset anyone I'm in a relationship with so like that was like if no one died like you can't do that. I understand there was like liquor involved and like other things but I was very upset because I was blamed for the leak and then you know I just I didn't want any parts of it but I feel like everyone was tagging me in hobbies apology and. You know I don't really I don't have much to say about it I feel like we all make decisions whether they're good or bad and we all have to either reap the benefits or we have to deal with the consequences and I feel like.

Hopefully this was a learning curve for everybody I hope this was a mistake that he made that he will learn from moving forward. But I don't I don't want to say too many details because it's not my place anymore but I do hope that my son Lincoln and I do even though I don't really know Eli I hope that they are still getting both of. I don't want to say both of their parents because I'm Lincoln's only mom but I hope that the kids are taking care of and nothing is truly affecting them other than you know they're trying to co parent or getting back together I don't know. So long story short I have nothing to say I'm I never want to be involved in a mess like that again and that's all. Well what do you even say to that what people were tagging me in it and it was like what are you tagging me for. Well and then I was getting messages about it as if like I don't have enough like BS going on. Honestly then I start getting these messages I literally thought I was just going to like try to go down the freeway as fast as I could and fling my phone out. Yeah like I really thought that because I was like nothing else can happen like nothing else can freaking happen because there's so much shit going on and I swear like it is so true the saying when it rains it pours.

Oh I tweeted that the other day it was literally between you and your family stuff going on the hobby drama I was bombarded with I guess and then all this shit last week I was like literally I don't think that I've seen a worse two and a half weeks like I truly haven't. I think it's going to go down in history of my life. It's really crazy though because I will say that there have been other less crazy things that have happened that have really put me in a dark place but for whatever reason and I don't know what it is these last two and a half weeks I have not been consumed by them I guess. Like I do see the light at the end of the tunnel like I do see it and I know that things are going to get better and that's very like different for me and I hope that it's the same for you like I hope that you're seeing like things are going to get better. Well I think a lot of people to have. Message me because I haven't like posted anything on Instagram you know and so people are like wondering like what's going on it's like obviously intentional that I'm not posting like I'm trying to really like. Take care of me and take care of like my house and what's going on like inside my four walls and I can happily say that. We're all on the same page and that's a good place to be.

I feel like that. I'm sad that the situation is what the situation is because no matter what it's family you know and so that's unfortunate but I have had to learn that. If something's toxic you have to remove it out of your life as hard as that may be and it's not a revolving door and it's not an open invitation and. A lot of people that have toxic family relationships have sent in messages you know saying. You know this is giving me strength or this is you know open my eyes or you know whatever it may be and I hope that somebody. Even if it's one person that gets some type of benefit from the struggle that I'm currently going through. Then it was 100% worth it. But one thing that I will stand by is don't ever go out here and lie on me and I will not feel obligated to tell the truth about you.

Honestly though that is the true statement. Yeah no and to your point I just think like because obviously I don't talk to my family either a message that I get all the time is like oh you should give them another chance. Oh that's your mom. Oh that's your dad. Oh that's your so and so and it's like toxic is toxic is toxic so it doesn't matter who it is in your life. If they are toxic you remove them. So just to add to what you were saying I mean yeah I mean and don't lie on somebody who has the truth about you because honestly at the end of the day like that's going to come out. Oh the truth always comes out. The truth always comes out. Even on accident and I stand by that even if it's on accident and it comes out another way that doesn't involve you it will come out.

Like what is done in the dark always comes to light. So I just didn't think that legal issues and then things that happened through my separation went hand in hand and maybe I'm wrong. You know like I just I felt like those were two totally different things on two totally opposite ends of the spectrum that should have never merged. But you know that's my opinion and people are free to you know have other opinions about it. But wow like I can't believe it's already been an hour. I know that so we had so much to talk about and I'm sure we'll have so much more next week. I know people are going to be so upset that this isn't earlier. I know wanted it like this.

People wanted it this week. So I'm sorry that we were sick and all life was happening at once. But well y'all life happened and I'm glad that y'all can be a part of it and some of you might not be happy to be a part of it. Because I feel very stressed being a part of it. But the stress is residing and I feel like I'm starting to feel a little bit better. So I think that's all we have time for this week. So if you guys have not subscribed to us you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on your iPhone. Type in coffee combos, click subscribe, click the fifth star and leave us a written review.

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