Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Dealing With The Past and Having No Regrets

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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I really want you to be in your feels, Kail. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. Good morning.

My little kitty, Kale. How are you? Good morning. I'm well. We're very well. How is everything going over there? You know, it has been an absolute shit show. For you. Had three kids in my house all weekend. And I understand that that is very minimal children and your home. No, but it's a lot. I mean, one kid is a lot. I don't do well with kids in my house.

The video that you sent me of the kids singing in the car was honestly so nice, though. Like that is what it's all about. okay but i have to ask you if you feel like this is an inappropriate rule so we have this rule that if the kids are in the car then it can be a cussing car so if they want to say like fuck or whatever it just has to be in the car oh it has to be in the car yeah and once the car stops and you get out you can't cuss i think it's fine um i you know my stories of trying to desensitize my kids and it's all about trial and error this might work for jackson this might not um i think so often my kids sing songs they don't even know what they're saying

so i personally don't give a fuck when it comes to a song um they don't really cuss anymore like ever since i over it though like yeah it's like so few and far between but sometimes it'll just be like an f-bomb from the back seat and i'm just in the front like trying to hold my composure because it's just so funny to hear a kid say something like that yeah my kids will definitely their dads will definitely remember when we were all singing shit oh my god we sung my neck my back we sung come girl let me see your body sweat something like david banner do you remember that song but like who did we think we were we didn't know what we were singing that's why it was fine wait did i tell you the one story about it was like a birthday weekend for me and i had to have been

maybe third or fourth grade and Christina Haggillera um strip jeanie in a bottle genie I'm a genie in a bottle baby yeah I did a I did that song at the YMCA talent show at summer camp I love that it was the YMCA talent show um this one came on in the car with my dad driving and it was just me and one of my girlfriends in the back seat I thought the man was going to come on glued like over genie in a bottle jeanie in a bottle is not that bad like it could have been so much worse but in my mom's car because we would go to my mom's on

the weekend that's where we really listen to like the hardcore shit you know yeah for sure like you were just jamming out and you had no idea but that was the fun of it was like as an adult looking back like we had no business listening to these songs but like they really they we were raised on these songs yeah what's that one where it's like about fucking in the back seat Oh, my God, ludicrous. You're talking about backseat, windows up. Oh, my God. We love.

Ripped pants in, rip the skirt. Period. Like, we were raised on these songs that we have to keep it going. But kids, no more now. Like, I feel like I say it's fine, but they probably know more. TikTok is scary, a very scary place. But Lincoln's not. He's too young to be on TikTok and Instagram.

I just run this. I have to tell you, I had a conference. I was telling Kristen, yesterday that I was going to have to have a conference with Mr. Will and Jackson after I got off of my meetings. So I do this phone conference with them. And it's like if you cannot, and I don't know how you feel about this, but like if you cannot manage your schoolwork, then that means that you can't manage your friendships. You can't manage your cell phone. You can't manage going fishing. Like if we can't turn in homework assignments, then we can't

manage any of that other stuff either. I mean, that makes sense to me. So now Jackson's cell phone is officially locked up in a safe. And I told him he was not going to get it back until his grades were where they needed to be and he could start turning in stuff on his own without being asked to do it. Yep. And if this continues now that the cell phone's gone, then we will just not be turning on college football all fall and it's going to be miserable for all of us.

I mean, to me, that's fair because you're like, you can manage all these things. You're just choosing not to. Well, Lux's thing was, so they get these books at school. And then I think every day or every other day they, like, switch him out. Well, yesterday, he was like, but I have the same books as yesterday. I said, but we still have to read them. I still have to sign your reading long.

Well, no, because my dad is going to ask me why you sign twice for the same book. And I said, but it's different days. Like, you still have to practice reading. but my dad won't be able to check the log because I don't go to his go to his house on school nights and I said but he's picking you up from school on Friday so he's going to see it and I have to be able to answer to everybody your teacher your dad like you have to do this because you have to learn they don't get it they don't want to they don't want to do they are so much more consumed with not being doing school work it's so interesting to me just the

difference is when we talk about school stuff from schools like where you live and schools where I live. Jackson never had like a reading log. I mean, he had this little paper when he was in preschool and you just had to like color a thing if he if he read that night, but it wasn't like write down what book you read or anything like that. It wasn't a log like that. And never in any grade that he's been in has he had ever a reading log. And I think that that's insane. He has to read a minimum of 15 minutes every night and you have to sign for every 15 minutes, but the books that he's been bringing home since the first day are a little bit longer. So it's taking him 15 minutes to read the one book, which is fine.

I think personally, I think they need to bring back the Pizza Hut personal Pam pizzas for reading. Wait, what? They had that? I was growing up. If you filled out your reading log, and you would earn personal Pam pizzas from Pizza Hut. Oh my God. I wish I went to school where you went.

I remember back when I was in like first grade, we had. had something called like book in a bag and you picked the book from the class like library and then you brought it home and you did a reading log and it was turned in every Friday part of your folder and you got like treasure box or extra recess or something like that there was like different prizes that you could get and like why don't we do book in a bag anymore we do we have they have a bag it's like a reading bag and they have their books in it I never read. so I never got the personal pan pizzas. So nobody was making me read at home.

Susie was not sitting down with me. She wasn't reading to me or listening to me. Babysitters were doing coke and a rode-up dollar. Nobody was, I would never got me. Like, my friends did. Not Coke and a rolled-up dollar. They did, right in front of me. How did your mom find these babysitters?

Usually at the bar. Wait. So she would go to the bar and then just like make friends with these people. and they would become your babysitter? Yeah. Or it would be like, um, she was already at the bar. Yeah, she was already there. Or like she would have friends that had children that would be my babysitters, but they were

the ones that were doing Coke. I can't on it. I can't. No wonder. Yeah. No, I, it's so interesting to me because like I, last night, I did not want to cook dinner at all. I was like, I don't want to do this. I have to read with luck still.

Um, and so nights are hard. Hard. What was on the dinner menu last night? Last night we just did chicken bacon Alfredo because it's super easy and the each kid will eat some variation of it, whether it's like sauce without the chicken and bacon, no sauce, a little bit of sauce, no bacon, more baked, you know what I mean? Tonight I'm doing your Mississippi roast recipe. So I put that in the crock pot before we started recording.

Look at you being a whole pot girlie. Well, tonight we have soccer and tutoring. So I'm like, I'm not going to have the ability. to come home and then cook, so I needed something already done. I'm so proud of you. I was saying about my house was a disaster, so I had help cleaning the house yesterday because I cannot function in dysfunction. Like, it causes my brain to do something bad.

Like, I cannot operate with, like, shit all over the house. No, same. It's a direct state of, like, if my house is in this much disarray, it's a direct reflection of what's going on up here. But your text yesterday, while I was at the doctor, getting my ADHD meds was so funny. I screenshotted it so I could put it in a carousel. I blurt out your name, obviously, because I'm not here to put you on blast.

But I am here to put you on blast. So I texted Lindsay yesterday about going to my ADHD follow-up, and she literally responded and said, I need to get mine refilled. If I don't take it, I might start laundry and then be hanging from my roof in five minutes time. And I've never related to something so hard in my entire life. It's like, I don't know what is wrong, like, chemically with your brain and why you do that, but I swear to you, I will say something to Jackson like, hey, mom's going to go and take the trash to the road. And then I'm outside and the trash has not made it to the road, literally in three weeks, and I'll be picking weeds. Like, I'm not kidding. No, it's this morning. Okay, so Lincoln has to be to school by 7.50. Lux and Creed don't have to be to school until 825, but their school. are directly across the street not directly like they're across the street from each other so i have

30 minutes to kill so a lot of times we'll drop lincoln off at school and then lux creed and myself will go to wawa or starbucks or something to kill the 30 minutes this morning they were like can we go get bacon egg and cheese so we go to wawa and i'm waiting by like the refrigerator section like where like the energy drinks and coffees and stuff are and i'm waiting there and i'm waiting there and i'm waiting there and i go i'm just waiting for lincoln and they're like lincoln's at school And I was like, like, am I okay? No. The answer is literally no.

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He is now getting morphine every four hours. Okay. and hallucinating and he was he's on hospice at his home like in his trailer but they're going to move him to like a full-time facility to complete the hospice is what I'm from my understanding so I decided to so I answer her call and she's like you know he might have like pictures or something or maybe you want his like military flag or like you know there might be things that you're going to want or whatever. I can't imagine that there's actually stuff that I'm going to want because he wasn't around my whole life. So what could he possibly have? You know what I mean? But I'm going down there

this week. Couldn't get a flight out tomorrow. So I'm going to go on Thursday. But I have to tell you, the more I sleep on it, the more I don't want to go. But like, I know I'll regret it kind of deal. So I'm going to go regardless. The differences in my kids' dad's responses, are you fucking ready for this roller coaster? I am ready because I already know that every response was likely different. Okay. Would you text these people? A combo of text and email. Okay. And also my assistant, my personal assistant. Kristen is executive. So it wasn't Kristen. It's my personal assistant. emailed some of them. One responded with, why are you the one telling me this? This is not your responsibility. Kail should be the one telling me this. The fact that Kail fought me,

this is exactly why I said she shouldn't have this time. She can never handle the full schedule. The first three weekends and she's not going to have them. This is bullshit. My response was one of my parents is dying. I don't need to have any further conversations with you. In fact, I'm disgusted by your reply. So my assistant can handle conversations moving forward. Like we don't need to have any contact. His response, all you want is fucking content. I stand by everything I said. But another parent said, if that's the case, I want to do school pickup instead of waiting until exchange time. And at first, I was like, no, like, that's not, I'm not changing to make it easy. Like, I'm not going to change the schedule and be all confused and fucked up.

But then I was like, you know what? On second thought, I don't even feel like arguing. So go ahead. Pick them up from school. I don't care. Another one said, I'm sorry to hear that. And that's totally fine. If you need anything, let me know.

And then the other one said, sorry to hear that. that's fine with me. Just let me know the details. So two were rather aligned. One was pretty one was like pretty neutral and then one was just rogue. Flew off the handle. Flew off the handle. And it's just like, you are not better than me. And honestly, and I'm saying this because it could apply to any of the dads and myself is like, you post your whole life online. So to sit here and say you just want content is like, okay, if I want to process my dad dying on the internet with strangers who grew up with me, I'll fucking do that if I want to. And I mean, I think you are fully entitled to be able to make that choice if that's what you choose

to do. You know, Kristen and I were talking about this because I know that you've been so conflicted on what you want to do and how to navigate emotions and sometimes lack there of emotion, just not knowing what to do. And I think that's such a natural place to be in. But Kristen and I both said collectively that we think that you would regret not going more than going and never want you to have to look back and say to yourself, well, when I had the time, I should have done it. Yeah, I agree. And I think that's, you know, I might go there and maybe not have anything to say, but just basically like, maybe I want to calmly to just tell them how I feel.

I did see a video of someone, like a T-page creator, whatever, was like talking shit saying, like, I'm making this about me and I'm so fucking miserable. Why should I go make his death miserable? And I just, I don't think that that's my intention. Yes, in the back of my mind, I would love to just tell him, fuck you, like, you deserve to die alone because you left me. Of course, I'm going to have some of those feelings. Whether I was 20 years old or 35 and 40 years old, I'm going to have all kinds of. kinds of conflicting feelings but like for a page to get on there and say like I'm making his death about like I've had to live with the discomfort of him not being here for almost 35 years like

I just don't understand how someone can come to that conclusion of course I'm going to be conflicted of course I'm going to have not so nice feelings but I also have feelings of like maybe I need to go there and just forgive him and just basically like for myself like I didn't need you like yeah I grew up fucked up and maybe more I don't know maybe it was better that he wasn't there. I definitely think it beats a dad that's in and out. I mean, do you feel like you have specific questions, like just outside of anger and outside of resentment that's built, I'm sure, over the years? Do you feel like you have any questions that you specifically want to ask him that you need closure from? I think my number one question

is like, why didn't he look for me? Like, why he didn't try hard? because I do think, I remember when I met him, he had said, you know, maybe if he tried harder, or he said something along the lines of like, I knew you would come find me. Why did he put that burden and that responsibility on a child? Like, why did he not try harder? Why did he not? To me, why did you go back to Texas? Why did you not, knowing you had a child and there was no cell phones back then, why would

you go back to Texas knowing that you had a child in Pennsylvania? And literally never, because if you ask me, had he been in the town and stayed in that town or nearby, he would have had, my mom would have eventually had to rely on him because she was leaving me home by myself far beyond, far before I should have been. Do you know what I'm saying? So like it almost, in my opinion, and I don't know that for sure, but like looking back, it's like my mom would have had to rely on him so he would have had to be in the picture to some capacity. Why did you leave the same? Why did you leave the state of Pennsylvania. I mean, I think that's a great question to ask.

And I'm sure there are abandonment wounds from that that you have that you just haven't healed from. And I don't know if you ever will heal from those things fully. But I do feel like having the answers, whether it's an answer that you like or not, you can start the healing process on that. I wonder about your parents, like, what was their relationship like that led them to him moving back to Texas or whatever. My mom told, and I don't know how true, how there's always three sides.

However, I will say that pretty much everything my mom said was accurate and I hate to admit that, but she was spot on. She said to my knowledge, he was not keeping a job, not like working or doing anything like that. And so whenever they split, according to my mom, she was working and my dad, like, couldn't keep a job, wasn't going to work, wasn't putting in any efforts. And so he took me to Texas. His whole family's from Texas, born and raised, like my mom met him on a farm or a ranch or whatever. So he tried to take me to Texas and kept me there for some time. And my aunt got

approval to raise me at her house because she owned a home and had bedrooms and was whatever going to do it on behalf of my dad. And my dad admitted to all of that. My dad admitted to kidnapping me and the whole nine but to your point like one why did they go back to pennsylvania where my mom was from and two why did my dad leave pennsylvania to go back where he was from and why couldn't they like my mom didn't even send me with him for summers like you couldn't even send me with him for this summer i just wonder if he would be able to give you answers that obviously you feel like she's told you the truth about some stuff but like does he have a different perspective because it's like you're saying there's always like two sides of the story and then the truth

lies somewhere in the middle, it would just be interesting to have some of those answers. And I think it would be very good for you for a healing process, because even when you think that it doesn't affect your life, it does. Yeah. I'll be curious to see, like, what he looks like and, you know, how he's feeling. My aunt said he has his moment, but he does hallucinate. I think because of the morphine, if I had to guess, they're giving it to him every four hours. I mean, it was pretty quick from the first time I found out until now. I mean, that's not a whole lot of time. And so I asked her, I said, should I come down sooner? Or do you think I have time to come? Like, because I had time blocked off later on. And she was like, I think the sooner the better.

And so I was trying to plan it so that I wasn't going to have like Lincoln and Lux and Creed. But there was just no way to determine. Because truthfully, there's a long weekend in October and then there's like fall break. for Thanksgiving in November, I could have gone then, but we don't know if he's going to be here by then. No, I think you're making the right decision to go this week and to take the time. I told you yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, that I don't think that you need to go with like a full plan. Like, don't overthink it and just do what feels right when you get there and you're in that environment because I think that those emotions are going to come. And that's just inevitable. Does your dad have any type of different relationship?

I know that y'all don't have any relationship at all, but with your sister, like, was that a different situation with her than what it was with you? From what I understand, my dad left my sister when she was five or six. So he stayed with her a lot longer than with me. I don't know that my sister's mom and our dad were married. I don't know if they were just together or married, but she cut him out around five or six to my knowledge. I don't know if that was like my sister's mom's choice or if it was my dad's decision. I don't know. They have not had any contact to my knowledge, my dad and my sister,

since she was five or six. But she has a memory of him at her birthday party, at one of her birthday parties, which is interesting. But I also like want to be there for my sister because her mom passed away. So and like I know that she didn't have a relationship with our dad, but it's still like I get the feeling of like orphanish like yeah I know we're adults now but it's still like such a weird complicated grief situation um so she said that if I go see him she's going to go they live in the same town and always have they live in the same yeah and then just like never had anything to do with each other nothing that's so interesting to me how old were you whenever your parents split six months so you were a baby and then he took you with him to

texas yeah and i my mom had to like go through the court system to find me i think she said that she somebody gave her i think she said someone gave her money to get on a flight my mom has always been a part of year so she didn't have money um got on a flight and then i to my knowledge my mom's story was that taxis were a thing back then so she had gotten a taxi from the airport to, I guess they located me in the hospital with pneumonia, which my dad also confirmed and my aunt confirmed. And my aunt got bad at my dad because she was like, what the fuck are you doing? Um, and I guess my mom said she like gave the cab driver money and was like, can you wait for me? I'm just going to go grab my daughter. So like didn't have a car seat,

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You know that your dad's dying or you don't. Well, that's the other thing. I'm like, does somebody tell Susie or do we just not? Because all she'll say is like, good, the bastard deserves to die. That's what she's going to say. But like, does somebody tell him, tell her? Or do we just like let her live however she's living? I mean, how do you feel?

She blocked me on Facebook, so I don't know. Blocked you? Yeah, I like checked from Alessandra's Facebook and she comes up. But when I check, she blocked me. Why would she block you? because you call her boozy susie probably i wonder if any if people have called her that that's her name on there she literally says in her bio on facebook that she's my mom so like how are you going to block me maybe it was her husband wait in her bio on her facebook says that she's like

kail and lowrie's mom yes how are you going to block somebody and then put that in your bio for clout i listen first of all i need to know if people recognize her like like do people does she ever see people i'm embarrassed like i'm like that one time what we were trying to find her and i called like that great clips to see if she worked there wait and did they what did they say that she had worked there that she was like a manager or something there i don't remember that no it's like years ago when we were on you called yeah i called great clips she was a manager at great clips yeah and i'm like can you imagine susy out there like cutting somebody's I tried literally to get her arrested because she was cutting people while under the influence.

Wait, did she cut your hair when you were? Yes, she would cut my hair. My, she thought that she, what is it about addicts that are like, they literally think that they have everybody fooled? Like, what makes you think that your daughter that you live with at the time could not determine that you have been drinking? Like, do they think that it doesn't seep out of their fucking pores? Do they think, I could tell when my, like, talking on the. phone to my mom, I could tell if she's fucked up or not. And she gets like...

Need to know, was she the one who cut the bangs on you? Yes. She cut the bays. You? Yes. Oh, my God. I am Susie's worst nightmare. I grew up to be nothing. Like, my mom wanted the girliest girl daughter,

skinny, blonde hair, blue-off. Like, my mom wanted herself and a little child. She procreated with the wrong man for that. Okay. My dad is short and thick and I don't know what she was thinking. But if she wanted a very girly, dainty, cute petite daughter, she bred with the wrong one. What's so interesting, when I've seen you and your sister in person, I feel like you can definitely tell that you have like one parent that's the same. But like I don't think that either of you necessarily look like

your dad. Does that make sense? I am a carbon copy of Raymond Glenn. You think you look like Roadkill, Ray? Yeah. Like, what about you do you think looks like him? Because I see nothing. There's a scene from teen mom that the trolls have put side by side with Raymond Glenn, where I literally look like him without a mustache. Like, it's bad.

Like, what? Let me see if I can find it because it's so bad. I kind of feel like, and you might not want to hear it, but I kind of feel like you look like Susie. I wish I looked like Susie. Look at this. This is a cute little cat. It's so bad.

Why are they doing me like this? Like, let me see it. Ew, why would they? Here, I'm going to send it to you. First of all, how did you find it that fast? That's what I want to know. I googled Kale and her dad. Here, I'm going to send it to coffee combos.

Group chat. So we can all laugh. This is so embarrassing. Actually, like, Raymond, this is why I had to get my double chin removed. Okay. Hold on. kill first of all okay you know what come come to think of it you do kind of look like road kill ray and why okay can i ask you this

why does your dad go by ray like to some people and then like glen in another time i think it's like elliott how he goes by like a lot of people know i just sent you a picture of how he looked when my mom was with him because he did look a little better um i think it's like Elliot. Some people just know him as Isaac and he'll always be Isaac to them. But then certain people, like when he started at his new high school in ninth grade, he started going by Elliot before he ever told me. So I think that some people know him as Elliot and some people know him as Isaac. Same for me. Like my childhood people call me Kaelin. So I think for Glenn, and I started calling him Glenn, like his family and growing up and stuff, he was Glenn.

but to like me, my sister and like people, like my mom, he was Ray or Raymond. Kiel, these photos, like, you really do look like your dad. Yeah, I know. That is so ugly. Do you think that he is aware that you're coming to see him? No, I don't. Like, his sister didn't tell him. Maybe she did.

Maybe she has told him. Has she said, like, he wants you to? to or like he doesn't or you don't know i'm gonna ask actually i'll message my aunt right now and just say like hey just glen know i'm coming are we gonna tell him i mean does glen no i guess for me like how do you just show up you know like like what do you do when you get there i just asked i text my aunt and i said well i've messaged her on facebook does glen know i'm going to come there do we tell him or just show up i mean do you think that he's in a state that he would even know if you were there or not or you don't know she said he has his

moment so i don't know exactly but we're going to find out i don't the more i don't know what it is the more that time goes on i don't want to go like i'm like and i don't know if it's because i have so many responsibilities here that it's like i don't want to abandon my children here that need me in real time and real life for the next seven days compared with like this person that I'm half of, but had nothing to do with me? Like, does he deserve my time? And my kids have me away from them when I am active in their lives and he was never active in my, like, that's where I'm struggling right now.

But I think you have to look at it, like, you are so active in your kids' lives and you see them pretty much every day. And seven days in the grand scheme of time, it probably feels like a long time. but it's really not and is it worth you possibly living with the regret or is it like is it worth you possibly living with the regret to not leave home like like i'll be honest i really think it's how i'm being talked to and the things that are being said to me about it by one or two of the dads that's really fucking with me because it's like on one hand i feel secure in my motherhood i feel like I have a every right to go there but then on the other hand it's like is he is he right like

am I just can I not handle that though with the dads I think anytime that there is something that is said that plays on your heartstrings then you always second guess everything I just don't talk to any of the dads that way like I understand there there are several creators right now circulating a video of me saying that I am the problem when am I going to admit that I'm the problem. I'm the problem. I'm the problem. I'm the problem. I get it. I hear you. I'm the problem. It's fine. That being said, I don't talk to the dads the way that one of them spoke to me. I don't talk to him like that ever. Not even when I'm mad, do I talk to him like that? So the low blows, the shots that are sort of irrelevant that have nothing to do with this situation. Like I literally said,

this is not a work obligation. One of my parents is dying. And like, he doesn't, like, I don't expect you to care but like what if one of your parents was dying then what well i think it's just unfair for it to be said i don't know exactly how it was said but for it to be said that you don't have a relationship with your parents so you basically they didn't say that to me they didn't say that to me i just know that that's something that they have said in the past was like it's not actually three out of four of them have told me it's not my fault you don't have a family yeah and And I think that that is just so completely insensitive. And I just don't think that you should listen to it.

I think you should do what you feel is right in your heart and that just be it. Well, I told him, do not ask me for flexibility again. Do not ask me for a single favor. Do not ask me for flexibility. Do not ask me whatever is in the agreement is what we are following. I will not because you don't get to speak to me that way and then ask for a favor in the same email thread. In the same thread, you don't get to ask me for a favor after speaking to me that way. So we'll see how it goes.

That's on boundaries. That's on therapy. That's allegedly not working. A lot of people, they don't like boundaries when you set them. No, they don't. Benefit them. I just didn't. I stopped responding.

I was like, I'm not doing this. Not doing it. That was a good call. You'll have to keep us updated on everything. and you know you choose to take videos and whatever for you to be able to have them or like you said you know this has been a journey that you have been on publicly for essentially your whole well really your whole adult life it's not up to somebody else to decide how you choose to navigate the situation or to grieve that's true that's a good point anyways we can move on

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Completely outside of that, I saw this article on the New York Post. And I need to to know what you think about this. It says widow has late husband's tattoo cut from his corpse framed as a cool tribute. It does so much more than a pitcher. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you think that's a good idea? Um, you know what?

To each their own, for me, I'm going to take a picture and frame the picture. But I also did want my tubes. To keep, like, the tubes that I had taken out, I wanted to keep them. They didn't let me. So, like, I do understand, like, thought process behind it. But I think at the point that, like, it's flesh, like, you would be, you have rotting flesh in a frame or, like, a picture, like a shadow bot. Like, a picture would have been. It basically looks like a shadow box. Yeah. Like, for me, I'm thinking, just take a picture of it and be done because that, that's a bit much for me. so it says it was his first sleeve tattoo it was one of his favorites and one of their son's favorites and the mother let the child make the final call it says after the funeral she used a marker to outline the exact tattoo that they wanted to preserve on his right arm the mortician then carefully removed the skin placed it in a special preservation kit provided by the ohio based

company save my ink forever and sent it off before the body was cremated. Preservation process took around 90 days. And when the company returned the frame tattoo encased in glass and set in a dark wooden frame, the moment was overwhelming to them. So evidently, this is like an actual company that does this. These aren't the only people that have ever done this. I've just never heard of it. Like, could you imagine you dying and then your kids like taking

just their favorite tattoo off of your body? The more you read and me understanding that this is a company that did it and they didn't just like makeshift throw it in a box, like running, rotting flesh, it's kind of comforting. Like the son's favorite tattoo, like I have my kids names tattooed on me. I have to get Reoversome Valley still, but I have a bumblebee for verse right now. Like if they did this and it's through a company and it's like a preservation situation, you like that's kind of cute now that I think about it like I could picture like haunting my children and they're having my their favorite tattoo of mine like hanging on their wall like

I love that I would love to know what other people think about this because the way I would never do this let me ask let me text Elliot it does look pretty cool and I do think that the idea is pretty like artsy fartsy and like a cool memory but at the same time. I just, I don't know. Like, knowing that it's flesh in a picture frame, I just don't think that I could get over it. I would lose sleep over this at night. I want to see a picture of it. Oh. How do I, how do I zoom in? Do you see it? You can't even tell that that's flesh. I know. I mean, I think it's interesting. But like, what tattoo do you think that you have that one of your kids, if they chose to do it,

that they would take? their name. They would take their name off your body. I think so. I think they would take their name or like verse could take the bumblebee or like, I don't know. Like I feel like this is, I don't know. I would love to know what people's answers are here. I also would love to know.

We have another listener submission. This person says, my son came home from school and told me he's going to have a substitute for three months. He is a third grader. We are on week three of the new school year. He's saying his teacher quit. this was her first year at the school. Now I know kids misunderstanding things. So that may be it. I will get clarity. But I say all this to say last year, his teacher also quit when he was a second grader halfway

through the school year. And if this happens again this year, I feel like I have a right to raise concerns. I'm aware of the teachers quitting. They're leaving the classroom for all types of reasons. But has anyone else had experience with this? I guess I'm just concerned because this will be the year that he's going to start state testing. And I worry he may not be learning everything. to be successful. Today is open house and I'm wondering if I can speak with a principal about this. Any insight is helpful. The testing thing, you don't, that's not even mandatory and those are more for the schools than it is for the kid. It doesn't mean anything in my opinion. What do you want, what is the, like, what would you want to see happen? I mean, okay, so there was a teacher last year on

the fifth grade hall and this male teacher took paternity leave when his wife had the baby. And I think it was like six or eight weeks of time, something like that. And the parents were like livid pissed. Why, though? And I think that people have to understand that like teachers are real people too and they have real lives outside of the classroom. and you don't know what might be going on. So I think that I wouldn't say anything if my child had like a, what do they call that

long-term sub? Yeah. Like if my child was given a long-term sub, I would hope and trust that the school had vetted that person and that they were capable of being able to do that job on a long-term. It's not like the teacher calls out sick and then you just have a sub and it might just be somebody there to essentially babysit the class. I don't think that is the situation of what's going on. I want to say it was Lincoln that this happened to during COVID. He was in kindergarten. No, it couldn't have been. It was first grade. I want to say it was first grade for him. One of the kids

during COVID when we were like homeschooling and it was, you know, already like chaotic. And then I think the teacher either was on a long term leave or something like that. And it was just at that time, it was more like, okay, well, that's fine, but like what am, I just want to make sure that I'm getting whatever needs to be done. I want to say it was Lincoln's first grade, if I remember correctly. Either Lincoln or. Is Lincoln in sixth grade right now? Lincoln's in sixth grade. So it's either Lincoln or Lux. I can't remember. Yeah. And it was just something along the lines of like she was on, maybe it was like FML. I don't know what it was and I don't care. But like, I have no business flipping out. Like life happens. And I think that so often like parents specifically get so bent

out of shape and it's like what do you what do you what is the solution here i'm on the same page as you like i would absolutely not be upset now if there were issues that were presented later after the sub had like started and there was like chaos that was going on i think that's at the point that you can bring up concern but like off the bat i don't think that that's appropriate like you're not even giving her or him a chance to fuck up like you're literally like it's not like there's communications issues, it's just, you know, whatever, but that's so annoying. And to my understanding, like with a long-term sub position, I think the credentials that you have to have to take a long-term sub position is different than like a daily sub.

Oh, really? That's to my understanding. I was talking to somebody about it, like the teacher that stepped in in that situation that I was talking about in fifth grade, she was an actual... teacher and now have a teaching job at the school. So I don't. I don't think they have that here because we're, we have such a sub shortage. I don't think, like, you don't have to have a degree.

You don't have to have. I don't know about long term sub though. So long term, you might have to have like teaching credentials or something. I don't know. Or like applying for, I don't know. Outside of that, did you see that article? I think it was on People magazine about. We talk about weddings, like, a lot.

I'll be interested to see what the feedback is about the last conversation that you and I had about getting married or engaged. Oh, yeah. I still haven't seen any of the feedback on that situation. And I wonder if people think that we're crazy. But this was about a bridesmaid wanting to bail on the wedding after a bride asked her to not be in the wedding photos. How do you feel about that?

like all of the bridesmaids collectively or just that specific one so it says a bridesmaid is considering bailing on her friend's wedding after the bride told her that she didn't want her to be in the official wedding photos the woman said she's quite upset by the request and is now wondering if she should make an excuse to not go she shared this story on reddit in order to get input from others in the best way to navigate the situation she detailed her story um on the forum am i the asshole and she said, I was looking forward to it. We have been friends for over 20 years and never had any problems before. However, she said that the bride texted late last night and requested that she stay out of the photos claiming that her tattoos might ruin them. She said, for context, I have a full sleeve that would be visible in the dress, but all the bridesmaids and the bride will also have visible tattoos. Mine are larger, though.

Why even ask her to be a bridesmaid then? That's kind of where I'm at with it. Why even ask her to be a bridesma? You knew that or why not give her pick a dress that she can have long sleeves? Because that's, for me, I'm going to a wedding in a couple months and I like was specifically looking for a romper instead of a dress. Like there are options and I know like it's more common now to do like the same color dress but like different styles or like same color dress but maybe one has like a one shoulder sleeve situation. one has long sleeves one has strapless like there is there are ways to go about this also you can position her in pictures that would maybe hide her arm why even ask her disrespectful period like i think

that requesting that she wear a dress to cover her tattoos is also disrespectful if you don't want the person that you have known for 20 years if that's the case of this situation that you have been friends with for 20 years in your wedding photos, because she has tattoos, you need to re-evaluate your priorities and figure out why you feel that way. Because it would never be in a world. Like if I got married and I was like, hey, Kail, you're going to be in my wedding. Would you not be so offended if I sent you pictures or like options of dresses and you know the intent with the options of the dresses would be to cover up, like, who you are?

No, I wouldn't be offended. I would be offended. If you texted me and you're like, Kail, I really want you to be a bridesmaid, but I want you to wear long sleeves, I would say, okay. Because... Would you be offended?

I mean, you don't have tattoos, but I'm just saying, like, do you think that that's offensive? I mean, I just feel like, if aesthetic is something that you're going for, then know who you're asking or do exactly what Kail is saying and do it in a different,

like, make sure that. that it works for the person you're asking. You don't ask them, then decide you want it to be a certain aesthetic that your friend doesn't fit that aesthetic and then basically essentially kick her out of photos but still want her to show up to all the things, pay for all the things. That's assonine. Y'all know that we love Wayfair and Lindsay is coming to visit me in Delaware. I got a whole little room set up from Wayfair.

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if you ask me to I would automatically think without you even telling me I I need to look for, even just to be a guest at your wedding, I would literally, automatically, I would be like, I'm going to cover my tattoos. But I also, like, not everyone can be like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, one of the wedding that I'm going to in November, she asked me, like, what are you wearing? And I want to be very mindful that, like, she might not like my tattoos.

And I said that to one of our friends. I was like, you know, I want to make sure that I'm covering up because I don't know. Meanwhile, I put kale in a strapless dress. Kristen didn't give a fuck. She knew I had tattoos when she asked me. She didn't give a fuck and I wore a strapless dress. Like, whatever. It's, you have to know the friendship and you have to know the person.

Like, if you tell me after the fact and I've already committed to all this stuff and I've paid for stuff and I got my dress and then you tell me after the fact, I'm going to be annoyed. But it's not like, like just to be a guest at your wedding, Lindsay, I would literally cover my tattoos. Like I would be, whether it's with makeup or a dress or long sleeves or whatever. Like, I just know that that is your aesthetic and it doesn't hurt my feelings. I truly don't even give a fuck. My little tiny tattoos, I wouldn't cover those up in my own wedding. Well, no, they're tiny.

Let's see what Elliot said about. Elliot said, yes. I said, would you want to save your favorite tattoo on me in a shadow box after I die? And he said yes. I think that this is just asinine. But yeah, to your point, like, I would love to hear what people have to say about this because I think it's going to be so mixed. I also, like, go back and forth with even having bridesmaids at all if I get me. married again. Like, do I even want anyone to stand up next to me? Because I don't talk to a single

person that stood next to me at my first wedding. And I would like to think that getting married another time, I will have the people that have been in my life for a long time and they will forever be in my life. But I also am like, one, I don't want to put the expense on somebody else to do all of this. And also, like, I don't, my people know who they are. And I don't necessarily need them to stand next to me at a wedding. It's interesting that you brought that up because I don't think that I would have bridesmaids if I got married either. Yeah.

Because the people that I would be inviting, all of those people would probably be bridesmaids. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It would be so select and limited for the people that I would want there that it wouldn't make sense for everybody to be standing by me. I love the rule. And I think we talked about this last time, but it was like a TikTok. that I saw recently, it was like, if I would not face-time this person randomly or if I would not

call them to go to coffee, they don't need to be at the wedding. And that is at 33 years old, that's how I feel. I also feel that way. I'm also just like so conflicting about, conflicted about a wedding period. But then I also do weddings and I don't like funerals. I don't like to get dressed up like like red carpet type style or like formal. So I don't love that um i'm getting used to it i just did three try on halls for like this wedding because like this is the first wedding that i have been to in a long time i haven't worn a dress since i think 2016 so it's been 10 years since i've worn a dress i'm trying to find like a wedding appropriate outfit that is a romper so i just it's not a fun time for me to get dressed up with my body

type my body style my style in general like it's just like hard for me you can literally wear anything yeah but it's hard too like it's just a different kind of word because sometimes I feel like I get lost in stuff because I'm so small. Okay. So it's like I oftentimes feel like am I wearing the dress or is the dress wearing me? Okay. I can see that.

Yeah. No, I get that. I, what do you do at a wedding that your date is in the wedding and you don't know anyone at the wedding? What do you do? You better learn how to make friends. Because that's what's happening. is that I am I know nobody while my date is doing like wedding party things what do I do

do I just go to the wedding late like do I show up by myself like late I think you show up at the time of the wedding that's what I mean that's what I mean that's like don't go early for like any like don't go at the same time as my date okay yeah because um I think we're going to get a hotel and then I was like what do I even do because like I don't want to be up the bride's ass like I know the bride obviously I know the groom obviously but I don't want to to be, like, basically falling around the bride because she has, like, her own stuff on her huge day. Like, I don't want to bother her.

So Kristen said, or be like me and stay home. See, that's what I had said. Mm-hmm. But then it was declined. Like, that was not an option. That is not the plan. No. So you were going to said wedding.

I've done it. I have done it every time. No, but, like, that makes sense to me. Like, I don't want to hinder anybody's time. Like, if you want to go to this wedding and have a great time, go with. Like, by all means. Wait, I have to tell you this story about this wedding. So one of my friends, Heather, she had gotten married.

I think it's been close to two years now. And we had to travel for this wedding. This was when I was with Trent. And there is something like I can't even describe like the feelings of a wedding. I was in the wedding. He wasn't. He was just a guest. But he hung out with all the guys ahead of the wedding.

And it was such a good time. but I honestly thought that we were going to get married when we left there. Right. Like, it's like a weird, you know what I'm saying? Like when you're around the environment. Yes. And you're like, I'm going to get engaged and get married. Yeah.

Alex Cooper was just talking about that on call her daddy. She was talking about how like partners will be in these long term commitment, like committed relationships for like three, four, five years. And like they talked about being engaged at one point. They go to an engagement and it's now awkward because you just watch this couple get engaged or get married or whatever and you're with someone who you've been with for three or four years and you guys haven't had this conversation about getting engaged or anything in like two and a half years and it's like what is going on I'm not going to be with someone like that and like I understand

that not everyone's going to be on you know on board with what I'm saying but like if I then go to a wedding and it doesn't come up by either of us and we're looking at each other and it's awkward we don't need to be in this why are we still doing this like what are we trying to do what is the end goal here. Like are we not aligned on getting married? Are we like are we doing a long and are we not like she had such a good point. It was so valid. It's like one, if you can't have the conversations with those with your partner after that and it's awkward, you don't need to be with that person. But two, like the fact that it's not coming up in general after four years, five years, like what is the purpose? And don't you feel like when people are in those situations where it's

like, okay, you're attending, let's say you've been with somebody for like three years. and then you're attending an engagement party or something that they've been together like 12 months. Do you not feel like resentment starts setting in? It has to. It has to. And like this doesn't apply to people who are like, I don't want to get married because that is being very honest and just honest with yourself, honest with your partner.

Like I don't want to get married. I want to be in a long, like I want a lifelong companion, but I don't want to get married. Those are very different conversations. I'm not saying. There are people who are in a relationship where they are not on the same page. So one of them wants to get married and wants to be having these conversations and the other person is doing nothing to make that happen and actually don't want to get married or they're waiting for the next best date. Like, no, I would be so devastated if I was in a relationship for five, six, seven, eight years and go to an engagement party or a wedding party, like a wedding. And we are not having those conversations.

I know. I feel like the level of resentment there. I'm just telling you, flat out, I said it before. If we can't have those serious conversations and we're, I find at any point we're on a different page, then turn it. Yeah, because I'm not. Because like, why are we, we're too fucking grown for this? Yeah.

Like, let's have honest conversations and stand on business. Stand on business. Remember when you said, play with your pussy, not me. Yeah, play with your pussy, not me. Okay. Sending something here we just had written in. So somebody wrote this in. Hey, love the show and listen every Thursday. Opinions. Do you think it's tacky for someone to ask to borrow a dress from your closet to wear to your wedding? I have a friend who asks if she could borrow one of my dresses to wear to my wedding. It didn't sit well with me. Oh. Are you super close with this person? Because if you're super close, I would say it's not weird. But if it's you don't, you're not close with them. One, why are they going to the wedding? And two, why would they ask you for a dress? I personally don't think that's weird. I don't think it's weird. Like, I mean, I have friends shop in my closet all the time for various different things. And I mean, if it was for my wedding, then I would kind of be flattered by that, number one.

And number two, I'm like, well, I know I'm going to like what they're wearing because it was mine. Literally, it's like, okay, I like it. So here you go. Yeah, that doesn't bother me. If you're not close, I would say that might be weird. But also, if you're not close, they shouldn't be going to your wedding. so I've had friends like shop in my closet for you know like they were going to like an engagement party or a wedding or a baby shower like a bridal shower and they're like hey can I borrow that

one dress that you have like yeah I don't care yeah I mean I don't have dresses but like if someone want to wear one of my room yeah I don't care just return it you know what I mean yeah I don't know i'm just not like a stingy bitch i mean there are things that i'm stingy about but like well i'm stingy about okay so i have i'm looking at them now 11 lububoos wait what labubos why do you have 11 because i'm obsessed with them like i can't stop so anyways i had two doubles okay okay i'll give the doubles away um and actually i had three doubles so i gave one to pop up i call him my dad he's not my dad, y'all know the spiel, whatever. He has a daughter. I gave one to her. And then I had the double. Fine. Gave one to Emily's daughter, have the double, fine. Have another double. And Rebecca,

who is my personal assistant, was like, she called them bookshelf trolls. And I was fucking crying because I have them on my bookshelf. And she wanted, she was like, do you have any extras that you can give to my daughter? And so I want to give her one of them, but I'm waiting for another shipment. I can't give that one away until I get my next shipment. Um, and my friend, your next shipment like, yeah, like, so my friend Tony, what the fuck are you talking about? Kristen's having a fucking crash. She's crashing out right now. So I, I have a pink one that I can give her, um, but I need to see what's in my next shipment first because I also need to give one to Sterling's daughter, Mila. But my, what's happening is my friend, Tony is buying them and then she's

getting doubles and I'm buying the doubles from her because I'm not sitting on these apps. and waiting for them to like do this like situation and lottery and you might get them. You might not. I don't have time for that. So Tony is doing it and then I'm buying the doubles from her. But long story short, what am I going to do with these little boo-boos? I don't know. I need medication.

So I'm going to go pick up my ADHD meds today so I can stop hyperfixating. I'm going to send you a picture of my bookshelf trolls. Kristen said, why are they dropping new ones like it's an iPhone release? No, but it's the best. They're so cute. Some of them have gold front teeth. Some of them don't. But, like, why? I just don't understand, like, the Labibu thing. Like, I see, like, Lafoufus at the gas station. I've talked about it before. And they're, like, 1999.

Like, I would probably buy, like, one of those knockoffs just to, like, say I had a Lafufu. But the LaBoo thing is, like, crazy. And the amount of money that people spend and the amount of time to, like, track these things down is insane. It's like, what are you doing? with them. We'll look at your phone and you'll see. But, Kiel, that's not doing anything with them. No, I love them.

Like, it does look like bookshelf trolls. Kiel, do your kids play with these? No, they were mortified. I mean, some of them are like kind of cute. I think the blue ones might. The blue one and the green one are right here. But does it look like clutter? No, they don't.

And I'm going to put one on my bag, but I only want to put doubles on my bag. because the doubles are how do you put them on your bag are they like keychains or keychains behind their ears they have a little clip okay well i really like if i was gonna have one of these i really like the the gray one's one of my favorites yeah it's it's very um ugly and that's probably why i like it so cute they kind of look like um french bulldogs i'm trying to see which one you have the duplicate of? No, I don't have the duplicates on the shelf. I don't put the duplicates on the shelf. I don't sorry. I'm sorry. I just, I don't understand this kind of stuff. Like, I'm healing inner kale right now because I wanted a Furby so bad. I wanted tomogacchis. I wanted a game boy. I want it,

like, I am healing intercal because my mom would have never. So, and like my kids actually, they don't care about these or fugglers or anything. They don't give a. shit but like i do fugglers are worse if you think luboos are bad this is a fuggler and elliott has one and i'm like you're these are disgusting like you cannot sit here and tell me wait what is that ew these are you get that like hot topics maybe or pop mark pop mark killed no those are hideous like those are i will never get those literally and like this is insane And honestly, your collection is like a bit out of control. How many more do you have coming?

10. Wait, what? They have new drops. Like, they have different, like, there's, like, big energy. There's, like, different levels. So, let me read you what they have. They have, like, so big into energy ones. And then you have the have a seat luboos.

Those are a different drop than the big into energy ones. okay so there's like different drops and like some of them have like the gold front tooth and some of them just have regular white teeth so there's like different drops you don't know which ones you're getting until you get them no i think you know what what theme they are but you don't know which one so you have to open the box so it's like a prize like a McDonald's toy yeah wow on that note we need to do foul play okay fine this is crazy okay fucking lab boo boo boo boo I'm obsessed, so I'm not. I can't even. Okay. I don't know. I'll give them away at some point. Okay. I can't believe I'm about to share this. Please keep me anonymous. Kahl, this one's for you. For some backstory, I have IBS. One day I had been waiting in the parent pickup line for a half hour and I started to get the gurgles. If you know, you know, which I do. Got my kids and started the three-tenths of a mile drive home. Yes, this close. So no bus and too busy for them to walk. So I'm approaching the busy intersection. My stomach is cramping. And I'm approaching. And I need to go now. The light, longest light ever turns red. No, I would have shit myself right then and there. I started to sweat and knew I couldn't hold it. I texted my husband to unlock the door so I could go shit shuffle.

Oh, so I could do the shit shuffle inside. But it got the best of me. And despite my better judgment, I grabbed a styrofoam takeout container and pulled my pants down enough to, you know. My kids had no idea that this was happening. The light finally turned green and I drove the rest of the way home with a takeout container on my ass. Yes, I shit in the tank. takeout containers. When we got home, my husband came outside and as I stepped out of the car with a takeout container on my ass hobbling inside, my husband had a look of horror on his face

and burst into laughter. Needless to say, he will never let me live this down and my kids still have no idea it happened in the car that day. Thanks for the amazing podcast. You keep my rides to work fun. The amount of times that I've called Elijah, basically like that, I will drive in the grass and drive to the sliding glass doors into my bedroom to then walk to the bathroom. So I fully understand this woman in the depths of my soul. Like how often have you shit your pants? Because I feel like it's been a while. No, it has been a long time. It's definitely been some time. I haven't shit myself since that one time we were supposed to record the podcast and I was late. So it's been months. That was when you went to Panera, right? Yeah. That one was rough. And then you got the bubble

guts yeah like i don't know i will tell you the truth i was on the way back home from high school football game on friday and i had just had pizza there because i didn't have time to go anywhere before the game and i felt like i was going to have bubble guts yeah sometimes it's like the first time that i have ever felt like that like the urge to like i need a toilet right now and for people who regularly have that happen to them like i could could not even imagine. It's bad. It really is.

Like, what do you do? Well, I was on the highway and I was like, okay, I can do this. I can do this. It's like you're talking to your asshole, you know? It's like, I can do this. I can make it. I can make it. I hardly made it inside the house before.

I was like, I'm going to shit everywhere. I will never forget the time that I went to a restaurant near Bones House. you remember Bone. Go to a restaurant by Bone's mom's house. Shit myself and I had to go to her mom's house and then go into the house. Her sister was home. So her sister came out with a towel to like wrap around me to get me in the house. The kids were in the car.

I have to go shower in their home because it was a 30 minute drive to my house. And I couldn't sit in my poop for that long. But can you just describe like when that does happen, does your butthole just like like give out like how you know what I mean no like I like I like it's like you're clenching for dear life like holding on for dear life you're clenching and it's still coming out even though you're clenching oh so it's like seeping out of the clench oh no no no no no if that would have happened to me kill so I cannot do like dirty fucking things I also don't know like how people live like people who have like coffee shits like and they drink coffee on

the way to work every day and it's like I know that you have coffee shit so like why are you doing that to yourself if you get in traffic you are going to shit all over yourself i'm not going to lie to you i was very concerned yesterday i went to wawa and got an ice coffee i haven't been drinking coffee because i drink energy drinks but recently have been going back and forth went to wawa got my first iced coffee in a really long time. And I literally looked at Emily and I was like, because we were in the school parking lot, um, parking where you can walk. And I was like, what if I have to shit on the walk over to the school? Like, what am I going to do? And we just looked at each other and it was just like one of those, like, I'll just have to run. Like, I don't know

what I'll do. But yeah, to your point, coffee shits. I also know if you smoke cigarettes, a lot of times people, after their first cigarette in the morning will have to shit. What? That's a thing? Yeah. Is it the nicotine? I think so. Kristen said, remember that time you were stopping drinking energy drinks? Yeah, remember that time I've been going to Wawa every day and getting a single one. So it's not really working out. And I might as well recently drive.

I tried to get on that too because I was like, okay, I will probably drink less if I have to inconvenience myself to go and go and get one. Yep. It didn't help. No, because now I'll buy two. So I have one for today, one for tomorrow. And then I'll go that day and I'll go get another one or somebody will go grab one or, whatever so it's not working i was going to stop energy drinks but i don't think i can like there's too much going on for me to stop energy drinks remember when i was stopping alani

i have coffee that i just finished and there's a bunch of big liars out here truly well i can't wait for the addie and the energy drink combo oh yeah they did they gave me i switched from focal in to adderall so i'm going to have heart complications but you know i love that for you Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app. Follow and write on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit www.comfocofofospodcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kail's Patreon at patreon.com slash Kail Lowry.

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