Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - AITA & Would You Rather..

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

CC437: On this month's bonus episode... Lindsie and Kail touch on the unspoken rules of relationships and family. How much do you really want to know about your partner's past, especially when their ex shows up at a family cookout? Reddit provides some "Am I the Asshole?" scenarios, and they also play a round of "Would You Rather". Plus, prepare for some hilarious (and TMI) bathroom confessions and a passionate rant against haters on Reddit. Thank you to our sponsors!Beam: Go to shopbeam.com today! Limited time pricing of up to 35% off PLUS 2 free gifts when you use the code COFFEE at checkout.Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month.Branch Basics: Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code Coffee at https://branchbasics.com/Coffee #branchbasicspodJones Road Beauty: Use code Coffee at jonesroadbeauty.com to get a Free Cool Gloss with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeautySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship. family and life in the public eye i'm just not with the fakery anymore there's a fakery bakery around here here's kailin lindsay good morning and welcome back to another episode of coffee combos podcast how are you cat podcast imagine we just change the name and it's just kitty cast kitty cats podcast i mean that is like our what do they call like pseudo name if you are in a relationship with someone i need i wanted to start this episode off with a banger if you are in a relationship with someone. Obviously, we're adults now. This is not immature, 20s, teens, whatever. And you go to a party, a dinner,

an engagement, a baby shower, just anything. And your partner had relations, sexual or used to talk to them or whatever, with somebody that is in your presence now. Would you want to know or would you rather not know? Okay, so I just actually saw a TikTok about this. Oh, okay. Jana Kramer and two other girls, I think. Okay. And I think her take on it was he likely knew that she had been with this person,

but she didn't want to tell him because they had like a movie role coming up where they would have to be like doing something together and she had had like other relations. So she was conflicted and then she went to her therapist and was like, what do I do I do I tell him? Do I not tell him? I personally feel like if you are in tune with a person that you're with, you probably already know. I think I would want to know. I want to know without a doubt. Without any, like, I want to be so in tune with my partner that we've had adult, mature conversations about people that we've been with or, you know, how we've been in the like there will never be a time moving forward in my life where I ever

deny a time that I cheated on someone who I cheated who I cheated with like I'm in a place and I've been here for a long time where I have an as you know on this podcast like I've literally done it like I will say who I've cheated on when I cheated I know what behaviors to look for like you cannot bullshit a bullshitter so any relationship from here to the end of my life like literally want to know all the things and like that doesn't mean like sitting down and like okay let's talk about every person you've been with, every circumstance, every relationship. Like, that's not what I mean. Just like, okay, say, for example, we're going to go to a mutual friends party and there may be

someone. Like, I know that I may have slept with someone there because of the people that are going to this event, right? I'm going to say, you know, there might be people at this event that I have slept with. You know, I know this person and I might say it or like, and maybe even ask them, like, do you want to know and if they say yes like i want to tell them there was a time and i've talked about it on the podcast where i threw a gender reveal for somebody and i didn't know that my boyfriend at the time slept with the person ongoing sleeping with them both while we were together and while we were not

together she brought her boyfriend i'm with him and the whole time i had no fucking clue i didn't know if her boyfriend knew he told me after the fact and i felt so fucking stupid like at the point that it could have been brought up or conversations could have been had or I could have been having a conversation with this person and everyone knew. I don't want to look stupid. I want like I'm too old for that. I feel like at this point in my life, I want to be able to say like if someone comes up to me, oh, I used to talk to your man. Yeah, I know. In 2009, you talked to my man for three years or y'all were together or y'all fucked and y'all. Cool. And what? Like I want to be able to say I know. And so what? It's so interesting that you have that perspective because I don't want to be around

anyone that my man has been with sexually. No, I wouldn't want to willingly be around them. But like, if we're going somewhere, like we've RSVPed somewhere where there may be someone that my partner has slept with or I've slept with, do you want to know? Because it's possible that I, so-and-so might be there. You know what I mean? Okay, I'll tell you this shady situation that happened to me. I'm not going to tell you the time frame when it happened because it would give away, like,

who it was. Everything. But I was out to dinner with someone and he had received a text message from a friend, like a lifelong friend. He had known this person since they had been like an eighth grade. This friend text and says, hey, you and Lindsay come to such and such place. We're like, okay, we don't really have anything else to do. Like, we'll go to this place. we get there and this guy is with a friend but a friend that had had sexual relations with who I was with

and they were the only two people that were there. I knew about the sexual relations with this person because we had had conversations just, you know, about life and it just came up. I wanted to lose my absolute shit because then I felt like completely bamboozled. Number one, why would your friend that you have known since eighth grade put you in that situation? But number two, why would he put somebody that you have voiced to that person that you you're in love with why would he put me in that situation i would agree with you both of those both of those scenarios are fucked no i'd be so upset and then i get there and completely blindsided

and the woman was so blatantly rude to me everybody could see it and not only was she blatantly rude this woman is in her maybe late 40s early 50s and And she was hanging out with one of my brother's friends who's in his 20s. Why? That's weird. The entire situation was weird. And I just feel like situations like that are so disrespectful. No, I agree with you.

We've talked about this before. But how do you feel about your partner's family still being involved with the ex? I can only go off of my perspective of things. and mine's kind of skewed because I did not have just typical relationships with my family at all. And so Will's family became my family. Yeah. And so now that we are divorced, there was a period of time where we didn't speak. We would attend like events for Jackson jointly and we were all there, but there wasn't any communication going on.

But now that's like so far past. I text with his parents and stuff. And I don't think that that's an. issue because we have a child together and they were my family yeah do i think that if will got in a serious relationship with someone that they would have an issue with those relationships i do i will say that if there is a child involved i think that that kind of like skews my perception I agree. No, I totally. Like, if there's no kids involved, you need to respect, in my opinion, I know everybody's an adult. So, like, you can't really dictate who your sister or your mom or your brother, whoever is, like, going to be friends with. But at the point that there's no kids involved, then you only know this person because of your family member. Like, to me, cut that shit off. I mean, I feel like if we would have not ever had a child together, I feel like we probably would have never.

ever spoke again. I mean, I have exes. I didn't have kids with it. I have literally never talked to again. And that's like, that's best case. That should be the standard. I agree. It is hard, though, because I think back to, like, high school, I had this boyfriend, John. I, like, lost my virginity to him. I became best friends with his sister, but we were, like, him and I broke up and, like, we really didn't talk after that. So it was like, I was only with his sister. I don't know, but I was also in high school. Do you know what I mean? Like it was different, like, then when you're an adult and you have, I don't know, that's so weird.

Like, my family would never talk, even though we have kids together, I don't even think they would talk to, like, my kids' dads. Like, they would not, like, that would be weird. I mean, I will say there have been exes that, there have been exes that I was able to maintain, like a cordial, I wouldn't call it a relationship. I don't even know what to call it. Like you would say friendly, but not like remain friends or close. Like you wouldn't call them to go get drinks or dinner or something. But like you're going to be friendly. If you see them out, you might say hi. Yeah. Like that's fine. But like. But never have I ever talked

to an ex-s parent outside of the relationship. Right? Like the, I'm just thinking of two relationships, have I seen or spoken to the two people that I dated over a period of time? Yeah, like, I've seen them in passing or, you know, might be out at a local restaurant or something and they're there and I'm there. And it's just like, hey, and buy. Just to be cordial, but never have I ever maintained a relationship with like their family members. Agreed. It's just weird. It's so weird. So this week on the bonus episode, we're going to run through Am I the asshole, which I think is so fun. And then we also have some would you rather's.

So the first, am I the asshole? This person says, my son just turned eight and his favorite cake is red velvet. I bought one from his favorite bakery. When I went to set it out, my mother-in-law said that she does not like red velvet and replaced it with vanilla that she had ordered. My son was so upset and asked where his cake was. I told my mother-in-law, she overstepped and she's no longer invited to his birthdays. now my husband said I was too harsh, am I the asshole?

I do think that's a little harsh to say you're not invited at all, but like that is a big line that she crossed. Like you don't get to decide that. But I think she could have just said like, if you do that again, you're not coming. I don't even think that situation in its entirety is appropriate because I think if the mom got her child, the cake that they liked,

and then something was done with said cake, Number one, I'm showing my ass. But there is a compromise there. Like, if the grandma likes whatever, vanilla cake and they like red velvet, why can't you just have both? Truly. I mean, have both. But grandma needs to contribute on her end, the one that she wants, because that's not what the birthday kid wants. I know.

Okay. So I have to ask you, when you're doing kids' birthday parties, are you a cake order or are you a cupcake order? Um, ooh. I always do cake, but I like the cupcakes recently. I have always done cupcakes because number one, I feel like it's so much easier. It's more sanitary. You know, like when you're doing party stuff for kids, it's like one less thing to like not have to cut a cake.

I love the idea of the cupcakes. If you do cupcakes, are you getting vanilla and chocolate or just one? Vanilla and chocolate. We have the twins' birthday, second birthday coming up, and that was one of the things that she asked me, like, do you want one cake? Do you want two smash cakes, cupcakes, whatever? And I'm not doing like a big part. They're two years old.

Like, what am I? I'm not doing a party. They barely have friends their age. So the cupcakes makes more sense to me. Okay. But if you're doing smash cakes, which we only did a smash. cake on Jackson's first birthday, I think. Then, yeah, I'm ordering cupcakes.

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idea of cupcakes and that's a simple solution if for this situation that could have just been resolved by not doing a cake and doing multiple flavors of cupcakes i literally just texted cats Kathy and I said on second thought, can we just do cupcakes for the twins? No smash cakes because you're right. And I also think that those big pretty cakes get, they go to waste because a lot of the fondin is like not like super good. I'd rather have like a good sheet cake from like Acme or Walmart or Sam's Club than I've heard Costco's pretty good. So fuck it. I mean, they're just not as aesthetically pleasing. And I do think that a lot of people get wrapped up because I was one of those moms that that was back in my Pinterest era that I just wanted the cake and like what it looked like for the photos

for the birthday party and so I would get wrapped up in that but I always would buy cupcakes and still have that cake. Okay, that makes sense to me. That makes me. You know what I mean? I am struggling for anyone listening to this podcast episode, I know it's the bonus, but if you guys have any ideas for birthday gift ideas for Lincoln, he's turning 12 and very big into sports, just all sports in general, but like we've pretty much much tapped into every single thing that I could have gotten him and he has everything that he could ask for. So like, I'm sort of at a loss. I do know that there are World Cup tickets, but they're $1,300 a person. So my thought was if I could do like a World Cup situation for

him, like either just me and him or like, I don't know if that would be a good one because does he want that for his, like I don't know, but he already has an Xbox and he has the AirPod, the big ones, and he has a cell phone, like, what do you get for kids at this age? It becomes so hard when kids start getting older because the things that they ask for are like gifts that kind of keep giving, right? So it's like the Xbox or the PlayStation 5 or whatever it's called. And then they have the cell phone. So then like that's off the table. I don't know. We do, you and I have talked about this before. We do experiences. well that's why i was saying like the world cup um would have been would be a big one i know he wants

he loves rod wave but rod wave i don't even know if he's on tour i don't think he's on tour right now so it's like i could give an experience but there's nothing like 1300 dollars per ticket is crazy yeah that is so crazy and like he has soccer balls and he has home soccer goals and he has Like, I don't know. Yeah, that's so hard. I don't know. I mean, I am always a big, and I know it removes the surprise element to some degree, but I always ask Jackson, like, hey, can you make me a list of things that, like, you have your eye on?

True. You know? And then you can kind of get a better gauge. But I'm kind of at the place now, I'm not going to just be buying shit to be buying shit. That's my whole thing. I do not, if I'm going to spend $1,300, whether it's on items or like an experience, I am no longer buying shit like junk just to buy it so that you have something to open. I want it to be thoughtful, intentional, practical. Like, I want it to be something that is worth the money because if it's just going to end up in a junk drawer or a closet or under your bed, I don't want to do that. And I'm not, yeah, I can't. It just doesn't make sense. Okay. The next person says, my fiance and I decided that we don't want kids at our wedding. My sister threw a fit because she assumed her six-year-old daughter would be the flower girl. When I said no, she told me I was ruining her child's memories. I told her she could come solo or not at all. Now my mom is saying I'm tearing the family apart. Am I the asshole? No, you're not the asshole. I do think there's a world where there could be a child flower girl and then they go home or go to a hotel. with a babysitter after the fact. That's what I did at mine.

Flower Girl and Elliot, Isaac, at the time. They did their job. They walked down the aisle. It was super cute. They stayed for a minute and then grandma took them back to the hotel. So there is a compromise if you really wanted to do it. But if you don't, that is your decision to not have children at your wedding. I think it's such a sticky situation when you're dealing specifically with children of the family.

I think that's where it gets a little like convoluted for me. I think saying you don't want kids at your wedding, you are entitled to feel that way. When my ex-brother-in-law got married, Jackson, and I think somebody else was in the wedding. Maybe it was just Jackson as the ring beer. And I just had one of my closest friends at the time. She's now passed away. God rest her soul. But she and her boyfriend came and picked Jackson up after the actual wedding.

And then there was like no kids that were. there. And I do think that that's a good compromise. I don't know how it would feel if I was having a wedding and I had family members that had kids and I was like they can't come to the actual wedding or be in the wedding. Like I just think about all the people in my life that have children that don't have a village. Like for me, if I'm going to have certain people, I know that they're not going to have help. They're not going to have an option or a babysitter. They don't have the means to funds. So you just really have to look at your like people. But yeah, I think get it. I mean, if it's possible, have someone else go back to the hotel room with them after if you want

them in just like the flower girl situation. Listen, if you don't want to make changes, then fucking don't. You're not tearing the family apart. And if they feel like you are, that's on them, not on you. I don't think where I think that the sister with a six year old daughter went wrong was when she said that she was ruining her child's memories. Like at the end of the day, it's not about your child's memories in this specific situation because it's about your sister's wedding. So I don't necessarily think that this sister is the asshole, but I could also see where this would create family conflict. I don't. I literally don't. Kristen, what's your thoughts? I just feel like I'm in agreement because it's, it shouldn't be about anybody besides the bride and the groom that day.

It doesn't matter. I had a situation like this where I ended up having to allow a minor to be there outside of my brother-in-law who, of course, was going to be there. I had to allow another individual because people were having shit fits. And I spent more time wondering what that child was doing and like paying attention to the child than I did like anything else. And that's fucked up. It shouldn't be like that. Like you should not have to be worrying about somebody else's child at your wedding. Like, that's not, that's not okay. I agree with y'all. The next person says, my sister constantly asked me to watch her two kids. Last weekend, she wanted me to watch them for six hours so that she could go out. I told her I would do it, but I needed $60 because

I had to cancel plans. She freaked out and said, family doesn't charge family. I reminded her that I'm 21, not a built-in nanny. Am I the asshole for charging my sister to babysit? And immediately I'm going to say no. No. I think that when a person in a family asks for the kids here and there. Cool. We don't need to pay. I'll make sure they have what they need. You're going to do your part. You want to hang out with them. But at the point that this is becoming a regular occurring situation, there needs to be a compensation plan. I feel like to your point, let's say, for example, Will told his brother, like, I'll watch your two kids or like I would like to spend time with your two kids. I don't think that there needs to be

any money exchanged in a situation like that. But if you are asking somebody to watch your children for a specific something, you would, you would have to pay somebody regardless. So why wouldn't you compensate that person? Honestly, $60 for six hours? For two kids? I mean, that's a steal. I'd be like, okay no problem do you want dinner too yeah literally but also if you don't like what i'm saying then go pay somebody else if you family doesn't charge family okay well i'm canceling plans to so that you can go out and do what you want to do what do you mean you can't compensate me 60 $60 for six hours of time that's $10 an hour and it's not even $10 an hour really because she's going to have to feed those kids within those six hours and herself.

People have a lot of audacity and they really like are out here just like expecting and assuming so much. Like what, where do you get off assuming these things? I, the audacity is fucking crazy. Okay, the next person says, my best friend's bachelor's trip is in Miami. The hotel flights and activities add up to over two. thousand dollars i told her i couldn't afford it but i'd still come to her bridal shower and wedding she told me that if i skipped the trip i'm out of the wedding party she uninvited me from the

wedding all together everyone is split am i the asshole for not going absolutely you are not the asshole for not going i just ran in to this situation actually i can't understand that well if you don't come you can't be in the wedding i don't understand that when life is life like shit comes up all the time and if you want people to be at these extra events yes i know it comes with being in the bridal party but like then pay if you are saying it's this or get out of the wedding then pay for them pay for them to do it so i was telling you about the wedding that i was in on last episode yep and they did a whole bachelorette at the beach and whatnot and unfortunately that bachelorette party fell on a weekend that I had Jackson.

I can't justify going to a bachelorette party and giving up time with my child. And the bride totally understood that and was like, that doesn't change my feelings about anything. Like I understand custody plans or custody plans life happens. And I was still in the wedding and there was no issue. Parents, I'm talking to you or anyone that takes care of. children. Getting kids to eat healthy can feel like a daily battle, right? I mean, you're standing there in the kitchen, staring at a plate of broccoli, begging your kid to take one

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that are, like, I don't get it. If I have a wedding at any point and somebody can't make a, First of all, I didn't even have a bachelor party or a bridal shower. So a bachelorette party. If I, no, what the fuck? Like, people don't have the means or the money or whatever. It's like, I still want you a part of my life. I still want you a part of my huge day. And I feel like, you know, when you're doing these bachelor and bachelorette trips that are costing over $2,000,

that's such a heavy spend on top of spending for a shower and also. to be in a wedding. Well, it's just like, that's somebody's mortgage payment, that someone's mortgage plus car payment, that's somebody's rent. Like, you're asking, especially in this economy. Yeah, Kristen said in this economy, that is a wild expectation. And I totally agree with that. Actually, I was supposed to go to a wedding in a couple of weeks.

And the wedding location changed multiple times over a short period of time. So at first it was going to be Florida and I was like, okay, I can probably swing that because Will has Jackson for fall break. So it's going to fall during the fall break time. So I wouldn't have him anyway. It's a six hour drive. Like I don't have to do flights and whatever. And I can turn it into like a mini vacation for myself too. So to what do they call it two birds, one stone. Two birds, one stone. Like I could get that. But then when the wedding location changed to Mexico and then, also moved the date up from like one part of the year to I think we got a wedding invitation and there were only three months to really prepare for this. And you're talking about going to a nice resort that when I did the cost between the flights and the resort, it would have cost me close to $5,000. And I'm just like, I can't justify that spend. And I don't feel bad about it? I don't feel bad about when it comes to stuff like that. I've never really felt

bad. It's like I can give you, I can offer you this, but it's like years and years and years ago when I said about like the birthday trip to Maryland. For me, it was a day trip. I can't justify the spend for a full week there. When this is a day trip for me, my solution is I'll come for the day, right? Like it's the same thing. Same for a wedding. Same for a, and I went to a destination wedding a couple years ago. And I left within 24 hours because the heat, that everything, I was like, I don't, I can't justify this. Like, I'm going home.

I would be very select too. Like, now it's like I really, my mindset has shifted a little bit. If it was you or Kristen or Sterling that got me, like I would justify somehow, some way I'm going to be there no matter how much it costs. But if it's somebody that I'm just friendly with or I'm like, sort of friends with, I can't justify it. It's just like, when you're asking people to spend that kind of money for your wedding, that to me just sounds really crazy, specifically with the economy the way that it is.

Like, I didn't start budgeting for that. There wasn't enough time to budget for $5,000 in three months time. And I mean, we're not talking, that's like $5,000 to spend. roughly five thousand dollars to spend for like four days like think about that i it's not happening from i that would be better spent in a savings account where i can add to it and put it on a down payment for a rental property or put it on a down payment for elliott's car to i mean because think about it he's going to be driving in the next six months so go to a wedding or put that money down on my son's car do you know what i mean that you get to a point when you grow

up and you're our age, that you start thinking about, like, how I could use that money in another way. And that's kind of where I'm at with it. And I made the executive decision that I just don't have that in my budget to do that right now. And outside of that, I have work projects that I need to get done. And so I'm going to use that time that I wouldn't have Jackson anyway to fly into Philly and come to Delaware. Oh, great. I can't wait for you to come to Delaware. I got to take you out to see these farm animals. We're going to have a ball. We're going to have a ball. Okay, so the next person said, I accidentally created a group chat with all of my girlfriends except one. It was not on purpose.

I just forgot. She found out when she saw screenshots from the chat. So she blew up saying, I don't consider her a real friend. I apologize, but she keeps bringing it up. Am I the asshole for thinking that she's overreacting? I don't know. I'm like torn on this one. Yeah, I would feel some kind of way about it. I feel like you and I both would feel some type of way about it.

If they're that good of your friend, how do you forget? I'm going to say she's the asshole. I'm going to say she's the asshole because you cannot tell someone how it makes them feel and certain people that is something that would be like really i would be upset if my like i'm thinking about the groups of friends that i have and i would be upset if i don't know me you i don't not not even me and you because we don't have like i'm trying to think um oh i have so emily had a group chat with some of the book club girlies alisa nicole and brenda they had a group chat without me, I was butt hurt. I felt so butt hurt because I'm like, okay, obviously they're

going to talk about a little bit more than just books. Like, that's cool. So when Emily told me that she had a group chat with them, I was like, can you add me to that? And that was for that was for different reasons because she was like, I didn't know if you wanted them to have your phone number. Like she was being like more respectful than anything. But I was like, no, I love them. Like, they can have my phone number. So like, I'm fine to be in a group. So like that's, and if they have another group chat, I don't care. Like, it's what I'm. But I'm trying to think, well, at one point, years ago, it was like me, Quay, Bone, Sterling. Like, they all had a group chat without me.

That was upsetting. I was so upset. Well, one, they only knew each other because of me. So then I was, like, really upset. But we were also really young. That was like 10 years ago. Could you imagine how you would feel if, let's say, me, Kristen, Becky, and Alessandra all had a group chat and then you just like weren't in it.

Do you all have one? No, I swear to God, we don't. If you did, I would be like, fuck you guys. Are you all talking about me? You're talking shit. Kristen hates group chats. I also hate group chats. The only group chats that I'm like truly an active participant in is the coffee

compost group chat with me and Kristen in it. Don't sit here and lie. Do not sit here and lie to these people. you hardly ever respond you and christian i'm saying that's the only one if i'm active in any group chat that is the only one i Kristen said slack me all day like killer network has like slack channels and stuff that is not for me because i just don't have it in me but i have the amount of group chats that i have right now i could tell you i have one two three four five six Seven, eight.

I'm in, besides my kids' sports teams, I have ten group chats. Kristen said Kail is a big group chat fan. I am. Big, big fan. Huge group chat fan. I like wonder, do you guys watch the videos I send in there? Yes. Sometimes you just send a video and it's like, okay, I'm sitting out there watching whatever the fucking video is that you send.

And I'm like, okay, I don't. really need to respond to this because her whole intention was for me to watch it. Yeah. Well, just acknowledge receipt. What did you say to Will? Acknowledge receipt. Acknowledge receipt. Yeah.

For me specifically, and when I get text messages to any of the work group chats, I check it immediately, see if it's important. And if it's not, I mark it is unread. And I never go back. That's my thing is that. Why do you mark it as unread if it's not important? Because I intend to go back. She just never does.

I just don't. I can't stand notifications, so I have intentions of going back, but I'm not unreading it because I don't want the fucking notification. Okay, let's go through actually our notifications right now. We're just talking calls, like miss calls or voicemails, text messages, and emails. How many do you have? I don't know because I turn my little icons off to. So emails, if I go physically go into my email, I have 13 emails that I will most... You and I both have 13 emails.

That's so crazy. And it's between three different emails. So these will all probably get why, like, they're going to get deleted because I don't care. Do you want to know mine? Yes. Okay. On my personal phone, I have 10 missed text messages, 22. missed phone calls like 290 some thousand emails because every email account is linked to my phone

on my work phone I have 131 missed calls 131 on read text messages and my email is 3,143 for all the accounts up to that no thank you that's insane I have 251 miss calls 475 on open text and 13 emails I can't see right now that I've checked my email I now have to delete the two junk ones so those are in junk and then like I just I can't this is not cute for me so now I have no emails okay seasons are changing and I'm going to tell you your makeup routine also should be you should not have the same routine in the summer that you do in the winter time for a multitude of reasons but I have to tell you my latest obsession which would be the Jones Road Beauty Miracle Bomb. I'm telling you to run and check this out. It is so good. This product will naturally enhance your skin

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tantrums there's just something about the wine cry that he does and it's not a real cry it's more of like a wine cry is so irritating it grind your gears yeah like i could be having the best day ever i hear it one time and i'm like that just set me off like i am now in a bad mood for the rest of the day and creed is such a good kid when he's happy and thriving and having the best time he is such a good fucking kid so i would rather elliott roast me for the rest of my life okay i'm going to stick with my first answer have my teenager roast me the teenager that i don't have but roast me on tic-tok yep would you rather your ex new girlfriend follow you on instagram or your current partner's ex show up at your

family cookout. Ooh. Read that again. Would you rather have your ex's new girlfriend follow you on Instagram or your current partner's ex show up at your family cookout? This one's easy for me. I would rather my ex's new girlfriend follow me on social media, which has happened and does happen and did happen.

I also would rather that. At the point that the ex shows up at a barbecue. That's crazy. No, because at that point, I'm going to jail simply for the fact that, one, your family, somebody invited her here. Somebody invited her here. So now I got people with everybody until you tell me who did it. Or two, you're fucking her and she's crazy enough to show up and didn't realize you were in a relationship. So I'm probably going to jail for fucking you up.

I'm going to fuck her up for the audacity. so literally i look at this where it's just like a very clear-cut answer for me if my ex's new girlfriend follows me on instagram that means that you're bothered so like stay bothered because i don't care who follows me on instagram no truly my current partners ex showing up at a family fucking barbecue absolutely not no would you rather get called out in a Reddit thread or roasted on coffee combos by your co-host. Roasted on coffee combos by my co-host. Reddit is the scariest place on earth.

So I want to be roasted on coffee commas podcast. Also, the theories and conspiracies on Reddit are so dangerous that I literally want no involvement of anything with Reddit. And I hate Reddit and I won't go on there. So I would rather be roasted on any podcast. And actually, roast me on the podcast. Actually, the people who are speaking. about me on Reddit. Honestly, come on this podcast and just say it to my face. That's what I've

never really understood. So when I first like found out about like what Reddit even was because the longest time I didn't even know. I thought it was the deep dark web. Like I thought it was like a thing that you weren't supposed to be on. Yep. And then I was like, oh, it has an app. And so I get this app and you start seeing stuff about yourself on there. And it's like that is one of the most toxic things ever. I will never forget when we had Chelsea on the podcast when we were in New York, she was talking about Reddit and how it impacted her mental health so bad that she just like deleted it and never looked at it again. I've never related to that more than now. I won't even look at Reddit. Like if I Google something, because people will tell me rumors about

myself and I'll Google it to be like, what is this a thing? Like this is something that's going around. Any link that shows up that's Reddit, I don't even bother to look at it. because you cannot, like, the sleuths that are on Reddit, yes, there is a lot of good information on there. There's a lot of, like, I think that there's probably good stuff being done on Reddit, but it gets clouded by all the bad stuff. Like, I'm not even clicking on it because at the point that they're so invested in the conspiracy or like the theories that they come up with that are wrong, you know you can't convince people like that to change their mind. So I won't even touch. People are always going to believe whatever they have convinced.

himself is true right so there is just no talking those people out of it it just like believe whatever you want to believe some of this stuff is so far-fetched though and like that's what scares me that like people's minds can like go to a place to where they have made up like this whole theory on somebody's life yeah it's literally happened to me and i'm sure it's happened to you so oh goodness Would you rather have your entire Google history leaked or have to swap phones with your co-host? Swat phones with you? Either one is fine. I don't have anything to high.

I think you'd get a kick out of my phone and like how I, like who texts me and what we talk about. That would be funny. And then we could talk about it on an episode or if you went through my Google, there's not a whole lot of Google. Like I Google like weird stuff. Like I think the last, like I Google. Kale Lowry and her dad. I googled World Cup the wonderful

Dolphins Jersey Lulu. Like there's nothing in here that I would like I couldn't explain. You know what I mean? Okay. So last night there's a lot that I couldn't explain on here. Like

I mean it's really like mostly true crime stuff that is in there. Yeah. Or like if I'm looking like for example i looked at the car wash to see what time it closed or oh well this one's interesting sunday do your nipples hurt during ovulation sometimes yes would you rather

find your partner's venmo history with mystery emojis or their spotify recently played full of breakup songs um venmo okay i will tell you one time I had a girlfriend tell me the best way to find out information about somebody is to look at their Venmo, who they're friends with on Vimmo and the transactions that are on there. And I will tell you, I recently went, I'm not going to say who's Vimmo, but I recently went and looked at someone's Vimmo that I had never looked at before and saw all of the people that they were following. And I went down the entire list and clicked on them and then looked at those people specifically that I had question about on Facebook or tried to find them on

Instagram and also I found it to be very weird that I was told a certain something about one person and there were Venmo transactions with that person with history emojis. See, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. The thing that sucks about Venmo is you can lock it so that it's private for only you and that person. I would. I would rather find their Spotify recently played full of breakup songs because we probably did break up if I was finding that.

So I would rather that. I felt so traumatized truly when I went on to look at the Venmo history and I saw that. It's almost like you go down like a complete spinning cycle. Would you rather your screenshot accidentally get sent back to the person. that you were talking about or your Instagram story meant for close friends go public. My close friends go public. Same. Because that happened to me one time in like 2014 or something and I never want to go back to that place.

Why? Because you just like felt so dysregulated? Yes. And I hate when I'm wrong. you hate when you're wrong yeah no shit no shit keel would you rather get cheated on with someone uglier than you or hotter than you uglier than me for sure see here's the thing when you get cheated on by someone who sleeps with someone that's uglier than you it has nothing to do with you and it maybe doesn't have anything to do with you if they're pretty too but like like all i feel like every girl

It's like, well, if you're going to cheat on me, at least cheat on someone with, you know, cheat on me with someone better than me. And it's like, but you really don't want that. You really don't want them to cheat on someone that's better than you because you're going to probably yeat yourself out the second story window. Like, I have said that. I'm guilty of saying that in the past. But like, no, cheat on someone with someone uglier than me and like just like less of a

human in general, like just a shitty person because one, I know it has nothing to do with me. And two, that's what you think you deserve. so go be with that type of person. Because that's how it always says. Like I will never not say what my therapist told me, which is like twos go with twos, threes go with threes, five go with five. Like I want to see what you think of yourself so I know where to gauge like your ranking because that matters.

Like I'll say it for anyone who's not, who hasn't heard this before or maybe, you know, you want to just remind yourself is like if you're a 10, if you're a 9, 8, any of those numbers and you are with somebody who's a two or a three. And the goal is to bring that two or a three up, that's fine. But you're going to lower yourself down to raise them up. So yes, you're raising them up to a six to a seven, but you've now gone from nine to a seven, your damn self. Now, if you're with somebody who, you know, you're with your match,

there's no pulling them down to your level or you raising up. So you're, you ultimately end up with yourself. you're going to cheat with someone that is more on your level. Coffee Convo's podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. I have a question for all of you. Who do you go to in order to solve life's problems? If it's the group chat, is it maybe oversharing with strangers, or the tail as old as time, going to your hairstylist and treating them as your therapist?

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betterh-E-L-P.com slash coffee. I do believe that to be true. I thought that was so interesting when you first told me about that because I had never thought of it in that way. One time someone attempted to cheat on me. But like they didn't successfully do it. Okay. But, okay, so here's a little story time.

So this person had been like Instagram messaging this girl. Okay. and they had met this person at a place that we were as a couple. And then the girl starts messaging him. He's messaging back and forth. They're talking about activities and, you know, like all of these things, like things that they like to do and whatever. Like, it truly felt like I'm trying to get to know this person because I might cheat.

Right? I'm crying. I'm like, I need some. space. I don't know how to react to this. Like, I never saw this coming from you. Understand that, like, you didn't cheat, but somewhat emotionally, like, in these messages, you are. Like, at the point that it's inappropriate, like, it's still some level of betrayal. Yeah. And truly, for me, that almost hurt worse than if he would have physically done something, maybe in a drunken state, right? Like, that, the,

emotional part for me was what got me. So I try to repair this situation and I'm like, you know what? He didn't actually physically, you know, cheat. He explained the situation. I kind of understand it. Was trying to be nice to the person. Blah, blah, blah. Tell me why when we actually broke up that this person was hanging out with this girl in friend groups, like not solo, but hanging out with this girl in friend groups and riding around in her fucking minivan. See, but that's the, it's always the ones that are like, don't worry about her. Like, I would never, I don't like her. That's not my type.

And then it's always the ones that they tell you not to worry about. I know. And it's like there, have you ever been in a situation where someone has cheated on you and you look at the person and, and I don't want to be like judging the other person, right? Like, that's not what it's about. but inevitably you do look at the other person and you're like okay there are actually zero similarities between me and that other person like personality wise completely different looks like completely different people that don't truly have some type of type scare me

I don't have a type but that scares me and it should um no and I'm speaking from like old kale like toxic today I'm not I have no business cheating I got too much shit going on. I'm not cheating. But in my, in the time that I was, um, a cheater and doing shady shit is like, I didn't really have a type. It was just medium ugly. And usually it's the ones that I thought that other girls didn't want. So you would think that they like, were safe. Yeah. And then, you know, I would always, yeah, I just had a horrible picker. But no, I mean, I would, I could see, because you just don't know who are you looking out for. Like if you don't, if they have a type, who are you looking out for? Yeah. No, I can I can understand that. Someone who would date

me would absolutely know if they had a reason to look out for something. They would know know exactly what they were looking for. Okay, would you rather show up in the background of your ex's engagement photos or be in the background of your enemy's viral TikTok? Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Neither. Because that's never going to be neither of those situations are never going to play out well i'm going to go with the tic-tok i'm going to go with the background of my ex's engagement photos like that's not really my problem because it's not my engagement because the other one is definitely my problem oh man neither one is a good scenario

okay would you rather have to get matching tattoos with your kids fathers or have them pick your next partner get matching tattoos and did i have a matching tattoo with one of my ex he covered his which is fine um tattoos you're not picking my next partner because if they're anything like you i left for a reason you have multiple exes that would pick themselves truly truly right next one would you rather have to explain your kid to your kids teachers that you accidentally packed them a white claw in their lunchbox or why your mugshot was leaked on the internet. I would rather explain the white claw.

I would rather explain the white claw. I would rather explain the white claw because I feel like that is just like my story of like being at Wawa and like waiting for Lincoln when he was at school the whole time is like that was such a brain fart. And I feel like that's so much, like I don't want a mugshot at all. So on that note we have foul play okay am i the school okay valet play hey ladies listening since day one this summer my hubby and i got invited to go golfing with another couple we rarely get out and this was our first time golfing so i was excited and since i don't get out much as a mom i ordered a cooler of high noons so by whole 15 or so i had to peece so bad i knew we had passed an outside bathroom thing so we took the cart back I was seriously in pain from how bad I had to pee. To my disappointment, the women's doors, the women's door was locked.

Although I knocked and no one was in there, I just, it was just locked. The men's door was unlocked, so I went in. It was so nasty in there. It was an outside bathroom pot, no ventilation. The toilet was filled to the brim with shit, and it smelled so awful. Under normal circumstances, I would have never used this restroom and just held it, but I could not hold it. So I decided to pee on top of all of the gross men's diarrhea. I just piss on the cement instead as far away from that toilet as possible.

She said, and I mentioned I was wearing a cute one-piece jumper outfit. So I had to take the whole thing off, including my underwear and hold my clothes in my hand. I had to squat butt-ass naked with nothing but my socks and tennis shoes and piss all over the floor. Well, I didn't have to, but I was about to sit on that shitty toilet and wrist poop getting on getting backslashed on me. It was quite a sight. I was laughing, thinking how insane I looked. When you think of golfers, you probably don't think of how I looked in the outside bathroom. Love you ladies.

Okay, number one. She did the right thing. What else was she supposed to do? Number one, this is literally why I will never wear a romper like out and about anymore. Like if I'm going to a dinner or something like that, I might wear a romper to a dinner. But for reasons like this, I will not. Like, if you think I'm going out with my friends on a Friday night and I'm wearing a romper, absolutely not. everything is all fun in games until you're naked in a stall trying to go the bathroom when

you're wearing a romper 1,000% also I am more likely I don't shit myself but I am more likely to pee myself and I was going to a cabin last weekend and we were in the middle of nowhere and I had to pee so I was like I am going to pee myself like I'm going to pee myself like and I'm trying to do that thing where it's like okay don't think about peeing don't think about me like you've got this no no i should not have um i should not have done that because i did peeve myself a little bit in my pants and i also made him pull his truck over on the side of the road and i just squat yeah just sit on the runner the runner board thing just sit on that right i didn't think about that yeah if you have a vehicle that has like the runner board thing on the side it's so

much easier to get your pee where you want it to go when you're sitting on that then when you're squatting it's a free for all it might run down your leg it might go out forward like you just never know. So if you sit there like it's a toilet, it will, it'll aim better. You know what I mean? Why do I feel like you've told me this before and I didn't do it? And you're acting like this is the first time you've heard it. I don't know.

I'm not sure. I don't either. But you know what? I don't know if it's like growing up in the South or growing up in the sticks. But my grandparents always used to pull like their little Cadillac over to the side of the road. Let us get out. Nanny would check our butt holes for like chickers and stuff.

And I learned how to be a professional swatter. so I never have to sit on a toilet and I think that that is such a hidden talent that no that is it must be amazing to be God's favorite because anytime I've tried to squat to pee it runs down my leg so and if I have pants on obviously I can only pull them forward but it's going to get on my actual pant leg so I've never been able to actually successfully squat people's pee I do think it's harder for like some people because some people's pee is not like a straight line you know what i mean yeah you know men sometimes have that problem like where it'll come out of like it shoots out like in a line so it goes in two different so like

i've heard sometimes men sit on the toilet in the middle of the night because they don't want they don't know how they're going to aim and make it in the toilet without turning the lights on so they just sit in the dark okay so are you the type of person that you're going to wait until the very last minute to get up like you're only getting up to pee if you're you're about to pee yourself. Like, are you holding it or getting up? In the night? Mm-hmm.

No, I'm getting up to go pee. No, I'm holding it. Because I do not want to be uncomfortable. No, I'm holding it. I don't care how uncomfortable that I become. I'm not getting up. That's number one. Number two, if I do get up, the lights going on.

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