Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Farts, Feelings & First Sleepovers

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

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This episode of Coffee Convo's podcast is brought to you by booking.com. Here's the thing. Most vacation rental hosts don't even realize they can list their properties on booking.com. And if you're not on the platform, your rental is basically invisible to millions of booking.com travelers worldwide. After all, they can't book what they can't see, right? Don't miss out on consistent bookings and global reach. Head over to booking.com and start your listing today. Get seen. Get booked on booking.com. Hey, y'all, it's Lindsay. I just wanted to hop on here really quick before the episode starts and let you guys know that this was recorded prior to any recent events. So if you're listening and feel like something isn't being addressed, that's simply because of the timing. I'm going to be taking the time that I need to process some of these things and handle it in the right way. And I really appreciate you guys giving me that space. And I just appreciate your love and support more than you know. It truly means everything to me. hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is coffee convos with kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your fields, kale. That does

not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery bakery around here. Here's kale and Lindsay. Now we're rolling. We're on the air. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Convo's podcast. Guess what? I'm having my first sleepover with kale. We are having, before we get into what I was just going to show, Lindsay, I'm sleeping over with Lindsay. We're having an adult girl sleepover.

I honestly cannot wait. No boys allowed. Lindsay and I have never had a sleepover because we've never even shared a hotel room. Never. It's just like not a, it's not a thing that we do. Well, to be fair, Alessandra and I say this all the time. Like, I'm 34 years old. Like, I'm not doing your shit.

Like, I'm not sleeping in a bathtub. I'm not sleeping on the couch. I'm not, like, I'm too old to be. doing that. And I didn't even sleep over when I was like in high school or actually I was telling somebody the other day. I was talking to a dad and he has high school kids and he was like my kids are just like always out at sleepovers and whatever. And I said sleepovers where? He's like their friend's house. And I'm like, oh, I never had a sleep over. Like I never did that my whole life. Like we weren't allowed. Meanwhile, all I did was sleep over everybody else's house. He was like,

I don't even know where I lived. No. Who's Susie? Susie who? Susie who. Susie's house? Wait, I have a bone to pick with you, an actual bone. So I text Kail yesterday at the airport. 6.25 p.m.

I think I have that disease at 6.43 left me hanging for like a while. Okay, to be fair, that was the same time that Rebecca texted me. Elliot had my phone because he was trying to beat a level of a game that I play. Well, when someone's texting you, I think I have that disease. wouldn't that be like a sign for Elliot to be like, oh, mom, Lindsay has a disease. Here's your phone. I don't have text preview on. Oh.

And it was probably on D&D if I had to guess because he probably didn't get the little drop down. Kale would freak out because everybody knows my phone password. Ex-husband, Jackson, everybody knows Hunter. To get into my camera roll, I think you do too. Oh, no, my camera roll is fine. But my text, if you don't have my face, you can't read a text. text. So I said, Kail says, what disease?

I said, you know the one where you hate people eating apples or like crunchy stuff? And she goes, no, I've never heard of that, Lindsay. I said, well, it's some kind of disease asked someone because it's called something specific and I have it. Are you ready for the next text? Is the class ready for the next text that I received? Lissa, are you listening? Hi, Kail. And all caps, I'm landing.

A fart just escaped me in the shower in front of Ike. What do I do? Oh, I'll do you one better. Where's my phone? She sends an audio message whispering. Whispering. She's like, shut. I'll play it.

I texted you first and then you because you didn't answer and you didn't answer. Well, you didn't answer me about my disease. So I had to send them a voice note because nobody's answering me because I was in the shower. It almost was like a wet one, like a wet fart. A shirt. It wasn't, yeah, almost like a queefy fart. A shirt. No, it was because of the water.

It wasn't because it was actually a wet fart. Like I wasn't about to shit myself. Like, so this is a voice note. It's 22 seconds long. Okay. You guys, if you can't hear me. Went down. If you guys could understand.

Can you set the scene? Yeah. I'm going to set the scene. So we're, first of all, first day, no kids, right? Like, we're excited. We have read and took a nap and do all the things. I'm like, I'm going to take a hot girl shower. I need to like shave everything, wash my hair, do the whole nine. And he gets done in the shower before me. So he steps out and the door is open and he's talking to me. And it just slipped out. Like it literally just. But like, what did it sound like? Give us like. I farted. And he go, wait, I go, excuse me. I farted. Wait, what did the fart sound like, though? It was like a wet one. We'll do it. I don't know if I can't. I wish he was here for the conversation.

I can't. It was, I don't know how to describe it because it was a wet one. Was it like, was it like that? No, it was like wet. Like if you were about to have diarrhea, but it wasn't that, it was the water from the shower in my butt crack. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And so I go, excuse me, I just farted.

And he goes, oh, wow. Oh my God. And I'm like, that's all you had to do was say, it's okay, don't worry about it, but you go, oh, oh, my God, okay. Like, why did you do that? Why did you say? He was responding to that. Yeah, why would you just not say anything? Because I've never farted.

We've been together a year, and I never farted around him. But I was mortified. And then the breakup thing is crazy. Oh, I'm sorry. I just farted. He said, oh, excuse me, I just farted and hit the look on his face and, like, oh, my God. And I'm like, why did you react like that? Like, I'm so embarrassed.

Get out. Get out. Get out. But, like, I was so embarrassed. This is what I said. So, mind you, I am still halfway in the air, but like enough to get service, right? So in all caps, a fart just escaped me in the shower in front of Ike. What do I do?

Escape me as Tracy. I just said, I didn't feel it coming. It was just so spontaneous. And I'm like, why did that happen to me? As if I'm not going through enough? I said, excuse me, this is what I wake up to when I land in Baltimore. I'm going home immediately. Like, I don't know what's crazier.

Then she said that she's going to break up with Ike or I'm about to board another flight to go home because of a fart. So I start screaming for Elliot Because I'm like, get him out of the bathroom And so I texted him Remember when you trail shit like in front of Elijah? Yeah I'm so thankful that hasn't happened in front of Ike. Oh my God.

Because Ike is the type to like be grossed out, you know what I mean? So I text him and I say In 745 and I'm like, I have to break up with Ike Because a fart accidentally slipped out in the shower And I'm mortified I was screaming for you to come down. because I don't know what to do. And he said, I thought I heard you yelling.

And I said, and you didn't help me? And he goes, because when I got to the stairs, everything seemed fine. I said, it's not fine. I farted. And he said, oh, my God, you're disgusting. Now no man is going to want you. Instead of breaking up with him, you're going to have to keep him locked up in the house and never let him leave. I just love that you literally texted six people.

Because nobody was responding. And it was emergency. By the way, I responded in two minutes, I think. I don't even think it was too long for than two minutes. Really? I think we were, Gaila and I responded to this. I was so, like, somebody to tell me this is normal.

That's insane. The fact that she was mass texting while farting, like, is crazy. Nobody was answering her. I think because I was so worked up about, like, his reaction. I was just like, get out. And I close the door because I'm so embarrassed. So now I'm worked up. And now I have to figure out, like, where do I?

go from here. What do I do? Like, how do I recover from this? And like moving forward, do I just continue to fart in front of it? Yes. It's like once the fart is out there, it's like free reign to continue farting. And I'm like, oh, okay, I bet. I just don't know if it could be like a 20.

Actually, I don't think that I've ever farted. I never farted in front of Will. Never in front of. Actually, I don't think I don't think. I've ever farted in front of anybody. Probably in my sleep if I farted. I also am not like a super gassy person, surprisingly. Like I just don't regularly.

Yeah, like I'll shit myself, but I don't fart. It's kind of weird. And so then I'm like, what do I do? Like, what do I do now? Well, this episode really took the turn. And of course it had to be in the shower where Lux tells this reoccurring story to everyone he knows about me farting a coconut out my butt. Wait, did you shit in the shower?

No. He says that a coconut came out of my butt in the shower, and I have no idea what he's talking about. And I'm like, of course, this would happen in the shower. And one of the first things that Lux told Ike when he met him was that I farted a coconut out in the shower. Well, at least it wasn't, hey, mom, what's that hairy? Why does that airy thing jiggle when you laugh? He was talking about this. It's crazy.

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Ceponia. Yeah. I have that. I was sitting in the airport and there was a girl and I saw her like rubbing an apple and I was like, oh, surely. she's not going to eat that right beside me. And she did. And just like hearing the chomping, like going into the apple.

And then I saw her, she passed me on the plane to go like farther back. And I just hated her. I love the sound of the first bite into an apple. The chewing, I could not, I could get. But like you love the sound to hear somebody else do it. Like it's fine. I don't think the disease or the phobia, whatever it's called, like, I don't think it applies to like, you doing it. It's like to hear somebody else doing it. But even if somebody else bites into an apple,

like that first bite, I like the way it sounds. It doesn't bother me. But the chewing, I'm like, I don't care. It doesn't bother me. Is it specifically just apples? No, it's just because she had an apple. It's just like all crunchy things. So like chips in a car or like the sound of people chewing. Yeah. Like I cannot stand it. That's Elliot too. Don't chew around. He does he's grossed out by it. Well, not only does it gross me out, it's just like, it just does something to my ears. What causes that? Trauma? Misophonia or phobia is a neurological disorder where specific sounds trigger intense emotional, psychological, and behavioral responses while often characterized as fight or flight reaction.

While the exact cause is unknown, it is believed to stem from abnormal connectivity between the brain's auditory processing and emotion regulation systems, often involving hyper-reactivity to sensory stimuli. Okay, well, I'm way over stimulated. Neurodivergence, autism, spectrum disorder, and ADHD, psychiatric conditions, obsessive, compulsive disorder, could be any of give up. Anxiety and depression.

Or tinnitus and hearing loss that's related to all of those. Okay, I can tell you, if I can get away from it, it's like it controlled something so I can get up and, like, move away from it and I'll be fine. but if I am in a car and someone thinks that they're going to have a bag of chips or they're going to be smacking, get out, like on the freeway. Get out because we're not doing this. Wait, are we insane?

Yeah. No doubt we're lunatics and psychopaths for sure. Okay, well, we are going to play a game. We're going to play a game called We're Not Really Strangers. I actually have no idea what this game is. Okay. Note from the creator. Don't cheat.

Yeah, our worms will come out your butt and you will not get a job as an adult. Okay. This is from the creator. I have found there are two ways to play this game. One, play safe. Two, play to grow. The second is how you win. This is reflection.

Okay, so level one is perception. Level two is connection. Level three is reflection. First question. Wild card. Okay. Play a round of rock paper scissors. Winner can ask their, winner can ask their partner anything.

Loser must answer. Ready? Wait. Whoever wins rock paper scissors. gets to ask the partner anything? Yes. Okay. I already have my question for you.

Okay. Because when I win, which I will. Okay. Ready? Like, why would you say it like that? Like, I'm a loser. Let's go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

I win. When was the last time you had sex with Will Campbell? Um, last time I had sex with Will Campbell was before David, but not quickly before David. That is not an answer. Really?

2024. Okay. Yeah. Whomp. I wish I could tell you another answer, but it wouldn't be true. Okay. All right. Let me just shuffle.

Don't even remember what that man looks like below the belt. Who? Will Campbell? Yeah. Oh. I don't know what he looks like. You just forget. You know, have you ever, like, have you ever been in a relationship where you're, like, so sexually

comfortable with somebody and you're like, I really can't imagine. not being with that person and then you move on and then you forget what it was like. Yes. He'll is like, I have never been sexually comfortable, but I have seven children. Okay, next question. This is more for both of us. Okay. But I'm going to read it as it is.

Okay. What do you think I should know about myself that perhaps I'm unaware of? Keel thinks she's not funny. Like you think you're not funny. Okay. I'll accept that. Like some of the stuff that Kail says sometimes, like it's so unhinged that it's like not a normal person would say that. So you think I'm not normal?

Correct. That's what I was. I was waiting for you to be like, no, I didn't say all that. I did say all that. Okay. Something that you should know about yourself that I think you might be unaware of. Let me think because I feel like you're very self-aware. And I don't think.

It doesn't mean I make all the right decisions. I'm self-aware of the wrong ones. Yeah, but even when you make a decision that's not good for you, I feel like you still, but you already know that. You still come to the right conclusion, I feel. And sometimes you have to make those decisions on your own to really learn the lesson and like really get. We know we might not be making the right decision, but we have to do it anyway to learn the hard way to get it through our heads kind of deal. Do you know what? Can we talk about that for a second?

Yeah. Because I've struggled with that since probably birth. My dad used to. It's 1989. In 1989, when I came out, my dad always used to say, I have been there before. You need to learn the decisions from what I know. Like, you need to learn the, what is it? Do as I say, not as I do.

Yeah, like, I already learned it. So, like, you can learn from my experience so you don't have to live it. And it just doesn't work that way. Like, no, that's, see, that's not how this works. I'm going to make every wrong decision and then I'm going to learn it. Well, because I feel like you think we think that it's going to end up differently. So even if we know this might not be good, we hope to surprise ourselves with a different outcome. I think that's why we do it.

I don't know that for sure. It's just my guess. But what is something that Lindsay is like you should know about yourself? The first thing that comes to mind is like, but I don't know that this necessarily fits the question is like that people really love you. Like you really are. And I know that sometimes you're a little bit, I don't want to say, close. cold. I am cold person. Unguarded. Yeah. Like people really love you and it is okay to let some people in. That is very true about me. Very. Like I think you're like afraid sometimes and like maybe you don't even

realize that it is like more of like a fear than it is intentional. Like a subconscious fear but like your conscious is telling you to be cold instead. Like I live in such a guarded state that. that it's almost like a choice to be lonely. But then I'm like, I don't want to be lonely, but I also won't let anybody in. And that is a fear-based decision because it's like if I don't let that person in, then they can't hurt me. Yeah. Well, because I feel like I've lived a, and I don't want to talk negatively about them, but like a public abandonment for the entire time that I've been known in the public and then dealt with that through childhood. So it's just like, okay, if I don't, even in relationships, I'm like that.

I'm like, if I hold like this little part of me, I still hold the cards to where you can't hurt me. Yeah. Because you can only get so close. Yeah. And then I'm going to go into protection mode and cards are back up. They were only down a little bit, but they're back up now. Yeah. I could see that.

That's so true, though. The next one is if we were in a band, what would our name be? The lunatics, the psychopaths. The maniacs. The Maniacs. Yeah, I feel like that's really catchy. The Maniacs. The Maniacs.

Kitty Crushers. Katie Crushers is crazy. Katie Crushers is wild. Honestly love that. That's our next sticker merch is the lunatics. Can you imagine us being in a band? Being in a band? First of all, what interest?

I played the trumpet in sixth grade. Oh, I'm not playing an instrument. You have to play an instrument to be in a band? Well, what else are you going to do? Stand there and look pretty? Yes. Sway my hips a little bit. I have no rhythm.

So that's not happening. over here. Sway the hips a little bit and do a little singing that I can't do. Okay. I always said, you know what? I used to want to be in pageants. Like when I was growing up, I just thought it was like, cool thing to do. Yeah.

Although I, in my adulthood now, I'm like, I'm glad I never did that because I don't think it's a super healthy thing, just my opinion. Yeah. No, I would agree with that. But I always wanted to be in pageants. And I'm like, well, I could only be in a certain circuit because I have no talents. so I would have to find a talent. To be honest, though, some of the ones that I've seen on TV,

they also don't really have talent and they're just like making something up. But see, I didn't want to be a part of the making it up. It's like, I need to have an actual talent to do that. And the only people that are participating should have an actual talent, you know? Do you feel like you have a talent? No. I also don't feel like I have a talent. Like, what would it be?

Talking shit is a talent. So for real. like digging deep like a legitimate talent i don't have any well talking shit is a talent we made that a career you know like dancing um playing an instrument i don't know what else you do as a talent like what's a talent multiple languages is that talent play an instrument oh what is the um cups can you imagine me and kail go into a beauty pageant and we come out and we're just like playing with glasses like because you imagine like Actually, I just kind of, I actually wish we could do a setup right now.

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We're silent. We're like, what are they called? Mimes. And like everybody is loading into the freaking room, like into the venue. That's very like stepbrother ask, you know? Straight face. Kiel, I would never be straight face looking at you like that. Should we do that?

Can we? No, and it's like one of us is doing it and one of us walks out. We're like, we're just kidding. No, we're not. We're just kidding. this is the mental state we're in right now. Please help us. My first entrance, our first entrance in Indianapolis is we filter in with the crowds and

we're sitting in the audience doing that. They're playing with cups. It's called cups? Isn't she like, no, cops, I think is the thing where you like bounce them, right? Isn't that like a thing? Yeah, it's like, you know, like where they like do the rhythm for the cups. Then what's, oh, bowls. This is bowls.

Kail, I think you just made that up. Oh, I was thinking of the little like a sound bowl. Oh, you know what I'm talking about? I thought we were talking about that the whole time. That's like the. A sound bath. A sound bath, yeah. I want to show you guys.

Hi, friends. Welcome to your sound bath. This is a very grounding, soothing and deeply relaxing. I'm not being involved in any part of that. Singing bowl, sound meditation. People hear that and they think they're going to a spa, but really they're there to see us. That's terrifying. That's what I thought we were talking about this whole time.

That's insane. That is not what I was talking about. Okay. How would you describe me to a stranger? Like if I'm looking for you? Like you're lost? No. Like I'm giving a description of like what you're like.

No, yes. Why would it be talking about you to a stranger? Like, oh, my friend kale. Like, I want to introduce you to my friend kale, you know, and then describe how kale is. Wow. I would say if I'm like, oh, I want you to just, I want to introduce you to Lindsay. I would say she's so quick-witted, so be careful because she might throw in a couple, like to be funny, not to be a dick. I would say she might come off cold or a little abrasive, but she doesn't mean anything by it.

And she likes a good white claw. Okay. Great description. If I was describing Kiel to a stranger, sorry, I thought she was missing. I mean, I might be soon. Okay, I would say at first, Kail might come off a little shy. Okay. But if you're in the room for five minutes, she might cry. She might scream.

We're on shirt. She might take a phone call. She farts and shits a lot. you're like hey i want to introduce you to my friend kail she might talk she might tell you that she shit her pants the first time you ever talk to her yes ignore it and keep it pushing yes um yeah that's about right yeah that's about it okay okay solid has a stranger ever changed your life a stranger yes you i don't know any strangers we signed this podcast deal as strangers so you in fact changed my life. Well, then I guess you changed my life, but I didn't really feel like we were like

strangers. I knew who you were, but I had never met you. We signed a business contract without ever meeting. That's not the craziest thing we've ever done. Is it not? I could think of a lot of crazier things since December. I actually don't believe that that was a time where I had the original contract looked at by an attorney. And I don't think that Kristen came on to coffee combos for three, four years. She didn't. So we were running that shit solo dolo. We basically just were strangers and starting a business and signed contracts. I mean, it was a smart business move.

It really was. And I was apprehensive because I had never started a podcast before. And everybody at school told me, like the professors were like, no money in podcasting. My old agent at the time, his name was Mark. And he's like, there's no money in podcasting. Don't do it. But nobody, no attorney looked at the contract. No, Kristen didn't look at the contract.

Nobody looked at anything. I was just like, all right, fuck it. Like, I don't have anything to lose. And then, you know, it didn't even start off making money right away either. Meanwhile, me, I'm just on a Delta plane and reading a magazine. And I'm like, I don't know what those charts are, but it says podcasts are going to be doing really good. So, going to do it. I think you said that.

Yeah. You said that. Yeah. And then I guess it would have been like around three, four years, maybe. maybe that Kristen came around? Correct. Correct. That is correct.

This next question is mainly for me. What's the best compliment a stranger has ever given you? Well, chat GPT said I was good at marketing. No, please. Ooh, this is a cute one. Heal doesn't need AI. For what? Anything.

You're going to psychosis. And I'm here I am. Okay. What title would you give this chapter in your life? As bad as this chapter has been, I feel like the title that I would give would be ironic for as bad as it's been, but grateful and healing. Mine would be grateful, thankful, blessed.

Because as bad as it is, we talked about this before, things are going to be okay. And I'm in a spot in my life where I am able to recover from all that has been done, where previously I could not have said, like I couldn't probably have said that. So I feel like I would still be... To the point you've got to go through it yourself. Somebody else can't teach you that. Yeah, 1,000%. Okay.

What do you crave more of? More of what? Clams. Huh? Not clams. Oysters? What are you talking about? You said, what do you crave more of and didn't give choices?

There's no choice. It's just what would you crave more of? That question doesn't even make sense, Kail. Do you crave more oysters? Silence. Silence. You crave more silence. Yeah.

Okay. Like that's a, that is a full-time life craving for me. Fair. I crave more cave time. More cave time. Yeah. I crave to find a cave and be stuck in it. I would used to say that Kale's answer would used to be I crave more chaos, but I feel like she's out of that.

Yeah. I'm like, chaos is just like the theme, I guess. but like truly crave more calmness. Agreed. Chaos, calm, cave. Cave is crazy. Wait, a new book title. So all my book titles are like pride over pity, so it's two P's, and then hustle and heart is two H's, and then letters of love is two L's.

How do I do cave? It's like the calming in the cave? No. The calm cave. We're just going to not do that book deal. Okay. What would your younger self not believe about your life today? That I would have been cheated on so many times?

Oh. I mean, same. I would say four baby dads. Genuinely, truly, like, my younger self, never. Well, first of all, my younger self wouldn't believe I had seven kids because I didn't want fucking kids. Yeah. The second thing is with four fucking people, bitch. Mm-hmm.

Or genuinely. I wasn't. Like, if you really think about it, none of my baby dads have like breeding qualities that people look for. Like when you think about dogs and you're like, okay, you pick the dogs with the best qualities, right? Or animals in general. People say that like in the South. It's like, you pick.

Do you get what I'm saying, though? People say that in the South. Like men say that. Like, she would be a good breeder. Like, it's not funny. And I'm not, I'm comparing myself to a dog in the sense that like, nobody should have sought me out to breed. Nobody should have procreated with me. I don't like that a man would say she would be a good breeder, but I feel like it's a compliment, but just like in a shitty way.

You know what I mean? For sure. Because like you have like you really should think about the qualities of the person. And I'm talking like starting mentally, like let's do a deep dive there. Right. Like before we think about procreating, let's talk about the mental health. What runs in your family? You know, those types of things.

Genetic qualities there. And then unfortunately you do have to look at physical attributes, right? Like if you're trying to raise a D1 baby, what the fuck was I? do in breeding with men that were shorter than me? I can't answer that question for you. You just must have liked people who were short who weren't kings. No, I was desperate for attention and to be loved because I look at it now and it's like, Will told me that I wasn't a good breeder.

Why? Because I'm short and then I brought down the gene pool. If any of my baby dad, said that you brought down the jean pole. Pool. Pool. I was taking it. Sorry, I was thinking about Only fans.

This is crazy. No, he really did say that. He said that that's why Jackson will be short if he is. All right, you guys, let's talk about skims again because you know skims is for me and they have a new everyday cotton set. I'm obsessed with it. I have the bra and panties and I can't stop wearing. I literally wear skims every single day. I love skims.

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Like, I don't even remember getting those notifications, and I, like, calm down a little bit, because I'm like, okay, maybe he doesn't hate me, but do you hate me because of my ticket sales? I feel like it'll get better. It's just, like, nobody understands what a podcast tour is, so now we're trying to build out, like, what we're advertising. Like, do you hate me or? This craziest thing I ever heard. Do you know what he said?

You know you're crazy. You know that, right? that was his response and I met him three times. No, Kiel, it was the, it, it, it, it, it wasn't from him meeting you. Like, I feel like a lot of times you miss the boat on why people think like a certain thing, you know? And it's like, did you think about the voice memo that you sent him? I was explaining.

I was giving context. I know, but it was, it was so all over the place. You're like, I mean, people don't know what a podcast were is. And like, I promise it'll get better. Honestly, the ticket sales are not bad. I was just, I check it so religiously that, no, I wasn't lying. But, like, I feel like if I say that they're not that great and then I'll be excited when they are. But, like, they're fine.

That's me, they're fine. That's me, they're fine. That's me, they're fine. So I'm like, just staying on top of it. And he literally told you not to do that. And he literally told me, you know you're crazy, right? Well, that audio was crazy. Was that last week when you weren't medicated?

It's like that board, like, is this inappropriate for like a, I don't even like to call myself like anyone's boss, but like is it like, will I get sued? For the pizza? Well, because it's like, it's like unsolicited. A lot of things you do is unsolicited. We're not like texting you. You'd be like, hey, Dale, did you order two pizzas? She's like, I found it. Can you play it?

I don't know if this is like inappropriate because I'm like, quote, unquote, like. y'all's boss i don't that makes me really uncomfortable but i don't know who else to tell this to so i'm i'm just sending you a voice note of what just happened to me i placed an order with pizza hut online because i was hungry for book club not hungry for book club i was hungry and it was about to be book club so place this order and like almost an hour goes by it was like 50 minutes or like 55 minutes and i'm like where the fuck is this pizza so i like call the number that's on my confirmed email and it's like we're closed due to implement weather. Okay, well I paid $41 and 58 cents for this pizza to get delivered and you're closed. So okay, I'll get my money back tomorrow when

you guys are open. Great. Love that for y'all. Place another order at this place that is open called Vincenzo's. That one's $30. Great. Love that for me. Rebecca just calls me on my cell phone and says, hey, did you hear the doorbell at the content house because there's somebody there with pizza? and I'm like, but what do you mean? Because they said that they're closed due to inclement weather. So I placed an order somewhere else for like $30 something dollar. You guys, I feel like I'm losing my mind. Like something, like I'm losing my mind.

And I, are we all concerned or is it the weather? Like, what is going on? Is it the weather? She takes a proliferant please that. The story is just that she ordered two pizzas. Now that you played that about six weeks later, I think there might be something wrong. Sometimes Kiel will send an audio message,

and it will be the extreme level of psych. Like, she'll be like, well, I'm driving, and then it's like, she's screaming at one of the kids. And she's like, stop right now. I'm talking. And then she'll continue on. And she'll be like, oh, sorry if it's not, like you can read it if it's like too long or whatever.

Like, sorry, but I don't know if the words will be like, right. What are you talking about? It just wasn't. I thought it was fine. And then it's, and I don't, like, Hill, I just, but now it's just like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. Like, I feel like I'm mostly, like, easy going with all my girls that, like, work together and, like, I don't. Hill, we were just trying to figure out where the story from the pizza was going. Yeah, just, you know, it, I don't know. Move on. Move on. It's just like, you know, what's in a... Because I don't know, like, what's actually appropriate because technically, like, I don't like to say that I'm a boss, like, but like as an owner, I'll say, as the owner of a company,

I don't know what is like borderline or like crossing the line or like, can I share personal information. Now that we've gone into a complete state of psychosis, what would be one wish that you could tell your younger selves before signing on TV? Have an attorney look over your contract. Put residuals in there. Any reruns, any other deals in the future have to be paid. I would definitely say to have my own attorney. I would also say don't give in to production demands that don't align. I would also say anything you don't want to talk about, do not mention it in any way, shape, or form in any capacity while you're filming on set. Don't mention it to a producer.

Don't mention it while you're miced up. Don't mention it ever. Because if you don't talk about it, they can't film about it. And that's from my experience. I would agree with that. I would also say be careful about who you develop personal relationships with while working with crew because they are there to do a job. And their job is to work with the production company and with the network. And that is to deliver what they feel like is good TV.

So regardless, whether you feel like you don't want to talk about something, they're going to exploit it if it's going to make them money. 1,000% And on that note, we have foul play. Okay. Last fall, my grandpa got sick. I was 39 weeks pregnant and ready to go into labor. He ended up needing to stay a week, but would return home eventually. I don't know what that means, but well, he was hospitalized and we were told he was not

going to be returning to normal health. They live in an old farmhouse. So after I gave birth, freshly postpartum by three days, my sister and I went to their house to help my grandmother move their bedroom from upstairs to downstairs. Grandmas at the hospital, my sister's doing the heavy lifting by moving their bed. I decided to just do the nightstand. Oh, I know where this is going. Let me take out the drawers first.

I opened the first drawer and boom, handcuffs. Analyzer. Analyzer. And lube. I opened the next drawer and I saw was lace and chains before I decided, nope, I'm just going to leave this one here to save everyone's embarrassment. Granny and grandpa are getting down. The rest of the day, we laughed and joked all day about how they still got it.

I went there a couple weeks later once my grandfather was home. And sure enough, he had moved the nightstand down. My mom's sister and I couldn't help but laugh out loud when we saw it. Could you imagine seeing your grandparents anal stuff and Lou? No, I could not. I don't even want to imagine that my grandparents ever did that. Like, obviously I know how we got here. We can talk about the birds and the bees.

but like grandparents doing that. I wonder like at what age you really stop having like sex. For men, never. Here's the thing. Before I, I'm going to destroy everything. Like no one's finding my vibrators. No one is finding anything that belongs to me. I am smashing my electronics before I off myself because nobody needs to be subjected.

I just feel like there's got to be people who are listening to this. There's got to be an age where you're just like. like, okay, I'm kind of like hanging up that part of my life. Like at what point is that? I mean, when I moved in, I was like, okay. No, not that. I'm talking about like sex in general. Like at what point does your relationship just become like more of a friendship and you're just like hanging out? Oh, like in your older age. At what year in your marriage or relationship? Yeah. That's a great question. When I think back to my grandparents, they were married for 50 years when they died and like surely they weren't and they were in their I mean my grandma got Alzheimer's when

she was in her 60s so I feel like they probably stopped by the time they were 45 50 what hill I'm 36 there's no way I'm stopping by the time I'm 45 did I say 45 yeah oh I meant 55 but like what are you do I guess my question is then what are you doing with each other using a lot of lube like looking at each other what do you mean like during the day yeah like okay so you're that age some of my most favorite childhood memories are with my grandparents and my grandparents were like regular grandparents age like i remember them being in their 50s and stuff like that my grandparents always um made a mixed drink um and they would sit out on the swing on their front porch they had a swing that hung from the like a like a bench swing yeah my grandma was big gardener

My grandfather always worked. He did woodworking and he worked on guns, like people's like hunting rifles. And then he also did just like yard work. Like that's the like and they just vibe. So at that age, is that where like hobbies really come in? Like, you zone in to like your hobbies. Like I don't have any of those. Okay, everyone is talking about GLP ones right now. We love talking about Roe because Roe offers the first FDA approved GLP 1 pill for weight loss at the lowest cost around. The new GLP 1 pill has the same weight loss ingredients as the shot and packs comparable results to the shot and it can help patients lose 14% of their body weight in a year on average. That's one daily pill for fewer cravings and filling fuller with an innovative new formula. If you guys are interested in in GLP1, the new FDA approved

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And then when I moved away, then they had two more. So they got, you know, she got close with them. But I would say. say that they definitely had hobbies because, I mean, they weren't seeing the grandkids all the time. I never saw them after the age of, I think the last time I saw them where it was like 14 years old, something like that. Wow. And then once we moved away, I never saw them again until they died.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That's another trauma. Oh, for sure, because they also helped raise me, you know, so that was hard. But what I was going to say was they had to figure out, like, how to stay busy for their days. You know what I mean? So it's like woodworking, yard work, gardening. I swear, like, the older that people get that are around me, I hear all the time people say,

oh, I'm so much busier like now that I'm retired. And I'm like, what are you busy doing? All the things that they couldn't do when they were working. So it's like they can just, like actually tend to their life at that point. Which is so interesting because when I think about, like, my grandma never worked. What do you mean? My grandma didn't work. She was just a stay-at-home mom?

Yeah. Oh, wow. She never worked. See, I'm kind of, you know what? I told somebody, was it you that I told the other day that I was like, I could really get behind like that stay-at-home mom, stay-at-home wife life, you know? Yeah. I don't think I could do it. I think that.

I think it just sounds appealing now because of things that we've been through. Yeah. I'm like, that sounds really good right now. I loved it when I was just staying at, but like before the podcast, like all three of them, I loved being a stay-at-home mom, but there was also times where I was, I knew I was ready to go back to work. Like, I knew I was ready for something new, whether it be part-time, full-time, whatever. And not because I didn't want to raise my kids, but because I wanted something to do.

Yeah. It filled your cup outside of raising kids. Yeah. Like it wasn't even for financial purposes. It was like, I was just ready to do something. Yeah. That's when I, like, when I get bored and I went back to school. and, you know, whatever.

I even told podcast one, I was like, if we're getting a sponsor from Penn Foster, can I take a paralegal class? And she was like, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, if they're sponsoring us, why can't I take a paralegal class? Well, I didn't say that to her, but in my head, I'm like, yeah.

Like, it's about that time where I'm starting to get bored to do something. Wow, Kiel. You know? Bored? A challenge, if you will. A healthy challenge. A challenge right?

Life is challenging right. now. I'm like, a challenge sounds terrible. Okay, so maybe I'm wording it wrong. I need a distraction. A distraction. I need a distraction. Yeah. So what better way to do it than do a certificate of some sort? I want to get my paralegal certificate so I can be a paralegal and file charges on these hose. File charges on these hose is nuts. File the, file the initial lawsuits right off the bat. So that was, file the initial lawsuits right off the bat. So that way I don't have to pay the legal team to do that for me. First of all, no law firm, I'm a fucking liability. One thousand percent. No law firm is ever hiring me. Ever. You're going to be like,

you're going to talk about this on your podcast. You were just talking about the case that we were trying to get a gag order on. Kail, before we go, I really need to ask you about the other business since you're looking for hobbies. Remember how we said that we were going to do like a co-parenting business? Needle point. Well, it was just another idea. Kail, we've never had that conversation before in our life. Telling you right now. Oh, like that was another thing you came up with? Yeah.

Okay, well, I had told Becky that you and I were going to do like this co-parent thing. We are. On that note, join us on the fatherless behavior tour this summer. Tickets at kale lowry.com. Thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app. Follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit coffeeconvospodcast.com to shop.

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