Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Diddy Disappointment, Sickness Goes Around & a Spoiled Baby

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

CC453: Kail and Lindsie dive into the chaos of family life, including a fear of Hand, Foot, and Mouth Disease spreading at school. Plus, they share their unpopular opinion on the Diddy docuseries, debate if Cheesecake Factory is fast-casual, and discuss their recent attempts at home cooking. Lastly, they offer advice to a new mom dealing with a mother-in-law who insists on waking up their baby and calls her "spoiled"Thank you to our sponsors!Chime: Get started at chime.com/coffeeQuince: Go to Quince.com/coffee to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next orderRoBody: Find out if you’re covered for free at Ro.Co/COFFEECONVOS. Rx only.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. Good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. What are we eating?

Hardys is my first time having... Oh, wait, you've never had Hardys before? I think I have, but not... It's been years. I might have had... My friend Emily eats Hardys a lot, and I feel like I've tried it with her before. Looks like you've got Nuggets,

and that's probably not what I would recommend to get from Hardys. I grew up on Hardys. Like, yeah, so... Yeah, but we only have, like, one Hardys around here, and it's not very good. close to where I'm located. But when I tell you, Hardee's biscuits are the best biscuits that you can get anywhere. My grandparents used to, so my dad's parents, we would spend the night with them a lot. And then when they got up to go to work, they were factory workers. So they had to get up like super

early in the morning. And they would drop Kyle and I off to my other grandparents. But they would go through hearties and get us breakfast, like, every single morning. And it was like these little cinnamon biscuits that had, like, sweet stuff on the top, like icing, I guess. And it's like a childhood. Like, I can taste it right now, like thinking of it. I wonder if they still have them. I don't know, but then Bojangles, which I'm not a huge, like, Bojangles, girly. I don't like Bojangles or Popeyes because I think it's like Cajun twist. or something, like Louisiana twist? I love Popeyes.

I've had Bojangles, but I don't really remember it. I do like a Cajun twist. See, I don't like the seasoning on it. So we go to Bojangles a lot. There's Bojangles by my house, and Jackson loves what they're called Bowberries. And they're the same thing that kind of like what Hardee's had whenever I was growing up,

except Hardee's was like cinnamon. raisin ones with like the icing on it and Bojangles has it's almost like a muffin biscuit like blueberry but then it has like icing on the top I mean it sounds good we're actually getting we just got a raisin canes we just got it's brand new and I'm not a fan I'm honestly like it's okay and I'll get it if the kids want it but it's not something that I'm going to like seek out I feel like it's very basic middle of it huh it's mid Yeah, it's mid. But I just read something online that said that the top of Delaware is getting a seven brew. And it's going to be about an hour away from me. But I will be making the trip occasionally. Okay. Well, since we're going to have coffee chats, I have decided that I'm going to be a coffee girly, but it's not really a coffee girly. I like a flat white from Starbucks. And isn't that crazy because I'm not a Starbucks girly? What is a flat white? it's basically like steamed milk and espresso i've never heard of that in my entire life so good i had it

twice this weekend okay i mean talk about a coffee a coffee combo if you if you want it is a coffee combo um i also need to tell you that yesterday slept in woke up and i immediately chose violence like i started stripping bed sheets i washed every blanket in this house i washed every piece of dirty clothes, even if it wasn't dirty and it kind of looked like it could be, got washed, went to Target, bought a new shark vacuum. And I had to tell you about it because Kristen text me and told me that my cleaner said that my vacuum wasn't picking up anymore. And I'm like, okay, well, I have like nine vacuums at the house. So why wouldn't they just look at the other vacuums and see if they could, you know, do the job. They prefer to use a shark. And that's coming

from a professional cleaner. Relatable. So I am now going to sell all of my Disons. They're on the market. If you guys want one, make me a cheap offer. I will send it to you. You will pay shipping. No. Just leave them outside and someone will grab them. No, but I spent so much money on these. And I just so much grace work and work, like, to get these Dyson and they're in pristine condition. Okay. Some of them have never even been used. There is so much I need to say right now. First, I would like to say that I also woke up yesterday and chose violence.

The babies were coming home. And Lincoln, Lux and Creed all tested positive for flu A. And the babies were coming home. Everybody's fevers broke. But on Google, it says that they are contagious up to from five to seven. seven days after. So yesterday morning, I'm lysawing the couch. I'm taking every fucking thing off my countertops. I'm spraying with lysaw. I'm doing doorknobs. We're taking trash out. We're doing all the things. Right. And Elijah did give me a little pushback because he was like,

I don't want them to go over there. And then they get the flu again because they already had the flu. Elijah. Can you get it again? Yeah. You can sort of like strip throat. Like if you don't change your toothbrush out and you get it again. Like you could be cured. and then use the same toothbrush and I think the flu is the same. So I'm like arguing with him because I'm like, I don't want to go another week without seeing the babies. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'll just lice all the shit out of everything and just basically hope for the best. So that's what I wanted to say about that.

But second to that, I just got, before we got on this recording, I got a notice from the baby school. Now, none of my kids have school today. It's like an in-service day. So Link, Lux, and Creed are home, which is good because they're still technically contagious. just anyway, got a notice from the school. Well, actually, let me backtrack. So because they're home, I also kept the baby's home because I'm like, there's no sense in like them going to school for four hours and whatever I have a recording and blah, blah, blah.

So I get a notice just now that hand, foot and mouth is going around at the school. I already had, they've already had hand foot and mouth twice. Now, Rio's three and the twins are two and they've already had it twice. I do not know, and I want to know what you would do, I don't want to send them for the rest of the week because I don't want to risk them getting hand foot and mouth. Hand foot and mouth is so contagious and it runs rampant in like little schools, so preschools, whatever, daycares. I would personally not send mine. Do you remember like way back when Jackson got hand foot and mouth and I thought he had some type of like not curable cancer? No, but I believe you.

No. And I had like a flashlight on his head because he had these growths that were coming up. And as a mom, number one, he's my only kid. So everything that he does, it's a first experience with something. So when I saw it, I was just bawling my eyes out. And Will comes upstairs. And he's like, what's wrong? And I said, I don't know.

He has tumors all over him. Hand foot and mouth has given me PTSD because I, I will never forget two years ago, this January, it will be two years ago, that the hand, foot and mouth that the babies got, I think it was Rio, gave it to Lux and Creed, and they do football, or sorry, they were doing wrestling at the time, and their hand, foot and mouth turned into impotigo, or impotago, however you say it. And when I tell you that they were down and out for a month from that, I mean, the infection and sores all over, like I have PTSD. So, like, That is what I'm more afraid of, not necessarily hand, foot and mouth itself, but from the hand, foot and mouth then turning into into the type of. Yes. And I just, I know it's fucked up because I didn't send the kids the babies to school today already. But like, it's December. They're about to be on school break anyway. Like, I almost am tempted to just not send them for the rest of the entire month. I absolutely would not because then all of your break, you're going to be curing hand foot and mouth. I would absolutely not do that. I mean, there's just zero way to really prevent it because you've got to think about, like, all of the surfaces the kids are touching, touching each other, um, kids who are still drooling. Like, no, no, that would take me slap out. And it's so crazy because when I talked about Jackson's hand, foot, mouth, people didn't know that you could go to the dermatologist and get something like to put on the visible stuff. So like his was in his scalp, which was kind of weird.

You're talking about molestum. Oh, yeah. You're talking. You're talking. people's needs to be different. Yeah. You basically have to, this is not medical advice for anyone listening. This is not medical advice. I am not giving medical advice. But I was told by a professional that you could literally take, you could take them to the dermatologist for the dermatologist to do it, or you could literally like sanitize

something and scrape the surface and then like basically make it scab over and do it, whatever, whatever. I personally don't feel comfortable doing with my kids, but I took Cree. to the dermatologist when he had it was Crete or Lux. And they did it for me. They did all of that. But you're talking about molluscom. Yeah. He also had hand, foot, and mouth, though. And I want to say he ran a fever with that. Is that the one you run a fever with? Yeah. No. No, that's a no for me, dog. I just, I don't want to risk it. I did text Elijah, the screenshot from the school. And I said, I don't, I almost don't want to send them question mark. I don't want them to get it. So I'm going to see what he says, like what his, what he

wants to do um but i really just i know this is the season of all sorts of illnesses but the flu a almost took us all out so i really just don't i can't i can't take anymore right now's the flu type that i got either i think it was last year around this same time and when i tell you i was out for seven or eight days like bedridden for that long so when you had it because i had it but I didn't get the worst of it. Lux and Creed, I feel like got the worst of it, where especially Lux, his night terrors from the fevers. But what's crazy was like, for a few hours yesterday, I really thought he was on the mend. Like, I was like, oh, like, he's going to be able to do with whatever. Last night ran into my bed around like 10 p.m. screaming from the night terrors again. And I'm like,

what the fuck is going on? Like, and then. And Creed last night was fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. And then around like four o'clock, fever up again, face flushing, eyes, like watery and glossy. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like you were just on the men. So that happened to you too? Yeah, it happened to me too.

Like I thought on roughly day three that I was on the mend. So I'm like, oh, I can get up, take a shower, like do stuff around me else. No, a couple of hours later. It was like I got it all over. again. But I feel like the best thing that you can do is even when you think that you've got like the second win from being sick, don't get up. Just like stay laid out. You know what I mean? Or like pace around the house for a minute and see how you feel. All right, y'all, when it comes to holiday gifting, I want to give people things that they really love, beautiful, timeless pieces

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that title. I have not seen that. Okay. So I think it was like seven or eight episodes. I watched the whole thing over the weekend. And I think you would like it. It's like a mystery trying to uncover who killed the mistress. Oh, I want, is it based on a book? I don't know. Let's look it up. I'm about to start all your fault on Peacock. I'm about to start that. Oh, I watched that. Oh, wait. It does say that it's based on a book, Kiel? Because it sounds like a book I have on my TBR, the perfect couple. Then you should read it because I was hooked. Like, I could not wait to get home for my errand yesterday to take a shower and just put on a face mask and sit and watch it.

I watched, I think, four or five episodes yesterday. I binged The Beast in Me on Netflix, which is based on a book, I believe. And then I also binged the Diddy DocuSeries. I know. We talked about the Diddy DocuCuse. series. You said you were going to tell me about it and that it wasn't worth watching. So I have an unpopular opinion about the docu series on Diddy. I know that it's getting a lot of eyes and attention and all the things, but it's just not what I thought. And I do think it was like a power move for

50 cent. And it's something that would be very kale-esque of me to do on someone. I, everything that was in the docu series, it's four episodes, we already knew it. We already knew everything that was in there. We knew what a shitty fucking person he was. He has been rumored to have been affiliated or the one that put the hit out on Tupac and potentially Biggie as well. We already knew all of these things. And when you're in a position of power like Diddy is, to me, no shit you shit on everyone all the way to the top. Like, that is no surprise to me.

What I was disappointed in was, uh, no implications of J-Lo, no implications of J-Z, no, nothing about his ditty parties, the all-white parties, the, the, the, the, the sex trafficking. Like, I do understand how the jury got to the conclusion of him not being guilty on a lot of those charges because there was just no evidence. And I don't know if it was good hiding. I don't know if it was. witness tampering. I don't know if it was the one ditty house that went up in flames. Like, I don't know, but there was nothing about all of those people, all of the women, all of the sex

workers, all of the people he trafficked. There was nothing on that. It just was how shitty of a person he is. And no shit. We all knew that. So my unpopular opinion is that you could get the cliff notes on TikTok. You can get the cliff notes by Googling, you know, what a shitty person he was. But I don't think it needed a four-part docu-series. I think that we needed a four-part docu-series on all the things we didn't know. Like the freak-offs and the white party or whatever, or is that the same thing? Yes. I just want to know how the people that have been named to be associated with those events, how nothing's come out about those people and how none of them have come out and said anything. That's why I watched it. I thought that that was.

was going to have, and obviously you have to tread carefully because if there's no evidence or proof, you can't just, like, that's defamation. And as long as you prove, it's not true. But, like, if there's no evidence, like, I heard rumors, obviously before this docu series about, like, Meek Mill and Jay-Z and J-Z and J-Lo and, you know, all of these people, the Kardashians going there to these parties and stuff. And it's like none of that was brought up at all. So to me, I don't know. And I do worry about the people that did speak up. like Kirk, who was a co-founder of bad boy entertainment and some of the people that he knew prior to where he is now, I do worry for their well-being.

Aubrey O'Day's interactions and relationship with Diddy was so minimal. There was so little said with Aubrey O'Day, and I was surprised by that. and the sexual assault surrounding her was, I guess it could be argued that it was hearsay. Someone said that they saw her being sexually assaulted. She has no memory of it. She says she does not want to know if it's true. And so it's one of those things. And then the other one, her name was Joy, she said that she was sexually assaulted in the 90s and that it was allegedly recorded and people told her it was recorded.

and her mom woke up to her joy screaming about it in her nightmares. And, like, no doubt, it's probably true. I believe it. I believe her. The problem is there's no evidence. So it's like all of this can be said, but there's no evidence to back it up. And that is how the jury has to decide is like what they're seeing, like what they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

And I think that's where Diddy's going to get. That's why he got the lesser sentence. Is it possible that they were just drug? so bad that they would have no recollection. Yes. And that is basically what was said. It did say at the end that 77 cases against him for sexual assault are still pending. So it is possible that he could get more jail time for those.

But again, like as far as like the freakoffs and like other celebrities that have participated and looked the other way, like those are things that I was watching for. We already knew he was a fucked up person. I mean, we obviously would have never been invited to a freak off. because we're there to investigate to see what's going on and then to talk about it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure to go to one of those parties, there were like ironclad NDAs, I would imagine. But those won't hold up in court if this is about sexual assault or rape. I know.

It won't hold up for that. I just think that it might temper some tongues of other people who might have seen stuff that just wouldn't come forward. That's true. And I would like to say that, uh, I know that we had not watched it the first time we talked about it on coffee combos. 50 cent was able to acquire the footage because, and you and I know this, like the photographer, the videographer owns the footage that they take, right? Like, we could pay for it, but they still own it. Did he never paid for it?

And so that's how did he, that's how 50 cent acquired it. He then turned around and paid for it or whoever did to produce this. And then second, the footage that he used in it was not compelling in any way, shape, or form. To me, the footage that he had of following Diddy around the city, you know, the days and weeks leading up to his trials, was very minimal. Like, if you don't even waste your time watching it because I think we were, we were prematurely upset for something that truly didn't matter. And then second to that, they did ask him and his mom to participate and comment for this docu-series. series and both declined. So I heard that it was like number one or two on whatever stream.

Is it Netflix? Yeah. Yeah. I heard it was like number one or two. And that's just like also sad. We've gone round and round about this, about watching stuff for us to be able to either talk about it or we're just like so invested in the, I guess what do you call it like entertainment news or pop culture.

Like we're so invested in it. But you don't really want to put money in the pockets of those people either. I'll put money in 50's pocket. I'd do a lot to 50 cents. Do you think he's cute? We talked about this. I do. Oh, and I don't.

But if he wants to make a docu-series about me, I would let him. Like, in the club was a banger, man. Oh, Lincoln hates my guts because every single year on his birthday on the way to school, I blast it. And it's like, go shorty, it's your birthday. And I blast it and he gets so embarrassed. So thank you. Shout out to 50 cent for that.

that. I have years long memories. 50 Cent has truly made me realize I am not hating to my fullest potential. Alessandra is joining us on coffee combos today because unfortunately Kristen is very ill. So she's not with us on this episode. His shit eating grin in every interview is everything. Also, in case you did not know this, Lindsay, 50 Cent did an interview on his press tour for this docu series with ABC News because you can watch ABC News in prison. And he wanted Diddy to see it. He wanted Diddy to see it. It's just like the level of petty and the links to be that petty and to be able to think like that deeply to know how it would get to somebody is wild work.

The funniest part is Jarl rule coming out of the woodworks and calling 50 cent a snitch for doing this because 50 cent also bought out jaw rule's concert and nobody showed up. So it's like, Jarl rule, you should not be messing with the person who also fucked you over. And unless you want a docu series done about you, maybe shut the fuck up. Oh, my God. I've got to tell you, have you seen those reels going around? And it's like, if you have a teenager and you get the notification of their grades and they're just like, oh, they just haven't updated yet. They're failing three classes and your teenagers,

like, they just haven't updated the grade yet. Yes. I'll have an A at the end of the week. Do you have any children like that? No. I do. I absolutely do. I love that, though. It would be like a homework assignment. And it might be a homework assignment in three classes. And it's like, there's a zero in there. And it's like, oh, no, I turned it in. They just didn't update the grades. And it's like you actually never fucking did it. Wait. So then when you realize that he never fucking did it, what happens? Like what happens next?

Well, I give it a little bit of time because I'm like, what if he is telling the truth? And so I might give it like a day or two. And then I blast off an email to the teacher. And I'm like, hey, can you check Jackson's folder for set assignment? He claims it's complete. Then I wait until I get the email back that it is not complete. and I confront him with the email when he gets home. Okay.

I mean, I told you about how I accidentally got Lincoln a 60%, right? I know. Which is so crazy. I was going to send an email to the teacher, but I just told her, I told both of them at parent teacher conferences last week or the week before. I don't remember what it was last week, I think. I don't know. I let them know in person.

I was like, by the way, that was me. so yeah honestly if i did something like that i probably would email or call a teacher and be like actually i have the one that failed that assignment so can you reopen it so somebody who knows what they're doing can actually do it because lincoln would have gotten a 50% and i got him a 60 so that was definitely but to be fair i'm like i'm a reading girly like i'm not dumb i am good at reading comprehension so like i don't even to me his answers could have fit but i thought mine fit better. Do you know what I mean? If multiple answers could fit here, and we're talking about a sixth grade fucking reading

level, I don't know how I fucked that up so bad. Not me. Like in high school, if multiple answers fit and I'm reading through it, I'm like, please, when I get to D on multiple choice, please let it be option A and C. Yeah. Literally. You know what I mean? Or like all of the above literally because I was a habitual all of the aboveer all of the above it's like like I don't know what I'm doing is not like the rest all of the above is not like the rest that's the one we're going with okay all right y'all let's talk about a smarter fee free way to bank that actually is built for you time is changing the way that people bank fee free and smarter banking but built for you not like old school banks that charge you overdraft and monthly fees. It is built for you not the 1%.

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in, I said, surrender your device. And he said, your device is crazy work. It's crazy. So he was like, surrender the device. And he said, Jackson, at that point, started trying to throw hands with him. And I said, honestly, like, I don't blame him. I probably would throw hands with you too. So he said, okay, so back up. I had another conversation with Will earlier in the week and I said, hey, what are y'all's plans for the weekend? And he said, we're going to a Christmas parade and the downtown area on Saturday. And I said, there's not a Christmas parade in the downtown area on Saturday. There's a pub crawl. So if y'all are going to the pub crawl,

then just let me know. Like, let's not mask it to some fucking parade. If y'all are in the bar getting beers, just like, tell me, okay, he is committed that this Christmas parade is on Saturday. Okay. And so I said, okay, take your happy ass on and you're going to be a part of the pub crawl. They get down there after this semi-altrication, pub crawl. So there was no Christmas right. So they come home and Will's like, well, that's good for you, Jackson, because you were going to get punished anyway. You're going to go and rake leaves. So Will said that he tried to throw hands with him again over raking leaves. And he came out. after him with a, um, with a rake. He's, he started chasing around the yard with a rake.

And I'm like, I literally take it. Honestly. I'm taking custody. Like at this point, he was like, he has never put his hands on you. And I said, no, absolutely not. Like, in what world would that child think that it would be safe, put hands on me? I just like, I need to see it. So I follow. Instagram, unbeknownst to my own self. I must have followed him at some point. And I don't remember him ever having anything on social media, but I saw he like posted on his stories or something. And I screenshot it and sent it to Lindsay, like just that the ring was lit up, not what was on his stories. Now I need Will to like take a video of Jackson coming at him with a rake and post it so I can see because I just feel like that is so funny. That is so like loud. Leriland-esque, like, that would happen over here. Wait, speaking of Lowryland-esque, that fucking video that I sent you of that bird, like on the house. Yes, yes.

It just fits the aesthetic. Honestly, a bird would fit so seamlessly into our chaos. We actually came up with a new rule today in Lowryland, okay? It is, if you don't eat your food on your plate, that's. fine. I'm not going to force you to eat it. We'll save it for lunch. If you don't eat breakfast, eat it for breakfast. You'll eat it for lunch. If you don't eat it for lunch, you're going to eat it for dinner. If you don't eat it for dinner, you're walking your happy ass down to the pigs and you're feeding it to the pigs. I'm no longer because so often my kids

would not eat what's made and it's fine. I don't expect them to eat all the time or if they're not hungry, whatever. Fine. But we have a container that we put all of our scraps in to feed to the pigs. And I'll just accumulate it for the day and then take it down either me or my dad or somebody will take it down. Nope. Now you don't finish your food. You're walking it down. Oh, my God. I'm so tired of the wasteful food. Also, speaking of food, I asked Lincoln what it's like to have a cooking mom because I've been cooking all weekend. Wait, what? Lindsay and I don't typically record on a money. day. So this is nice and fresh. I have decided to learn how to cook. And so I have been frying up

chicken cutlets. I made some potatoes with seasoning. We did bake ziti. I got a waffle maker and I made waffles for the first time in my whole 33 years of life. And I asked Lincoln yesterday, I said, what is it like having a cooking mom? And he looked at me and said, you've made three meals. Relax. You're like, I really just want to be acknowledged that I'm on this journey of doing this and you just rained and shit all over my parade. But then had the audacity to say, can we have waffles again? It's like, no, because I've only cooked three meals. So I would hate to have to cook a fourth. We have to start somewhere. And I will say that my chicken cutlets are decent. They're okay. The potatoes were okay. The Ziti was basic. Oh, I made baked mac and cheese.

Homemade baked mac and cheese. Was it good? Yes. I used teeny tiny's recipe. Do you know who she is? Oh, yeah. I saw people making that for Thanksgiving, actually. Yes. So I copied that recipe. A little bit of feedback is that I did not double the recipe. I left it how it is entirely too much cheese like like entirely too much cheese to the point where it's like almost too much um and so it was good i liked it my kids liked it my kids gave it eight out of ten um i want to perfect that one a little bit i want to use her recipe as the base but i want to make a couple tweaks to it and then last night i did a bake zi which in my opinion was like i made it around lunchtime it was better at dinner time, if that makes sense. Like, I had some for lunch. I'll tell you why.

Sauce is always better if it's, like, marinated a little bit. So spaghetti, like, if you make it one night and then you refrigerate it and then you reheat it, it's always better the next day. Yeah. So, like, I had some for lunch. Like, it was like I could get some for a late lunch early dinner. And it was okay. I mean, it wasn't super flavorful. It was like basic, middle of the road. Later on, when I had it for dinner around like eight, seven, eight, it was, it tasted better to me. So I was on. You said simmering your sauce for a long time before serving it is really good, too. I would agree.

Like, I do my sauce and the crock pot. So it simmers all day long. And I always use a mix of Italian sausage and ground beef. Will you send me a sausage recipe of some sort? Yeah, absolutely. I will. Back to the mac and cheese. Like, are we talking swimming like stoferes or? No, it was a good consistency. The consistency was really good. It was just the amount of cheese. Lux and Creed don't actually eat mac and cheese on a regular, like they don't prefer it, but they wanted to try it. They all just said it was, and it was three types of cheese. It was

mozzarella, Colby Jack, and cheddar, which is great. But with the seasonings and everything, like, It was just too much. And it was, it called for three pounds of cheese to one pound of pasta. Maybe you should have increased the amount of pasta to the cheese. Yes. I agree. And my friend Twizz, FaceTime me and was, because he made it, he made that for Thanksgiving. He had warned me that it was going to be that way. He's like, I just made it. Like, I'm telling you. And I'm like, I know, but I would rather follow the recipe to a tea first and make tweaks later. But he ultimately was correct. And I think either less cheese to the one box of pasta or two boxes of pasta and keep the three pounds of cheese. You and I should do cooking

videos. Remember how we were going to like do cooking with coffee combos and then we did it like we can do it at my content house now when you come. Yeah. We should do cooking videos and do like a cook off. Who's the better cook? No, I would love that. I know I did one with Matt, um, over. the summer and it people loved it. I think we should absolutely do that. And I'm never going to be a baker. So I'm never, well, let me not say never because I thought I would never cook. But I want to try to make snack wraps how with my chicken cutlets. Snack wraps with chicken cutlets. That sounds good. I'm sure it would be better than McDonald's, which by the way, I have a fucking argument with McDonald's. Why? Okay. So pick Jackson up on

Wednesday. Normally on Wednesday after school, we go to the trampoline park. We have a membership there. So it's just like easy swing by right after school, get our jumps out. And then we normally get fast food on Wednesday. He was like, well, McDonald's has the Grinch meal out. What is the Grinch meal? So it is, you can either get a Big Mac, I think, or 10 piece chicken nugget. And it comes with fries, a medium drink socks, like Christmas Grinch socks. They're probably around here somewhere. Actually, I'll show you. I've got two here. It comes with, it comes with these socks. Oh, cute. Okay. But please tell me why at this point that fast food has gotten so expensive that there are certain restaurants I can go to and spend less on like a country little dinner

than I would be spending for a Big Mac and a 10-piece chicken nugget. Do you know that it was $30 for both of us to get a Grinch meal? It did come with a seasoning pack for the fries in like a little bag to shake the fries in with a seasoning pack, which I thought was kind of cool, but it was like a pickle like flavored seasoning. Was it good? The first couple of fries were good, and then it's like I messed up the rest of my fries. Yeah, because I love McDonald's French fries, so it would be for me the same.

Like, just a couple is fine. That's really interesting. For a family of, I think, seven or eight of us, it's about 120 for us to eat. That was Chick-fil-A. I haven't tried McDonald's in a long time for that, but the last time I attempted to feed everybody on Chick-fil-A was about $120 for all of us. a lot of money. The craziest part of that, though, is that if we would have went to an Applebee's or something, I would have spent the same. All right, y'all, I was just having a

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information about GLP1 medications. Oh, I will tell you. Do your kids like chicken minis? Yes. Okay. There is a recipe that one of Jackson's friends' moms gave me and will, and Jackson claims it tastes just like chicken minis from Chick-fil-A. And it's like a whole tray of minis. Send it. You do the chicken and the air fryer, and then you obviously just like bake the bread, and then you like whisk shit on it.

Okay. I'll try it. I'll give it a try. I will say I want to find a new big Ziti recipe, because I'm a big baked Zidi girly, but I love ricotta cheese. This recipe didn't call for ricotta cheese. I don't know if that's typically a staple in baking cheese.

exceedy, but I'll make it one. Okay, I love ricotta cheese. Actually, there's not a cheese that I don't like. Same. Like, I'll eat all of it. Like, never found one cheese that I'm like, yeah, I don't fuck with you. Same. I love cheese.

Cheese is for me. If it's cheese, it's for me. This was a debate with my friends this weekend. What do you consider cheesecake factory in terms of grades of restaurant? I say fast casual. Wait, what do you mean? Alessandra, explain. like I was like oh I consider cheesecake factory like a fast casual like a casual restaurant and

Billy was like no people go on dates there like fast casual like we have a subplace by us he's like that's what I consider fast casual I'm like no I put cheesecake factory in like the Applebee's caliber do you yeah I do think it's you do I will say that like the plating and stuff at cheesecake Cake Factory and the experience is more of like a higher level than Applebee's, but don't mind me because you will find me in an Applebee's. I haven't been to Applebee's in years, like literal years. I, because it just gives me diarrhea. But the cheesecake factory is about an hour from us, and I would not put that in the same

category. I would put, um, and I think because to Alessandra's point or Billy's point, like people go on dates there. I'm not saying they don't go on dates to Applebee's, but I just think the you could be in and out of an Applebee's, not in the same way as Cheesecake Factory. I think the entire process takes so much longer. You can't just like go to Cheesecake Factory on your lunch break because you will not be done in time. Wait, remember that one time you and I went to Cheesecake Factory in Atlanta and Lux was like so little. and you had forgotten a bottle at the hotel? Yeah.

And I was taking so long. Yes. And I remember that, actually. I mean, the beginning of coffee combos, like year one, Lux went everywhere because Elliot and Lincoln had their dads had 50-50 custody. And I don't think Lux's dad was involved at that time or it was very limited involvement. And I, so I took him to Atlanta with me all the time. like at luck is our mascot literally if i was going to

Atlanta lux was going to Atlanta if i went to california lux went to cal like lux was everywhere he said he said something yesterday i don't remember what the conversation was do you remember what why he said to you he literally looked at ike and he goes i'm mom's ride or die he goes i'm mom's ride or die what she does i do the same that's what he said it was the cutest it was the cutest thing but i i will never forget i think that was actually my last experience at Cheesecake Factory because I was traumatized. They fucked up your food so bad and you were like, I would not. Irritated.

Like, we've got a crying baby sitting at this table. He doesn't have a bottle. You fucked up the whole order. Like, you might as well have just played roulette and brought me something. I think my ex-girlfriend went back. She drove back to the hotel. She did. I wasn't going to say what happened.

Nobody needs, nobody needs to know who it was. but y'all already know, it doesn't need to be said. But yeah, she went, I think she went, did she go get the bottle? Or did she end up leaving with him to go get him a bottle? Something like that. No, I'm pretty sure we were left with the crying baby. And then she went and got the bottle. I think so.

That was not a great time. But it was a good memory, if that makes sense. I'm just like, what the hell? Like, think about how long coffee combos has been going on. Literally, every year for Lux's birthday is like a coffee convo's anniversary, because we had already started recording when he was born, but we launched to think shortly thereafter. So like as many Lux's eight, coffee combos is eight. I just, I love it. I can't believe that like Lux is freaking eight years old. Coffee combos is eight years old. But it just like seems

that long, but like not that long. You know what I mean? And I feel like in some ways I have not matured in any of those eight years? No, you definitely have. Like, it's, there has been a tempering of the tongue, for sure. Power in the pause. There has been a power in the pause, baby. Okay, so we got an email from, I don't know who this email is from, but we never said anyway, so it doesn't matter. She says, hi, ladies, I've been a huge fan of you both since day one. I have a little predicament, and I need y'all's advice. Please keep me anonymous. I, 28 female, my boy, 29 male just had her first daughter almost three months ago. Things are going great except for my boyfriend's mom. She's sweet and means well that makes comments that drive me insane. The baby is

usually asleep when she decides she wants to stop by or whenever we meet her due to the car being soothing. Anyways, she always wants to wake the baby up, hold her, which is a tired mama infuriates me. The most recent time she insisted on waking the baby up so that she could hold her and then the baby started crying and proceeded to make comments as, oh, she's so, she's fine. She needs. needs to get over it and get used to it. Or, quote, she's just spoiled and needs to learn to let other people hold her. I got a whole story about this. She then compared my baby to some other children who was older than my daughter and continued the theme that he wasn't spoiled like my daughter is. I can't help but think the newborn is sleeping a lot and just wants her mama. I'm having

a hard time biting my tongue. In my head, I'm thinking, well, she doesn't let people, she doesn't let people hold her, just not you. Keep in mind, she's not even three months old yet. She kept telling me to feed my daughter, even though she ate right before she had come over. I repeated myself several times. I love my boyfriend and really want to get married, so I try to keep the peace and just ignore her, but it's getting harder and harder to do so. Any advice? Love y'all so much. Oh, I have a story for you. And you guys already know how I feel about spoiling babies. You can't spoil a baby. You literally, it's human nature to want to be held by your mother. It is human fucking nature.

Stop saying you cannot spoil a baby in that way. You can't. No amount of holding your baby is going to make them used to it or not used to it. No amount of letting them cry it out. Letting them cry it out is literally goes against everything in us as humans. So no, I'm never going to get behind that. The cryout method is the, or once was the bane of my existence. Why are we telling a new mom that the baby needs to get over,

why are we waking up a new baby at three months old? Literally why. Let the mom get the baby on a schedule. And then as grandma, I don't care what you've done in the past as a grandma. I don't care what your friends are doing with their grandkids or your other kids are doing with their kids. You need to listen to the mom and what the mom wants, period. Okay. So when Jackson was very little, I mean, he might have been around three months old.

I used to take him to my parents' house during the day because I wasn't. working. I mean, I was filming for the show, but Will was on a job and it's just kind of like, okay, well, if I'm going to listen to a crying baby, I can go do that with my parents and everybody can listen to it, right? So we would go over there and like have lunch and chill, hang out until it got time for Jackson to go to bed and then we would go home, do our nighttime routine at home. When it got time to feed Jackson, I was breastfeeding exclusively for like three months of his life. But then once he started taking a bottle, my parents always just say, let me feed him, let me feed him. Let me feed him. So Julie is truly like an angel when it comes to

babies. Like anybody's baby will let her hold them, except Jackson would not. Oh. And so I'm sure that probably was like a little tough knowing that that's your grandson and he just wants his mom and to be fed by his mom. And so I would like try to fix the bottle and give her the bottle and let her hold him. And literally he just would not drink the milk for her. And she got so frustrated. And I was like, we all need to calm down. Like I am his mother. He's used to taking a bottle from me. Do you know Jackson would not take a bottle for anybody else for until he was almost out of a bottle, a year old? Sometimes it's just the comfort. And I, that gets tough because it's like for the mom like for you you probably needed that break

like that few minutes of not being touched by someone even though it is your own child so that's tough actually I'm reading a book right now called The Mad Wife and she she has two kids and the first kid she said that like wouldn't like wouldn't stop crying was like really hard for her and I know what that's like where you just need a minute and you can't and you want someone want to hold a baby, but the woman that wrote into us, like, it's so hard with in-laws because like her, I've always wanted to keep the peace with my in-laws. And like, sometimes to a fault, like you just want to keep the peace and you'll tell them whatever, like basically be what people please are just to keep the peace. And that in this case is not going to work out well.

It's going to backfire. There are some situations with in-laws that they're going to do what they want to do regardless of what you say. Like you could say it a million times and they're still going to make the choice that they're going to do it because they feel like they know better because they've already done it, right? Here's the thing. You're going to wake up a baby, then take the baby with you. Exactly. Like if you're going to wake up the baby, then you take the baby and you keep it woke up. Take the baby with you. I'll go get some stuff done or I'll go take more myself. But you're not going to sit here in my home and make comments about this, that, and the third. Like, you're just not going to, you're not going to wake up my baby and then have shit to say.

And I mean, if it was me and I don't know how comfortable this mom is with her mother-in-law, take the baby to her house. If she wants to wake the baby up, fine. You go either go home and sleep so she can't make comments to you or have your husband or boyfriend go pick up the baby afterwards, go run errands, do what you have to do. And then you don't have to hear what she has to say. But then you also have in-laws. Like, my in-laws were great. I mean, I could, if they were going to watch Jackson and we called him like grandparent sleepovers, I allowed that for the first time when he was six months old. And we dropped him off, drove home, balled my eyes out the entire way home. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do? Like right after you

have a baby, even though he was already six months old, it felt like so new. It's like you don't know how to do anything else because you're so used to doing the stuff for the baby that it's like it throws off everything. So what are we supposed to do is sit and look at each other? Yeah. Falled my eyes out the entire way home. We got picture evidence of all of the stuff that they were doing the entire time. And I mean, I would send a list for her like needs bottle at this time. This is the food that he needs. This is the bath. Make sure the temperature is. is blah, blah, blah, blah. Clean pajamas. Make sure he's had lotion put on before bed. No passie unless it's bedtime. Follow it to a tea. But I've come to realize that that is more of a rare

occasion than it is normal. Yeah. I think if you're, if you trust your in-laws or family members to have your kids, you sort of have to, I mean, they should listen to you in my opinion. But at the point that you're willing to relinquish your child to them for whatever amount of time, you kind of have to just trust that whether they follow your direction or not, that they're going to do their best. Like the one and only time I ever left Lincoln with my mom, he was exclusively breastfed. Kristen was with me, gave her all of the information, said, please do not feed him, any type of food at all.

Yes, he was like eight months old, but he was not on solids yet. If he was, it was like baby lead weaning, I want to say, like, I don't. I don't even think he was there yet because I really tried to exclusively breastfeed for a year. Had come back to pick him up. My mom was sloshed, completely fucked up and had given him food, potatoes, crackers, like, given him stuff. And I, like, at that point, it was like, you're never going to see my child again and she never did. And to me, I feel like that's so detrimental in a situation like that, because if you're exclusively breastfeeding and that's all that your baby's used to and then they get exposed to something else, I just see. Whenever Kristen is well, again, she'll have to tell the story, like, because she probably remembers things that I don't, but it was really, really one of those things that I'm just, I can't.

And then I remember when I first had Elliott, I had one of the first times I had gone to the mall after I had him and I bought him sneakers, like little air forces and brought him home. I was so excited about his first pair of shoes, and I'll never forget, Janet complained that they were not high tops. There was no ankles. They were not supportive of his ankles or something like that. And I'm just like, honestly, I'm a first time mom doing my best. Like, if you could please just not make me feel bad about like my first like big purchase for my child, like that would be great. I feel like that's such an old school thing though. Like back in the day and maybe this is just in the South, I don't know if they do stuff like this in the North. but we had a family ran shoe store and most everybody in town would go to the shoe store

to get their babies their first shoes like they would go to be fitted and you know first walking shoes man please tell me why when jackson started wearing shoes do you remember the little shoes that you could buy from boutiques and they looked like little animals on them and they just had like elastic around the back and they were soft soles on the bottom yes like i think i remember not jumboree, there was like stride right or some kind of store that had shoes like that, uh-huh. That baby learned a walk and those little flimsy-ass shit. I didn't have any ankle protector.

I don't even think Elliot was walking at the time that I did that. So it like was like a moot point. It was like for the aesthetic. Mm-hmm. It was my first like big purchase for him. I was more so proud of the fact that I could afford little Nike shoes for my, as a teen parent than I was about him actually wearing them. It was just like, I bought them all.

I bought him some shoes. Like, I don't know. It was a big deal. But I feel like people, I say like fossils, like people before us. Like they just have this mindset of something else and what we have, right? Like they have not evolved. They think that everything needs to happen the same. And I'm speaking because my nanny is like this.

Like she thought my parents needed to do exactly what she. did. So we did not need soft sole shoes. We needed to go and be fitted at the local place, like for these shoes. And they need to be a specific kind of shoe. And it's like, let us just stroll around. Well, what's so funny about that same book, Madwife, there's like a, in the book, one of the kids gets sick and has the doctor come to her house. I guess it was a regular thing in the 50s for a doctor, like a family doctor to come do a home visit. And first of all, I'm I fucking wish. Second of all, the doctor recommended some recipe.

It was like lemon juice, lemon juice, something else, and whiskey. And it was like give one serving every hour as needed. And I was like, I said it to Ike. And I'm laughing because I'm like, if we would just operate based on how people were raised in the 50s and 60s, 70s, 8, like our kids would, we would be in jail, actually. If I gave my kids while they had the flu, lemon juice, honey and whiskey, I would be in jail right now. A thousand percent, we would be in jail. But also, where did they come up with those concoctions?

I don't know, though. I do feel like the whiskey is something, but the problem is I think that parents would just basically create alcoholics. They would overdo it. But I do feel like there are healing properties in whiskey. I mean, there probably is. I've heard of people rubbing whiskey on like babies gums and stuff that are teething. Yeah. I never did it.

I never did it with the simple fear of creating an alcoholic like boozy-souzy. Oh, also speaking of boozy-souzy, first of all, I took my meds today and I don't think they're working. Like, I'm all over the place. Yesterday I told Kristen FaceTimed me, okay, on her intravenous drugs while she's in the hospital. And I looked at her dead in the face and I said, Kristen, go get some rest because you're giving boozy-sie-susie. You look like her right now and you're acting like her with a very sweet, high-pitched voice when you're sloshed or pie or whatever. And I said, go get some rest, Kristen. I'm having PTSD.

Wait. So your mom was like a sweet, high-pitched voice in a state of blackouts? Yeah, my mom, when she's fucked up, outside of pretending to be the Wicked Witch of the West from Wizard of Oz, outside of those scenarios, she was always a very loving, fun, drunk, like, happy to spend money drunk, always nice when she was drunk. Like, she was not a mean drunk, but she was drunk nonetheless or high. So it pissed me off. I actually would call home sometimes. And if she had a certain voice, I knew. like you knew was at the time so you tried to take advantage of her and then and then I would be like can we go shopping and we'd go down to the sneaker king and she'd get me an outfit or she'd get me shoes driving drunk of course wait what was the sneaker king the sneaker king was on Route 6 and honesdale right next to Kmart and I always wanted like brand name items so which I would wait till she got fucked up and then she would take me we only ended up in a ditch one time and that's how you became a call

And that's how I became a Connors. Just call me Gypsy Rose. Oh, my God. I'm kidding. You cannot. Okay, on that note, we have foul play. This is going to be so funny because I had a brand deal with mattress firm a couple years ago, so I can't wait to read this. Okay. The night I traumatized a mattress firm employee, a few years ago, my boyfriend and I decided we were finally grown enough to buy a real adult mattress. So we go to this mattress firm, and the salesman is way too enthusiastic about us really getting a feel for the bed. Sir, be careful what you encourage. We're testing out mattresses, bouncing on them, rolling around, whatever. At one point, my boyfriend jokingly whispers,

we should see if it's sturdy. And I begin the chaotic woman I am and took that as a challenge. The salesman walks away for a minute and my boyfriend and I start making out on this luxury pillow top like we were in a dramatic Netflix series. Things escalate quickly. He's still fully clothed, but let's say the energy was shifting. I climb on top of him as a joke and go, how's this for sturdiness? And because God hates me, the entire corner of this mattress slams to the floor like WWE folding tables. The crash was so loud, the salesman sprints back over and I literally fall forward onto my boyfriend with the loudest accidental fart my body has ever produced, like echoing off the showroom walls. The salesman freezes. My boyfriend is crying,

crying from trying not to laugh, I'm sweating red and on the broken mattress like roadkill. The salesman trying to be professional says, oh, well, it's definitely soft. Certainly. We had to help him lift the mattress back onto the frame. And I had to do the walk of shame through the store while he avoided eye contact like he witnessed a felony. We did not buy the mattress. Not buying the mattress is wild work after all of that. In my opinion, it's like you have committed to this.

mattress. I can tell you, never have I ever gone to a mattress store and tried a mattress before purchasing. Also, I'm lying. I had one, one mattress that I bought at like a Sears or something. And it was literally the most magical mattress I've ever had. It was like a beauty rest or something like that. Becky has it now in her guest room. That was the only one that I physically sat on and bought and I was obsessed with it. How many kids did you make on that mattress? I don't even think any of my children were conceived in a bed. Well, we know.

Oh, the last four. Two were in a car. Lincoln was in a hotel. The babies were in a bed for sure. Where was Elliot? He was a car on prom night. Oh, yeah, the car on prom night. Yeah.

Lincoln Hotel. I forgot. So Elliot. were both in a vehicle. Creed was a completely different scenario. The three were in the bed. Who are we missing? Lincoln was in a hotel. Oh, Lincoln in a hotel. And anyone looking, anyone that is mattress shopping, I would love to recommend a couple mattresses. Okay. In no particular order, if you're looking for more higher end options, purple mattress and nectar are my two favorite high end. And if you're on a budget, I'm probably going to shock people when I say this, but I will post a link.

The two most comfortable, I have a nectar in one room and I have a purple mattress myself in my own room. Love them both. The two most comfortable beds in my house are Lincoln and Lux. And they came from Amazon and I will post the link. And to this day, when I get a new mattress at some point, it will be whatever Lincoln and Lux have. So I have nectar and purple in this house. Love. Because when I went through my breakup, like before I moved here, we know how I feel about mattresses, like how to get a new mattress.

I'm pretty sure mine in my bedroom is purple. Also, purple sheets are very expensive. But I do love purple sheets. Listen, I'm here to tell you. whether or not you should buy purple products, I know they're pricey. I know they are. But I have been very happy with my purple products. But we have to think about like mattresses as investments, right? Totally. One thousand percent. And that's why I was kind of giving options because the two mattresses that I got from Amazon are in my opinion just as comfortable, if not more comfortable than the super high

end ones. So while I do love purple, if you're on a budget, I will post a suggestion. Isn't it so crazy how mattresses also come now? Like, you order them online and they're in what looks like a tiny box and then you cut open this stuff and then all of a sudden you just have this big comfortable mattress. Well, that's why I'm wondering, no shade to mattress firm. Like, thanks for the partnership a couple years ago, loves that for me and loves that for you. but like are y'all laundering or something because nobody's physically going like why are you having these big box stores with mattresses and three people come in all week like it's so weird you know what I mean we should do a marketing test and go sit outside of like stores that we think people don't go to and

purchase like all those types of things online to see how many people actually go into the store Like they're the amount of mattress firms is sort of on part. It's same for like car dealerships. Don't you feel like they have an awful lot of cars on the lot and too many salesmen? But how many people are really coming in to buy cars every single day? I think maybe like the salesman, the salesman situation is maybe to like add competition in the workforce. So, you know, competition sometimes incentivizes people to close a deal. Okay. But maybe don't be open seven. days a week then because like surely and like sales car salesmen don't make as much money on brand new

cars as they do use cars they can add more money to a used car on the back end to make a higher commission where they're not making pretty much anything on a brand new car so like make it makes like maybe close two days a week three days a week and then the competition would be left in the four days because there would be like a supply and demand situation i mean i could probably get behind that I can tell you the car dealerships that I go to, there are always people on the lot looking or in offices, like, negotiating. But not as many as you would think for the amount of cars and the amount of salespeople. Like, yeah, a handful of people every day, but like they could just move it to the next day. Do you know what I'm saying?

What do they end up doing with the cars? Like, once they get the new ones for like the new year, do they have to discount the cars that they have on the lot from the previous year? Yes. I don't think it like they do it. I think the manufacturers require it if I had to guess. But my plan for Elliott, listen, this is what I'm about to say is not up for discussion. This is what I'm personally doing. I'm not looking for another way to do it. I'm getting him a car January, 2026, but I'm looking for an unused brand new 2024. And the reason why I'm saying that that's two years old at that point is because it's 2025. But in 2025, this today, they still have unused, unbought 2024s. Yep. So my thought was I could get a brand new car in 26. And I'm going with the suggestion that you made on the car that you suggested. I'm not going to say it yet.

And I'm going to look for a 2024 because at that point, would they have to discount it further? Because the 2026 are now on the lot. That's what I'm thinking. Because, I mean, maybe other people do that same. Like I got my car. I got a 2024 at the end of, sorry, what year are we in? 2025. I got my brand new 2024 Denali when the 2025s were already on the lot.

Did you get a discount? I think I financed it, so I don't think, and I didn't lease it. I like bought it. I don't think, so people think they get discounts on cars, and I think the only real discounts come, one on used cars and two, if you're paying in cash. You're not actually getting a deal if you're financing. And so I don't think I even tried to negotiate because it wouldn't have been worth it, if that makes sense.

I'm so glad that you are going with my suggestion for his first car. So am I. I hope he loves it. And it's one, it's so reliable, so fucking reliable. It's safe, as safe as you can get for a teen child, a teen boy. and it's going to hold its value. And that is what I really want because eventually he will want to get his own car with his own money and upgrade or whatever he wants to do. And I want to make sure that it holds its value and he can either trade it for what he wants or pass it down to one of his siblings.

And I am really happy with this. And honestly, sort of mad at myself for not thinking of it. And I appreciate you for your suggestion. Not us, just on a Saturday, like rolling through all the cars on a three-way call with Kristen. And I'm like, what about? And I was like, yep, that's it. That's the one. Literally, no questions asked. Literally no questions. I was like, that is what I'm getting him. That is the one. Okay, that's all we have time for today. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app. Follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeCompospodcast.com to shop. Full video episodes are available on Kale's Patreon. at patreon.com slash kale Lowry. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community.

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