Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Deranged Lunatic Bitch
Episode Date: June 16, 2022Lindsie returns! And what a hiatus for her. Lindsie breaks down the craziness that has been her life for the past couple days, Kail talks about the attention that Hot Boyfriend has been getting since ...being revealed, and somehow we end up talking about which cars Kail got pregnant in. Interesting! Also, Lindsie would like to know if it's good to know your partner's body count and/or sexual history? What do you think? Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a place Body Guardz: Go to BodyGuardz.com/Coffee to protect your phone today. Care/of: Visit TakeCareOf.com and use code COFFEE50 for 50% off your first order of $40+ CBDx: Visit CBDX.com and use code COFFEE for 20% off your first order Jinx: Get 15% off your first two orders online at thinkjinx.com/COFFEECONVOS
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This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship
Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here
Here's Kale and Lindsay. I
Don't know why I'm so nervous. I'm a little nervous for this episode
Um, hello Lindsay
Good morning. How are you? Um, I am a sight to be seen right now
I would never go on camera as I am right now. Why please tell me what you look like
humor me
Literally picture me rolling out of bed, which you guys have seen me film like that before and probably post on my Instagram like that before but
it's
Especially I look especially deranged this morning because last night I showered and washed my hair and I let it air dry
And then I slept on it
So it's the way that I slept on it was like I guess like kind of pushing my hair up to the top
so it just looks absolutely crazy and
It was all for you
Yeah, absolutely
And all my kids were crying because they didn't want me to leave to come to the office to record
But if I record from home
They're so loud that I can hear them and I'm like this is supposed to be soundproof
And then it's like my glass door doesn't help so I
Needless to say I brought three out of four kids to my office to record and I literally
Told them I said if you go outside, don't talk to strangers
Do not open my door for anything and then of course one of my kids is like well
What if Lincoln breaks his leg and I'm like
Like I said don't even come get me. I said don't get me just wait
Can you please tell me why
You left your home to then take three children with you
You know what because Creed is actually the loudest one and so that's really why and I just said and then the
PlayStation broke before we left the house this morning and I literally said if I hear about the PlayStation
Because it was an accident. I said I don't know I wasn't in the room when it happened
I said and I'm sure nobody did this on purpose. I said if I hear you talk about the PlayStation
You're all getting beat and oh my god
So I mean I would never beat my kids, but I'm just you know, I just had to lay down the wall
You know what I mean for the sake of saying it I feel like
That is a thing that would be going on at this moment. You're like why the fuck is the PlayStation broken?
Yeah, I didn't even phase me Lindsay. I literally was like
Okay, like I didn't even go upstairs to like look at it or see what the hell they were talking about
I literally was just like, okay, we are we're gonna deal with this after I podcast like after I go do what I need to do
But yeah, how long one break a PlayStation. That's first of all second I'm going
I'm gonna call this episode
The escape of Creed
Yes, like just are the escape from Creed
Yeah, no, but you know what? He's an angel now. He does no wrong, but he's just very very loud. So
Recording would not be a thing. But yeah, no, I think they were fighting over it or maybe turning
I don't know something about pulling the cord and it ripped out from the wall that it fell. I don't know but
I'm over it. And honestly, that's probably the best thing that could have happened for the summer if I'm being I have no intentions of replacing it
Wait, but my concern for you this summer and has been
Actually, not the past two weeks because I haven't been really concerned with with much outside of what I personally have going on
But prior to that, I was concerned about the fact that you don't have a pool because you've had a pool for so long
I'm like, what is Kale doing to entertain these children without her pool? Oh, so I Kristen ordered me like one of those
Not a blow-up pool, but like it's a legit pool that you put like chemicals in and you have to clean it and all of that and it has like a ladder to get in
It's pretty it's pretty durable
And expensive and I'm gonna keep it up for this summer
But I don't know how to fill it like that's the only thing is like I have a well
So I can't like drain my well to like fill the pool
So I think I have to call a pool company to come fill it now
Yesterday
Mind you, I did put the hose on it for a little while because I was like, let me just see how far actually Elijah did it
But let me just see how I can get it. Oh my god
And yesterday Lux and Creed are trying to climb up the wall on the outside to get in it
And I'm like, no, like it's not ready. You guys need to relax
They they don't know what to do with themselves and I'm like literally go play in the dirt
Like no, like Lux knows how to swim, but Creed doesn't so like that's a hard no for me
and so it's gonna be it's gonna be a Gator ring a
Gator wrangling summer for me. I just know it
Okay, so I have a couple of things to say about this because
one pools terrify me with little kids and if I had kids that were those boys ages and
Water they would just be walking around with puddle jumpers all summer long like never taking them off. Does that not terrify you?
Um, all my kids Creed is not there yet because he obviously is not even two but
My kids are very very good swimmers
It has scared me because Lincoln has fallen in the pool and I obviously saved him same for Lux had phone in my pocket and everything
But in the state of Delaware, you have to have
You have to have a
Childproof gate around your pool
And I think you have to have a doorbell on the back door. I don't know about that
I know my old house did have that and so did my Middletown house
So once the pool gets installed the back doorbell will get
Installed for the pool too. So I don't know what all states require to have those little things around but a
Couple of blogger moms that follow on Instagram are in California
And I think Arizona and I've seen those around theirs too
So I would be interested to know what states require those because I don't think
That they're required in Georgia or at least I've never seen them here at any pool. I've ever been at. Oh
Which is kind of terrifying. I'm like, why are some states like being very cautious and others are not artists out here rogue
Okay, so this morning I
I don't know what we're gonna dub this yet, but I came home after a weekend long
Fun-filled time with suburban dad
and
Walked in my door and literally my phone locks up and I'm like, okay
Like this is probably a good sign of like a really bad fucking week
And then I go to the gym come back home
Heather's sitting at my counter when I get home and she's like by the way your internet went out
but I restarted everything and
Now it's back up and everything's going we start recording and then my shit just shits out
And I'm like, okay, Xfinity. Are you trying to tell me to shut the fuck up or like is this a legitimate outage?
Is this only affecting me or what's going on?
So is it only you do you know?
We don't know we haven't investigated because right now
I'm doing the most bootleg podcasting that ever have done in the history of coffee combos
podcasting and I mean, let's even take it back to like
2017 like I felt like that equipment was a dinosaur, but this I wish I could take a picture of myself right now
So that you could see what I look like, but I'm not gonna mess with my phone because I'm afraid for it to do something
I have our recording app on my phone. I have an AirPods
I have my laptop in my lap and I'm sitting in my car with it turned off
So I'm probably gonna pass away. Oh
Oh, I hope you don't pass away. Um, I'm saying yeah, I don't want you to pass away. Same. Okay, so same
So anything that's been going on that I need to know about on coffee combos podcast since I have been in my a
well
Cuz I have some rumors so what rumors did you hear we're gonna see what you're willing to come clean with before I get going
What rumors did you hear?
I heard a rumor that
You name dropped
Hot neighbor. I it was an accident a hot boyfriend who then became Elijah. Yes. I named dropped and
I was just like couldn't keep it in anymore
We're concerned. Yeah, but no, it's all good. He's fine with it
So but he does get like 900 requests on Instagram every single day
So I'm like, I don't know like what kind of like slithering snakes want to like try to talk to him
I don't know what like I
Understand that people want to know who he is and like want to follow him
but I can't I do get a little frustrated just based on my
past experience with men and like I
Don't know like I don't think he would ever do anything
But it just is like why do women want to follow him? Like you can see what I post
I don't need to follow him. And so I
Don't know. I just I'm like
We love that. We love that so much and I'm like, ooh, who is that like why are they trying to follow you?
Yeah, they feel like they need to know everything that I know about you because at that point I'm upset
Just see what I post of him
I always ask him to because he's not really he only has like I think like six pictures on his Instagram
So and he like never posts on his story and stuff and he's just like a really private like super laid-back person
And so I always ask him like do you care if I post this picture of you or us or whatever and
He usually doesn't care but
Yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like this like
Instinct to like protect him and like I don't want him to see like things that people post the rumors the mean things
And then like who knows like some of these people that want to follow him
Yeah, I know that some of them are what they want to be nice, but also I don't want anyone talking shit to him either
Okay, well, I have had these exact same feelings and I'm like, you know what it's to the point that I feel like it
Might be a good idea to try to figure out how to cut suburban dad's internet. I
That's the place that we're currently at and I'm just like wow
I think that some of this has to do with the fact that
like for me with Will
He and I'm sure you feel this way with Harvey and a sense and Joe too
that
Will was like a part of the ride from the beginning
so I
Don't like feel as bad for the exposure because I'm like you knew what we collectively were getting into and
I say that but like you don't really know what you're getting into
But like we got into it together if that makes sense, but then yep with this it's like, okay
No one asked for this like
Suburban dad hot neighbor hot boyfriend Elijah like nobody asked for all of the things that come along with this
And it makes me kind of self-conscious a little bit
Yeah, I think I have just had like a problem with people wanting to fuck like my boyfriends or my baby daddies and stuff
So like I just I resonate with that and I think even with hobby
It was very like we didn't film for like six months and then we had they had to make up like this whole like we met at the
Bowling alley thing, which is a complete lie
Um, but he kind of what because it was still during like the peak of teen mom
And so to some degree he kind of started the ride with me, but yeah, no, I'm with you on that
I very much resonate with that and I just feel bad too for certain stuff because I'm like there's certain things that are not
preventable and we actually had this conversation over the weekend that I
I almost feel an obligation to share the things that I share with running two podcasts a week
But then also you want to maintain that healthy balance of like privacy, but then living this public life
But then you also don't want to come across as fake or like you're hiding something
Or anything like that
But there's got to be a way to have a healthy balance and I feel like I've been trying to navigate that
Through my relationship with suburban dad and I mean I was pretty private in my marriage with will
But that's mainly just because he didn't want to have anything to do
With this life anyway, right, okay. Yeah
That makes sense. I um, it's just a it's very weird
It's like unchartered water, but like not really it's very it's just like a weird
It is weird like a weird space to be in like don't know what's right. What's wrong? What's what's going to be good?
What's not so it's like I hope we're not playing trial and error still at this point of our lives
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If you guys hear me open the door, which you're about to right now
um, yeah, that is
Called freedom because I'm almost passing away my car. So
Um, I did want to address a couple of things
There are certain things that you guys have probably seen
in the media over the past
Couple of weeks that I'm not going to address on today's episode. Um, I have plans to bring my attorney on and address some of those things
next week, so
Just wanted to say that but on the co-parenting front
I have quite a lot to unpack this week and I'm sure that kail you are
very much going to relate to some of this stuff, but
some of this stuff, um
A lot of moms or maybe like the one dad that listens to us
Suburban dad will
Will relate to this. Um, as you guys know
Um, I have been off of this podcast for two weeks. I took a week break from the southern tea and
Don't really feel brand new. I was like, okay. Wow. This is like I took a what's not a vacation
I don't really know what you're calling this. Um, would it be like hiatus? Maybe a hiatus for survival though
You know, it's like damn. I was just trying to survive and stay above water
um, but then I also
So feel like I need a vacation now. Um
This past two weeks has been
the
roughest most uncertain
time that I've ever felt in my life and just
Felt so rushed around and like there's no plan and anyone who has listened to the show since the beginning
You know that I'm very type a and I like a plan and I like to know what's going on and
having a lot of unknowns with
Nothing
consistent feels very crazy to me
Um, and with co-parenting schedules, you know, when you have things that are coming up in your life that you can't control
um, that you literally have
Zero control over those things, but you're still trying to maintain this co-parenting relationship not have your kid off of their schedule
um, that has been a little bit hard to navigate and normally will
Is very good about
Um, if we have something come up and I give all the details or whatever. It's like it's okay. We'll switch
Um, but in this situation, I definitely feel that there was a little, um
Advantage taken, um
I think that maybe things that have gone on in the past with will and I
Um, some rockiness with my parents relationship with will and you know, vice versa his relationship with them are lack thereof
Um, I think a lot of things
kind of came to the forefront over these past two weeks and will was pretty much unwilling to
Switch with me knowing that I needed to be in court and needed to be there with my family
um
And that was really hard. Um, as you guys probably know my parents, um
were convicted last week and that was on tuesday
And I had sent will a text just to let him know
like hey, um
By the way, this is what just happened and please keep the tv's off. Please keep the radio off
um, that's it
I was with will for
12 years and in his family
um for 12 years very closely in his family
And not one single person including my ex-husband reached out. Um
To acknowledge anything
so
that's kind of where
We are on that front and as angry as I wanted to be
It truly gave me a sense of um
Um
I felt validated
Not that I needed more validation, but I did feel validated in
The entire divorce process and why I am where I am today
I was just about to say that because then you realize like everything kind of came
Essentially full circle not that just like you said not that you needed validation
but this just further proves why
it wasn't going to work because
as a grown man
It's hard for me to
Understand his perspective on all of this and why he would make it more difficult for you
Um, even if he doesn't understand what you're going through
I mean, we're all adults. He's in his 30s. You're in your 30s. Like why are we playing this game of
Let me make it more difficult for you
When your family is going through this like you
Have been through enough and just like you and he knows that you're type a he knows that this is all
Like a freaking whirlwind. So why I mean
What the hell what is his deal?
I think it almost um without having full blown conversations with him about it. This is pure speculation. I feel that maybe
This has been an opportunity for him to
feel in control
and I had no control and
It's something that I talked about in therapy last week
um
With my personality type. I like to have
certain aspects of my life in control and
it's truly um
Really, I was talking with suburban dad about how
I've been so super anal or attentive about my house and you know, just like everything being
So so and like nothing out of place because it truly has been like one thing that I feel like
I have full control over that like no one can mess that up
And I can control it all. I can clean my floor so many times and like
That's one thing that can be perfect in my life when everything else feels not perfect
Um, and I say all of this stuff to say that this was actually on the heels of the the week prior
um going into
The week that the jury um started to deliberate on my parents case
Jackson had been with will on
a holiday weekend over at the lake and he came home and heather and I were sitting at the counter and
I've gotten to a point with jackson that I don't ask him
Questions I allow him to tell me what he wants to tell me
and I'm trusting that things are
Going and operating the way that they should and everybody is conducting themselves
the way that they should and
Will and I had had conversations
Um when the media kind of started picking up on
My family knowing that this was looming over all of our heads
That hey like it's probably just a good idea not to have the local news on like
Not to be tuning into good morning americas and like channel 2 and 5 and like probably stay away from cnn and
Just those kind of things trying to prepare
And jackson had been over at the lake and came home and said that
That he was on and I'm not there's no point in me saying whose phone it was because
It's water under the bridge at this point. It happened. Um
And I I don't care to attack anybody
It's just this is my story and this is part of what I'm going through and I feel like I should be honest about it
Because these are things that I am navigating every single day. Um currently
He saw on someone's phone multiple google searches. Um, and these are jackson's words
Lindsay chrisley court results
Todd chrisley court results
chrisley family court results were google searches on this person's phone
And after me calling will and asking for
Help, um, I felt that you know, maybe he would extend
Help knowing the circumstances
Were very hard for the entire family and very unknown
And he said no that you know, he had plans and he couldn't keep jackson for the night
And I said, okay. Well, you know, like maybe you can keep him for a couple of hours and I'll be back to pick him up before bedtime
whatever. Um, and I addressed this over a telephone call and will start
yelling at me
And jackson overhears the conversation and then he gets on the phone and I feel like
This is so sad because he knew nothing about any of this and could
Effectively be around my family and we you know are the ones that are going through it
And he didn't find out any of that through us, but he found out through
The phone and these google searches
um and conversations that he had overheard and will's
Response to me was
It's natural for us to look at these things or to seek them out because you were in our family for 12 years
I don't agree
As much as I can understand. I don't agree with it
um
I can understand it and I can respect a position of another person
I think that
Him saying that at that moment
I'm like, okay, you know, I understand but then
Once the conviction did come down and the fact that none of them reached out
But yet they were looking at that stuff. It just seems very predatory
um
To me that excuse of looking me up um or looking my family up
Because I was a part of the family for 12 years
but then
When the shit hits the fan everything goes sideways and you know that it's probably the worst
Time or day of all of our lives
No one ever reached out not even my ex-husband to offer
any
type of support, uh, you know
It's like I was speaking to my nanny the other day and
She said, you know a kind
Person whether you have your differences or not because we all do but when you see someone is in, uh
Time of true need and support that you
Were with someone for so long and that person was a part of your family and your family for 12 years
But you couldn't even reach out for
Any type of support or encouragement. Um, I just I can't understand that
Well, and that's why I just don't agree. I think if you're ballsy enough to google it and keep keep tabs on the court case then
Where's the I mean even just saying hey, I don't know what you're going through
But you know, I'm here if you need me just like something little or I don't know
But like let him send flowers to you from Jackson like it doesn't even have to be you know what I mean like just
I don't know
I don't know because if the she was on the other foot
I know that I would have sent a text along the lines of
Hey, I don't know what's appropriate or what is not appropriate. However. I just wanted you to know
that all of our differences aside
I stand with you as
the mother of
My child you are a part of my family for you know, however long like that's a type of text that I would have sent him
You know like as the father of my child
I stand with you
I support you through whatever you need. Please let me know if you need anything even if it's a listening ear
um, I'm sorry
Well, and then to your point of he has said that he couldn't watch Jackson because he had plans
um
I have only experienced that with one of my
kids dads and um
Javi and joe like
I don't think they would ever do that. I don't care what your plans are
You see what I'm going through with my family and you basically
Choosing your plans over the option to have your son for extra time is
Not something I would ever expect from him
well, and
you know
It was the timing that really
Rubbed me the wrong way if it was you know like a work trip or you know something like that and he was like hey like
You've got to you know be able to figure this out on your own without always deferring to me, you know, whatever
but these were
circumstances that were very
Specific um and very uncontrolled circumstances, and so I just feel like the way that it was handled was in poor taste and
um
You planning a golf outing to go and drink with your buddies and then do whatever
Afterwards is not more important than what I currently have going on in my life
That ultimately also has an impact on our son. I agree with you. Um, I definitely agree with you and I'm just disappointed because
I feel like it's more in spite
agreed and you know, it was sad because
I have
Had to watch Jackson navigate a couple of things that I never
Ambitioned wasn't really my plan for my child to have to navigate these things and I'm sure that you've done that with
your kids in different situations, but
To hear my nine-year-old son say
Dad you guys are looking them up because you hate them and because you want bad for them
and
You know will rebuttals that and says Jackson. You're always looking up lamello ball
And Jackson says yeah, dad
I look up lamello ball because I want good things for him and I like to see his successes
And how great he is and I love to look up him and his brothers and like
all this stuff because I love basketball
and
It just told me that it gave me a little glimmer of hope that like
I feel like I'm doing something right and parenting because he is able to identify that nine
That he loved basketball
No that he's searching people not because
He wants bad for them
But because he's searching this up because he genuinely like loves this basketball player
Oh, yeah wants to know all the successes all the great things, but like it told me
Okay, well obviously I've instilled something in him. That's like I'm not going to seek
People out to find out negative things about these people, right?
Yeah, like I'm only going to look for their successes. And so I thought that um
When he said that it just
It was sad, but then in the same time
I was like, okay, this there's a little bit of like goodness in this and
You know, I also wanted to take this time as
We're discussing will to take accountability for
marriage issues that we have had because
I feel like
The issues were definitely
Some his some mine and if I had to go back and redo things I would have never filed for divorce the first time
In 2017 and dated someone else publicly
Probably wasn't the wisest of decisions
But I did and I can't change that part of my story and I constantly feel like
It always resurfaces and a part of me is like, okay
Well, is that just my karma that like I'm constantly happy to hear about this because
It was an uh-oh and like I shouldn't have done it
Um or
Is it something that I'm allowing to affect me in a way that I shouldn't continue to allow it to affect me?
Um
I can't go back and change it. You know what I mean, so I don't know really how to
Move past that
I don't know that there's a way to move past it right now. I think that you need to kind of feel whatever you feel
um
And then and then once you do that then you can let it go
But if you you kind of have to figure out how you're feeling about it
What your feelings are and then you're able to let it go better, you know
But I don't know this whole thing is disappointing in in my opinion
Well, and you know, then there's another thing that came up and I know that you can definitely relate to this but um
You know, once I started dating suburban dad and you know did my soft launch
Um, I don't know if people sent will information about it if he saw it himself
um
Either way, I
Don't care. I have nothing to hide. I am legally divorced moved on. We live in our own homes have our own lives
All of this stuff. Um, so I don't care how he found out
But I did start noticing a bunch of pickups within our co-parenting when he did find out about it
Um, and you know, I've I've heard Jackson say some things about like, you know, dad dating and
What not and when I ask him, you know, like are you are you dating are you seeing anybody?
And he tells me that it's none of my business and he has a right to privacy
It just kind of hits me the wrong way because I'm like you have a right to privacy
But yet I don't and he and his family
Really pray on me in the same way that anybody else that's out here like trying to look at our downfalls
Um
But yeah, I don't have a right to privacy
But they do and then when I say well, you know, I also have a right to some privacy
And he tells me no you don't because of the career path you chose
And if you don't want to be in the media then maybe do things that make you less relevant
I mean, first of all, I don't think that you're going out of your way to do things that make you relevant. So that's
One and number two
I don't actually think it works that way because yeah, you could you could do whatever you can to stay out of the media
All together, but people are still going to write about you
And they're still going to follow you and they're still going to do those things even though I left team mom
Does that mean that news stops? No
No, and it's probably not going to
Do for some time because you have established a place in
this little
market of
the world that
People are going to write about you if it can be
Salacious and
You know, I have learned that through multiple different situations that I have been in
Not going to reference what those are, but you know a quick google search will let you guys find
Uh what that is and you probably already know what it is, but there's been two different
times um that have been
drastically
Or have drastically basically imploded my life just due to
the media and their writing alone
And yes, some of this stuff is decision-making right like
Making decisions that I probably should have thought more wisely about but then there are certain things that I'm like, okay
I couldn't control that and then I think that's typical among most marriages and divorces
There are just things that are out of our control
Yeah, but then to be told I mean and I don't want to sound
Vitter whenever I say this and it might come across that way and if it does frankly don't give a fuck
um
Will didn't mind when the benefits were coming in of what I did for a job
But now that there is no benefit. Yep. Yep. You fucking said it and that's not bitter at all
Now I need to temper
What I do. Yep
But yet you're still googling. Yeah, so it's like
Sounds about right. I have a couple of those that um
And and and they're significant others or previous significant others who
When they're not part of something. Oh, it's toxic. You know, it's horrible. Why would you do this blah, blah, blah, blah
But when you're getting the benefits and you're getting the following and you're getting, you know
Reaping the benefits of the income. It was it's never a problem
Correct and it's like, okay, so
I'm gonna need
Every person that is involved in this fuckery to make it make sense because it doesn't make sense to me
And I don't know that anything that they would say at this point would make it make sense. So
um, that's just some things that I've been navigating on top of
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I also had this crazy shit happen to me
at a trampoline park over the weekend
I had Jackson and my niece with me. Um, we just went on sunday after brunch. We'd gone to church
Um took them. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna take them to do a two hour jump pass. They'll get all their energy out
It's like the best place to go
They can run wild and free. I can sit in a massage chair
And get a massage at this place. I mean, it's not like that's amazing. I love a massage, but like, you know, it's like
it's good enough for like at the trampoline park and I can do this while they're all hanging out and
Let me tell you
My niece starts running up to me. I'm sitting by myself. Mine in my business. I have their little icis shoes
Starts running up to me and she's like
this mom pulled Jackson's arm
and I'm like, what?
And she's like, yeah, this mom pulled Jackson's arm
Well, all of a sudden I see Jackson running like from across the trampoline park and I see this crazy
deranged
lady
Charging at me like her arms were moving so fast that those things almost like flew off of her body
And
She goes she starts pointing her finger like as she's walking towards me. Mind you I'm sitting minding my own business and she's like
Keep your and then her her husband comes all of a sudden like out of the corner
And he's like, is this those little fuckers mom?
What?
And I was like pardon
Like I had no idea what was going on
And I said pardon me
And she said
Your son
Was gonna choke my child or something and I said
Hmm
Hmm, okay
um
So
My child has a mark all over his arm. So I'm trying to establish exactly what happened and what transpired with you and my child
I'm less concerned what transpired with your child and my child at this point, right?
And I said and just so that you know, I don't know how long you've been a mom
but judging by the size of your child probably about as long as I have
And you should very well know that you do not put your hands on other people's children
What did she say?
Oh, she started defending herself
She started trying to defend herself and I'm like I don't care what transpired up until this point
Like you come to me as a fellow mother and tell me your child's doing this
And I will handle my child
But you're not going to put your hands on my kid and then think that
You're gonna come charging at me like some deranged lunatic bitch like no
Can I please have a keychain that says deranged lunatic bitch, please I'm like
ma'am
I'm gonna need you
to
First of all shut the fuck up
That's what I'm gonna need you first to do. I'm gonna need your husband to get out of my face. Oh, they're both there
Okay, because they're both there and they're both coming at me
And I'm like, you know what? I just left the lord's house. I came here in peace
I'm sitting with some icies two pair of air max and like
I'm chilling and now this lady is intruding
On my piece and I am not I'm not okay
and so
um
I just got the management because they have cameras in there and I said, uh, you guys are gonna need to
To roll back the footage and see exactly what happened. Oh, yeah, this lady completely in the wrong
Wait, did they show you the footage?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, this lady completely in the wrong
I had him save that footage because I'm like, you know, I don't know the manager was like y'all should call the police
Y'all should call the police on this lady. Um, because
She would get arrested right now
For like assaulting another child
Yeah
And they had the camera back up and I'm like, okay
Well, I'm not trying to get somebody arrested on a sunday, but like also she needs to know her place and she probably needs to get the
Fuck out of here
So did they remove her? Oh, yeah, she had to go to a
Completely different place. They were taking an incident report like all of these things
We're not okay. We're not well. No, that's not we're not well
So, yeah, and then people afterwards. I guess we drew attention to ourselves and then people were like, can we get a picture?
Can we get a picture? Can we get a picture and I'm like, um
Yeah, sure because uh, now that all of this is transpired and Jackson has marks all over his arms
Now would be the perfect time to actually take a photo. I couldn't think of a better time
You know, it's not funny, but it's just the way that you I couldn't think of a better time
I couldn't um, then that happened
um
hung out with
suburban dad this weekend and went to
do a nice dinner and then went and hung out at one of his high school friends
houses and it was a bunch of guys like sitting around the bonfire, which I knew at that point that
I was going to hear some interesting information and don't we love like
Hearing background info. No, I don't I don't love it. I don't want to know and um
Um
If you could see my face right now
Like did you hear things that you were like, do I need to end this relationship?
Or did you hear things that like really you were like, wow, I'm with the right one
So then this leads to my poll question. Okay
Before I get into the answer to that question, I'm gonna poll this
If you would have asked me at 23 years old, would you rather have a man?
that has
little experience
Sexually like just like a couple handful of partners
and
Pretty much like you're like one of like maybe like three or something
or
Would you rather be the person that?
Is with somebody that has pretty much
slept with
the zip code and
Really knows what they're doing
For me
I've been with both types of men
Um
I'm gonna go with
Only a handful of people
Okay at 23. I would have also answered that way
Now
I'm like, I don't care what you did before me. You just need to know you're not continuing to do it
Like I genuinely do not care, but when I got into a relationship with will at
19 years old, I wanted to know absolutely everything like where have you stuck it?
Who's if you licked like
I need to know everything. Okay
now
in this day and time
I'm like nothing about
um
Knowing that information serves me well
And honestly, it's just gonna cause a fight in the future. So for those reasons alone
I'm not gonna ask. Okay. Also. I don't really ask. That's just like not my thing
But I did just text Elijah right now and ask him how many people he's had sex with
You did
Yes, I don't give a fuck. I just now that you brought it up. I feel like it's just only
Fair for me to ask him. He read it and he's not
He's not responding. He's like, uh, how do I answer this? Um, you're like, um
I need to know now exactly how many people and was this like
um
Vagine sex or was it like other because
We also need to know that
And is it considered is it considered?
Are we only considering sex like?
vaginal penetration
I'm about to ask him to rate our sex too. Hold on. You're gonna ask him. Yeah, I can't wait to hear about this. He
Everything that like I'll just do like random shit and he'll be like, this is for the podcast, isn't it?
Yes, he just knows, um
Oh, I also wanted to say like while we're waiting on the answers to these questions
Foul questions that we probably don't need answers to. Um, can I tell you guys?
What happened to me while I was sitting in my car thinking that um, I'd come up with a solution?
My phone not only one time, but twice went into temperature mode
What does that mean? I took screenshots of them
Because it is so hot in georgia that literally if you were in the sun
Um, your phone just goes into temperature mode and you can't use it
Oh, I've had that happen like overheat like if I leave it out in the summer. Yeah. Yeah
And like I'm not okay with it
So that that's what I have navigated this episode. No internet
To downloading the app to be able to record to be sitting in my car overheated. I am now literally
Acting like I am at a conference center
I have my laptop my phone a thermos of water
um, Heather trying to find an actual charger
Um for me to to plug into the wall because the phone's gonna die
And I'm sitting in my pajamas and my hair is sopping wet and a pair of slippers
While these people are watching me at the pool
Well, I was going to suggest to go to like a starbucks parking lot, but I guess you
You figured it out. I can't have my car on
Look oh
Then the bluetooth connects to that and not the air pods. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um
Do I should answer he did he he said
I don't know I didn't keep count
And he said 10 for our sex. I said, okay, but can you give me like a guess?
I just need answers like I just because he's so like chill and quiet and like laid back like I just can't
But like he knows what to do. I mean even when we first had sex. I was like
Had why do you know how to do that because he's so much younger than me? So I was like
like
Why do you know how to do that?
It was like, what do you mean like I was married and I was like, oh, okay, like just don't know
Wait that opens up a whole nother conversation because I was having this combo with an unnamed person
And they were like, well, I mean I've been married and had like married sex before
I've been single and like had just like single sex before I've been in relationships and had like relationship sex before
So like I'm pretty versed in the areas of like that
And I'm like, okay. I don't think that that has anything to do with anything actually
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Um, my son just slid some paper mail under the door and then I just saw his little fingers like
His little fingers are just like
I'll send you a video
I love you too, babe
It looks like a potato. It looks like a picture of a potato. I'm not sure what it is
Is it a dick? No, it looks like a potato. Why are they drawing potatoes or that?
I can't see it because I can't log out of this app. Oh my god, you'll see it when
But wait, why are they doing this? I don't know it says love you mom
It says what huh it says love you mom
I don't under I don't understand what's transpiring right now, but whatever it is. They need to calm down
Like whatever it is like what are they trying to tell us? Like hey mom, here's a potato
um
Okay, so I need to know
If you had been I I can't I can't really shake this
If you had been at this trampoline park and this event transpired. No, I I think I would have called the police
I don't
So you saw physically what she did. She physically grabbed Jackson. Oh, see no that would we would either
I'm calling the police to file a report and or I'm fighting you and then the police are going to get called on me
So it was weird too because the story that she was telling and I'm like, why is the mom lying in this situation?
Like that's what's most alarming. So the story she was telling I heard the same story
Or version of events from my niece and Jackson, but they weren't together when they told me
Mom the food tier
She just said come on and I'm like, okay, you know
But like their event their version of events
Was the same hers was very different and the camera
Footage or video footage matches what they said and evidently
Jackson put his hand around this kid's neck like his arm around this kid's neck and said if you keep on messing with me
And my cousin that I'm a body slam you
Oh, so Jackson was sticking up for him and his cousin
Yeah, that's what he told this kid
And I was like well Jackson what possibly crossed your mind to feel like you needed to take this kid
Put your arm around him
Try to play coy and be like if you ever do that again, I'm gonna lay you out
Like at what point of
But even that like a grown person
Should not have yeah, you know what I mean like kids will be kids
But like you said like come get me as a parent
I need to know what everybody would have done because
I feel like maybe it was because of the other stresses and things going on in my life that I was just like more chill about this
And I was like, you know what?
I'm not trying to have the lord be upset with me on a sunday for getting somebody arrested
So for that reason alone like she better be glad it wasn't on a monday
Or friday
You know, yeah
Hey over the weekend
Um, I went to brunch with keraline and heather and my friend kj and suburban dad and one of his friends and we were
Chatting about this article that we saw over the weekend. I don't know if you saw it or not, but it says geico
They have to pay
5.2 million to a woman who got an std and
Ensured car
Yep, and I did see that and I think they they they do have to pay it. I think is what I read
Yeah, so it says the missouri court of appeals is siding with a woman who won a 5.2 million dollar award
Against geico in a case that centers on a unique auto injury claim the woman says she contracted a sexually transmitted disease in a
hondae sedan
Whose owner was insured by geico the one that's her first problem was fucking in a hondae
Okay, wait remember you said that because I have to say something else about you fucking in a bmw
Okay, so it says the woman identified in court papers
Says a man identified as mv infected her with hpv when they had unprotected sex in his
2014 hondae genesis
She says the man was negligent and didn't tell her about his health diagnosis despite having a throat cancer tumor that was confirmed
To be positive for hpv
Geico had told the woman its auto insurance coverage didn't apply because the damage
Claimed did not arise out of the normal use of the vehicle
So it says how did we get here the sexual encounter took place in late 2017 because the car was covered by geico at the time
It says that the company is obligated to compensate her for contracting hpv from the owner and the vehicle citing medical expenses and her pain and suffering
They signed an arbitration agreement and she was awarded 5.2 million dollars
Do you know this is going to
Establish case wall around this. Oh a hundred percent and now
these car insurance companies
excuse my language and all the people
My language and all the fuck bombs that I've dropped but like they're fucked
I
am
Case law. Yes. I just like um like what made her think
Like you you're right. It's going to establish case law, but like what made her
think about
suing geico like whose idea was this was it hers was it her attorneys like whose
idea was this and um
I don't know part of me is like
He didn't disclose his like i'm torn because I feel like
While it is I shouldn't laugh. Um, it's serious and she did contract hpv, but also
He didn't tell you but you chose to have unprotected sex. So I feel like
You still took a risk and you were in a Hyundai Genesis
When you were doing this so like
I
There's some questionable things that are going on that led to this that's like
Like I don't really know
I don't know where I stand on this. All I know is good for her for the 5.2 million from geico like geico
Anybody listening that works for geico is geico
um
I'm sorry for you and uh, I don't have your coverage. Um, thank god, but
Yeah, this is just that was so wild to me
Literally so wild. I also
Thought it was really wild that like amber herds homeowners insurance is paying her debts to johnny dep
Don't even get me going down that avenue
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Don't even get me going down that avenue the avenue that i'm about to go down is remember the time that you got pregnant in a
BMW
I do remember that um
I was gonna tell that story this weekend
But then I was like I need to confirm the story would kill before I go off like well
I also got pregnant in a
Toyota salera
Okay, so you need to stop acting like this woman and this Hyundai Genesis should be ragged for this
No, i'm ragging her for the type of car. It's a Hyundai
Okay, well, i'm just saying
I'm kidding you guys. Anyone who drives a Hyundai like I am it's all jokes
Um, I will say my my attorney drives one and I think that he's had
Hyundai your attorney drives a Hyundai a Genesis whatever it is like I love that for him
We love when people live below their means. I love that
Yeah, well, I mean he has two cars, but
That's one of them and I think it's had some issues like in the past
So, you know, obviously Geico and Hyundai like that combination is just like not a great thing
Um, but can you please tell me about these two times that you conceived in these vehicles?
And also like what was the thought process?
That was going through your mind that was like, oh like this is a good idea
Because I know one of them was parked in a mall parking lot if i'm not wrong. Yes, you are correct. Um
Well, the Toyota Sallera was little baby isaac
um
prom
Joe's senior prom
And the music at the school like started to or like the venue
started to like
Not be like it was um cutting in and out and so me and Joe were like, oh should we leave or whatever and like
Excuse me. I had gotten in a fight with my mom that night. Um
Um, not really my I don't know if it was my mom or my mom's boyfriend at the time
but I didn't clean the hair out of the drain in the in the shower and
All hell broke loose for that. It was literally like they were so fucked up and basically you got pregnant and then there
That was all she wrote. Well, that was like the fight and then they were like because of that
I had to be home by 11. So then the speak when the speaker started to glitch or whatever at the venue
Maybe glitching we decided to leave and go have sex at a dead end in the Toyota Sallera
And then we went to Applebee's and then the BMW was
I believe I got home from filming marriage boot camp in California for like
I think we were gone for like three weeks because we had we filmed marriage boot camp and then our divorce was finalized while we were there
And we didn't have sex or anything. Like Javi and I never had sex. Like I was so committed to Chris at this time
Um, like you couldn't tell me shit about shit. Like I was gonna marry him. Um
Clearly, I know. Yeah. So I get home from the airport. He picks me up and like we just like couldn't wait. So we just
Did it in the car. It was literally like emergency sex
Little kiss. It was like it was an emergency sex. Oh, the flashers were on in the BMW
and the parking lot of the mall
Nordstrom
At least it was a classy a classy store outside of Nordstrom in a BMW. Like
What a class act you are. Oh, so I'm at this like little thing with suburban dad
And they're all sitting around talking about all of these behaviors that he had
In the past and it was like these sexual things and I'm just like, okay
I don't really know how to take this like
Should I be impressed or should I be upset?
I don't really feel like it would be valid for me to be upset because all of these things happened before me and like
None of them in the grand scheme of life like really matter
But also
not thrilled
I yeah, it's
I don't think I want to know aside from like how many people he slept with just because we talked about it on this podcast
I don't want to know like past stuff
Yeah, like we don't we don't need to know like full-blown experiences like none of that
Agreed because I know the best experiences are with me. So
So, yeah, that's all anybody needs to know. Okay, literally. Um, okay, so are we gonna do foul play?
Yes, let's do wait. Can I ask you really quick? Yeah, what do you think about
doing
prank calls like a prank call week
So you have to do it because I did it last week
we will
prank for people
And also prank people that we want to prank like I have someone in mind that I want to prank that would be so
Funny and yes, it's a family member. Is it nanny fey?
Yes
But no one
Well, she no one sent her a message on facebook and tell her that we're prank or gonna prank her because
You can't ruin it. Don't ruin it like please don't ruin it
But yeah, like it would be so funny because we'd probably get cussed out. So I can't love that
I love that for us. Um, when are we gonna start doing this?
Um, I think we should start next week
Okay, and who who are we gonna prank first?
Uh
Yeah, I think we should go out. We should start off
steam and hot and go super in for the
Kill what yeah, we're gonna go for the jugular. Yeah, okay
I I love this idea. I've got to come up with a plot like
um
One time we told her that she was gonna get that she had a warrant for her arrest
Because she ran a red light and didn't pay the ticket and was like laid on the ticket
And she legitimately thought it was real. So like we can get her good
Like we can get her good. Okay. Okay. So this foul play. Let's do it. Okay
So this one's longer, but we're gonna try to make it short. It's not very sweet
Um, my mom's always been an addict since I was four years old
I started it started by her cheating on my dad with our neighbor
Then she got pregnant and had my little brother who 100 was the neighbor's child
I've had such a rocky life growing up with her always choosing drugs over her family
My dad took her back when I was 14 or 15
I left home at 16 because I couldn't live with her
I got pregnant with my son who is now nine that gave me a wake-up call
I'm loving her from a distance because I knew my son deserved more and I couldn't understand her decisions now that I'm a mother
Okay, I can relate to that
She recently fell off the wagon, but this time was so much worse
My dad kicked her out three months ago
Since then she has attempted to pay someone to burn my dad's house down
Stole my car and when I say stole she had a tow truck come pick it up while I was out of town in which I went to go
In which I went into a crackhead trailer park and stole it back
She's tried to press multiple charges on me. My dad and my older brother. She's had sexual relationships
sexual relations with multiple family members
Accuses me of hacking her phone quite often and to top it off the utilities at my dad's house were under her name because everyone thought she was
Quote sober my dad got home from work with no lights water or cable
There's so many details in between and stories of her leaving us
Places to get drugs etc. I could write a book with the amount of bullshit
My mom has put the entire family through needless to say me my dad and my older brother all have multiple cameras
Surrounding each of our homes so this crazy bitch can leave us alone
I'll forever love my mother, but I 100% will not condone her life choice build these life choices. She's making so
I also can resonate with this
Um, I remember my mom would take me to bars with her and I would literally sit at the bar with her or play
um
Caught like those like machine games and like pinball and also where I would go sit in the car and like wait and like cry
Um, and just like remember going to like random places. I know this all too well
That is so
Sad I don't feel like this is really a foul play because to me. I'm like this is the way
a lot of people probably live and have had experiences with
and
I
honestly just like can't even
imagine the
Trauma
And it's crazy because at the time like obviously you're in so much pain, but you're also not really
Like you know, it's wrong
But you don't know any different and so it's it's a very weird place to be in and now like looking back as adults
And also when you're a mom you look back and you're like, I don't understand
I I will never understand but I've been watching intervention lately. So I try to have empathy
But it is hard when it was your own parent
Well, I would imagine
When you've been through a situation in your life that has impacted you so drastically
That a lot of times when you look at a situation and you see it happening to other people
It's hard to be empathetic that you're sympathizing with those people. Right
Right
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