Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Cute Now, Annoying Later
Episode Date: November 22, 2023CC319: Lindsie recaps her weekend Google searches and we are all concerned. Kail discovers Megan Markle was a good actress which surprisingly leads to conversation about our partner's annoying traits.... Lindsie and Kail share their thoughts about whether or not they force their kids to talk/acknowledge adults when they don't want to. Lindsie brings up a video that has someone saying Stay-At-Home Moms have it better than working moms and both her and Kail have some big thoughts to share. A listener asks for advice as she is debating on whether to have a second child, and both Foul Plays are worst case scenarios that have us gasping. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Embrace: Head to EmbracePetInsurance.com/COFFEECONVOS and sign up for pet insurance today Progressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more Skylight: Get $15 off a Skylight Frame at SkylightFrame.com/CONVOS
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I hate gift giving and receiving.
Receiving gifts is so weird.
What do you say, thank you?
This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.
I really want you to be in your feels, Kale.
That does not interest me whatsoever.
I feel very attacked by you.
A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship,
family, and life in the public eye.
I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
There's a fakery bakery around here.
Here's Kale and Lindsay.
Hello. You are looking phenomenal. I am looking like I just got out of a hot girl shower honey.
Well I'm happy for you because we love a hot girl shower. I did that yesterday. I did everything
exfoliate, washed my hair a hundred times, conditioned, did the shaving situation,
conditions, did the shaving situation, all the everything.
The entire confection. The entire confection.
Okay, when you shave your legs,
do you shave your armpits every time you shave your legs?
Yes.
Okay, me too.
But some people, and it blows my mind,
and I guarantee you there are people
that are listening to this,
that like polka dot shave is what my nanny calls it.
Okay, she calls a polka dot bath
where you use a washcloth and just like wash your body off,
but you don't really like get in the water.
And polka dot shave is-
I'm sorry, what?
Like a polka dot bath?
Like where are you-
I'm sorry, you bathe and don't get in the water?
Yeah, so like you use a washcloth at the sink
and you like run soap like on your
washcloth, wring it out and then you know do your pits, koochie and that that's all. I can honestly
say at the big age of 31 years old I have never done that in my entire life. Okay, I guarantee you
there's people that are listening to this that take what nanny fey calls a pokey dot bath. Okay, I guarantee you there's people that are listening to this that take what Nanny
Faye calls a pokey-dot bath.
There are pokey-dot shavers that will shave like a certain area of their legs that are
going to be shown and not shave the rest.
If I'm getting the razor out, then I don't care if I'm late, like I'm just doing the whole thing.
If I'm shaving my legs, I'm shaving the entire fucking legs
and I'm shaving both of them.
Like I'm not, I will say there are times
where I shave my armpits and not my legs.
Yeah, I get more weird about my armpits
like then I do my legs.
But if I'm shaving any part of my leg,
I'm shaving all of it.
Okay, so there are some people
who literally will wear leggings or something
and they'll just shave the bottom part
where you would see that part that the legging cuts off,
you know what I'm saying, but not the rest.
And it's like if I'm going through all of that work
to be specific on that part of the shaving,
then everything's getting done.
Also, there's been times I wear shorts
and don't shave my legs at all.
I wish I could be like you.
Like I won't wear something that,
I have light here on my legs anyway, which is a blessing,
but I will not wear, like I'm not going out
with not being shaved.
Nor have I regretted it.
I'm not saying I like when I do it, but I'm just saying I do it and then I'm like, I'll look at someone else's legs and I'm not going out with no regret. I'm not saying I liked when I do it,
but I'm just saying I do it.
And then I'm like, I'll look at someone else's legs
and I'm like, damn, they really fucking shaved
to be out here.
And I'm at football with like hairy legs,
but like just a lot of work.
Don't you feel like it's such a flex though,
whenever you get in the bed and rub up on your man
and like your legs are so smooth.
And it's like, yeah.
Don't ever touch me in bed.
No.
Again, this, it was like a couple
of weeks ago when you said you don't like to spread your legs. You said they don't ever touch me. No.
It's like yeah in fact at some point at some point they did. Can I tell you what happened to
Trent and like I've never heard of this happening to anybody before. I took a hot
girl shower over the weekend, come out, we're just like lounging on the couch, we're gonna go out,
hang out with friends and I have these eye patches on and he's like, what are you doing? First of all,
I'm wearing eye patches and number two, if we are ever going to live together, like you're gonna have to like come accustomed
to me looking like this.
Because this is part of the process.
Like sometimes I might walk out with teeth,
white named strips, if I'm looking a little dingy.
Like sometimes if my under eye looks saggy,
these are going on.
Like sometimes I'm going to get filler
and I'm gonna look like I've been beat up,
but I was not in a fight, like just a fight with a needle.
You need to come accustomed to this.
So he's like, I want to see what those feel like.
So I pull them off and he puts the ones that I had on, on his eyes.
And I'm like, well, I don't really know like what good that's going to do because I had
these things on for like an hour and there's probably like nothing left on them.
He walks in the bathroom, me and my girlfriend are getting ready.
And he looked like, no, he looked like fucking Hitch.
Like...
He was allergic?
Yes.
And he was like, I thought you just said
that these were just like moisturizing gels.
And I was like, well, it says hydrating gels on there.
Like they're hydrating. Pretty sure he might be allergic to hyaluronic acid. And I'm like, well, it's hydrating gels on there. Like they're hydrating.
Pretty sure you might be allergic to hyaluronic acid. And I'm like, that is a tragedy because as you age, that is not something
that you want to be allergic to.
That is a tragedy.
Oh my gosh.
I had a reaction years and years and years ago, probably when
FabFitFun first started.
Yeah.
I remember this.
Yes.
And it was, oh my God. The juice, the juice brand. Yes.
And it was so weird because I sent you a picture of it from my bathroom and I was like I love this
stuff and you were like good because I broke out. Oh my god. Like my, oh it was horrible. It was so,
I was like I can't even go anywhere. Like it was, it left like burns. That's what his looked like, burn marks underneath his eyes.
So crazy.
And I don't have, like I'm not allergic to anything aside from like bees.
So like I don't, for me to have some paba in some sunscreens,
like I really don't have, like I'm not allergic to anything.
So that's crazy.
But also he should look into the ingredients
so he could find out what he's allergic to.
There's literally like five things in there. So that's crazy. But also he should look into the ingredients so he could find out what he's allergic to.
There's literally like five things in there.
It's like vitamin C, aloe vera, hyaluronic acid, and then like one other thing that guarantees
not allergic to because it's pretty much in every product.
So I'm like, you know what?
Then evidently you aren't going to age like a fine wine, but not my problem.
That's you. I need to read you my Google searches
and I think you're going to be alarmed. Do you want me to start at the bottom? Like from
like the start of the weekend or the most recent? The most recent. Where do babies come out of worms?
Did you smoke pot or something? No. Are you ready for the next one? Yes.
Do worms have orgasms?
No, I think the only people that have the only creatures that have orgasms are like humans and whales and dolphins.
Like I don't think any other creature like has sex for pleasure.
Then what do they do it for?
Reproduce.
The way God intended.
Correct.
Wait, so did God intend for humans?
I'm pretty sure it was only for like reproductive purposes. I'm pretty sure.
Got it. Okay, well that's like most of creatures.
I could be wrong and no one tell me I'm a bad Christian if I am.
What animals do you look at their butts to determine the gender?
Cats.
Correct.
I didn't know I was playing a trivia game.
Go ahead.
Chrisley knows best, wrecked a Ferrari.
What?
I'll tell you on another time.
Latte art stencils, How is Ketchup made, and liquor store near me?
I've heard really liquor store near me.
We need a claw. We need heard really liquor store near me.
We need a claw, we need some truly.
What was the one before that?
What was the one before what?
Oh girl, cheers to the Elani.
You got the witches brew, cause you witchy.
I'm a witchy today.
Latte art stencils?
No, before that.
Before the latte art stencils?
You mean after that, ketchup? How ketchup?
Ketchup. I heard a little rumor about ketchup that we would all be disgusted if we knew how ketchup was made and what the actual ingredients of ketchup were.
And so I don't want you to tell me what your findings are because I never want to know, but I've heard that we would be absolutely disgusted. Well, what you're talking about was the conversation that we were having in bed
last night, and I was showing Trent these videos of how ketchup was made.
And I was quite literally gagging and I said, I've known this for a long time,
which is specifically why I don't eat ketchup.
Okay.
Yeah.
See, I don't want to know because I like ketchup with very specific things.
And I just don't want it to be ruined for me.
Like what do you put ketchup on? Tyson chicken nuggets, um,
specific, the dine, specifically the dino nuggets. Um, I'll put them on a hot dog.
I'll put ketchup on a hot dog, catch up on a burger, catch up on Lincoln.
Puts ketchup on his white rice. What? You know what we forgot to do?
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Okay, well, what do you have to tell me today?
I don't I just have a bunch of just random shit.
Okay, do it. So you know how
You know who Meghan Markle is, right? Yes, of course. We all know who Meghan Markle is.
No, I have to be...
Do you know who Meghan or Rock?
Well, prior to her marrying the prince, I had no idea she existed or who she was.
Like, I didn't know she was the prince.
Were you on suits?
Yes.
So, that's where I learned that she was an actress before she married the prince.
So, she marries Prince Harry, I think, towards the end of suits. That woman, Meghan Markle, is an incredible actress
and I had no fucking clue. I am admittedly wrong because I just assumed she was famous for just
being his wife. I had no idea how they met. I had no idea what she did before this. Like, I didn't
know. She is so good at acting and I'm so sad that she doesn't act anymore because I'm just discovering like who she is as an actress on suits
And I'm just sad because I'm like why didn't she stop?
Especially if they're like not right like royal anymore like she could continue and she's incredible. Have you seen suits?
Have you seen her on see she literally?
Just and she's incredible. Have you seen suits? Have you seen her on see? She literally just
completely embodies that role. Like you would not know. Like you like Harvey Specter on suits,
his acting is horrible. It's I cannot like he's like you feel like it's an act. Yes, like,
because you know pompous assholes in real life, like you know those types of people, right?
And like, he's supposed to be that but like he kind of cares, but like he kind of doesn't.
But his some of his acting on there and I think it gets better as like someone season
three, still. It gets better over time. But like, when I season one and two, I looked
at Elijah and I was like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to get through this because
his acting is so bad
But what is that part of the act? I mean, yeah, I yeah, I guess
Yeah, but I just was like I need to share with Lindsay because I did not know who she was and I feel so bad
And like I get it. I understand everyone's lives change like over time You meet certain people and you close certain chapters of your life and you whatever. So she's like no longer an actress. But like if she ever came back to the
world of like, acting suits, if she ever said, like, I would go support everything. Like I might be
like, you know how Taylor Swift has with these, like, I might be like, I was just about to bring
that up. I'm like this, this like epiphany that you're having right now
Definitely reminds me of all of the videos of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and people are like
Okay, you can tell me about that in a second one of my favorite videos
I literally got off on like a tick-tock rabbit hole of watching all videos, laughing my ass off at all of these women bamboozling their
husbands or boyfriends or whatever. And the funniest one
that I saw was this woman and you could tell she was from like
Jersey or somewhere she had like this thick accent. And she was
like, can you believe that Taylor Swift put this guy, Travis
Kelsey on the map and this guy moans and he's like Patrick Mahomes. That's
the same thing with you and Meghan Markle right now. It's
like everybody knew who Meghan Markle was before she was with
Prince Harry and I hate I absolutely hate more than
anything to see someone give up their career or something that
they have invested so much
time in when they get in a relationship. And I understand the royal family, like I get
it. But at the same time, like you're also a person and you also had a life before that.
So like why, why is that being given up? Was she, what other things was she in that
did she act in? I mean, I don't know of anything specific that she acted in other suits, but
But you knew she was an actress.
Yeah, I knew that she was an actress.
And I don't know, like, I just don't love the idea.
If I, for whatever reason, which is not even going to happen, but like, if I was
going to become a royal, the royals can fuck themselves if they think that I'm
going to give up coffee, combos, podcasts or the Southern tea, like, no, like, I'm
going to keep talking my shit
and doing whatever I do on a weekly basis.
And if you like me good enough,
then I will be part of the Royals.
And if you don't, then fuck the Royals.
You're like fuck.
Anyway, so she's in a relationship with,
if anyone who plans on watching this,
I'm not gonna tell you who she's in a relationship with
just in case, but I wanna spoil it.
But at some point she's in a relationship with someone and in the show and she asks like they're they're going
They're kind of having like a little a tiff. It's not even like a real argument and he's like, okay
I'm ready for it like I'm ready for the list and she's like what list and he's like the list of all the things
I do that annoy you and I just need to know from you and also from our listeners are
Do you guys have a list of the things that annoy you that your partner does? Because I don't have like, I'm
not keeping track. There might be something that comes up here or there that I'm like,
Oh, that really just irks my fucking soul. Like when Elijah yawns, for example, he like
makes all this noise and I'm triggered because Susie used to do that too.
So I always tell him, I'm like, okay, Susie shut up.
Like you don't have to make all that noise
when you're yawning,
because you're doing it on purpose.
You're not like-
Like you're advertising to all of us
that you're tired, if you're that tired,
then go put yourself to bed.
Literally, like, so like dumb shit like that,
or he'll, like there's like little things here and there that'll'll be like, oh that is or like his storytelling is like, alright, just get to the fucking point.
But I don't have like a running list, you know what I mean?
He's an every detail storyteller and that makes a good storyteller to me like I need to know all the intricate details of what happened.
They're not intricate. They're not intricate. But like, what are the
details? He called me and so he said this and then I said this
and then and then he said this and then I said this nothing
that none of this pretext, this preface, none of it has to do
with the end conversation of like what the actual T is that
like these details are semantics that actually,
like if this was a murder, these would not correlate,
they would not corroborate your story
because they don't make sense in the fucking timeline.
Like this is not part of the sequence of events.
Like I can't.
So anyways, I don't have a list.
Those are just like, specifically like the yawning thing
came to mind, but like I don't have like a running list.
And so I looked at him and I was like, do you have a list?
And he was like, no, but I think he does in his head.
So do you have a list for Trent and does Trent have one for you?
I don't know.
I'll have to ask him if there's a list of things that I do that he finds annoying.
But what's so weird is I have had lists in my past relationships
and my list increasingly grew bigger
as I started exiting that relationship, right?
100%.
Like things that they probably did all along.
I didn't really start noticing them until I was done.
Or I was like still.
But you weren't bothered until the end.
And that's why they say women stay in relationships
until they're done.
They stay in the relationship until they don't have
the same feelings anymore.
And that's where men and women differ a little bit
because I've done the same where it's like,
okay, that never annoyed me the first three years,
but the last year I want to throw your shit out the window.
For sure.
But with Trent, I feel like we're so the same in so many ways.
Like he's a super clean freak.
I'm a super clean freak.
Like the same things he wants done in the mornings.
I want done in the mornings.
Like he's not an overly morning talker and neither am I.
So we very much match each other's energy
and that regard.
And if I get annoyed about something,
I'll just be like, no, that thing that you did
was so fucking annoying.
And can you just not do that anymore?
Because it's annoying.
He's like, I get it.
It's annoying.
He said it's like five times.
I'm like, I just want you to know, I want to drive it home like all the way home,
nail it all the way in that it's annoying. You're like, thank you. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
Well, I will tell you something that I think that I personally do that is very annoying. I make
noises in my sleep. Why would that be annoying though? Shouldn't he be asleep too?
Well, he didn't say it was annoying.
He's like, that's cute, but I'm just thinking in my mind, it might be cute now.
But when you get pissed off, it's not going to be cute.
It's not going to be cute.
Like you're going to find either I'm going to find myself in the guest
room or you're going to find yourself in the guest room because that thing
that you think is typically it's the things that you find cute that end up being on your annoying list when you get over someone
shit.
Yeah, or like the newness like the honeymoon phase wears off and you're like, yeah, I
just don't love that.
That's not cute.
That's not a quirk.
A quirk, a quirk, whatever.
Can you tell me if you get annoyed by this? Because I am overly communicative.
Is that how you say it?
Yeah.
Like, I need to know all the details
and what specifically I'm supposed to be doing for,
OK, for example, like this morning,
we're going to have BLTs for dinner.
He has the bacon in the fridge.
And I need to know, okay, do I need to
get like white bread or wheat bread? Like type of lettuce? You know what I mean?
Shut up. When you could, if you like, like Elijah and I buy two types of bread, he likes
potato bread and I like Myers Italian bread. Like I just like the white, fluffy, soft bread. Like love it. He loves potato bread. You could do,
you could just buy what you like and then also what he likes and then you have
options. So what if you don't want to be wasters? Like we're not wasters and we
get two types of bread,
but doubt will eat like we're not sandwich eaters. So like I doubt that we'll
eat it again. Right. So I'm like, okay, which bread because I don't give a shit
Like I don't care if I'm eating it on any type of bread. Wait, so like a BLT is bacon lettuce tomato
Yeah, with mayo
But like so I'm not enough meat to like just have on a be like that's just not
You've never had a BLT made by me. First of all, I would never eat tomato or lettuce.
I'll eat lettuce, I'll take that back.
But tomatoes are more.
You've never had a tomato sandwich?
No.
Wait, what?
No.
My name would be absolutely appalled.
When I was seven at Nine Wood Street
in Honesale, Pennsylvania,
my mom made me eat a tomato
and I threw up on my plate.
And then she told me that I made myself throw up,
but I just didn't, I don't like it.
They make me gag.
So you don't eat tomatoes really at all?
Really at all.
I don't eat them at all.
But what about stuff that has tomatoes in it, like spaghetti?
But they don't taste like tomatoes.
You get what I'm saying?
Okay. I 100% agree with that
because I will not eat tomatoes on like salad
or like those cherry tomatoes that have that like popping effect.
Yeah, no.
It's like you bite into it and it's like, brrr.
Bluh.
Bluh.
Bluh.
We both go, bluh.
No.
Absolutely not.
I don't have any interest in that, but like a thinly sliced
tomato.
No.
On a sandwich will change your life.
No.
I'm also concerned that you guys are going to eat lettuce, a tomato and then
bacon. Like do I turkey to this? Like is there like a meat? Cause like I feel like
strips of bacon is not for like that is bacon is meat. Yes, but it's not like
we're not doing meat lovers. When you make a sandwich and you just put bacon,
lettuce, like there's no like.
Kale, BLT is like a coin thing that like everybody does.
There's not other meat on there like a tomato, like a like a turkey.
No, and if you want more meat, you just put more bacon on it.
Like me straight up went yesterday and found a little produce stand
and got some homegrown, not homegrown from us, but like somebody else homegrown them.
Tomatoes and do you like boiled peanuts?
Do I like what?
Boiled peanuts.
Boiled peanuts?
Yeah, wait, how did you say that?
Boiled.
Bold.
It sounds like you're saying bold.
No, bold peanuts. Boiled peanuts.'re saying BOLD. No. BOLD peanuts.
Boiled peanuts.
Yeah.
It's so good.
We got some spicy ones and they put them.
I mean you probably wouldn't think that they look good and they really do look kind of
unsanitary whenever you get them.
They pull them out of this thing and they put them in a, I don't know, like a pot that
you put on the stove.
Are you thinking of fried?
No, you don't fry nuts.
Yeah. Have you been to New York City and get nuts for nuts?
No.
They're like, I'm pretty sure they're fried like nuts.
No, these are bold.
Okay.
And you, they put them in big bowlers and they'll have like a spicy one.
If you go to a good one, they'll have like a spicy one and a regular one.
Okay.
And it's normally an old man out there.
And he's normally wearing his college football team
if you're going like in the fall.
And he only takes cash.
And he has marinated these nuts
like for a long period of time.
And they are so good.
They put like a little pot down in there,
dip them out, strain them out.
You know, there's little bags that you get like vegetables
and shit into the grocery store.
They dump them over into that
and then give you like two napkins
and then you eat them like as like roadie nuts in the car.
And they're so good.
We got some of those yesterday too. Like I'm gonna change your life. Like come to
Atlanta.
I think you're thinking of like nuts for nuts in New York
City.
No, I'm gonna take you.
You're gonna take me. Okay, you take me there and I'll take you
here.
Okay, deal.
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Anything else that you need to tell me?
So I just was gonna tell you that
I read this thing on the internet.
We've talked about it before kind of, right?
Like that we can deny people touching our children, right?
Like if our kids don't wanna hug someone or like whatever,
like my little cousin at Thanksgiving didn't wanna hug me by and it's like, okay, I don't
and my cut my older cousin was like, give her a hug. Like it's the right thing to do. And I was like,
literally no, like if they're saying no, it's no. Yeah. But also I want to take this a step further
and this might ruffle some feathers, but if my child doesn't want to say bye or hi or talk to you,
I will not require them to talk to you either. You won't? No. So give me an example. Like,
is this including like their dads and like their dad's families or like somebody that you're dating
or people that are in your home? Like my kids specifically Lux and Creed
have been slow to warm up.
Okay, so like they are, you know,
when they started preschool,
when they started to really be more social
and get into like activities and things like that,
you know, when we walk into the school building,
Creed has been at the school that he goes to since he was 12 months
old. And it's been a curriculum based, we've talked about this, right? Since he could talk,
we would walk that, you know, sometimes somebody will stand outside and like say good morning to
the kids and the parents and things like that. And I'm just like, Oh, Creed, like say hi. And he
doesn't want to, and I'm not going to make him, you know what I mean? Like if he, if he's not ready
to say, and same goes for like the classroom, like he would go into the classroom and maybe not
want to talk to the teacher right away. And now this year he's three and he's like so he has never
cried to go to school, which has been like a really awesome thing to like see the progress.
But for example, like I'm trying to think of an example like today,
I took him to the doctor, right? If he doesn't want to say hi to the doctor, I don't feel like
he should have to say hi to the doctor. Okay, so let me throw out this example because it's one that
I personally dealt with in a co-parenting situation. If you put your kids on like a FaceTime with their dads
and you know that they need to have that FaceTime
or like they need to talk to their dads
but you initiated it, not them.
And then they don't wanna talk.
Do you make them talk to their dads or no?
No, but I'm trying to think of like another example
that like family functions, I guess.
Like that's pretty much the only other example
that I can come up with. I just, and I know that there's like this unspoken rule that
like you spoke when you're spoken to, you know, you'd be polite. That's like the right
thing to do the pull, you know, the right and polite thing to do. But as an adult, there
are people that I do not want to talk to that talk to me and I don't want to talk to them. So why am I teaching my child?
Yes, you have full control over your body
and who touches you, but you don't have full control
over who you speak to.
I mean, I think that it's probably okay
as long as it's not to a level of disrespect, right?
No, never.
Like if it is a boundary that you're allowing them to set as children that they will carry
into adulthood, I think if done properly and not disrespectfully, that there's not really
a problem with that.
But I think at the point that it is like blatant disrespect, then that is a problem. I'm trying to think like if you're at a family function
and let's say your kid doesn't wanna talk to your aunt
or something, that's just like a random thing.
And they're asking your child what they want on their plate
and your kid is just so blatantly disrespectful
that they're not responding.
Then that's a whole nother issue. But when you're
talking about maybe they're not talking because they're not comfortable to do so,
then I don't think that that's really an issue. They're just very slow to warm up children. And
that's the best way I can describe them. Lux is a lot better now, but sometimes,
sometimes in certain situations, he will be a little standoffish. Now, if it's important to me, specifically for the ENT this morning, I told Creed before we
went in, we're going in there for your voice. I was like, you do have to answer when the
doctor's talking to you because that's what we were there for. If there's a situation like I took Isaac to get his hair cut and colored at my girlfriend
Taylor's salon and Lux wanted to go in there to sit with Isaac and they said if you're
going to go in there you need to be respectful and say hi to Taylor when she speaks to you
because that is her salon.
So there are like times like caveats to what I'm I guess, but overall, if we're at a family function,
I know by time we're there for an hour, my kids have been warmed up and we'll talk to
everybody.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So you're allowing them to have control in some sense of when they want to speak and
you're not making them speak when they get there, just out of...
Right, like remember, this was probably a year ago
when you said this, but like when you used to be on
Chris Lee Knows Best and there was like the rule
that nobody would talk in the mornings
when you all got ready.
It's kind of like that, like you just have like your time
and then like after my chaotic morning,
Kristen had called me.
I didn't answer because I was like,
it's shoving food in my mouth.
And when she texted me and she was like, call me back.
And it was like, OK, I know I'm going to call her
as soon as I get back in the car.
I just needed a minute.
It's just like that kind of thing.
Yeah.
I mean, I think when you know your children,
things that you might do and apply
and raising your kids might sound outlandish to someone else,
but they might not be raising the same types of kids that you are.
Because I was there.
So I don't think it would be there to say, oh, well, that's disrespectful or it's not disrespectful.
I think you just know your children.
Because Lux, sorry, not Lux.
Isaac and Lincoln, I wasn't like this, but they have very different personalities.
Personalities. Mm-hmm. and Lincoln, I wasn't like this, but they have very different personalities. personalities. Like Jackson, he, he's quick to talk immediately when his feet hit the floor.
And that is the will.
You're like, I need, I need a probationary period in the morning.
Yes. And talking about Chris Lee knows best, my sister and I are very much the same. And
like, why, why is anyone talking right now?
Like we're in here in makeup, so I'm not quite sure why we need to talk to do this process
the blow dryers going
Somebody's beating up on my face
If you need me text me and I will respond
Like when I get ready to do so, but do not talk to me.
Like me walking into the house, flying in from Atlanta to Nashville,
and my dad saying, good morning, darling. Good morning.
That's what would get me so, that's so funny that you brought that up.
Like when we would schedule, and I'm not the only teen mom cast that was like this,
because I would have conversations with like Chelsea
and whatever.
We would have these shoots planned.
We knew they were coming,
but it's like the second we see them pull up,
they don't wanna talk.
And it's just like, you're coming into this house
and like, we know we have a shoot and like, I know,
just like, you're pulling up to my house,
guns blazing ready to fucking knock these shoots out. And I'm just like, every single're pulling up to my house guns blazing ready to fucking knock these shoots out and I'm just like every single time we had to do a shoe I had to get used
to like 12 people being here and like 12 people like and it was just like I just need a minute
to like process that I'm about to shoot again like can you just like relax and stop talking
can you can you just shut the fuck up except for Patrick I was never like that with Patrick
I loved him so you. You know what?
It's so funny because they're there just to do their job.
And they're all talking, carrying on, having conversations.
They've probably all stopped at Starbucks on the way there.
You're just getting out of bed.
Trying to figure out what's going on.
You've wrangled children.
In my case, dealt with parents and siblings
also. And you're like, no, that in fact, this is the conversation we're not having right
now. Why don't you guys work on having y'all's private conversation, set up your cameras.
And it seems like my call sheet says that I'm supposed to be available at this time,
which is not this time. Am I wrong?
Can we talk about a little bit about the physical touch thing with kids? Because I have seen on the internet, it's like one of the most seen things regarding
parenting that I have seen, the argument of allowing other people to
kiss your children.
I hate it.
Okay. I just need to know like your complete thoughts on this because I don't hate it. We're very physical touch type people.
And as long as it's like within our safety net, it doesn't bother me.
Now someone else kissing Jackson would bother me.
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's what, yeah, that's what I'm,
me kissing my own, I kiss my own kids,
Luck still kissed me on the lips,
but other people kissing my children bothers me.
I think it's just not appropriate.
But like, what if, let's say you had a relationship
with your mom, for example,
and she was at your house with all your kids.
Would it bother you if your kids kissed her?
On the lips, yes.
On the cheek, no.
Okay.
Jackson has always kissed Will's parents on the lips,
like since he was a baby.
Yeah, but that's just their relationship.
But when you're, I'm talking like,
if my friends came over and like were kissing all my kids,
I'd be like, chill out.
No, nobody's kissing my kid in the lips.
It's my friend.
Yeah, no, but like a granny, grandma, me, mom, mom.
That's fine.
Like I think that's fine.
But just like random strangers, like kissing on my kids,
like my girlfriend, Callie, she has two little girls
and they, one of the youngest daughters, we had
all gone out to Mexican to eat and she came up to Trent and I and tried to kiss us on
the lips and Trent was like, no, you kiss on the cheek.
Like you kiss on the cheek, you don't kiss on the lips.
And I just think that that is weird.
Like when other people try to kiss your kids in the mouth.
Yes, agreed.
But I need to know what everybody else
thinks because it is a very common debate. Well, it shouldn't be a debate. Then one time on this
topic, I saw, bitch, what'd you laugh at? One time on this topic, I saw where this like newborn
baby had obviously newborn just been born.
And I guess I'm one of the family like kisses baby and it had a herpes out.
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay, that made me get like the heebie jeebies.
I saw this like a couple of years ago.
And I was like, okay, no, no, no.
Same thing for sharing drinks, like adults sharing drinks with my kids would bother me
because, and listen, I get it, cold sores are cold sores.
Like people look at them as cold sores,
but it is a form of herpes.
They do come back.
They are reoccurring most of the time.
And I'm not, that's not something that,
because I share drinks with my own kids.
So now if you're kissing my kid on the lips
or near my kid's mouth,
and then I'm sharing a drink with them,
now we both have it.
So-
I don't share a drink with anybody.
I never share.
I don't really like to do it as an adult, but-
No, my parents didn't do that.
Oh, they did it.
That was like a rule that my dad had.
He was like, I don't want to drink your backwash.
So like-
Isaac will not share a drink with anyone, not me,
not a sibling, not his dad.
He does not want me to share a bite off of his food.
Like does not want to.
Lincoln and Lux don't care.
Creed doesn't care.
But like I don't want other people,
like that point alone, what you just said about the newborns,
is enough for me to be like, do not kiss my children
and do not share drinks with my kids, period.
I don't care anymore.
Okay, when I saw this article about this baby,
like I guess contracting herpes from whoever kissed them.
No, I would have lost my fucking mind.
What do you do?
I don't know, punch them in the face
because not the kid, the person that did it
because you knew you were having an outbreak
and it can only be spread when you're having an outbreak.
So why the fuck are you kissing on my kid?
When you have a cold sore.
Like I'm not judging your cold sore, but don't kiss my kid while you have one.
That's just, that's valid.
I just feel like at that point you've crossed the line and now it's just plain disrespectful.
Not that a child's like more important right after they're born
than when they are like at three years old.
So it wouldn't really matter.
But they're the most vulnerable.
Yes, but like the fact that I just carried this baby
for nine months and kept this child safe.
Safe for nine months.
Got it delivered here safely.
And now you're putting your lips all over my kid
and gave it herpes.
Like I would be fucking pissed.
I have to tell you about this video that I saw
and quite literally the perspective really pissed me off,
which is why I want to talk about my love look pissed offness.
So it was titled,
majority of moms around the globe have a job
and have to raise their kids.
I saw this.
You did?
Did it piss you off also?
I didn't, I didn't stick around long enough to like have an opinion.
Okay.
So evidently it pissed you off a little bit.
It's a privilege to be able to be a mother as your full time job and setting
out instead of having to work a nine to five plus being a mom.
It's an absolute luxury that you can do that.
People who have to work a full time job or multiple jobs in addition to being a mom. It's an absolute luxury that you can do that. People who have to work a full-time job or multiple jobs in addition to being a mom, look at stay-at-home moms
like bitch, you don't know what it's like having a full-time job.
I say that no mother should be in the comparison game of my life's harder than your life, your
life's harder than my life. Motherhood is hard no matter what way you cut the cookie. It is choices
that are being made, whether they're choices that are being made because they have to be
made or their choices being made because you might be sacrificing one thing for another.
A lot of state moms are sacrificing their sacrificing an extra income so that they can
be at home with their kids.
And some people aren't in the position to be able to do that, to even make that choice.
And I'm very understanding of that.
I will say the time that I was staying at home with Jackson, I was the, I would say
I had the most level of fulfillment as a mother at that time, but also the most stressed
at that time and felt the most, most lost in my identity at that time, but also the most stressed at that time. And felt the most lost
in my identity at that time. And so I just don't know how that's fair to necessarily compare. Like
a mom who's staying at home all day with her kids and she's not going to a nine to five,
she's not financially providing likely to the household in the same way that that mother that
is going to a nine to five is helping financially provide.
But there's give on both of those things and the give looks very different on both of those
things.
So I know too, there's two people in my life that have different situations.
One was one of my best friends in high school.
She did not want to stay home with her kids.
She wanted to have the kids and she made it very clear that she was not going to stay at home with them.
And like at the time I didn't have a child,
so I didn't understand it and ask questions.
It was what it was.
Then I have my cousin who was the vice president
of human resources in New York City,
worked her fucking ass off to get to that position.
Very well to do, very good income. When she had her twins,
she had one, when I had Isaac, around the time I had Isaac, and then she had twins right after,
a year or two after. And she's been a stay-at-home-on ever since. I think that she very much sacrificed
pretty much everything that she wanted to do with her career because she was, my cousin is a very
pretty much everything that she wanted to do with her career because she was, my cousin is a very like driven,
wanna have a career, wants to work,
wants to have those things,
but in order to do what she needed to do for her kids,
she sacrificed what she wanted to be home with her kids,
if that makes sense.
And so there's still a sacrifice regardless.
Even with what we do, I think there's a sacrifice, right?
Like there's a level of,
cause we're kind of one foot in both.
But how can someone go out,
because this was from a podcast interview.
Yeah, I saw.
How can someone go out and say that it's a luxury
to be able to stay at home?
Let's say, first of all, you don't know,
you don't know anybody's situation, right?
So who's to say that these people are these mothers
that are staying at home with their children?
That they don't live in an area
that they can't afford daycare,
or if they have weighed the options
of what their bring home would be
versus what the daycare would be.
And if that doesn't match up,
then they have to stay at home.
Like you don't know anybody's situation. So why are you going out here saying that it's more of
a luxury and comparing those two things? That is not fair.
Who's to say, who's to say that that mom that's staying at home is staying home because she
doesn't have a choice. And she can't go get a job even though she wants to fill her own
cup and she wants to go work. Like there are moms and that doesn't make them a bad mom because they want to go to
work. It doesn't. It does not make them a bad parent.
So I think that there's a lot to be said there.
Or also what about the mothers who are full-time caretakers and their children
have special needs?
That's what I was going to say. What if it's a special need?
They are truly never doing anything for themselves and never getting
out of the house and having, and special needs are not special needs.
They could just not have like mom friends.
They might not be able, you don't know if they're filling their own cup.
So like maybe what these women were saying on this podcast, like came off incredibly
wrong or maybe we're taking it the wrong way.
But I don't think it's fair to. I know moms
that work and I know moms that stay at home and I know moms that are work from home and
I know moms that work with their babies on their laps and I know all types of moms. And
I can't honestly say that there's ever a time where I just like do the comparison game.
No, I just don't think it's fair to get in the comparison game and motherhood. My motherhood looks very different than yours
and we work together, but it still looks different, right?
And I'm not comparing to what my girlfriend's doing
down the street.
She works from home, has two kids in school,
her husband works from home, they split, you know,
whatever child obligations that they have,
they split those, but their life looks very different
in parenthood than what mine looks like.
So like, why are we out here comparing?
I'm just like, we should be cheering for everybody.
Like if you're working in a nine to five,
you're working for your stay at home mom,
whatever you are, like good for you.
Glad that we're surviving through this together.
I think it goes across the board in terms of comparing in
general, right? Like Kristen and I have this conversation all the
time about sometimes we get upset that other people can't handle
the same things that we can handle and what we're taking on.
But what they'll take on a fraction of what we're taking
on, it's not fair to get upset with them because they can't
handle where we put ourselves, you know, we're over, we're barely holding on because
we're willing to pile so much on our plates. And other people are like, no, I'm good where
I'm at. And this is overwhelming for me. But we're just like, why like, it goes across
the board. I mean,
Yep. That's exactly right.
And it's so hard sometimes,
but especially when it comes to motherhood,
it's like, you can't judge anyone's journey
and compare anyone's journey because you just don't know.
That's why I say that,
that saying you see all over the internet all the time,
motherhood is the scariest hood
that you'll ever go through.
Amen.
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because who who said we know what to do. But she says every day I go back and forth on having a
second kid, my little one will be three soon. The idea of being pregnant again sounds miserable. It was rough at the end. But emotionally, I feel like a piece is missing.
I thought of bringing another kid into this crazy world we're living in. And it just makes
me so nervous. Am I crazy? Is anyone else having this mental battle? I feel like that
is a common.
I think this is definitely common. I think you're not alone. It might feel like you're
alone, but I think you're more not alone than you think you are. I think if you're having those thoughts, it kind of goes
with the ones, the parents who are really hard on themselves and wonder if they're doing a good job
are the ones that are doing a good job. And I think that she's probably one of these moms that's
like questioning all the things and like wants everything to be perfect. And I've always said this, but I think more now since TikTok
has taken over the world. I always say you won't regret having another one, but you might
regret not having another one. However, TikTok may have a debate on that.
Why? What's the TikTok debate on that. Why?
What's the TikTok debate on this?
Well, I think ever since specifically TikTok,
and I'm not saying it wasn't going on before this,
but I think specifically TikTok people are opening up more
about how hard motherhood is.
Like, we're no longer pushing the narrative
that we want this white picket fence
with the marriage and all the kids, right?
Like, it's like marriage is fucking hard and motherhood is even harder.
And so we're weighing all the pros and cons and I think that's why Gen Z and the generations after
them are, that's why the birth rate is going down. Right? Because we're all talking about it.
There's no America doesn't prioritize families or mothers or you know child care. And so I think
all of these things are affecting people's decisions. But if you already have a child,
I personally hated being an only child. So I say go for another one. However, Lindsay has an only
child and you've loved it, right? I have loved it. But it was the season. I think that I you've got to look at all the factors that
are involved, right? Like, are you stable in your marriage? For me, after we had Jackson
and had two separations and two divorce filings, by the time he was eight years old, I need
to be self aware enough to know and mature enough to not put myself in a situation to involve a second kid in that situation
It's already
Not steady for the first one. So do I think?
If my marriage would have been where it needed to be and how do we prioritize our marriage over prioritizing just being parents?
I probably would have had a second child by now. Okay. I probably would have had a second child years and years ago.
Okay.
But I was self-aware enough to know that I was not strong enough
to get out of that marriage when I was still in it,
but knew that I didn't need to be in it.
So I don't think it ever really was as much of a,
I'm okay with just having an only child.
I think it was just the life phase that I was in.
I think having only children,
this might be an uncommon or unpopular opinion,
but having one child is really hard.
They don't have a sibling,
so you worry about all of the things.
When they grow up, who's going to be their family? If something happened to you, like who will be their family? Typically, you have like all your kids, they have each other. So if something happened to you, like my mom neglected the fuck out of me, right?
I didn't have the support system
of a younger older sister, an older sibling
to lean on for support in those times where, you know,
I didn't know where my mom was for days.
I'm home alone, I'm being left in, you know,
my room by myself.
I didn't have, my mom forgot to pick me up
from the bus stop kind of thing.
I didn't have someone that was walking that journey with me, right?
So like that was really difficult.
But I think to your point, even in those, even in family situations where there's not
an alcoholic or an addict, they still don't have the support if anything was to happen.
And I don't think people really think about that part of it.
And I think I do want another child because I know how lonely, I can't say I know how lonely
it feels because I haven't lived that because I had a bunch of siblings.
But I can imagine how lonely it feels and Jackson asked for a sibling now.
Like he's old enough to like love the role because there would be like the age gap between them where
he would probably love
having a sibling.
Oh, 100%.
Like yesterday when I was on FaceTime with him, he was watching this little girl, she's
probably three or four years old on YouTube Shorts and she had these little pigtails and
he said, wouldn't this be so cute to have a little sister like this?
And I was like, that would be cute and all, but they don't come out looking like that. Like,
No, you have to go through a couple years in hell.
Yeah.
Depending because some people, for me, I just never really thought about, I thought the newborn
stage was really hard. And I didn't think about toddlerhood. Now, I'm like, the toddlerhood
is where I'm like, I can't do this shit.
Take me out.
Yeah, take me out. But yeah, no, I think, I don't know. To this girl, I'm like where I'm like, I can't do this shit. Take me out. Yeah, take me out.
But yeah, no, I think, I don't know,
to this girl who wrote in, I trust your God.
I just feel like you have to trust your God.
For me, I ask myself, do I think that my body has carried
the only child that will ever be Earthside?
Because I did have the miscarriage.
So, and I think my answer is no.
I feel like I will carry another baby.
So I think you have to ask yourself that.
Like, do you feel like your body is done doing that?
And if the answer is no, yeah.
I think that you will know when you're done having kids.
I've said it a hundred times prior, like after creed, done having kids and done having kids and done having kids. No, not done having kids. I've said it a hundred times prior, like after creed, done having kids
and done having kids and done having kids. No, not done having kids. You'll know when
you're done having kids. Kids. Yeah. I think I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's
the universe or you just, I think you know. Agreed. So that's the answer on that. And
on that note, foul play. Oh God. So me and my boyfriend were
doing the deed last night. Our son who is five years old shares a room with us.
We thought he was asleep. I happened to look over at his direction where his bed
is and sitting straight up just gawking at us. We stopped immediately. He said what
are you doing? I said oh I was just trying to get comfortable hence the
moving around. He said oh then he proceeded doing? I said, oh, I was just trying to get comfortable, hence the moving around. He said, oh, then he proceeded to say, what was that noise?
As he clapped his hands together to make that collapse.
Fucking mortified.
Anyway, I absolutely love you guys.
OK.
Have you ever been on vacation, like not in your normal home?
Yes.
And Lincoln walked in.
Yeah.
Yeah. Wor worst case scenario.
That's why you very much investigate the Airbnb's.
Like, you very much do so.
You very much investigate the hotel to make sure like,
okay, this is gonna be a no sex vacation,
or it's a possibility, you know?
Sharing a room with the five-year-old would be incredibly hard.
For your romantic life, yes.
Incredibly hard for your romantic life. The advice that I'm going to give you is maybe
where you should feel comfortable in your bed to have sex with the circumstances. I feel like you
have to take you have to have couch sex. Yeah, go to the living room, right?
Or the bathroom. I don't know. It's like let him put it put you up on your kitchen counter like do something else
Yeah, because you just you'll never know yeah if he's up or not and I can tell you right now if I
Set up from having sex and saw a five- five year old gawking at me and clapping their
hands, go ahead and Lord, give me a massive heart attack.
Just take me out.
Take me out.
Next.
Hi ladies.
Here's my foul play story.
I have contemplating and sending this for a while now.
Oh God.
Back in January 2016, my now husband and I had only been dating for about three months at this stage.
It was Australia Day. We live in Australia. Well, what do they say? Like how do they say hi in Australia?
Good evening.
So we both had the day off of work. It was a really hot summer day, so we decided to spend the day indoor watching movies under the air con.
Is that air condition?
Air con. Okay, Interesting. Instead of AC. Okay.
Yeah. Air con.
I love that. Don't mind your business if I just start like walking around, hey, mate,
I'm sitting in the air con. After we had lunch, I started to feel like I needed to use the
bathroom. Okay. Are we talking about shit? Or as I am sitting on
the toilet, I start getting bad cramps really hot and nauseous. She has bubble guts. Then
I started feeling lightheaded and yelled out to my partner, babe, I think I'm gonna
faint.
To know the toilet.
Could you imagine to know I have never fainted before in my life. So I had no idea what to
expect. Okay.
I just need a pause for a second. They have been dating for three months at this point.
There is no shitting happening in a joint like communal space. I don't care if you're
at my house or I'm at his house. Don't shit here. I'm not shitting there. Okay. No, literally.
I'm sitting on a toilet and I'm yelling out because I'm about to faint and I'm about to shit myself. No.
Or fate while I'm shooting literally no.
Just as I yelled out to him I fainted. It fell headfirst onto
the tiles. I heard a thought he heard a thud and came running.
I was mid diarrhea when I fainted. So I'm literally passed out
with shit all over me. This man held my head held my head until I woke
up, calm me down when I woke up in a panic and then strip my
clothes off and put me in the shower and literally hose shit
off of me. I had shit head to toe. I was in a bit of a days
after that he put me in bed and called the ambulance. I mean,
the shit was so bad that an ambulance...
No, because he's bolder than I am.
If that happened to Elisha, I'm just calling...
I'm just calling EMS.
Yes, like I'm calling 911
while they're still in the bathroom,
while he's still in the bathroom.
I'm not doing anything because what if I do more damage?
And I'm also logging on to figure out
how to get a life alert so this does not happen again.
But I wonder what caused it. While we were waiting for them, he cleaned the shit off the
floor tiles. We have been together six years now, married for one. This incident clearly didn't put
him off. Love your podcast, ladies, from a big fan down under. I first of all, absolutely love
that this person is from Australia. Don't ask me why I just do.
We're going to go visit her in Australia.
It's a place that I definitely want to go and visit, but I can just say at three
months into a relationship, if I had those types of shits that were like going on
and it caused me to like literally the Lord thought I needed to be taken out.
No, literally.
And an ambulance had to come
and there was diarrhea all over me.
No, because I'm not cleaning that up.
I'm just gonna call the EMS and-
I'm not cleaning that up.
They can cut your clothes off.
I'm calling Hasmat.
Like, I'm, it has my teams coming
because I'm not cleaning that up if I did it
and I'm not cleaning it up if somebody else did it.
Mm-hmm, no.
I'm just busted. Okay, on that did it. Mm-hmm. No.
I'm just dusted.
Okay, on that note, I need to find out something to eat for lunch and I need to go bleach my
towels.
Oh, okay.
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