Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Bombshells, Bad Exes & Bathroom Confessions

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

CC: 482 Kail is joined by Zach again for an unfiltered convo about everything from Love Island USA drama, controversial contestants, reality TV casting, and why some people are simply impossible to root for.They also discuss shocking stories from Netflix’s Worst Ex Ever, the ongoing Alex Murdaugh case developments, internet conspiracies, and the psychology behind crime. Along the way, Zach shares the terrifying story, while Kail opens up about a very unexpected medical testing experience. From reality TV recaps and pop culture gossip to true crime rabbit holes and laugh-out-loud oversharing, this episode is packed with chaos, commentary, and plenty of side quests.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is coffee convoes with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crissly. I really want you to be in your feels, Kail. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with a fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. So I'm back with another episode with Zach. Welcome back. Thank you. We're in person this time, but I can't see anything. him but your head.

Shut up. I can't see. I got my camo pants on. He has this camo hoodie on. We're going hunting after this. For sure, on my, on my acres in Smyrna. We're going to go,

is it even hunting season? It can be. Today? Today. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, first of all, Zach convinced me to try

watching Love Island. What do you think? The fact that you tried to have me skip over that cringy fucking intro, was the like I needed that. Yeah. Why would they have them dancing like that?

It's horrible. No, why would they do that? So they do it every season. Why? I don't know. And everyone's saying like, um, it's like worse this year, I think. Like the, the lip singing and dancing is worse this season. If any production company told me that that is something that I had to do, I would immediately

pull out of the contract. I did marriage boot camp, teen mom, 16 and pregnant. some other like talk shows, if they ever in their whole lives said that I was required to do that, it would be a hard now. And then I texted the, so I had said on that episode of coffee combos that we were going to cover Love Island. And so my book club, the girls texted me. And they said, Kale, if you're going to commit to Love Island, it comes on every night this week. Who has the time? You're going to have to make time. 9 p.m. So she said season six was the best ever. Season seven was all drama this season I have too many thoughts I don't have too many thoughts yet other than I'm too old

because they all look like teenagers the first two girls that come on their intro are 23 and 24 years old they are 10 years younger than me I don't have anything in common and kensi immediately irked my soul thank you I told everyone I hate kensi no I hate her as soon as I saw her I was like oh no like very pretty the second I'm allowed to vote her off oh you vote yeah oh this is a voting situation You have to download the Love Island app. An app? Yeah. And then every episode, or not every episode, but when they tell you, you can vote, you can match people.

You can sabotage them if you want. I love so much. I love, oh my God, hold on. What is her name? Melanie. Wait, hold on. I have everyone. Melanie.

She's Dominicana. Yes, Melanie. She's originally from Philly. Love her. Love her so much. And then fucking badass. Baya. Yeah, I'll call her Baya. And she's a para, a para-Olympian bronze medalist.

Like, first of all, I couldn't do that on a good day with both legs. I could have five legs and I'm not doing that. Facts. Like, I barely made it through a CrossFit workout. But she's incredible. Yeah. And then there was, Sean gave me the Ix so bad. He's from, like, the last place that he's from Pennsylvania.

I saw, like, the Lehigh Valley, which is where me and Ike are from. and he was a cop there, but he was let go from his job. Why? Do you have tea on that? It was an article that came out. I saw the article before we decided to cover it. So it says,

a police officer left to be on Love Island. Officials are not happy. Pennsylvania mayor criticizes Love Island, USA contestant Sean, for quitting police job to join reality show. So he, I guess, quit to be on this reality show, which, well so did um trinity she said that she quit her uh well she worked at a hardware store um but she said

she quit her hardware's or a job for this which i would i would have done that too shan gave me the shan was giving like Sean gets on this fucking TV screen and talks about he was in a relationship with for 10 years and they broke up like what the fuck were you doing yeah what were you doing he gives me see i think i thought that Sean was one of the hotter guys he's cute but he's definitely a cornball Yeah. I love Melanie. Kenzie was okay. No, you said you hated Kenzie.

No, no, no. I'm wrong, not Kenzie. Who was the girl that walked into the entire situation with Kenzie? Anaya. Anaya. Yeah. Anaya's cool. She's fine.

But I like Melanie more than her. And then Bea is cool. But I didn't get to watch all of it because seven kids. And so I was just kind of like having it on. So you didn't watch the guys come in? No. I only just saw like. Oh, I saw the guy from London.

I saw Sean. I saw the guy that walked in with Sean. And he was definitely hot. Oh, Casey. Yeah, but like, he's your type. I don't like traditionally good-looking men because they are the ones that are the fuck boys. And they're the ones that all the girls want. And that's why my baby dads are all ugly because I want men that people don't want.

Do you know what I mean? And then it also fails me. So it's just, it's all a hot mess. Wait, so what did you think about Bryce? No, I never saw him. Okay. Well, he said he's a model. No, he's not. And he said that he models for Calvin Klein.

No, he doesn't. So what did Calvin Klein say about that? They did not approve that for his PR statement. I don't think they, they commented on that. Him getting a brand deal one time is not him as a Calvin Klein model. Yeah. He's not cute. I wish you saw his, um, wait, should we, can we pull up his, like, because I want you to see his personality.

Like, how he walks in. you tell me, did you tell me or did someone tell me that they're like having everybody on the lockdown for social media this season so that there's no spoilers and people are so mean. Yeah. We're being mean. Yeah. So last year, all the other seasons, they were allowed to have like a friend run their social media while it's on.

Like while they're on the island, they would have someone like kind of managing it. So are they on social media now that it's airing or no? So how long can they come back? until they can come back. Well, they're still on the island right now. Wait, what? It's real time. It's real time.

I think it's like a day or two delay that we're seeing it. No. That's why you can vote people off. No. Yeah. See, that changes things. You feel involved when it's happening. That's why it's every day.

Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. So I love the, what's it called? I love the structure of this show versus other reality shows because you really really feel involved and like included in everything. Yeah. Where it's not just like a storyline that was like concocted over months and months.

It's like actually happening. So they can't like fuck with it too much. See, I love and appreciate that. One of the girls from my book club, hold on. First I said, Sean gives me the egg. She said, hold on. They had a guy because I was talking about the intros. Like why do they have them dancing like that?

And Nicole was like they had a guy season six swinging his suitcase in circles on train tracks. Why do they, why are they doing that? And it's five minutes long. It is the longest intro of all time. That's why I told you just start at five minutes and 10 seconds. And the show is so long because I was like, oh, I'll just put it on this morning right before we record. And I click like the okay button to pause it. And it was like an hour and 45 minutes. Last night's episode was only an hour. Okay. So maybe because this is like the intro of everyone, it was extra long. Okay. And then I didn't get to this part, but the girls in my group chat were said, said, um, we're saying the kissing is giving me the egg. Why is there so much

tongue? Why are we leading with tongue first? Who kisses like that? What is the T? What happened? From the chin up. Who's kissing? Wait, what was his name? Um, the, um, oh my God. Gabriel. He came in as, um, oh my God. I keep drawing a blank, a bombshell. So, bomb. So every, every, like, day or two, they have hot bombshells come in. New people get added. and they come in during the recouplings, and they come in basically to stir shit up. Oh. So if you think that you're like,

you're matching with someone, they bring in someone 10 times hotter. Wait, and they're not part of the cast. No, they end up being part of the cast. Yeah, so Gabriel came in last night, and he stole two of the girls and made out with them from like the neck. Together, like all three of them?

Not at the same time, but in back to back. Is he cute? Really cute. Wait, let me pull this up. Hold on. Gabriel from Love Island USA. Oh, he's fine. From the show.

Abrio is now the second cast made to be removed from the Love Island USA lineup after producers found out some unknown controversies about him. This will also help even out the numbers in the villa after a Santa's room. Villa. Now, fans already assume. Time out. Well, what is the controversial shit? I don't know.

Because he was on last night. So he hasn't been. Wait. So they removed him in real. time. Allegedly, according to that video. Casey is fine. Sincere.

Love that name. That was on my baby name list for Rio, I think it was. I love that name. And then someone told me how popular it was, which is a goddamn lie because I've never heard anyone else say it. Kenzie is stunning, but I can't get behind her. How's Trinity? Do we like her?

Yes. What about this guy? Is his name Zach? Yeah. He's from London. And his brother was on last season. His brother's name was Charlie. I thought the other guy was from London.

I remember the London guy Hold on I think if she was going on Behind the scenes Because Love Island USA Official posted All of the intro videos For 10 of the castmates

Except Gabriel and Vassana With fans even asking in the comments section Where is Gabriel's intro? He's out Why? He wasn't officially fired like Vassana was For her videos Who's Vassana?

Was that last year? Do you think that people live? about being in like say that they're not in a relationship to apply for this and then they do it yes i feel like that has happened i'm trying to think i've only watched season six and seven um so but i know there's a lot of like ogy fans from the very beginning and then they also have love island uk and there's like 10 seasons of that so this is going along for a long time okay let's talk about my jam which is fabletics i have so many sets from them i'm absolutely obsessed

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The guy from London is on Love Island USA. Yeah. But there's one in London. Because I think he lives in L.A. Oh, okay, fair. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Somebody that's not from the U.S. is Harry Jalsy.

Love him. Did you see me on his podcast? Is he from Love Island? No, he's from Perfect Match. What's that? It's a Netflix show. think. But that was the reality show he was on. He's six foot five. I know. Like I wouldn't even have been mad if my boyfriend was like, yeah, he's fine. And he's not my type. Yeah.

He's never going to ask for me to come back on this podcast after I hear, after he hears. No, I love him. No, he's so nice in person. Yeah. And I texted him after like when I got back to from LA. And I think I was like, hey, like you need to have my friend Matt on your podcast or go do farm tours with him or something. And he texted me back. And you know, he's just me back. And you know, know people in this industry do not text back, which brings me to my next point that I wanted to say to you was me holding this frickin' mic makes me feel like Tanna. Why? You have a story about Tana. I do. Tell it. We're calling you out. So I think it was like 2019. Okay. I was supposed to go glam her in L.A. And her assistant at the time, Natalie, um, I found her assistant's email. And I emailed her and I was like,

I want to glam. This was like shortly after. There's. 12 flies in here and I'm so sorry. It stinks in here. It's just kidding. Shit. Oh, I did have to shit in a cup. I'll tell that story in a minute. Bye.

So I found Natalie's email, her business email. I emailed her saying I want to glam Tanna. And I was like, I just wanted to have to have the opportunity. And that's kind of how I met you. Yeah. It was just like that one little opportunity that turned into like us working together for a long time. So I was offering to do it for free just to get.

out there and Natalie emailed me back saying that she was down and she would love to have me. So we set up a date. I booked a flight. I flew to California and she was emailing me all the way up until the day saying like, I was like, are we still good for tomorrow? I'm about to board my flight. She's like, yeah, we're so good. Can't wait to see you. She's like, I'll send you the address in the morning because it'll either be at the house or at the studio. So I was like, okay, cool. So I didn't have an address. So I was saying with my friend and that whole day, no one ever replied. So they ghosted me completely.

You booked a flight. Yeah. Tanner! And then at the end of the day, Natalie emailed me back and said, I'm so sorry, we had a crazy day. And that was it. That was it. Did you respond? Yeah, I just said, like, okay, well, I'm here for one more day and they never replied.

So maybe one day. And you would forgive, you forgave her? I love her. I don't, she could fucking kill me. I don't care. No, because it wasn't her. I cannot. And like, we've all had not good assistance.

So. Wait, what if someone from Love Island asked you to do their makeup? What is it that you hired to do glam on set? Or do you think they find local people? No, they don't glam the cast. The cast glams themselves. Yeah, they have a whole glam room. And they get, they do their makeup every single day.

There's some glam girls on that show. Where was this for teen mom? I'm so pissed. we were supposed to so I'm going to do my best to keep up with it or I might have to like watch it not in real time because I just don't have it I have to usually choose between books and or like adaptations and TV like I don't have I can't do both um we were going to go until like the end of July so oh so I have time to catch up because I'm going to be on a lot of planes and in a lot of cars coming up here starting next week um so love Island I was supposed to watch the Alex Murdo all thing did you end up finishing it? It was only 30 minutes. Okay, so update me because I didn't get a chance to watch it. Okay, so did you know about the trial like when it was happening? Yes, and I read the book and I had a woman named Valerie on my podcast who was like in the

courtrooms in real time. I need to catch up with her and see if she would want to do another episode because she wrote a whole book on it. The book is called The Devil at His Elbow and it's by Valerie Borlein. And she previously worked for like some really big places and I had her on the podcast to talk about the case. It's a really good book. And so I had her on to discuss the entire case.

She's so fantastic. What was the whole, he's getting unconvicted? No. So the documentary was called Instadocs. And it was about, the documentary was focusing on the, hold on I have the title of her in my, I don't want to say the wrong thing. So the documentary was about the clerk of court named, Becky Hill

and she I guess was trying to sway the jury their opinion and she was like meeting with that which you're not allowed to do

so she was meeting with him being like just focus on his body language and like really listen to what he's saying in this next part so I think she was trying to sway the jury's opinion

and one of the jurors, how do you say that were jurors? Yeah. One of them stepped forward and said something about that she was talking to them and then she magically got kicked off the jury for a conflict of interest and they removed her in the middle of the court uh the court hearing and um

then she ended up testifying against becky hill saying that um or i think i think Alex Alex Merr oh my god what is this it's either Alec or Alex it's been pronounced differently throughout so many different. So then I think his defense attorney ended up trying to have a trial against Becky Hill because it could have really affected the case. So that's basically what the whole documentary was about. So he's getting retried? But he got denied.

So he's not getting retried. No. He still is, he's in there for life still. Okay. I was under a completely false impression. Then I thought that he basically, they were saying that he didn't do it and he was getting retried. because they were framing him is what.

Yeah, I think that's what they were trying to get at. But Becky Hill ended up, she pleaded guilty to four felony counts of misconduct in office and obstruction to justice and was sentenced to three years probation. That's it? Yeah. I don't know if you have found this to be true to with your, do you watch a lot of true crime? I wouldn't say a lot.

Okay. I've scaled back over the years because I have to do. like I said, choose between like books or watching stuff. But I used to watch my entire life was true crime. And I've noticed that a lot of cases, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen in the north, but I definitely think that there's more corruption in the South. Yeah. At least from what I can see like with the more high profile, like really high media coverage cases,

I do feel like there's a lot more corruption in the higher profile southern cases. Maybe there's just a lot more going on down south. maybe but I'm like how sad yeah but that she got three years probation she won't even go to jail she won't even see the inside of a cell nope that better not happen to and she made a book about the whole thing and went on a book tour of course she did she had to profit off of it really quick and then tell her probation officer that she has to work to make money to pay her fees and her fines period you said you shit in a cup I want to circle back to that what happened okay so I went through I'm going through, well, I already did.

So I, life insurance is a thing. I have life insurance. My kids have life insurance. And I wanted to get a bigger policy because I have a morbid mind. So I'm like, in case anything happens, I need this bigger policy. But they wouldn't cover me unless I went to see a gastroenterologist because I have shitting problem where I just shit myself in public. Thankfully, it's never happened to distorts.

Usually on the side of the road. It's truly diabolical. So I didn't go basically didn't finish my appointments, right? Is that basically what happened? So I start the process of going on my own before the insurance. But then I never followed up because I stopped shitting myself. So I was like, this is a miracle. Yeah.

And then I start shitting myself again, but I don't really tell anyone, right? Right. And go to get insurance and they see, I guess, in some kind of fucking medical chart that I had seen a gastroenterologist and never followed up because I stopped shitting myself. And then they said that they wouldn't cover me unless I go back. So they want to test me for celiac disease, which apparently is a fucking blood test. So why I'm shitting in a cup, I have no idea. Not only is it one cup.

Stop. There's five. The shit cups are in the fridge right now. Oh. I had to drop them off tomorrow morning. Okay. So one has to be frozen. And the four other ones, two are.

in liquid and two or not. And you have to have X amount of shit in the cup. Okay. But here's the kicker. They give you basically like a potty training catcher. So you like sit like old people. You know how old people have those things. You have to sit on that shit in that.

And then you have to use rubber gloves and the scoopers that are inside these cups to. And how humbling was that? No, because the way that I like try to make. jokes about it to make myself feel better and I never will and so I go to this appointment I get my blood taken and then she's like I have a goodie bag for you which was all of the supplies right and so I have a bathroom outside on the porch and I and Ike was like do you want me to do you want me to bring it out there for you and I was like yes please um all embarrassed and um he like stays in the bathroom and I'm like get out get the fuck out and we do shit with him in the bathroom no no I don't

shit with him in the bathroom at all ever like I just got comfortable telling him when I have to go the bathroom. Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. But you'll talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, but I was banking on the fact that he wasn't listening.

Got it. But then went so when we first started dating, I wasn't shitting myself anymore. I had been sober of shitting myself for like six months. And then I started, it started happening again. A relapse? Basically. Yeah. So I had to tell him.

Okay. Like, you need to. to drive over that median to get me to a bathroom. And he was like, what? And I'm like, I shit myself. And he was like, kill. So anyways, he's too deep into this relationship to break up with me now. So if you are looking for undergarments that are going to hold you together and be super

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No, I have no idea why I'm shitting in a cup. No clue. Cool. So that's where we're at. Keep us updated on that. Everyone's like this we're turning this podcast off. They're like, we're done. But yeah, so that was, that's the experience with that.

Okay, cool. Yeah. How's everything going in your world? Going good. Not shitting yourself? No, I, I haven't shit myself. Ever? Like I told you last, never.

A shart? No, not that. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. What's it like to be God's favorite? I'll let you know the second it happens. You'll be the first I tell.

But it's not going to happen. You're like if it hasn't happened yet, it's not going to happen. No. Okay. And you're not that much older than me. No, I'm not how old are 29? Yeah. And I'm 34.

Yeah. You know what it is? I think it's the amount of children that I've had instead of my vagina getting loose. My asshole got loose. That's what I, that's my theory. I don't know if that's accurate, but. Let's look into that. They did.

They told me I need to go to PT. Trisha Peta. said that she had her her vagina and her asshole tightened in surgery yeah i would totally do that i want to do they told me i do pelvic not pelvic floor therapy but essentially but for my ass like that's what they told me okay so there is like a thing for it because she did it before she had kids oh oh like for fun yeah well because she said on the podcast that she said on a podcast that she said on a podcast that she put a candle stick up her ass why a guy told her to for fun was just Did she have only fans?

This was before only fans, but she did have only fans. Did she? Yeah. With explicit content? Yeah. Really? During COVID. And it made her a lot of money.

That's how she bought her house. No. And you were at the house. Oh yeah, I did go to her house. I love Trisha. I think she's so great. I'm obsessed with Trisha. Love her.

Definitely love her. But, and her and Tanna now have a podcast together, which is your dream. Yep, my dream. I feel like you sent me other things. I didn't get to watch. Um, worst X ever. I didn't get to watch that yet. I watched the second episode with Wade. I think that's the first episode. Oh, of the second season. Yeah. Okay. Did you watch it? Yeah. Can we talk about it? Yeah. So, did you watch 90 day fiance? Which season. I don't know. I've seen a few. Because on episode two of season two of worst ex ever, it's Jeffrey from 90 day fiance. He's the worst ex ever.

Imagine they put me on there. You're the worst ex. Um, okay, so do you want to talk about the first episode with Wade? Yeah, that's the only one I've seen. I didn't, I thought that was episode two, but I guess that makes sense, season two. Um, okay, so what was your first impression of Wade? He's fine as fuck until he opens his mouth. Wait, so was Wade on drugs or was he mentally ill or both?

No, I think he was both. Okay. Yeah, because I think he was stealing money to buy drugs from his girlfriends. He really picked, so. The thing about Wade, it's Worst X ever. I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix, right? Netflix. Wade was all over social media.

I had seen him on social media, but did not realize what he was on social media. Like, I never looked into it. I had seen him, but I just kept scrolling kind of deal. They called him Deadpool killer. Deadpool killer. And I did not realize he killed people. And when you watch that episode of Worst X ever, they don't get to the him killing people. And he kills them back to back at the very, very, very end.

So you think it's just the worst X, right? he prays on vulnerable women. And by vulnerable, I mean, maybe women who would be easily swayed by this tall, I think they said he's like 6-5 or 6-6, tall, he's very good-looking with his teeth in. What? No, go ahead. No, because I want you to watch it back when you get home. Yeah, I didn't notice the tooth situation.

Go, Google it. See if it comes up on Google. And so he's praying on these women who maybe are a little bit vulnerable for whatever reasons that may be. So he steals puppies to sell to essentially go by drugs. He steals one of his girlfriend's car. He's meeting these women on social media apps and then convincing them to let him live with them right away. And that's why I say like vulnerable women who probably have not gotten attention from like a good looking six foot five person. And they overlook all the red flags because they're so, they feel so lucky to have somebody like him. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so.

he bamboozles them and the one poor girl I think it was like the second girl that they showed not that the first one the first one also suffered a lot by at the hands of Wade but the second one specifically like clearly doesn't have like a good stable home life because she then goes to live with her sister in another part of the state he convinces her to let him move in with her that day yeah yeah I get it I think there was on episode on episode four you didn't get that far but They had, it was a similar situation where he forced, her name was Karen, the guy's name was Scott, he forced Karen to move in. Like, he basically started getting his mail directed to her address without her knowing. And then she came home from work and this was like a month into them dating. And he was just there. And he's like, I moved in, by the way. And she's like, oh, no, I don't think you should move in. He's like, well, my mail has been coming here for a month.

So you can't kick me out. And at that point, it squatters, right? Yeah. Here in Delaware, I think it's like 14 days or something like that. It might be a couple days off. I'd have to look it up. But I think in Delaware, if you have mail and you've been staying somewhere for 14 days, you automatically get squatters rights.

And Delaware is like a four tenant state. What does that mean? Meaning like you would have to go through like an entire year process of like evicting someone. So do you remember the house that I was living at when I first, first met you like the tan one. That house I had rented out when I was building this one right or right before I was building this one. I was like, I'll just keep it because it was almost paid off or it was paid off. I don't remember. And then I'll just rent that one out and I'll move to Middletown and then I'll build this, whatever. I ended up deciding no sense of paying this big ass mortgage in this big

ass house. I'll go back to that house while this one because that that one was like $1,200 a month while this is being built. So I needed her to leave. Well, she didn't want to leave. because she was like my son only has like a year left to school or two years left of school or something like that. Don't really know what the full circumstances were. She refused to pay rent the last three months and there was nothing I could do about it because of the squatters rights and the tenants rights here in Delaware. So at that point, I just cut my losses for the three months or four months and was done with it. Wow. Because it would cost more in court.

To fight her. Yeah. It was even. And I think she worked for an attorney at that time. She knew damn well. So she knew what her rights were and stuff. So and she destroyed the pool. I had to get the pool completely redone because she opened it and never.

cleaned it. It turned, it was literally black from whatever was in there. I had to redo the whole thing. That cost me over five grand, um, or around five grand. And, um, but yeah, so going back to the Wade thing, he was so good at manipulating. I really thought, okay, maybe he just was like fucked up to that first girl. He fucked with every fucking girl. What was the killing rampage? I think that was when he was on drugs. I think at that point, he was like on a full drug rampage. But the last two, or the two girls that he killed, he didn't even know them. Yeah. So I think he was like, so I don't know if the drugs triggered a mental, like, or the other

way around. Yeah. A combination of the mental issues and the drugs, I think, sent him over the edge. And because at first he was just like a horrible manipulator and a liar to all of his exes, but he wasn't killing them. Right. So. But he was, he got abusive with them.

Yeah. And then was it his adoptive dad or his real dad that he called and was like, I just killed. I just killed a bitch. I think that was his real dad. If one of my kids came to me, I would be the same way as that dad. Like, I have to turn you in.

Like, I love you because you're my child. But, like, that is not, you don't brag about killing somebody. And these women had, like, families.

Yeah. And then you just killed them and just, and he stole the girlfriend's car. Did you, do you remember the part where the one girl was talking about how she, he like, he like, um,

tied her up and shoved her in the backseat of the car. And was she was on the floor in the backseat. Yeah. And he was buying drugs. with her in the backseat and was like shut up yeah could you imagine no what would you do well I can't imagine I was kidnapped but did you can you remind people of that story I don't think Rebecca's ever heard it that was like the the first episode we did on okay let's bring it back let's bring it back let's bring it back so yeah I was I was robbed at gunpoint um and they put me in the back seat of my car with a gun to

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Did they ever think it was you? No, because it was your car? No, because they, I mean, they had footage of the guys going into the gas station. Were you in the back? Yeah, they had a guy sitting in the car with me. One guy stayed in the car with me and one guy ran in and robbed the gas station. Did they take your money? Yeah, they did.

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Give me more money. Yeah, they were, they were, they were. were helpful through the whole thing. Oh, good. Because they had ATM footage, which the camera footage from the ATM that caught them standing next to me withdrawing the money from the ATM. They used that like on the news to like catch the guys. You were on the news?

I wasn't. But they cropped me out of the picture and they used the guy next to me. They used that picture. Oh my God. Did you ever see them again? No, because I didn't go to court for it because it was when I was working at Sephora in a mall. So I didn't want to remind them like their friends what I looked like because I was just picturing like if I go and testify against them, I'm just reminding everyone of what my face looks

like. And then if they see me, if they like catch me walking through the parking garage in the mall, like I just don't want to remind people what I look like. And they'll be like that's the guy that put my friend in jail or put my brother in jail or whatever. You put your fucking self in jail. Yeah. So I just didn't want to remind everyone what I looked like. So I just refused to do it. Did they not need you to testify to because they had enough evidence? They, so they couldn't, they didn't get jail time for it. They got, they got house arrest. Why?

Because I wouldn't testify. They begged me to testify and I refused because I was so scared. I mean, I don't blame you. Yeah. I was like, if I, if I wasn't like out and about, I probably would have done it, but I was, like, working every day at the mall and, like, going to clients' houses all the time. So I just didn't want to, like, put myself out there for it, which is why I didn't do anything. like in the news for it and you know I'll hop on a news camera any day but not for that not for that

because you're like I don't want them coming after me yeah I just don't want to like remind people what I looked like so I didn't for them because they could have retaliated you know what I always find so fascinating though is like when you see one or like more than one person committing a crime like you have to be so fucked up to do it in the first place but to find other people that are willing to participate or have the same ideas like that when there's multiple people or murder or like rape or anything like that like how do you express to somebody in your general come up in conversation and without the other person thinking you're absolutely insane yeah because i'll tell you right now like if someone asked me to help them bury a body i'm not doing it no like actually

i'm reporting you so don't even tell me you're doing it yeah do you know what i think you talk enough that i don't think anyone would ever but i also forget a lot yeah so it's like well i could because i forgot that you were robbed at gunpoint until you reminded me also so the hair thing or the makeup and stuff. Like my friend texts me this morning and was like, oh, good intro on the podcast. I go, oh, what did I say? And she goes, you don't remember.

I said, once it comes out of my mouth, I have no fucking clue. So I, you could tell me certain secrets, won't remember. Yeah. Other secrets, I will come on this podcast. Yeah. And I will share. I won't say who, but you know what I mean? Anyway, that's crazy.

I hope that nobody ever comes across a Wade. Wade Wade really lost his, he really lost his good looks and everything in prison. But did you know that you can smuggle drugs into prisons? Even now? Without, I mean. Yeah. One of my good friends works at the male, uh, male prison right here. You know, Delaware only has prisons.

We don't have jails. Really? No. We have no county jails. We have real, like, state prisons. Wow. So like, don't commit a crime here. Because you won't go to the county.

You should tell yourself that. You don't live here. I would love to go into prisons and interview inmates. I would love, I just, the psychology behind all of it is so fascinating to me. Yeah. Well, let's go interview Kenzie, McKenzie from the crash. Oh, fuck her. We're not giving her any more attention.

No. If she wanted Kim Kardashian to come to her rescue, well, guess what? The trailer park version is coming for you. I'm coming. Wait, that should be your thing. Because like, Because like, Kim Kardashian. Because Kim Kardashian is what, four girls, five girls, one boy.

I have the opposite. Yeah. So we are the white trash version, right? Like I will never have Kim Kardashian money. I will never have Kim Kardashian influence. But I can come into the prison and interview people. Yeah. And I will give you a trailer park edit.

Okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I see it. Um, have you been following the discourse online about like McKenzie Shurilla's dad? Yes. They all piss me off. They should all be in jail.

Yeah. Warm milk. You're making your daughter warm milk? That's disgusting. Like, just throw some goat milk in there. You know what I mean? Like, what are we just, what are we doing? No.

That, it's not milk. I can tell you that. What is it? I think it's code for something else. Really? Yeah. What does Urban Dictionary say? Oh, I don't know.

Should we? Yeah. We got a little. Well, no, I think they have, like, because everyone's saying, like, they have her and her mom are speaking in code on the phones. Big Latin. Yeah. So it's like,

What is, what is warm milk? What does that actually mean? But weren't those like regular everyday text or something? Yeah. You're going to speak on code on a regular everyday text to your dad? Maybe. I don't know. To me it was giving like creepy vibes.

Yeah. To ask your dad to come in and be quiet for warm milk. I'll tell you what. If one of my kids tells me to be quiet coming into my own house, but you can go to your dad's. I took that as like she wasn't saying like be quiet or you're going to piss me off. It was like, be quiet. quiet so no one else hears you.

Like that's how I read it. So that's why I think it's something creepy. And he's a Christian. He was a Christian school teacher is insane. Oh, I had Elliot watch something too, the nightmare upstairs. I had him watch that.

We already talked about that. I'm trying to think what else we could talk about that's, what else did you put in that sheet? Oh, Elliot just text me. No, you can read Philadelphia. Oh, yeah. Okay. I have a couple too.

All right. So this foul play says, my ex and I dated throughout high school, four years, and one day he just started acting strange, then finally just stopped responding to my text and calls. I get on Facebook and see pictures of him on a cruise with another girl we went to school with. Sounds familiar. Triflin. Oh, that one went way over my head. Oh, my God. You love a cruise?

I'm dead. So I drove to his house, keyed his truck, smoked a pack of cigarettes in the truck. and put them all out in the seats. He was allergic to the smoke. Cut up all our pictures and threw them in the truck as well. This was before ring camera, so he couldn't do anything about it. Then I drove to her house.

Not sure how I found out where she lived, but I put a tampon in her gas tank. So every time she pressed the gas, the tampon clogged up the system and it would just shut off. She had to get a new car. A tampon in the gas tank is new. Was it used? Well, I mean, it was a guy that did it right?

that put it in the gas tank? No, it was a girl. Oh, oh, oh, oh. The woman went to the boyfriend, the boyfriend, now ex-boyfriend, and then the girls. First of all, you have to be so fucking ballsy. At that point, just break up. Yeah. Just say, hey, I'm not doing this and block them because at least you broke up with them.

So, one, you're a better person than just cheating. But, too, like, she's going to find out anyway and it's going to be way more devastating. Like, just fucking break up. Yeah. For the year ahead, It's worth exploring all your options to make sure your child is comfortable, supported, and challenged enough in their learning environment. I don't know about anyone else, but me being a mom of multiples, I absolutely know that

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K12. com slash coffee combos. Have you ever ghosted someone you were dating? No. I've always ghosted. Are you serious? Not anymore. Thank God.

Yeah. But. Thank you, Rihanna. I don't think I've ever ghosted anyone while we were dating, but I will say that I did date someone that I regularly tried to break up with. Actually, two people. that I regularly tried to break up with. And they weren't taking no for an answer.

They were not taking it's over. Finally, the day before my birthday, 20, 20, within the last six years, I don't know. Finally, I'm like, hey, like, I can't do this with you anymore. Like, you sent this long thing like, you're such a good person. Like, whatever, whatever, whatever. Finally was like, he was like, I know your heart hasn't been in this for a long time. And it's like, I've only tried breaking up with you 12 times. I know who you're talking about.

Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The next one says, this guy I dated was very attractive. Like, not even kidding, GQ model looking motherfucker. Pistureesque body and all. I was 21.

He said he was 24. Red flag. He said he was 24 is crazy. And it was great. We'd go out all the time. He traveled for work as a videographer. Should I be concerned about I? Are the quotes in it?

Yes. Okay. Videographer. Well, one day my good friend comes over to me and was like, bro, I have to show you something and you're not going to like it. It was a video on a gay porn site of my current boyfriend in the shower with two other men going to town if you know what I mean. Come to find out he was a gay porn star, like famous in the gay community.

I also found out he was actually 20 with a fake ID. And this was after eight months. of dating. So not only was he younger than me the whole time, he was shooting gay porn every time he left for work and I had absolutely no clue. Needless to say, the next time he left for work, I packed up my stuff and left ASAP. Okay, you're gay, so I feel like I can ask you this. Number one. Wait, number one, why did the, how did the friend stumble across it? That's what my number one was, it was the friend gay? Yeah, you have to ask who found it. But like, it's, it's not saying that it's a gay or straight friend.

So it's possible that that friend would be gay. Okay. Like if you came to me and told me that my partner, I'd be like, oh, like, that makes sense because if you're on a gay site, like, okay. Cool. Do you think that a gay porn star could do gay for porn and not gay in real life? No. I also feel that way.

I don't think so. I also feel like to. I think. Happy pride, everyone. Happy pride month. Happy pride month. Um, I think a. guy has to be somewhat attracted to perform sex because he has to be like hard.

Right. So like, but what, like, what about Viagra? Maybe. No, you wouldn't do it. You just wouldn't do it if you were 100% straight. I don't think so. There has to be, but I think sexuality is a spectrum. And I think even if you're like one percent gay.

Then you're gay. Yeah. Well, no. Well, I think you have to be like at least one percent into guys. to have sex with a guy, even if it's for money. Because if you're like 100% straight, you're not doing it. Yes. Even if no matter how much money.

So I think you have to be a little bit on the spectrum. You can say that. I can't say that. That is how I feel, but I also, I don't want to get canceled. So like, that's how I feel, but I can't really say that. And you say, say it in July when Pride months. Yeah. Say it in July.

That's so interesting to me because I think, that there are straight guys who are confident around gay men and can be friends with gay men. And I think I respect that so much. And I think that's confidence in your sexuality. You just know that you're fine. I actually, one of my girlfriends, her son is, for all intents of purpose, I don't know what a sexuality is because he's a kid and I don't care. From what I know, I think he's straight.

He reposted a video. To me, especially when you're a teenager, accepting people. for who they are, I think can be really tricky because maybe you don't have a problem with gay people, but you, there's pure pressure and there's like, you don't want to be made fun of or whatever. And from what I know, this kid is a teenager. He's straight and he reposted Elliott's video about being gay. And I thanked his mom. Yeah.

And I was like, like, I really appreciated that because I don't think that Elliott really gets, like, maybe he does get talked about. I don't know. People certainly aren't going to talk. to me about it, you know what I mean? But if people ever talk about him, like, he does have like straight allies in his corner. And I really appreciate that.

And I was like, I literally saw his mom that pick up. And I was like, thank you for that. Like, that is so appreciated. Yeah. Because it's tricky, I think, for straight kids. Like, they maybe don't have a problem with it, but the other kids that are saying stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And I think it helps seeing, like another straight kid, support someone. Exactly. Even if you don't align sexually, you don't have to. You can still like coexist and be fine and be friendly and all the things. But I support straight people too. Sometimes they're annoying. Yeah. Sometimes.

But well, as long as they're not like licking from here to here on Love Island, I think it's okay. Yeah. Is there any gays on Love Island? No. Because they have to match guy and girl. What about bisexual? There might be. I don't know if there's been any openly by people on.

That would be so fun. Yeah. That would be so fun. Well, anyway, that's all that we have. for this week. I need to go tend to my toddlers and where can people find you on social? On Instagram at Z-Boner underscore makeup. Z-Boner. Yeah.

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