Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Coochie Routines, Cruise line Negligence & Intentional Conversations

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

CC334: On this month's bonus episode, Lindsie wants to know how y'all do coochie grooming. Also, was it normal in your neck of the woods to see same sex family members and friends naked? The recent ra...pe story out of the Bahamas has Lindsie and Kail concerned about the negligence some cruise lines might have, and Lindsie is convinced she could not do a solo trip. Listeners asks for advice on dealing with bed wetting, how to have intentional conversations with your spouse/partner, and for Foul Play - jizz is gross and don't shave while pregnant.. got it! Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month Hatch: Get $20 off your purchase of the Hatch Restore and free shipping at hatch.co/coffeeconvos Progressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more! Stitch Fix: Try today at StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say, thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship,
Starting point is 00:00:16 family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Convows podcast. I am well rested after a weekend of absolute hell and sickness in this house. And I don't know if my voice is ever going to go back to normal. voices ever going to go back to normal. Well, you look fantastic.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Happy Monday, everyone. Um, can I tell you what I did yesterday? Yes. So I always go and have my lashes lifted and tinted on days that I don't like me to see anybody and my brows. Um, I do the brow tint I used to do like the microblading and stuff, but then I don't know, I just like felt weird about it. So I started doing the brow tint and I wax. I know a lot of people don't like the waxing,
Starting point is 00:01:16 say it's bad for your skin and it's gonna age you. I don't like to see the little blonde like fine hairs underneath my brows, like I just absolutely hate it. But you look like angry birds whenever you leave there because they are so dark. And then on my way home, my girlfriend was like, hey, do you want to meet for like a linner? And I was like, yeah, but I need to go home
Starting point is 00:01:40 and get a baseball cap because my eyebrows are absolutely terrifying. I need to know if anybody else has this experience and like what do you do? Because you can't put on makeup to like make it look better. I go into hiding the day that I get my lashes and brows done. I didn't know it was an entire process like that.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I need to find someone who also does like, who does eyebrows, lashes and the tifton, tint, and lift. So far, I've only been able to find somebody that does eyebrows and then someone else that does lashes. See, I can't stand that. I have to have like one appointment, one person. Yeah, and truly would like to have it at the same place I get my hair done because I actually don't need to get my eyebrows done that often.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I mean, right now I'm due just for like the tint and stuff. But I'm also about to be due to get my hair done again already because it's there's so much regrowth. But um, yeah, I would prefer to just go to one place. That's why I stopped getting like my lashes done. And I was going to this one girl in Dover for my nails, but she doesn't do pedicures. She only does fingernails. And I'm like, okay, so Oh, shit, no, I can't. I can't can't. We're not, I can't do that. We're not doing this.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I need one place, coquise, do it all, get it all done. First world problems though, right? Um, listen to my voice. Do you hear that? It's like gurgling. I absolutely hate that word. Gurgling. What were you doing, Lindsay?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Nothing. I've absolutely been doing nothing, but just sitting my ass at home. And it's been kind of nice. You know what I tell you when I started watching yesterday? Yes. It is that new Netflix show. It pops up literally whenever you get into your stream, I guess is what it's called. Lover stalker killer.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Did you see it on there? So I saw a bunch of people posting about this and I put it on my list to watch because I have to watch it. I feel like that would be like a good thriller situation to like watch with Elijah this weekend. Okay. So I'm going to tell you just like one thing about it. I don't want to talk about the whole thing because you haven't watched it and we can catch up on it on another episode and give everybody else time to watch. But if you wanna watch it, it's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:03:49 This is absolutely crazy. And if you think that you have a crazy ex after you watch this, you don't. Is it scripted or real life? It's like a, I guess it's like partially scripted, but like a real- Based on a true story? Yeah, it's based on a true story.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah. And I know other podcasts I saw a couple of videos last night after I watched this. A couple of other podcasts have actually covered the true story that it followed like way ago. So- Do you know what podcast so I can go listen to it? I don't, but I will give you guys the updates and post
Starting point is 00:04:28 and give you the stuff so that you can post for people so that they can go and listen to the podcast too. Outside of that, please tell me why you guys aren't celebrating Valentine's Day. It's not that we're not celebrating Valentine's Day. It's that we, when I tell you guys and you, I mean, you guys all know, like, Elijah and I are together. There is no 50-50. There is no joint custody. There is no sending them to their dads and having an adult night by ourselves. That's not how this
Starting point is 00:04:55 works, right? Like, it, I haven't done this since Javi and I were married. And really, because Chris and I never, like, we lived together for like small periods of time, but we never like, we're officially like, officially moved in officially dividing and conquering, like it just wasn't that. So this is the first time I've done this since I was married, and I was divorced, what six years ago. So a lot of his parents are very much married and happy and still live their lives, you know, like they're living their best lives. And so we don't have a babysitter that we can use.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Also Valentine's Day is on a weekday. So the weekends are chaotic with sports on Saturdays. And so we kind of have to plan it out to when Elijah's parents are available. So are they celebrating Valentine's? And that's why you guys can't celebrate it? I mean, I didn't ask that specifically, but that's kind of what I was reading between the lines.
Starting point is 00:05:48 That's kind of like the gist that I got was like, we're going to celebrate on a different day because we're the ones that need a babysitter. So yeah. Yeah. And, um, you know, I have childcare during the week, but it's just, you know, she has her own life too. So she doesn't want to sit here and, you know, she wants to go out on a date too. Okay. So I know by the time everybody hears this she wants to go out on a date too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So I know by the time everybody hears this, it's Valentine's Day are going to be passed, but I've been waiting to ask you this. Is your kids your Valentine or is your significant other your Valentine? So both. I already have seven Valentine's. So what's an eighth one? So like Elijah can be my eighth one. I will say that when I took my kids to their dads last night,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I was really upset because I completely forgot about the time switch. And so I was like, oh my fucking God, I didn't give you guys your Valentine's because today is Sunday and then that day was Sunday and then Valentine's Day is Wednesday. And so I was like, I guess, not only am I celebrating late with Elijah,
Starting point is 00:06:43 but I'll celebrate next week with the kids because I bought them all like little cards and like a little treat and just very small because I've found times days like not super important to me, but I just got them like a little treat and a card and I'm, you know, just little, little things. That's cute. I need to know if anybody else out here that's co-parenting, this does not work for everybody because not everybody lives as close as Will and I live together. Like, I don't want to say live together because then people are going to start rumors.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But like, as close as we live to each other, it's like four minutes doorstep to doorstep. So I typically, if Jackson wakes up there on a holiday or something, then I will drop off something like special or sweet in the morning to him. So I at least see him. And also that's just something I feel like dads probably just don't do or think about.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like they don't think about the heart shaped donuts from Duncan. Yeah. Like I do, you know. Also Chick-fil-A does the little heart shaped, the little trays of the chicken minis, have you seen those? No. Yeah, so they do like the little heart shaped trays of chicken minis, cookies I think. I forget, there's like a couple of things that they do
Starting point is 00:07:55 and it's all themed. Okay, I didn't love Chick-fil-A and Isaac and Lincoln don't love Chick-fil-A. So that'll be cute, cause I don't have Isaac and Lincoln, but I still have Creed and Lux. So Wednesday, I'm gonna take them Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A, yeah, no, I love it. But I'm gonna go and get the little donuts from Duncan
Starting point is 00:08:18 and then probably like a little tray of chicken minis and drop it off. And I used to, when we first divorced, I used to be so pissed when I did this because I was like, ugh, Will's getting to see him do all of these things. And like, I'm just dropping off at the door and then I don't get to have the experience with him.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But then I kind of outgrew it and I was like, whatever. I also, was it Isaac? I think it was Isaac. I had that conversation with him last night. We were talking about, or was it Lincoln? It was one of them. And we were talking about, I was just like, we don't have to celebrate the thing on the day.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Like, and I told him in the beginning, it was really difficult for me, I said, but I think it was because 4th of July came up and we went camping last year and they want to go camping again this year. And I was like, I got to see with your dads because I don't know whose 4 Fourth of July came up and we went camping last year and they wanna go camping again this year. And I was like, I gotta see with your dads because I don't know who's Fourth of July it is. And he's like, I don't care about Fourth of July,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I care about camping. And so like that whole conversation came up and I was like, no, I get it. I was like, I understand what you're saying. I said, but I said, not worth the argument. And, you know, we'll see what we come to, but we don't have to celebrate the thing on the day. Valentine's Day is the 14th,
Starting point is 00:09:29 but if we celebrate on the 17th, so be it. That Father's Day, Mother's Day is on a specific day, but if we don't get to celebrate that day, oh well. As long as we celebrate it when we're able to, I think that's all that really matters. And that wasn't always my mentality. We started doing that too, and my therapist actually gave me that advice.
Starting point is 00:09:46 She was like, you can't just be committed to that day in time. Like as long as you are celebrating, it is technically the same. It just feels different and you just feel like you're going through a robbery, but it's okay. Like we did Jackson's birthday a couple of days early because Will took him to Florida and honestly, post breakup. For me, I've been completely off of my schedule.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Will and I have just been like helping each other out and just adjusting schedule because now nobody else has to be considered. And I just wonder if that was ever the case for you when you have been in other relationships and then get out of one if things changed with your co-parents. I mean, you remember football seasons?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh yeah, I for now. They were fantastic. They were so good. They were great. Coffee Combos podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. I cannot wait to do therapy this week. It is truly one of my most favorite days of the week whenever I do therapy and I think it has been so good for so many different reasons.
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Starting point is 00:12:27 Like a Brazilian? Yeah. Or like my eyebrows. No, like a Gucci wax. If you do this, are you doing it for yourself? Are you doing it for your partner? This was a conversation that I was having with my wax girl the other day.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I used to do it for my partner. Now it would be for myself because I don't care to shave. It takes a lot of work. I have too many kids to be in the shower for an hour. Wait, does it take that long? I have thick black hair down there. So like how many times are you running the razor
Starting point is 00:13:00 over that thing? I have to use clippers and a razor. Wait, back up. What do you mean? What is clippers? Like scissors? No. Oh, I need details. Like I don't understand. Like the ones that menus to like cut their hair, like a beard turner, like manscaped, like, you know, the tools, the instruments for manscaped, like the, I have to use those because it's just thick and there's a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And so if I let it go too long, I have to use clippers. And even still, I like to just get the really close. And I also don't want to nick myself. The razor, like a razor blade that you like would shave your legs with is too wide. So I use like a, like the clippers are like this where like a razor is like wide. So I use like a like the clippers are like this, where like a razor is like this. So it just gets kind of better in there. It also saves time, but it's just
Starting point is 00:13:53 it's a lot of work. That's a lot of process I feel like to be going through just go get it rid off. You have to remember I was pregnant for two years straight, so I couldn't see it. Oh my god, I need to know how many people had their like husbands or significant others shave them once they got to a certain point of pregnancy. That never happened to me but I just remember when I was pregnant I knew a lot of other people who were also pregnant and they were like, oh yeah, you're gonna get to a certain point and he's gonna have to shave it for you and I'm like number one, if you think that I'm allowing Will to come near my kuchi with a sharp object like that, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I have to say it like with Rio, I had only just met Alessia. So this is true. Like, yeah, you could shave the top, but I wasn't spreading my legs so that you could see up close and perc like that wasn't happening. Now I wouldn't spreading my legs so that you could see up close and perc like that wasn't happening. Now I wouldn't care. But now it's more just like he goes too lightly because he's scared of hurting me. And I'm like, this is taking entirely too much time. And also I'm scared of getting ingrown hairs if you're going to constantly go over the same area with the razor. I you know what, I would like to get vaginal rejuvenation right now, like just a nice little
Starting point is 00:15:04 laser. I have some stretch marks down there that I'd like to clear up, rejuvenation right now, like just a nice little laser. I have some stretch marks down there that I'd like to clear up, maybe lighten it up a little bit, I don't know. And then just go full, go back to full blown waxing because it's been a long time since. How does that work? The rejuvenation thing.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So from what I understand, it's like a laser that like, it like zaps it. And then you go- Like from the inside? I'm not sure. I did a consultation way before I had real. I think it was before Creed even and they just kind of do like the laser zapping to like tight. I don't think it even I don't know if it works but like I would just like to I have like stretch marks in my growing area. I'd like to like clear up or like light in at the very least. Yeah, I'd just like to go somewhere for a full what mommy mommy makeup
Starting point is 00:15:49 bag makeover baby maker makeover. Oh my gosh. Do you think that stretch marks are hereditary or you do? Yeah. Yeah. I know so many people that got stretch marks and they're like, I knew I was gonna get stretch marks because my mom got stretch marks and they're like, I knew I was gonna get stretch marks because my mom got stretch marks. And I'm like, wait, is that a thing? Well, I also think the severity of the stretch marks because people think I don't have them and I do,
Starting point is 00:16:15 but mine are so light and people will say, oh, you had a tummy tuck in 2016. Okay, and my stretch marks are, unless you like, like, because I still have them even though I had a tummy tuck, they're so light, my moms were also the same way. Like when my mom had stretch marks from me, my mom got big. She looked like a fucking house and she's small.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Like she's like small. A fucking house. But I saw pictures, like my mom gained, like, I don't know, she gained a lot of weight with me. Her stretch marks weren't bad. Like they were there, but like you really have to look at her. You know, she'd have to be in a bikini to see. Like, okay, I kind of see them and that's how mine are. I also know that like the way that you scar
Starting point is 00:16:50 is very genetic too, or like hereditary. If you have, if you scar really well and it doesn't get like really thick or dark, that can be hereditary. I scar very well. So like even if something is like super pink at some point, by like, over time, they go, they go virtually away and become like my skin color. So I only got stretch marks, like on the alps, a little bit like the outside of my butt cheeks.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But I don't really know if those were from pregnancy, because I feel like I got them whenever I went through puberty. That's the only place that I've ever gotten stretch marks and they're also light. But in the summertime, you can kind of see them a little bit more because my skin does get so brown that that's when you can kind of see them. They're not bad by any means, but you can just see that I have them. Yeah. I never got them on my butt or anything.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I started to get them in my legs where I gained weight like on my thighs a little bit. But again, you have to like really look to see them. Back to Koochie shaving really quick. So when I started shaving, sometimes Julie would come like in the bathroom wherever I was, if I was like taking a bath or taking a shower. And I guess she saw my vagina one time and she decided to tell my dad, like, Lindsay has no hair on her vagina.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Like, how does she even get in those creases? Like, she's gonna cut her clit off. And so my dad decided that he needed to have a conversation with me about this. And he was like, that's just like very dangerous practices to be doing that. And you need to show Julie exactly how it is that you're doing it, because it could just be, you know, very dangerous and we don't want any demo of how I got up in there. What was that like? There's just like no safety to it, like at all, honestly, it's just, hold on, it's just like, okay, like that, like you just like spread them and then you're
Starting point is 00:19:03 just like, but you didn't care to show to show your stepmom or your mom your vagina? Like you were like, okay, here it is. Yeah. Okay. We just always saw each other naked. Yeah. Okay. Like everybody in my house.
Starting point is 00:19:17 My mom used to walk around the house naked, but one time I walked in on her putting a tampon in and she was mortified. So I just don't, there was levels to it, I guess. I was like, I'm literally a woman. And I think it was like old enough to be taught how to use tampons. So like the fact that she was mortified was like, okay, are you the type of girl that goes into the bathroom with her friends and like everybody does the community bathroom? You and I have been in the bathroom. I've seen you naked. You've seen me naked. But like, do you put a tampon in when a friend's in there?
Starting point is 00:19:49 Cause I do. Yeah. If you were in the bathroom, you know this. I don't care. Yeah. Like we all have Kuchis. We all put in tampons. We, why are we hiding? People are like the headline, Kale and Lindsay are in the bathroom during
Starting point is 00:20:06 private times putting in tampons with each other no we were honestly just both praying like to heavens or the universe that we both needed a reason to use a tampon at that time yes we were like, please let us get our periods right now together. Like, let's sync up right now. Oh my god. Okay, so I have to tell you about this situation that I've been following. I saw this article on Inside Edition a couple of weeks ago, I saw some type of like travel advisory to it was issued in the United States for travel to Bahamas. Well, then I was like, you know, what's going on there?
Starting point is 00:20:51 What's dangerous? Well, then I didn't really follow up with it that much other than the fact that I was just like, okay, evidently I'm not supposed to go to the Bahamas, so I'm not booking any trips. Well, then I see this article come up on Inside Edition yesterday, and it says two women say that they were drugged and assaulted after crews stops at the Bahamas.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So it says two women have come forward saying that they were drugged and assaulted by a staffer two weeks after the US State Department issued a travel warning due to high levels of crime in the country. This was a mom's getaway, and it took place on a carnival cruise to the Bahamas. No kids, no men, just them.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And they said they were enjoying their vacation until the last day when they left the cruise ship and went ashore. They were looking for seashells on the beach when a staff member of the resort offered them a two for one drink special, which they accepted. They say that that staff member then said that he could guide the women to where the best shells were located. And a quote, one of these women says, we noticed we were starting to feel these drinks pretty strongly.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The friend claims that their drinks were drugged and that they have limited memories on what happened next. One of them alleges that they came to and they were being raped and that she remembers being pushed down and vaguely remembers the guy's face and facial hair. The moms say that they were both covered in bruises and tested positive for the presence of sedatives and other drugs when they returned to the ship. And this was, again, two weeks after the U.S. State Department issued a Level 2 advisory warning for American tourists to exercise increased caution in the Bahamas due to crime. In January alone, 18 people were murdered in the Bahamas and most were victims of gang warfare. And both of these women said-
Starting point is 00:22:49 18 Americans, like tourists or just people in general? It didn't specify if it was Americans or who, but there were 18 people murdered in the Bahamas in January. So both of these women said that they were unaware of the state's department travel warning for tourists. And they also said that after they left the infirmary to go back to their rooms, they did full rape kits. And that's when their families notified them.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It says the law requires cruise lines to warn about dangerous conditions that they know or should have known about. I'm going to stop you right there. I'm going to stop you right there. Last night, it is so crazy that you brought this up because last night, Elijah's brother, I guess they were having a conversation about doing a trip. And do we want to go on a cruise because it's like the most affordable option for so many people. I said, well, let me look because I didn't budget for this. Let me look and see. And I'll have you know, I went on Royal Caribbean and Carnival and neither one of them on their websites. This is last night. So the fact that I have chills, like I, you can't even see, I have my hair standing straight up.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Nothing on the website about travel warnings, travel advisories, nothing. And one of the ones that I clicked was Bahamas because again, these are the most afforded, like there would be so many of us that we need to make it affordable. There was nothing. So I'm gonna stop you right the fuck there and say, they're not gonna do that. The cruise lines are not gonna do that because they would lose money. Well, that's what I'm thinking as well. but I just think that that's completely negligent. This could have happened regardless if they issued a warning or not, but I feel like it's
Starting point is 00:24:33 important for your passengers to be warned and on high alert that stuff like this is going on so that they can be more cautious than they would probably be proceeding with if they didn't know this information. Two people were arrested, so there is an active investigation that is going on. And I say all of this to say, do your research about wherever you're traveling. If it's just a quick Google search to just see exactly what's going on in the area that you are going to. I don't care if it's in the United States, outside of the United States. That is so important.
Starting point is 00:25:09 This is the second thing that I've seen about the Bahamas. The first one, again, was the travel advisory and then this. I have never, I didn't know, but I just, that's so crazy. I would have never guessed. And is that not so horrible for two women to be, you know, trying to escape their children and their husband on like a girl's little vacay? And then something like this happened? Well, I'm just glad that they were able to one, because I, and I don't know that this
Starting point is 00:25:36 would happen if I had sedatives in my system, but I'm always like, even when I have gotten drunk in the very few times I have in my lifetime, I have always been aware of my surroundings. I've never been blacked out in my life. So I've always known kind of that when to stop sort of situation and even still like know my surroundings. So I'm so glad that they recognized what was going on and that they realized, okay, this doesn't feel right because I think that there are a lot of people who don't know their limit and would not have known Okay, something is not right like they these moms knew that something wasn't right and then on top of it
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm glad that they were able to get back on the ship because that's also scary to think about if Something happens to you when you step off that ship and the ship takes off They set sail without you. They're not they're not's possible. Yeah, like how does that work, Clay? And then further to even say, you know what? We are gonna go get tested on this cruise ship, which I didn't know that they had that, which makes sense because anything can happen. That's really fantastic that Carnival has the option
Starting point is 00:26:38 to do full rape kits and also to be tested for drug like sedatives because if something like that were to have happened to me, I wouldn't have known that I could go get tested for drug like sedatives because I, if something like that were to have happened to me, I wouldn't have known that I could go get tested for that or to go do a rape kit on a cruise ship. Like I wouldn't have known that. So in some ways, whoever these women were around or if they knew about this, like good for them
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Starting point is 00:28:56 It is so scary to think that when you are engaging in drinking or going on trips and you're just trying to have a good time that you have to be so cautious and you have to watch every part of what is going on. So if a drink is being poured, like I don't care who it is that's pouring it, make sure you're watching the pour. Like anything can happen and it can happen so fast. And I think back when I was in college and we were just reckless, like, we would go out to fraternity parties, baseball parties, and there would be, you know, kegs, all kinds of shit, like bathtubs filled with hunch punch in it, like, you name it, anything could have happened. And we were just so trusting to our surroundings
Starting point is 00:29:47 for absolutely no reason. Like we should have not been that trusting and should have been way more cautious. And honestly, anybody that's listening to this, that you lived that same life in college, our parents would have harmed us if they knew that that kind of stuff was going on. That I was putting a solo cup down in a bathtub,
Starting point is 00:30:06 getting hunch punch out to drink. The fact that y'all did that, I've never done that, but that's wild. That's fucking wild. Oh yeah, like frat parties were absolutely... What is hunch punch? Is that the same thing as like jungle juice? Cause I've definitely been thinking.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, it's made with Everclear. But I, when I made jungle juice, it was at my house. I made made it and then I put it I bought like a brand new Tupperware like those big totes. Oh, yeah And I like made sure it was clean not a bathtub. It could never I Mean, I don't know who was like Back in the day when we were listening to the music we fly high What the fuck? Oh, we're really flying high though. Were we doing like anyway, I say all of that to say just be cautious of your surroundings because you never know what truly can happen and somebody told me
Starting point is 00:30:59 the other day post breakup they were like Lindsay you should just like take some time and travel alone and truly just get to know yourself like being by yourself. That sounds all good and great in theory, but I don't feel safe enough to travel alone. Like my safety is inside the walls of my house. I don't feel safe anywhere else. I love traveling alone. That's when I've had like some of my house. I don't feel safe anywhere else. I love traveling alone.
Starting point is 00:31:27 That's when I've had like some of my best, most favorite trips. But, well one, you don't strike me as someone who would ever travel alone even if it was safe. No, because I need somebody to like share cocktails with, like good food. Oh, I want to go on a loan trip and just read my books. Like I want to finish a book a day.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Every, I want to be able to start and finish a book every single day of vacation. That is my new, like one of these days, maybe when the twins are a little bit older, I wouldn't go on a loan trip and just read my books. But like what are you doing on these loan trips that is so thrilling? I was sightseeing. I go sightseeing.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I go like when I went to my very first loan trip ever was to California by myself and I had been to California before so it wasn't like I was new to the place. I kind of was already familiar with the area. I went to a concert. I saw the weekend. I saw Rihanna. I went to, I stayed at the, I I went to a concert. I saw the weekend. I saw Rihanna. I went to, I stayed at the, I stayed in the West Hollywood and I went out to dinner. I slept. I ordered
Starting point is 00:32:32 room service. Like I just did all the things. I mean, I love all of those ideas, but maybe in more of a staycation form. So if I get bored not having somebody to drink a cocktail with or share like apps with, I can call somebody and they can get there like pretty quick. I'm not trying to do that in another state. I saw people while I was there and I like hung out with them, but I was there. But you stayed by yourself? Yeah, like they lived there and so it was kind of like, oh, I'll catch up with you for
Starting point is 00:33:02 like lunch and then I'm going to go back to my hotel by myself and then I'm going to like, oh, I'll catch up with you for like lunch and then I'm gonna go back to my hotel by myself. Oh, see, I can do that. Yeah, like go to the concert and then with you and like go back to the hotel by myself like that. Like the entire vacation wasn't by myself. Like you meet people. Like a self care vacay. Like we are actually perfect travelers for each other because we don't really like to
Starting point is 00:33:27 do the same stuff traveling. So you would be like on your journey and I would be on my journey, but then there would be journeys that we could be on together, which also wouldn't be on together because it would probably be in the spa where we would be getting massages and stuff. Yeah. So it's kind of like children co-playing like before they really know how to play with each other or parallel playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I want to do some of these things with you but like not necessarily like with you.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yes, correct. Like next to you. I want to do these things next to you, but not like, yeah, exactly. Do you remember that one time that we went on a trip to California and we went to the spa and had massages and kales getting like the cucumber water and I'm pouring myself a fat champagne? I don't remember that. Yeah, it was that, I forget, I can't say the name of the place that we went. It was for sparkle bands, but we went to the spa and we both had in Louis Obispo.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, I can't say that. We went to the spa and I opted for the champagne and kill opted for the water and I just felt like nothing describes us more. I also love cucumbers. Why do I not remember that? Why do I remember that? I was the one drinking and I remember it. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:34:57 My memory is so like, I'll remember the weirdest things and then I don't remember certain things that are like things I should remember. And it's a little concerning. Okay. I need to ask you if you agree or disagree with this. And there's a reason that I'm asking because I was chewed up and spit out on the internet and certain places on the internet about making a similar statement to this quote, but it truly is how I feel. The quote is, dating to marry isn't pressure. It's a purpose.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I wouldn't be with someone if I didn't see them as a potential future partner. Y'all should stop making dating seem like a joke, all for fun and cruising. Relationships are deeper than that. For some people, relationships are different than that. And for some people, dating, they don't want to settle down anytime soon. They wanna go on dates, they wanna get to know people, and they want to not settle down right now.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Some people don't wanna settle down ever. So I think to put just like a general blanket statement is kind of unfair because if I wasn't with Elijah, I would be the one that I just wanna date around. I don't, I just wanna have fun. If it was not for Elijah and me right now, I would not be dating to Mary. But if you have identified,
Starting point is 00:36:14 I think it is individual for whoever's doing it, right? So if your purpose is to date, to like get to know people and find things that you like because you really haven't identified that. If that is your purpose, then I think that you have to be honest about that purpose and you shouldn't be trying to date somebody who has different intentions. So if I say my intention of dating is to find a life partner and to move on with life with that person. If somebody else is dating me and that is not their intention, then what exactly are
Starting point is 00:36:55 we doing because you have an idea and I have an idea and those ideas don't match. Okay. So you're saying that this statement goes between the two people that are dating, not necessarily just everybody. Everybody, like inclusive. Okay, okay, because I took it as like, everyone should think this way.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That's kind of what I was worried about. Okay, so what you're saying is like, if my intention is to just kind of find what I'm looking for in a life partner, and Elijah's intention is he's dating of find what I'm looking for in a life partner and Elijah's intention is he's dating me because he knows what he wants and he wants to see if that's with me. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. So I would need to be honest with him by saying I'm actually just kind of trying to decide what I want and you may or may not end up being that.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And he's like, wow, you're the person that I want. Is that what you're saying? Yep. Okay, so yeah. Because then I think it gives the person that knows what they want out of life and they have identified that. Like I'm looking for a life partner. These are the things I want out of a relationship
Starting point is 00:37:58 and like they've done that work to figure that out for themselves. But the other person that they're trying to be with has not done that work and they don't necessarily know exactly what it is that they're looking for, which is not wrong. But I think it sets it up for failure from the jump because someone's going to get upset
Starting point is 00:38:17 and chances are it's going to be the person that knows what it is that they want out of that situation. Well, I would go even further than that too and say that there are people who, I have been that person that is like, oh, well, I can just change your mind. And so then I'm hurting my own feelings. You're being so honest with me
Starting point is 00:38:36 and I'm hurting my own feelings because in my mind, I've now committed to the fact that I'm gonna make you see why you want to choose me and that's not healthy So I mean I think that there is you know communication and making making it very you know well known and Like being very honest and transparent about the goals and the intentions, but there are also people like myself I mean I was 25 years old and I was like, oh you don't want to get married. You don't want kids right now Oh, well, we've already had a kid. So now I'm going to make you want to stay.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And it didn't work. And so I hurt my own feelings. I think that that is a dangerous game that a lot of people play, thinking that, well, you find yourself in a situation that you want to change this person's mind. But I think once you're out of that situation, it's easier for you
Starting point is 00:39:25 to reflect back on it and be like, what actually was it that I was doing trying to change that person's mind? Because if that's not what they wanted, why would you want them to sign up for you? Because you're never going to be able to give you what it is that you're actually looking for in the first place. Yeah, I've also been the person that someone was trying to change my mind. Actually, immediately following that one, this other person was trying to change my mind and I think that there was both parts of me that weren't completely honest about my intentions. Like I just didn't know what I wanted and I was like sometimes I was like, yeah, I want to marry you.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And then other times I was like, I don't want to do this. And so I was not being honest with myself and I also wasn't being honest with them. And so I think that there's a lot to be said there. It's just like, it could save a lot of heartbreak if we all just be fucking transparent, but it takes up awareness to be transparent. Just be transparent, be honest, communicate because I think that that is one of the biggest problems
Starting point is 00:40:23 in most relationships. Our communication styles don't match or one person is a communicator and one person is not. You know what I told Kristin last night? I was upset about something and I was like, I'm done people pleasing. I'm done because it always fucking backfires on me. And that used to be me in relationships was like, oh, you want to marry me? Okay. But I didn't actually want to marry me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:45 But I didn't actually want to marry you back. I would just go along with it, you know? No, I'm not going along with that. I'm not going along with it anymore. If I don't want to get married right now, I'm not getting married right now. If I don't want to do that right now, I'm not going to do it right now.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like I don't, I just don't want to. Have you ever been with somebody that you start dating them and you're like, okay, this person could actually be husband material, but then time goes on and The flags start coming up and you're like wait, I don't think this person should actually ever be married. Yeah Yeah, I already know the answer I just thought of feel Vaughn. Did you see the, do you know who Theo Vaughn is?
Starting point is 00:41:27 No. Oh my God, he's so fucking funny. He's like, yeah, yeah, I did, I think. Oh yeah, I have seen him. Let me think. He looks like Joder. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:41:37 What? Is that him? That's what I'm gonna, yeah, I did. Yeah, that's Theo Vaughn. I try to go on his podcast, but he ignored me, so. The Ovan, if you're listening. He ignored you? I hate that.
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Starting point is 00:43:22 I need to know your answer to this question. I'm going to tell you my experience with this and why I actually would never do it again. But this came from a listener and I loved it. Would you be able to not sleep in the same bed or room as your significant other permanently, not temporarily? Yes. No. No. I feel like this is a huge debate. And I feel like
Starting point is 00:43:47 so many people are going to have so many opinions about this. I understand that like later in life, I know a couple that was very close to me and significantly older than me. They had three children. And once all their kids moved out of the house, one person went to one bedroom, the other person went to another bedroom. They didn't like each other's sleeping habits. One person was a snorer, one person was a getter-upper all nighter.
Starting point is 00:44:19 For those reasons, I can kind of understand. I guess I can't put my head in that mental space though, because I'm not in that space of life. Like, I'm in the space of life where if I'm going to be with somebody, I want them to be in the bed with me every night and I want to be in the bed with them every night. I could go either way. I could go, we're sleeping separately in the same house as long as I know that we're good and it's not because we're sleeping separately in the same house as long as I know that we're good and it's not because we're fight, because I don't, I also am not one of those people that's like,
Starting point is 00:44:49 okay, we need to work this out before bed, but or like, we can go to bed angry and like be cool. Like it would, it would bother me if we're fighting and we have to sleep in different rooms, like that would bother me. But if we're good and we're just doing this for each other, like our own comfort, like I'm okay with it. I'm also okay with just sleeping. Like I'm fluid.
Starting point is 00:45:07 No, if you are in a fight and one person is trying to go to another room, absolutely not. If you don't wanna resolve this before we go to bed, then you can lay your happy ass right next to me and have to look at me, right? Yeah, I'm with that. I'm also with that.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I just sleeping on the same, I don't know. I just, nothing much bothers me anymore. When Will and I were going through it, I don't know that we had really come to the conclusion that we were going to get a divorce yet, but we were trying to create space for each other. And at first I decided that the pillow barricade would be a good idea. So I'm like we can both,
Starting point is 00:45:47 we have a king bed but we can both have twin beds and I'm going to put this pillow barricade like down the middle. You don't cross mine, I will not cross yours. Well then I think we both just got tired of looking at each other because obviously if you've been with somebody for 12 years at that point, you're still, I don't know, I can't speak for everybody, but you're still like attracted to that person. So then it's like, what do you do with the pillow barricade when one of the people want to have sex? Like, does it just go away? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 So then that gets freaking weird. So then I'm like, okay, well, this is obviously not working. So I'm going to go to the guest room. So I like pile up all my skincare and like my pillows, and I take everything to the guest room as if I'm moving in there. Okay. Why are you the one going to the guest room? Because he was like, you can just sleep in here. Or if you want to go to the guest room, you can go to the guest room, but like, I'm not leaving this bed. And it's like, okay, so basically you were trying to pigeonhole me into this bed because
Starting point is 00:46:54 you know this is where I want to sleep. You know, I don't want to be the one that has to leave, but you're going to make me leave if I'm the one who wants to do it, or I can just lay my happy ass down and go to bed. So I go into the guest room, honestly slept like absolution in there. And I don't know if it was a combo of the bed was just different and I liked my bed,
Starting point is 00:47:14 or if it was the fact that he wasn't there. But I am pretty sure that that's what drove like the final nail in the coffin for the marriage, because like I did all my divorce plans and there at night. What do you mean? drove like the final nail in the coffin for the marriage because like I did all my divorce plans and they're at night. What do you mean? Like that's when I would email my attorney.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Shut the fuck up. And created my parenting plan in that guest room. You were like, okay, I'm gonna sleep well in this guest room. I'm also gonna create the parenting plan. I'm also gonna just let my attorney know what's up. Meanwhile, this is so dumb and nobody beat me up for this, but Will would still like come by,
Starting point is 00:47:50 he would do like little drive-bys on the guest room. What? What kind of, y'all are so weird. Y'all are so weird. I know, we're so weird. He would do little drive-bys on the guest room and then sometimes he would like come in there and sleep and then maybe like a couple hours and then he would go back to the other bed. But then for that you could have just been in the regular bed? No, I know. I think he was just trying to prove a point to me that like he was not getting out of
Starting point is 00:48:18 that bed. Okay, Willard. Willard, I need you to just honestly I'm like, so I don't have nothing to say. Willard, I need you to just, I don't have nothing to say. I know. Okay, so we have some listener topics that have come up in the Facebook group. This person says, does anyone have a bed wetter? My son will be seven in May and has never been able to not wet the bed. Just looking for tips. If anything has worked for anyone else, I hate making him wear a pull-up, but washing sheets every day is tiring.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I haven't experienced this specifically. I, before anyone messages and says that there's like, this is a sign of sexual trauma or abuse and things like that. Yes, we know that, but that's not the case for everybody. So I just want to like, maybe don't do that when you get to this part of the podcast. She didn't give any of that type of context.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So I'm assuming that that's not an issue here. The only advice that came to my mind was cutting them off. I mean, unfortunately at dinner time, like you have to cut them off on liquids at dinner time. So if you're eating at like five, I would cut it off. Like it's that simple. I have also never experienced the bedwetting. However, I think Jackson was three and a half or four
Starting point is 00:49:37 before he was fully potty trained. So we still wore a pull up to bed up until that point because I am in agreement. Washing sheets every single day is a pain in the ass. And until I know for sure that you can be in those little tidy whiteies and not slip up, then you're wearing a pull-up. Seven, though, I just, I don't know. I have heard of this situation before from a friend that actually got her child with a therapist to make sure that like nothing else was going on and then also talked to
Starting point is 00:50:14 their general physician or pediatrician. I mean, that makes sense. I feel like it doesn't necessarily have to be, you know, if you, if you rule out, you talk to a child therapist, you rule out any other issues, because it doesn't have to be like, something's wrong, it could just be, you know, something very small that you didn't know. This could be various different things like anxiety. You know, it could truly just be that they're getting liquids too close
Starting point is 00:50:39 to bedtime, like, but if you don't know, there might be a bladder problem, you don't know, like it could be something that's not even related psychologically or like, you know, from a child therapist. It could be something that's related to, you know, do your kidneys have anything to do with pee? Like maybe it's your kidneys or your blot, like we don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Something like, I don't know, but I feel for the parents that have this situation that is going on because that would just be so hard. And then to think about them going to spend the night somewhere else and still have the pull up, like that would be so hard too. So I'm going to be praying for this mom. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:51:20 The next person says, my husband and I have been married almost nine years and together 12. Lindsay once said that she wants to have an intentional conversation with her boyfriend or spouse besides the halusher day. But my question is how do you even talk about that with someone when you see them every day? What kind of conversations can you have that are intentional? I really need to know what to talk about.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Stop texting during the day. Stop texting your significant other during the fucking day. I am not trying to be mean when I say that. It's just stop doing phone calls during the day. Check in. Hey, are you good? Yes. Or hey, thinking of you, those types of things are fine, but stop having like basically just
Starting point is 00:52:00 like small talk throughout the day. Stop doing that. I 100% agree. Also, I got in, I would say actually an argument with somebody one time that I was with about having intentional conversations and not being so surface level because I feel like there should be more depth than that.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And if I see a pattern of every single day that you're saying the same things, then now I'm questioning like, okay, are the texts in the morning that you're sending are those just out of habit or out of true care and concern? Hey, have you got up yet? Good morning. Like, is that just a habit or is it because you actually care? Then it causes me to question absolutely everything. And when I
Starting point is 00:52:52 hear my day was good, it was all right, nothing new. There's not much that I can work with there. So are we just not talking? Are we going to find something that we can talk about that is just not talking or are we going to find something that we can talk about that is better than it was okay or it was good? In addition to the small talk just being eliminated from the day, texts and phone calls, since before the twins were born. So it's been, I would say six months. We have family dinner at least four to five times per week. Even if it's takeout, we sit at the table.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Nobody talks about their day until we sit at the table and Lincoln's question every single day and everyone has to be seated at the table is, how is everyone's day? And we go in a circle and we talk about our day. We rate it, you know, how many stars, why, who did you talk to, who did, you know, for the little ones, who did you talk to, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And that's just like what it is. That's what we do. Also, I went to Target the other day and I saw that there to, whatever. And that's just like what it is, that's what we do. Also, I went to Target the other day and I saw that there was, and I'm sure they have it on Amazon too, they have, and I don't say this to play the game every single day, right, but if you're looking for depth in your relationship specifically
Starting point is 00:53:58 and not necessarily the whole family, they have this game for couples and it has like deeper questions that you could want to like have like really just structure an entire conversation around. And maybe if like at night when all the kids are in bed or if you guys go out to a dinner like scribble down some of the questions that are in the box and have those meaningful conversations. I've only played the game I think once or twice and it wasn't in this current relationship. It was in a previous relationship because I was
Starting point is 00:54:29 having that problem too. That's an idea just to kind of get an idea of like what types of questions would give you substance. And I'll post a link to I'll send it to Kristen. I'll post the link to the game that I have but I'll also include a link that they have at Target. See, I am not one to want to text all day, my partner, or send memes and stuff that I see on social media to them all day. No, I might do that with my girlfriends, but with my relationship, I feel like it's important to be intentional and to use the time wisely as quality time. And if you've seen something, then at that point, you can pull it up and be like, Hey, I saw this and have the conversation that's in person. I love conversation starter cards. I have that game as well. And I played it with somebody and there's so much information that
Starting point is 00:55:26 you can find out about someone and truly how how they are and how they operate and the way that they think by just doing those conversations starter cards. And I know a lot of people are probably going to say, well, I don't want to have to have a card to have a conversation. Okay, well, you're not doing it on your own. So Well, that's what I said. If you don't want to have a card fine go buy it yourself and scribble down like put it in your notes app on your phone and When you guys sit down for bed look at it put your phone down. He does if you don't want it I mean, but also it's like not that serious. I mean if you You could also just like put take some of the questions from the cards put them in your phone
Starting point is 00:56:00 And when you go to dinner just like quickly glance at it and be like, okay, like I really wanted to talk to you about this. Like how do you feel about something like this? Or like, you know, for, I'll give an example that Elijah and I just had the other day. It was about something that kept coming up and I was like, listen, we need to have a conversation about this. I need to know what your in-depth thoughts are here because I want a solution, right? Like I need a solution to this. I need to know, you know, this is something I that
Starting point is 00:56:25 keeps coming up and we're not really making much progress here. Like what, what are your thoughts? Because I feel like every time it comes up is more like nitpicking or an argument versus like truly getting to the root and what are where, where we stand on this topic in order to come to a solution. And so it's just stuff like that. I mean, I feel like if you feel stupid with a card, just write it down. It's not that deep. I think it's really hard when you're in a relationship
Starting point is 00:56:53 with somebody though that doesn't have much depth to them. And I can relate to that a lot. When you are like deeper wired and then somebody else is just like a very surface level person and finding that common ground. I think at that point that those are the type of people that have to be so intentional because if you're not, you are just going to pull further and further and further
Starting point is 00:57:21 away and neither person is going to feel like they're getting what they need because this person over here that's not deep is going to feel like this person is too deep and this person over here is going to feel like this person is too surface. I'm in complete agreement. I think the game idea, the conversation starter game idea is absolutely fantastic. Good job, Kale. Go Glyn Coco. Coffee Combo's podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Let's face it, sometimes multitasking can be overwhelming. Like when your favorite podcast is playing and the person next to you is talking and
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Starting point is 00:58:56 article was why Travis Kelsey's bad behavior towards his coach discussed me for my son and daughters. And the article is talking about, at one point when sidelined, Travis Kelsey proceeded to hip-check Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reed. I mean, that's 30 years his senior. Kelsey also screamed so vehemently in his face that viewers at home could almost see his sweat and spittle rebounding off of his face.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And this parent was talking about how the helmet throwing incident and, you know, the coach being so much older than him, I don't think that the age, in my opinion, really matters. It's more about the position of the person and just general decency to another human being. The problem that this parent had said that there were so many children that were watching this, that were at very impressionable ages, and
Starting point is 01:00:06 that they were looking up to a man that is in a high place. And he was acting with aggression towards somebody that he is supposed to respect. And she just posed the question, like, what type of message is ascending to children that he has achieved the highest level of success and then behaves this way and I would just love to know your opinion on it. I'm torn on this. I also was. I agree, but I also, again, I'm teetering back and forth with, is it, and he, he fought an athlete, an influencer, you know, a celebrity, is it their responsibility to be
Starting point is 01:00:59 role models? I don't know. I mean, I don't, I truly don't know. I also don't understand why we're holding him to a higher standard. He doesn't have children. Travis Kelsey doesn't have children. Okay. Do I think what he did was wrong? Yes. Have I, have I done things that are wrong? Absolutely. Why are we holding the celebrity to a higher standard than a parent? Why are we holding this celebrity to a higher standard than the educators? I mean how many people are parents living in households where their children see fucked up stuff and we're not... Do you get what I'm saying? I do. I think that it's hard for other people including us to understand the type of adrenaline that is going on during a game like that and something that you've worked your whole life for and you have made it to the Super Bowl and
Starting point is 01:01:56 Your emotions are in it and that's not an excuse, but that is the real life Part of this. It's not okay, but that is what happened. I mean, to your point, right there, you can- I think that's what happened. I think that it wasn't a fact of just true and blatant disrespect. I think it was a lack of emotional control during that moment.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And I think that should be where we're, that should be what we're talking about. Does Kelsey need help with managing his emotions during high conflict and high stress situations? I don't think this is about kids. And that's how I feel because my son, Lincoln is a huge football fan. And because of that,
Starting point is 01:02:39 Lux has followed in his footsteps big time. I'll say this, I was reading a book during that part, so I didn't actually see it in real time. It was only after the fact that Lincoln was like, did you see that and like demonstrated to Elijah what exactly played out and nothing about that. My first thought as a mom and I was right there, I didn't think, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:03:02 my 10 year old is now gonna do that. Like that never crossed my mind because I know that Javi and I do our job at home when it comes to sportsmanship and really just being parents and sports parents as a whole, we do our job. So I'm not worried about Travis Kelsey making a mistake on TV and making that
Starting point is 01:03:21 become the standard for sportsmanship. I'm not even concerned even in the slightest about Lux, who's six years old and very impressionable. I would say more so impressionable than Lincoln. I would, that never crossed my mind as a parent. So I just feel like in this situation, there is a bigger issue with Travis and managing emotions. And Kristen let us know that him and Andy handled this,
Starting point is 01:03:44 addressed this after the Super Bowl. If your kids are going to see that one thing and their entire idea of sportsmanship and their entire attitude towards the game and managing emotions is going to be tested, there's a bigger problem. I feel like if parents are looking at this it is actually an opportunity to share with your children while I understand that there's a lot of emotion that goes into this game. And if you're playing at that level, there would have to be an extreme amount of passion
Starting point is 01:04:17 for the game behind it. But it is super important to not get yourself in situations like that and to learn it, learn emotional control because now look at how everyone is talking about this. Do you want to be the person that everybody is talking about? So for example, there have, I have seen just being a football mom and being the team mom. I've seen kids have horrible sportsmanship and not that I would ever want to like point that out
Starting point is 01:04:47 to Lincoln, but in some ways we have. Like we've been like, you don't want to act like that. So this would be, that was really inappropriate how he handled that. I don't think that you want to be, you know, just like people, because they're gonna, the kids, the same kids that are watching it are gonna see it on social media, I feel.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And so I just, I think that whoever made the big deal about the kids being impressionable, I just don't, if that one thing is gonna change the way that your child does things or acts, I think that there's a bigger problem. And that's where I stand on it. And not that it's okay. And don't ever twist my words and say that I'm saying that what Travis said was okay, because I'm not. I just think that it's a different issue than children. I am in agreement with you there and I don't view him any differently from
Starting point is 01:05:31 this emotional outburst actually from an article on aol.com after Andy Reed spoke to ESPN. He explained that Travis called him off balance. I wasn't watching. He was really coming over and saying, just pull me in. I'll score, I'll score. So that's really what it was. He said, I love that. It's not the first time. I appreciate it. The chiefs coach previously told reporters,
Starting point is 01:05:55 the part I love is he loves to play the game and he wants to help his team win. It's not a selfish thing. That's not what it is. And I understand that. So as much, so much as, you know, he bumps into me, I get after him and we understand that he just caught me off balance. I, I would imagine that again, playing at that high of a level and being
Starting point is 01:06:19 that passionate about the game and wanting to take the win home, I cannot even imagine. I was talking to my girlfriend, we were finishing up watching the game and I was like, what are they thinking about? Like what is Patrick Mahomes thinking about in that moment? Like how do the fans not get to them? How does the fast-pacedness like not get to them? And I think that you would have to have so much mental control in that moment
Starting point is 01:06:47 that they're only thinking about the game. Like I don't think that Travis Kelsey, when he was going off on Andy Reed on the sidelines, I don't think that he was thinking about a reporter getting that. I think it was just him in that moment, in the game, in his emotion. Well, this also goes to show you that everything can be twisted because I didn't know that it was as simple as put me in the game, put me in the game. I thought that it was based off like he was screaming at his coach about something else like he was mad, but really it was like he wanted to help his team.
Starting point is 01:07:17 He wanted to get out on the field. So I also think that there's a lot to be said there. And again, it's not what you say. It's how you say it. And so that, you know, there's a lot to be said there. And again, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. And so that, you know, there's a lot to be said there, but I would, again, my original opinion still stands. Like, even if you look at the situation to your children and you're like, okay, this is why you need to be careful
Starting point is 01:07:36 about what you say and how you say it, because it can be looked at or perceived this way, perceived, not perceived. Perceived this thing and that's not actually what it was. You know what I mean? Yep. And on that note, I am going to let you read foul play. Perfect. Oh my gosh, I never thought I'd run it right in for one of these, but here we are. I think you keep all of these anonymous, but just feel that I should double ask. This happened last night and I immediately knew I had to write in.
Starting point is 01:08:05 My husband and I have been married for almost eight years and we have two kids. We moved out of our house and into an RV for a short time while we find another. Well, the time came to christen the RV and the stress of moving things were built up for a while. Things were hot and heavy for a while and he sometimes likes to go as close to the edge
Starting point is 01:08:23 as he can, as many times as he he can before putting on a condom. Yes, I know it is not the right way to use them, but it works for us. Well, last night he pushed it too far and ended up coming before he meant to. He was on top and all of a sudden he pulled out and said, oh no, and I knew it was over. It was completely dark, so I was just guessing when all of a sudden I felt something wet on his face. I reached up and felt his face and his face was wet too. I said, what the fuck is happening? He said, I think I just came on my own face.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I was dying laughing because he gets so grossed out by cum and he was completely frozen on top of me trying not to gag and figure out what to do. He finally got up and got a light and low and behold, it was literally everywhere in his hair, beard, mouth, everywhere, my hair, eyebrows, neck and face. Evidently, he pinched the tip to try to stop it when he had gone too far and it kinked like a water hose. We were both cracking up and he just said, well, that's a first. We cleaned up and went to bed and I don't think it'll ever, he'll ever be the same. I've never heard of this happening before, but definitely we'll go down in history of our marriage book. Thanks ladies. Love listening
Starting point is 01:09:32 to the podcast every week and I hope you think this is as hilarious as we did. I have no words because I've also been with men who think that their own semen is disgusting. And I never understood that. But like I I also wouldn't necessarily like, like, you wouldn't spit on your own face. So why would you jizz on your own face? You know what I mean? I mean, if they think it's disgusting, then why do they want to like, blow loads in you and any crevice? What is like with men and come like, it's like, okay, I'm grossed out to put it on my own, like in my own body. Like, but I'm going to do it to you like okay I'm grossed out to put it on my own like in my own body like but I'm gonna do it to you but I'm gonna do it to you I want it all over you but is
Starting point is 01:10:09 it a territorial thing like I always have wondered that like somebody who pulls out and then just like wants to put it everywhere is that territory or is that immaturity like what is that both you know what I'm talking about like No, I know I also my ex didn't want it touched like he didn't even like if it touched the side of his leg Like after he like wait what did it touch his hand? Oh, no, he did not like it on his hand You know how like if you how did he get it Like he basically wanted to just like blow it in me and then that was it. Like he didn't want to like, he didn't or like on me
Starting point is 01:10:50 but like he wouldn't want it on his hand or like, you know when they like drop it afterwards and then it like, oh maybe a little bit will go on on like his thigh, like he would be so grossed out by that. And I'm like, it's literally yours. Yeah, like it came out of you but he wasn't grossed out by that. And I'm like, it's literally yours. Yeah, like it came out of you. But he wasn't grossed out by yours. He wasn't grossed out to put his on me or by mine. So it's like, again, I think it's like immaturity and also territorial, like it's just like, okay, but
Starting point is 01:11:15 I just need to get back to this RV story, like, the RV shape. RVs are not, they don't have a lot of room in them. So also like, if it got on your face, your hair, his face, his hair, it's probably on the ceiling of this fucking RV. Oh my God. Can you just imagine? We both said the same thing. Can you just imagine waking up and just finding
Starting point is 01:11:37 crustace around and it's like, oh, that was just his cum? Where it's like dried, just like crustace. Why are you looking like that? Because I'm just like. Disgusted. Yeah. But do RVs shake? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Like how do you have two kids in an RV? I don't know what type of sex these people are having. If it's like silent and like really slow. So some people, if they're living in the RV while they find a new house, they probably have like stabilizers. So like, for example, when I have five kids in my RV, we went camping last year, we got, we had the stabilizers that are like, so you can have the RV by itself, but you can also
Starting point is 01:12:17 have like extra support, you can put extra support under it. So you sang. Or then it wouldn't rock. The fact that you said they probably had stabilizers. Like. Well, because if they're in there for a long period of time, they probably don't want it to rock a lot. You know what I mean? Like they don't want,
Starting point is 01:12:36 because I know that people will like live in an RV while they build a house or like, you know, stuff like that. And so if you're in it for longer than a couple of days, then you would probably want more support. I just don't know what type of sex like RV people are having that like they can pull it off with children in there, but I can just tell you. Well, also my bedroom, like the master bedroom in my RV and my kids bedroom, like the front of the RV, like closest to the vehicle, is the master.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And then the one furthest away on the complete opposite end is the kids room with four beds in it. So you're saying that you have Chris and your RV as well? I don't actually know. Let me ask Alasha. What are you saying? Have we ever? Did we Chris and I wonder if you'll know what that means?
Starting point is 01:13:21 we ever. I wonder if you'll know what that means. Hey, did we ever christen our RV? Yes. Okay, Meanie there. Lindsay asked and I didn't know. Alright, thanks. Love you. Okay, love you, bye.
Starting point is 01:13:44 What did he say we can? He said, I mean, we can. Oh my God. I just, I don't know. Next foul play. Hello ladies, I love listening every week and I have a perfect foul play for you and a PSA to any woman in the world that is pregnant right now. I was seven and a half months pregnant with my second pregnancy. I should start by saying that the third trimester was new to me even though it was my second pregnancy. I had my daughter at 28 weeks, so I didn't get to experience the third trimester with her.
Starting point is 01:14:14 So my second pregnancy with my son felt like the first time. Anyway, I was showering before work one morning and I decided to shave my cat. We didn't even read these before and we were talking about this. This is so weird. Anyway, so anyone who has been pregnant knows how hard it is to accomplish that when you were seven and a half months pregnant. I proceeded to attempt and felt a bump on my cat lip. I couldn't see down there and I didn't think to grab a mirror, take a look with my phone. So me,
Starting point is 01:14:41 being me, I started messing with it, trying to pop whatever it was. I ended up popping it and felt a warm sensation running down my leg and looked down to see blood pouring out of me. I immediately called my husband to help me. And of course, he thought I was in labor. I told him that I knew what happened and that I needed a towel. He handed me one to put pressure on my cat and got another one to wipe me up and clean the floor. I had an OB appointment a couple of days later and found out that it was a cluster of varicose veins that created a blood blister. I had no idea that this could even happen, but I can assure you I didn't mess with anything down there after that. So moral of the story, don't be popping anything on your cat in your third trimester pregnancy. Love you ladies. Hope you enjoyed my horror
Starting point is 01:15:22 story. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, don't be popping anything on your cat, period. Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't, nope, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Like if I ever have had like an ingrown hair from waxing or anything like that, I just go to the wax place and have them remove it because they're trained to remove ingrown hairs. Really? Yeah, like you can create such a problem for your cat if you go down there trying to do the work yourself. Actually, Kristen told me about this. She was like, do not do that
Starting point is 01:15:53 because you can get an infection, you can make it worse. They have the tool to remove the ingrown hair so fast. It's like 10 seconds that they can remove it out and you will be working on that thing for like three weeks and still not get to it. I, it's actually, I have seen people get like ingrown hairs and pimples injected. Have you heard of that? Wait, what? Yeah, like where they get so bad, like I want to say it's like more so like cystic acne and like really, really inflamed, virtually infected ingrown hairs. They have to go to the dermatologist and have them injected because of how bad they are. But I had one ingrown hair like at the line
Starting point is 01:16:35 of where like my pants are. So it wasn't like in my like cat, cat area, but it was still like I would call it like my bikini area. And it was so bad that I was like, first of all, I had no, and it was from waxing because we've talked about this before, like when you get wax and you rip the hair out, it has to poke through the skin again. And so sometimes it goes back under where if you're just shaving off the top, I think that's like different types of ingrown hair because the follicle is still able to like grow. I think it had a different type of ingrown hair than like a breaking through the skin kind of thing. I was getting the craziest ingrown hairs
Starting point is 01:17:10 from waxing at the top and I'm talking like, it scarred for grip. Like it was, you can't see it anymore, but. But was it because you were trying to get the ingrown hairs out yourself? Yeah, like it was bad. They were already like super red and inflamed and then I was trying to get them out myself and then you have to think like one, I'm not trained and two, even if I use like a tweezer or like my nails,
Starting point is 01:17:33 those things like we have germs. So like and we don't know what to pull them out. No, if I ever have one, I will just make an appointment at the wax place. I didn't do that. That's actually really good information. Yeah, and grown removal. I didn't know you could do that. That's actually really good information. Yeah, ingrown removal. I can't imagine having a blood blister on my cat, popping it, not knowing what I was popping, and then just blood going everywhere. I would be mortified.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah. If anyone's an esthetician on here, and maybe Kristen would even know the answer, if someone is prone to ingrown hairs like in their cat, their beard, even though I've never really get them on my legs. I don't think I can ever think of a time I got them on my legs, but like just like severe ingrown hairs. Is that like a bigger problem? Um, you only got it from waxing or you also get it from shaving?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Like you know how, I don't know if you know this, but like in the military, if you get like severe ingrown hairs on your, like on your neck from your beard, like shaving your beard, they'll give you a waiver to have facial hair because you're not supposed to have facial hair or like you can't have a full beard. Is it a bigger problem if you have that? Like shouldn't you see a dermatologist? I don't know because I don't know what really causes people to have it. Maybe it's just like the way that their hair grows or something.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I don't know. I only get an ingrown hair, like, on occasion. And I think it's pretty common with waxing to get it. And that's why they harp about exfoliate, exfoliate, exfoliate, because you have to, to like give room for the hair to come through to break through. I do like regular routine waxing. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I think that is the key. If you're going to wax to wax your cat on a schedule and they will remove like during my waxes if there are any type of like ingrown hair or anything like that, she removes it at that appointment. Does it hurt? Not at all. I just I didn't know that they have like this little tool that has like this little hook thing on there and they kind of like press down on it and it gives it a little bit of pressure and they can like kind of like hook it out. I'll have to find a video. No, no, I'm not. Absolutely not a pimple popping, cyst popping, ingrown hair, pimple.
Starting point is 01:19:50 No, absolutely not. I love it. No. I love it. And sometimes to see those videos on like TikTok where somebody's like getting something out or like those videos of people getting ingrown toenails out on TikTok. No. Yeah.
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