Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - A Chaotic GRWM NYC Edition

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Hello, good morning. Good morning. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Convo's podcast. I have so much to say right now, right in this moment. What do you have to say? One, so glad you're here. Same. Two, while we're getting ready, I was reminded of the time that someone came to do my hair

and makeup and she used to talk to my ex and she was literally playing in my face like figuratively and literally playing in my fucking face while talking to my ex. But did you know like when it was going on or after? After the fact. Like I knew I found out after the fact. So like you came up, I think I saw it on his phone or something like that. Or he, he told me because it was during that time where I was like getting back together and not getting back together, like that whole thing.

And so I was like this bitch. Wait a minute. So you imagine like you're just sitting there getting your makeup done to get like, who knows what kind of the things that Kristen hears, the things that Stevie hears like are not for everybody. You know what I mean? So like you literally played in my face and we're probably listening to me talk about the most unhinged shit. And you were talking to my ex.

Do you feel like she did the makeup because she was talking to your ex? No, that's what Kristen said. Not Kristen, our regular Kristen, makeup Kristen. Was the makeup job a bad job? I think it was hair. I want to say her name so bad, but I'm not going to. I think it was hair, and she did a good job. But like, the audacity.

Like, you are foul. If someone did that to me and I found out after the fact. Oh no ma'am. No, that would not go well. No, it wouldn't go well. I think the last time I saw you was also in New York City. Right?

No. Yeah, you didn't see me the last time in New York City. When we got our cats waxed. Oh wait. No. When was the last time Kale saw me? The last time Kale saw you was in LA at the end of last year. Oh, you're right.

You're right. That was a wild... Alessandra and I went to LA for like literally 20 hours. Was I there for 20 hours too? I don't know how long you were there, but it was rough. That was a rough 20 hours. I felt like I was road hard and put up with it. I can't be out of the state for 24 hours, so we've got to be making these trips real

quick. Really, really quick. Okay, so what are we doing for this episode? You guys wanted a chaotic get ready with me. This is a chaotic get ready with me by yours truly. So we pulled some listener questions. Also some unpopular opinions. Okay.

So we're going to kind of interchange them. So we'll start easy. This one's for Kale. Which child is most like you and why? They're all like me. They all have my personality and they're all amazing. But for real. No, I don't know which one's most likely. I don't know. I think it's Isaac. Yeah. That's what you said before. Isaac goes by Elliot now. He wants to separate himself from Teen Mom

but I'll let him tell his story. Okay. So Elliot. Elliot is most like me. You know what though? My kids all have confidence that I didn't have as a child. It's because you've built it. But I built it later in life.

And so now I'm able to show them. But I did not have that confidence growing up. Remember you said you were such a quiet child. I was quiet, insecure, weak. I was a lot like very unremarkable. And your kids just say whatever they want to say with their whole chest. Okay. Next question. Pierce your clit or get a face tattoo.

It's for both of you. You have to choose one. Yes, face tattoo. Who is that Madison? The way I don't think that my partner in any lifetime would appreciate tasting pennies when he goes down on me. Is that what it would taste like? When I had my nipple rings, it was like, I saw this GIF and it was like,

when a girl has her nipples pierced, it always tastes like coming home. Oh, yeah. Because it tastes like keys. Like the metal tastes like keys. I know, I know, my nipples pierced, they don't taste like keys. Wait, Alessandra, you have your nipples pierced?

Yeah. Right now? Yeah. The gang's all here. I mean, I'm going to get a little, a little, I don't know, like a spider. Well, no teardrops here. She doesn't qualify for a teardrop. I think you have to kill someone for that. Okay. Okay. You'll get addicted. I'll definitely get addicted. I'm going to go with unfortunately face tat. I mean, it's like your clit or face tat. Yes. I would just be so worried it would pull out. But can we go back to the nipple thing? Because

I don't understand. Like, what's the picture of me with my nipple rings? Yeah, Kristen, pull it up. What's the thrill though? It looks pretty. I love it. You feel like it's like an elegant look. I love it. Yes. I think it's. She said it's very elegant.

It's so elegant. It's so pretty. Very demure. Love it so much. Like I love when it shows through your shirt. I think it's so like, I hate the word sexy. It feels so weird, but I think it's sexy. Okay.

Love it so much. Would you date somebody with nipple rings? No, a woman, yes. A man, no. I don't think it's attractive on men. I don't give a fuck about what men have on their nipples. It kind of looks like a bowl though. No, not with the bars.

Just like a straight bar? Yeah. But if it's rounded, then it looks like a bowl. Yeah, I don't think the rounded hoop. Doesn't do justice. Okay. Okay. Perfect. I just sent the picture. Oh perfect. Okay. Love that. It was actually while I was getting them pierced. Oh this is the photo? Oh wow Kale. You're welcome. Wait but that does look like a bull. Yeah because I had just gotten the pierced and that piercer used round jewelry for piercings, which is actually not great for nipples.

Did that hurt? Yeah, it was awful. It was like the worst thing you've ever experienced. 1000% worse than childbirth. So bad. Would you agree, Alessandra? No. Oh, but I haven't given birth.

True. I mean, I would never. I absolutely would never. I don't want anybody coming near me with a piercing gun at all. It's a needle Do you do you like the nipple play? Yeah, it heightens the sensation So in what way it makes it more sensitive Oh Mine are already super sensitive. That's the same reason people get their click tears

Oh, mine are already super sensitive. That's the same reason people get their clit pierced. Because it's not sensitive enough? Well, it's just extra sensitive. I mean, I don't want my clit to be any more sensitive than what it is. I don't think I would do that. I just get like when you're like playing DJ, like, would it rip out? Like that? You said playing DJ.

You know how men are? They're like, they're just not getting it right. You know what I mean? So they're basically playing DJ. I mean, if, if you're down there like doing this for too long and the friction starts going, it's like who is coming at you with a whole hand on your clit. I feel like men are just, well, don't know what they're doing. I can get myself off in 90 seconds. And I'm not paying 90 seconds. Yeah. Max. Max. Like, literally, it's like you do the two finger rule. Yeah. Yeah. But these two fingers knew it knew it. Okay, moving on. Okay, we're

gonna do an unpopular opinion. Okay. self care culture has become selfish. No, no, I don't agree. I think actually, we don't do enough self care. Like, Kristen literally asked me this morning, Kristen Gallo, not Kristen Hook, said, What do you do to wind down? And I said, read books. I'm sorry, that's not even enough. I should be doing more than reading books is self care. Do you know it's like entertainment and like it's like funsies, you know, so like, necessarily, but like, I don't

do it. It's I don't I donsies, you know? So like- Probably necessary, but like I don't do it. It's, I don't think self care is selfish. Are we talking like facials, massages, blowouts? I don't think anyone's doing that. Getting facials and massages, I do. Really? How often? Yeah. I don't do that.

I mean, I get facials probably once every three months. Would you say, Kristen? Yes. Yeah. I do a hydrofacial like once every three months, would you say, Kristen? Yes. Yeah. I do a hydrofacial like once every three months. I love that. And the dermaplaning.

I do that probably once every seven or eight weeks. But is that self-care or is that? Yeah, I think that would be, it would fall under self-care. I don't know that that's like something that you're gonna do to like relax and recharge But it is self-care in a way. It's not like recharging self-care, but it's self-care I like self-care also that doesn't cost any money, which is sleeping Yeah, like that cost me nothing to mind my own business and stay in my fucking bed. I Would love to sleep more. I sleep a lot like a lot. I go to bed at sometimes 1030, 10 o'clock, sometimes 830.

And I will sleep all the way in the morning until I have Pilates, which is eight or nine. I'm jealous of you. I only have one child. Oh, it has nothing to do with my children. I guess it does. It does all the sports and shit that they have. And like even on Mother's Day, there was two football games and a soccer game. Yeah. So it's like, there's no sleep

happening. There was no sleeping in. They really fucked the moms on that one. I don't know why they, I was a little, like I was just like, why? And then we have no, we have no games next week. Okay. See that's like, why would you have not just canceled Mother's? Like it was supposed to be about me. It's never about the mom ever. Next question. Next on popular opinion. Social media detoxes are necessary. I would agree.

I've never done one. I don't know what that is. She's never experienced that. You've never done it necessary. No, I don't. I don't. I don't do those. I mean, do you feel like you have to be on social media? Or? Oh, I mean, no, I'm not like

everyone posts for me now at this point. So I don't get on in that way. But I'm not getting off social media. You're never gonna not see me anytime soon. Like I fully did full send on the scroll situation. You know, like slow the scroll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read instead of scrolling for sure. I don't even scroll anymore.

If it's not like the first thing, then I don't see it. Like I hardly ever go on there. Yeah, same. But I'm not gonna not have social media. But do you feel like for the average person that it is the most healthy thing to remove apps on your phone? Remember me telling you about this girl that I knew that removed it one day a week and

like deleted off her phone? That just feels like more work. Well, I mean, you can just re download it. Yeah, but then you have to remember the password and I have 1200 passwords. Oh, that's true. I have 87 passwords. Why does she have half the password and I have 1200 passwords. Oh, that's true. I have 87 passwords. Why does she have half the amount that I have? How do I narrow mine down? She has half the amount of shit that she signs up for that you do. Yeah, like, you know, credit cards

at places. So are you not on class dojo? You know? Oh, I just don't go I accidentally signed up for a credit card. Okay. How does one accident so only do that password didn't have my Sephora account on the sheet. Yeah. So I go to make a new account to be able to buy this perfume that I wanted, right. That's only at Sephora. So I think that I'm signing up for this account. And then it asks for the last four digits of my social and I go, I probably shouldn't do that. I shouldn't have done that. And I already submitted it. And then it like says something about a credit card. So I was like, check my email doesn't say anything about a credit card. So I was like, okay, maybe

I'm in the clear. Like maybe I was worried about nothing. Where was I the other day? I was somewhere and I get an email and it says your card has arrived. So I click on the email and sure as shit, I applied for a fucking Sephora gift card, a Sephora credit card. And I don't shop at Sephora like very often, like literally once a year. You're an ultra girlie. Yeah. Cause I like their point system.

So now I have the Sephora credit card and I'm like, well, I guess I better use it. At what point did, do we think that that kill decided to text me about this? Do we think it was like, whatever? Never. No, no, no, no. I got a panic series of text messages. It was like a string of tests after it arrived, but acted didn't say that acted as it like, I don't want to say that I was led to believe that this had this application had just got put in. Absolutely not. It was like two weeks prior. The card was at the house. But I thought she was like, yeah, I get to use it.

I wasn't trying to be deceptive. I was literally just like, did I sign up for a credit card or not? Do you know what I mean? Like I wasn't sure. So I wasn't going to panic her. So when I got the email, let me pull it up. And I still don't even know where the card is. Like I, it may have gotten delivered.

I don't fucking know because that's gonna be out. That's gonna be Kail's next line of bullshit. I don't know where the card is secretly. Like it's in her wallet and she's using it. Sephora Visa credit card activate your Sephora Visa signature credit card Kail. Your Sephora Visa signature credit card has arrived. When I saw this email, I panicked

because I've been working on my credit really hard. And now this is gonna take my credit, but if I use it, it also takes my credit. And if I don't use it or I close it, it also takes my credit. It doesn't take your credit if you use it properly. I didn't want the fucking card. Correct, which I didn't want the card for you.

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Okay. Would you rather have sex on live stream or have your partner accidentally go in the wrong hole? Accidentally go in the wrong hole. Having sex on a live stream? No, because they are- Seems illegal kind of. Well, they already critique me enough.

I don't need you to critique my sexual. Yeah. Times. You know, I just feel like that's something that should be just for the bedroom and the walls. Yeah. You know? So like if you were offered $35 million

to do a porn on live stream, would you do it? Yeah. 35 million. Game over. If you were offered $35 million to do a porn on live stream, would you do it? Yeah. Game over. $35 million. Game over. Okay. So when I was at this award show last week, there was a billionaire that walked by me

and I was like, how'd you do that? I was just like, like, what could I do? Was it a porn star? No, it was Jerry Jones. Wait, is she getting to the point where he made $35 million? Well, I'm just thinking like, if he asked me to like do something, he was going to give me money. Like what would it take?

You know, like what would you do? How far would you go? For 35 million, I would go very far. Are you doing angle for 35 million? Yes, I absolutely am. I'm doing anal for 35 million? Yes, I absolutely am. I'm doing that for less, way less, like five. I'm doing anal for much much less. I did anal for nothing actually.

I'm tired of giving up stuff for free. Facts, like we're old now. If you want something from me I need to gain financially. I need a payment plan. I agree. She pays or he pays to get like any type of sexual like. Wait in the relationship. So, but that's like, okay, we talked about this a couple months ago. I don't want to negotiate with my partner like blow jobs for money. Like that's not like like oh, I want to go get my nails done

I'll suck your dick to get my nails done. Like that's never occurring in my relationship But like for funsies and I'm like, oh a billionaire wants to give me some money. I'll prostitute myself I'll be a sex worker for that. No see but it within the relationship. No, I mean when I was married if Will would have told me hey, babe Mean when I was married if will would have told me hey, babe Suck my dick and I will let you go off all day and like do self-care pull your pants down Like I'm done Pull your pants down. Mm-hmm

I will negotiate Listen in their 50s and it was her that initiated it. I was like, why am I only doing this for my job? Whatever floats everyone's boat, whatever someone else chooses in their life is, you know, their choice, but for me, I'm not like. That's not coming into your relationship. No. Okay, fair. Next question.

This is an unpopular opinion. Good parenting doesn't always mean gentle parenting. 100% agree. I agree with that. Good parenting does not always mean gentle parenting. 100% agree. I agree with that. Good parenting does not always mean gentle parenting. I would agree with that. I mean, let's define gentle parenting, because I feel like...

Not everyone can gentle parent, and not every child can be gentle parented. I agree. Do you have some kids that you feel like you gentle parent and some that you don't? Yes. How does that change the dynamic in the house? And do you feel like you gentle parent and some that you don't? Yes. How does that change the dynamic in the house? And do you feel like your kids are resentful towards each other

because they see the others being parented different? I definitely think that the kids know who gets parented differently and I think that they probably don't understand it right now, but that's just the nature of the beast. And if that is their trauma, then I would say that, you know, I would have to have a conversation when they're a little bit older to like discuss because different personalities and, and just the ages of the kids and the different, different kids handle things very differently. And so I can't parent, you know, Rio the same way I parented Elliot. I wouldn't say I'm a gentle parent. I would say I'm a natural consequence,. Would you agree, Kristen? I was going to say I have heard you parent and not gentle.

But definitely not a consequence because I've heard that. Yeah, it's like, you know, you go outside and you have been told multiple times, like, do not wear crocs and socks because your socks are going to be ruined and I'm no longer buying any more white socks in this house. You come in and there's mud all over them. Guess what? like do not wear crocs and socks because your socks are going to be ruined and I'm no longer buying any more white socks in this house. You come in and there's mud all over them. Guess what? The consequences now that's going in the trash can and you're never getting another pair

of white socks. Natural consequence. Right? I believe in natural consequence. I agree. I definitely think that natural consequences can apply to everyone but what they take from it or how they handle it is also different. Do you think that you can gentle parent in certain situations, but not all the time?

Yes. Because I do that. Yeah. Like certain situations call for a more gentle response? Yes, 100%. And some situations require me to fly off the fucking handle. I hate that and it's probably my own fault like how we got here but sometimes there are situations where I've asked like three times and nobody is doing what needs to be done

until I'm literally yelling. But my dad always said when I was growing up he was like just because y'all are yelling doesn't mean that somebody hears you louder and I agree with that but sometimes they're not getting their asses up and moving until I'm yelling but sometimes the quieter I get and the more silent after I've said something the more it resonates yeah I mean I would agree with that too I'm like you're not raising my blood pressure I don't know who you think you are. Next question. Another unpopular opinion.

Kids don't need a constant stimulation. I agree. Kids need to be fucking bored. They need to be bored. They need to learn how to be left to their own devices. They need to learn how to go figure it the fuck out. What happened to the days, let's take it back to like the 90s when parents used to lock their kids out of the house and it's like figure it out for a day home when the street lights come.

Yeah. Like I was out all night, but most people I would say, yeah, come home when the street lights are on. But I personally think that kids learn how to be so much more creative and play. I mean for Jackson, because he's an only child, like he learns how to play by himself. Like he'll go hunt golf balls or... If we, you and me, more me I would say, was to do that to our kids, all the internet trolls would call the cops on me.

If I'm like locking my kids out of the house and make them play outside, they're calling the cops on me. Well, it's just like, I don't, we don't live with a revolving door. So you're not running in and out of the house. If you want to play outside, go outside. And when you want to come in, come in. But we're not doing the back and forth stuff. I got a bathroom outside, right on my back deck.

You do? Yeah. Like a toilet? Like a full bathroom. Because the pool, I didn't want people to drip their wet clothes into the house. So on my back porch, there's a bathroom with a door. Like a pool house? No, just like an outdoor. It's like connected to the house, but you can't go through the house through it.

It's like on my back porch, there's a door to the bathroom. I'll send you a video. Is that where you shit? No, but I thought about that. I was like, oh. That's a good idea. 100%. So because I was like, I'm going to just go to Wawa to go to the bathroom, but I can

go outside. Anyways, I say all that to say, don't call the cops on me if I tell my kids to go the fuck outside and play outside all day because there's a bathroom and everything. It's just like, go outside, learn to be creative, let the juices flow, get on your scooter, take a fucking ride, go fish, you know, like do something fun outside and just be a kid. I don't like Jackson and I just had this conversation. I said, we're not sitting around on tablets all summer. So like you need to start thinking right now what we're going to do and by what we're going

to do, what are you going to do? Next question. How do you feel about couples popping each other's pimples they can't reach? For example, back or butt? Oh, I'm not each other's pimples they can't reach for example? Wait, what? Oh, I'm not popping anyone's pimples on their butt. I really don't I actually am so grossed out by popping pimples but on my partner I'm not letting them walk around with fucking zits on their face or their back.

Wait, do people get pimples on their butt? I think like ingrown hairs probably if I had to guess. Oh, I would let somebody pop it. You would? Yeah. I would spread my legs for that. 1000% What if you had an get. Oh, I would let somebody pop it. You would? Yeah. I would spread my legs for that. 1000%. What if you had an ingrown hair in your vagina?

Would you let them pull it out? Yeah. You would? Yeah. Because I don't want to do it and it hurts. Or you can't get to it. Yeah. Like, I mean, I've had one like between basically my asshole.

Like your taint? Yeah. And did you? I had somebody look at it one time and I was like, can you tell me what that is? But what it, but see that to me is like, they're going to think that it's like an STD or something. No, they're not going to think that because it doesn't look like that. You can just like feel it and it's like sore. And maybe I thought that at one point and I need somebody else to investigate.

Yeah. Like how did you did you spread your legs? Like what did this? It was just like, like that. Like I just did that. And you were like, can you look at this? Yeah. Can you look at this?

Can you check this out? And what did they say? What did he say? Lindsay, it's an ingrown hair. And they were like, can you look at this? Yeah, can you look at this? Can you check this out? And what did they say? What did he say? Lindsay, it's an ingrown hair. And they were not disgusted or disturbed? No, absolutely not. And then and then what? We had sex. Oh wow.

So very much not bothered. Yeah, very much not bothered. I cannot. Popping pimples on faces used to be like a high school thing for me. What? Yeah, like I used to love to pop people's pimples. No used to be like a high school thing for me. What? Yeah, like I used to love to pop people's pimples. No, I can't. It grosses me out. I can't watch it.

I can't see it. But like I also cannot watch my person walk around with zits on their face. Like Dr. Pimple Popper? No, I've never and I can't I don't want to talk about it. I'll throw up. I love it. It's just so satisfying.

No, it's not. It's you shouldn't be looking but you're looking no Because I don't want my kids walking around with shit in their ears shit in their nose shit in their eyes like we need to clean You up, right? They're my kids. I wonder what it's like to be a parent that lets their kids walk around with boogers because I just Parents that don't clean their kids ears Like do you forget about cleaning their ears and they have earwax pouring out of their ears? I will vomit earwax pouring out of their ears

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Hi, everyone. Okay, so where we left off in this episode, you had an entirely different cast of people, entirely different locale. Yeah, entirely different cast. You and Dale were getting ready for the day of recordings that were going to be taking place in New York City after the Webbies. Yeah. I'm for a loss of words, which rarely ever happens to me.

So would you like to take why we're doing this? Honestly, the events that have transpired in the last, you know few days Have been absolutely insane I'm currently coming to you from the hospital. I see Lindsay you're coming to us from Georgia because you're back home. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm We've got no episodes coming to you from New York City. Wait, half of this episode is like part New York.

Yes, that is true. That is the only part because the events that transpired, there were so many things. There was flights moving. There were car services moving. There were people possibly breaking in. There were people possibly exiting that There were people possibly breaking in. There were people possibly exiting that we didn't know were exiting. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a whirlwind.

But do you want to talk about how New York went before everything? Wait. What? Before everything. How was the Webby's? No. I had to truly learn the power and the paws. And I'm still in a state of, actually, when my girlfriend, I met for a lunch with the Mexican earlier today, when I forgot my pearl onions from my Lowcountry boil at the grocery store. So I was like, ah Mexicans next door will just like hit up the Mexican

She goes Lindsey. I'm pretty sure that you're still in a state of distraught You were still paused I'm still effectively paused. I don't know when I will become unmuted Don't even know what to say about the events that transpired. But what I will say is that never have I ever been accused of some of the things that I was accused of. I've never seen anyone accused of some of those things. Yeah. Kale's not finishing this episode solely for the fact that she is back home and has all seven kids and schedules were not going to align for us to bring you this fantastic bonus episode for your Monday morning commutes. So I'm

here to fill in. So that's first and foremost. Our podcast is great. Coffee Commons podcast is good. Yeah. So the way that I had an impromptu sleepover with Kristin and Alessandra. Oh yeah. We slept together in the same room bed. I forgot about that.

Bunk beds. But it's not. So much room for activities. There were a lot of activities. We just weren't doing them. Correct. There were others that were doing them. I just need everyone to know.

Lindsay really whipped all of our asses in flip cup Monday night. The way that Alessandra was like, she's from the South. She's from Georgia. They're born knowing how to do this. You can say that multiple times. She said, you can have the womb like this. Yes. And I'm like, we didn't come out of the womb flipping solo cups.

Evidently, it's just something that y'all can do. The way that y'all absolutely sucked at garage games really speaks to like a North and South divide. What garage? I want to know, the only game I remember being played was the only actual game I remember being played was Flip Cup. So we didn't get to even garage party it up. That was the only game that we were basically allowed to play because then shit hit the

fan and everybody was like, are we playing Flip Cup? Or is this a knockdown drag out? That was a very unique scenario. And then I had my tripod set up as if we were just taking all of this great content. Like I was whooping all y'all's asses and then out of the blue. I'm like, okay, everybody needs to go to bed. That's what needed to happen. Cale had the right idea. Cale scammed all of us.

She was the ringleader of the garage party. She actually was. I was the initial ringleader of the garage party. And then I was like, Oh, we can just like, go back, maybe have one claw hang out, listen to music for a minute, pass out. Well, then Kale took the ring lead of said garage party. And then Kale did not participate in said garage party. No, the last time I saw her, her happy ass was walking up the steps with every intention of going to bed. I knew that. That ass is not walking back down these

steps tonight. I know that. And then I went and got in the bed with her. Yes, you did. I sure did. You sure did. Then yep. And then chaos ensued. Yeah. And then you were in her bed to start it and you were in my bed to finish it.

Yeah. Oh my God. Okay, so let's finish up our unpopular opinions. I have some good ones, I think. Okay, so this one says, group chats are the new toxic relationships. Wait, explain. I think just like the people that you're in the group chat with

and the behavior that goes down inside group chat is like replacing a toxic relationship, like in the classic sense. No. Number one, I think that could be true for some people that participate regularly in group chats. You know, I have always said, do not put me in a group chat.

I hate a group chat. I am a constant regular who texts outside of the group chat about something that was going on in the group chat. Correct. You're like, I'm taking it to the side. We're side bar chat. Correct. You're like, I'm taking it to the side. We're side barring. Yes. I don't like group chats for a multitude of reasons. Number one, why are some people on group chats at 2am?

Yep. Causes me a great deal of concern. I either feel like you're up to no good or you're specifically up to no good. Yeah. I feel like, you know, the older I feel like the older that I get, the more aware I am of what times I'm sending communications to people. I will double check that time, especially with the schedule for later feature for texting. I will double check that time like a mofo. I regularly do not respond to group chats.

We do know that. We definitely know that. I'm like, why was this important to put in the group chat? I just, I don't understand. And then sometimes the sidebar conversation that does not have anything to do with me enters said group chat. Yeah. You know, so I'm like, let's just group chats. I feel like the intention of group chats were a couple of things like one,

if families are going to like an event, like we are going to a football game or something, maybe we have a group chat to know where each other's whereabouts are. I like this fun feature called find my iPhone or find my friends. And you can also use that and avoid the group chat. I also think it's great to have a group chat if you are planning for like a family event and it's like, okay, I'm bringing blah, blah, blah. You're bringing blah, blah, blah.

We all are on the same page to know what somebody is bringing. Outside of that, I really just don't see a purpose of a group chat because we all know everybody in this world is shy-sty little bitches and we all side text. That is true. I feel like I like my group chats for mass communication where I'm just stating something

and I don't actually wanna continue a conversation. It's more so like a, hey, PSA, here you go. And then I'll just be gone for a while. There's also this new nice feature on iPhone where you can schedule texts to go out. So they go out at an appropriate time. I feel like appropriate time to hit somebody is normally like between nine and 5 PM. Yeah, you are very particular about that. And like, I tend to agree unless there's some type of emergency, like on the work front, I for sure tend to agree with the times.

I try not to, especially when you're dealing with people that are in different time zones. But it's also like if it's an emergent situation, why are we sending a text anyway? Because texts are not meant to send for emergency phone calls are. You know what? That's a really good point. I think I've just become so accustomed to getting both methods of communication. And just from everybody I work with that truly anytime my phone pings, I respond like Pavlov's dog. I'm like... And we know that I don't respond hardly ever or at all. Correct. Yeah, that's why you have to call you. Yeah, like yesterday I had my phone on do not disturb like in personal focus mode all

day and the amount of missed calls and text messages that I received in a couple hour period of time was truly alarming. And I'm like, what the fuck are y'all doing? Everyone's like sending out a search party for Lindsay because you went MIA. The way that my flight had to be changed from Wednesday to Tuesday because I was so over it, when I got home, I went to bed and slept a good solid 12. I figured. And then you were like, had a minty bee and I was like, also saw that coming. No one heard from you for 24 hours. Yeah, it's called a silent minty bee.

I just want to know how does that look? You're having a minty bee at your house. What does that look like? You want me to just give you play by play from the time I got home? Yes, I do. Okay, so land from New York, get my suitcase in my car, drive home, come in immediately, get my suitcase out, open it up in the garage and only take out the important things that I need for getting myself to bed. Take a shower, put on my PJs, start my laundry, go to bed, wake up every three hours to check my phone

as if I feel like something's gonna be going on, which why would anything be going on at that hour? And then I slept from, I went to bed at like 8 45pm and slept until 10 30am the following day. Okay. Okay. I like the, I like the method. And then I went to Pilates at four. We still made sure we got Pilates in. This is good. We did because if Pilates did not get in the way that the Minty B would have really been Minty B-ing.

That's like your one constant is like, I know that I'm going to Pilates. If nothing else is happening that is happening. I actually was shocked because I did a little poll on my Instagram and I was like, should I wake up and go to like early morning Pilates or should I do a three mile walk? And the amount of people that selected three mile walk was roughly like 70 something percent. And I'm like, that's because y'all

have never tried Pilates. Can you like explain to me what y'all do at Pilates? Cause I've never tried it. Um, well, it just depends on the different type of class that you take. Like you can take a cardio class and it's like moving the entire time and you're going to be a sweat bucket when you leave. There's low impact ones that are more like stretch classes,

which love to do that like once a week if I have the ability to do so. And then there's some weighted classes. Now they have the bands, like the booty bands. So they incorporate the booty bands on the reformer. So you're like moving and then you've got weights and then you've got the booty band. So it's a full body workout the entire time. It just seems very intense,

but like everyone I know that does Pilates loves it. But it's so Zen. Like you don't even know you're being intense until you see your body change. Oh, so you're not like sore and stuff? Or you are? Oh, no. Like when I first started pwadies, yes. And now I'm kind of getting to a place where I'm like, okay, now I kind of need to incorporate something else. But I really just like don't have it in me the level of

dedication that it takes me to get to pwadies four or five days a week. There's just no way I think walking is going to be the only other thing that I incorporate into my weekly routine. Just like getting more steps in. Remember when I used to have like a full blown gym membership and Pilates? Yes, I do. Mm-hmm. It's like, who did I think I was?

I was going to say, I don't think that you ever... There was like rare occasions where you would actually execute both. Excuse me? I felt like it was very rare. You would go to the gym and you would do your, I feel like, cardio. And then you would have Pilates. You didn't have time to do a bunch of weights and stuff like that. I wish I did. Yeah.

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Next one. Not everyone needs to be an entrepreneur. True. Okay, I agree with this wholeheartedly. Based on the whole thing of like, everyone needs to make extra money, especially in the economy, right? Everyone can use extra money. So a lot of people are trying to turn passions into side hustles and things like that. But like, as someone who's been there done that, the joy part gets sucked out of absolutely everything when you start doing that.

And then you have absolutely no relaxing hobbies just for yourself and that is a really sad, sucky place to be. It also think that- It's like when your hobby becomes a moneymaker. Yeah. Now it's a business, no longer a hobby. Yeah. Now it's a business, now it's not just for fun, now it's work.

And I think that some people just truly aren't meant to be entrepreneurs as it is. They just don't have the personality type that it takes. And what I mean is the ability to handle all the things that come with that and just the mentality. Well, great. Determination, unknowns. I feel like a lot of personalities don't deal well with unknowns. Fluctuating income, a lot of personalities don't deal well with unknowns, fluctuating income. A lot of personalities don't deal well with not knowing this is exactly what I'm bringing home this month.

100%. That's why sales jobs are not for everybody. Oh, if I was at a sales job, I would quit the day I started. Yeah. Yeah. Like Will told me the other day, and he's been in sales for a very long period of time and it is what May remember the other day I was like thought it was April and it was like already May. He's already hit quota for the entire year in this month. Those are people who thrive in those types of environments because they are determined and they want to market off their list. Like, okay, anything that I do over this is like extra. If

you don't have those types of personalities and sales jobs, then sales is not for you. Right. 100%. I wholeheartedly agree. Next, of unpopular opinion, weddings are overrated and mostly for guests, not the couple. Hands down, totally agree. I agree with that. I've said if I ever get married again, which I go back and forth on that so often, I think the right situation would have to present itself in such a way that I could not say no, right? Yeah. I would never freaking do a blow out wedding with hundreds of people there. No, I kept mine small. And even then I felt like it was more for everybody else and not as much for like, I almost feel like when you're planning a wedding, I'm not saying that it's not things that like you would want at your wedding, but when you're trying to plan for a large amount of people, at what point is your dream

getting lost in the planning for incorporating that many people? That's a great question. I've always wondered like how people go about planning weddings that have like hundreds and hundreds of people. Like what does that even entail? What does that even look like? Well, because I also feel like when you have these dreams of this wedding, like whatever the dreams may be, it could be small, could be large. Let's say, okay, so I knew this person one time

and she had her dream wedding planned out from the time she was like in elementary school. The only thing that changed on her list of dreams for her wedding was the color of her flowers. Oh, wow. I mean, down to like every detail, you either have to plan so far in advance to be able to afford like your fifth grade dreams, or you have to forgo some of those dreams to accommodate the amount of people. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's I mean, their weddings are so expensive. So expensive.

And I guess I just have the feeling of I would only want people there that are actually in our lives jointly. Mm hmm. As a couple, right? Mm hmm. That's how Corey and I did it. We very much were like people that love us, support us, and that's who we wanted there. That's why we kept it really small.

That and the budget. But moving on from that, that's how I operate, right? And not everybody will agree with this and that's okay. But if I get invited to a wedding and I don't support the union, the couple, the marriage, I don't find that it's my business to be there. It's kind of giving nosy. Yeah. Right? Like, why are we here? I wholeheartedly agree with that. So I have two thoughts on weddings personally for myself There's one situation in my life that I

Would do a full-blown wedding Mm-hmm any situation outside of that I Would do justice of the peace is that what it's called? Yeah Just of the peace and then just do like a big reception. Yeah, like a party. Yeah. Yeah, I like that vibe. I think so many people are moving towards that specifically.

Do you know what situations I'm talking about? Yeah, I do, 100%. You're like, OK, and this took a major turn. Why is my hair so fucking blonde? I love it though. It looks great. Okay, next question. Okay, next unpopular opinion is brunch is just overpriced breakfast with mimosas. No, you're a liar.

I do not agree. I don't I don't agree brunch is a vibe Brunch should be an actual recognized meal on The weekend like if we're talking about a week Monday through Sunday It should be recognized as an actual meal Saturday and Sunday agreed. I love brunch. I love a good brunch I love the time that it takes place. I love what's served on the menu. I love the mimosas, but I have a bone to pick with my favorite place that I go for brunch. Okay. They do like, they ask you how many people are doing bottomless mimosas. They charge you for that, but they bring you one pitcher and then you

do it again. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So you get the same amount no matter like what it is. OK, so we're lying. That's how I felt. I was pissed. I was like, I feel like I'm being scammed, but the food is really good. And it's it's about basically what they're doing is they are charging you essentially by the glass, which is not bottomless. I know. And like, it should be bottomless for the whole table. And don't worry

about who the fuck's drinking it. Correct. Like I should be paying for the pitcher. But I love when I go somewhere that I'm a big brunch girlie. Like I absolutely love brunch. That is my favorite meal. Second meal to brunch that would be my favorite is Leonard. Yeah, same. Like I love a good like in between lunch and dinner, like whatever time that is. What's that like five or four? I think it's like three or four. Okay, three or four. I can get behind that. Because I also typically, non intentionally

intermittent fast. Yeah. So then I'm starved by like three or four, but I don't want to eat a big meal. But then I'm like, no, I just want to go ahead and eat the meal and then that'll be all I eat. Right. So I love that. Or like, I'm going to go grab wings. I'm going to go grab something small to eat because I haven't eaten all day, but I do the same thing you do. It's like unintentionally and then we just call it intermittent fasting. We're just like, we are health conscious. We are healthy people. Actually we are diabolical and nothing of that sort.

Yeah. 1000%. So, back to the brunch. I love when you go to a place that has bottomless mimosas, but they bring it's almost like a puree type thing. Have you ever had that where it's like with the juice? So it adds like little like fucking fruit crumbs down in there, but it's like jelly almost. You're talking about a few? It's like a fruit puree. Yes, and it is so good.

When they have that, I know it's going to be freaking jam up. You with the jam up. It's so good. With the jam up. I love that. Okay, next unpopular opinion that I have is being child free by choice is not selfish. It's responsible. Being child free by choice is not selfish, it's responsible. Being child free by choice is not selfish, it is responsible. Agreed.

I wholeheartedly agree. Wholeheartedly agree. I don't know how someone could actually disagree with this because life is about choices, right? Like we all make them. I've said for many years since I became a mother that I love the women that are out there. And I'm saying years since I became a mother, that I love the women that are out there. And I'm saying women because I'm a woman. I love to see fellow women that are so passionate about their careers and the life phase that they're

in or the lifestyle that they want to live and just say, you know what, kids are not for me. Versus someone having a child because they're giving in to a societal pressure to feel like this is something that should be on my bucket list. It's really not but society tells me so, so I need to go ahead and do it. And then they shit the bed on parenthood. Yeah, or they hate every minute or it drastically impacts their

mental health, which can even happen with people who choose to have children, right? It's hard. It's, I'm sure, very, very difficult. I am a huge advocate and I hate that people think, and I would say it's more the older generation that thinks that it's selfish. A woman is choosing not to have children. It's because she's so selfish that she doesn't want to, you know, have to raise kids. And I have never agreed with the

mentality. I'm very much like, I think we're all called to do something. And not all of us are called to be moms in that way. Guess what? Just because you are not a mom does not mean that you are a childless cat lady. That stigma is insane. Like, where did that even come from? It's insane. It's like, you know what? If you want to have a fucking cat, which I've got bones to pick with the people who choose to have cats, like I just don't understand the vibes.

Okay? But if that's what you choose to do, that is your prerogative to do that. It just like it's my prerogative to raise one child. Right, exactly. It's all decision based, but I don't think that it, you know, I don't agree that it's makes you selfish to choose not to bring a child into the world. Coffee Convo's podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today?

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covers GLP-1s for free. Go to ro.co.ca.ca for black box warning and full safety information about GLP-1 medications. Agreed. Speaking of my child, can I tell you what I've actually been doing for the last 24 hours? Oh, I'm scared. But yes, preparing for his fifth grade graduation party. And I was just talking to my nanny on FaceTime earlier today and she was like, why is it taking so long? I'm like, what are you talking about? She's like, no, you're just like going here and you're going there and you're like

doing catering and like you're doing all of this stuff. This is like graduation graduation. I'm like, no, this is called lazy mom. This is called lazy mom and dad don't want to be on a grill. So we're doing a taco bar from local Mexican restaurant. That's what that's called. Also, we were both traveling for work last week. So don't even get me started on that. As I've been driving around to do these errands, I have been listening to Maurya Wallen's 37 songs,

which by the way are on, I don't know if it's like country charts or billboard. Don't even know what the fucking difference is. What does it matter? Um, out of 50 top songs, his drop, which was 37 songs are in the top 50. I need everyone to listen to Jack and Jill and also cry with me because I have done nothing but just listen to the song and like weep. I need to listen to it. You sent it to me yesterday, I think, and I haven't listened yet. I need to.

But you've been lying there. I'm just not in the headspace. You know what I mean? I don't want to associate the good music with this place. That's true. That's fair. Okay. Next moving on. Okay. Next on popular opinion. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on this. You don't have to love your family unconditionally.

Blood does not automatically earn loyalty. True. Cause I'm truth here. Yeah. True. I think that I don't want to say that unconditional love is earned because that would just negate the fact of the statement of unconditional, right? I get what you're saying. You're kind of like, well, that doesn't really make sense.

Okay. I'll just tell you how I feel. My parents are my parents and I will love them as my parents until the day that I die. My mom birthed me and I used to tell my dad all the time growing up, he was like, well, y'all don't really have a relationship. And I said, I understand, but I love her because she gave birth to me and she gave me life. And that will never change. Yeah. But I don't necessarily think that that means unconditional love. Like unconditional love to me means like what I have for Jackson, I would do anything and cross any bridge, any body of water, anything for him.

anything for him. There's very few people I can say that about in my life. Yeah. I mean, I actively made decisions to disassociate with certain people from my family who, you know, for various reasons, it just wasn't the way that it should have been. But I think that the older I get, the more I understand the whole thing of like you choose, you can choose your family. Like your family is who you choose. I feel the exact same way that you said about like, Cory and my mom. I have certain friends that I feel that way about, but I definitely also like with the unconditional love aspect, I think people get that messed up thinking that like that means you can

you'll take any amount of shit someone gives you and there's a very big difference between getting stepped like walked all over and unconditional love it's not the same and I think people Definitely associate the two. Mm-hmm. I think as a mother, and I would love to know from other people who are listening to this who are mothers, I could not imagine what it would be like

to love my child any other way than unconditionally. It doesn't matter, like, yes, does he piss me off? Yeah, does he do stupid stuff? Yes, does he make messes? Yes, does he cause some issues? Yes. But unconditionally, every single day I choose him. Yeah. Yeah. I cannot say that I have that love for other people that would be considered family via

blood relation. Right. Right. That's where I stand on that. I would love to know what other people have to say about this because I have read some forums, like back in the day before I had Jackson, I used to go on like those mommy, like blog forums to try to like find out information of what am I supposed

to feel like at 30 weeks and two days or whatever. And I came across one about this woman talking about how she had this baby. And she thought that she was going to unconditionally love this child. And that she had never had unconditional love in her life and had never unconditionally loved anyone, including the person that she had the child with. But she felt like that would be her first time unconditionally loving something and said that she had the child with, but she felt like that would be her first time unconditionally loving something and said that she didn't. Okay.

I feel like that's something I've heard commonly, right? Where you just expect to have this tie to your child as soon as they're born and so many people struggle with that aspect because they feel like they're not meeting what the standard supposedly is and not feeling that way. And it's like, you just gave birth to a whole individual that you don't know. Like I feel like it could go either way and that's okay. I just don't know like what that would be like.

But again, I didn't have those struggles. So I'm not gonna judge anybody who might possibly have experienced that. I can tell you from the moment that that child was born, I wasn't worried about anything that was going on with me. I was just like, where's my baby? But I have heard stories personally, and we can get into it on another day, that there was a child born in my family and that the mother gave the daughter to her dad and said you wanted her, take her. Oh, okay.

From the moment that she was birthed. Right. So like, I don't understand not saying that it's not possible or also not judging anybody for feeling that way because I also think there's power in honesty. Definitely. Definitely. That's why like I, nothing shocks me, right also think there's power and honesty. Definitely. Definitely. That's why like I, nothing shocks me, right? Like there's very little that shocks me these days and I really try not to pass judgment because you never know what's leading someone to a decision that they make.

Absolutely. That being said, have foul play for you. Oh God. Are we ready? Is it fouler than what I experienced in New York City? Oh, because that's its own foul play. Okay. I'm not going to be the judge of that. At some point, should I write in a foul play to my own podcast and pretend like I know nothing about it, but it's like me? Yeah, for sure. For sure. I'm like, that might be how I start leaking information.

Okay, this says I have the foulest foul play story and have contemplated sending it in for ages now and decided that now is the time. My boyfriend and I had only been together for a few months and we were still in the can't get enough of each other phase. Anyway, we were getting jiggly one evening and decided to do any I'm hoping because jiggly is crazy. It's crazy. And anyway, we were getting jiggly one evening and decided to do anal. All was going well and we're having a top notch time. We were doing

legs over shoulders and then suddenly he pulled out super fast and flipped me over to finish in doggy. As I had my head down, I noticed a tiny poop on the bed, which must have flown out of my ass when he whipped out and spun me over. I majorly panicked and tried to cover it with my hand so he wouldn't see. He finished and instead of leaving me to deal with said poop, he laid down next to me and pulled me in for a cuddle. Again, I panicked I was so scared he would see it. I instinctively grabbed it and held it in my hand as he cuddled me. He was telling me how good this next was, how he loves me and all I could think about was the fact that I was clutching my own shit. Needless to say, when he finally let go, I just about sprinted to the bathroom and damn near scrubbed my hand raw. We now have two

kids together and are planning our wedding, but I've still never told him the poop grabbing story. I would not be able to do that shit. Number one, that would not be something that I could just keep from someone as disgusted as I would be with myself physically. I would just have to tell it. Because the thought of thinking that someone

might potentially know about it, but they didn't say anything. No, I'm going to go ahead and tell myself. I'm just like thinking to myself right now, like you and I shared a bed. If you like were holding a turd in your hand while in my bed. Oh my God. No. I'd be like, Excuse me. Like what what are you doing? Also, I just feel like in a moment like that, I would find something that they needed to get me in the bathroom so that I could immediately do away with shit. But this is kind of giving remember when I told you that

Jackson was in a pair of boxers in my bed that time, and he farted and just like a little tiny pebble turd came out? Yes. You're like, yes, I do. Yeah, just like the rolling turd. I feel like I've never had a turd like that. That's never happened to me. Like that must be a weak butthole because I've just never had a turn just like fly out.

I mean, they were doing anal. So like it's open. You know what I mean? I know, but I've heard a lot of stories actually, multiple people have told me that I personally know and was personally victimized by these people. That you're not they're not going to get shit on your dick. And I'm like, but you

are. Yeah, unless you're doing extensive prep. Yes, you are. Like, where the shit comes out is where you're going in. Bound to come in contact. going in. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Bound to come in contact. You said mm hmm.

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