Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Am I a Chihuahua?!
Episode Date: February 29, 2024CC336: If Lindsie and Kail were dogs, which breed would they be? Two people have mentioned Chihuahua and Kail doesn't know how to feel about it. Lindsie gives the latest updates on the mother-daughter... who were raped during a Carnival cruise. Lindsie also brings up a story on a funeral home getting busted for improper care of dead bodies (don't ask us how Lindsie finds these stories..)Foul Play stories this week include spicy vibrators, and farting in a VERY inconvenient time. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month The Farmer’s Dog: Get 50% off your first box, plus free shipping at TheFarmersDog.com/coffeeconvos Kiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEE Progressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more!
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I hate gift giving and receiving.
Receiving gifts is so weird.
What do you say, thank you?
This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.
I really want you to be in your feels, Kale.
That does not interest me whatsoever.
I feel very attacked by you.
A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship,
family, and life in the public eye.
I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
There's a fakery bakery around here.
Here's Kale and Lindsay.
Are we recording? Yeah.
Good morning and welcome back to Coffee Combo's podcast. Good morning Kailin. Good morning. I'm just trying the Dream Float, the new one by Elani. I don't like it. I love it. Do you like
cream sickles? Yes.
I hate a cream sickle, like more than anything.
Or like the push pops, aren't they cream sickles?
I don't like push pops.
I'm pretty sure they're cream sickles too.
And I absolutely hate those.
It's like the last things in the fridge that I would get,
like only if I was like starving for a popsicle.
Yes.
Imagine starving for a popsicle.
I was watching this video of things that like Americans say that's different from the British
and I was howling last night laying in my bed by myself and they said they showed pictures
of these popsicles and it's like Americans call them popsicles and the British call them
lollipops and I just wonder like why everything makes more sense in the UK.
They also, Australians call, I have a girlfriend who is in Australia and she has three children
and she said that they call them nappies and I have diapers. She was like, you have several
more years in nappies. Wait for their diapers are called nappies.
What?
Elijah yesterday got confused in Australian accent with a British accent. And I was like, I know that you have bourbon outside the country, but damn.
But really quickly, before we get into today's episode, I just wanted to ask you,
what type of breed of dog do you think you are and what type of breed do you think that I am?
And then I'm going to tell you what Elijah and Kristen said about me in unison in two different
places at the same like literally at the same time. I think that I am a weenie dog. A what?
A weenie dog. Why? They're mean. I know. Well, let me clarify because I know all the doxin lovers are going to attack me, but
when I was in pet grooming and I was the animal bather, doxins were mean.
Okay. I grew up with them and our doxins were not mean.
Like, my mom had them always. She was a Dachshund lover.
And we had this one Dachshund name buddy
that I actually saved from the flea market.
And-
The flea market?
Yeah, and if anybody is from the South,
they're gonna like very much relate to this.
Like in your small town, you typically have a flea market
and you can buy like a booth or a table
and go there and sell stuff and all the local people
come and they have like a pet part they have a part where you can find like all like the latest
gadgets like fidget spinners and like all the things that are like popular. So this is like our
Amish markets. Do they have like rugs and stuff too? Yeah,
because the Amish market that we have, like people can get boosts and do the same thing.
So it's probably a flea market too. But I know it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it's kind of
like, it sounds similar to that. And I was always a pet lover growing up. I don't know
what happened like, in my older part of my life,
but I always wanted pets and specifically dogs.
So I always wanted to go to the park
that had the animals at the flea market
and you could go in and see.
There was breeders there,
but then there were also people there
that were selling or giving away dogs
that happened by accident.
So this one little dog I saw, I could not get over him.
He was actually a Chowini.
He was not like a standard Doxin.
And I wanted him so bad, I cried and cried and cried.
So my mom finally went and got her checkbook
and she was like, fine, we'll just like get the dog.
So we get the dog, bring it home,
and a couple of days it starts shitting blood
everywhere. And I was scared. And I was like, Oh God, he's going to get in trouble. So I'm
just going to like clean it up and not say anything. But then like this happened a couple
of times and it was like blood and mucus. And so I finally told my mom, I was like something,
something's wrong with buddy, like we've got to get him help. Do you know that this dog probably was like
$200 at the flea market ended up spending at least that a day for an entire week on vet bills
because the dog had some virus called coxidia and
almost died and I was so connected to him and he was
So sweet we had other Winnie dogs before that. They were the sweetest dogs ever to mischievous but sweet. So I
don't understand like this mean thing that we need dogs get
like,
it might just be at the it just might be at the groomer.
Like it might just like personally, when I worked in the
grooming salon, didn't have good experiences with Dobermans. I
fucking loved Dobermans. Like Doberman and
typically Rottweilers have like a bad rap there. Like there was never really Rottweilers that were
like good for me there but I've only had like real good experiences without Rottweilers. So I think
it really just depends. Also like I have King Corsos and Buddha hates getting his nails done but
he's the sweetest dog on the planet. So like he's not going to be nice to someone doing his nails.
You know what I mean?
You know, it's so weird.
You have never complained to me about Buddha, but your other dogs.
I used to hear about all the time.
Because Buddha is a saint.
He's literally an angel on this earth and he's bare reincarnated
and then also something extra.
I don't know.
I love it.
So you're a meaner dog.
So you're a doxin.
You think you're a doxin and you think you're a doxin,
and what do you think I am?
Cause I'm certainly not a golden retriever.
No, I don't think you're a golden retriever,
I think you're a raw wiler.
Bad rap, sweet in real life,
literally is what you just told me.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll take that.
Kristen and Elijah, so I was on the phone with Kristen. Elijah was on the phone with his best
friend. Literally, first of all, shout out to twist he faced cold
face times. Elijah was like, what type of dog do y'all think
y'all are? And he's country as hell. And we're like, what? And I
was like, what Kristen, what type of dog do you think I am? And
in unison, Elijah is on the couch, Kristen's on the phone, and
they're like, you're a Chihuahua. And I'm like, me?
I'm a Chihuahua?
Wait, but explain why they think that.
I'll all bark, no bite.
I don't know.
Like truly I have no fucking clue.
But I don't think you're all bark, no bite.
No, I'm bite.
Yeah.
You're like an ankle biter.
Don't ask Christian because,
oh, let me see if she's in the chat.
She's probably not paying attention
to my dumb ass. I need an explanation as to like why they think that no bite. No bite. Just want
really wants love. I can't y'all to be fair. Kristen's favorite, like most loved animal is her chawa was her chawa her late chawa. So I feel like
very loved by this. Yeah. Yeah. Kristen says, no bite just
really wants love loves to be with her people takes a shit ton of
abuse. I mean, it's a bad rap.
I get it. Chawa was listen, nobody start coming for us for
saying stuff about like breeds of dogs
because I really don't care what you have.
Chihuahuas, eyes freak me out.
I haven't, the only Chihuahuas I've truly been around are Christians.
They're like bulgy and stuff.
I don't really remember Chihuahuas coming into the grooming salon very much.
Like I really, I really don't.
What's there really to groom?
Right.
And so unless they're like a lot, well, I guess nails because because I was a bather,
I also did anal glands and nails.
So yeah, I remember that story.
Anyway, moving on.
Wait, I have to show you this before we move on from from dogs.
I get a text from Jackson last night whenever I was recording for the Southern Tea and normally I don't record late at night ever for anything. And so it typically was a time that I
would talk to him but he sends a text mom please call. And I'm like this could not be good.
This is the photo I get after the bomb police call. Do you see Georgia?
Is she full of mud and just like a mess?
No.
Will, I'm going to show you another photo in a second.
The dogs are coming to my house on Thursday because Will is now traveling more for work.
Did I tell you this?
No.
Yeah.
So he took another position with work and he is now going to be traveling a lot more.
So our schedule is not going to be as consistent as what it once was and we're just like trying to figure out that situation.
So his parents live like an hour and 45 minutes away and I told him I was like,
it doesn't really make sense for your parents to have to like drive to get the dogs or for you to drive to take them to them just send the dogs to my house
with Jackson kind of solves a lot of problems. So I go and drop off an Amazon package at Will's I see come to the door was this.
Oh.
I screamed.
I see Diana at the grooming salon, that wasn't me.
I screamed.
Like wait, because I thought it looked like a skunk
that like was coming out.
The tail has not been touched at all.
It's just like, and I'll post a photo of this for you guys,
but it's like a large fluffy tail on Della. And then the rest of the body is skin. And because of
her aging, the front part of her face is turning white. So she legitimately looked like a skunk.
So then I get the mom, please call text from Jackson and then the photo of Georgia. And I'm
like, what the fuck is your dad doing over there?
So I send Will a text after I get like wrapped up with everything and I'm like, Hey, what
are you doing?
Cause I didn't really want to like,
He's like, explaining the dog.
Narc on Jackson to be like, I got this photo of the dogs looking crazy and he just texts
me back and he goes, sorry, I was sleeping when you text.
Well, you must have got fucking exhausted from using those clippers. But oh, he did it. He did it. Oh my God. Will, what are we doing here?
He did it. And I need to know how many other people feel comfortable like shaving and clipping
their own dogs. Like I would be terrified. Like I don't clip my own hair so I'm not gonna clip my own dogs. I will say this just with experience I it's the most
inconvenient errand I guess or like responsibility to take your dog to and
from the groomer or to and from you know wherever you have to get their nails
done and stuff so if there's a mobile groomer if you're thinking about getting
a dog and you have look up mobile groom done and stuff. So if there's a mobile groomer, if you're thinking about getting a dog
and you have a look up mobile groomers
that come to your house,
because that is the like just absolute convenience.
When I had a mobile groomer when Georgia was over here,
the best part is they just show up at your door
and you send the dog out and then they get finished
and they send her back in.
Yep, because it's just, it's so easy.
And like even with my dog bath, if they needed to,
they could bathe my dogs right here in this dog bath
and then send and then just do their nails
because I have short hair dogs.
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Okay.
So tell me what you were going to tell me before I had to continue.
Well, so remember last week when you were telling me about the women on the cruise that
went on their mother getaway?
Yes.
So...
I have updates for that by the way.
Good.
I was gonna ask you.
Also, because that was on a Carnival cruise, if I remember correctly.
So me just doing my little internet scrolling, I come across an article about Carnival,
which I have never, I don't think I've ever done Carnival.
I did one cruise and it was Symphony of the Seas,
which I think is like the biggest ship in the world
or like was the biggest ship.
Anyway, it says, Carnival cancels a woman's ticket
and refused to refund her because she was 26 weeks pregnant.
Wait, what?
So I wanted to get your thoughts on this.
So, okay, I know from being pregnant so many times,
I've looked into cruises as an option
when friends didn't have passports,
passports were expired, et cetera, et cetera.
So I knew from looking up that, you know,
there are limits to getting on cruise ships
when you're pregnant,
like how far along you can be and things
like that. Okay. Do we give this woman some grace for her not
knowing? Because I mean, we know as adults, like we're in our
30s. Now people don't read it could be blatantly in red, bold
lettering across the fucking screen and people still don't
listen. They don't read they don't. Also, we don't know if
this was a gift. Maybe someone gifted it to her and she didn't
think anything of it. It's 26 weeks. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's less likely than
36 weeks. I could see what... You don't want to refund her. Can you give her a credit for
a later time? I can't understand why Carnival would not refund her.
I can't understand why Carnival would not refund her. So there's two sides of this, right?
Because if we were Carnival owners,
we would be like, well, the disclosure's there
and that was your fault
and now you're costing us not only time,
but like we don't want to deal with this.
I can understand that from like a business perspective,
but from a consumer perspective,
if she booked a ticket, she really didn't know about it,
thought she was gonna be able to go,
and then can't go because of the policy,
you would think that it would kind of be
like a voucher type situation where whatever
the value of her ticket was, she could use on another cruise
after she's not pregnant anymore.
Right. So it says, um,
Robin booked a three day cruise around Australia for her daughter as a birthday
gift. Um, but she was denied boarding because she was more than 24 weeks
pregnant.
You would think the rules are the same as flying is what it's,
that's what she said. She said,
you'd kind of think that the rules are the same for cruising as it is for flying
which does make sense to me yeah that does make sense I don't most airlines
allow pregnant passengers to fly up to 36 weeks along so in that in that
regard because it was again it was gifted so you're not thinking to check
also if I I mean I have seven, and I would think that too.
If I didn't know because I looked it up,
you would think that, okay, if you can fly at the airline's
discretion up to 36 weeks, you would think it would be the
same for cruising.
But I will say on the flip side of that,
you're on a flight for a short time,
not necessarily for three days.
Well, I was gonna say, maybe they're not confident in the proper medical care being on the necessarily for three days. So... Well, I was going to say, maybe they're not confident in the proper medical care being
on the water for, you know, three days. I don't really know. I'm just saying there's
two sides of the coin on that. There's the business side of it and then the consumer
side. And I can see both and policy is policy, unfortunately.
Well, she said that. But I didn't know that this woman was like
trying to get on the ship and then was denied access. I didn't know that it went that far.
Yeah. And then it says that she spent $2,000 Australian dollars, which is like 1300 American.
And Carvel told her she would not receive a refund. So I just don't know. Okay. So this
was their statement. Crew ships are not equipped with facilities to deal with prenatal and early infant care.
The policy is outlined on both the Carnival website
and within the crew's contract.
But Carnival declined to comment for this story.
I don't know, I just feel like,
hey, I know this was a gift.
I'm so sorry that you were gifted at this time.
Here's a voucher.
Like that's the, who knows, they might never book again. And then it's like, you still got the money. So I just feel like in that regard,
because it was a gift, I just feel like it's one of those things that, you know, just,
I don't know, I feel like it's a negative press. I feel like a voucher should have been the remedy
for that situation all together. For sure. Like that would have been an easy fix. Speaking of
travel though, and then I'm going to give you these updates on the women from
the Bahamas situation.
I have been watching all of these TikToks and it's freaking me out.
And I don't know if it's because I live in Atlanta that it's like pulling all of this
stuff, but it's all these Delta flights like having these problems and having to go back.
I haven't seen it at all.
So it must be because you're in Atlanta.
I haven't seen it at all. You it must be because you're in Atlanta. I haven't seen it at all.
You haven't seen any of these TikToks?
So it's like, what is it, the people that talk?
Like air traffic control?
Oh, mm-hmm.
It's like them, and then they are talking
to the people on the plane,
and there were multiple flights coming from Atlanta,
and it was Delta flights.
And one of them was like our engines down
like we're coming back and they were,
it was showing like the map of them traveling around
and then the release of the audio of them
talking to air traffic control.
They were saying like how many people were on the flight?
Was there any infants?
Was there any pregnant people?
Like all of this stuff.
And I've never seen TikToks or anything like this
about any of this stuff before.
And then they just automatically started
showing up on my feed.
I mean, flip side to this too.
It's like, it's scary scary but it's also like at
least they have good air traffic controllers and communicators and
people who are paying attention to the things that they need to be paying
attention to so that they do come back and they don't go too far or whatever at
least they're returning safely but it's also scary because with all of that
happening what if someone what if something does get missed?
That's scary.
I was freaking out laying in my bed watching this.
I was like, oh, God, please say that you have.
I mean, I was invested.
I was like, oh, God, lady, please say that you have enough
fuel to get back.
Like how far did you guys make it?
This is absolutely terrifying.
Just please tell me also, like why the main engine
of the plane just went out?
And could you imagine being a person on that flight?
Oh, by the way, like our engine went out.
No.
I would hyperventilate.
I watched a, I don't know if I would call it a conspiracy theory.
I think it's just something that they were exploring.
I watched this video about, um, allegedly video about allegedly they found like radio frequency
evidence and a body that could have been Amelia Earhart and her co-pilot. And there was like
evidence that she her plane went down and like part of it went in the water. And so when the water like, when the tide went out,
she was able to like turn the radio on
to like try to send for help.
And then when the water would like come back up,
she wouldn't be able to like ask for help.
And so they would go, I don't know,
I'll send you the video if I can go back and find it.
But similar to that, it's like,
did you run out of fuel?
Like what happened?
One time, many, many moons ago, I dressed up as Amelia Earhart for
school.
Oh, okay. I love that for you.
I love that you love that for me. Okay, so I have updates on the
mother's assaulted on the cruise. Okay. So I'm just gonna give you
like, run by run of what I read and then what I watched. So
it was said that the women took a shuttle from their carnival cruise to the Pirate's Cove Beach
getaway where they received two for one drinks. They were allegedly looking for seashells and
the video was a little unclear that I watched. If there was two, I said possibly three employees of the resort were involved.
And then there were photos, I believe it was News Nation had photos of these women's legs
with significant amount of bruising like on their feet and all up and down their legs.
They said that they were denied access to carnival doctors
or a US doctor and that they were not given a rape kit
and that they were told to use the bathroom
and the toilet paper was collected as a specimen.
The carnival crews and the resort have come out
saying that these women basically made this story up.
They released a statement that there are 16 cameras
that are located around the beach facility and the cameras did not line up with a story that
the women were sharing. They reviewed all of the footage and then turned it over to local authorities.
A couple of timestamps that I think are important in this story is according to the resort that
women arrived at the resort at 8 a.m. from the
Carnival Cruise and at 8 24 a.m. they were greeted by the staff. They also said
at 9 40 a.m. one of these women met up with one of the accused on the beach and
by 10 0 6 a.m. they claimed that the camera shows the woman was walking arm
in arm with one of the accused on the beach where the incident occurred. The
resort said that they did provide emergency medical services, but the women declined it
and also signed a waiver and that they were given rape kits to bring on to the cruise ship,
which was a little odd to me. I don't know if that is because they denied the emergency
medical care that they just gave those to them. I'm not really
sure about that. It was a little unclear. But there was toxicology done and they tested
for very little alcohol in their system, so little that it wouldn't even be considered
drunk by standards. But they did test positive for cocaine, meth, and benzos. So I wanna get your thoughts on.
Let me Google something really quick
because I don't know how long those types of things
stay in your system.
So how long does meth stay in your system?
God, I hope no one ever subpoenas my phone.
It says help is available and doesn't give me an answer.
Because I think this is gonna, it's gonna determine how I feel about this. I don't know,
it's not really giving, they're not really giving me answers.
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So video footage of one of the women walking
hand in hand on the beach with one of the accused
Doesn't sway my opinion either way other than confirming and corroborating the story that they were being taken to CC shells
Okay, there's nothing to me. There's nothing wrong with that
Where I have a problem and where I'm concerned I guess is okay
So you're telling me these women made this up for what
was their end game here, okay?
And then also, where did the bruises come from then?
That was my biggest thing because, and I will make sure that this video that I watched and
all the photos I saw and everything is posted to the Instagram and Facebook pages, but where
would the bruises come from? These were very significant bruising.
This was not like, Oh, she knocked her kneecap on a
dresser.
Like this was like, Oh, I'll, I'll bring, I'll put these bruises
on myself for proof. Like these were not good. These were
really ugly bruises.
Also, Benzo's meth and cocaine,
that's a crazy combination.
I don't know that a mother's getaway, these two moms.
Like are they really gonna do that themselves?
Like they're just, the two of them
are just gonna take those drugs on their own?
I just feel like-
If you and I went on a cruise together
or any type of vacation together as a mom
trip and you said, hey, let's take these drugs and fake a rape or something, I would be like,
have you lost your fucking mind?
I would call Chris on you if you did that.
You're like, take the kids away right now.
Yeah, like this bitch has lost her mind.
I can't imagine two moms just deciding to go on a mom trip and then doing that.
Like I just, that doesn't see, and then like, it's one of those things where it's like,
what is it, the only secrets that are kept is when one of the people is dead.
Like, one of them is bound to crack and I just can't imagine like two people and you're hoping
that that person doesn't tell the truth
and then I'm hoping,
and they're hoping that I don't tell the truth.
Like I just, that doesn't feel right to me.
Like I just don't think that that makes sense.
The bruising that I saw from the photos
from the legs looks consistent with assault.
Yeah.
My concern is for what reasons did they deny
the medical attention and sign a waiver
to deny the medical attention?
Because I don't know, maybe it's when you are actively
in that situation, maybe you're scared
and maybe they were just like waiting to get back on the cruise ship to try to get help.
And that's why they didn't want to have the medical attention there at their resort, but they signed a waiver.
The nurse that treated them said, quote, it was bad.
I'm traumatized from it and deal with and I deal with things like this.
She says, you can't make up puking everywhere and trembling and being scared to death.
That's not something that you just make up.
I don't believe that these women,
I don't know them from Adam, right?
But just based off of the facts that we do know
and what they have said, I don't believe this is made up.
No, I think carnival and whatever resort this is,
they're trying to save face because the press that you would get from this
and the essentially PR crisis that you're getting from this
is you're gonna try to save face.
There's no fucking way.
You can't convince me otherwise.
I just, when there's proof or one of these women cracks,
I don't think they made it up.
And I would believe that this resort and carnival would try to cover tracks
because if that is like a normal stop where carnival stops, then they're making a lot
of money off of tourists there. And they're going to think twice before wanting this to
be out because people are going to think twice about booking that cruise. So yeah, I would
agree with you. I just can't. And the men that were accused of this are still being held by Bohemian authorities.
They also were fired because of an alleged no-tolerance policy. Well, if you have a no tolerance policy and they were fired, then isn't that un-said admission
that something did in fact happen?
This is why rape victims and sexual assault victims, and I hate even using the word victims,
this is why they don't come forward because they're not believed and they're treated like
they're the problem and I
just can't like wrap my head around that. 100%. It is honestly scary to me that a
big company like Carnival, if they're trying to cover tracks like this, that is
absolutely terrifying. Somebody sent me a message saying that there were, you know, other travel advisories for
other countries too. I mean, obviously, I was just saying on the last episode that if you are
traveling, a lot of things like this are not predictable things, you know, anything can happen
anywhere. Yeah. And I don't believe that this was like any type of gang-related activity that would have
been a part of the travel advisory to the Bahamas in the first place.
Right.
However, I do still stand by, you need to do your research before you go traveling somewhere
and also this makes me absolutely terrified to even do a girl's trip. Like I told you, I don't travel by myself.
I will not travel by myself.
And unless I know that I was going somewhere like super,
super safe and secluded, like I'm not gonna choose
to go to a resort out of the country
with a bunch of girls.
I've heard too many things.
Would I maybe go to an Airbnb in Florida
with a bunch of girls, like in a controlled environment
where we weren't around other people?
Yes, but at a resort in another country,
I've just heard too many things happen.
It's, I mean, it's scary to think about.
I do travel alone.
I've taken the kids to Mexico by myself.
No nanny, no help, no nothing.
So I fully understand what's going on.
But my question to you, now that you have a daughter,
do you have different concerns for her
that you would have for your boys?
I guess I haven't thought about that yet,
just because she's still so little,
but now that you've brought it up,
I think that that's something that I, and I hate that it's a double standard, right?
Like I hate that I could, I feel like I could trust, you know, Lincoln or Lux, even Isaac
really.
I mean, I know Isaac, because Isaac is a softy at heart too.
I do feel like they would be less targeted than my daughter.
And knowing that my daughter will wanna go on girls trips
or wanna go on a senior trip,
like that double standard is like,
how do you even explain it?
Like you can't,
cause you don't wanna like conform to it,
but like you also wanna protect your kids.
So like, what does that even look like?
It's so crazy.
So remember the Natalie Holloway case?
Yeah.
So that was like very, very widely talked about
whenever I was in high school.
And because of that, my parents were like,
you are not going anywhere out of the country
on any senior trip.
Like we will take you somewhere,
but you aren't going with friends anywhere
because anything can happen.
And I used to get so pissed at my parents
for being helicopters.
Like, why won't you let me go here?
Like everybody's going here.
Everybody's doing this stuff.
But now looking back on it,
and once I became a parent,
I don't think until I became a mom, did I understand
the fear because I had never loved in that capacity.
And then once I became a mother, I'm like, okay, now I understand why they felt the way
they felt and they didn't want me going to do any of these things.
It was for protection of myself and they were protecting me as my parents, that's your job.
I just felt like it was a bit extreme,
but now when I read all of these news stories
being a parent myself, I'm like,
okay, that all totally makes sense
and why they would make those decisions.
Right.
Yeah, no, I-
What is the line though?
What is the line?
Like what is too much and what is like not enough?
I'm thinking of like
a senior trip and I'm like I'll be at the hotel two doors down. Like I'll be in the hotel. I won't
let your friends know I'm here but I will be in this hotel and that's for all my kids not just my
daughter. Oh yeah. Um my did you guys ever go on like an eighth grade trip? No. Isaac went on a seventh grade trip to like an amusement park. So we went on
an eighth grade trip to Savannah, Georgia, and it was like an overnight thing, stayed in a hotel.
And I'm shocked shitless that like my parents even let me go, but it was a part of our curriculum.
So interesting. Yeah, we did this and we went to like these Civil War museums like all all different kinds of stuff in Savannah, Georgia and
They allowed me to go but you better bet your ass that my dad was calling all of those teachers
Up at that school finding out, you know, like how do we know that these girls are safe in these rooms?
You know, they they put tape on the outside of the door so if it was broken, the teachers.
They would know you slept out.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it was very strict and nobody did anything bad.
I don't know if they would have let me go on that trip
had I been in high school though.
Yeah, I guess I can see.
Yeah, I mean, I went on, when I was in sixth grade,
we went to this campground.
We stayed in cabins and it was like-
Wait, what?
Yeah.
The campground.
Yeah, it was like,
I would imagine they did like summer camps there
in the summertime, but there was like cabins
and it was a really cool experience.
Like as in sixth grade, like we got to go repelling
off of a cliff, we got to do really cool stuff.
I don't know, I highly doubt they would ever allow schools around here to do something like that today. But it was a really cool
field trip and it was overnight. It was really cool, but that was like in my near my hometown.
So that was like a town of 4,000 people. Like, you know what I mean? Like it was such a small
town. It was such a small like, and I don't remember how far away it was from the small, from like that hometown,
but or how far away it is from that town.
But it was not like Atlanta where it's like huge, you know?
Or like, Savannah, Georgia, you know?
So it was just a different times, I guess, different place.
I was just sitting with one of my girlfriends.
Her son was baptized this weekend and I went
to church and then like lunch with their family.
It's kind of like my extended family.
They're not really my family, but my chosen family.
And went to lunch and they were talking about prom.
And she was like, we're not having this conversation at this table right now.
She was like, all I'm telling you is you're not driving to downtown Atlanta with your friends. We will have this conversation at a later time. Like I don't feel safe with
you. You guys have never really like driven roads like that. You've never been to the
city of Atlanta without adults. You don't, you don't need to do that. We'll have the
conversation later. And it made me think of my parents.
I'm like, my parents did not let me do shit.
And I'm like, is that why I'm still alive?
I don't know because my mom didn't care
and I was doing all kinds of shit and I'm alive.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I always say that I live vicariously through
all the things that you've done. Like I don't have to do them vicariously through all the things that you've done.
I don't have to do them because I know about all the things that you have done.
Yeah.
I mean, we're both here.
We're both thriving.
So I don't know.
I don't know if it was maybe the location or what.
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Okay, I have to tell you something that came up in the Facebook group and I
latched on to it immediately.
And this is not new news, but I don't know if you've ever seen it was the
first time that I ever saw it.
And, um, the article that I found was from AP news and it says remains of at least 189
And the article that I found was from AP News. And it says, remains of at least 189 people were removed from Colorado funeral home up
from 115 officials say.
It says the remains of at least 189 people have been removed from a Colorado funeral
home from an initial estimate of about 115 when the decaying and unproperly
stored bodies were discovered.
The remains were found by authorities responding to a report of like the smell.
And it was inside a decrepit building and it was about 100 miles south of Denver.
All the remains were removed from the site, but officials say the
number could change again as the identification process continues. It says the update count
comes as family who did business with a funeral home grows increasingly concerned about what
happened to their deceased loved ones. Local officials say they will again notifying family
members in the coming days as the remains are identified. These people were doing some crazy
shit. So it says that the owners of this funeral home had missed tax payments in recent months
and were evicted from one of their properties and were sued for unpaid bills by the crematory that quit doing business with them.
And then after the odor was reported,
then there was something going on
about improper concealing of corpses.
And there was some claims by taxidermy,
like all kinds of stuff, right?
So these people were doing like crypto
and all kinds of shit.
Have you read this article?
No, I'm disgusted because I just,
first of all, there's so much money in funeral homes
and that whole field because at some point everyone dies.
So at some point everyone needs, whether you're cremated, whether you're buried in a casket,
no matter what you have to, usually you have to use a funeral service, right?
Of some sort, no matter what way out you choose.
So there's so much money.
I can't, like this brings me back to everything that we talk about with like
two murderers to psychopaths like finding like minded people that are just as corrupt
as you is crazy because is there not at least one person that is right in their mind that's
like hey this isn't right we need to correct this hey this isn't right that we need to do
x y and z like I can't I don't it's hard for me to wrap my head around this.
I was having a conversation with somebody like not too long ago about just funeral homes
in general and they've always given me the heebie GBS.
I mean, I don't like funerals.
I don't like dead anything.
Gives me the heebie GBS, but but the fact that people can do stuff like this couple did,
it said that these were eco-friendly funeral services, but the money was spent by this
couple on cars, crypto, and designer jewelry while these bodies were rotting.
Here's an idea.
Sacrifice for the first little while of getting into your business.
Pay your fucking business bills, and more money will come in while of getting into your business, pay your fucking business bills,
and more money will come in so you can keep your business
and have designer items.
Like, I don't understand how people don't get that.
It says that they splurged on cryptocurrency,
lavish trips to Las Vegas and California,
and four figure spending sprees at Tiffany and Co and Gucci a GMC
Yukon XL and an Infinity SUV
But you could have that if you just like paid your bills and like did what you were supposed to do with your business
You could have that tenfold you get my understanding
and I
Always tell Jackson this all the time. I feel like kids do everything to try to like buck the system
and get away with doing less,
but they're actually doing more
while thinking that they're doing less.
I'm like the time that you spent trying to avoid
doing that piece of homework,
you could have just had it done,
gotten the grade and got gotten the grade, and...
Moved on.
Got the grade, like, that's it.
Yeah.
Like, all of the time that you spent trying to avoid doing that assignment, what are you
doing?
So it's like the same concept, right?
Like, if you just do what you're supposed to do, and you're honest about it, this kind
of shit doesn't happen.
Just like don't like you went through all of that schooling.
You opened a business, a very lucrative business.
Because people are always going to die.
And you afforded yourself these luxuries that you would have had, like I said, tenfold if
you just did what you were supposed to do.
But now that went to shit
because you're gonna have some criminal charges
and probably lose a business license,
probably lose your license to run funeral homes.
Like now you just walk up for what?
The price of a goddamn Yukon XL and some Gucci,
like you could buy knockoffs to hold you over
until you get the real, like what?
Like I-
It's greed though. It's pure greed. There's nothing. There's no, there's
nothing else. There's no other explanation about it. But this
to me is like a whole other issue because outside of greed,
it's also like these families loved ones. Like this is like a
whole other sick twisted part. These these involve like dead
people's bodies. Yeah. So what type of moral compass like, do you have
none? You have none. It's, it's disgusting to me. But I saw it
come across on the Facebook page and I was like, what the actual
fuck? Um, can you tell me if you watch lover stalker killer?
I did and it pissed me off.
Okay, well tell me your thoughts. It pissed me off because like the documentaryer killer. I did and it pissed me off. Okay, well tell me your
thoughts. It pissed me off because like the documentary was good. No, no shade to the
documentary itself, but the whole the whole case pissed me off because I was just like,
what the fuck? Like, I don't even have like I don't have words. I literally was like,
first of all, could you have turned this into a book? You probably would have made way
more money. That's number one. Also, is it a book because I'm
gonna read it? You're like, I want to read it. But I kind of
had it figured out already. Like, Elijah and I watched it
together. And I already had it kind of figured out. Wait, you
did? I didn't. Yeah, I well, I read a lot of thriller novels.
And I feel like nothing surprises me at this point.
I know a lot of people in the Facebook group already said that they were watching it. So I think it's fair game to talk about it.
If you haven't watched it already, skip over the next few parts because there's going to be some spoilers here.
But there's one thing that kind of threw me off though.
Do you think that Liz's boyfriend, who was the IT guys boss, do you think he was actually
more involved than they let on?
Because you're an IT guy.
I don't know.
You know how to change IP addresses, how to block IP addresses.
And out of all of the IP addresses that Liz was using, how would she have known to do
that?
That was the one thing that I was like, um...
I just, I don't know.
I think just from the pure fact that that's what he did,
that it's logical to assume or believe
that he had more to do with it, right?
But also if you are as sick in the head
as what this woman was, I feel like there are
no limits with people like that.
So I wouldn't like count anything out.
I wouldn't say that you would have to have a professional involved to do that.
I'm also just heartbroken for Carrie because this woman was for all intents and purposes, okay, yeah, she struggled with
bipolar disorder, but that doesn't mean that someone is completely unhinged.
Like, there are people who are walking around all around us, we have no idea they have bipolar
disorder and they're, for lack of better words, as normal as anyone else. So I just feel like to drag Carrie's name and character
and reputation through the mud,
and this mother was so desperately trying to understand
like why her daughter would just like disappear.
And I don't know, it just, it was heartbreaking
because I'm like from the home videos
that they showed of Carrie,
she seemed like she was living her life the best she could
with bipolar disorder.
And so I would be curious to know
how the fuck Liz was able to lure her
into whatever to kill her.
Like I need that part, I need to know.
I mean, I don't know, the Liz freaks me out. That shit fucking crazy.
Like I hope that I never come across a fucking Liz because it made me scared that like somebody
could lure me into something.
I'm like, oh fuck.
I would love to know that whole like, did you meet Carrie out?
So what was the guy's name again?
God fuck I had it written down.
He was Dave?
Dave, yeah.
Okay, so Dave went on a date with Liz
pretending to be Carrie
or he went on a date with Carrie as well.
No, pretending.
Okay, so I just wanted to make sure
that I got that correct.
So Liz pretends to be Carrie.
Dave goes out on a date with her,
but it actually is Liz.
And he doesn't find that out until later.
That is so fucking terrifying to me.
Could you just imagine, like,
something's really going on upstairs,
or like maybe there's not.
But I feel like somebody like that,
that is that calculated,
it's like there's so much going on up there.
Like there would have to be an incredible amount of thinking. The crazy part to me too is that she could have gotten
away with the murder. Not that I would have wanted her to, but had she not continued to
stock date, it's not continued to do all the things that she would the crazy the texting,
the emailing, the all of that shot herself.
But it goes back to the theory that I said
with Alec Murdoch, that people who get away with stuff,
it's like little by little,
and then they continue to do something,
and then something small trips them up.
It's like that same mindset of, okay, now I'm invincible.
So I'm gonna like keep pushing the envelope,
keep pushing the envelope.
Kind of like when gamblers are like,
oh, I'll just gamble this one.
Like let me place this bet one more time.
100%
One more time.
And it's like, now you've lost all your money.
You know, like you've lost it all.
So I feel like that's the same type of like,
okay, I'm gonna do this one more thing
and see how far I can push it.
Well, now you've done that.
I will see if it becomes an addiction. Yeah, because I mean, she truly could have gotten away, not that I'm going to do this one more thing and see how far I can push it. Well, now you've done that. I will do the constant addiction.
Yeah, because I mean, she truly could have gotten away, not that I would want her to,
because Carrie, the real Carrie's mother deserved all the peace and so did her son,
really.
Like, they all deserved the peace and knowing, you know, all of that.
But, and then for Liz to have pictures of like body, dead body parts, and yeah, it was
hard to make out, but she knew what she was doing.
She had those were like trophies to her
and that's so disturbing to me.
Again, like what is her diagnosis?
Psychopath.
Is it a psychopath?
Or sociopath?
I don't know.
I don't know, but somebody needs to tell us.
If you guys have not watched this, you need to watch it.
I was absolutely disturbed the whole time
that I was watching it, but unlike you, I did to watch it. I was absolutely disturbed the whole time that I was watching it.
But unlike you, I did not have it figured out.
I was so confused the entire time.
I think Elijah actually figured out before I did.
He did?
Yeah, because he said something and I looked at him
and I was like, what?
And he's like, just let me know when you get it figured out.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Oh, I love watching shows with somebody like that. It doesn't spill the beans, you know? I looked at. And I was like, Oh, okay. Oh, I love watching shows with somebody like that. It like
doesn't spill the beans, you know,
I looked at him and I was like, you are entirely way smarter
than I ever give you credit for not that I think he's dumb.
But I just think that sometimes because he does things and
thinks things without saying them. And so I don't necessarily
give him that credit. But like, there has been so many times
where I'm like, wow, you're way smarter than I ever have. Like, I didn't think your brain works that
way because he's not really into like,
but when you're watching like crime shit and somebody gets it figured out before you and
you feel like you're a good true primer, does it not scare the shit out of you a little
bit and you're like, okay, wait, like,
are you a psychopath?
Yeah, because now you've scared not only has this scared me, but you have scared me.
Correct.
So if you guys have not watched, make sure that you check it out because it is a very
good watch.
I feel like it was an easy watch and there's just like so much to that story.
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We have a couple of listener questions that people had posted in the Facebook.
One person says, how do you all
tell your friend that you don't want to be her maid of honor? I wasn't asked. I
was told I was gonna be it. When given a situation to ask for an owl, she refused
and said I had to be it. I'm not in a financial position to be able to give
her money for the venue, pay for the batch, the bridal shower per her request.
My husband and I are working on our own financials and figuring out how to pony up and pay for,
pony up to pay for all within a year.
And it has me sweating.
I'm cruising looking for a third job to help fund the cause.
I've never been a part of a wedding party before, help.
Okay, so I feel like if one of my closest friends
was getting married, I would already know that I was going
to be made of honor or I was going to be asked to be a bridesmaid.
But I do feel like that is something that should be formally asked and accepted because
not everybody is in the same financial situation and weddings are very, very expensive. And it does get very costly being involved in a wedding,
even if you are a bridesmaid.
I have never heard though of a maid of honor
having any responsibilities to give money for a venue
or pay for an entire bachelorette.
I don't know how that works
cause I didn't have anyone give me money for the venue
or I didn't even have a bachelorette.
I think we went to
like thunder from down under and I was pregnant. So I don't know
it was just I don't know. I was home by nine. I don't know.
So I don't know anything about that. I will say that I mean,
even just paying splitting the cost between a made of honor and
the rest of the bridesmaids or whoever is willing to contribute
still gets expensive. And I think especially now with like inflation and the cost of weddings in
general, it is really an un, um, what is the like impolite, I would say, to just assume that someone
is willing and able to take that on. And I think at the point that you're questioning how to,
how you could tell the person and whether
or not they would be understanding is a time where I would start questioning the friendship
because I know, for example, I asked one of my girlfriends to come on the podcast and
she was like, you know what?
She was like, I really want to do that.
She was like, but not right now.
She's like, I have some other stuff going on. And when I get all of that sorted out,
like I'll come on the podcast and I was like, Oh my God, like, of course, like never,
like our friendship comes first. So if you don't feel comfortable doing that right now,
by all means, like we'll revisit the situation if it ever needs, like if we ever want to,
or if like you bring it up to me, but like don it was never of question you know what I mean so even though that's not like a financial
situation if the friendship is real and if the friendship is genuine you're gonna be comfortable
to have the conversation to say like I feel honored that you want me to be your maid of honor
that you want me to be your maid of honor. And I am in a financial situation
to where I wanna make sure that I can take on
whatever these responsibilities are
that you feel like need to be my responsibilities.
I've just never heard of a maid of honor
helping pay for a venue or an entire bachelorette.
From my understanding, most of the bridal party
contributes to the brides part of the bachelorette
and then their portion.
So a lot of that could just be solved
by having realistic expectations
on what type of bachelorette is even taking place
in the first place.
But it seems to me like there's a lot
of expectations being placed on this person and I would, I personally would just like never put
somebody in that position. Like I'm not going to ask somebody to be my maid of honor, stand by me
and then have all these obligations for them, not only like time-wise but financially.
No, I agree with that. Yeah, maybe just have a conversation with her
about what the bride thinks the expectations are
and just say, like, I really need to think about this.
And then when you come back, if you decide not to,
you just explain what Lindsay said.
You're honored, you're thankful,
but right now you just can't,
you have to sit this one out.
And I don't know, I feel like your friend should understand but And, but you also have to be understanding and, and maybe even try to prepare
a little bit that she may be disappointed. And that's okay. She's allowed to have her feelings.
Even outside of weddings, I feel like everything is so extensive now, like throwing a birthday party,
throwing a baby shower, anything, it is a huge undertaking, not only time, but financial too.
And I think it's important to have these conversations that not everybody has the same financial
situation.
So, those conversations need to happen upfront so that the expectations are properly set.
I agree.
The next listener topic says, am I the asshole?
I want to celebrate my birthday and first Mother's Day
with my family out of town,
but my close friend is having her baby sprinkle
on the same day.
She got mad when I told her it wouldn't work for me.
Am I being selfish?
Is it not rude to plan something
on your close friend's birthday weekend?
Okay, so she wants to celebrate her birthday
and first Mother's Day with family out of town.
And that same weekend, her best friends or her close friends having a baby.
I feel like stuff like this happens all the time and you have to become comfortable with
your life and the fact that everything's not going to always line up for everything for everyone
and
a first Mother's Day, I feel like it's a big deal like Mother's Day and Father's Day are always
We celebrated those huge when I was a kid
I have always been very much celebrated on Mother's Day even post divorce and
That to me is like a very big deal. I agree. Also your
birthday. So why can't you FaceTime in to the baby sprinkle, but also be out of
town with your family celebrating the things that you have to celebrate?
Right. Send a gift. I'm so excited. You know, I wish you the best for you, your
baby, your family, and celebrate your birthday.
Let her celebrate her baby just because you're not there.
That would be like me.
I'm pretty sure Kristen was on vacation for my kid's birthday party.
She literally asked me, she's like, would you be upset if we didn't come to one of your
kid's birthday parties?
I said, absolutely the fuck not.
It doesn't change the fact that you love my kids and it doesn't change if you're
not there for a birthday party. You know what I mean? So it
just to me, I'm understated like also things like, oh,
bachelorette bachelor parties when you're getting married. Yes,
you're part of the bar, the bridal party or the groomsmen. But
that doesn't mean that every single date that revolves around
this wet this wedding is going
to work for you.
And I feel like it's unfair to make these people feel obligated to attend.
Why can't she just send a gift and still send her best?
That doesn't make sense to me.
Again, this would have me questioning the friendship as a whole.
So I was in a wedding in the summer, I believe it was. And all of the dates that were for like the bridal party,
the bachelorette, whatever, were weekends that I had Jackson.
And I was just very forthcoming about that
when I got the dates.
I said, hey, you know, I am now in a custody situation
and I can't forego time with my child to attend these things. So while I would love to be
there, I also have these other life obligations that come before me having fun. Yeah. So it's not
that you're not going to get the gift. It's not that I'm not going to be in your wedding or whatever.
I just can't attend absolutely everything. And at some point you have to focus on your personal life
and your personal happiness
and not be focused on how someone else feels.
I actually saw this from Mindset Goated the other day
and it was a quote, it said,
"'Celebrate the people that are there.
You can have a party or a get together
and the first thing you'll say is why didn't so-and-so
and come, I invited so-and-so, why aren't they here?
You're not even acknowledging the 10, 15, 20 people that came to support you on your birthday or whatever the occasion was.
Celebrate the people that are there for your moment who want to be there with you and stop
worrying about the person who wasn't there. I also believe that like why are we so focused on
individual people? Just celebrate and be happy with the people that can be there and also
be happy for the other people that have other things in life going on that cannot.
I, when Kristin got married, I could not go to the bachelorette party.
But I was at the bridal shower.
So Mary just like, I don't want to speak for her, but I think maybe she was a little
disappointed as she should be, but she also understood.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it just, I think it's just a level of understanding that yes, you might feel
a piece, you might feel like disappointed.
Yeah.
And that's okay to feel that disappointment, but also the disappointment has to come with
level of understanding as well. Absolutely. Absolutely. And on that note,
foul play.
Hey Kitty Yang, I have some juicy stories, but this one burns. A few years ago,
I was preparing to pull out all of my fall decor as, or as,
as basic pitches do late August, early September. And I was getting some cleaning done
and switching my plugins to fall scent at the same time. Fast forward to that night, my hubby and I
had been giving each other sexy eyes all day and sexual tension was intense. Knowing in the back of
my head where the night was going to go, I pulled out a vibrator and laid it on the nightstand.
Things get heated, literally and figuratively, and my husband starts using the toy on me.
All of a sudden, my whole cat was on fire.
I tell him to stop and explain what I'm feeling.
We start to look at the vibrator
and notice a strong smell of pumpkin spices.
I guess when I was changing the plugins earlier,
one of them had leaked on the nightstand
to the point it corroded the paint.
Imagine what I was doing to my cat.
I was able to wash most of it away with Dawn dish soap, but man, what a pumpkin spice disaster.
Love you ladies. I'm a fan of all the podcasts. Love to see the growth and you both love to see
the growth in both of you together and as individuals. Regrets, you have such bad irritants.
I cannot imagine that putting that on my cat.
I mean, pumpkin spice at that.
I need to know, like this is not even the fall, but I need to know how many people
hate pumpkin and pumpkin spice as much as I do.
The main part of this story that I have questions about is how many people use toys
with your partner, actively like all the time?
Not all the time.
But it is something that you do?
Yeah.
That's not something that I've ever done.
What exactly is it that you're using?
So we have the one that we used most recently what it looks like. It's like a flat
rose and then it has like I guess the clit liquor. No, it's like a flat it's probably like I'm missing
an eel. It's like it's like this thin and it's like a flat and then it has like a rose and it
vibrates and then it has like the cock ring attached to it so that you can put it on his shaft and then when he's on top of me it also vibrates while we're having
intercourse.
Oh, wow.
So is it like moving as you guys are moving?
It pretty much stays in place but it like moves on me.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
So like with like the move, Yes.
with his movements. So, yeah, it just adds like a little different kind of sensation.
A little spice.
A little pumpkin spice.
I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to doing it. I'm just saying that never have not saying
at this point now that I know that this is probably like commonplace that I wouldn't.
Is it common to use a vibrator?
Yeah, because I think there's like a large percentage of women who do not get off by
penetration.
So I think that is my guess to why some people want to spice it up and use because you're getting him off by penetration,
getting woman off by outside stimulation.
And I think that it's still all of the things combined
that help both partners get off.
So I wouldn't ever be able,
like it wouldn't offend me and it shouldn't offend a man
because you're still both actively participating in the act.
So you're still contributing
to getting off each other, getting each other off. Does that make sense?
Correct.
Correct.
Because I know a lot of men feel like, oh, if we use toys, that means I can't do my job.
But I don't feel that way. I don't think that that's the case.
Well, I mean, if they're the one using the toy on you, isn't it also a part of the physical
connection of like what's going on.
That's all I feel.
And mental and emotional connection.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Yeah. Uh, one time I'm not going to say who I was with, but one time this person told me
that they were actually shocked that I could get off that way from penetration.
And I was like, oh, why?
And he was like, well, that's not like commonplace
for any woman that I've ever been before.
Yeah.
And I was shocked shitless.
I was like, wait, what?
Yeah, I don't think aside from you,
I don't, you know how girls talk about like sex and stuff.
Like I can't think of one other friend of mine who's ever said that they get off that way. I can't, I mean, I also have a
horrible memory. So I feel like maybe someone has told me, but not that I can like remember.
So it's like very uncommon. You're an anomaly. No, can you? No. Okay, well, I'm gonna go ahead
and call Kristen out. I know she can. I don't know if she can. I don't know. I'm pretty
sure she can. I'm pretty sure she's told me that she can
before because I talked to her about this before. She said
laugh at my oh she can wow I was wrong. So I'm out here not even
knowing that she's told like if anyone has sex secrets that
they don't want shared and you need to then just let me know
because I'm sure Kristen has told me this and clearly I don't
fucking remember because she can. Great. I love that for her. I love that for y'all because
if you're ever in a pinch or you want to have a quickie, like you don't have to worry about extra
work or extra stimulation in other places. Yes, you're very aware. Well, your secrets are safe with me.
Obviously not me because I'm out here telling all of coffee combos foul play fienders. Okay, next foul play.
Hi, Kale and Lindsay. Let me start by saying I'm obsessed with this podcast and love you both so
much. I'm dying to share my foul play for some time now and finally found the courage to type it
type up this monstrosity. My entire life I've been a pretty hard sound sleeper. When I fall asleep, my
body just goes into a deep sleep. Nothing, nothing can really startle me to wake me up.
Listen, join the club. Or so I thought one night about 10 years ago, I hooked up with
a friend that I liked and had been crushing on for a while. After we hooked up, we fell
asleep, but ass naked. A few hours later, I somehow wake up in the middle of the night,
even though that never happens to me on this night, though, for some reason, I started
farting. What? I started farting in my sleep. It startled me and I woke up. It took me a
few seconds of farting to realize that I was not just farting in my sleep, but I was butt
to butt with this guy hooked up with and I was literally farting into his butt. As I'm
farting into his hole, he also wakes up startled. We didn't even have time to talk about what happened
because I was instantly embarrassed and immediately got my stuff and left to walk home. I can
truly say I've never been more embarrassed, love the podcast and I love you both. Um,
ma'am. Did she say she was farting into his butt hole? Yeah, because they were butt to butt.
Right, okay.
So when she was farting, he was second hand farting.
I never thought I would fart.
Can you imagine being woken up by yourself farting?
Oh, I've definitely done that.
I've definitely woken up like,
Wait, you woke yourself up?
Yeah, like when you're like not really fully asleep and you're very aware of the other
person, like maybe in the new part of like, in the beginning of a new relationship, and
you're just very aware of their presence. I have literally sat straight up and been like,
wow, I just farted like hoping that I'm not.
Wait, you said this to them?
No, Never.
But like just sitting straight up or like jumping
and realizing, oh my god, I'm not fully asleep.
I just farted. Are they awake? Did they hear me?
Did they feel it? Are they pretending?
Like just very insecure.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of like that time that you farted in that closet.
You say that and I have no
idea what the fuck you're talking about.
You told me this one time. idea what the fuck you're talking about.
You told me this one time.
I'm pretty sure you were like...
No, I know it was me.
I still don't think it was me.
No, it was.
It was like you were either still married to Javi or you were dating Chris and it was
like early on.
And you were cleaning out a closet.
I feel like it was in...
I don't think this was me because I- It was.
I don't know.
It was, and you were like,
I went to my closet because I had to fart.
I don't remember, I told you this in person?
No, you told me this over text.
There's no way out of me.
And you saved receipts, so you would've been able to find it.
Kale, I don't have receipts from fucking 2017.
Oh, well.
Like Jesus Christ.
I'm a receipt saver,
but like I'm not saving your fart stories from 2017.
Like that's not the receipts I'm saving.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I would just say, if I woke myself up farting
into somebody's asshole.
I would cry. I wouldn't even worry about getting
my stuff. I would just immediately leave and call it a loss straight to jail.
Straight to jail. And on that note, I just want to say thank you guys for always supporting our
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