Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Barely Breathing & Shaking Ass

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is coffee convoes with Kail Lowry and Lindsay Crissly. I really want you to be in your feels, Kail. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. All right, everyone. It's Wednesday. And this episode is coming at you in real time for Thursday. So if you hear my lawnmower, it is landscaping day. So just bear with me.

I also asked Ike to join me because last minute things, okay? And this sweater is by Fabletics and I have the whole set. If you like it, I'll link it. I went to go change his shirt, but I do want to ask him, he doesn't follow true crime, pop culture. He doesn't follow anything. So there are a couple things that I want to bring up to him to get his reaction in real time. So with that being said, the first one is Elizabeth Siders. And this case is really fucking sad to me.

So I want to ask them about that. And then I want to just kind of catch you guys up on what we've been doing this summer and how tour is going. And I don't know. We'll see how this episode goes. We're going to do our best. Okay. So bear with us. Also, I'll show you guys some pictures.

I painted, I painted Valley's nails. and I was trying to blow them dry with a blow dryer. That's what I was doing. And then she walks around the house all day like this. So like when she's doing something, and I'm like, girl, your nails are dry. Like, it's okay. But very proud. She did one hand red, one hand pink.

And then she asked me to do her toes, but we didn't have enough time. So that didn't work out. I also had to get a spot removed. I'm getting like new spots. And I have previously been a tanning bed tanning. and I've also gone out in the sun without sunscreen. And so I say I'm never going to do it again and then I do it again. And then I had to go to the dermatologist and have a spot looked at and a spot removed on my back.

And then we decided to go to the beach yesterday because it was cloudy and I don't want to go when it's super, super sunny. Got sunburn. Here comes Isaac. This is like when you sit down to do your Netflix interview about whatever it is. That was what that gave right now. The trend. Have you seen it? Yeah, I was ready to start talking.

What were you going to say? What's your Netflix documentary about? Raising kale. I'm crying. Okay, welcome to coffee combos. All right. So you've never, I don't think you've ever been on coffee combos, have you? Just bop my head in.

Okay. Well, I have a case that I want to read to you and I want to get your reaction in real time. I don't think you've seen it anywhere, so that's why I wanted to bring it up. Okay. Okay. First, I have to say this. Do not judge a book by its cover. And second, hear the whole story before you form an opinion.

Okay? Okay. So we're going to discuss this woman. Her name is Elizabeth Siders. If you guys haven't heard about who she is, it's a really fucking sad story. Elizabeth Siders was 15 years old when she married Gary Jr., who was 18. two months later their first child was born and now there are 16 children

okay hold on it gets crazier no no I could be wrong is this about the people in Ohio yeah I didn't like really really read it okay so four members of the Sider's family have been charged with 16 counts of child endangerment

after authorities removed 16 children from their home in Hamden so the defendants include 73-year-old Gary Siders Sr., which is the grandfather, 67-year-old Christina Siders, which is the grandmother. Yeah. 36-year-old Gary Siders Jr. and 33-year-old Elizabeth Siders. So all four of them waived their right to a preliminary hearing on Tuesday. And they're basically saying that she was also a victim because her parents and a judge

signed off on her being married at the age of 15 years old to an 18-year-old. man. And then she had her first two children, I think, before the age of 17. And then continued, she pretty much had a child every single year for 16 years. And then she had three sets of twins. I believe one set of twin died. One set of twins died. So she had a child every year up in just about up until her current age. Yes. Three sets of twins? Yeah. I think the last three sets of kids were twins. I like screenshot it. Of course, I can't find it now. So it says multiple reports. Multiple reports, which includes News Nation, claims that Sider's birth 20 children beginning at the age of 13. Authorities have also, so far, only confirmed 16 children removed from the home.

So that means that some probably died and are buried somewhere, is my theory. Police tapes surrounds the home where authorities say they remove 16 children and arrested for adults. And the oldest child found was 18 years old, was born two months after the couple was born. That means that Siders was a minor when she gave birth to her. first child to a man who was a legal adult. It looks like they got married with her parents' consent in West Virginia when she was 15 and seven months pregnant. Gary Siders Jr., the son of Gary Sider's Sr., married Elizabeth Siders at the age of 18.

He is believed to share 16 children with her, though officials have referred to this as an intra-family case suggesting that incest may be a factor. So it is possible that she was not the one that gave birth and maybe some of her kids had children together is a theory. That doesn't mean that it's true. How many bedrooms was this house? It was in squalor. So that's a moot point, exactly, because it wouldn't have mattered.

They lived in absolute squalor. 16 kids. 16 children from the same family were rescued from the home in rural Ohio, were they allegedly living in squalid conditions, including human waste. Authority said they were confined to just one room for much of the past four years. No education, probably never seen the light of day, probably hungry. Some of the children were unable to speak

and one of them, an 18-year-old, could not write her name. Most of our livestock was kept in better conditions than the children, said the sheriff. The children, boys and girls, ranged from one and a half years old to 18 years old. Seven were transported to hospitals in Columbus

and two were flown by helicopter. One was in critical condition last Tuesday while some of the others were admitted for care. They looked almost like feral animals. I didn't expect that to be read to me. I'm not going to lie. I'd seen it. I thought it was like bullshit.

Like clickbait? Clickbait. Bullshit. The fact that, so I did see a picture. Like there was like a picture. Of Elizabeth? Possibly. Okay. And it was, I don't know.

It was just all fucked up. The kids looked like they haven't gotten any vitamin D in their whole life. Wait, you saw a picture of the kids? Well, it looked like a, like. an aerial shot. Okay. Here's a question. Like how, first of, how was this discovered? Like, how did these grandparents and parents get busted? Authorities discovered the 16 children by authorities discovered the 16 children by executing a search warrant in a home in Hamden, Ohio on an unrelated parallel investigation for indecent exposure involving one of the adults.

Oh. Locals and neighbors had no idea the children existed because the family continually relocated, avoided public records, and bypass schools and doctors to keep the kids hidden. Here's the thing. This is like, all right. This is West Virginia. This is happening in West Virginia. It started in West Virginia. And now they were in Ohio.

Yeah. Okay. Which is close. They're close to each other. Yeah. So are they? Yeah. They're like you can cross the border.

Anyways. So at first, I thought of the Whitakers. The West Virginia. I forgot about the Whitakers. Yeah. If you guys don't know what the Whitaker are. I'm pretty sure I talked about it. So that's what I thought, like, just incestuous family that kept multiplying and formed, you know.

The DuPonts were like that, too. I don't even know who the DuPont is. They own... Oh, I know. Literally where we live is all owned by the DuPonts. Okay. No, I was thinking of like, what is there's, there's a king back in like the royal days. All of them. Yeah. Anyways. So, I was just thinking, I'm like, okay, maybe this is a Whitaker case, right? But the fact that they were picking up and relocating. And also, I'm assuming that all of these births were home births. Yeah. I'm assuming that like, you know, vaccines and things weren't admitted if the parents were okay with vaccines. sounds like they weren't.

What? Dumb question, but like, they were malnourished, but like how much were they consuming? Probably not enough. And some of them didn't even talk. I guess my biggest thing, my biggest question for you is, do you feel like,

do you feel like the mom was also a victim? I kind of want to split it down the middle, right? Yes and no. The reason I say yes is because she's young, she's 15, she shouldn't, her parents shouldn't have signed off on the wedding and her. Oh, the plot thickens. It says her exact personal location is unknown and she is being held in jail pending

judicial proceedings, her biological parents. Where are her biological parents? All right, hold up. Wait. Sider's attorney and family members, so her side of the family have publicly suggested that she was groomed, indoctrinated, and isolated from her biological parents over the years by

the Sider's family, leading her to her legal defense looking into whether or not she could be seen as a victim. I believe that she was a victim, and it is my opinion that her parents participated in it, but I obviously don't know all of the things about her parents.

I'm saying that because why are your family members coming out and saying you are groomed, but your parents signed off on the marriage? I for me as a mom of seven kids you got me fucked up if you think I'm ever going to give any of them permission to get married at 15, 18, 20, 25. Don't come ask me because the answer's no. But 25, you're still young.

So you'll locate a marriage at about when the frontal lobe is developed. Get married when you're 30. There's no need to rush. Okay. I mean, we're also talking about probably poverty. We're probably also talking about West Virginia where the education system is deplorable. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to think about.

I think she was a victim. I can see the viewpoint. I can't on why she is a victim. But also, this is my 50% no. The 50% no, and now I'm obviously just making this up because I really don't know the whole story. I know 5% of what you're right. Better be pissed off than pissed on.

So here's, Here's the 50%. Okay. She could have been, I love this man. I want to build with him. She was 15. No, because right there,

no, no, no, no, because listen to what you're saying. But you're not letting me finish. Because I don't need to hear it. It doesn't matter if she was being rebellious. She could have, she could have been rebellious. She could have been, I'm 15 years old. I love this man.

He's promised me the world. We're going to do this, that in the third. Okay. So hold on. Hold on. And then she's, obviously she's pregnant by the time they get married. She could have been rebellious to her parents

and then saying, leave me alone. You don't know what's best for me. Blasey blah. You know how things. It still required them to sign off on their marriage. So signed off on it. So, yes, you're right. I don't care if my kids tell me that.

No. 50% no is maybe she didn't, she obviously didn't know what she was signing up for. She was just living in the moments. Okay. But the 50% no is she could have been rebellious. could have been running away. She could have been doing all of this. So I'm just trying to look at it from a different perspective to where, yes, I can understand how she could be a victim.

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That's number one. Number two, she's 15 years old, younger than me when I had my first kid. Okay. We're talking about poverty, West Virginia, probably. lack of education, probably a lack of resources. What part of West Virginia, do you know? No. But regardless of that, her frontal lobe at 15 is not fully developed, right? But it goes a step further.

When things like that, trauma, pregnancies, things like that happen to a person before their frontal lobe is developed, it can stunt their maturity, it can stunt their growth, it can stunt all of that. So now we're talking about someone who started when she was 15 and we don't even know what her living conditions were before that for her to get pregnant in the. first place, right? And what their relationship was before that. So now you're married into this family and this family is constantly moving around. So now you're isolated from the one family unit that you knew who signed off on this. Now this new family is removing her from her biological

family. So separating her even further. And now they're mostly inside. They took the phone, right, if she had a phone. I'm not speculating that. I'm speculating on what I already know. We don't know if she had a phone. But what I'm saying is because they moved around so much, we don't know if she ever went outside. It appears that there is some trauma that has happened. It appears that she could be victim of the circumstance. So based off of the picture, she does look like she was just, can I say fed to the wolves? Like she was just. Yeah, thrown to the wolves. Like I genuinely think that it wasn't if the kids never saw the light of day and the neighbors. She doesn't look like she's in the light of day. She probably went outside very minimally if I had to guess because you also have to consider

if she's pregnant all those years and nobody knew those kids existed. She didn't. She didn't. She couldn't have gone out very much. True. She has no vitamin D. But I'm concerned about the kids that they can't find. And if one was in clinical condition. Maybe there were, so they said what, approximately a total of 20? They think there were 20 total, but they only found 16.

So maybe just throwing this out there, right? The possibility of like a stillborn? Possibly. Or. It said twins died. Okay. And she had... And she, throughout every single pregnancy, she didn't go get an ultrasound.

She didn't know what she was having before. She didn't even have a gender reveal. It's possible that she went through 16 births at home. It's possible. We don't know... Epidermal. Mm-hmm. Epidural.

Sorry. Epidural. There's another case that I wanted to tell you about. This one's really sad, and I will be curious to see... Oh, wait. Elizabeth's parents reside near this southeastern part of the... state relatives, including Elizabeth's brother and uncle, have stated she suffered a difficult home life and became estranged after she married into the Cider's family at 15.

Okay. So I'm telling you right now, I would go to the end of the earth for my kids. So I don't understand that, but I also would not. Hell wouldn't even be the word. Hell is. As long as you know. You would raise, like, you would blow up the earth, if possible. the amount of hell that you would raise

you better I'm glad you know I know the amount of hell that you would raise trying to figure out I mean rightfully so but like this she got married

and then she pretty much was just pulled away from her immediate family and followed whatever they wanted her to do okay there was another case I saw this on TikTok

okay And I'm not sure if this is, she was a young mom. I can't find it, but I'll basically give you a moral story. Maybe someone can find me in a story that it was a video in an interrogation room of a mom. She very much resembled Elizabeth Siders. That's why I thought of it. And she's being questioned because she lives in an apartment and she is a fentanyl addict. Her daughter gets into the fentanyl allegedly.

There are roommates or friends, you know, in and out of the house, some in the living room. She takes a nap, little girl, toddler girl, gets into the thing and then lays down with her mom in the bed and then passes away. And they check on her while mom is fucked up, don't realize she's dead or realize and don't do anything about it until hours later when they sober up. Where do you want me to start? Let me see. While you're talking, I'm going to try to find. Well, this is, this is what. All right.

So when they checked on the this is a little girl. Yes. When they checked on the little girl, did they, their definition of checked, is it just opening up the door or just speaking over? Like they checked on her. So made sure her, she was breathing, assuming, because there are different variations of checking on somebody. Yes.

So if they made sure that she was breathing, okay, then I guess you could say that, like, she was alive. But now here's the other part. Did the mother, how old was this little girl? I believe she was two. I'm trying to find it. So everybody was getting high in the house. Yes.

So maybe the mom rolled over on her while maybe the mom was. No, so much fentanyl was found in her system that it was for sure the fentanyl. Okay. But once I find, I'll find it at some point and we'll talk about it. But basically she was a toddler. She claims that she kept her fentanyl in a bag away from the toddler. And she didn't use when the toddler was in the house. and she was taking a nap,

and that's why they didn't realize that the baby had died. But they had checked on her, but they didn't call for hours. Like rigormorice had already set in, and she claimed that she didn't realize, but the baby was, like, stiff. There's no way, because I don't really want to dive into,

like, the world of addiction, but sometimes people don't really care who's around them. They might veer off to a bathroom or something. Other people don't care. They'll just do what they have to do. in plain sight or around their kids or whatever the case may be. So the reason I say that is because if she's hiding her fentanyl somewhere, I mean, even the outside of the bag can contain fentanyl.

So she could have left that bag somewhere, moved it somewhere else, and then the baby, because you can absorb. If fentanyl touches your skin, I'm pretty sure it absorbs into your skin. I've seen videos online of police officers, you know, doing like a strip search or something or taking contraband doing whatever they got to do and it's a back to fentanyl and they just

pass out or whatever it is. Yeah, I'll find the video for when this airs tomorrow but I just wanted to get your take on that because I mean, I guess my whole thing is like obviously addiction doesn't discriminate. It can affect anybody. Correct. But at the point that you are, fentanyl

is a crazy fucking drug. Like it can be so helpful in a hospital and controlled setting but then did you ever did yes i agree but did you ever hear of car fentanyl no that's a higher like fentanyl would just be pretty much basic at that point right there's i'm pretty sure that's how you pronounce it car fentanyl or something like that there's also like a uh uh when i was a drug and alcohol counselor i was doing a lot of research and um they there was also a drug that would pretty much like people look like zombies, like really bad. And then their skin will start to, like, deteriorate on the

outside. Like, you can visibly see it. But this doesn't happen from just shooting up in one area for years on end. Like, this pretty much starts to take effect right away. But I guess the high is so intense that fentanyl is like nothing to them. For me, I'm just like, obviously, we all know that addiction cannot, it doesn't discriminate. But it's scary because I, funny enough, I read a comment yesterday that said, like, I'm always blaming everybody else for every, every, every, all the problems in my life and fallouts and things like that. And I commented back and I said, I never said I don't have a hand in that, right? But say all this to say that car fernal, an analog primarily developed for large animal

veterinary use. It's 10,000 times stronger than morphine and 100 times stronger than regular fentanyl, making it exceptionally dangerous. So fentanyl is a synthetic opioid up to 50 to 100 times more potent than heroin. So car fattenol is 100 times stronger than fentanyl. And then there's, what's this? I don't know. But so I was before I lose my train of thought, I was saying that this comment last night was saying that I never take accountability.

And I thought that was funny because I am pretty self-aware. It might take me a minute to get to that final destination. but I am pretty self-aware and I say that to say like I know my limits when drinking I don't I can't smoke or do any sort of weed or edibles like any time I have to be functioning I apologize to my kids

and I'm saying all this to say that I do feel like at the point that I recognize that I have a problem I would have to send the kids to their dads right so to me it's hard for me as a mom to look at this mom who

is clearly struggling with an addiction of fentanyl. And she sounds big, like, I wish I could show you the video, but she sounds so clear-headed when she's sober. She's clearly talking about her drug use. She's talking about being a fentanyl user. She's talking about doing drugs. She's talking about getting high. So she's aware that she's doing this.

So whether it's recreational or a full-blown addiction, either way, you're recognizing that this is not safe for a child. So at what point do you decide, okay, I'm putting my child above these drugs, or I need to rehome my child. I need to put them up for adoption. I need to put them up in, you know, find a family member. I need to because clearly you put the drug before your child. So that's hard for me to like wrap my head around.

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Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash coffee. That's better. What I think what happens in cases such as that sometimes their thought process is, okay, obviously they're getting drunk or high around their kid, but a lot of people like their kids are their world, right? So if they lose their child, whether the state takes them, they go to a cousin, sibling, whatever, they've lost their world. So they would rather, unfortunately, get drunk, get high, do whatever it is with a child there

because their child is still in their presence. No, I don't know that it's that. There was a case, I'm not going to call it a case, but there was a situation where some girl I went to high school with, she, the father, her dad got locked, children got locked up for many years. She fell victim to addiction. And what came from that is a lot of people offered help. And now this is just one of, I'm just saying a million cases.

A lot of people offered help. A lot of people said, you know, hey, we'll take the kids if you have to go to rehab, whatever the case meant. She ended up OD in and dying with her kids in the kids. In Easton. Yeah. Kids in the house. So that's just one case, I'm sure that...

For my mom, it was more of a pride thing. So it wasn't... It wasn't Kaylin's my whole world, and I would rather do this simultaneously to being a mom because she was a shit mom, right? I also think she... I'll give her some grace and say she did the best she could for what she was facing.

But it was more pride. If I let Kaylin go, that means I was not strong enough. I was not good enough. was not so it was more like what how will this make me look because it was the narcissism i could wrap all into that and i'm not saying that's the case all the time but i would like as a mom when i think about that i'm like okay like if you're not good enough to raise your kids what are you good enough for so it's like a real ego hit but i don't know that that's i don't know that it's like my kids or my world i have to do both at the same time like i don't think it has anything to do with i've

did you fart no not that i know of because you've been gassy lately and it stinks I don't smell it, but is it your armpits? Did you put on deodor? Yes, I showered. Where the fuck were you? Sleeping. So, so also. Let the record show.

I was up before Ike. I let him sleep in this morning. Thank you. Appreciate that. Greatly appreciate that. Because I was up from about 2 o'clock till 5.30. I also did not sleep well. And so I talk about on the podcast,

the kids sleep in our room still, it's fine. I don't care. And I actually told Lincoln I'm going to be really sad if he comes home from his dad's and doesn't sleep in our room because I wasn't ready to let it go yet. You know what I mean? He's a grown boy. Please don't. He's ready to spread his wings, Mom. So Creed sleeps on Ike's side on his little bed that he makes and luck sleeps on my side on the little side he makes. But Creed likes to fall asleep in our bed first. So he's he wedges his way. He climbs up on the bed and he wedges his way between us. And I'm reading my Kindle. And this is just second nature for us at this point.

So it doesn't faze me, but like he's snoring. And he's like, like little baby, cutie boy, five-year-old snores. And I just am like, it's so peaceful to me. And he looks at me and he goes, that sounds like you in my ear. I, you should appreciate it and cherish it because the one day, like last night, I didn't sleep in the bed with you, you missed me. You couldn't sleep. That is true.

So? But you've got to take the good with the bed, so you can't get the cuddles without the snores. You put the snore in snore. You're like, I don't know. When I get my tonsils out, game-chater. Remember when you tried the patches or the, remember when you tried the sleep thing over your mouth? Bees stop from snoring? I.

Last did. Half a night. Okay. To be fair, to be fair. I just remember. At that time, first of all, we were so new. That was so embarrassing. But why was I snoring that bad then?

Because I don't snore like that now. I think just. Right? Or do I? No. You be snoring. But not like that. That was like bad.

I luckily there's a fan on the other side. So I bought this tape to cover my, to keep my mouth shut. And it has like a little hole. right here. Yeah. So I can breathe to try to help. But if I'm being honest, it wasn't strong enough. It didn't keep my mouth shut. She'd be like this. No, I'm saying the tape wasn't strong enough to keep, like I opened my mouth even with the tape. Like it was not strong enough. So I, but I thought you said that I don't snore like that anymore. No, there, there are moments. You don't snore that loud. You never wake me up. So that sounds like a you problem. You must

like it. Okay. I'll start waking you up. And when I do, don't look at. at me all crazy. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. Don't look at me all damn crazy. No. Remember at one time when you said you're holding a fart all day? No, I never said that I was holding the fart all day. I don't know why I just, it slipped out. How does a fart just, first of, can we talk about this? Okay. First off, the start far, the little, the fart didn't just slip out. It did. Okay. And it went up your back. No, I was in a shot.

But yeah, wet-ass part. But number two, number two, I want to say this as well. This is my podcast. You don't get to come on here and talk shit to me. No, no, I'm not. I'm just stating facts. So then also, why is it okay for you to be the beautiful, amazing, glorious age of 29.5? Five. Or four, sorry, 34 years old. And you stand in the, in the closet and piss on yourself.

Remember that? Yesterday. And you came out and said, babe, I don't know what happened. I just felt a warm substance running down my leg and I peeved. I peed all over my shelf. And then you said, having seven kids does, I guess. Babe. Sorry, this is the answer.

Because you were trying to arm me in a little piss pot. Dave. Okay. So I accidentally beat myself, not a trickle. It wasn't just a little... What was that? Like a little trickle. I didn't mean to do it.

I was in the closet. So we're going on... We're going to London next month. And my travel agent, shout out to Patty. Needed passport information. Passport information is in a safe in the closet. Had to go to the closet. Now, mind you, we had just gotten back from the beach.

So I was already a sweaty, gross mess. And I'm like, okay. I need to get myself together, but let me send this before I forget, because we all know the second I start to do something and forget, I'm never doing it again until it's too late. So all of a sudden, and I'm wearing like really lightweight, wide leg pants. And normally, normally I would feel like the urge to, oh my God, I have to pee so bad. This takes me back to my knack days. The last time this happened to me, we went to the same. We went to the same community college at the same time. And you used to lurk around the film crew and be like, no, no.

Yeah, you did. Stop. Yeah, you did. I seen her. I thought, I thought she was, like her major was like production or something. So there was like a film crew with her. So it wasn't my major ever. I didn't know that.

Oh, that's what you thought it was. That's what I thought. Oh. So that's why there was cameras around you. So, okay, maybe that's her major. Anyways. So I'm leaving NAC one day. NAC. Also, fun fact, Brian Koberger went there as well.

Remember the guy from, okay. So I'm leaving knack and I don't feel anything. And all of a sudden I looked down my dream in my little 2001 Nissan Centra with cloth seats. And I have peed myself and I never felt it. So I had to go to the doctor and they did this test where they like insert tubes up there and they fill it with liquid. And to see if your body registers like your brain registers, okay, your bladder is full. You have to go to the bathroom. And it did not work.

So it was taking me back to that. Depends. If you guys listen to this podcast, I do. Combo's podcast. Depends. Please send us more diapers. But not more. He said more. To be, I do. People know I wear them.

So. We bring them on tour. Also, you guys, Christina P. Do you guys know who, funny, because I was talking about peeing myself, but Christina Pee, if you guys know who she is, she messaged me Yesterday on Instagram and said she wants to get together. Oh my God. He lives under a rock.

If y'all think that I lived under a rock. I don't, I only have TikTok. I don't have. Yeah, but she's like the goat. Okay. Well, respectfully, I just don't know who she is. Okay. So, Christine, if you hear this, I'm sorry for not knowing.

She's a comedian. And she's so funny. And actually, my old friend, you met Bone. Yes. Right before she moved. And she, she, used to be obsessed with Christina Pete, like obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. She was the one that told me about her and got me into all the lore and her and her

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what do you want to eat for lunch? And I was like literally barbecue, literally anything. Okay, but if anybody is from Texas, then you guys listen to this. Is it appropriate for myself? I'm not going to speak for her, for myself to have overalls that are shorts. Is it appropriate and for me to have cowboy boots for no socks?

I'm just saying. Do they, do we? we want to go on the lake? Do we want to go on the side by side? And do we want to go wrestle a home? I want to do all three, buddy. I won't do all three. We going to do something. I said, I won't do. So shows are San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, Minneapolis. And so I was already going to be in Texas. And so when I reached out to Stephanie on TikTok, I said, hey, I'm sorry if you guys can hear the lawnmower. Some of you guys are completely understanding. And some of you guys absolutely hate it. So they're right outside the window. So I was already going to be in Texas for

San Antonio, which is a random Wednesday. I don't make the rules. I don't make up when they decide that I'm going to go to each location. But since I was already going to Texas, we decided, okay, if Stephanie was available on that Monday, we would just head down a little bit early, do the interview for Barely Famous, hang out, do some Patreon stuff, and then keep it pushing to San Antonio. San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston, will have Becky as the guest. So if you are a Carmen Chaos fan or if you're just a Becky fan in general, she's my guest. But then Minneapolis will fly, Ike and I will fly to Minneapolis and pumpkin from Honey Boo Boo, and Mama June will be my guest to Minneapolis.

And the catch about that is that I've never actually met pumpkin in person. So she'll be the first guest, I think. I'm old, right? because you said pumpkin and I'm thinking flavor of love. Pumpkin. What? You know punk, I love New York. Let me see pumpkin.

You don't know pumpkin? She spit on New York? I never really watched VH1. I've never seen that woman a day in my life. Never? You never watched The Flavor Flav? I obviously know who he is. Should I try to get him on Barely Famous?

He's 67 years old. No. No, I'm texting PR right now. I have to get Flav A Flav. No, I love it. Like, he's iconic. He is iconic. He is, like, if we're talking the original dating shows, all of that era, it's like, it was

tequila for the love of Flav of Flav for the love of what's the, I love New York. I love New York. And then there was, when did Bachelor start, like Bachelor Nation? I never really liked. That was like way above my- Well, because I went from... Families pay grade. I went from VH1 to like MTV with Next or Real World Road Rules.

My first crush was a girl on Road Rules. I believe it. What year did The Bachelor start? The Bachelor started. 2009. I don't know. 20, no, 2002. So what year was Flava?

Flave. Oh. wait, he's not, I thought that was the first time we had ever seen that man. No. It was on that show. It says Flavor Play first came into the mainstream as a founding member and Hightman for the hip-hop group Public Enemy, which formed in 1982. Yeah. What?

I thought that was just some, like, kind of like, like TikTok people get started now. Like, you just don't know where they just like pop up and they take over the world. You know what I'm saying? Like I just thought that that was like a like a fluke. They just knew who like they found him and then they just the guy with a clock. Yes. No. I had no idea that he was like part of something so much bigger.

Where have I been? In a cave. He's never been legally married. I'm going to kid. I think he has a son. They have a son. He has a son together and I'm just blown away. So were him in New York dating?

for the TV show. It came down to contestants, and then it came down to who he wanted, Pumpkin or New York. And he chose New York. And towards, like, the end of, like, the show or something, pumpkin ends up spitting on New York. Like, honks a luggy.

Ew. Honks. Honks. A looogie. Hawks. Honk. Look, I'm going to pull it up on the YouTube. On the show, you're going on the show.

I feel a bad ass-out transvestite looking bitch. I was better than you making your exit right now. Yes, the hell I do. She's a fucking fake bitch, bitch play. Buy pumpkin, buy pumpkin. New York and pumpkin. They started going back and forth. It was crazy.

We said I don't look like a pumpkin. Give me a hug. Bitch, you look like a fucking man and you need that facelift and get rid of crowsweet with that fucking top. I don't even make no attention. I'm not, they're bigger. Okay.

Okay. I love you. I love you. Get her out of here. Okay. Actually, I can suck the shit. Do it! Slap me, bitch!

Bitch, I would take you out! Because I'm staying in the house and you're eliminated, you're going to spit in my fucking hair. What? She's spit in my fucking face. I don't play that shit. Now you got to go for well. That's what I grew up on.

Oh, I remember the flame of flame, but I don't remember. I didn't see any of it. I had it wrong. So it was down to, like, the final three. It wasn't like the pumpkin in New York. So it was pumpkin, New York, and hoops. Hoops. And hoops, obviously hoops, it was hoops or pumpkin.

I'm pretty sure that's what it came. Okay, don't quote me on this. But if that's the hoops that I'm thinking of, they tried to get me to box her in a celebrity boxing match. Probably. Let me see her, Google her. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they, and maybe they, I don't know if they ever went to her.

Yep. Yep. I don't think they ever went to her about it, and they might have if anyone, follows hoops on any social media you'll have to ask her. I've never met her, but they did reach out to me. It was like this big celebrity boxing thing

and it was like you could fight hoops for $50,000 or something like that and it was all rigged but and I was like I don't know who that is like I don't want to, I'm not going to go up against somebody I don't know like I didn't know that's so crazy. What a small world.

You see what that bitch did she spit on me. That's the pumpkin I thought you were talking No. What pumpkin are you talking about? Because I grew up on that pumpkin. This is the pumpkin that's going to be... Because I tuned in the flavor of love because it was good, at least at the time. So pumpkin that is coming to my show, she has a spicy account. Oh. So this is pumpkin. And I got into it with her mom last year. So that's going to be my guess.

for Minneapolis. Okay. Yeah, I was just thinking of flavor of love. Right. I wouldn't. Shout out to this version of Pumpkin. Do what you gotta do? Do she have kids?

I think she does. You do what you gotta do to feed them babies. Okay. Well, on that note, we are gonna go do whatever we gotta do. I feel like we've recorded enough. Do we? I think so. Do you have anything you would like to say?

How do you think our summer's going? our summer's going. Honestly? You know that song where it goes, still alive, but I'm barely breathing. That is not where I thought you were going with this. Pray to a God that I don't believe it.

It's a song. It's a song. Okay. Like, we're alive. We're surviving. Like, the summer is good. But, like, half the time, we're jellyfish.

Yeah. We're winging. it. We're winging it. We're jellies. We're just, just floating. Like, babe, did you, did you do that? Huh? What are you talking about? We talked about it 10 minutes ago. I don't, I, I, is that me or you? Just because I look at you doesn't mean that I see you. I said that to him. I did say that. I did. I will look. No, because why did you say something to me just because I'm looking at you doesn't mean I'm listening. I don't know what you said. I don't know if you were talking to me. Just because I see you because he said, he said something and said I was

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Okay. Tor is taking me the fuck out. When I tell you, we got back from Tor, we took a red eye home on Friday. Our flight took off at 10.45 p.m. We landed at 7 a.m. on Saturday. When I tell you, I never do this unless I'm sick, okay? And we got home.

We showered to wash the airport off of us. Got in bed, I slept for three hours. He slept for four hours. We wake up to eat, and we went back to bed and we slept. And this was on Saturday, the 4th of July. We didn't watch fireworks. We did not get out of bed except for to eat. And then in the morning at 9 a.m. on Sunday, on July 5th, I got my kids.

Like, I'm telling you, I have never done that unless I was sick. We are struggling. Okay? The last tour, we had to go to Target and buy more clothes because I underpacked. I was not prepared. This time, like for Texas, you're bringing your own suitcase. Because we mixed our stuff, right? Why did you mess up my stuff looking for yours?

I'm doing my best. Okay. Because I also, in Indianapolis, the first leg of the tour, left all. of my podcast equipment in the hotel room and thank the fucking gods. Thank you, Rihanna, because Becky ended up saying, could she stay in our hotel room when we left? And I said, yeah, of course, left all of my podcast equipment in a suitcase. And Becky was like, uh, what is this? And I was like, oh my God, I left it. And so she has all the stuff. She overnighted it. That's like, I should be there. You know what I mean? It's just with Elliott.

So I forget the podcast equipment. Need podcast equipment was not. able to record in Phoenix during the day like I was supposed to because I had left the equipment with Becky in New Jersey and she was in Michigan and so left the equipment in Michigan. No, I left the equipment in Indianapolis and when Becky flew home with it, she left it at home in New Jersey and then she went to Michigan so she overnighted it finally. It should be here tonight at 8 o'clock so that we have it for when we leave to Texas. How long ago was it? Like a month ago? So we're doing our best. And I'm just struggling.

And then obviously things happened on this for this podcast. We're trying to keep our heads above water. Anyway. All I'm trying to say is this, okay? I know you want to get off, but I want to say this. For everybody who showed up to each venue for tour, thank you guys. You guys have brought a lot of fun and excitement, a lot of joy, a lot of energy. You know, everybody, we're starting to show what we've started to show off just by.

Who's shaking ass tonight? That was Alessandra. Alessandra was like, we're just doing a twerk off. Hey, who is shaking ass tonight? And there was this one girl. The halter top? No, no, no. There was this one girl.

So her partner was insecure about her. Oh, I think her name was. Was her name Kayla? I don't know. But Holy Jeans, Blacktop. Yeah. I know exactly here you're talking about. So her partner was insecure about her, right?

I guess she's a gym girly. That's what you call it. She was hot. She should be a gym girl. I mean, she was great. So. You thought she was hot? No. She reminded me of like a relative, like a younger nature. Oh, fair. Okay. Well, I thought she was hot. So it came down to her being on the mic saying, so, you know, confession or some shit like that. And then what it came down to is she FaceTime to him. He's on the game.

Mine in his business, whatever. She brings the phone up to kale. this was on a live show on a live show where were we i think that one was phoenix was a phoenix yeah in phoenix and she brings the phone up and long story short they're like dump them i just said dump him because he was saying like she's posting thirst traps from the gym to get attention and i said okay then that's acceptable i said the only people that can do it is a man because if a man does it it's fucking weird so dump them and also you're not going to tell me shit about my fucking selfies. If I want to take a selfie at the gym, I'm holding myself accountable and I look hot and I'm going to the gym. You're on the

fucking game. You are on the game and I'm at the gym and you're complaining about me posting a selfie at the gym. Fuck you. What if it wasn't a selfie though? What if it was like, oh, just got that pump. As she fucking should. I'm just saying, hey, I told her, I said, hey, do what you got to do, right? Because-Ike's ending up for the woman, right? Do what you got to do because social media is all about likes and shares, right? Well, maybe she's trying to build a gym brand. We don't know. So I also think that that prompt,

actually she started shaking ass before she brought that. As she should. So long story short, listen, man, if you're all insecure about your partner and then posting selfies or gym workout pictures, just it ain't really that deep. Social media.

Other than that, make sure y'all pop out to the remainder of the shows. Yes. And shake some ass. I don't know if we're shaking ass at everyone, But we'll see. It depends what the vibes are. It depends what the vibes are.

Texas is coming up. All the bitch is shaking ass in Perwood ass in Texas. Everyone, thank you for bearing with us over the last six weeks. And I really appreciate you being here. You appreciate me? You appreciate me, Vince. Bye. We'd like to see.

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