Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Fast Fashion, Women's Health & Social Etiquette

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, friendship. family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Cail and Lindsay. Good morning, Kitty Cat. I love your shirt. Thank you. I was saving it for this episode, actually. How are you? I'm doing good. Can we just have a little chat about here for a second? Yeah, sure. I got a Brazilian blowout, and I just need to tell you, like I've been telling everybody else who will listen to me that doesn't even care about my hair. do it. What does a Brazilian blowout do? Like, is it, like, right now, my hair is at such

an awkward length that, like, I've been wearing it in a claw clip so often because it's either like curl it or it's at like this weird length that I, it's like a rob. It's not a bob. It's a Robert. And I need to grow it out. We love a good Robert. I think it actually looks pretty cute like that. My hair is extremely frizzy and curly. And so if I get, out of the shower and I decide to wash my hair. It's immediately like I need to put serums in and blow dry it or I'm going to have to rewash it to fix it. I put so much dry shampoo in my hair last night that it looks like it's clean. But does your hair, so when you wash it, if you just let it air dry, does it air dry like what it looks like now? No. It air dry is crazy. Yeah. It's not

curly. Although I will say like I do have some like spiral curls down here. So like maybe one day I'll have curly hair. I don't know, but it's not pleasant. Like, it's not pleasant in this current moment, but at least it's not super frizzy. If I just let my hair air dry, it looks insane. Okay, mine also looks insane. So I was like, okay, I'm going to get the Brazilian blowout. I was debating whether doing like this newer version, it's like less chemicals, whatever, but supposedly it doesn't do the same thing as the Brazilian blowout. I'm pretty sure you're putting formaldehyde on your head. Don't really care. Did it. And when I tell you, Last night, I washed my hair. Now, this was not including the washing time. But from the time I got out of the shower, brushed my hair, put my drying serum in, it was dry in seven minutes.

Can we talk about the hair washing process really quickly? I always see so much, like, social content or like women that I talk to, like, friends that I have that are like, ugh, it's hair washed. I like, don't want to wash my hair. I don't want to wash my hair. I don't want to wash my hair. I don't want to wash my hair. washing my hair is not the problem. I don't care about washing my hair. The problem is I don't want to style it because it looks, I'm not great at hair to begin with. I don't want to blow dry it and then curl it or straighten it or do whatever. The washing it itself is, but I also, I don't have extensions. I don't have blonde hair anymore, so I don't have to use purple shampoo.

So like the washing process is not it. Like I don't care about it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that what you're saying is also what other women are trying to get across. I don't think it's the actual washing of it. I think it's the getting out of the shower and immediately doing something with it. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to like do a temp check there because I didn't understand unless it's the washing process for people who have extensions because when we were growing up, I don't know if it was like this in Atlanta or wherever you grew up, South Carolina and Tennessee. I feel like you're from all three. For me,

nobody had extensions. I had extensions because my mom did hair and I begged her to do extensions for me. So I did have extensions for one or two years. But outside of that, like nobody had extensions. So it wasn't, they weren't as common as they are now. I feel like today, everyone you meet has hair extensions at some point. It's so crazy that you say that because I see a little middle school girls getting out in the like drop off line. Totally can tell they have extensions in their hair. And I just wonder if my parents would have ever allowed that. I don't think that they would. have. Times are obviously very different now. Girls are doing the self-care routines, the Ulta and Sappora halls, having all the things that we just didn't have. We were putting, if we were more moisturizing our face, it was because it was the same moisturizer that was going on our body. And now all the girls, actually the woman who did my Brazilian blowout, she was telling me about her daughter and how she's a freshman in high school. And of course, she gives her things that probably a lot of other girls don't have because she's a stylist and whatever and how she has the extensions and she does a hair washing routine with her every

single week. And I'm like, wow, I really wish that my mom was a hairstylist. And then I thought of you. And I was like, even if my mom was a hairstylist in your situation, you didn't get any perks of that. I think the only perk I got was. She was, she did go get certified for like the whatever the extensions were the beaded ones my mom could do and she might still do i don't know and then the the ones that have like that wax that you like melt onto your hair oh yeah that um what are those things called um pay tips yeah those were the two that i had i had them in high school because i wanted crazy colors and um they wouldn't stay so my mom just gave me those but it was like a full head it was like a whole production for my money these girls at the middle school they

will get out and they have like tinsel extensions in their hair. Oh, see, but like, that's kind of fun. No, it's so fun. But I'm like, back in the 90s, if we would have gone to our parents and said that we wanted to get hair extensions, they would have looked at us like we were fucking crazy. 1,000%. One thousand percent. Think about like all of the cost that is associated with that, all of the maintenance that is associated with that. Like, how much is too far? That's a great question. I wonder that about like the Sephora and all. to halls, which just the cost in general, I don't know. I have been doing a deep dive on my own personal spending and I have huge financial goals that I'm trying to hit. If Valley came to me today and said that she wanted hair extensions, the answer is no right now. You're going to have to wait until next year. Well, I mean, I get that. Also, I've been doing a deep dive on my

bathroom. Oh. And I don't know what got me into this phase. I feel like I always do this every fall. I must have had like a major trauma in fall at some point. Actually, I did. I don't even know why I'm sitting here trying to act like I'm fucking lying. It happens every time. Every fall, it's like the smell of the air causes me to do the most craziest things. And I don't know. Trauma that is the car at the courthouse. Yeah. Definitely. And like when I smell the air, I have to do things that like I can fixate on. Yep. So my bathroom, for example, going through all of the products, looking at expiration dates, I used to be that girl that would go and buy shit on sale, which I don't really know how to shop sales that much. And I know that sounds crazy, but I'm just like not good at it, you know? I know there's a lot of people out there that are like super savers and they go out and find like the greatest deals. You were telling me about Kristen doing that. Just never really been my thing. But I did used to get in the habit of purchasing things. that's like, oh, it's buy one, get one free. And I think I'm getting a deal. But really, it's

expired. Oh, is that how that works? Yeah. And did you know that like makeup expires, skincare expires? I had no idea about this until I got somebody to come and help me learn an organization. I act like I'm like this super organized person, but really like at my core, I'm not. Everything in my house is organized. But like that's not really who I am. When I tell you, the amount of products that are in a box upstairs that I did not use that I thought that I was doing like this buy one get one free thing, but really it just became buy one and one's trash is alarming. I'm really trying to focus on just the things that I use. Like I don't need things in my bathroom that I might use. The beauty influencers specifically that have this

like insane amount of like makeup products. Like I don't. I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. I literally have one of each thing in my house. Like, I don't. And I will use it until it's, the pan is showing. When I came to Delaware, I put my makeup in a Ziploc bag. And I probably had six things, like, in total because I've tried to, like, really perfect, like a minimized version of a makeup routine. You don't need all that shit. No, agreed. Completely. Like, who's doing all of that every single day? because you're not. No. And like for this content house, like I went out and I bought one of each thing that I use at home so I don't have to travel it back and forth, but I'm not overdoing it. I'm not going to overstock. I don't want to have things in my house or here that I think I want to try

and then I never get to, like it's too much. I tend to agree with that. Also, another thing that I've been doing is going through all of the Amazon sets that I have also overconsumed. And I have found that why am I buying stuff in all of these colors that I'm not going to wear? I have a bone to pick with Amazon fashion and TikTok shop. There have been a couple quality graphic teas that I've gotten from TikTok shop that I'm assuming is like, so a lot of the things on TikTok shop are also on Amazon. And I don't know if anyone realizes that. A couple of them are sort of like small shops.

they are better quality like comfort colors t-shirts with the graphic that I like right so there's been a couple but there has been a recent um barrel sweat pant situation on ticto shop that emily told me is also on amazon i washed them and put them in the dryer and i can't wear them anymore like the quality is so bad with this fast fashion i'm no longer wasting my money on that and i really like I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on quality pieces either, but I am absolutely not purchasing shit quality from Amazon and TikTok shop anymore. And some of them is, it's weird because it's one of those things that you don't realize until you already get it.

Like, you don't know what quality it is. But I'm so pissed off about this specific pair of pants because I was like, I really like them. They're so comfortable. They're so stretchy. I size down two sizes. I just really like them. And maybe it's a case of like, don't put them in the dryer.

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when it wears out. I'm going to repurchase it again because I've used it so many times and it just works. That brand has a plethora of other items. Probably going to order from it doesn't feel me. A lot of the stuff comes and to your point it's falling apart. You maybe get too. wears out of it. At the point that I realized I was ordering stuff off of Amazon and I couldn't wash it at home because I knew it was going to fall apart and I'm sending it to the dry cleaner. What am I doing? No. And then I'm cleaning Amazon clothes. Truly. And then it's like, okay, yes, I can afford this $20 pair of sweatpants off Amazon, right? And then two wares. Again, to your point, you get two wares out of it and it doesn't feel the same anymore. And now I have to go by another

situation for those two washes or whatever i like okay let me back up too because there is a but how many times will you repurchase the 20 dollar pair that's what i was getting at so christin just said in our little chat on this recording like how many times will you repurchase the 20 dollar pair that's what i was getting at there was an outfit and i want to say it was like i think it was called like scuba or snuba i don't know what the fuck it was called from spinks it was a set i mean you have to buy it i remember this you used to love that I was, I still am to this day obsessed with the Spanx outfit. And I want to say it was like a scuba. I'll post the link somewhere because I just try to follow the bouncing ball here.

Founded dupe to this Spanx outfit. Now, the Spanx outfit is absolutely not affordable. It is very pricey. I want to say it's like 60 for the top, 60 for the bottom or 70 for the top, 70 for the bottom. I don't know. Somewhere along those lines, right? Found a dupe on. on Amazon. The first dupe, I was like, okay, this is really comparable. Like, I love it. Washed it once or twice. The inside now doesn't feel the same.

Repurchased, the fit is completely different than the first time. And it's the same company, the same knockoff company or the same dupe company. I don't know what the fuck happened. So now I am, like, I do really want to buy the Spanx one because I had the black one, but I think, I think I spilled bleach on it or something. happen to it that I don't I no longer have the swings one I'm like I just need to buy the quality pieces and try to like just keep them in good shape and good condition because my other thing is like when I do buy quality pieces and like maybe this is the whole fucking point when I buy a quality piece in something whether it's a designer item or good quality like spanks or ugs

when I tell you that I wear the shit down to the ground to the that I have to replace it but then I'm like okay but then I feel like I didn't take care of the item and now I have to repurchase it anyway because I wore it down to the ground. And then I'm kicking my, like, it's so hard. I am definitely a purchaser. Like, I will spend more money on stuff that I know that I'm wearing all throughout the week. So certain leggings, I've gone back and forth on this Lulu Limin thing. It's like, why am I paying that much for leggings? But when I find myself grabbing the same pair and I'm wearing that, like I will wear them, wash them, wear them again. Yep. I will spend on something like that because I know it's going to get worn to the fucking ground.

Don't care. Yep. Why am I spending $36 on an outfit that I'm probably going to wear one time from Amazon because it's so specific that like I don't want to be seen in that again? Are you kind of like that where it's... Wait, that's so funny that you say that because I bought off TikTok shop, I bought two two Halloween shirts for Salem. for Salem, Massachusetts, when we went in September.

And I bought a ton of souvenirs. And I was like, Becky, like, you drove. Like, if I can't fit everything in my suitcase, do you mind taking stuff home to you? And the next time I see you, you'll just give it to me. And she was like, Kail, you are never going to wear those Halloween shirts ever again. Leave them. She was like, literally leave them. I didn't leave them because I bought them.

And I'm like, no, because now I have to prove to myself that I will wear them for the rest of the month of October because, one, they're Halloween and two, I bought them. That being said, I took what she said so literally that now every time I see a cute shirt on TikTok shop or on Amazon or wherever, whatever, I'm not buying it because it is so specific. I don't want to be seen in it again or I don't have a purpose of for it outside of this one event. I'm no longer buying it for that event. Does that make sense? See, I've gotten to a place like that now too. I went through. So I have a basket next to my washer and dryer and it's for like my dry clean clothes so when i take it off if i know it's going to fall apart because i'm cheap bitch and i ordered off of amazon i'm probably going to take it the dry cleaner

i went through that basket and probably had 30 different outfits of stuff that need to go to the dry cleaner and i'm like first of all why am i purchasing clothes that need to go to the dry cleaner that's number one we don't have time for that number two i'm never going to wear this outfit again so why am I putting this in this bin to now spend more money at the dry cleaner to dry clean it knowing I'm never going to wear it but I'm also a hoarder so if I bought it and I'm like oh it's still cute but I'm probably not going to wear it nope getting it dry cleaned that's a mental disorder yeah I would agree like the amount of like bullshit shirts that I have like I don't know what anyone refer like graphic teas that like really don't mean anything

that have no significance or whatever, like, I really only need three of them, but for some reason, I have 40. Like, let's take a picture of our graphic T-shirt drawers and post them because I am the exact same way and I have held on to graphic T's for years and years and years and like never worn them past the first time that I wore them. I swear to you, if I went through my closet right now and purged everything, if I was not a hoarder, and purged everything that. I have not touched or don't wear, I would probably have 10 items in there, I swear.

But I need to do that. I know. Like what's wrong with us that we can't do it? It's like we're holding on to either the fact that we think we might wear it or we're holding on to the fact that we spent money on it so we need to keep it. Why are we doing that? Can we do a challenge where we go through our stuff? everybody's doing this with us. We're going through our stuff and we're going to count the items that we know that we would wear in our closet. And I bet you it's anywhere from like 10 to 12 items. I would agree with you. I'm also want to be more mindful about like, I don't want to call them plain, but more like solid pieces instead of like shit that I can only wear with certain things. Speaking of like Kristen said in here, I just donated so many. I don't ever fucking wear them. So I.

I donate a lot of my clothes that when I do like purges and stuff, I do donate them. But some pieces I put on Poshmark, like the good ones that I know that other people can wear, right? Well, someone recently told me about a baby shower idea or like a baby gift idea. And it is secondhand items that you get off of like Poshmark. They basically do it like grab bag style. I have not seen it specifically on Poshmark. somebody that is friends with Becky told me about this idea that she has seen like grab bag style listings for like babies or toddlers or even like people like us like we might have

20 fucking graphic teas that are pretty cute but like we don't want to wear them anymore list it for all 20 50 bucks put it in a grab bag and then list it on posh mark or something for like I've seen people do that on Facebook marketplace specifically with the baby clothes. It's so smart. And you could do it as a baby shower gift if that person or like a sprinkle and you can wash them yourself and make sure that like the ones that have stains or the really ugly ones, you like pull them out.

But like what a great way to, we'll say like upcycle. I agree with that. I actually saw something that came across Facebook the other day. And it was this girl talking about how she had gifted some clothes of her child that outgrew them to a friend. And then friend has them for a period of time. And then she sees the friend is reselling those items on Facebook marketplace. And she was asking, like, should I be offended or should I not be offended?

How do you feel? I think that if you gave them to your friend under the kindness of your heart and she used what she could while she had them and then they're still in good condition and she chose to list them, I mean, that's no longer your place. do I think it's tacky? Yeah, I do think it's a little bit tacky, but I also understand because it's two sides for me. Like if you're giving it. Like, what if that person needed the money? I know, but like I see both sides of this. If you're giving it to your friend and your kid no longer is wearing it, you should be giving that as a gift with no strings attached. At the point that you're upset that that person is reselling the stuff after they've used it, that's with strings attached.

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Kristen, will you please play the first video of him learning, or one of the videos, whichever one you find the most engaging? I am so impressed by him and just so thankful that a man is actually diving into women's health because we are not studied. And he literally says, was it him or somebody else, the creator that was talking about him or he said they study male pattern baldness more than they study endometriosis for women. Wait, what? Yes.

And so like the outrage that is coming from this man. And like I need it to be said right here on coffee commas podcast, men need to focus on women's health because yesterday somebody made a comment to me, looked me dead in my face. And he said, I have never met another woman that goes as hard as you do for women. And I said, and that's part of the problem. I said men like you need to also advocate for women because you recognize why I'm speaking up and what I'm speaking up about and what I'm speaking to men are part of the problem and this man is not part of the problem.

This man is doing the Lord's work. Let's see him. Dog, I'm trying to tell you, I don't, I feel like women should be madder. Like, I don't get it because like, the more you look into women's health, you're like, bro how are y'all even remotely accepting this but then you're like wait they're not accepting it this is why every woman i've ever met if she talks about her own health she immediately gets angry and i've been like why are you getting so angry now i get it because you go to the doctor and the doctor is so consistently condescending about your health or if you have like a completely logical question they're like they give you all shoulders they're give you all shoulders about like something as simple as like, hey, is there any treatment that I could do for like endometriosis or PCOS or anything that could lower the pain of my current periods? Like literally, it is baffling that like you could be like, hey, I might need

like an ultrasound so I could like look at my body, figure out what the heck is going on currently. They're like, yeah, we got, we got nothing for you. All shoulders? You're all shoulders right now? And it's wild because, like, the more things that women keep on telling me about women's house, you're like, bro, this is, this is so much. Why don't you matter? And it's like, the fact that you have women on your, like, women are fighting against women's rights is even crazier. Like, bro, what?

like I am I am shocked by all this like the the fact that there's not a lot of research on postpartum depression until recently or like the like what like how how do you explain to someone that you are depressed that your baby is not latching onto your breast and no one's willing to talk about it like bro no one's willing to talk about it. Like, bro, no one's willing to talk about it. It's, I'm mad for you. So that brings me to the next point that I learned last week. I talk about my health on this podcast specifically so much. And I have PCOS and I have either something wrong with my gallbladder or whatever. Did you know that the diagnosis of IBS is not real? Wait, what? IBS is just like a term that doctors, like, throw at people because it's a catch-all and it covers all the bases.

It's not real. So then what is it if it's not that? It's a catch-all. It's like, oh, you're having these symptoms, you have IBS. Because they don't want to do further testing? Pretty much. They don't have an explanation. Maybe there isn't an explanation. Maybe doctors don't really understand why it happens, like, whatever. But, like, IBS is just a catch-all to, like, basically quiet. I was going to say quiet. their victim, quiet their patients, because they don't have real answers. It's so crazy that you brought this up because I was scrolling earlier this morning. And would it be in Breast Cancer Awareness Month? Somebody that I followed had posted all of these companies that are out here, you know, pink ribbons and supporting breast cancer awareness month. How about let's look into the chemicals of the stuff that you're putting into things and focus on that and not just, oh, it's breast cancer. cancer awareness month, like the chemicals could be causing it.

That's so interesting. Could we talk about like awareness in general? Like when we're saying, oh, it's this, that, and the third awareness month and we're wearing a wibbit, a wibbon, we're wearing a ribbon. We're wearing that color for awareness. Is that really awareness if we're not talking, if the shirt doesn't have resources, if the ribbon doesn't have a foundation that people can go to to learn about said subject. What is wearing the color actually doing, right? Like, there was a time where I think for

football, Lincoln's team wore pink socks for October. But like, what did that really do? Like, can we have some education behind why we're wearing pink socks? Because that also has happened with Jackson before. And he would come to me and be like, hey, mom, why are we wearing whatever color? And I guess maybe they're like okay well parents educate your kids on your own but it's like isn't that an opportunity to be able to educate them as a group of peers and I'm guilty of it too like oh it's whatever whatever awareness month but like what am I really doing to for the awareness aspect of it I just want to get better at that and I want to brainstorm ideas like how we can do better with that but like what the fuck is the awareness color like oh you have PCOS okay well what's

your experience with PCOS. A lot of people that have PCOS, we don't have answers. So like for PCOS awareness, cool. Kristen said, no one wants to hear this, but I think it's really mostly a marketing scheme for businesses to encourage people to buy and I feel like they're and feel like they are doing something. I agree. I think the people who are doing and wearing the ribbons and wearing the colors, they think they're helping. They really do. This is not, this is not a shot at them by any means because I've done it too, like having Lincoln's football team wear the pink socks or whatever, like it feels like we're doing something, but we're not. And so that's why I say I'm also guilty of it. But to your point, Kristen, like, it is. I think that you are spot on when you say

it is a marketing scheme. And that's actually really fucking sad. And a lot of companies, I feel like they kind of follow in suit with what other companies are doing. So they would be an outlier if they're not participating. So it's kind of like, how can we implement this awareness, but also make more money off of set awareness. Maybe a portion of the proceeds, like whatever the extra profit is, is getting donated. Like, maybe that's, like, what it is. But I think a lot of the times, like, I have gone back and forth with Kristen, like, do I post my donations to things so that people don't put me into this category?

But, yeah, I think to Kristen's point, she said people who won't purchase something regularly are incentivized to buy to, quote, unquote, support. but the portion is so small that it's almost like not even worth it. I kind of am like if if I want to support that, then I need to go directly to whatever foundation it is to support knowing they're getting 100% of the proceeds versus buying something. It could be something as small as certain socks, the Pilate Studio, any portion of those sales is going towards whatever.

Or if I'm going to spend that amount of money, I can just donate it to that cause directly. When we did years ago, the rare disease awareness for Leah's daughter, I mean, we donated thousands and we're small business. It should be more like that if we're going to do it. It was like, okay, buy a T-shirt, but the portion was large. I mean, for a small business, it was large, I should say. But anyways, most places are not like that.

I have to tell you something absolutely insane. I saw this on People magazine, and I need to know how you feel about it. A man was arrested for excessively kissing and fondling partner during a flight, and he received a sentence. It says that he was a New Zealand man sentenced after being arrested for excessively kissing and fondling partner while on flight. On September 29th, this 30-year-old man appeared in court, and he was sentenced to six months of community detention and 12 months of intensive supervision.

How do you feel about this? So it says he was on a domestic flight alongside 48 other passengers and two flight attendants. He was repeatedly asked to stop intense public displays of affection, which flight attendant said were making others uncomfortable. After being asked to stop once, he placed his hand inside of her bra. The couple reportedly pretended to be asleep when they were approached by the flight attendant. They were arrested and both admitted to the charges. Why?

Why are we doing this on a plane? I don't know. And this goes back to conversations that you and I have had before about like our kids being exposed to stuff or not being exposed to stuff or maybe just like our lifestyles are different, but we're, you know, on this transportation with people who have choice to be able to have whatever lifestyle that they want to have. If I saw a man putting his hand in a woman's bra and, my child was on that flight, I would raise mortal hell.

It just feel, whether there are kids or not, it just feels so wildly inappropriate that I'm like, why are we doing that on a plane? Why are you putting yourself in a position to be asked to stop something like that? Like, what the, like, you couldn't wait to keep your hands off each other until y'all got to a room? Well, and then I'm like, okay, were these people drinking and like intoxicated and then doing this? because I don't feel like this is a normal thing for people not in an intoxicated state would be doing. An adult.

Are they teens or are they adults? Kristen said, but like what the fuck is a titty grab going to do? Like these are full grown adults, like 30 years old. I'm grossed out, actually. Like, if they want people to watch them, they should just do porn. Like, there's so many options, like only fans, which by the way, how's your feet finder's thing going? nobody wants to they all want to meet up to rub my feet and that's not an option so so you haven't made any money no they someone wanted to buy my sweaty gym socks but um it's not going too great um they

they're like hey what area are you in can i come rub your feet and it's like no so i should not do that faking sleep is crazy no like so what he fell asleep with his hand in her bra and like is acting like everything's like the the at the point that you are are on a plane and you are fondling each other and groping each other and like stay home and put your porn on porn hub because you will make money doing it. You won't get arrested. Um, and I don't understand. Like I don't under like I don't mind like a little kiss, hug, butt grab as a PDA situation. I don't care that much. But if you're like literally eating each other's face and like fondling each other inside your clothes in a public place.

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Why? I don't know. again, because I saw this at a bar, and that's the reference that I have to, like, relate this to. I'm like, is it because alcohol is involved? Or, like, can you not finger somewhere else? But, like, if you would not pick your nose in this public setting, do not fondle your partner's genitals either in that same public setting. Like, if you would be embarrassed to be caught on camera, digging for gold out of your nose, also don't touch my private parts in that area. How do we feel about couples that go to public bathrooms and fuck? I've never personally experienced it or seen it or done it.

So I don't know, but I read about it in books. Like a lot of the books that I have is like, oh, we went into the bathroom or whatever, specifically the addicted series, if anyone's interested in that. And haunting Adeline also it was in there. I don't know how I feel about that. I think I care less about it. I just don't think. I think it's appropriate. Not really, but like, do I care because I, if I'm not watching it, what the fuck does it have to do with me?

I think it's like people who fantasize about doing stuff like that. Like you have like the mile high club or whatever it's called. Like I don't know anybody who would want to fantasize about fucking in a plane on a bath or in a bathroom on a plane. I think that's one of the most disgusting places that you could possibly be. I avoid the bathroom on a plane at all calls. also two grown adults going into a bathroom in a public place it's got to be a fantasy because why don't you just go the fuck home I agree you know what I mean like but like I have never I've been on a lot of planes in my lifetime and I have never seen an opportunity to go into the bathroom without being caught with like I've traveled with my boyfriends my ex-husband whatever like there's never been a time where I'm like oh we could go into the bathroom and fuck really quick like there has never been that's not something I want to do but also it's like there's never been an opportunity without getting like the flight attendants they're

in the back they're in the front there's people going to see you get up immediately after someone else gets up to go to the bat like we're too old that's why I'm saying it's got to be like a fetish or a fantasy or something because the devious behavior to get to the point to be able to do it. It's got to be like a thrill seeking or something. Maybe. I think you might be right. Never would I go into one of my favorite, like one of my favorite restaurants where I don't really go out to eat that much anymore. I don't know if I told you that, but like pretty much strictly eat all meals at home at this point. I can never imagine going to the restaurant that I like to go and get a little glass of champagne, maybe like on a college football Saturday and have some oysters

and then be like, hey, let's also go to the bathroom and fuck really quick. Like, that's just not, I need to go home. If I'm doing all of that, then just take the party to the house. Honestly, like, if I'm feeling horny, let's go the fuck home. Wait, I have to ask you, I was having this conversation with somebody not too long ago, and I don't want to say, like, how long ago it was because it would give it away. But when you started dating somebody and you felt like it was, like, hot and heavy, what was the first thing that y'all did?

Like was it a date and then you like took it back to the house and then did you immediately have sex or was it like something else? Which particular person are we talking about? I mean, it could be anybody. Just give me like one example of a situation. If I talk about Elijah, we were going out for Bones' birthday and then we were going to fuck when we got home. Like it was an immediate fuck? Yeah. Okay. I love that for you. Mine was not like that.

I have a situation that was also not like that, like would not fuck on the first night kind of deal. Okay. So wait a second. Was that the night she shit on the bench? It was. It was that night. I will never forget the shitting on the bench in a new house. Like still talk about it. They just talked about it last night. They were like, remember when bone pooped in the in the mud room? I'm dead. Okay. So I was dating somebody one time and then like we weren't dating. And then we, like, dated again. But I went to this nice restaurant with this person. And it was just kind of like get to know each other, blah, blah, blah, walked to me to my car, gave a hug, went on my merry way. Then it was like a couple days later, go on a date, come back to the house.

And this person immediately thinks that we're going to be fucking. And I'm like, that is not happening. Like, I am not that girly. I'm trying, I'm like in this phase of like get to know you. And I don't really feel like my vagina needs to get to know your dick right now. Well, if you feel like really hot and heavy like that for someone right away, that's not going to go away. So like you can still take your time and sort of fight the urge a little bit.

And that sexual chemistry or that sexual desire will be there in a week or two or three. Okay. So did I tell you that when I bought this house, I had a. rule, like, I'm not having sex with anybody at this house unless I know they're here to stay. I don't know if you told me that or not. Yeah. Like, I'm so weird about the energy of the situation that when I started dating one person after I moved into this house, I was like, well, yeah, like, it's getting to the point where

we probably should do that and check out, like, if it's going to work out or not, but we're just not doing it here. Okay. Fair. But do you feel like sexual energy can be trapped in a house? I don't know if it can be trapped in a house. I think it can be trapped in a situation. Like, let me give you an example.

Okay, let's say you dated somebody and you had sex at that house and like you had memories, like all the things. And then all of a sudden, like, you're not dating that person. Do you feel like you need to have like a cleansing? Of sorts. Yeah. Yeah, like my... Like I'm not going to go buy a new mattress. I am.

No, I know you are. I'm not going to go buy a new mattress. But yes, I do feel like the space needs to be cleansed a little, yes. I don't know. I just feel like if I was laying on a mattress with one person, that person should not have to be subjected to the other person that I was laying on that mattress with. I'm like really weird about that. So I'm scrolling on TikTok, which I don't do as much as I used to. And I come across a TikTok of this woman who's saying she had to kick out her.

best friend, made of honor, I think it was, or bridesmaid, over $15. And the summary of this. $1,000. I'm going to have Kristen play the TikTok, but for those of you listening who just want the summary, there's a bachelorette in Cabo, 10 girls went, no pressure at all. Bride originally only wanted to go with sisters as she has five sisters, but gave everyone the opportunity to go. Okay.

Love that. No pressure. If you want to go, you're invited. If you don't, that's fine. You don't have the money, whatever. Two girls lived in Texas and the rest in San Diego. We are referring to them as A and K, okay? First night, they went to a nightclub, had to get a bottle service to get into a booth.

Bride wanted to buy the bottle, so they did that. Her sister ended up ordering another bottle and some girls ordered beers, no big deal. Sister texts into group chat the next day to let everyone know the tab was $800 and said everyone needed to Venmo her 80. A and K were bothered by that because they said that they didn't drink a lot. A said that she only had four drinks. drinks from the bottle that night. Bride says she will pay for their portions because she wanted to buy a bottle anyways. A ends up emailing the nightclub for an itemized receipt because she was so bothered by this $80. A and K got it and were obsessing over it all week. Bride was trying

to nip this in the butt as she wanted no drama on her weekend, which I respect and understand and emphasize with. She tells A and K that they need to be on their own separate tabs moving forward. Bride reiterates that she will pay for their portions from night one, but A&K and K and insist that they don't want to be in they don't want this to be a solution like they don't they don't like it on night two everyone is getting ready to go to dinner and then the club bride sees a and k whispering to each other in the mirror as she's doing as she's doing her hair bride heard a say quote we'll just see how we feel after dinner end quote bride asks if a and k are not going out to the club after dinner a says she has a migraine and says her and k will see how they feel after

a is drinking cocktails at dinner which seems off to the bride as a said she had a migraine grain A&K say they're going home after dinner. Everyone else goes to the club, has so much fun. Bride sleeps in a different room that night because she didn't like the weird energy. Fine. Third morning, bride gets a text from A, asking if bride could come to the room to have a talk. A&K sit her down, tell the bride she's a problem. She's making them feel cheap because she offered to pay for them and now they feel uncomfortable in front of the bride's sisters and other friends because she's making them out to be cheap people because of the tab incident. A&K let the bride know that they looked up flights the night before to go home because they are so bothered by this.

Bride tells them that she thinks that they should leave and lets them know they're making her feel uncomfortable on her weekend. A said that she was 50-50 on leaving because she had already paid for the trip, so she wanted to use the Airbnb amenities while the group continued on with their itinerary. A&K say they need to go to breakfast to discuss this full situation. A&K come back, happy as can be, and let the bride know they decided to forget about the incident. Bride decides to squash it.

They have a great time at the end of the trip. A says they do want to contribute and pay for at least one of the bottles from the night club on night one. A says they did the math that it's 65 per person, not 80, which I don't agree with because you also have to tip. They get off their flight home. A scurries off to the bathroom. Bride does not hear from her for three weeks. And I'm assuming this is her best friend because she said that they stopped talking. She only reached out to ask if Bride changed her Amazon password because A is on her account. Bride sends a text back with how she feels and ends the friendship and blocks her immediately.

The bride's friends and family message her a link to Reddit where A made an entire Reddit post about the bride and the bride greenshotted everything and there were 6,000 comments on this Reddit thread telling A that she was the asshole and bride takes it to TikTok to share what happens. We talk about our health a lot on coffee comments podcast. Kail was just giving us an update on hers and we were talking about women's health. Our next sponsor, Roe absolutely just gets it. And I want to take a second to talk about them.

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And when I say wedding, I mean the whole enchilada. I mean the bachelorette party, the bachelor party, whatever that looks like, the bridal shower, the whole nine yards. Stop committing to things that cost you money that you do not have. And yes, it is over $80 or $15, whatever. fuck. If you did not have a $100 cushion to pay for this situation, why are you even going to Cabo to begin with? Or you needed to address before you went to the club or when you were at the club, hey, I want to get a bottle. It's $800. Is everybody comfortable with $80? Is everybody comfortable with $65? Is everybody comfortable? Because if not, it's a communication thing.

But at the point that you are going to Cabo for a bachelorette party, you need to have some money to spend. Like, if you don't have the $80, what are you even there for? I just feel like it boils down to the communication. And I have never been on a trip with girlfriends that I'm not like just split it down the middle or whatever. Like I don't care who orders what, whatever. I feel like it's all going to come out in the wash. Like I'll go places with girlfriends and one of my friends will be like, oh, I'm grabbing this round of drinks. And then I'll grab the next round of drinks, whatever it is. I'm not nickel and diming somebody because I paid $30 for a drink. And they paid $10 for my drink at the next place. I just feel like know your situation, know what situation that you're in and plan and govern yourself accordingly. Right. No, I agree with you. But like it's infuriating. to just, like, I'm thinking about, I know someone who recently went to a wedding, he was the best man,

and I'm like, what did you get as the, like, groom's gift? Mm-hmm. Nothing. Didn't give a wedding gift of money, didn't give a gift card, didn't give anything. You're the literal best man. Mm-hmm. Like, what do you mean? I think this world has become so selfish and people just don't think there is no world where I would end a

friendship over 80 bucks. No, but like, why are these two so bothered over 80 bucks? $80 each, like, again, I cannot say it enough. If you didn't have an extra $100, why are you going? But also, just to bring mention to the Reddit part of this, like, how shitty of a person are you to go on Reddit on, am I the asshole thread, I'm assuming? Like, it was probably something posted in there and be talking about your friend, but shit that you wouldn't be willing to say to them. No, I agree. Why are we using Reddit? for something like that. Also, I just would like to say, like, to your point of like,

my girlfriends will get this tab, I'll get the next one. We went to Salem with Becky, her wife, and then Leah, her wife, Becky's wife, Leah, had her best friend and her man come. We didn't even have a conversation really about it until we were already doing it. It was like, we went out to eat the one time. I covered the tab. We went to the witch's dungeon and then Natasha and her husband paid that tab for everybody. And then we went somewhere else and then Becky and Leah got the tab there. Like, no, it's not even. Like it's not. But like to me, it doesn't, I'm not nickel and diming. And I understand that not everybody is in that situation and that position to not nickel and dime, but like make it clear from the jump. Hey, I would love to cover this. I just don't have the

funds this time. I have to pay for my portion of this because I can't afford to do it. So I have to do separate tabs this time. If you're communicating that clearly and not in a condescending or defensive way, it's never going to be a problem. But if you're waiting until after all is said and done to have a complaint about it, that's a huge deal. But it all boils down to communication because there's never been a time. I mean, I've been on trips with girlfriends and stuff and it's always said, like, there's always a group chat for the trip. And it's like, okay, the room's being split or the condos being split like this amount of ways it's all known like there'll be certain times that I've gone out with certain friends and it's like everybody does separate tabs certain friends

that I go with it's you got this one I get the next one like know your friendship also yep I agree and there are certain friends you can't do that with and that's okay that's okay I'm just not friends with those people okay so we have a listener topic and I want to know how you feel about this with having as many children as you have. This person says that they're only posting anonymously because they know people in the group and absolutely love that. This person says they feel so dumb asking this question,

but my child is in the first grade going on her first field trip. While I can't chaperone because of little brother, would it be wrong to show up and hang out? And is that allowed? This is my kiddo's first time going on one. Please share. I'm just going to say I completely understand the fear of it being your child. first field trip, going off campus, being on a school bus, doing that. But I very much think it takes

away from the experience of the kid. That child being in first grade, all of their peers are in first grade. So I think bringing a younger sibling just like might not be the move. Agreed. I also agree with that. I don't have anything else to add to that. Even though you have so many, you would just be like, no, I'm just going to have to forego. Like, how do you do that as a parent? with so many kids? I don't like chaperoning. You don't want to be responsible for more than what you gave birth to. Yeah.

I don't want to be a chaperone. See, I always sign up to be a chaperone. Jackson's going on a field trip soon and I didn't sign up to be a chaperone for it. Kind of makes me scared, but he's allowed to bring a cell phone on the trip. And I also have him on my iPhone. I am an approved chaperone. I was cleared. I've been a chaperone before I went on one when Lincoln was in kindergarten.

And I did fill out like the paperwork. If they needed me, I would do it. But I already have a really complicated work schedule and I need to be available. Like I have to be able to leave my office by 2.30 every single day, no matter what. In some days when I have, we'll call them the triplets, I have to be, my work day has to be done at a 1130 essentially because by the time I go to pick them up at 12 and then I come back to the office, I got to lead by 2.30 again to go get the kid. Like my work schedule is so the field trips that I do every single day with kids sports and drama and tutoring, I don't need to be on those school field trips. No, I completely get it. I remember Jackson had a field trip. I think it was in kindergarten or first grade and it was to the pumpkin patch. And there were a couple of moms that had brought younger siblings. And I feel like it completely took away from the experience for the other kids. And because those kids were running around, causing disturbance, stuff like that. So for those reasons, I would just say you're going to have to sit out on it.

No, and like, if I go to be a chaperone, like, for example, when I went on that one with Lincoln, when he was in kindergarten, like, I needed that time with him at that time, right? Like, I wanted to spend that time with him and I don't know, like, it just, if I was to go on a field trip now with Lincoln or Lux or Creed, like bringing a sibling would take away from that like sort of undivided it's divided but it's sort of undivided as well yeah i wouldn't want to bring a sibling and i get it like those are the options like i can go be a chaperone and do this with you but i have to bring your sibling i get it but like i don't i don't agree or align necessarily i agree and on that note we have foul play when i was seven months pregnant i hit the absolute

peak of my sex drive i could not get enough of it with my husband he had a nice buzz so i thought we would be able to go rounds. I hopped on and enjoyed round one. I asked him if he could go for round two if I offered back door. This is what I'm saying. Like I thought men loved backdoor. Apparently they don't. He was all for it. Well, I hurry up and apply the anal ease and go to town to start getting him up and going. In the heat of trying and failing, I forgot which hand I used to prep myself and I managed to get some on my mouth and his tecker. Wait, there's a cream that you there is an anal. Oh, wait a minute.

In the heat of trying and failing, I forgot which hand I used to prep myself and I managed to get some of my mouth and his pecker. So I went to bed with a numb mouth and a numb asshole. Praying to God, I didn't shit the bed. Wait a minute. I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know numbing cream for your asshole was a thing. Where do we get that? Well, here's the thing.

And like, I'm not judging. Like, whatever anyone wants to do with their life and their sex life is like their business. If I have to use numbing cream for my asshole, I don't want to do it. I'm just like, is it a good sign that we're not? Um, down there. Isn't his penis going to be numb no matter what if it's in your asshole? That's what I'm thinking, unless you use the anal ease and then, like, wipe it off once it's numb. You know what I'm saying?

But like, I'm thinking if we're using anal ease, that has to go inside your asshole as well. No, but I'm thinking like maybe you just like, like rub it around your asshole but it hurts inside your asshole as well no i know that so like you're only putting it on the like the ring of your ass that's not that hurts that's not inside asshole like the that part of the movement no there's only one person that i feel like you could have anal with that you have been with that wouldn't hurt correct But also my butt cheeks go so deep, I don't even think he'd make it in. Oh, my God.

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