Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Back To School, Doubling Down & Wedding Etiquette

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

CC299: It's back to school time and we have a bone to pick with crayon companies that are not Crayola. Whoever brings off brand crayons are not allowed to sit with us! Lindsie is obsessed with the Carlee Russell case and gives us all the latest in the craziness. Lindsie also gives us an update on her coparenting issues from last week. Kail is traveling to Mexico for a wedding and is confused on proper destination wedding and the appropriate gifts. Anyone have ideas? Kail finally shares the results of her sleep study and surprise, surprise, it's not what you think. Foul Play this week includes potty training and making sure you follow up with your man on proper heat rash procedure.  Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more!  Thank you to our sponsors!Embrace: Head to EmbracePetInsurance.com/COFFEECONVOS and sign up for pet insurance todayKiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEEProgressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your field scale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the Fakerie anymore. There's a Fakerie Bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Can you hear me? I can hear you and I can see you. Good morning. Welcome back to another episode of Copy Combo's podcast. Hello, Kaelin. Hello. Hi. How you doing? I love this like head thing that you have going on. It's a hair wrap that I got at the beach. I actually got two of them because I never got them as kids. So as kids, as a child. So I had to get one when we were at the beach.

I will never forget the first time my parents took us to Mexico. We went like in a limo. It was like this whole ordeal. It was like the first like big, what they would have considered like an expensive trip at that time to like take us out of the country, took my dad's parents, so we all like went in this limo and I can't remember who took Savannah off

to like let her get her entire hair braided with like the beads at the end. That was like the fad back then, like if you went on an out of country trip, like you got your hair like that. And I was a little bit older, but I felt like I still wanted it. Like I just felt left out.

And so I cried about it. And I was like, I want my hair like that too. So I very much relate, very much remember going to Myrtle Beach. There used to be a place called the Pavilion. I don't know if they still have it or not, but it was very popular to get your hair and those little wraps. You have.

I know that you used to do them at like in the Jersey Shore and stuff like that. I just, my friends at school would come back and do them. And I had a girlfriend named Sarah who did want for me at her house because I never like she got back from Florida and she and my friend Kelsey had them because they went together of course their families went together and like she knew that like I was never gonna get one.

So she did her best and like put a little beat on the end of it. Me and Lux got them at the beach and Lux got like purple and white I think for because I think Jeff Hardy or Matt Hardy like one of the W.E. wrestlers theme color is purple so he was like I want to be a wrestler and I was like okay period so he both got them and I mean speaking of the beach we I them. And I mean, speaking of the beach, we, I just want to give a little update. I decided to take Creed with us because obviously he's three now. And I just, I just felt bad like leaving him out. It's just been like, I know, obviously you have one, so it might be a little bit different. But for other people who have multiple childrens, I don't leave

Creed out because I want to leave him out. I just also know that he has like nap time like more of like a strict schedule and so it does hinder the other kids experience a little bit and so like I really was just gonna do something for the older kids, but I was like you know what he's getting better I'm able to kind of stretch his nap times his meal times and stuff like that and it worked out and he had a great time he loved the pool more than the beach, really. It's hard when you have those big gaps between your kids and they're all not doing the same thing. Yeah.

Because then you have to cater to the one who is the younger one and then you feel bad and guilty because your older ones aren't able to do the things that you would want them to be able to do because they have to be inside so that you're watching them while the other's napping. Yeah, so it was just, I don't know. And then it was also his birthday week. And I just, I don't know, I just felt he needed to be there.

And it's also the hard to, whenever you're in co-parenting situations where you don't have a partner that's like going with you, where one can take the older ones and then one can stay with the littles too. Yeah, and that's something I get a lot of shit for. Like, oh, I always leave my kids with Natalie and it's like, no, I work and people that work 40 hours, whether it's a 9 to 5 or whatever the case may be, have child care, whether it is daycare, a nanny, a babysitter, whatever that looks like. And I don't ever go, you know, I'm not just leaving with them with her just to leave them, you know, like I say all the time, like we're so overstimulated in life.

And I can't imagine being a little kid in today's society has overstimulated in all the things that are going on. I mean, I don't know what we were doing back whenever we were little, but I just feel like there's so much more now. And Jackson took a freaking nap until he was out of kindergarten. No, literally, luck sometimes.

Like he's six now or about to be six. And he still needs a nap, but I go back and forth with it because I'm like, I don't know if me continuing to have him nap would set him up for failure during the school year or not, but Lux very much is still needing a nap and he's almost six.

So I just don't know. Jackson, remember when I told you a long time ago and you were like, well, I can't do that because then that would like affect our bed times. When I told you Jackson was in kindergarten and he would come home from school and take an out. Remember that? Yeah, I remember.

Maybe just like a shortened, like quiet time or something like when they get home from school. Because sometimes, Lux will fall asleep on the way home from, like when we were in kindergarten. He would fall asleep on the way home from kindergarten and even now the attitude, like you just know that's like a tired, you need to relax, type of attitude. And I do think it would make a world of a difference,

but the problem is, if I were to put him down even for an hour, like one to two or two to three, which is during Creed's Nut time, which would be perfect, I just don't know if that would mess with him at school, and then he would have a hard, I don't know. So maybe it maybe from like three to four just like a quick little time or not. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's funny that you say all this because Jackson starts school tomorrow. What? Which I know everybody I've seen all over the Facebook pages. They're like, why is that child starting school so early?

It's the southern thing. All the pre-cairs here started school today. So everybody that started like four-year-old pre-K that's part of the Georgia lottery system or whatever, they started school today. And just seeing their little back-to-school photos and stuff all over Facebook, first of all, I love those photos. You know that I do not love like the cheesy the signs the the signs and stuff but

Will went on Pinterest and actually bought one or maybe it was like Amazon I can't remember where he said that he got it and I've always like filled out like a first day back to school He's always used like the same chalkboard or whatever But Will ordered one off of Amazon and he was like I I'm gonna let Jackson fill this out instead of filling it out. So I was like, okay, this should be interesting and this is gonna change the whole vibe of our back to school routine and like the look, but at the same time I'm kind of like, okay, well, life's also changed.

So it's okay, but like they're going back to school so early. So it went, we went down this rabbit hole of like Remember when I was in kindergarten remember when I did this remember when I did that and there was two things that he said He said what happens like why some schools do naps in kindergarten and some schools don't so I thought that was kind of interesting Um Where you lived they still do nap time in kindergarten Okay, so when remember when Jackson was gonna go to private school for like two days and then where you lived, they still do nap time in kindergarten? Okay, so when, remember when Jackson was gonna go to private school for like two days

and then I decided I hated it. For two days, yes. Okay, so he had to take a nap for two days and he remembers that and he was like, and then when I went to public school, they didn't have nap time, so we didn't get to take a stuffy, we didn't get to lay on a mat, nothing. It was just like all day we were doing school stuff.

So why does some schools do it and some schools don't? Right. I think it's a great idea not only for teachers that are dealing with kindergartners, but just kids that are that age to have a quiet time. I agree. I do agree with that. I don't know if some schools up here,

like in the North do half day kindergarten, is still either like the half day thing. I also that think that that might play a factor in whether or not the school naps the district chooses to do nap time in kindergarten. Kind of on the same topic of back to school, it Kristen told me something interesting that you told her.

And I am so fascinated that I had to text my girlfriend who's a teacher and I was like, why don't we do this? So I was going over back to school items and the list and she said that you told her that you can just hit a button on the website or something and have a back to school box at school for Jackson on the first day of school. Oh my god, it's amazing. So I want to advocate for every teacher to be able to have parents purchase these boxes because I also feel like it makes it better for the classroom because

everything's exactly like what the teacher needs and wants. No, thank you for saying that because sorry Joe, but I'm calling you out right now when I When I saw that Joe one year. I don't know what year it was put in like the knockoff crans and I had Crayola because we used to just Good bye. I don't know how it is at your school like you did Rose art and you guys and I was like Oh my god. And like we would both contribute because obviously like there is lower income students. And I think I don't know if this for sure, but I'm pretty sure with the what the supplies

that are on our list, it kind of goes into like a communal pile. And when he put rosar in there or like crazy color, whatever the fuck it was, I was just like, no, because whoever gets those is not the same quality as whoever gets the Krayola. It's just not. Listen, okay, rose art. I'm not like Conrose Art out or whatever other brand that you just said, but Krayola has mastered the craft of coloring and I just don't understand why anybody else came onto the scene. They do not color as well. I relate those to like the crayons that you get at a restaurant. Yes. Like they're horrible.

They're so waxy. Not good. You don't need a lot of pigment. Yeah, so I agree. These boxes are great though, because everyone has the exact same stuff to contribute. And when you go to Open House, the box is just sitting on their desk. It's an enclosed like a box with a lid. It has all of their supplies in it.

It has their printed name labels already pre-printed. The only thing you have to do is take your box home, label all of your stuff, and send it back. And most everybody that I know orders these boxes, and it comes home like on a flyer towards the end of the school year, and you purchase it before the next year. So they start you hearing this stuff. Yeah. They have their shoppers go all summer. They also love that because for the people like Joe and myself who do typically contribute, you know, an additional like set of supplies, that would make it easier for like if I, if we both ordered one and then the second one that we have could be not donate extra for the classroom, it would just make it that much easier and knowing that,

you know, someone that doesn't have the money to get these supplies is going to get the same kind of quality items as someone as my child. I don't want to see, you know, someone in the classroom or I don't like to hear those types of things or if like if I go and look at the art show or whatever and you can tell the quality of the supplies is not the same. That's not fair. It's not the kids fault. So I actually love that. And especially because if the labels are already in there, you don't have to put, like if you have to label them yourself, the teacher could maybe just print out a separate sheet of labels for whatever kid didn't have one. Exactly.

It's so nice. And everything's already like pre done right before we got on this recording. I just got off of FaceTime with Will and Jackson. They were in his truck heading away from the haircutting place and are the barber shop, I guess it's what they call it. And Jackson wanted to try a new haircut. It's super cute. We always do haircuts like right before school, nail clippings,

get the back to school outfit ready. I wanted to ask you this though. Do you buy your kids new backpacks every year or do they carry the same one? That is so funny that you brought that up because Lincoln just asked me for like a very specific backpack and I was like, yeah, like you can get one. And I was like, but the two other backpacks that we have

that you and I like used are in really great condition. I said, so I need to figure out what's going on with those. So I asked, look, they said, Lux, do you mind using one of these Pokemon ones? And he's like, oh yeah, he did not give one single shit. And they were like $100. So I'm gonna get a $300. Well, it's expensive for bad eggs.

It's so I'm gonna get a third year out of it, you know, for for that price. So I feel like that was, you know, it paid its own dues. And it it worked out. So yeah, if it's in really good condition, I'll have them. One of them reuse it. And if that if he didn't, I would have sent it to school of creed. Listen, every single year, I was like a big back to school person. I also was the same person when gel pins came out and stuff.

Yeah. Like, I needed all, like the proper jellies. I needed all the Lisa Frank folders when they first came out at Walmart and they started putting school supplies out, bet your ass. I was telling my grandparents, we have to go to Walmart because Spice Girl Barbies are out and get a new hit clips. And can we check out the school supply section so I can get Lisa Frank folders before anybody else gets them. I was a big back to school girly my whole life and needed a new JAN sport backpack. Every year until a little bean came onto the scene and it was like, oh, now they have

like the monogram, you can get them like customized on LLB and so then I got like a tie-dye backpack, but it was funny because I had ordered Jackson a backpack and it's something that my mom always does for Jackson. She orders him his lunch box and backpack every single year. And last week when Jackson was spending time with Will's parents, they went to Dick's sporting goods and he got a Nike backpack. So he got two backpacks for the school year and I'm like it's okay like if he wants to carry the Nike backpack, it's about him. It's not really about me. So I don't I don't really care. I mean I do kind of like the monogrammed one better, but you know, whatever it's fine. But now I'm like, okay, why am I gonna use that?

I guess it's like an overnight bag, but Will was like, Lindsay, I had a backpack from the time I was in third grade until I graduated high school. I mean, if it works, it works. I remember I didn't do the LLB thing because I didn't even have the internet until I was like 16. But the JAN sport thing, I remember getting my first Jansport

backpack in six or seventh grade. And I never had one before like a Jansport, but that was the brand. Like that was the brand. That was the brand. And so I just still have a soft spot for Jansport. And they come out with new styles and patterns all the time. But Lincoln is just not, like he does not care. spot for transport and they come out with new styles and patterns all the time, but Lincoln

is just not like he does not care. Isaac picked up or he picked out a tie-dye one last year from Amazon and it basically is falling apart. So he does have to get a new one. But for, I also love the monogram situation. I did the pottery barn ones one year but the kids were just I guess because I got like dinosaur pattern which was like not really timeless. It just backfired so we don't do the monogram ones unless it's like a timeless pattern.

Listen I love a good customization it doesn't matter I grew up with my monogram like on my pillows in my bedroom. So like, I love a good customization moment. And when his little backpack showed up, it's so cute. Jackson and I love space, and we love dinosaurs. So he got a space backpack. And he picked it all out. And my mom ordered it. Has Jackson on it and like and cute male look and font.

His lunch box has his regular monogram, JTC on it. So he's carrying that lunch box and he's carrying the Nike bag that Will's parents bought him and I'm so thrilled for him. Oh yeah, we love that. I got Lincoln picked out spray ground. Do what? Spray ground backpack. What is that? got Lincoln picked out spray ground. Do what? Spray ground backpack.

What is that? Don't show Jackson, because he might want one and they're expensive. What is that? It's like a brand. I don't know. It's like an urban feel kind of, but they have different themes.

Sometimes they do limited edition sports teams or players. He might find, he could find like Jason Tatum or you know, sometimes they do those. They also did like a custom limited time, say, Quan Barclay one, they did, hey Arnold from Nickelodeon. So there's like, they do like limited edition stuff, but I never had one.

I don't know when this company came out, but the kids love them and I'm like, if I get this, you have to use it for like a minimum of two years. Was this what they had that? If they had that whenever I was growing up. You would have had. Which would have had Helga Pataki. Oh, yeah. I look like Helga Pataki right now. Coffee Convo's podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Most of you listening right now are probably multitasking. So while you're listening to us talk,

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We're gonna get into that in a second, but she turned herself in before this press conference was released on a $2,000 bond, $1,000 for each charge, which I feel like is really low bond, but at the same time, I guess it's just based off the fact that these are misdemeanors, but the fact that she had the whole entire United States focused on this and looking for

this child or little person just really bothers me. The announcement comes, days after Jefferson County chief assistant told Fox News Digital that authorities expected to charge Russell with false reporting to law enforcement authorities and falsely reporting an incident. The maximum punishment for the charges is one year and jail for each. The police admitted during the press conference that they know people all over the country are shocked and appalled and Russell is only being charged with two misdemeanors. I'm also shocked and appalled. They were talking about how frustrated like all law enforcement is.

And then you gotta consider the fact that this was going on for like 49 hours. Like she was missing for 49 hours. And they still have not been able to confirm if she acted alone. And I've saw a lot of different, you know how we love our TikTokers? And I've seen like a lot of different reports coming from there. And she, I had read where she had allegedly made a statement but according to the

actual reports that I'm reading from credible sources it says that she had made a statement through her attorneys, so or through her attorney. I only heard the one through her attorney. I didn't hear one directly from her. So it says that her attorney, Emory Anthony told police that she would be ready to speak to them in the afternoon, But instead, after he told law enforcement that he delivered a written statement to investigators on her behalf,

and the statement was, there was no kidnapping on July 13th. My client did not see a baby on the side of the road. My client did not leave the Hoover area when she was identified as a missing person. My client did not have any help in this incident. This was a single act done by herself. My client was not with anyone or at any hotel with anyone from the time she was missing. My client apologizes for her actions to this community, the volunteers who were searching for her, the Hoover Police Department and other agencies as well as her friends and family.

We ask for your prayers for Carly as she addresses her issues and attempts to move forward understanding that she made a mistake in this matter. Carly again asked for your forgiveness and prayers. When asked what the motive was for faking a kidnapping, the chief said that he was at a loss. I wish I could tell you, but I think only Carly knows and maybe her attorney. So I heard his the apology through the attorney on TikTok, someone that posted it. I don't have cable or anything so I don't I didn't know outside of TikTok. But I think I know that there were volunteers on this, but I also just think that the the fines, the $1,000 or whatever, is kind of BS. And I feel like she should be charged upwards of the amount that would equal what was spent in resources trying to

find her and get to the bottom of this. Because I mean, that took away from other emergencies and other things that were going on during those two days. And I just, it's not fair, it's not right. And I just, $1,000 is not enough. It's a slap on the wrist. And if she gets away with this, who knows what she'll do in the future? And I just think to going through her attorney,

which I know this is what they're for, but in this specific situation, if she was as sorry as she claims to be through him, she A would not have smiled in her mug shot the way that she did. And B, I think that she would have cried her apologies herself. Her mug shot to me looked like a yearbook photo. I think she likes the attention she's getting.

And I think because this was so public, I hate the fact that the fine was so low because I feel like it opens up for people to do these hoax, get Mr. Meanor charges, slaps on the wrist, and oh, I can do this for the cost of $2,000. Agreed. I mean, I would hope that no one else does it, but also when you're, how old is she? I don't know exactly how old she is, but she looked pretty young to me in that photo.

It said also, I mean, she's at nursing school, which doesn't really mean much, but. 25. She's 25 years old. No, see, and you know what? Now that I know that she's 25, I have even less, I'm even less sorry for her, because if this was someone who's like 18,

they're like a baby and they're going through a breakup or someone's so-and-so's cheating and they're trying to get this person to attention, I'd be like, okay, they're a baby and they're being stupid about this. But when you're 25 years old, no, absolutely not. I do not feel bad for this girl at all. What is this?

What is such, the implications? It's is a pre-mititated like intricate plan. If she's willing to fake her own kidnapping, what will she do to get out of things for nursing? What if she fucks up in a nursing setting? What length is she going to go to for that? I mean, that also, since she's not licensed, I guess they can't go against her license for anything, but it truly is alarming.

And at this point, because it's been all over, she's not to change news. Yeah, I'm like, you're good girl, you're going to have to change your name in your entire identity and move somewhere else. It said that there was more than $60,000 donated to crime stoppers to help with the search and say for sure. So that's and that that would not be refunded. That would be her. That in my opinion, should be her fine.

Would be reimbursing that. I don't care if it takes her entire life to do it. That's some. That's the consequence because $2,000 is just not enough. Also, I know that we had questions about Amber Alert as well, and we didn't know the answers to that. But Amber Alert started in 1996, I read, and that is one of the best methods that they found for finding a missing child.

And it kind of went, this article that I found kind of went into detail about actually what an amber alert is. And it's an emergency broadcast made when a child is abducted. It's sent to an electronic highway signs, mobile phones, internet advertisements, and regular programming on radio and television. The alerts are broadcast and surrounding the jurisdiction where the abduction occurred. And then there's multi-state amber ambulance that are issued of law enforcement, at least in a doctor may have traveled across state lines with a child.

Um, ambulance allow law enforcement to immediately enlist the help of media and public to find the abducted child. It says that United States can choose to adopt these guideline standards or create their own for Ambrola alert and they are a child of 17 years old or younger. The child's name is name and critical information like their weight, height, date of birth, identifying features have been entered into a national crime information center. Law enforcement confirms the child was abducted. Law enforcement determines that the child is an imminent danger

of physical harm or death. And there's enough descriptive information that can be released to the public about the abductors vehicle and the victim to help identify to recover the child. So I don't know, I don't know that I've ever read like an hamburger that was not for a child. Have you? No, everyone that I've, and I, I specifically remember reading one that had like the description of the car that they believe the child was last seen in. It's basically like a phone will like

ding. Have you ever heard of a phone ding? Yep, I'm gonna say that it's like, you know how the cops like between themselves have like a below where it's like you on the lookout for XYZ? Essentially the Amber Alert is that for the public. So I'm wondering if she was looking up on her phone for the Amber Alert to see if she was above the age to see if the requirements were.

No, I think it was today cost money. Oh, did it cost money? That's what she was above the age, see if the requirements were. No, I think it was today cost money. Oh, did it cost money? That's what she was looking up. Does Amber Alerts cost money? Do you ever just like wonder and try to get in the mind of somebody who is doing these types of crimes? And you're like, okay, like what made you search that?

So people, it's no secret that people hate me and accuse me of wild-ass things, right? But like, it has never crossed my mind in 31 years of living that I should plot my own kidnapping or like plan my own scenario where I'm kid. Like, that is so, I am praying that she gets the mental hope that she needs. That is one thing. I mean, I thought about running away before just like, but that's like not blaming someone or setting the scenario for kidnapping. Like that's just not running away.

It's like, I do feel like that's more frequent. Listen, some of the stuff that I saw was talking about how she realized how intricate this scheme was that she was pulling her hoax whatever you want to call it and so she allegedly communicated with a family member or family members when she checked in to the Red Roof Inn So I want to know if family knew that she was at Red Roof Inn whenever she did it, and then never communicated that information to law enforcement, and they

were still looking for her. Well, that's what I had said when we originally talked about it was, I'm pretty sure her mom knew about some of this because. Okay, but do we think that it was like she was actually sleeping with a 17-year-old at the Red Roof Inn or do we think that she was just doing this hoax to make the boyfriend jealous because allegedly he was cheating on her. That's what I thought originally. I thought that she was doing this because the boyfriend was cheating and she wanted to grab his attention for that reason. But then I had heard, I don't know if it was from you or somewhere else or TikTok, that she was sleeping with a 17 year old and was at the hotel with him. But then in the press conference,

the lawyer, her lawyer said that she wasn't at a hotel, so where was she? Well, exactly. And can't they like track that information down pretty easily? I mean, wouldn't even at a red roof in, wouldn't you think they would have some type of surveillance somewhere to see like if she had been there on foot, even like outside on their property or checking in to, what do they call it, the check in people, like, wouldn't one of those people be able to vouch that was on duty? I think we should get her on the podcast

and ask her herself. After her mug shot, like, I just don't feel safe to do that, honestly. Troopian, Boozler, the fuck out of us. The national, and national, to play home. I just think, like, going out here and filing false police reports and making

shit up and lying about a child or a little person on the side of the road is so extreme. And then like robbing a cash register and like how not to get caught. I forgot about that. Like all of those are just like such interest. How is that? She's not getting anything more than a misdemeanor for that. And I'm just telling you, I don't care who cheats on me. I'm not going out here and lying about seeing a little child on the highway. No. Like definitely this thing.

This has to be a mental health related situation because I just. And she got snacks because she did not want to be hungry while she was bamboozling the entire United States. Agreed. So I mean this is definitely has to be a mental health stability and instability situation. You know that we've talked about our pets on here so many times especially little Georgia we love her and we are we want to talk about embrace

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And we want to remind you that today's episode was brought to you by embrace pet insurance. I have an update for you. Okay. So regarding the co-parenting statements and issues that happened last week, just wanted to kind of like follow up on that. Yeah, please do, because I was going to bat for you

in the comments, because I just, everyone was calling me a yes man, and I was just like, I'm not a yes man for understanding that Lindsay is a human fucking being with real feelings, and despite whether you have ever felt them similar to her, she's entitled to experience her own feelings in her own situation. So please, would that being said,

there was a lot of response. And I was truly not expecting that amount of response from this, almost as much of a response as we got from our Miss Fire Text episode, to be honest. I know and am very aware that my communication style can be very abrasive. My parents have often said with multiple of their children that it's less about what you're saying and more about how you say it. So do I think that I was a bit abrasive and what I was saying, absolutely. But the reasoning behind my concern remains the same

regardless of how I did address it, even if it was very abrasively stated. Well, and I told you it was a bit abrasive. I told you that. Yeah. And I just think sometimes the message does get lost when it was a bit abrasive. I told you that. Yeah. And I just think sometimes the message does get lost when it's a little abrasive because people are more focused on that than the actual right.

The delivery. And where my delivery may have been off, my concerns remain the same. Remain the same. And I think until you're placed in that position or you're going through co-parenting, a lot of people commented that are going through co-parenting every co-parenting situation is different. You have multiple co-parenting situations that all look very different and you have different struggles with

each of those situations. So I think playing the comparison game of This isn't how we operate and comparing to how I'm operating can be very different and also phase that you're in Just to go first time that I've Experience this well, and I said that in the comments. I'm like, you know When we talked about this originally, I did message Lauren. Like, you were talking about you were, you wanted to. I did message Lauren. Like, I very much was like, as woman to woman, you do not belong on a Disney family vacation with my children without knowing them or meeting me.

You do not belong there. And, you know, yeah, I was like 24 or 25 at the time. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. And of course, now looking back, it was like that wasn't my place. And it was more of a jealousy loss of control thing for me. And so I could only speak to that experience, but I also recognize that in you,

you're a little bit older than I was, but I understand where you're a little bit older than I was but at the but I understand Where you're at does that make sense like I understand where your thought process was I understand where the concern is I understand all of that and I don't I guess my thing was like when I was reading the comments in the Facebook post It was like how do other people not see where you're coming from well, and I just want to say some of the communication could have been, or the response could have been off because I did leave out certain details that I personally didn't feel were important for the public to know whenever I was addressing this

that may have been important for people to know when I was addressing it. Sometimes I feel like, okay, well, if I'm just directly to the point, it comes off more abrasive when I should maybe be explaining the situation a little bit better and more in depth so that people can actually understand

that I am a person with human feelings and this is my child and this is the first time I'm experiencing this. The last experience with the last girlfriend, this girl, I don't want to place it on her, but I also feel as if maybe had some ulterior motives because she herself and her friend were trying to break into our Kitty Gang private group chat, posting things in there, posted some negative stuff about will in there. So I am on Hylur knowing that there are these platforms and people could be seeking out

possibly the wrong thing. So not only am I coming from a place of wanting to be protective of my child, it's also protective of us as a unit of what are these this person's true intentions. She could have very true kind intentions. And I just don't know because I don't feel that will has been dating her long enough for him to even know. So for me, it was a safety concern. And regarding the situation of the bedroom, I was raised that you do not go into someone's bedroom as that

is their private space. Adults are never to be in your bedroom outside of your parents. They touch bathroom while I understand some people might have one bathroom in their home, will does not. And the bathroom is designated for Jackson's bathroom. So the way that his home is set up is the guest bedroom adjoins the bathroom that is Jackson's. So it would like a Jack and Jill situation. A Jack and Jill situation. A Jack and Jill situation. And the thoughts of having someone that had never been around Jackson being in a private

space like that was very uncomfortable invasive. It felt invasive. And while I understand he wasn't there when they were using that bathroom and it is not my home, a territorial aspect came out feeling like, okay, well, if this is gonna be allowed and I don't say anything and I don't stick up for this situation, then what's going to be allowed

to happen when he is there? I think it more so was commenter saying that you can't control what goes on over there and you can't dictate what's going to go on over there and you know you introduce Trent and Thomas and you know he's only done this and I get all that but at the end of the day this is still very new for all of you you Jackson and Will and I think just recognizing that whether your feelings are right or wrong, they're valid. That's for me, it's like, what, I don't understand. And regards to Trent and Thomas,

because I also wanted to kind of bring that up. I started dating Thomas in February of whatever year that I started dating him like last year, February. He never met Jackson until July 4th, weekend in a public setting. So you've got to look at from February to July. I was getting to know Thomas, dating him, seeing him whenever I didn't have Jackson

and very much separating my time with Jackson and with Thomas. With Trent, we all met at a trampoline park. He had his kids, I had Jackson there. We all met at the same time. We hung out as friends getting to know each other. Our kids had no idea that we were interested in each other, considering dating, considering getting into a relationship, never physically touched each other, even as much as hugging in front of our kids. I met him in February and Jackson had no idea that Trent was my boyfriend until May.

So that's a very different timeline and comparison. Also, since that last recording, Jackson did meet the new girlfriend very abruptly. I'm very understanding that everybody's timelines are different. However, it felt abrupt to me that how much time could you have possibly spent with someone to really vet this person, and for weeks time, that's how long they had been dating at the time Jackson met her, that you would feel comfortable enough to have her, which this was the plan, to have her meet Jackson hang out at the pool in the neighborhood and then have her sleep

over in the house within less than 24 hours of time when they had only been dating for four weeks. Now I do agree. No, I do agree with that. I definitely agree with that. I think sometimes things sound different because we are a hate saying public figures, but we're more so public figures. But if it was a regular everyday person who's not on TV who doesn't have a podcast, I do think that these concerns and these thoughts would be normal girlfriend conversation, like if you're with your girlfriend's talking about it and I do think

that these are all very real and valid. I've been in situations where X's of mine have introduced my kids to their girlfriends in days. So, and I've never done that, I don't agree with it. Unfortunately for me, it's one of those things that I there was nothing I could do, but I still have those concerns. So I don't people coming at you, it felt it felt a little it felt a little weird. Just because you're only we only speak on the podcast for 60 minutes and then it was only like a portion of the 60 minutes. And so you didn't give all the details and some of these things were left out and so you just don't, I mean, I got where you were coming from because I've already been there. So I don't know if some of these people

just haven't been there or I don't know. And I mean, I very much I'm understanding that you can know a person for years and something happened. And I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of what things that could happen. Just going to leave it at that. I can completely understand that sometimes you have people in your life that you feel like you know them and you don't really know them. So that's why I say everyone's timelines are just very different, right? It felt abrupt to me. And knowing someone for four weeks that you've met on an app, which, you know, doesn't matter if you met her on an app.

It's like, Will and I were talking. If you met her on an app, if you met her in a bar, if you met her in a brave game, does not matter. Just felt very abrupt for that short of a amount of time to, you know, really getting to know someone. How well could you possibly know someone? Because I know what our custody split is. And how much time that he could have had to really like truly start the vetting process of this person to put them in an adjoining room with your minor child and you're sleeping across the house. That to me is a safety concern.

And I feel like parents have the hardest time trying to make sure that their kids are safe. And my primary concern always when it comes to Jackson and anyone that either of us date, that is my main concern. Is he safe? Is he fed and is he happy? And, you know, the whole point of also having these conversations on the podcast is to open up conversation because it's not all hunky-dory, and everyone's not going to always agree

with what you say and how you approach things. And do I think that I was a little out of pocket for, you know, being as abrasive as I was, yes, but also, you know, this is my child. Yeah, your entitled to feel how you know, being as abrasive as I was, yes, but also, you know, this is my child. Yeah, you're entitled to feel how you feel, whether, you know, it's deemed right or wrong by the general public is kind of irrelevant, you know, like your feelings are valid. And I think it's part of the human process to feel things like this when you, you don't have that. I don't, I hate saying the word control because you don't have that.

I hate saying the word control because I don't necessarily think it's control for everybody, but you lost this family union, you this family unit where there's a specific structure that you're used to, specific expectations that you guys have, and when that's broken and you guys are no longer together, all of these new things It's like uncharted waters like you don't how are you supposed to you don't even know how you're supposed to feel you don't know how to

Navigate it right like it's all a learning thing. It's all Learning as you go and nobody should crucify you for that Nobody's gonna crucify me for being a yes man because I've been there. I get it and it took me I'm 31 now this I got divorced when I was 24, 25. And only now am I realizing that it was out of pocket for me to message Lauren. And it was out of pocket for me to expect that hobby wasn't going to move on with his life. You know what I mean? So let you process this and learn from your own mistakes. That's how I feel. And it did bother me when people were, you know, in the comments,

calling you a yes-me-am for agreeing with my position. But I do. But you also were aware of other details that I did not share on the podcast as well. So I think that some of the things that you were saying or what you were in agreement with me about, there were details that you were aware of that everybody else also wasn't aware of. So I know that people can have shared opinions, just like they can have differing opinions and kill and I have differing opinions on a lot of things, but you've walked this journey before me and I'm just now walking it. Yeah, and I think that's so I can give you grace where I already felt face-person to the higher to age shit in that whole realm of introducing people and, you know, so-and-so going on vacation and meeting my kids and things like I've already been there and I've aged shit and I needed to do that myself. It didn't matter

at the time how many people in my circle were telling me it wasn't my place. It didn't matter. I had to make those decisions on my own. And it's just the name of the game. It wasn't my place. It didn't matter. I had to make those decisions on my own and and it's just the name of the game. When you're a mom and you birth these kids, it's not that you have any more right to your children than what they do. It feels like we do. It feels like it. And I'm like, okay, well you didn't carry him for nine months and neither did I, but like 37 weeks so basically. You didn't go through all of that. You didn't go through the stay-at-home mom process. You didn't go through, you know, taking a preschool every day. You didn't go through any of this stuff.

And it is hard. It is not for control, though. It is trying to manage a new situation that is uncharted waters that you've never done before. And this is the first time that I've had to really do this. And it's nothing truly against the other girl, but coming from a mother and someone dealing with someone who's not a mother, I think that that's also something that I have to learn to express the way that I feel, to will in a more calm way, to get the response

that I'm looking for, for him to reach a level of understanding of, I am Jackson's mother and this is a concern for me and these are the reasons why and don't get out of pocket about it. Right, and that goes across the floor. I mean, I'm the same way. I also mine was more of control because I was like I was jealous and it was my nose a separate issue, but I agree. I think in order to get the conversation and the productive conversation that you would want and you would expect from Will and me as well in my situations We have to be more level headed and cool pause power in the pause

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It's one of the best things that you've ever taught me. It's something that I shared with my parents, something that they apply to their lives. But I told her, it's really hard because I get stuck in the Paul's part. Like I have become very good at pausing, but they're not knowing where to like pick back up after I've sat back. Oh my God, that is so fucking crazy that you brought that up. Go ahead, I'll let you finish and then I have to tell you my situation. So, I will pause on a situation and kind of like sit in that,

and I'm going through like this assessing process and the non-addressing process, and I have this level of increased awareness, but then I get stuck at all of those things and don't know how to truly reengage and press play. So perfect example, I wrote this like long thing to somebody. Just like addressing my concerns. I went over it, sent it to you, sent it to Kristen, was like, you know, I want to make sure that I'm addressing every single thing. I want to make sure that it's in writing not

because I don't want to do the conversation thing, but because I do get really upset and emotional verbally, and I don't want my message to get lost. I don't think I would get mad. I just think I would cry and just lose thought, like my whole thought process. And I thought this person would receive it better if they saw it in writing. They would have more time to think about it. Give them a chance to pause before responding. I never sent the message because I was like, I just like don't know what I'm like,

I don't know what to do with it. I'm in the pause and it's been paused for like, when did I send it to you to like review? Like two weeks ago. I feel like that was like two weeks ago. And I still haven't sent it because I don't know how to move forward and it's like, I'm comfortable in the pause. Like maybe I just need to feel how I feel and I don't need to send the message but I also feel like it's unresolved and I don't want it to be unresolved but I also am just like at a standstill. Sometimes I've been in situations most recently with someone that I will hear certain things that are being said and it just helps me to

write out how I'm feeling and I also send the message because I feel validated enough in my feelings once I've written it out that I don't need the response. Okay, okay, so this might be in my situation. I might not I already know how I feel I know But then I can't expect her to know how I feel and I can't expect her to read my mind so We have to decide if you're looking for a solution or if you're just looking to be validated peaceful and your existence is

separate No, I want a solution. I want to be validated, peaceful, and your existence is separate. No, I want a solution. I want, but I'm also afraid that if I send it, it's like more of a confrontation, and I don't want that either, because I'm not in that headspace, I haven't been in that headspace for a long time. I just don't wanna react to certain things. I don't wanna get emotional.

I don't want the stress. I don't want any of that. And so it's like, I don't know. Maybe I just need more time to decide if I'm just going to let it go or I have to have my... So you're stuck in the pause sister. Yeah. You are stuck. Can you tell us about your upcoming travels and also I want an update on your sleep study results? Okay. I leave for Mexico on Wednesday. It's a destination wedding. I've never been to a destination wedding. I think I've only been to like three weddings in my entire life. So when I was looking up etiquette for destination weddings, it said something along the lines of like the wedding

gift should be like more sentimental or more of like personal value, I guess, like not monetary value. So if anyone has any ideas between now, oh, I guess I'll be in Mexico in these areas. If you have any tips for me on what to get this couple, I did give her a bridal gift for the bridal shower, but I don't know what to do for like I want something that would be meaningful or cute for a minute said also on the website to send it to the house so that they don't have to bring it in their suitcase back home. But I don't have any ideas. I am in a wedding this weekend,

and I'm shipping the gift to the house because I'm just like that so much more for them to have to think about to get back and especially with a destination wedding. Like you only have so much space to be able to get stuff back. So I think that's a very wise idea. I'm going to disagree with that etiquette, and I think that you need to know the bride and the groom well enough

to know if they are more sentimental type people, or if they are more of a practical receiver. I think if I know them as well as I think I do, they would appreciate more of like a monetary item from me. Yeah, same thing. So, from like their parents or their siblings, maybe they would want something of like, sentimental value.

Son of mal, yeah, but from me, I just feel like, I mean, they're newlyweds, they want money. I would assume, I'm not saying they want money. I'm just saying like, if I was them, I would want money. And I always go off of this too. I always, because we always think that we have like the best ideas to like give people like this gift because it's something that we want. Like, if they have a registry, whether you're going to a baby shower or they have like this Amazon wish list or you're going to a wedding and they have a whole registry of things that they're registered for, pick off the registry

because they went and hand selected that shit, scanned it and they want that. Yeah, so like pick off of that. Yeah, I did money for the bridal shower towards, like a gift card towards their registry because I didn't have a target by me, but, but how do we feel about gift card giving? Because to me, I actually like it. Like I used to not and I used to think, oh, that is...

Thoughtless. Like just like the most thoughtless gift. Like you just have to go to the store. You can go to one of this little kiosk that have gift cards from absolutely everywhere. And you've had to put zero thought into this. But the older that I've gotten, the more that I appreciate the gift card giving more because you don't know what that person's needs

gonna be whenever they receive that. So they might use it for something that they didn't intend to use it for when they asked for it. I know this sounds super tacky and also thoughtless, but like I'm big on gas station gift cards because I hate spending money on gas. I hate going, as much as I love Wawa, shout out to Wawa. I don't wanna pay.

I'm on the pay for gas, I don't wanna pay for snacks. And so I'm really big on just the convenience gift cards or just something that you know target, you can get groceries or an item. You just never know when it will just come in handy. So I'm with you on that when I was younger. I'm like, this is just no thought, but the older I get, I'm like, please give me a Starbucks gift card

because that's just easy. I can add it to my app and it's just, you know what I mean? Like it's just convenient. I'm a person and I are very much practical gift givers, very practical. If I'm not gonna use it, I don't want it. And I don't, I don't like,

I just don't like really gifts at all. I'm just, I don't know, I'm just like a weirdo about it. Like I don't know like how to do anything with that. But if you're gonna give me a gift, like my parents will always like in our stockings, they always put like practical gift cards for each of their kids. Like they know I prefer Duncan and Jackson loves to eat

Duncan Donuts and Chick-fil-A. So my gift cards and my stocking are going to be Duncan and Chick-fil-A. Now my sisters might look very different. Her's might be like sax with Avenue and Starbucks, but like they're thoughtful in the sense that they know the things that we like and then giving a practical gift based off of that. Kristen has done gift card trees for me before. I love that. And it's like stuff that she because she has, she sees my, where my finances go. And so she very much knows like what I'm going to spend money on.

So I have gotten gifts from her that's a literal gift card tree. I think we did it for, I feel like she gave one to me before for when I had a baby or I don't even remember what the occasion was, maybe my birthday, but just knowing, even if it's 10, 15, 20, but little monetary amounts, Starbucks, 10 bucks, that's fine. She just texted me and she said I should do a gift card tree for the wedding, which that makes sense.

That totally makes sense to me. And I always, back when I, it was like my real mom days, you know, like, when I was just super invested and going and spending all of my time at the school, I would do gift card trees for, like, class gift. And it was so nice because it was so much from, like, everybody and it was all the things that she loved and it's also, a practical thing but it's also thoughtful because you had to think of all of the things like okay well she likes x, y, and z so we're gonna gift her from these places and then she can hand select the things that she wants from those places.

I love the gift card tree totally down for it. I need to hear about your sleep study though before we go. So the sleep study debacle was a fucking nightmare. Um, I don't know if I ever gave the backstory, but I had surgery a couple years ago, and Kristen was my caretaker after surgery. And they literally were smacking me in the face to wake me up. Like I would not wake up from anesthesia, and so the doctor was like, you have sleep apnea you need to go checked out. Never did.

I remember this. Okay, so you remember that. So I finally go years later, my weight has fluctuated and so I just assumed it never went away. Well, I get my results the other day, we did a video call and she was like, you don't have sleep apnea. She's like, there's definitely no sleep apnea here,

but she was like, we typically prescribe medicine for restless legs and drum when they score a five. And interestingly enough, you scored a 32. So I was like, yeah, she's like, do your legs hurt? Like, what's going on here? And I was like, my legs don't hurt. When I wake up, my blankets are all over the place. And I'm like, always like, I thought it was anxiety. You know, when I wake up, my blankets are all over the place. And I'm always like, I thought it was anxiety. You know, when I tap my foot or something like that, I just thought it was anxiety. She's like, no, you definitely have restless leg syndrome.

You scored a 32. So I'm gonna go on meds for that. So it says that restless leg syndrome is a condition characterized by a nearly irresistible urge to move the legs typically in the evenings. Restless leg syndrome typically occurs while sitting or laying down, it generally worsens with age and can disrupt sleep. The main symptom is a nearly irresistible urge to move. Getting up and moving around helps unpleasant feelings to really go away, self-care steps, lifestyle changes, or medications may help. It says that it can be like for years

or it can be lifelong. I know some people do get it, I've heard people get it when they're pregnant. I have never had it while I was pregnant that I can think of, maybe for one of my- But what if you had it the whole time? And it just went into pregnancy too. It's possible.

It's very possible because I do get up, when I wake up in the night from tossing and turning and stuff, I get up to go to the bathroom because if I'm like, if I'm already awake, I might as well get up and go. So it's very possible. But I didn't know you could get on medication for- But listen to this.

It says that treatment can help, but the condition cannot be cured. And it says some cases are believed to be inherited. Some cases have been linked with nerve damage in the legs from diabetes, kidney problems, iron deficiency, certain medications, pregnancy, sleep disorders, and alcoholism. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I can eliminate some of those things for you. And some, we can't. I'm definitely anemic.

So that's definitely one. So iron deficient. That's a pretty, I'm not talking about, I can eliminate some of these. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try the medication. And it's actually like a medication for something else, but they off brand use it for restless legs syndrome. And I don't know how to pronounce it.

So I'm not going to try. It's like, it doesn't have a pee. it's like, I'm not even gonna try to. Is it procardia or? No. I don't even know if that's the right word, but I'm pretty sure that I took a blood pressure medication when I went into preterm labor with Jackson and I was on it for like two weeks.

And they used that blood pressure medication like while you're on bedrest. So maybe it's like some type of similar. Okay, yeah, I know it's like, it's for something else, but they use it for restless leg syndrome. And so I'm gonna try it, not to reveal. But is that the only thing that you found out?

Yep. And so the sleep study, is it like a PDF and it like shows you like what the hell you're doing? Yeah, an appulmonary doctor has to read them like a heart doctor has to read them. Really? That's so interesting. Speaking of heart attacks, foul play. Who had a heart attack? I was so nervous that what you're about to say. All right, my husband and I are currently potty training our three-year-old son. He's been doing really well with the potty, so today I decided to give him underwear all day

since we weren't going to leave the house. By 11 a.m. he had peed through three pairs of underwear, a few minutes into a fourth pair. He pooped. I took him to the bathroom to clean it up. And when I was lowering the underwear down for him to step out, he tripped and stepped right into. He screamed and I cleaned his foot up. Then my arm brushed against his butt and I got poop on me too.

I got him cleaned up and while my husband was putting a diaper on him, we gave up for the day. I went to clean the underwear. I had the idea to use my husband's but day to clean the poop but had never used it before and didn't know how hard the water would come out or in what direction. I sprayed too hard, the water hit the poopy underwear, then sprayed it all over me. It was a messy day

and I'm not looking forward to continuing potty training. Love all your podcasts. That is so foul. First of all potty training boys, I don't know, because I've never potty trained a girl. Kind of a lie. I helped with my sister's potty training because I was eight years older than her. So kind of helped with. And I was talking to one of my girlfriends about this other day. Like, I helped her learn her ABCs, how to spell her name, all this stuff while she was potty training. And she had days of the week underwear. And so, I would always tell her, like, you're gonna mess up your days if you pee your pants. And she would cry when she would pee her pants. She'd be like, it's Monday and a month Tuesday.

And I told her how to spell her name and like try to like make it fun and educational while she was learning to go to the bathroom. And I can just remember it was so frustrating with her. And but she did. She learned how to spell Savannah while she sat on the toilet And it was so cute. I can like distinctly remember sitting in the bathroom with her and Spelling out her name and when she got to the double ends

She would say but I already said that one. Oh, because it was like yeah she wins and potty training her in comparison to Jackson was very different He wanted to piss his pants all the time. I didn't have that experience. And I just refused. I just I kind of went with a method and it's very unlike me to be a more type A personality to do this, but I told Will I was like, he's not ready yet. And I'm not gonna frustrate me, and I'm not gonna frustrate you. He needs to wear a diaper. And when he's ready and he shows interest,

then we'll start that process. Because I'm not trying to clean up rolling fucking turds on the carpet. Like I'm not trying to do any of that. So he was like a little bit more of a late potty trainer. But I'm not trying to clean out turds out of underwear. And honestly, I'm just throwing the underwear away. Yeah, I'm also if it's messy poop, I'm not I'm not even I'm not bothering. No, I've been talking about like a patty or like how we talked about like the rolling

turds before. I can like get down with that. Mm-hmm and watch the underwear outside of that. I'm not sprayin poop out of a diet out of a in a bed because at the point at the point that fecal matter flies back at me I'm out. Yeah I'm I'm also out. My kids have all potty trained around three and a half and call me lazy if you want say that you don't want to deal with diapers for that long. Everyone does what works for them. I've said it before, I'll say it a hundred more times. I potty trained several of my kids in two days

because I waited until three and a half and they understood you're done after this weekend. I remember distinctly potty training Lincoln in two days, I sent him back to Hobbies, fully potty trained. So it's me. Why am I stressing myself out? Why am I stressing the child out? Right now Creed just turned three and has absolutely no interest in I mean like sometimes he'll go on the potty, but chances are he'd rather peace pants and I'm not I'm not dealing with it. So we're a pull up we're a diaper and we will try again in six months.

I will say one of the best pieces of advice that I can give parents who are potty training, something that I experience with Jackson. He would, I would find him doing like these patterns of things. He peed on the potty way faster than he ever pooped on the potty and I don't know what it is with kids being like terrified to shit on the toilet but he was scared. Like he did not understand that whole process and he would go to his playroom. And I could kind of like follow his pattern of, okay, he's eating breakfast and roughly 30 to 40 minutes after breakfast.

He's making an effort to get himself to that playroom because that was his comfortable shitting spot. So I just eliminated the playroom altogether. And I was like, you're not going to playroom because I know you're going there to poo. So we're gonna go to the potty and we're gonna sit on the potty and we might be in there for 40 minutes, but you're gonna drop turds on that potty

and instead of your diaper. Creed will hide, like even- Well, what is it? He wants to hide. If you follow him, he'll say, let me hide. hide and it's like no, I don't want to but like again if he's not ready I'm not stressing myself out. I'll just change the fucking diaper. I hate it. I don't love it But it is what it is. I want I want to be able to wait until he's three and a half and send him to Chris's on a weekend Where he's fully potty trained and then we both don't have to deal with it or no more

Thanks to do it if more than to do it. If Chris wants to do it, by all means, send him back to me and hopefully, like, I'm not going to stress myself out over it. I'm just not. Shout out to all the parents who are out there potty training. This is just a season. Just remember it is just a season. Okay.

The second one. I listen to you every week and I love you both. Okay. Gross situation happened to me last week and I had to share it. So I've been hooking up with a friend of mine. I've known for 10 years recently. And since we both have kids and aren't at the stage of the out of at the stage of our kids meeting, we decided to be spontaneous and have outdoor sex. It's 1 a.m. and we're at a park by the lake barely anyone around.

So we go a little bit off the pathway to a picnic bench. Let's say he ate his dinner. a little bit off the pathway to a picnic bench. Let's say he ate his dinner. He ran around and we got to it. He ate his dinner. During sex he stopped and asked me to go down on him for a minute and when I touched his eggplant I noticed it had a flaky texture on it. I was super confused as this isn't the first time hooking up and this has never happened before. I was saved by a couple walking up the pathway. He quickly pulled up his shorts as did I and acted normal. Well, I brought it up to him last night and he responded, well, you told me to use cornstarch.

I was puzzled for a minute and recalled him saying a few days prior that he had a bit of a heat rash on his upper inner thigh. And I suggested he use cornstarch. Well, I thought he would have told me that he picked some up and would ask me when or how to use it. Oh when or how to use it. LOL guess not. So now I have a use infection and he feels horrible. Order of advice. Make sure you give all your details up front to men before they proceed with oxygen. What? Okay. I have never heard of using cornstarch or heat rash. How do you get a heat rash down there?

Is that not just like chafing? I would imagine it's like kind of like chafing of some sort. I don't know. Okay. So Kristen just hopped on here to verse us on why chafing and heat rash are two different things. Supposedly heat rash, you would use corn starch to soak up any type of moisture. I'm just telling you, this is why I can't do sex on a picnic bench because if anybody

had any type of moisture that would be similar to sweat, I'm not going down there. Why didn't he shower after he did that? I don't know, but cornstarch is used for baking. I'm pretty sure. Right. And if you have yeast down there, I don't know. She's probably going to like women have yeast in their bodies like a natural amel.

And so then you put cornstarch down there. I would imagine it definitely would breed more yeast. But why didn't he shower after that between that time and cooking up, I feel. Because it was so spontaneous, maybe he didn't know that he was gonna like get it. Oh, maybe it was the same day. At this picnic table and the cornstarch

was just stuck to his dangling. So stop looking at me like that. On that note, I can't deal with any more cornstarch was just stuck to his dangling. To stop looking at me like that. On that note, I can't deal with any more cornstarch dicky dues. Um, I've got shit to do. I've got shit to do. If you guys have not followed us on At Coffee Combo's podcast, on Instagram, make sure you follow us there. If you have not subscribed to the show,

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