Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Dividing Time, Toxic Positivity & PTFO

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

CC274: Lindsie brings a hard hitting Tiktok today that has Kail floored. Another viral Tiktok on a dad of 7 has both Lindsie and Kail triggered! Kail shares the words she will no longer be using in order to channel more positive energy this year, and Lindsie shares what habits Jackson has been picking up from his Dad.Lindsie gives us the latest in true crime with updates on the Murdaugh murders and the Idaho 4 trial. One of today's Foul Play has Lindsie teaching us a new acronym!    Thank you to our sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthHello Fresh: Visit HelloFresh.com/convos60 and use code convos60 for 60% off plus free shippingKiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEETrailmix Games: Download Love & Pies for free at the App Store or Google PlayZocdoc: Go to Zocdoc.com/CONVOS and download the Zocdoc app for FREE

I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you? This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood Friendship family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here Here's Kale and Lindsay Hello kitty gang kitty gang Kale. Yeah, I'm not thinking that's the vibes at this moment. Oh, got it. Okay. What's the vibe? I mean, I love that you came on here and did that and really put in your best effort, but yes

The vibes right now is this is absolutely a hellacious week. I hate everything about it and I'm ready for it to be over so okay, um, I'm I'm sorry that you feel that way because this week has been pretty Productive for me. Also, I didn't have a choice the way that Kristen set up my schedule So I absolutely don't have a choice but to fucking suck it up and just push on through Um, so we don't have a choice and I think that that's where like my negativity is sinking in It's just been really hard trying to coordinate Schedules and new things that I have going on in my life Requiring me to be out of town and then you know trying to alternate

Weekends with will and then not really having any personal time anymore. So it's been a lot Yeah, no, I definitely get that. I feel yesterday. I was very overwhelmed like I had all my kids. I was trying to I don't know what I was doing Someone sent me a birthday gift in the mail, which was plants and I'm always open and love plants as birthday gifts But there are two plants that I didn't I don't have yet for my collection and all my kids were just like Bouncing off the fucking walls and I went to go open them and my dog stepped on one of them Not the kids the plants and I was just like in that moment I was like y'all go in the playroom the kids are too much the TV is playing the fan over the kitchen

stove is blasting like there was just so much going on and It was a lot. That was one moment of overwhelming for me But other than that, I'm just trying to push through and try to be positive I read some affirmations this morning that the kitty gang said in our group text. Oh, I didn't see them yet I have been yeah, trying to like literally sort frickin laundry and Yeah, that's laundry is like one of my least favorite chores like I don't mind the bane of your existence Yeah, like I don't mind putting it in Mm-hmm and moving it to the dryer

It's the after the dryer part that really has me fucked up. You know, it's like really chaps your ass Yes, like I will have piles and piles and piles of clothes everywhere And I say I am the cleanest person that I know but also the messiest person that I know because I Just like hate putting away clothes and I've gotten a lot better at it It was something that I was like bad at in my marriage Like all will shit would be like straight up put away like looking nice and stuff and my shit Just like piles all over the bedroom like I'm a squatter, so My closet that I just had redone not redone the closet that I just had done

I thought that I was gonna be so excited to like put everything back and like in its place and everything but it literally just looks like a bomb went off in there and I Just don't have any intentions of cleaning it this week. I'll get to it next when I get back from Tyler I also wanted to say to your point about just like all the shit going on in your house I get very overwhelmed When there's like a lot going on around me It just like feels like very chaotic and I just don't do well with it The thoughts of things going on in the kitchen

Things going on in a living room things going on in a playroom Me trying to do something absolutely not I it's a lot It's it's a lot and I definitely I think over the over the years I've learned to manage being overwhelmed by it because it was my choice to have all these children and the animals and things like that And so I just try my best to manage it at this point My kids kind of understand like boundaries now and over stimulation because they also get overstimulated So as long as I like am open about how I'm feeling they understand it It's the communication and the delivery right like yeah communicating that properly where it's effective instead of

destructive Right, right, right, right? So I found a couple of Ticktocks, so I want to start off with tick tock o'clock Well, these are ticktocks that unfortunately have to be played because there's no way to like really summarized these thoughts And also I want you to hear it from another person's voice because I just think that it will sit differently And this first tick tock is about a stepmom. I don't have that situation going on yet

But I was having some major thoughts in my bathroom this morning and when we get finished listening to this I'll tell you those thoughts and parents divorce and they're remarried Should kids spend time with the stepmom while the other parent is at work? No, the kids should be with the biological mom, especially in childhood. Why well? Because we need a connection with our biological parents if the stepmom and mom get along sure But if they don't know if they don't then that means that that kid is spending time with someone that hates their mom How is that healthy? So again all the parental wars all the stepparent and the bio mom hate who is that really helping?

It's not helping the kids and it's also Creating trauma and that's not something that I would ever want to have on my conscience Wow, okay, so I Am kind of floored by that only because My entire Co-parenting journey over the last 10 to 13 years has been like Kail You need to get over it You need to move on from you know not liking this person or that person not liking you just get along with for so and so

And that's kind of been You know what I'm struggling with in terms of Lincoln's situation is like, you know, we don't like each other I have apologized twice now doesn't want to accept it or even respond to them. That's fine But I agree like I guess I never really agreed I've been forcing myself to believe that I need to move on a pilot be you know be the bigger person and apologize Be civil put on it, you know a show when Lincoln's around and things like that And I've seen other people say, you know, especially on tiktok's and stuff like you got me fucked up If you think I'm gonna you know have my kid be around someone who doesn't like me and I never like I've always been programmed

especially because of viewers of teen mom you know Essentially telling me to get over it and let and and and fake it till I make it sort of thing And I never understood the the parents who are like, I don't want my kid around someone who doesn't like me but the way that she describes it makes complete sense to me and I I'm legit sick over this like I cannot believe that you even where did you where did you find I found it and Literally, it's how I think so when I saw it. I was like, wow This is exactly my thought process

But also I feel like Kale needs to hear it because I do think that Generally, we are conditioned to feel like we need to make best of situations and be the Apologizer and it's a fake apology, right? Because if you're not really sorry for what you are apologizing for and you're just apologizing for the sake of being able to have that Getting a long aspect for the kids Then you're also Teaching them long-term. They'll realize that that's fake and you're also teaching them long-term to fake it

Basically until you make it and I'm trying very hard not to teach Jackson that and not to issue apologies that you don't mean I Don't want to blame everybody else for this. I think that I've definitely contributed my own Like I've done my dirt in the situation I am sorry for some of the things that I did. I very much am and it takes a lot for me to apologize for something I will say that while I have been sorry for certain things I also have apologized for Lincoln because I want to do whatever is best for Lincoln I cannot believe that someone other like other than me think other than me say, yeah, like I Know well and then I have a whole nother string of thoughts about it because when you lay down with someone and

You guys electively make a choice Consciously or subconsciously to have a child together you came first before someone else comes into the picture So in my opinion, I feel like Unfortunately that second person has to adjust to what's there first You shouldn't be adjusting to them. That's a good point, too Do we know if she's an attorney or who she is like what does she do? I don't know. I just saw it and I was like absolutely. I agree. There's a couple more points that I want to make that biologically your parents are always going to be your parents and if you are

raising a child with someone that you are not with and they cannot Be with that child, but you can I feel like a step parent. They could get divorced. They could stay in their life forever Who knows like what that situation could play out to be but you're always going to be your child's mother or your child's father biologically That is why I have that first right of refusal clause in my agreement Because I did fear that, you know, if one of us gets remarried You're already losing 50% of your time if you're sharing 50% of your time, right? So when you're already losing that Why should you be giving that up to someone else who might be a part of your child's raising?

But is not raising your child, right? I just the way that she you know said but it creates trauma for your child to hang out with someone that hates your Parent like a hundred percent a hundred percent. There's no way that subconsciously there are not aspects that come out in engagement with Your child with a step parent that are because of them hating you if that makes sense. I The thing is like I definitely like we all know my situation with V did not start off great And then over time we learned to work it out

Unfortunately, it hasn't been that way with the other two I don't hate them. I definitely don't hate them. I don't have any feelings at all and like I said to you like I did mean my apology I don't hate them. So I don't I hope that Lincoln understands that growing up Especially or even Lux and Creed 2 like I don't hate their dad's girlfriends Like I don't I don't have any feelings towards them at all But I think that they strongly dislike me if not hate me and to that point it makes me upset I mean, I'm just assuming too because if you're not accepting my apology or you don't believe that I'm sorry There's nothing I can do

There's nothing further that I can do to make the situation better and if you continue to hate but like how do I move forward with that on? You know, how do I go to the other parent and say? Basically, like I don't want my kids spending extra like if you have to go to work Bring my kids back to me because they don't need to spend time with someone that hates me Like how do you how do you express that to the other parent? Well? I think that that's where the legal paperwork, you know comes into play and that's when you have to I've always said this to will from day one. I don't want to have to go textbook by the legal paperwork Now when it comes to holidays and stuff like that. Yes, we're gonna go by that. We're gonna go odd even years. That's fair

but outside of that as far as The the agreement we don't have to go by that as long as we can Co-parent effectively and get along and it not be drama all the time, right? But it's nice to have a fallback in there so that you can fall back and say, you know If you are anything over X amount of hours, then you have to you know Defer the time to me. I'm already losing a certain amount of time and that's already hard to lose. It's already hard to share Yeah, I watched a tiktok last night and it was this woman and she says Co-parenting is so ghetto. I'll post it. She's like co-parenting is so ghetto. She's like I already have to share my child

I don't want to share my child and then she was going on to say about how They just like her child has to readjust when they come back home and we've talked about that before they just have like their own set of rules over there and You know, I just the whole thing is so not what I imagined it would be I will say in your situations I think that there are more differences between the households than And differences between my households agreed. Well, because there's also cultural differences for us correct religious differences cultural differences You know, there's there

Lifestyle differences I Looked at Lincoln this morning on the way to school and because he told me something about his other family You know, it's like that's really cool. I said, that's awesome I said I looked at him in his face and I said, do you know how lucky you are that you both of your families are? You know, you go on a lot of really cool trips with your dad I said your dad has a home and a pool. I said and you know, whatever he whatever else he's got going on Your dad takes you on a lot of fun trips. I said and you come over here. I have a pool. I have a yard I have animals. I have your brothers. I have we do our family trip. I said, do you know how lucky you are?

I can't look at Lux and Creed and say the same and that makes it hard when you have multiple situations to compare internally I can compare externally to other situations and I'm like, wow I'm glad that that's not my situation or wow I really look up to that situation and I'm going to try to implement some of those things but in your case You have internal Conflicts going on because you can compare internally with multiple different situations. Yeah Coffee combos podcast is brought to you by better help. So if you guys are thinking about giving therapy a try I highly recommend better help. This is a great option for people who are considering therapy

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Especially when I'm sitting in the pickup line at school when you know, it takes like 45 minutes to get through it It's really nice. I especially love when there are charming graphics and laid-back gameplay for a full story There's a ton of scandalous secrets on Love and Pies and you can try it today. This is the perfectly cozy game You can download Love and Pies by Trail Mix Games for free It's a casual merge to game where you build your very own cafe combined ingredients and uncover a story of drama and romance So it very much feels like a TV show but like in a game format You guys can play as Amelia as you take over the old family cafe and restore it to its former glory You're gonna meet a diverse cast of characters as you uncover a family story full of secrets and laughs

And you can decorate your cafe and the surrounding area with beautifully designed items It is so fun. They aim to create safe and powering spaces for players of all ages As Kale said with each beautiful game that they create They're fostering a culture of trust respect and creativity for a tasty mix of love and drama download Love and Pies for free today. That's Love and Pies free to download in the App Store or Google Play. I also Want to say that I was in my bathroom and getting ready and I was just thinking about, you know, I am almost two years post-divorce, which is crazy. I can't believe that it it feels like it's been

Longer than that because I feel like I struggled through my marriage for so long That it feels like longer than two years. But then when I look at the actual calendar, I'm like, wow I can't believe I've been divorced for almost two years. That's crazy But now I'm starting to think about things like, okay, well, what if Will ends up with somebody that, you know, has children and their dad maybe isn't like active in their life and Will takes that situation on and it takes time away from my child Like that's not something that I signed up for or my kids signed up for or whatever

And I'm sure Will has probably had like similar thoughts Maybe not like the same thought process but similar and that's just like a hard thing to navigate through because I am very Selfish when it comes to that like I'm not I don't want to give my time That would take away from Jackson and I don't want Will to give his time to another situation That would take away from Jackson like that would be very hard for me I have definitely struggled with my own situation with my own like I gave birth to each and every one of my own children I haven't taken on step kids and I can't tell you how sometimes I don't even know how to describe it or word it There is a sense of guilt with every child that I've had that I'm taking away

a little bit of Something from each child because I have to spread myself thinner and thinner And that was something that I really struggled with when I was pregnant with Lincoln I literally at one point told hobby that he should take the baby and I you know I'm gonna be with Isaac by myself because I don't think I can love anybody like I love Isaac, you know And so I was really struggling or quickly learned that love multiplies But I there is still a sense of guilt because I do have to divide my time like yesterday Isaac had an orthodontist appointment before school and He looked at me. It was like mom. Can we do a mom Sunday? And I you know, I thought yeah, maybe we can

and then Joe, you know, he has boxing Isaac's in boxing now and Joe wanted to meet him over there and I was like, you know If I keep you home from school, then you're not gonna make it to boxing and then your dad and I are gonna have to talk about it And it was just like a lot But things like that where when you only have one you don't have to consider other As many other factors when you just have one or two But people ask me all the time about dividing my time or getting one-on-one time and it's very difficult

And Isaac, I think it was Isaac or Lincoln. I'm pretty sure it was Isaac He asked me if we could go somewhere with just the bigs and not the littles and you know, that's difficult So imagine doing that for another family that are not your own children like their children that you've taken on and I mean, I think because Will and I chose to just have Jackson and we were so Careful about that and like he was he was chosen like I've talked about this before that he was a planned child and very much wanted and You know, we put a lot of thought process into having more kids and you know what that would look like

And so it's hard now post divorce Knowing that you know times ticking along and the longer time ticks along the more likely that We're both gonna end up with somebody and those other Somebodies might have children and what if those other somebodies have children that don't have positive influences in their life with a second parent That does concern me like the thoughts of will not being at like all of Jackson sporting things or like splitting his time Even if he biologically like had another child and the thoughts of that time split it wouldn't that's also really Difficult the time split with other that's what I'm going through that with both with two out of three of my

kids dads I had showed Joe one of these things that Isaac wanted to sign up for on Saturdays and I showed it to him and I said hey like you know Isaac really wants to do this or whatever And he's like I don't know like my daughter has cheering and I need I want to be at both things and I looked at him And I said Unfortunately, you're gonna have to divide and conquer. I said you have more than one kid and You know, it's not fair for Isaac to miss out on stuff because his sister's doing stuff and he's like I know He's like I just have to figure it out because you you're used to this you have multiple children

You've had multiple children for longer, you know what he means So he he was like I have to figure it out and then same thing for whenever we were figuring out Lincoln's basketball stuff At first we tried to keep we tried to do what was convenient for them You know because they had another child and it actually worked out because Lux was also gonna be in that basketball league But it was not beneficial for Lincoln whatsoever. So I had to send hobby this long email and he agreed and He had to learn too about dividing his time between his two kids and it's very difficult And there's no easy way to do it and there's no way to tell how your kids are gonna feel about it

And even me like I have to choose between, you know during football season I've had to choose while my kids are playing at the same exact time What field am I gonna watch from you know what I mean? Like I could only hope that they're playing on fields next to each other so I can be in the middle like it's very difficult whether it's your own kids or somebody else's but That being said, I mean, it's it's I agree with you And I I think that there's no possible way that I will not There won't be resentment

Built right that does happen and I think I've got to be very careful about that I'm glad I'm thinking of these things ahead of time so that I can process Even these thoughts that aren't even in existence yet and they're right so that when I do get there or if I get there Then I'm at least prepared for that But my mindset I don't feel like will ever change regardless if they appear or not that I feel like you know We as a family came first and so that Is very hard for me to say that shouldn't be a priority because I was your wife for regardless whether he gets Married to somebody else. It's gonna take him a long time to catch up for the amount of times that I invested in that you know and

he was your child first and This is all just like hypothetical and I think about it for me too and like what he would have to struggle with if I did it But I think that's a good indication that that maybe I'm not meant to have a second child because I can't even fathoms splitting My time From Jackson and what we do together to give it to another child that would even be biologically mine, right? I think that type of situation would Your your your feelings might change slightly should you have another child you you will learn quickly that love also multiplies

And that you would you would figure it out? Not to say it wouldn't be hard But I do I definitely understand that thought process because I I was I was there I was definitely there even even now like I think about having more kids and you know One am I even raising adult like am I raising children to be good? Citizens goods adult good adults good people, you know all of those things do I want to do that another time? Do I want to be responsible for raising another person and hope that they're a good fucking human and then on top of it? Like what would that look like in terms of my other children or could I wait until they're all like?

Could I wait 10 years from now and have another one when I'm 40 like I don't know There's a lot to consider when having kids and I just I don't know there It's just a lot I do want to say that I feel like if I did have a second child I'm glad that Jackson is already 10 years old because it never would have worked out positively For me Jackson being under that age because I could at least experience things with a child a second child That Jackson wouldn't even be interested in so I would feel less sense of guilt While we're on this topic though

I saw this come on the Shade Room and I know that you're about to get like so heated It says father opens up about having seven children by seven different women. You saw this Cuz I sent it I sent it to another group chat that I have They sent it to oh my god. Wait, I sent this to Chris Perry who's Tick-tock and Instagram famous. I'm pissed off. Go ahead reignite my fire So it says this is a quote from this man. They want me to be responsible for some children I told them that I didn't want it says the man acknowledges that he was irresponsible and didn't wear protection But says you aren't gonna force these children on me when I told you I ain't want them

Yep, he has seven children by seven moms and he told them allegedly from the jump He did not want to have these children he offered to pay for abortions and then basically said that it's not his problem He's not gonna be there. I told you From the beginning he's I understand what he's saying But he's still so fucking ignorant because you know what it takes to have a child. Why are you not pulling out? Why are you and then he goes on to he also says in the tick tock or the video? He says that they're jump offs They're essentially for people who don't know what a jump off is they're these are hoes like why why would I father your

Why would I father a child with a jump off? Well first off you're a jump off too So I don't get it. Oh, I don't understand so I'm and the comments were mixed like some of them were like You know, he told them from the beginning He he wasn't gonna raise this these children with him with them and then other people were like He's so fucking ignorant but like if you don't want to have children with a jump off or you do not want to impregnate these women or put them in a

Position where they could possibly choose to have your child Why are you a not getting a vasectomy to pulling out three wearing protection and furthermore? Don't fucking come back when one of these single moms raises You know somebody who goes on to be, you know, a very well-known a household name Don't don't call them when you know, they make it to the NBA or one makes it to the NFL or one becomes fucking vice president Like don't fucking call the mom then don't call the child then because you're gonna be asked out So let's just let's just say that. Okay. I just want to say piss me off that At the point that you decide to have sex with someone I'm protected

You know as an adult that that is a risk you also Not wearing protection knowing that that's how you feel That's also of risk, but if a man told me that I would be like, okay, well, then you need to Wrap it up. Actually, we just don't need to go this route because you scare me So I don't want to be in a situation to where I have to call you and something like that has transpired And then you tell me what you just told me so that would have been the answer for me period But the fact that this happened With seven different women what that's the thing. I don't understand it. I don't I don't understand them

And like I understand you don't want to have children with these women and you don't respect these women But to take it out on the child Even though you didn't want it and you stated that you didn't want it then you should be doing everything both parties Not just the woman why he's just putting it on the woman. I don't understand Why is he not taking accountability for his own self or his own health? Why are you not doing what it takes to prevent the pregnancies and putting them in the position to continue? Because some people don't believe in abortion. Well, you're offering to pay for an abortion But some people just simply don't believe that they should be getting an abortion

Well at the point that you as a grown person made a choice to Have sex with this person unprotected knowing what the risk was knowing that you didn't pull out that to me Is not even a logical Choice like you saying that you're gonna pay for an abortion That That doesn't fly for me like that doesn't that absolutely doesn't fly for me either. That doesn't work. I have it pulled up right here There's a hundred and twenty nine thousand comments on this um

and Okay, so somebody i'm very pissed off at this comment This comment says I know it takes two to make a baby, but ultimately the woman is control is in control if she gets pregnant or not It's her body. He is a total dead The in jackass, but these women could have prevented having a baby from his sorry ass How does a woman control it more than a man if um, yes, they could say no, but ultimately the man wears the Protection the woman can't really I mean they can but it's not really a thing

um So chris perry, which is the person that I was referring to earlier. He said He forced children upon himself by having unprotected intercourse and not pulling out at that as a man That's irresponsible just because he told the woman he didn't want kids doesn't mean they won't still have them Dude is bugging and now his kids will grow up without their dad way to continue The generation them generational curses Um, and then someone else says a fact a vasectomy is also an option And then multiple people that are verified are saying why didn't this man just get a vasectomy

That's my thing like is he Is he basically like at this point? Not getting a vasectomy because eventually he's going to want to have a kid with someone that he doesn't consider What did you say that he called them jump offs? He called them jump. So I guess he's like waiting for someone Who he doesn't consider a jump off to like impregnate because we know that he can do it because he successfully did it seven times With alleged jump off. So like this this man literally just pisses me off Walk a flock of commented and said this deep All right, this week we are starting to transition in my family from the fall winter sports to spring sports

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Oh my god. I'm dead. Oh my god. I'm deceased. Oh my god. I'm sick. Oh my god. This um, I'm I'm flatlining is one of my favorites. Um They're not good energy. They're not good Manifestations, they're not good to say and you know our brain is very much Like it's like mind over matter, right? So when you're constantly putting those types of things in the into the air into your energy into your life It's not going to do good things for you So she went on to say that instead of saying. Oh my god. I'm dead She was like maybe comment saying oh, wow

I live for this and then like put a heart or like a laughing emoji like something that is the total opposite of You know, I'm dead um So I just I really liked that and I thought that I say that all the time like I put the skull I'll say oh my god. I'm flatlining. I'm deceased like you you know what I mean And so I when she put it into perspective for saying oh my god. I live for this I was like wow that actually makes a lot of sense. So that's what I want to do now That's something that I want to work on for the rest of the year is really

Changing what I'm saying to make it more positive. Well, I think that goes along with your whole mindset of like manifestations and you Get back what you put out And so I mean I do agree with that and in theory is that Is that good? Yes, and do I think that it's it's doable? Yes, but also do I think that's going to take a lot of work because we are

It's just like creatures of habit Um, I will literally have to stop every single time I go to say something negative because sometimes I feel like it's a coping mechanism for me To say something negative So I can just like be in that moment to be like this fucking sucks or you know This life is fucking ridiculous or you know, whatever it makes me feel comforted to know that I'm just like in my negative energy right now And I think that I think I still think there's room for that. I still think that you have to feel

Sad emotions negative emotions all of those things. I definitely think that but yesterday um My friend was she had to go to court for something and she was like well I'm not going to jail and I just have to pay a fine and I was like great. That's good news It could have been a lot worse, you know, like I could have been like I don't know talking shit and been negative, but I was like, you know what it could be worse You know what I mean? So like you'll have to feel getting a ticket and paying a fine still sucks and like All the negative things, but at least you were like, yeah

I mean the alternative is way worse than what's actually going on. Well, and there's a lot to be said about that Sorry, I had to plug in my laptop. I think um, you know saying like totally valid I would feel the same way like validating the feelings and then being positive Yeah, because if someone's just positive all the time, I think that's toxic and I don't love that like Back when I would talk to prison day while he was in prison It was just constant positivity all the fucking time and it would just piss me off. Um, but now it's like You can acknowledge sad feelings, mad feelings, whatever I had a talk with Isaac yesterday about something that he had going on in his life and I said

Um, I told him to write me a text with all of his negative feelings and examples and things like that I said and feel how you feel. I said that's okay to be mad or upset or be hurt by something that someone did I said if you acknowledge it and then you let it go Then there's room for positivity and then go focus on your friendships that are good and don't make you feel like shit Yeah, and so it's the same thing with everything else in life. It's like definitely acknowledge and be validated in your feelings They're that's okay to have negative feelings But I just you know where there's where there's not room for negativity is like if something is funny I don't need to say. Oh my god. I'm dead. I could be like, oh my god. I live for that

You know what I'm just saying those little ways harmless. So I want to try I can't make any promises But I'm gonna try as as we go on your instagram and it's like skulls everywhere I'm like my favorite thing. Wow that effort like really went far. We love that for you I love that. I also just want to to your point about being positive all the time. Um It's toxic. I 1000% agree with that there used to be someone in my life that every single time you were around the person it was Is so positive that I felt overwhelmed by the amount of positivity and not overwhelmed in a good way And I always would say when I would leave this person's presence

I would always tell will I'm like that's a crash and burn situation like that person and the level of Positivity that they have going on Um, they're eventually going to face actual reality and when they do it's going to be really bad And I think the people that are like that that don't Don't sit in their actual emotions sometimes like in the bad parts Um, and they're always just like so positive about everything that when they do hit that point It's literal crash and burn. No, literally. It's I agree. I totally agree. I

It's just not a good place to be. I just I know that sounds crazy and it sounds like a An oxymoron maybe but it just I could not imagine just being positive all the time and never Actually, Isaac has expressed to me Um at one point and I'm not talking to shit. This is just a co-parenting thing. Um, or like a Something that were we were challenged with Isaac said that like he would talk to his dad about certain things and his dad would be overly positive and would not essentially like validate how Isaac was feeling it is very much okay and very much a part of life to have Feelings of hurt and anger and upset and you know all of those things and you have to validate that for kids

And so Isaac would be like I talked to my dad But he just told me to keep my head up and he told me to stay positive and it wasn't helpful It didn't make me feel better. It's actually I said, that's okay That's funny that you say that because I do feel like through co-parenting you also Teach the other person things Um about themselves through raising a child together together because I've experienced that with will More recently. I mean, he's always been kind of a person that Doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeves and like you never know

What's actually going on like he could be very pissed off or like very happy and you just wouldn't know And I try to encourage him, you know to to let Jackson actually see his emotions in a healthy way because It's also teaching Jackson to suppress his and so I'm like by you doing what you're doing. He's learning those things And whether you realize it or not he's picking up on Every way that you handle a situation And if you don't ever show emotion about anything, it's going to make him feel like he can't Yep, 100% 1000% eyes. Uh lux asked me the other day

Um Do boys cry? I said, yes, sometimes they do. Well, do you cry mom? I said, yeah, I cry a lot I mean, I haven't because of lexapro, but you know, I do cry And lexapro has definitely made me less emotional, but also I still can cry and I do cry but I told him I said, yeah, of course. Mommy's cry like I cry Um, and that that's important to allow, you know Kids to because even if you don't say this is allowed that's allowed or you know when lux asked me that question

They're also seeing what you do without saying anything. So there's definitely been instances where like I know for a fact that Lincoln acts a certain way because he knows How his dad will react even if his dad doesn't say what he's thinking Lincoln has very much done things It handled things in similar ways that hobby has Um, and he's not gonna like that. I said that I'm not talking shit. I'm just speaking to the context of this conversation Um, you you really do need to let your kids see your vulnerable moments and watch you handle things in a very, you know It's okay for men to cry in front of their children. It's okay for moms to cry in front of their children

as long as you explain it to them in a way that they understand and that is Um, you know, not too much for them to handle I say also that as much as it's important to to show your kids Emotions whether they be positive negative Indifferent whatever it may be. It's also important for you to show your kids how to Um, disagree healthily because I think that a lot of kids Um, I've heard so many times I never saw my parents argue growing up and then when we got 18 years old

They divorced and we never knew anything was going on, you know So I do think that there is a level of healthy Disagreement if it's healthy. I agree with you. Um, I want to get to the sex question from the facebook group and then I have Just like some very very brief updates on out myrtle Um, I finished the docu series also by the way, perfect also an update on The gabby potito stuff and one

little small Snipet of the idaho for okay, so the group Topic from the facebook group or the person's topic was a sex question says my partner I won't say boyfriend because we aren't like that yet and I like to have sex But when he's in the throes of it, he likes to put his hands on my neck as if he's choking me He's not actually choking me to where I can't breathe or leave any marks or anything But I've never experienced this before is this normal for guys help a girl out. Yes. Um, this is definitely something that I've experienced and It doesn't typically bother me in the beginning it did because I've had sexual trauma

But like I worked through that and I'm fine with it Um, yeah, I think it's very common. I don't know if normal is the right word, but I definitely common um, I've Had that with one sexual partner But just based off of other conversations that I've had with other people in my personal life I also agree that it is common Um, I'm not wanting somebody to straight up like choke me out to the point that I go unconscious like no like not into that

But I think like a A healthy grab is like, okay. I don't think that's a red flag. I don't think that's like no I don't think and I don't think it's like one of those things. That's like a kink I don't think that that's like a kink if you're like full on choking someone until they are passed out That's a kink. Yep But placing, you know your hand on their neck if you don't like it too like I don't know how old you are But I'm assuming you're an adult if you're in this but I think if you're uncomfortable with it Definitely say something because you don't want it to get too far or you don't want him to take it further

Because he thinks that you like it and then it becomes like very sticky situation I think if it's something that you're uncomfortable with it with him even placing his hand on your neck, maybe just express that Um, you could maybe gently move his hand somewhere else that you do want it and see kind of what you know What happens from there, but definitely have those open conversations because you know in 2023 We're not we're not faking orgasms and you know just getting through something because someone else likes it We're gonna speak up. We're gonna stand up for ourselves. We're gonna do all you know be healthy I 1,000 percent agree with that and I also

um When I say this people are probably gonna be like you need therapy, but to me, um A healthy a healthy grab anywhere Is kind of endearing, you know kind of just like yeah, I'm here, you know I'm here, you know, do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, it's just like you know like a little arm grab, but like not forceful a little neck grab But not forceful a little ass grab titty grab, you know

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Idaho for updates last week we had talked about um the conflict issue with co-burgers representation And I have deep dived on that and because I was I was very interested in myself And there was a zoom Um that co-burger was there with the judge and his representation and taylor And taylor clarified that every document from her office would have her name on it because she is the chief public defender She stated that Zana's mom actually had a different public defender, although her name would appear on the documents because she is the chief public defender Um, she stated that she never had any contact. No relationship never offered legal advice. Um, to Zana's mom

And co-burger had stated in that, um Zoom hearing that he wanted And taylor to still represent him. Um, I believe that this was probably like some type of like conflict hearing and probably co-burger had to address that he was waving any type of conflict once all of the Information was on the table. Uh, okay, which is good because as far as prosecution is concerned, if they, um, Didn't do that conflict hearing That could be very problematic

Right. Yeah. I mean at least they addressed it and straighten that stuff out. I Didn't expect that update. I didn't think that she was going to say that she wasn't did someone say that she gave Zana's mom? Yeah, there there were a lot of different things going around. Um, that she had represented Zana's mom that she had represented Um, one of the other girl, I think maddie's stepmom and dad at some point

I think the bottom line is is that Any papers that are coming from the public defender's office? And taylor's name is going to be on it simply because she is the chief public defender So that's why her name is on all of the documents So that's why her name is on all of the documents. So as far as I know And everything that I've read co burger has waived the conflict and it's still

Has stated verbally that he still wants and taylor to represent him in his case Outside of that, there's not a ton of other details that Are surrounding this. I think a lot of stuff is still Sealed and we're not going to find out that information probably until late june Although there was some information that was released regarding the night of the arrest and the search warrants um, so when co burger was arrested, um They actually found him wearing surgical gloves in his parents kitchen

Um upon the arrest And he was allegedly putting his personal trash in ziploc baggies and this was in the middle of the night In my opinion, this definitely raises eyebrows And would explain a lot from when they did that trash pool from the co burger family home and tested the dna initially Earlier in the investigation when they didn't find a match for the suspect, but they found a dna match for the father of the suspect and it was like 99.9999 something percent

Is he dumb like did he think that putting his trash his personal trash with gloves In ziploc baggies was going to prevent them from testing his parents DNA like is he stupid or is he dumb? I guess he just didn't want his dna to be tested because maybe Based off of his knowledge of the way the legal system works Maybe there's like some reason why he felt that it would be okay for his parents to be tested But not his like who who honestly fucking knows and I don't think he thought about that. I don't think you I think he's so He's smart enough that thinks that he's smarter. He can outsmart forensics

He is and christen and I had this conversation because we're very invested and died of poor He is smart enough to get himself in fucking trouble Like that's essentially the conclusion that I've come to um They did take a dna swab of coburgers mouth. I think it's called like a bucle swab or something like that. Yes, that's the yep Um, I'm sure that they have had that dna Tested to the knife sheath that was found at the scene of the crime Um, with it being a search warrant, he would have had no choice but to give them the sample

So I'm sure I know a lot of people were questioning Um on social media like why would he Have given them the the sample of the dna, but also Again bringing it back to the trash the trash situation If i'm not mistaken um, if i'm not mistaken trash is No longer personal or private property once it's discarded

So it becomes fair game to be tested So had he gone to a restaurant or got fast food and drank out of a straw and then thrown it away I'm pretty sure that they would have been able to get that Also, so he might as well have just given it to them. I think that he was careful enough And i'm going to go out on a limb here because I don't know this to be true or not. This is just my opinion I think he was very aware that he was being followed And I think that he was very aware that they were on his trail And I think that that's why he was methodically moving in the way that he was

I think that he had some indication that his dna would be detected in that trash And they had previously gotten the trash once it once it was thrown away and tested for the dad's dna Um, and that's how they got that match I I think i'm going to go back to statement. He is smart enough to just get himself in trouble Did say that he wore a size 13 shoe. So even though the shoes that were found either on his person

or during the the search through the search warrant um The shoes that were on him Didn't match the vans that were worn the night of the murders It would at least show A size match that if the footprint was in fact a size 13 Um, so I thought that that was all

pretty interesting I just want to say that with technology In forensics, I would never fucking Commit a crime this day and time I would never I would never ever ever ever like Just the idea of it you you would never be able to get away with it Like I don't think that the I truly think that the people who are getting away with murders

And things like that are the ones that were not planned and they just don't have enough evidence But if you're gonna plan a murder you're not getting away with it. I promise you Absolutely not absolutely the fuck not and also you know Why not that you should be like killing anybody anyway, but like right? Why are you killing people that? Like have lot to friends um

Involved family like you followed them on social media. So you you know Know that they're coming and going and doing things and it's not like they're just like some type of like freaking recluse with No family no one that you know is gonna care to find out what happened to them Like you're literally targeting people that are coming for you literally it doesn't make any fucking sense. Like why would you? Why would you go after someone like that that is going to have Have essentially a fan-based or some sort of Group of people who are going to help investigators Take you they were a part of why would you ever it's like they were a part of a posse. Okay, like

Not a posse. You're an idiot. Okay. Um Updates on Alec Murdoch and okay. So first let me say I finished watching the the docu series Did you love it? Um, I did and I was almost wondering if they were gonna add on to it But I guess and I also watched the 2020 situation that happened after his conviction. Mm-hmm Um, at first I couldn't understand The why um, I didn't understand why he killed his wife and his son Um, and I also didn't understand why they would have killed gloria, which in my opinion I believe that they killed gloria. I don't know if it was the wife or the husband

Um alec or maggie. I don't know Um, and I don't know why Paul was there when it happened because that made me also think did he have something to do with it because that hurt my heart because I knew gloria had such a Presence in his life and really helped essentially was the third parent. Um, so that was really upsetting to me Um, I quickly realized that the murdos were so far in debt. They had multiple properties multiple houses he was in a he was What is it called?

Disappropriating. Disappropriating. Disappropriating funds from clients and stuff. And so Essentially in my opinion, he could have killed his wife and his son for the insurance money Which would make sense to me. It all came down to insurance I don't understand why Paul and not buster. Why did why was why did buster get to survive like not that anyone should have died But what how do you decide between sons which one you're gonna kill? So I do think that I read somewhere and y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but um, Alec was the only one that had a life insurance policy. I believe so I don't believe that

Paul or Maggie that that could have been a factor at play because I don't they didn't have life insurance policies on them I don't believe that they had life insurance policies I'll look more into that but I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere that they didn't and that that couldn't have been The the motive to collect the money um I will say I think that A lot of this has to do with the fact that they he got away with so much for so long

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at 9 30 a.m um, he was dressed for his his trial and the verdict everything in suits, you know, you see him getting out of the car from the jail and he's always covering his Handcuffs with his jacket. He shows up to the Sentencing and his jail clothes So I don't know if that was like a requirement by the jail that once he was sentenced He wasn't allowed to change into like street clothes or not. I don't know or if that was just like a choice that he made

But cnn. Um, this is an article from cnn says alec alec murdoch will spend the rest of his life in prison for killing his wife and his son um, he was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and um the but before the judge handed down the two consecutive life sentences He reminded murdoch of his astonishing fall from gray saying that he um, had to have a portrait of murdoch's grandfather removed from the courtroom to ensure a fair trial Which I so he is the fourth generation alec's murdoch um, is the fourth generation for those people who are listening that don't know of the law firm essentially like this law empire um that his own family

Established four generations prior that they had been in this area for about a century and um, he had to resign I think from his own family's law firm. Yeah, um I Really liked this judge. Um I feel like he was no bullshit and I also feel like he saw right through alec

he said that um Murdoch's testimony was not credible or not believable and he also said you can convince yourself about it But obviously you have the inability to convince anyone else like I feel like once the verdict came down um, the judge was Very happy with what happened. Um, and there is a tick talk that is of alec speaking saying that he he was innocent and that you know, he was He was found guilty, but he was innocent and that he would have never killed his wife and his son I also read somewhere that

um, he had plans to appeal um Start the appeals process and what the appeal would be filed. Um within 10 days. So Then as I'm like scrolling through twitter, I see This photo of alec like in this like mustard green over sized shirt like it definitely didn't fit And his entire head shaved. Did you see those photos? Yeah, so um

The little press clip said columbia south carolina richard alexander murdoch will be processed into the south carolina department of corrections today when he arrives at Kirkland reception and evaluation center in columbia s c dc processes all male inmates into the system at kirkland as part of their intake process like all inmates He will undergo medical tests mental health and education assessments and s c dc will gather other additional background information Next the s c dc inmate classification system will follow the same process it follows for all inmates Evaluate results of tests assessment screening administer to him take into account his crime and sentence and use all that information to assign the inmate to

a specific custody Level and prison that process is said to take about 45 days and after the process is complete he will be sent to one of the Maximum security prisons in the state of south carolina Just like all new inmates serving life sentences if there's no Life insurance motive for killing maggie and paul. Why do you what is your theory on why he did it? um Sympathy to get people off his back for other things like what do you think it would have i think that he was going through

Marriage problems and i also think that the situation that was going on with paul with that voting accident I think was drawing a lot of attention to that family so obviously if If dead there's nothing to defend at that point um And then do you think that him not giving the satterfield's money For gloria's death. Do you think that that was more so he sued himself and then kept the money to hopefully Pay off some of his debts. No, I think that he just had a major Problem with authority and I think that he had a major control issue

And I think that He just thought he could do whatever he wanted to do and there were no Reprecussions he knew that family. Do you think killed gloria? I think that he did it. I think i don't think maggie did it Do you think maggie knew that he was doing it? No, I don't I think that he and maggie had severe marriage problems um And I think that she didn't know a lot of the stuff that he was doing and I think it was like a fighter flight situation they had two kids together and

That family was very powerful. I would imagine as a woman if I was married to him I would be scared to fucking divorce him that makes sense, you know, because I was just wondering like why I didn't like how calm Maggie was on the call with when gloria died um, I think that it would I think that when you are Involved in situations like that and you have essentially lived so much of a lie and the man that she was with Had covered up so much that it was probably very hard to decipher from the truth and a lie

and so if he was He has said he is said to be a very Very convincing liar. He just didn't convince A jury after all of the information that they knew there was I think Two jurors were saying Not guilty and one wasn't sure But then it only ultimately took I think three or four hours to deliberate and bring back up evidence that would Further convince the other three juries that he was guilty. Well, so it was said that it only took them 45 minutes to

To change Their verdict, but it took them three hours in total to deliberate Um, that's not a very long time in deliberations just in comparison to my parents case and federal court It was days of deliberation. So when you're talking about three hours of deliberation um, and only Two or two were not guilty and one was unsure and it only took them 45 minutes to change the other side To me that says that says a lot I think and correct me if I'm wrong for anyone that's listening or Lindsay. You may know Kristen. You may know

I think I've read that statistically the shorter the deliberation the higher the chances of of guilty or like Essentially the longer it takes to deliberate the higher the chance there is an acquittal Yes, that is true. Um, that was true for my parents case I I think for like OJ Simpson as well We we literally thought um just by the questions because the jurors can bring back questions, you know into the courtroom and then You know prosecution defense have to come in and hear these questions that come back from the jury. I didn't know that I had no idea. Okay. So when you're the floor of a juror or foreman or whatever the person who like speaks for the the jury Uh-huh. He will send notes to the judges chambers if they have questions

and once that question goes into the judges chambers, then they bring in the defense and the prosecution into the courtroom and they They hear the questions coming back from the jury So is everyone still in the courthouse when that is happening? Like they have to deliberate in the courtroom while everyone is still there. So essentially like no, so Once the jury goes into deliberations, they go into a different part of the courthouse where they are deliberating The prosecution goes to the prosecution side But they're all in the courthouse, but they're everybody is still in the courthouse

So they're not like leaving to go home and get dinner and do all that and come back it is Okay, but in my parents case that is true. They were under oath They are considered under oath if the deliberations Take longer than the time that the courthouse is open And they leave and come back and they're still deliberating the next day. They are considered under oath When they leave so they can't discuss it. They can't do anything like they're not allowed to like turn on the news Nothing. Okay. Got it. That's how that works. That makes sense. Um Also, I saw this tick tock and we will post it when this episode airs. Um,

It was two inmates that were having conversation. Um About where alex is scheduled to serve his time And it said this is a quote when he goes to the yard. There are more Where there are more hostile level threes and Men who are invested in the gangs people will be waiting on him Um, it said from a person that was there. This was like a jailhouse call People are already waiting on him. He will be expected upon arrival and police can't protect you So I am very interested to see

You know, what happens and what comes out once he does report the actual facility that he will be serving his time Um, there also was an article that came up from crime online And it's this woman speaking out. Um She is said to be a sex truck trafficking victim and claim that alex myrtle battered and raped her years before the slaying so um Where I would Most likely say in other cases that women like people come out of the woodwork saying stuff, you know, when when one person comes out

You have to be careful about You know immediately assuming someone's guilty of something However, in this case, I believe that this woman that this could very well be true Um, absolutely because she would be scared. Yeah, I mean, I'd be scared of his power as well, too Like what what could he do if I do something about this when he's very well connected with all You know, no, I would I would not have come forward now that he's in custody She probably felt safe enough to come forward and if there's one there's probably more well

I agree. Um, this article and I'll post this too But it says I thought I was going to die sex Sex trafficking victim claims alex myrtle battered and raped her years before slaying um The south Carolina prosecutors have declined to say whether they would prosecute him for allegedly assaulting a sex worker in 2014 and 2015 She says that she lost consciousness. He battered her and ripped her hair from Um ripped hair from her head during their four encounters that she had with him um

However, the south carolina attorney general's office recently told the daily mail that myrtle had 99 grand jury charges against him Including fraud but none stemmed from the claims that were lodged by this woman Um We'll add it to the list because he should be tried and convicted for that as well And then there's a quote that says we do intend to pursue the other charges pending against alex myrtle However, there are no charges against him at this time related to sex trafficking or sexual assault We cannot confirm and certainly cannot comment on anything that may or may not be under investigation

So that was from a an agency spokesperson. So I will post that article for you guys to be able to to read more in depth but I will be interested to see what all actually does come out of the woodwork now that he is behind bars and And people will feel safer to be able to come out and say something It would be very hard to come out and say something Against someone with so much power. Do we know if buster has made any statements? I do know that he had followed a police report against the media For feeling unsafe because the media has

Been following him like crazy. So I don't know that he has he has said anything Um, I just read that this morning. Is did he ever finish law school? Did he go to law school? I don't think so. I think that he got kicked out or something for plagiarism What? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he he got kicked out of law school for plagiarism What the fuck? Okay, like the murdolls. I can't um, okay moving on Let's do foul play first one So I don't know if this counts as foul play But it's freaking embarrassing and I've only told like three people this story. Well now

Three people plus a lot of listeners plus me and kail plus christin Um, it involves a vibrator and my parents Both of them. So this was around four or five years ago just before I moved in with my now fiance I was still living at home with my parents. So one night I was peacefully drifting off to sleep and I heard this loud very loud noise coming from my plug outlet next to my bed It sounded kind of like a buzzing alarm sound. I had literally just fallen asleep before it happened So I woke up in a panic and screamed for my parents come help me to stop it My dad turned off the switches and took out the plugs in hindsight

This probably wasn't safe and there actually was an electrical issue I told my mom to go turn off the switchboard so that she would shut down all the electrics in the house It literally sounded like the wall was going to explode. We stood there for maybe 10 seconds thinking What to do when my dad went over to the nightstand and opened it There hidden right at the back was my bullet vibrator loudly vibrating against the wooden drawer One tiny little vibrator causing so much commotion. No shit That's what they are intended to do Um, those little tiny bullets are so powerful mortified as an understatement. My mom was like, oh

Oh, okay. And my dad said maybe we will keep that one a secret. They kind of laughed a little and then said, all right Good night. I was so traumatized. I don't recall saying anything at all I usually hid my vibrator in a different drawer way more hidden than this one But that night I put it in there and I was sleepy. Yeah, because you literally got off and decided that you were gonna ptfo Ptf piss the fuck off pass the fuck out pass the fuck out It's never been spoken about since my family and I have a very close to relationship But thankfully this has never been brought up again. I love you guys and the podcast the foul play section has me dying every episode

Okay, first of all ma'am Well, I would never feel comfortable having a vibrator in my parents home Oh, like that's like not a thing like that's that's not a thing like No, I definitely have had Sex toys in every house no matter who I was living with or staying with because that's a life no, like

no What if your parents are just like perusing around and they're just like Seeing that well for me. It's more my kids like Isaac asked me I think I told y'all like what are you doing with that penis structure? What did he call it sculpture? What are you doing with that penis sculpture? um, and so definitely traumatizing I found as a child. I found A sex toy in my mom's drawer one time. But like why was I snooping? I was like 10 years old?

What the fuck was I looking for? Yeah, like why is everybody so nosy further? um, she literally used that bullet she got off and then she put that shit in her nightstand and Went to bed and then was abruptly Woken up by it turning on and I'm like, yeah, of course It's going to be going crazy because that's what it was literally doing on your clit Kristen sent me the second one. Hi Kale and Lindsay first off love the pod have been listening since the start Now for the fun part. I was dating my first boyfriend when I was a sophomore in high school

We had been together a few months and I was in love. I decided he was the one I wanted to lose my virginity to We had talked about it and I had asked him if he had sex before and he said yes I didn't ask other questions. I mean, why would I now fast forward to the sex part? The first time was in a Taco Bell parking lot in the back seat super classy of me lol That is a kill move Wasn't anything special obviously just painful due to it being the first time fast forward to the next few times We went to his house while his parents weren't home and I headed upstairs Instead of me. Oh instead of taking me to his room. He takes me to his brother's room. We're not

Yeah, there's lots of things with this story that I'm not a fan of Well, then we're getting into it side note I was 14 and had no idea about having sex foreplay getting wet nothing We went right into it and obviously I wasn't wet so you know the dick wasn't going in lol This man then proceeded to get up go to the kitchen bring black bring back a glass of water Sprinkle it down there with his fingers expecting it to help Again, I was 14 and in love so I didn't think twice The the water obviously did not help the case flash forward to now

I'm 24 and have been dating my boyfriend not the water guy for almost eight years We have great sex and now I can clearly tell This guy did not have sex with anyone before me because if he did he would have never grabbed the water I we ended up breaking up a few months later because he cheated on me But now I can look back laughing because I didn't miss out on much. Hope this gave you guys a laugh Love you both. Okay. That's one of the reasons why I don't like A shower sex because the water makes it more of like a rubbery consistency. That's not pleasurable But to go get a glass of water even at four because I also lost my virginity at 14 years old

If john would have gotten a glass of water and sprinkled it down there I Would have been like what are you like? What is no? No? No? No? No? No at the point that you weren't wet enough for it to go in That's a good indication that you should not be doing it um But when you're young I can tell you that I have never had a wet problem Ever but that's because in the situations that I have been in

I was like fully in it. You know what I mean, right? Right. It was very consensual. It was wanted. It was desired Yes, yes, I agree. Um, I definitely don't like the idea that like the first time was in a Taco Bell parking lot. It's like But consider their ages. They were babies. They were 14. I mean, obviously I'm if I had to guess the guy probably Had a car. Um, she was 14, so she couldn't drive. I hope he had a car I hope it wasn't some random's car or their parents car, but I'm not judging. Um, well, I'm not trying to be judgy either I'm just like, you know, obviously my story is not like the greatest either. It wasn't in a Taco Bell parking lot, but Was it Wegmans?

Ma'am. No, it was it was on jersey sheets. It was on jersey net sheets and wills bedroom Um, college bedroom, but I'm just like that wasn't like a romantic anything either And I just need to know if anyone else before you lost your virginity like had ideas that This was gonna be like a very like romantic You know, like you were gonna be somewhere that had like beautiful furniture and like A nice aesthetic. It was an Instagrammable location Yeah, like was that your thoughts because also saying like that was my thoughts and it just didn't happen that way

Um, don't regret my situation, but I'm just saying like if will try to fuck me at Taco Bell I would be so pissed Um, also I would be so pissed just want to say that, um If He put water on your hua He didn't he had not had sex before. No, absolutely not. Absolutely. So like that's the one thing that she is right about and in this

scenario With that being said, I am Um, going to go and take care of my 95 other things that like I have left to do for the day Um, if you guys have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast on instagram Make sure you follow us over there. If you have not followed us on tiktok You can see our faces there And if you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that by searching any podcast app Um and always first at podcast one. Hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See ya

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