Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Divorce With Boundaries & Should They Go To College

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

CC304: Bra straps are out in this episode that we are now dubbing as Cozy Convos. Lindsie brings up a study that shows the difference between three different types of divorced parents and Kail cannot relate more to all three types. Lindsie shares where she lands and how her own divorced parents influenced her divorce situation. Another update on the pharmacist situation leads to a conversation about whether college is worth it in the long run. As usual Kail and Lindsie have some differing opinions but in the end agree to support their kid's decisions. Lindsie is excited for the new chick fil a sandwich, Kail is not about the Cash Only life, and Foul Play reminds us to always check our bags for forgotten sex toys.  Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more!  Thank you to our sponsors!Kiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEEStamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!Stitch Fix: Try StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos today and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your field scale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the Fakerie anymore. There's a Fakerie bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Highlands who crissly. Good morning, Halen Lowry. Today is Coffee Combo's podcast that I am now dubbing this as Kozy Combo's. So, Kozy Combo's. Okay. Well, my broth straps are showing and I'm not giving a fuck, so it's definitely Kozy Combo's cozy combos. It's whatever goes, you know? It's a nasty rainy day here today. And on those days, I don't know about anybody else,

but when I wake up, I immediately want to go back to bed. No, I literally, I don't understand why my kids decided to get up at 6.30 in the morning when we're not back to school yet. Like we literally have a week left. And so I just don't understand why they want to wake up so 6.30 in the morning when we're not back to school yet. Like we literally have a week left and so I just don't understand why they want to wake up so early. You know what? I was going to ask you, are you the type of mom that throws your kids directly back into the back to school routine on the first wake up of school or do you like pre-plan

that like a week in advance to like start getting them routine? Well, since we're week on week off, it depends on the year. So this year, they come home the day before school starts. Do you have conversations with the dads about getting them in the bed earlier? No, I don't, because I can control what goes on over there. And I think I would get myself very worked up and very upset

if they did not listen to me about it because I was thinking that too especially for Lux. Lincoln's not so much a problem. Lux and Isaac, they are, Isaac's not a morning person, like he's just not, he could sleep till 2 in the afternoon. Lux is more hell wake up but he's two in the afternoon. Lux is more hell wake up, but he's having an attitude. So Lux and Isaac specifically need a routine leading up to back to school. But I know that they're like, I'm not, I'm choosing my battles and that's not one of them. That was a conversation that Will and I had before school started back. We were like, I don't care if it's Monday and Tuesday and he's at your house, I don't care if it's Monday and Tuesday and he's at your house.

I don't care if it's Wednesday and Thursday and he's at mine. This week, going into school, he needs to be yearin' up for bed by 8.30. All lights off, all TV off by nine o'clock. I agree with you. I wholeheartedly agree with you, but it just doesn't work that way for us.

I, um, and this whole last week, I don't know what it is, but my kids wanted to sleep in my room, so I had all of them in my room. They got the nugget couches and laid them on the floor of my bedroom, and then they all slept on a nugget couch.

I, and creed in my bed, obviously, because he, he, he, he, he, he because he sleeps in my bed, but I was just like, I don't know what's going on, what's in the water, what is happening here. And then second to that, I got an email from the school that Isaac never returned his charger for his Chromebook and it's $40. And that's another thing.

I texted joy, I said, I'm not giving him the $40. He needs to earn it or he needs to figure out how to get it. I'm not giving it to him because that was his, he's very much old enough. He would never let his phone charger get lost. He never, you know what I mean? No, he probably would let his phone charger get lost. You know what, and it just steals yours.

You're right, you're right. But here's the thing, I don't have a Chromebook, so he can't steal my Chromebook charger. I'm not responsible for that. You knew that you had to be responsible for that, and you weren't, and your nine-year-old brother didn't lose his. So you're gonna pay somehow some way, whether it's out of your piggy bank or whatever.

You can earn it. I'm not gonna do it. You love your piggy bank. Goodbye. I'm serious. And Joe said, okay, he has it. So I was like, it has it as in like, it's his money, or you're gonna give it to him.

And he said he has the $40 at his dad's house, like, saved up. So that's another thing about back to him. And he said he has the $40 at his dad's house like saved up. So that's another thing about back to schools. Like, I don't know. But that kind of shit just drives me nuts. I'm like, why are we that irresponsible? That I understand that the $40 isn't mine if it's yours. But like I'm still pissed off

that you're spending $40 on something that's completely unnecessary to spend it on. But you know what? I think he'll keep track of his Chromebook charger this year because he don't want to pay the $40 out of his hard earned saved money. Piggy bank money. Piggy bank money. God, God bless.

I was having a conversation with Christen the other day. And I was just like, I don't understand like where you have kids and then like everything changes in your life. No, literally. Every fucking thing. There's not one thing that stays the same. She was like, I don't know,

this is like really making me think about kids and honestly co-parenting with a 50% of the time seems great because then you get a little bit of a break from dealing with a bullshit but you really don't ever get a break. That's a thing. Right, because you're still, I'm sure you're the same way, like any of my kids dads could call me and be like, hey, I can't do this or can you come do this? I take Isaac for, I take Isaac for haircuts on his dad's week. I will make sure that like Chris text, he emailed me the other day. I was like, I can't get them on Sunday. Can we exchange Monday?

So like just because it's 50, 50 doesn't mean it's 50. Well, we were also chatting about hygiene and just the stupid stuff that we have to go through as parents that like no one really did I sign up for this? Yes, I, I, in fact, signed up for this, but like did I know exactly what I was signing up for? Absolutely not. Like I had no idea that I was signing up

to find my 10 year old sitting in the shower floor, not using so wasting water. And we happen to redirect like why are we having a conversation about what you should be doing in the shower that you're not doing? Well, Lincoln told me when he got home from his dad's, he was my dad forgot to clip my toenails and he wants you to get the dirt out of my toenails. We just had this exact conversation about why Jackson came home and looked like he could climb a tree with his toenails and fingernails. And I'm like, this is so foul.

Like I was because what were I doing there? That's what I was like, why didn't you forget? Well I know. I specifically, your 10, you're about to be 10. I do not want to dig the, you know, like the sides of your toenails, like the corners. Like the crusties, like I don't want to do that anymore. Like for Lux, he sits for Creed, he's three,

but for a 10 year, I don't want to do that anymore. Why, I don't want to do it. I cannot. No, I text will. And I was like, thanks a lot for not clipping Jackson's toenails and fingernails because it's such a task because Jackson hates to have it done. That and haircuts, like for his whole life,

he has hated nail clippings. He thinks that you're gonna quite literally solder his toenail off. Finger off. And haircuts, I don't know why that's always been like an undertaking, which I've always taken on both of those tasks. As well, I was like at any point in the last five days that you had Jackson, did you like take a dander or like a passer-byer look at his fingernails and toenails like did you see them because I Immediately saw them when he walked in the store and Immediately got nail putters back to your statement about your bra straps

Mm-hmm. I have been meaning when we were having the conversation about being like a 90s mom When I was growing up, it was like basically rude if your bra strap was showing. Yeah. Now I feel like you either just don't wear bra or bra straps at some point became like a fad like where it was totally acceptable and okay for you to like show a bra strap, but when I was growing up,

that was not a thing. You were not allowed to happen. I think it started with the cami situation because it was a tank top. Yeah, but it had a built in bra situation. So even if you wore a bra under it, I think it was just all the straps, it just didn't matter anymore.

Because I also remember that. It was offensive. My kids are very upset. If my bra is like this, like sometimes it'll slide down and if I'm doing something and my kids, which is so weird because it is more accepted today, I don't know where they get it from. All of them get really upset if my bra strap is showing.

Like they get very upset. They're like, mom, your bra is coming down. Like they get so upset and I don't understand it. Okay, back to the KME conversation. Do you remember when it was like so popular to wear KMEs and they had like the built-in bras? Everybody that's listening to this, if you grew up at the same time as us or you had kids that grew up at the same time as us, you're going to know this fat. So you'd go to Avacrombee or Hollister. Arapostale had them too and they were the cheaper ones. Okay, but I never shopped at Arapostale until... isn't that like airy now?

No. Airy is through American Eagle. So what's Arapostale? It's like okay out of all the like really trendy stores when we were kids like Abacrombie Hollister, Arapostale was like the more affordable one. It was like an American Eagle, but Aura Pustell was like the more affordable out of all of them. Now it's more of like, at least in here, I can't speak for all of them, but the ones here are more like on the Deb level,

like super, super, just not cool anymore. What, wait, what's Deb? on the Deb level, like super super, just not cool anymore. What, wait, what's Deb? Ma'am. What, what's Deb? Who's Deb? Oh my God. I'm gonna show you Deb.

Deb was where everyone got like, their formal dresses with the Zebra and the purple sequins or like the, you don't know what Deb is? No. Oh my God. Never heard? No. Oh my God. Never heard of her. Oh my God, hold on. You, it's like, I am sick right now.

Who the fuck is Deb? And why is it Deb? Deb. You never heard of Deb. Deb was like the it place. You could get so much stuff. It was super affordable, but it was like kind of trendy. They had like a lot of

seek those sequin bags that were like big in the early 2000s. Wasn't there a place? No, I don't remember that, but I'm thinking that that place is kind of like a place that we used to have called like rainbows or something. Yeah, rainbows also a thing, but like not as big as Deb. Okay, so, but kind of similar, right? Yes. Okay, okay, that's exactly what I was imagining. Okay, so I was an Abercrombie girly and I would go and get all the little camis and put the like shirts that like cut down like really low

with the camis under those shirts, remember that trend? Yeah. Okay, and I don't care what anybody says. We were all wearing bras under those panties that had the built-in bras, because bitch needed to look like she had some titties. Yeah, we're just having like a little push up a little bit.

Yeah, just like a little bit. So you had like slight cleavage, but like not really. You just were really using the bra as padding. Did you ever stuff your bra? I never, I never stuffed my bra because I was just afraid that it was gonna be like lumpy or someone would know and so I was very afraid,

but I did have girlfriends that stuff their bra and it was just, I was just scared it was gonna come out. I wonder what all bra stuffers were using. Like I never stuffed my bra either. Quite literally if I would have even thought about stuffing my bra, I would have been killed. I wonder what people use to do it. Tissues probably.

Is that it? I don't know, my one girlfriend, she stuffed it with tissues. And I never under, like I was just like. I think some people stuffed it with socks. Oh yeah, you know what? She might have also done that. Okay, moving on.

A couple of weeks ago, I had talked about some concerns about a personal life situation that I've been going through for a long period of time. Not gonna get into the nitty gritty of that situation if you're listening, you're aware of what that situation is. Just wanted to simply say any concerns that I have previously voiced or no longer a concern. I have amicably reached an agreement with other party

and we're both happy to be able to move on with our separate lives. Amen, we don't need the trauma. So I'm about to move. Amen, sister. All right, now with back to school, since I mentioned it a hundred times already, I want to remind you guys that Stitch Fix is perfect.

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And you can also have the option to set it and forget it with regular fixes. So you're completely in control. So thanks to Stitch Fix. they just get us here at Coffee Combo's and they'll get you to try today at StitchFix.com slash Coffee Combo's and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your fix. That's StitchFix.com slash Coffee Combo's StitchFix.com slash Coffee Combo's. Okay, something else. I saw this study and I watched, it was a video and I watched it multiple times.

I'm not gonna go through the entire study because I wanna hear what you think is the best case scenario in this before I tell you what the findings were. I saw the same study. So you did, darn it. I was gonna put it on, I was gonna bring it up today and then that's so funny because that's where like,

we're here because I was also gonna bring it up, but go ahead, I'll let you continue. So according to studies, children and divorce families do best when they're boundaries in place between parents. This was a very interesting study to me Children and divorce families do best when there are boundaries in place between parents. This was a very interesting study to me and I think that I've been both of these families if that makes sense.

Like at some point through my co-parenting journey? Well, there's three types. There's three types, but I think that I have been two of those types through my journey. Okay, I think I've been all of them. So a group of people looked at three different divorce households in order to determine in which situation where kids the healthiest and thriving down the road the most. The first household represented mom and dad who got along really well. In fact, they talked all the time via all different forms of communication, phone, text,

email. They still attended all school, phone, text, email. They still attended all school functions together, holidays and birthdays. They even had dinner together as a family several nights a week. And household number two, it was the exact opposite. Mom and dad did not get along at all. Could be early being the same room together. They communicated only via family wizard. They attended no holidays, birthdays or events together, and any interaction between them

was non-amicable and borderline toxic. And the third household, mom and dad, had respectful communication at all times, especially in front of the kids. They did not communicate all the time, but when they did, it was usually via texts. They attended some family events together, or school events together, birthdays and holidays, but not every event was attended together.

Peaceful situation where mom and dad each had their own separate life and would occasionally come together for the benefit of the children. Which of these have you been? All of them. And different situations with the different dads, or you've been all of these in all situations. A combo of both. So I think I've been all three of them with hobby. I've been two of them with Jo and I've been one of them with Chris. So you've been two like I've gone through with Jo. I have. Can I guess? Can I guess before you say? Okay.

So with hobby, you've been all of those scenarios with Joe. You have been scenario two and scenario three. Wait, what are the order? I don't remember the order of the scenario two was non-amicable. Yes, and then amicable with boundaries. Yes, with the third you have been scenario two. Correct. New it. I've been scenario,

because any issues that I've ever had with Will, as far as like any co-parenting or life decisions that have gone on post-abourse, those have been all so short lived. And I think sometimes when people listen to the podcast and I bring up something, it's like there's always something going on. There's literally not always something going on.

I'm just very honest about the things that are going on. We have, at first, when we first divorced, I think we were attempting to be scenario one. Yeah. We have moved to scenario three, amicable with boundaries. I wouldn't really ever say that we were scenario two, because there's never really been a time that we haven't been amicable in communication, even with disagreement.

The only time that we were not amicable was when the golf cart accident happened. Which, I mean, there's gonna be those, but I think general big picture is like, you're more amicable than you are not. Not. What's really interesting to me, when I first read the study and heard the video,

I immediately thought of Alessandra from Fibon and kind of thriving. So she became a friend of mine through V and she has talked to me on the podcast. I think it was on BabyMommless like a while ago. She had said, and if I can find the episode I'll link it. If not, I'll ask Alessandra if she can like bring it up again. She said that her parents were scenario one and it really fucked her up. Oh really?

Yeah. Okay, so that's interesting that you had that conversation with her because it said that the first household, the children were resentful because they felt like mom and dad should have never gotten divorced. It was confusing to them why they were able to maintain such a good relationship with one another yet get a divorce and have kids living in two different houses. Was that what she was describing? Yeah, she said it didn't as a child. It didn't make sense to her and she was, I don't remember if she said she was angry and I'll like I said, I'll try to link it or find the episode or maybe she'll talk maybe she can like re-bring it up. I'll tell her to like listen to this. And I remember you and I sort of touching on that topic because there was a time where Havi and I were doing

the same thing and it was just like, why aren't we together? Why didn't we work together? Mm-hmm. And you know, I think there was a lot of hurt on both sides. And I'm not saying that now, I'm not saying that that's the case now. I'm just saying like this was like before significant others, before Lauren, before Elijah,

before all of that, you know, we couldn't figure it out. Like it was like we, and like even now we can joke via email about how much Lincoln sports costs, you know, and it's like, you know, I got it this time, you got it next time, or we'll split it down the middle, or, you know, we have something coming up, and you're like, well, it's on your time, so you should pay for Lincoln's ticket. And I'm like, sir, you know, so like we can joke about stuff like that,

but like why didn't it work when we were together and we were doing trips together, and you know, we've done trips together, we've taken Lincoln to Atlanta together. And, you know, for some reason, but I'm glad that we have figured, I'm glad that we're at the point we are now because I don't want Lincoln to grow up with that resentment

and be like, well, my mom's was so-and-so, my dad's was so-and-so, but they're best friends, and I don't want that resentment for him. You know, when you first go through divorce, I think that you wanna try to eliminate hurt from your kids. So you try to do all of these things that are really like overreaching in the situation, that you weren't even doing whenever you were married, because there was a time

once Will and I started co-parenting that we were doing that so much better than we ever parented together in our marriage. Right. And so then that caused a lot of confusion, I think for me and for him and then also for Jackson because he saw how healthy that situation was and we were all doing things together. Right. That it was like the healthiest place that we had ever been in since we had him. Right. And it just didn't make sense. I had, which one was the situation where it was like come together for some holidays? Was that two or three?

That was scenario three. So one of my childhood best friends, Shelby, shout out to Shelby. She's never going to listen to this. But when we were kids, she was raised by a single mother, but they were very well to do. They had whatever. So I would go over there all the time and she would talk to me. kids, she was raised by a single mother, but they were very well to do, you know, they had whatever. So I would go over there all the time and she would talk to me.

Her and her mom would tell me about how her dad would come over with his new wife for Christmas and stuff. And as a child, I was like, what in the hell? But they weren't, they wouldn't come together all the time. Like I grew up with her from the time we were three until the time I moved away like 12 something. And I only had met her real dad, like a handful of times, but that he would always come over for Christmas or think, I'm pretty sure it was Christmas. I don't remember about Thanksgiving. But I just remember being like, what the heck? Like that's so, like that sounds so weird, but I wonder how, like as an adult, I wonder how she feels about that. It would be interesting to know. I love to find out when I see stuff like this, to like pull people in my personal life,

and I know that it've been through situations, to be like, okay, well, was this, you know, did this make you feel like different as an adult? Like, now looking back on that, did you struggle with that? I think about my parents, and because they were, you never want like extremes, right? Like extreme one way or an extreme the other way. I think it's like this middle of the road situation

that is really good, but never toxic. My parents, when they were co-parenting, were extremely toxic. It was always contentious and we knew it as kids. So I can say because of that, I never wanted my parents to be together, never experienced that because I saw what it looked like with them being apart and how they were just so foul to each other that I wouldn't want to live under the same roof as that. I would rather go between the houses than to have to live under the same roof with those two folks. I think that I was trying so hard whenever I first of worse from Will that I didn't want

things to change for Jackson that didn't have to change and I was basing things off of the fact that Will and I were not with other people. And I think Covey and I made that mistake too. Setting habits that we could not continue long-term. Yep. And so it looked like things, for example, when I gave Jackson, Georgia, I didn't have him for that Thanksgiving. And so I set up like a style picnic at all of the favorite things, surprised him with

Georgia and Will was a part of all of that. And he was a part of a lot of stuff for the first year. We went to a place called Stars and Strikes, which is like a little arcade, and like, Did Jackson's birthday, and both went and did that with him as a family. And now I look back on that, and I think it was part of our process, and I don't want to say that I regret

doing it that way because I think it helped us be where we are now. But if I had to go back and make different decisions knowing what I know now, I would have drawn that line immediately at divorce of this is what our new normal looks like and that is not ever going to be acceptable when we are with other people. That's only acceptable now, and not something that we can maintain, so we're actually doing him a disservice. And...

Well, it's not just him, it's doing each other a disservice too, because if there's, if any one of you, and like I said, Hobbie and I made them same a fake, I think there were lingering feelings at different times, not necessarily at the same time, but there were lingering feelings personally, times, not necessarily at the same time,

but there were lingering feelings personally, take the child out of it for each other. That was blurring those lines too. And then it was like made it even further harder to maintain if we were gonna try to do this when there's significant others. But you couldn't when there's lingering feelings too. So it's like-

Well, it's not cut and dry. Like, I feel like so many people seat of worse and have this idea of what it's supposed to look like and what you're supposed to do. And every situation is different. No situation is the same. And you are so mentally and emotionally, some physically wrapped up with each other. And when you have children that are involved, that's a natural tie to that person, that it's hard to get away from that. And I don't know, there's just something about, I was not, I wanted to be divorced,

but I didn't want to not be married. Does that make sense? Like, it's like, for me, I wanted my cake and eat it too. Like, I wanted to be divorced, but I wanted a family. It was very weird. It was like, I knew it didn't work, but I want whatever will work, I want that. I had also identified that. Like, this is not going to work.

It's never going to work. Even if we are co-parenting and getting along so well and everything feels so much better than what it did at one point, I started walking through that journey of maybe we just needed a break. Like maybe that's what we needed. And you just need to grow up a little bit. We just need to go our separate ways for a little while.

But yeah, no. And now I've realized like, okay, wow. He's definitely better off in the lane that he's maintaining. And I'm definitely better off in the one that I'm in. I have never obviously been married to Chris, but Luxus six and just recently started saying that he wishes that me and his dad were together.

So he doesn't have to switch houses. And I find that really interesting because, I mean, Chris stayed with me for long periods of time and at the time I would have considered it living with me for periods of time. Now when I look back and I look at the big picture, he never really lived with me. Like he never accepted mail at my house.

He would just stay for a long period of time. So Lux doesn't really know what that's like, and so I don't know where that's coming from for him. It's not like he's missing something. Like it's not like he had it, and then now he misses it. It's something that he never really experienced, and if he did, he never really remembered it. Well, you have to consider that he is experiencing a more nuclear looking family when he's going with Chris and then he's at home with you. And a lot of what?

He sees the other, his family now together. So that could be where that's coming from. So I think that that's just like a natural thing. And it's so sad. I always say kids are just the collateral damage in a situation when you need to make better decisions and need to be more mindful whenever we're signing our self-up for stuff that kids are being affected.

Yeah, 100%. Just back on that situation before we move on, something that my therapist told me not too long ago is you should have boundaries with everything in your life and boundaries don't happen overnight. It is a process and you have to learn to set a boundary and if it's important to you to maintain it and you have to be consistent. and you have to be consistent. And that's hard and it's work. And if you go back on the boundary even one time, people will think that that's like the normal.

They'll just go off, they'll operate off of that. Well, because they know that you're willing to bend at that point. So if you are willing to bend, if it is a boundary and it's a deal breaker to you, those shouldn't be things that you're bending on ever. It's a good point. you, those shouldn't be things that you're bending on ever. Just respect someone wherever they're at

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That's 50% off your first month at kiwicio.com promo code coffee. I want to give one last follow up. I don't think I need to give anymore follow ups after this, but last time I let you guys know about pharmacies or whatever and whatever, I caught you up on that. Well, a pharmacist, a specific pharmacist, reached out. Wait, a pharmacist, listens to us? That's what I said.

Lindsay, get out of my head. I was literally like a person who went to med school listens to coffee, kind of, those podcasts. Like, what in the hell? I don't deserve professionals listening to me. Like, that's just not like, I don't think that that's anyway. And she said that she's a pharmacist. And the reason why they don't have more than one pharmacist

is because there's a huge shortage. So where there used to be two to three pharmacists in the CVS's or other pharmacies, that's why we're not getting, you know, that's why they had to take do the break thing and then they only have one pharmacist that's overworked, that's doing 16 hours, blah blah blah blah. So I was like, oh wow, like that makes sense. So there used to be two or three, and now there's a huge shortage. So, just wanted to update you on that. I wonder why, and this is probably gonna cause another follow-up when I ask this question. I wonder why there is a shortage in... People don't have money to go to med school, it's my guess, that's my guess.

Okay. I actually, one of my childhood best friends, my first boyfriend, John, his sister is a pharmacist, right? And I know, made her, and then one of my other childhood friends are a pharmacist, but I transferred throughout four different school districts growing up, and only two out of all of everyone I know is a pharmacist. So think about that.

That's just crazy. I wouldn't ever think of like a shortage and a pharmacist, you know, like I would never, it's just like people go to med school and then they just become pharmacists. I don't know, do they go to med school or is it? Yeah. Is that what it is? They're in school for like, fucking a hundred years. Like, eight years.

I don't know, something crazy. Listen, I'm like, if you go to school that long and you were that dedicated, you earn every dollar that you make. Yeah, but you also should not be overworked. I just don't, that's just my guess. I don't really know, like, let me Google it. Maybe it'll come up on Google like why there's a shortage.

But my guess is people, like, I told my kids, and maybe I'm gonna get backlash for this, but I literally told them, I said, listen, if you're not going to school, like if you're not going to college to be a doctor, a lawyer, a nurse, something where you need a degree, I said, maybe reconsider because the loans and the cost of college tuition these days, kids are gonna be living at home until they're 30 years old, so because of the cost of living and inflation.

So I just don't know like okay why so for me I have to disagree with you on this for a couple of reasons and hold on, before you say that it says the reason why there's a pharmacist shortage it says rising workloads, rising burnout, growing workloads, and resulting stresses on pharmacists have led to well-documented burnout and subsequent staffing shortages. And then I guess it's not just at CVS, it's also at Walgreens. Somebody else did this and it said, according to the study, pharmacists reporting high workload environments came from chain, 91% and mass merchandise are 88%

pharmacy settings. So also contributing to the problem is wage growth for pharmacists, which fell 5% last year after adjusting for inflation. And that's reported from the New York Times. Oh wow. But yeah, go back to what you were saying, how you disagree about my college situation. I mean, to each their own, right? Like if that's how you wanna raise your kids, not gonna judge anybody for what they're doing in their household and what they're imprinting on their kids. For me, I was a first generation college student.

Same. So that was very, very important to me. And so because I did start that, I want to make sure that my child does that. It's a desire. It's like we all have desires for our kids that might not be their desires. And if he came to me and said, Mom,

I really want to do this and I don't see myself going to college. Of course, I'm going to entertain that conversation because that would be his desires and I shouldn't be worried about mine over his. But at the same time, I feel like you learned so much through college outside of just the education aspect that I think is so important in life,

just going to class and having to study for tests and not just living on your own. That's the first time you're gonna probably live on your own before you get like an actual apartment and learning to like manage a schedule and have to be certain places at certain times. Yeah. All of those things I think are so important and I don't think you have to go to college to learn some of those things. That's not what I'm saying, but that is where I did learn those things.

No, 100%. And that's the struggle that I have. I mean, I say that I don't think they should go to college in terms of the money aspect. But in terms of learning how to do some of the things that you just described. And I never got the Fulblanc College experience, because I already had children.

But Isaac doesn't necessarily, I mean, I don't know, it's hard because when I was his age, I wasn't even thinking about college, but he's in eighth grade this year. I wasn't even thinking about college until literally my sophomore and junior year. So I get where he's coming from. I think he has a lot of people in his ear.

You know, he has his grandma, his dad. He entertained, he really wanted to be a lawyer at one point. And he came to me and he's like, my dad and my grandma told me that that doesn't even suit me and that I shouldn't do that because it's a lot of work and I would take work home with me after work. And I was just like, yeah, they're right. But also if you wanna do that,

then you shouldn't let people sway your, I was so, like I could not even tell you the anger that I felt because I was like, that's one of the things that I feel like he's very good at arguing in debates. And I feel like he's a very good writer. So that would suit him. It just in terms of like money and inflation and like where we're at in these times. I can't recommend college if that's not something they could do if they want to do. But I just... It's hard because it's something they could do if they want to do.

But I just, it's hard because it's like, it's a double edged sword. It's kind of like the commitment thing that we've talked about a hundred times. It's like, do you teach them commitment and, you know, being a team player in all these things, or do we teach them that they don't ever have to stay in something that they don't want to do? There's just like a double edged sword, and I can't know. I say that I would agree with Isaac not going to college, but deep down inside I want him to go. I want him to go because I feel like, for selfish reasons, honestly. If I'm the completely transparent,

it's for selfish reasons because I was a teen mom and I, you know, I made my way and got myself through college and so I would feel like less of a mom if my son that I had as a teen didn't go to college. I would feel like I did something wrong, I didn't do something good enough. So for selfish reasons, I wanted to go. It's just like a melting pot of things and feelings on the college situation. I think with college too that something that I learned was balancing my social life as an adult still being an older

sister, which I definitely failed at because my social life and my academics were my priorities at that time. And I still had siblings at home and I went to school within 45 minutes of home and like I hardly ever went home. And so I think learning to like balance different aspects of your life socially, academically which would equate to like a job. And then also like your family life, all of that stuff is just like so important and life. Back to the commitment thing. I'm going to agree with you on that. There needs to be conversations with kids. If you're not going to fully commit to doing this, or if you're going to be on a four-year plan, or you're on that five-year plan, they need to be committed to that when they sign up to go to college. It is so expensive to send your kids to school or whatever loans

they're having to take out to go to school. If you're not going to get the degree and you're not going to see it through, don't start it. I just graduated with so many people who aren't doing what they went to school for. They're not even in their career field, let alone anything that, you know, some of the people that I would graduated from college with the same year and everything are not in any type of field that you need a degree. I don't want to call anybody out by name because I don't think that's my place, but you know, two people specifically that I'm thinking of there in blue collar fields that didn't need a degree whatsoever. And now they got to pay student loans. And who knows what the hell the price of college will be whenever our kids get to get to that time period. So funny that you brought this up because while I think I was having a conversation with one of my girlfriends

that has kids that are like leaving high school and a couple of kids in college. And she said that they need to be certain about what they wanna do when they start school. No, but you can't. You're 18 years old, sometimes 17, 18, 19. You cannot be certain. Like I changed, no, no, I don't agree.

She made it tell you what my major was when I started school. Yeah. I was a social work major. I also was briefly changed my major to when I started school. Yeah. I was a social work major. I also was briefly changed my major to social work, briefly. And absolutely loved those classes, but here's the thing. Once I got into that, I realized how much

that was going to emotionally take for me that I did not have the capacity to give to that, that I was doing myself and that field of disservice. Yeah. That I was like, you know what, I can't do this because emotionally I'm going to take home every single thing that I am doing and work that I will never be able to escape from it.

So I completely shifted gears and got my business degree. Have a minor in hospitality. And I think you do use your degree. I think I do too. People will beg to differ, but I also agree. I think the other part of what you just said too is like the people, the very few people who go into school and they are decided and they 100% know what they

want to do. A lot of them get into the field and realize that that income for that specific field is never going to touch those student loans that they have to have gotten that degree in the first place if that makes sense. So like I said, unless you're a doctor, lawyer, nurse, I'm sure there's other ones, but those are the ones that I think I've off the top of my head. You're not going to make the income to pay off those loans in a timely manner and things like that. And it just worries me because you know, my kids, my kids, how they're set financial, they're financially, they're financially,

financially sound and set for the future, right? Like they'll have money for school if that's what they want to do. My biggest fear is that one of them or all of them or some of them go to college, they spend all of their funds on coffee. Yeah. And then they're not making what they thought or what they anticipated because times are, I mean, the inflation and all of that today is insane. And I just sent Kristen a video of that yesterday like the actual numbers and percentages and the rises and things like that's like the silent oppression.

I don't understand how we as parents should could be pushing college and the expenses of college on our kids in the climate that we live in today. Oh the climate that we live in today is honestly climate that we live in today. Oh, the climate that we live in today is honestly terrifying, and I truly hope that it does not get worse. Stamps.com has been helping businesses like your safe time and money for 25 years, and it can help you get ready for the holiday ramp up. I know it's back to school right now,

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Chick-fil-A sandwich was coming out and I was like, okay, I love when like new shit comes out at Chick-fil-A It is going to make me sick as a dog, but it's not gonna stop me from getting that line. No, yeah, we have to at least try it so Allegedly chick filet has a new item coming out. I am like Christians on the phone with me the one day and the woman in the drive through at Chick-fil-A was like, number two spicy sandwich and I'm like, yes, you already know and I'm laughing because she knew exactly what my order was. But so they're announcing this new spicy sandwich, but it's like a sweet and spicy sandwich and a seasonal milkshake. So I love that idea and

it's starting August 28th. Customers can try out the honey pepper, pimento chicken sandwich. Okay, I love pimento cheese. And wait, how it is? It's cheese. It's, yeah, it's pimento cheese. But how do you say it? Pimento. I say pimento.

First of all, I've never heard that word in my life. So I just was reading what was on the article that I read on. Wait, you never had a pimento cheese sandwich? I've never even heard of Pimento. I literally saw it on Yahoo News, and I was like, oh my God, I have to tell Lindsay about it. I never had a... No, no, no, no, honey.

Like, there is this brand of Pimento cheese that like my great-grandmother used to get called Roots. And I used to think that that was like the it Pimento cheese. It's not. There the it pimento cheese. It's not. There is another pimento cheese that you can get. Pretty sure it's like at Costco's nationwide. I just sound like a Costco's ad right now. It's called Palmetto Pimento Cheese. It's a spicy jalapeno pimento cheese.

It is so good. And there's a couple of ways that you can make a pomegranatee sandwich. We always toast ours. It's always like a toasted situation. Pomegranatee's toast is also really good. It's basically like the same thing. But it's just...

Yep, that's it. That's like the old-timey Pomegranatee's roots. We always toast it. You put... You have to get like good fresh bread, and it needs to be white bread. We always grew up on bunny bread. It's like a yellow package low. Okay. They have like an old-fashioned kind. It's a little bit of thicker edge. You put, you slap that shit with mayo, like cover and smother that shit. And then you put your pimento cheese on there. And then you put them on top of each other, like a sandwich, and you put it in the oven on broil. And it gets toasted and it gets like

ooey and gooey. And it's just like dripping. and it's like just think of like an ad of like biting into a sandwich and it's just like dripping all down your fingers. So. It's probably so good. It's so good. I now as an adult, sometimes we'll do a pimento cheese toast and do like the same concept,

but it's just like open. So it's just on one side, does that make sense? Yes. So good. Like anybody who has not had this, but Chick-fil-A is about the recipe so that people can try this. Okay, well I will. Chick-fil-A is foul because someone posted yesterday on Facebook. I don't even fucking know this person, but I'm gonna just believe what they were saying. That you know those little like condiment containers,

they're like the clear-to to go condiment containers. Yeah. Okay, this lady claims that it's a tiny little condiment container that you can get aside of the Pimenta Gs at Chick-fil-A, and it's $1.75. You're like, I can buy a whole real container at the grocery store for $1.75. I'm like, I'll just go buy roofs. I'm gonna put a bucket in there. I just looked at it's at Publix, it's at all kinds, I looked it up so I can link it for $1.75. I'm like, I'll just go buy Ruth's. I call her a bucket bag.

I just looked at it's that public. It's at all kinds. I looked it up so I can link it for our listeners. And there's no reason why anyone should pay $1.75 for those little teeny tiny. Like this one at publics is, doesn't have the price listed. I would imagine it's probably not much more than that.

Yeah, so I mean, when we're talking about, I mean, we're obviously just like savvy spenders. That's what everybody's gathering from this episode. I have not tried the sandwich yet because I haven't had a day that I want to be sick. So on that day that I feel like it's okay to be sick and I'm gonna be home all day, then that's the day I'll go and get it. And I'll get back to the guys. So I'll keep you posted. I also needed to tell you,

there's two things I wanted to share. One, Atlanta is like a bigger, hotter area than Dover Delaware, right? So, when you go places, do you do most places ask for things to be tipped in cash? Like if you get your nails done or your hair done, do they offer like a Venmo situation or do they ask for cash? I know at my nails salon, it says like cash tips are appreciated like on a sign, but they'll

still accept cash tips on a credit card. Like whenever you pay, you just add the tip to it. Right. And I never carry cash on me, because I lose cash. Yeah. So, I'm missing. It's never a cash, like I never have cash.

Like I have Venmo and a credit card. I never carry cash. If I do, it's like if I'm going to the ATM for whatever reason to deposit like a paper check that I get, which I mainly have direct deposit. So it's not very often that I'm doing that. I'll take out cash, but like again, very few and far between. So I go to this, I started going to this new nail place like about three months ago. No, I'm lying. It's probably like a month and a half ago. And they don't accept cash. Sorry, they don't accept tips on your card at all.

So and I get it. The service fees are crazy, but like, I don't know if businesses realize that they're allowed to put that on the customer. So like, if I want to tip in catch, like, and I want to run my card, just I'll pay the fucking service fees. Like, it's fine. I don't even care at this point, just because I don't carry cash. So anyway, I go to pay for my nails and he was like, we don't accept cash for tipping. You mean they don't accept card for tipping? Yes, you're right.

They don't accept, yes. So I'm like, oh, do you have like Venmo? Because my last nail lady at the other nail place, she would take Venmo and same for my hair, like my eyebrows, whatever will go through Venmo. No, it's just cash only. So I don't have I have a debit card but I don't know the pins because I ever since I was approved for credit cards I get points for everything and then I pay with my debit account like my checking account. Right. Like I'll pay my credit card account right away. So I don't even know the pins for the debit card that I have. Okay. So I'm going all over

town trying to get cash back because my Chase Sapphire, I can get, I can get cash back. Not a guess you may sapphire. Period. It's for, got it for travel rewards. So I'm like perfect. I'll just, it's fine. I'll go to the store and get cash back. Well, the gas station I go to doesn't offer cash back. And then I go to the grocery store and it's like, oh no, we can't do that on a credit card. But like, I've literally gone places and gotten cashback on my Chase Sapphire before. So I'm embarrassed at this point

because now I have to go, because they, what they said, well, if you're gonna go get cash, can you pay for the whole thing in cash? Can you just not run your card at all? And I'm like, okay, but I can't, I can't get cashback. So now I go back to the nail salon and I'm like, hey, but I can't, I can't get cash back. So I go back to the nail salon and I'm like, hey, like, my debit card's not working and I can't get you cash, so I can't even tip, I can't tip at all. So I'm paying for my just the nail service on my card.

And then I call Elijah and I'm like, please bring me cash because I'm not going to leave these people high and dry without a tip because now I'm now I'm embarrassed and I never want to show my face again. So, I'm like, please just bring me cash. So he brings cash to the nail salon. And I'm just embarrassed at this point because I'm like, is it not just like a whole collective, like universal, like unwritten rule that like we're tipping on them though? I mean, I think it should be a universal rule because I think it just makes it easier for everyone. And also, I'd like to know where my money goes. So like with cash, I forget like what I would spend it on.

Like unless you have a notebook or like something that you're writing down every single spend that you have with cash, it just isn't a thing. Like I'm not my grandparents and I'm not getting in my car and getting out my handy-dandy notebook and writing down that I just spent $20 on some bullshit that I didn't need. That I truly don't want a record of why I spent that $20. Well, so now I'm just like, well, I don't know that, so I don't know the pen to my debit card, right? So, Chris, you can have your bank send you the pen

in the mail. The problem is that I throw out all junk mail. Like, I am the worst at getting mail. Like, Christmas will be like your debit card came and I'm like, no, it didn't because it comes in the unmarked, it doesn't say a bank of America or whatever it is. So, like, I just throw it out.

Well, if I get the pen in the mail, it's not going to say Bank of America, and I'm going to end up throwing it out. So like I just don't know. So now I'm just going to try to just Now I know what the exact cost is for my nails and my toes. I'm going to try to go get that amount of cash I'll either cash app or Venmo it to Elijah so Elijah can give me the cash But like the other thing is frustrating too because because this is just a first world kale problem. This isn't anybody else's concern, but ever since I got credit cards, I want the points on everything.

So I don't want to spend cash. I want to use my credit card, so I get the points. Yeah, I don't even care if it's getting points for $20. I want the points, because I'm spending my hard-earned or money I need to get something in return. Like I need something. So I literally even asked, because I have to get a fence around the pool,

because right now the fence is temporary. And I even was like, Alisha, can you ask him does he accept MX? Because like I want to make sure that I'm getting the points. I'm not gonna write you a check for how much the fence is. I'm gonna spend it on my card so I get the point. Yeah. So I'm just like very weird about it

and I just first world kale problems, but I need to share that with you. And life, we all live for rewards. Like no matter if it is credit card rewards, if it's, it does not matter. Like I will do anything for a reward. Like I am very reward driven. Speaking of the throwing away John Camille,

got a sketchy call from Kristen, probably two months ago. Okay. And she's like, your lender wants to know if you're gonna deposit like the money you got back from overpaying your escrow. Like the fuck are you talking about? And she's like, they sent you a text.

I'm like, oh yeah, that's in the trash. Like, because if it doesn't look like something important, I'm throwing it out. And because I pay all of my stuff electronically, sometimes I will still get the paper statement for whatever reason. And I see what it is. And if it's like Wells Fargo, I'm like, I don't owe shit to Wells Fargo because it's on auto draft.

So I do the same thing. Throw it away. Yeah. Like if I get something that's like from my health insurance, it's like, I know I pay that electronically. So whatever you're sending me, I don't need same thing from my banks. I don't need this thing for my banks. Um, I don't need this because I everything is electronic. But then it's like, Kristen's like, Oh, did you get whatever? And I'm like, um, what's the next thing that you need to

tell me? Because I have something that I need to tell you that truly has caused me severe anxiety. Okay. Well, this has caused me severe anxiety. So, you know, I was doing my little, I do occasional scrolls on the news and an elementary school teacher. You've probably seen it by now because aside from the news, it's also on TikTok. On the New York Post, it was what was where I saw it. The elementary school teacher was drunk at school and she blows two times the legal limit. And it's back to school. So Jackson's been in school for a couple of weeks now.

My kids are going back to school next week. Like what would you fucking do if Jackson's elementary school? Because I don't know, Jackson's in fourth grade or fifth grade. He's in fourth grade. So Lincoln's going to fourth grade. That's still technically elementary school. What the fuck would you do if it was his teacher? Because I think I would probably go to jail

if I'm being honest. My question is, is was she, because I did see this, I couldn't help, it's truly not funny, but like the look on her face and the video from the body cam where she was getting breathalized and just the lack of concern on her part and the face looking like this.

First of all, no. How did she get that way? Like, did she come to school? They asked her and they, so they were asking her and she was like, I didn't drink. I had some meds to help me sleep last night and then after they breated her lies to her because she said she didn't drink. She wasn't drinking at all. And then when they got to

breathed her, she said that she drank on the way to school, which now you are incriminating yourself by saying that you were drinking and driving. So it's not like you just got a ride to school and you had been drinking, you drove drunk or you were drinking and driving, which are both crimes. So I was really upset and I gave me anxiety about that because I don't know how many times that goes on without people catching on.

Like do people pour themselves a stiff one in the morning and then go to work? Like I just am concerned. Can you imagine just like the thoughts of a teacher, your kids going to school and they've just like poured themselves a belly or like a bloody mirror like before school and then they've gone to work like while I understand why you might feel like you need that,

not the time in the place on Monday through Friday when you are responsible for other people's children. I just like, and luckily for the kids, maybe the kids didn't understand because they were probably really young. So she denied that she had been drinking on the job, but she did admit that she had a half a box of wine, the previous night, and that she continued until 3 a.m. Well, ma'am, that's not the previous night, that's today. And then she said she'd drink on the way to school. And like, listen, I'm not babysitting anybody, but like, the fuck, like, why are you up at 3am when you were responsible for my child tomorrow? Or like today? Well, and she starts crying and she's like, I want this job, I want to work here. Well, now you should be so embarrassed. You don't want to show your face.

Because, and I don't know if I got more upset and defensive, like, for the kids because I am the child of an addict and alcoholic. So like, I have less empathy for that. But, you know, my mom would go to work, fucked up. And it would just fucking enraged me. And so I also feel like when you're're and she wasn't in charge of children. When you're in charge of children, there's fire drills, there's bomb threats, there's, you know, we're out here putting doors on our schools that are public proof and you're out here fucked up

and you don't, you probably wouldn't know where one of your, where your students are in the middle of a, you know, a drill or something. that's a huge problem. Or a huge problem. Oh, there's a huge problem. What if there's special needs kids in your classroom and you don't have a spec in a teacher? Yeah, no. No, I can't. While I want to have sympathy for this.

No, I can't. I don't. I can't. Clearly, it's a problem that goes beyond just drinking one time. You're clearly an alcoholic. And I just, I need help. Yeah. Would love to know what other people think about this.

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Yes, like we can't even figure out the actual fucking highway. That scares me because allegedly it's safer being in a plane than on the road because there are less planes and things in the sky. So like the last thing that I ever want to do is like being a sky car, a sky crash. Um, so like that feels that sounds weird. Okay, but again, we haven't even learned how to maintain a lane on the highway. Like, why are we now doing flying cars? So it says a flying car prototype just got an airworthiness certificate from the FAA. Federal Aviation Administration has certified testing a vehicle that a California startup

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with the first delivery to be projected at the end of 2025. So like, that's not that far in the future. Is Elon must find this? Who's who? What car is this? No, I think it's called A-L-E-F. Or it's like A-L-E-F. And I watched this whole interview about this

and they were talking about how excited they were to receive this certification, that it was gonna be a better move and push for environmentally friendly and faster commute, and that it's gonna save companies. Immigraably friendly, where? Well, I guess because it's considered electric. Do you have to have additional certifications

to fly this thing because last time I checked just because you can drive doesn't mean you can fly. Okay, so my thoughts on this, like you have to have like different class type licenses to drive like a 18-wheeler or like a motorcycle or whatever, like wouldn't they have to like go that whole route through the different states that are going to allow for this to have a different type of driving certification to be able to do this? Like I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure like a road test

is not gonna qualify you to be able to put a car in the air. Also, it sounds like the only people that will be able to afford this are people that live in LA, that are in Hollywood, that are movies, actors, doctors, lawyers, like people that are not us. So that's going to be a traffic jam in the sky. If I think about LA and all the celebrities trying to get from point A to point B, doctors, even there, I just don't know how I feel about that.

Okay, but then it also stated, the other concern for me is if we're gonna have like these vehicles on the road, they're dubbing it as a low speed vehicle. So it's not gonna be able to go faster than 25 miles per hour on a paved road. So wouldn't that, how are they gonna get approved from like the highway traffic safety

to be going 25 miles per hour? How are they gonna get approved when you're saying this would be better and better to get from point A to point B, not going 25 miles an hour, it's not. Like I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure on Georgia highways, there's like minimum speed of 45 miles per hour. So you're immediately not going on an actual highway.

And I'm pretty sure some golf carts go faster than 25 miles per hour. Where's Phil of the future? Was this on a show somewhere? Because this sounds crazy. If this is our future, like I don't wanna be in it. I have no interest in that. Can you just imagine, can you just imagine

just like driving down the highway and all of a sudden you look up and there's a fucking car in there? Just going right over you. No, like that's not a thing. I'm not doing that. I'm not being a part of that. I'm living in no state that has that. I'm not. Delaware is not going to pick that up anytime soon. So I'm not worried.

On that note, foul play. Fowl play. Right. Back in the mid 2000s. Wow, this episode came real full circle right here. Okay. Back in the mid 2000s, my mom was recently divorced. She attended one of those pure romance parties for her good friend. Oh my god. Let's call her Kay with a couple of her work friends. My mom, along with her friends, ordered some items from the catalog, and when you order it, can take about two weeks for the items to come in. When the items came in, Kay called my mom and asked if she could pick up all the items and deliver them to her friends at work one night. My mom was a purse lady, she always had a huge bag. Okay, is this Susie because Susie Q, the sounds a lot like Susie Q.

Sounds like Mary Poppins to me. She picked up the items from Kay and planned on giving them to her friends on the next night shift at work. The following day, she had jury duty down at the local courthouse and brought the same bag with her, completely forgetting all the dirty gifts which ranged from Loub to sex stories. She went through security and they stopped her and made her take everything out and lay it on the table. They had to feel down the dildos and open the Loub boxes. My mom said she's never been so embarrassed in her life. They said she was good to go. She threw everything back in her bag and she went she and the cop both a footed eye contact

And my mom basically ran down the hall to do her jury duty. Ladies always check your purse This is why I don't carry a purse I don't I sometimes do it depends what where I'm going, but I haven't lately and I just feel like that is something That would happen to me That would very would happen to me. That would very much happen to me. Okay, I remember these pure romance parties back in the day, but I thought they were just songs. Like I had no idea, because I didn't know about like dildos and lube and stuff. So I was just like, oh, they're going to get like, smell good candles and like, yeah, that's

exactly what I thought it was. First of all, if you're going to jury duty, I'm not taking a purse. Like when I go to court, I specifically take my phone and it has my credit cards on the back and that- They don't even let them in the court house anymore. And superior court. They do? Not in the federal building. Unfortunately,

when I go to family court, they don't even let you bring your phone in. Oh, they don't? No. So you'll be sitting there. They'll be sitting there all day with no phone. Oh, no. Then that's why I'm going to avoid court altogether. Unless you're in a prison. Because I need, I need my phone. I know I should be an attorney, honestly. You should. Love that, love that life. As far as people with purses, I need to know if you are the type of person that carries everything that you can fit in your bag

or you the type of person that does not carry a purse or are you like me, like a hybrid. If you carry a purse, it has like a beauty blender, lip liner and gloss and your phone. Or you just don't carry a purse at all because I'm like the combo of those two. Those are just such random things. Why is that random?

It's like if you need to touch up, good to go. You only need your phone. Like what else would you need? But I feel like a lot of people are these big purse people. Yeah, I've definitely got like my never folds probably my worst purchase I've ever had just because my never full I just would just keep putting stuff in it. Like, it was truly never full and then it would hurt and the straps are so skinny and it would just hurt. God, I remember not too long ago when Jackson, I mean, it was long ago.

But like, I don't want it to be long ago. When he was wearing like diapers and shit and like all this stuff that you have to carry to like entertain a child, that was like my never full days. Now I don't carry it anymore. I like use it for like an overnight bag more so. Yeah, yeah.

Because it's so big and it truly is never full. I just, I can't do all the per things and I can honestly tell you in this situation if I went through a security scanner to go into jury duty I unfortunately would possibly have to risk being held in contempt for being late for jury duty because I am absolutely not when I start getting that stuff out of my bag. I'm immediately walking back out of the courthouse and taking all that shit back to my car and I'm not putting it on the security scanner. Yeah, at that point, just don't even bring one. Because I gave them a conversation to have all day about me.

Okay, the next foul play. When I was in high school, my first job was at an assisted living center. This wasn't any nursing home. It was a bouchy community of retired folks where they had their own apartments or condos, but had a community room, a community dining room where I waitressed. So there was this man who lived there who was some kind of muscular disorder and it made it hard for him to move freely. He had special silverware that made it easier to grip and he used a walker and a wheelchair. His cognitive abilities were also seriously declining. When we were the teenagers working at this place found out about this man, extra curricular activities, we were like that guy. So this man had a lady friend who would come visit him once a week. She was

a woman probably in her 50s. The nursingfing nursing staff told us that they once walked into the room and called this woman full riding this man. That's where their whole visits, that's what their whole visits were about. She would come by do all the work in PSL. No one knows if she was hired to do this or if she was just a kind soul doing the Lord's work by letting this man bust a nut. All I know is after that, I couldn't look at him the same way again. Not to imagine. I... Not the image I needed in my head ever. There was a lot more humping going on than you would ever think. It was just the most shocking story I'd heard in my time there. Senior citizens need love too, Dammit. Don't be thinking they aren't slaying in a bank. No. No, because Kaden just started working

at something like this too, which is not at least son. And I was like, if anyone ever confesses to you on like their deathbed that they killed someone, like I need to know, but like also this, like, tell us everything. Like, I know who's fucking who and like, what if there's somebody's wife is there and they're cheating on their wife in the assistant living home,

like what is going on? Kaden is now our inside source of what we have been wanting to cover. No, we wanted to send him this. I have to send him the story right now. What we have been wanting to cover for so long, like I want to go undercover in an assisted living and just gather information

for a coffee combo is podcast. No, we have to. We need to just know what is going on in these assisted living programs. But like, what's this woman thinking? Like in her 50s, just coming in, riding dick and leaving. I just don't like what happened to her.

She's not here doing the Lord's work. No, honey, that's the devil's work. Like that is not from the Lord. I slaying in and banging on that note. I'm actually gonna go and get my nails done. And now you have made me self-conscious that I just go to the bank to get cash. So good cash.

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