Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Feeling Down, Kinky Airbnbs & Efficient Households

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

CC331: Lindsie gives an update on her relationship and how she's been feeling the last few months. What are your impulse items that you never fail to get? Those checkout aisles will be the end of us! Someone in the Facebook group mentions kinky Airbnbs and it's gonna be a NO from us! Kail wants to know at what age does she allow more flexibility when it comes to letting the kids spend more time at the other parent's house? She shares a recent situation with one of her kids. Another listener asks about how to create a more efficient household in all depts.. Kail and Lindsie share their house rules. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Hello Fresh: Visit HelloFresh.com/convosfree and use code convosfree for FREE breakfast for lifeKiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEENYX Cosmetics: Get your NYX Cosmetics Pro Fix Stick Concealers at your favorite makeup retailerProgressive: Visit progressive.com to learn moreStitch Fix: Try today at StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix

This podcast is presented by NYX Cosmetics Pro Fixed Stick Concealers. I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you. This is Coffee Convows with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kaylin Lindsay. Well, good morning, Kaylin Lowry. Just call me Kaylin from now on. Um, after you, woman. Good morning, Coffee Combo's podcast. I called you Kaylin on one of my Instagram stories

when I posted posted when you told me about twins and people were like, why are you calling her Kailin? And I'm like, I always do. I, it's very personal only like people close to me. I've already said this, but like when MTV put Kailin on 16 pregnant and teen mom, I thought them because I was like, why do Javi and Joe get their nicknames and V gets her nickname? But I don't get mine. And Kailin is so personal to me. Like, unless you're close to me, and I know you, I don't appreciate people calling me that.

Oh my God. You're like, just call me my nickname. Just call me Kail. Just call me Miss Kail. You know what's so weird about nicknames? I don't think I've ever said this before, but when my dad started dating Julie, she would call me Linz, and my dad's like, that's not her name. Her name's Lindsay, and no one calls her that. Linz, like, okay, Todd.

Linz, come down. Yeah, and she would just be like, hey, Lins. And my dad's like, that's not her name. But that's like cute. It would have been like your thing with your stepmom or your mom. Like, because I know you weren't like... And I'm, I was perfectly fine, but it's funny because we would be like off by herself and she would call me up.

But when my dad was around, it was just like Lindsay and it's like, wait, did you just show up, Bri you're in fucking now? Like what's happening? Um, no, literally what is happening. I am in my self-care girl era right now. Um, lots of things have been going on in my personal life. The, the internet is the wildest place to me. And I feel like we don't even have time to breathe

and process stuff that's going on in our own personal life before everybody else is like processing for us. And it's a hard space to be in because you want people to be in the know. But then there are certain things that you don't, it's not that you don't want them to know, but you're like not ready to share. Right. You know?

Oh yeah. And so my mental health has never been worse. I started thinking about you yesterday and remember that advice that you gave coffee combos like many moons ago and you were like, if you're in a really bad place and the only thing you do is like take a shower or do like one thing, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah, I have adopted that, took a shower and washed my hair yesterday, a good hot girl shower because I just feel like I needed it.

I've been just laying in my own misery for days and just genuinely do not feel well. And sometimes you can't pinpoint it, like you don't know where it's coming from or why you feel that way, but it is okay. I mean, sometimes you just have to kind of go through this, but also if you're recognizing that, just be open-minded. I'm not saying you have to get on meds today

or tomorrow, but just be open minded and be, you know, continue to be as self aware as you can, because, you know, sometimes that's where that's, there's like that line where you seem okay, you think you can get through it, but then you might need meds and, you know, other people will recognize it too, especially if you have like good people in your corner. So just keep that in mind. I feel like other people in my life that talked to me like on a daily basis, recognized it before I did and I started becoming like very reclusive and hermity. I've never been like this ever. I've always been able to work through whatever, put on my big girl pants. I mean, you know, even when I was going through my divorce, I never miss an episode of coffee

combos, like just rode through it was okay. This has been a completely different undertaking. And I just feel like everything, I thought that I was getting through everything and processing everything the way that I was supposed to through therapy. But I really think that I was just like stuffing it down and having my therapy sessions and then being okay for like a short period of time and then I wouldn't have therapy the next week until the following week and then I would go through like another regression. This has been going on for roughly 12 or so weeks, I would imagine. Well, I didn't notice that you weren't really texting me, but I just thought maybe because

you were in a relationship and you know when people are in a relationship, sometimes friendships change a little bit. And so I was like, okay, well maybe she's just like letting this blossom a little bit. Or you know, maybe with Jackson and basketball, like you just had your plate full. It came harder for Kristin to get in touch with me. I'm just kind of MIA and it's not like I'm doing anything. It's just like here I am. Don't know what I'm supposed to be doing.

Like don't really, what do I really have to provide to a conversation because I'm just in this shit. And I will be honest, last week, I said on here that I was not, not in a relationship. And that was true at that given time because have you ever been in a state of you were in a relationship but you're not really out of it but you're just like in this limbo phase? Yeah you're just you're not sure if you're gonna get back together or actually break up. Yeah I've definitely been there. Yeah and you don't really want to

speak too soon but there is stuff going. And I did not want the opinions of anyone that was around me or the public to be weighing in on whatever decisions that were made. And so did come to the conclusion that it was best for us to go our separate ways. Dating after divorce and, and dating in your 30s is one of the hardest things that I think that you can do. Dating someone that have children from another marriage is very hard. I very much understand you now when you say I don't date anybody with kids that aren't mine and then you went through that phase where all of my exes are also off limits to me because I'm not even dating them with kids that aren't mine. And then you went through that phase where all of my exes are also

off limits to me because I'm not even dating them with kids that do belong to me. It's just, it's really hard and trying to mesh families and I was so intentional with that relationship from the start. Like I wanted to do everything the right way and I think putting so much pressure on myself to like not mess up did cause problems along the way. And I just wanted an answer for everything. It's like I'm being so intentional about this and then things would just randomly come up. There was somebody in the equation that was not privy to who I was the first two months of the relationship. And then when they became aware of who he was dating, it became problematic all the way up until August, I believe. And I could never shake it because I just don't agree

with like other people being involved in your relationship regardless if you share kids, whatever that looks like. Your personal life should be your personal life and a relationship is a two-party situation, not a three-party situation. And so your opinions about me or what we're doing really don't matter to me. And so it was just the access that was there,

the things that were said, and it all kind of came to a screeching halt when children were told that my child did not have grandparents until he was out of high school and not only did he not have grandparents that were not in high school but to discuss the fact that they were in prison my biggest concern is why are these things being discussed with children that this does not affect because if it's not your kids are younger than my affect because if it's not, your kids are younger than my child. So if it's not going to affect my child

and he doesn't have grandparents until he's out of high school, it's certainly not going to affect yours. So it was just very hurtful. And then it got brought back to Jackson through the children. And no one's ever said anything to him about my parents being in prison. Like our entire community has been so nice about it, been so loving, willing to lend a helping hand

if we need it, praying for us. And that was like my first experience with that. So it very much rubbed me the wrong way. And I think at that point, looking back on it now, I think that's at the point that I mentally checked out. So it's been a while, because I do remember you talking about that situation, which you can't take that back and you can't correct that.

And there's no way, I mean, the amount of like damage control that you would have to do and that, you know, he would have to do in order to like, not even correct that is not fair to anyone. Mm-hmm. I, there are certain things in life. I think that when stuff happens, no matter how much good comes after that, I'm not going to forgive that or forget it because you showed me who you were.

And I just don't want to be tied up in that situation or for people like that that could be imprinting on others to be around my child. Yeah. I mean, well, there's that, what you just described. And then there's also a situation of like, you know, essentially meeting the other parent to correct and the other parent, I mean, the one that you were with needing to correct his children and basically undo that with his own kids because he then would have to explain that

like Lindsay and Jackson are not like, this is not okay for you to like, cause I've had to do that with my kids, you know, like I've had to like, you know, they hear something from the other parent and then I, it just happened last night. And I'm like, it's not okay for this person to be telling you this. You need to worry about you.

You need to worry about what goes on, you know, in your life, in your world and, and not worry about other situations. That's not, those are not things for children to worry about. And so it's, you know, the issue of them telling Jackson and then it's also a separate issue for him to handle that with his kids and how to not do that again in any situation 100% and I just think it's so hard when there's so many people involved. That's not the way that I Know you're not a believer, but that's not the way that God intended He intended for you to raise your kids with a partner that you had your child with and

I think that it's just the consequences of, you know, also my actions, choosing to be divorced and now dating in my 30s and I don't have any bad blood whatsoever. I wish it well, but away from me. And it's okay. Like I'm not, I am processing all of this stuff in an appropriate way, in the most appropriate way that I know how,

but outside of processing that, I am also just focusing on myself. And I said that on my other podcast that it's okay for me to take a breather and say, I need to focus on myself and I said that on my other podcast that it's okay for me to take a breather and say I I need to focus on myself and you focus on my work those things make me happy I need to focus on Jackson and that makes me happy and right now I'm not relationship focused I have other things in life that are more important at this point and I need to tend to those things and what comes

comes and what goes goes and I've had to become comfortable with that. That's all you can do. That's the only thing you can do and I just hope for you that you know this this period of time for you doesn't last too long kind of just making it through you know the separation or breakup whatever whatever you're choosing to call it. I hope that it doesn't last too long, but I hope that you do feel the feelings and don't push it down and don't push them away because you're just gonna set yourself up for feeling it possibly worse later on.

So make sure that if you need to get weekly therapy instead of bi-weekly, do what you gotta do for the healing because it's necessary. And you don't wanna go into this summer with feelings that you could have resolved months ago. Kale, guess what? I am so excited to cook. I've had this meal before from Hello Fresh, the Hoisin Honey Chicken.

And I don't remember you being able to get it with shrimp, but now they have the option where you can get it shrimp or chicken. And it comes with like asparagus and rice and it is so freaking good. Well, that sounds good and I'll eat anything with asparagus and rice. So I love HelloFresh. HelloFresh has really saved the nights, especially on busy nights with us for sports and just kind of ripping and running all over. I absolutely love them.

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In fact, I just don't waste it all because normally if I order, sometimes I'll do like for four and then I'll have stuff for lunch. So I never feel like I'm wasting and the recipes are so good and it just gets you kind of out of your comfort zone and like that meal rut of making the same stuff over and over again, it just like broadened your horizons. You guys can go to hellofresh.com slash combos free and use code combos free for free breakfast for life. One breakfast item per box while subscription is active.

That's free breakfast for life at hellofresh.com slash combos free with code combos free. And I just want to remind you that Hello Fresh is America's number one meal kit. Listen, I can't wait for summer. I feel like I don't know if you're a winter girly or anybody who's listening to this is a winter person. Don't bring the snow here. I'm not looking for it. Not interested. At the point that I feel like I have to wear a snow suit

outside to go on a walk and it's not snowing, it's too damn cold. I hate it. I literally, when I posted the snow the other day for the snow day, I put, I hate it, I hate the snow. I'm not a snow girly, I'm not a winter girly, I'm not a cold girly. I am a would love, warm weather all year round girly. I'm not a winter girly. I'm not a cold girly. I am a would love warm weather all year round girly.

That's what I would. I just had this conversation. I said, in a perfect world, I would live in a climate where it was just hot year round. It was tropical. If I didn't have Jackson, honestly, might pack my shit and move to Mexico. No, I'm not even kidding. Like warm all year round, hot summers, like that would be, that would be a

perfect world for Kale. Um, I have a hair appointment this week and have not had my hair colored. I feel like in so long and yours looks so good right now. So I'm very, very jealous. And do you feel like when you go through? Breakups or like hard things in life and you finally start kind of like coming out of it You're like, okay, I need to go have my brows done. I need to go have my hair, right? Yeah, girl. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got your hair done brows done. Maybe buy a couple new pieces of clothing like

Possibly new shoes. I've been wearing earrings lately. So I mean, yeah, the whole nine earrings. Wait, you don't normally wear them? Well, so I have four holes in my lobes. So I've just been wearing my first, I was wearing just my second holes for some reason. And then I started wearing my first hole and doing like, outfits of the day on Instagram linking all my clothes, because I'm like, you know what, if I want to feel good, I got to, you know, I'm going to help everybody else feel good too because little, little things, you know, I just ordered like a couple of stuff off of Amazon and for anybody who sleeps on Amazon fashion, stop sleeping on it because I feel like it's so good. It's so on trend.

because I feel like it's so good, it's so on trend. My rings are Amazon, my rings are Amazon, so. But that makes me want to ask everybody who's listening to this, what is the one thing that makes you feel naked? Like if you don't have it on, what is the one thing? Oh, I have to wear a necklace. Like I have to. So like if you take a shower and you leave your house and you don't have a necklace on,

that's your point of feeling naked. Yes. Okay, mine is earrings. Like I have the permanent ones in. Oh, with the flat backs that have to be. That's what I had too, but I'm gonna be honest with you, they started to smell really bad. I don't understand that. And so many people, I feel like we've talked about that before and so

many people say that that actually is a thing. But I like with my dial in the shower, I just like when I wash my face, I like rub down my ears too. I think my issue is that I'm allergic to nickel and then allergic to all of that. And I think what's happening is the permanent is that I'm allergic to nickel and then allergic to all of that. And I think what's happening is the permanent ones that I'm getting are still not gold because I noticed that my second holes because they're permanent and they're gold, they don't smell. So I think because I was mixing metals and the other ones weren't gold, that's what happened. Because I also have like all of these up here and they are, they don't stink. But yeah, maybe I'll try gold permanent ones. I need to update you on something. Oh, and I don't know if you saw this

too. But remember how we covered Natalia Grace and we said that something was off about her adoptive parents. Yes. So her adoptive father, Natalia Grace's adoptive father, Antoine Manns, was arrested for conversion. And so I didn't actually know what conversion was. I figured it was like conversion rate, so I was like maybe currency. So he, if you remember correctly, Natalia became his dependent, or I guess he was her guardian in 2013. The pastor pleaded no contest and completed a diversion

after being charged with the intention of returning stolen property. So he is a thief? Yeah, knowingly or was arrested that year for knowingly or intentionally exerting unauthorized control over mousetraps taken from a pay less store in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. Conversion separate from the offense of theft in the state of Indiana applies to situations where the charged person had the intention of returning stolen property. The pastor pleaded no contest and completed a diversion, a diversion, which

included paying a fee of $325 within 65 days and then maintaining good lawful behavior, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He has to do random and random alcohol and drug screenings. And then he has to complete all diversion terms and paying fees in order to like be like done with all of this. But I just thought that that was interesting that like with all of the press coverage and like all of the media attention and just, you know, the growing followings, I would imagine. Um, what do you want to say on your P's and Q's a little bit? Yeah.

I mean, that, that's just insane to me, but I think some people just don't aren't aware. Oh, okay I mean they were very aware of the cameras and the acting that they needed to do. Oh I mean, I know about that, but I'm just saying I think some people just truly lack awareness that when cameras are following you at any point, that anything can come out. So like, why would you put yourself in any situation like that? I'm just confused, like, why he was stealing stuff.

Like was he thinking this was like a borrowing system? Like I'm borrowing from Home Depot or Lowe's and then, but you said Payless? It said Payless on there. And so I was like, I thought Payless is what's done. That's where I got my first jelly shoes. So maybe this was from years ago and it's just coming to light now because

Oh, yeah, it says he was required to appear in court on June 1st, 2015. So he did. Yeah. The mousetraps were taken from a Payless store in 2013. So why are you stealing mousetraps from Payless? Like that, that to me. Why are there mousetraps in Payless at all? And why are you stealing them? Because I why is Payless having mousetraps like that's a bigger issue. You know what I mean? Like if there's it's like, bitch, could you imagine like buying a pair of sneakers or whatever you want to call them tennis use is what I call them. And then you get home and they've just got like mouse holes in them all over like you're at checkout and it's

like, you know, they have like the impulse items at checkout. It's like you're at Payless and it's like mousetraps just like for sale and you're like, why are these here? Wait, are those called impulse items? So I think, don't quote me on this, but I think the way that a store is set up, yes, all the items that are like impulse, they have either register. So like, I think when I was in either high school or college, they say like, when you walk into a store, typically you go to the right.

So certain things are to your right. And then certain things are at the back. So you have to go through all the entire store to get there. And then also the impulse smaller items are at near the register. So I thought that was really interesting. But yeah, like imagine like mouse traps at the impulse smaller items are near the register. So I thought that was really interesting. But yeah, imagine like mouse traps at the impulse area. Like you're like, yeah, you know what? I need these jelly shoes,

but I also need a couple of mouse traps. Like that is the strangest thing ever. Kristen says it's psychology based and Sephora calls theirs cash wrap. Cash wrap? I will tell you the one place that will get me at like the register. And I need to know if other people do this as well.

It's like Sephora and Ulta and Old Navy. I never physically go into an Old Navy because we don't have one close. I never go to Sephora. I started boycotting Sephora when I realized how good Ulta's rewards were. And I was like, whatever I can find at Sephora, I will find something that works for me the same way at Ulta. The Ulta impulse items are so convenient because you'll see like the little, like the travel sizes or the single packs. That's like gets me. Yeah, so like if you see like especially or chapstick stuff

like that that my kid, like I have to have chapstick everywhere for my kids. I love that. And so I feel like Ulta's impulse sections are really good. They're really, really good. I also love in those little impulse sections, if that's what we're calling them. If you want to try like eye gels, but you don't want a whole container of the same brand

because you haven't tried it, they'll have those sitting up there too. So I'll grab just like various different ones. I think I've tried every eye gel that's on the market and I wear them all the time. It's like if I'm feeling down, put on an eye gel. Yeah. No, are those, which ones are those, the patch? These are the Elemis ones. Oh, I love Elemis. I actually have a package from them right now.

Oh my gosh, I hope there's eye gels in there because these eye gels are top notch. I also found this on Amazon that I have been loving my girlfriend had it and mine just came. No, the packaging of that, I was going to ask you what it was when you, when we first started recording because I was like the package, I'm a sucker for acrylic and colorful packaging. What is that?

It's called, well, I have the package right here. Let me show you like how it comes because I've ordered, you know, if you, if you love something you order too. It's called Babe Glow Lip Mask. It comes in a package like this just ordered off of Amazon. It's super affordable and it feels like the I don't know how to say the L one. Leneige, I think. Yeah, that one. It feels just like that. It's unscented and obsessed. I've just been carrying this around everywhere with me and it's like anytime that I feel a little dusty,

I just dip and... I don't know what it is, but my kids, I don't know if it's the weather. My kids have the worst chapped lips, especially crew. I've had bad chapped lips. What is it? Is it the air? I think it's the weather and the air.

It's just been so freaking cold and dry. And then we've had a couple of wet days more recently. And I feel like I'm getting better, but it could just be this lip mask also. Okay, well, I might throw some lip mask on Creed because that poor boy, he has lips were bleeding the other day and I'm like that. I just, it has to be painful,

but you know, kids don't ever give a shit. Throw the lip mask on him. You have me to tell you like the most dangerous thing that I've done in probably the last three days. And I'm only going to go back three days because I've probably done something else like dangerous also. Um, I derma planed my lips. Why did you do that? Myself. Why did you do your lip?

I didn't even tell Chris in this because she would have been like, what the hell are you doing? You don't have hair on your lips, I don't think. No, it's to get off like any dead skin cells, you know, it's like you take that hot girl shower and then you get out and you're looking at yourself and you're like, oh, my face is looking a little bit dusty. So I'm going to dust everything off. So then I get one of those little razors and I always take a new one out every time throw it away after because I'm just like weird about the germs. Do my whole face and in the wintertime I derma plane my lips and I highly recommend like not doing it if you're not good with Kristen Smith's just and said you literally could have sliced your fucking

lips off. No, I'm literally picturing you shaving your lips off like because that doesn't sound good. But but so much comes off and it's just like this is so good for you but I don't recommend anybody else doing it. Like just leave it to me. This is so good for you but don't do it. doing it. Like just leave it to me. This is so good for you. But don't do it.

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The amount of people that sent me messages saying that was the funniest part of the episode when you said they have toes. Like, but they do. And I feel like you can hear them walking. But then I started looking up videos of mice and rats and like how they move. And I'm like, up my phones up like this, like trying to hear if it sounds like walking or if it's like a scurry. And it's like a scurry and like bumping sound more so. But I think that's not their toes.

That's like from like their bodies. What do you mean? Like, like listen. Yeah, but you're not a mouse. So like the thumping is. So like how do you know how they're moving? Well, so one time my mom was dating this guy and I was probably like 12

and I was staying in the guest room at his house and there was there was a mouse like I saw a couple mice. They were rats, they were not mice, they were not little because mice are little. They were probably like, like this, they had like big fat bodies. And I didn't hear them like I could the th I feel like, was their body, like maybe they brushed against the wood, the trim, or something. And so you heard that, but you didn't hear the pitter pattern of their toes. Well, what causes mice versus rats?

Well, so I was wondering the same thing, but rats are definitely like their, first of all, I think they're both really smart or maybe it's just rats that are smart, but I don't know what the difference is. They have to be cousins. Cousins. Like, you know, like alligators and crocodiles are like related or whatever. Yeah, that doesn't mean they're like cousins, Gil. Let me look at it.

It's just like same family, but I don't think it's, I don't think it's like, Oh, like mom, dad, sister, brother, cousin. Are rats and mice cousins? Kale? Yes. Someone's gonna make fun of us. On a genetic level, the mouse and rat should be considered more as cousins than siblings.

They are both descended from a single ancestor species called anagallids, anagallids, anagals. So yes, I, your cousins. Indicted. Indicted. Oh my God. No, and then I have one more thing to tell you and then we can move on. What do we think about me getting a possum as a pet?

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Why? For what? Aren't they like nocturnal? Yeah, but I've been sleeping all the time. So I feel like it would be good. No, because we don't know what type of diseases they carry. We also, what do you do? Can you train them? Like, would you sleep with it? They're not.

I don't think they're very cute. I mean, have you ever seen something that's like so ugly that it's cute? Ray might come try to cook it for barbecue. Listen, though, seriously, have you ever seen something and you're like, that is so ugly, but it's kind of cute. French bulldogs. Yeah, that's true. No one come after you Frenchy owners,

like do not come after us, please. Jackson wants a possum and he calls it opossum. Yeah, is the O silent? I don't know. I feel like it's a trend that all the kids are doing these days and all the kids at his school that he's friends with, they call it opossum. I mean, I take it back.

I'm Googling them. They're kind of cute. They're not cute enough to make me want to have one. What about a sugar glider? Why don't you get him a sugar glider? What's that? There are these like little like creatures and they're cute. They're little. They are in a, I don't know, but Is it like in a cage? Well, yeah, but you take them out. Like you would want to, you would want to like socialize and

like interact with them. But you don't have any like predators in your house. Like you don't have big dogs or cats or anything. So I feel like it would be fine if you take it. Kills troll nicknamed me possum. It looks like a flying squirrel. Very cute. What's not funny, Kristen, I'm not laughing at you. I read all three of them at once. The sugar gliders are very cute. Hold on. I'm really kind of like a flying squirrel. Sort of. Yeah. Um, but they, you have to be careful though, because just like any other animal, like some of them can be mean, some of them can be really sweet, but they do, they fly like they're like gliders. They glide.

Um, I don't know. I just feel like something like that would scare me a little bit. It's a mini, it looks like a possum. Like it literally has this thing. Like a mini possum? Yes, but it has wings kind of, like hold on. I'll keep you guys updated on if we're going to adopt one of these.

Oh my God, that's so cute. They're little. That's so cute. Look at its little ears and its eyes. Yeah, they're really little and so it looks, but they're- And what are those called? Sugar glider. Okay, I feel like-

It's getting more intense. Do you feel like you've seen sugar glider on TikTok before? Oh yeah, yeah, I actually just saw one being saved yesterday that was literally the size of my pinky nail. And then they did like a progression video of it being like, saved and, you know, growing up, I'll send it to you. Send it to me. We have a couple of listener topics from the Facebook group. This is so wild to me.

This person said, I'm sorry, what? Did you know that you can rent kinky Airbnb? This was posted on the local moms group and I'm not okay. It says private adult red room kink cabin. I don't know how I feel about calling it a kink cabin. I also don't know how I feel about like the sanitary, like the sanitization. That's what I'm worried about.

I don't know how I feel about that. And like what type of, is this like a regular cleaning fee or what type, like are you bringing in the hazmat team? What, what's happening? I, you know what, when I was filming for Teen Mom towards the end of like, when we didn't have to, what is it called? Not isolate, when we had quarantine, when we didn't have to quarantine anymore.

We were allowed to start filming as long as everyone wore masks and prior to filming and after filming we had to have our entire house is sanitized with this like sanitizing machine, you would have to do like thorough clean, like the level of thorough cleaning plus sanitization that would have to happen in between this for me to be comfortable would not be worth the amount of money that would you'd have to spend to make, you know what I mean to have it. I don't even like the thoughts of sleeping in a bed where I know somebody else was possibly sexual in it. So the thoughts of going to a known place like that, you might have been kinky at a regular

Airbnb, but like going to a kink cabin, just I don't think that's up my alley. And maybe the thought of it is intriguing because you're like, oh, there's like a sex swing or there's this or that. But for me to do, I don't really like when like our bodily fluids get on our own sheets and then we don't switch the sheets. If we don't switch the sheets, it kind of gives me the heebie-jeebies and it's our own stuff. So yeah, I agree with you on that.

I'm probably not going to go to a cabin. But if somebody else does, please come back to us with a full review. We want to know what the cleanliness was like. We want to know if it was did it look really clean? Was it spotless? Did you see anything that anyone missed? I would really like to know. Remember that show that was on MTV at one point and it was like room Raiders or something and they took the light in there. Like if anyone goes to a kink cabin, please take a black light, also take

videos and then send them to us. But this made me think of something related but like also unrelated in life when you are dating somebody and you know that for example they've had many of people like on that bed. Does it freak you out? Yeah even at hotels I can't think about the fact that so many people have been in a hotel like no I can't think about it it makes me. So I was having a conversation with someone last night and this person was like, I think only girls think like that and like men generally don't. It's like females more so attach,

like if someone's physically been there because they're more emotionally wired, they just want like the space cleared. I'm like, get a new couch, get a new bed. I don't know what it is about men that they just, a lot of them just don't care. Obviously we have the exceptions. I know Isaac is one, he's very like germaphobic.

I don't understand why men don't care. And then I just wonder also, after you've gone through a breakup and you were like in love with the person that you were with, how do you not get the ick? Yeah, like, I think eventually you do at some point, but how do you like disassociate from those things? Like, to me, I don't care how much I'm saving, I'm ridding myself. Like of what?

Like the beds and stuff? Yeah. Well, I never had a problem with that because I'm just like, I guess I don't think about the fact that, like I'm not gonna get rid of a comfortable mattress because of a man. Like maybe not the mattress,

because I also have a zip up protector on it. So it's like, it's fine. I'll just have someone come and do an energy clearing and whatever and wish you away. The sheets more so. I don't think that I could have the same sheet. Like I didn't have the same sheets from like marriage to my next relationship. Like when you go, so does the sheets that we... Okay, so you got new linen to that.

Oh, okay, so I don't give a shit about that. As long as they're bleached and washed, I don't care. That doesn't, that never bothered me. Like I just feel like a sense of guilt and like weirdness. Okay, I mean, I could see that. I could definitely see that. You know, it's like the energy is attached to that. Or like just the memories.

Like if you change those things out or you don't use those sheets again, then you don't necessarily think of the things that were happening with another person on the bed because the sheets were gone kind of. I definitely, I remember that whenever I got divorced. I do remember that like thinking, wow, this is like the bed, but I think once I changed, I I got divorced. I do remember that like thinking, wow, this is like the bed.

But I think once I changed, I painted my room. I also changed the comforters and stuff. And it was just, it felt like a different bed. So, but the sheets themselves, I've never, I guess, I don't think that I've ever, cause sheets are expensive. Sheets are so expensive, but I'm just like, you know what? If you're dating, then maybe, you know, take it for what it's worth.

Maybe just, you know, do those things on Amazon Sheets and keep your, keep your niceties like just for you. Okay. That's fair. I mean, Elijah and I change our sheets almost like every other day. So you do? Not by choice, but between postpartum bleeding, baby spitting up, we don't allow the dogs on the bed, but for

some reason, cats and Buddha get on the bed. And so there's always hair. And so I really have this thing with like, animal hair. I don't want I don't typically I don't care if they're my furniture, but I have to have like lint roller and stuff. But my bed specifically, I want to be the most relaxed as I can't typically I don't care if they're on my furniture, but I have to have like lint roller and stuff But my bed specifically I want to be the most relaxed as I can be I Can not be relaxed if there's hair dog hair like I just can't work at hair even so Baby spit up formula blowouts all of that just change them out. So we have literally like five or six White solid white stuff that we can bleach and then we get all the stains out and the formula and the whatever.

Did you and I go into the white sheets era together? Yeah, because I didn't always use to only do white, but then whenever I don't know if it was like one of our Brooklyn and maybe or Quints, yeah, Brooklyn and I was like, I'm going all white all the time, just because it's easy to sanitize. It's so easy to sanitize. And actually, I had someone come, it's my closet organizer, and that is like the best money spent to have somebody come and help you purge all of your things

that you, for whatever reason, think you need to hold on to, that you're never gonna wear again. So she came over and when she walked in, she was like, Oh my God, it smells so good in here. And I was like, honey, that's called bleach sheets. No, I love it. I always know like a good fresh set of sheets that are bleak. Like I, Alasha put the new down duvet or down comforter or whatever. And I smelled it and I was like, Oh, I was like, I know that smell. It smells so good. I was like, oh, I was like, I know that smell

I was like, I knew it Kale I need to ask you a question about the boys Do you feel like you have a bunch of pants and then they all fit and then they all don't yes That happens in sleeves to on shirts. It is so crazy I just ordered a new fix for Jackson because he's pretty much all out of pants except two. And I'm like, I need to get a fix. He absolutely loves getting these boxes. And I feel like it truly is the best way

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how to style the outfit with other pieces in the fix. And I love that because I'm not super great at putting outfits together. So it's nice to have a visual of each item and how it would look paired together. And then I'm usually pleasantly surprised by the outcome. I just love it. I just view Stitch Fix as the little style partner

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Try today at stitchfix.com slash coffee combos and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your fix. That's stitchfix.com slash coffee combos, stitchfix.com slash coffee combos. I do want to, I need to talk to you about this before we run out of time. What? I need to know from you. Remember years ago, again, back in around the time of the pandemic, I came on here and was basically talking about how, you know, I was wrong on the show on Teen Mom for kind of pressuring Joe to let Isaac decide whose house that he wanted to be at. And I was like, you know what? I agree, like we're adults, we need to make these decisions.

I will say he was also, you know, he was still nine, 10 years old. So I feel like now that he's 14, Lincoln's 10, like at what point do we give more flexibility? Now I'm not saying, don't let them over at their other dad's house Now I'm not saying don't let them over at their other dad's house. I'm not saying, I'm not saying don't let them

at the other parent's house. I'm asking at what point do you give them flexibility to decide, hey, I wanna stay an extra day at mom's house. I wanna stay an extra day at dad's house. Oh, so and so is coming over on a week that I normally wouldn't be there. I'm gonna go to dad's house, things like that. What point do we allow that?

Because I feel like going into high school, to me, now that I've, Joe and I went through this before, and I, you know, I came to the conclusion at the time that he was correct, I apologize to him. And now we're back at a situation where he's going into high school. I don't feel that 50-50, 100% of the time, 50-50 is always going to work out.

So weird that you just brought this up because I just had this conversation about scheduling and choices with kids on the Southern T. And I said, I'm not there yet. So like, I can't really give an honest opinion about something that I'm not currently experiencing. However, I feel like when you do have kids and regular life is going on as it should,

that there are going to have to be adjustments. And at some point when your kids are responsible decision makers on their own, I think that's at the point that both parents that have different households sit down with that child and say, hey, you can't just on a whim do this because mom has a work schedule and dad has a work schedule. But if you have enough foresight and you need, you know, to be responsible in planning, maybe make those decisions before the transition happens, right?

So it's not like, okay, I'm going to mom's and then I'm calling dad and like he's working and mom's working and I'm trying to like shift the schedule. To me, that doesn't really work because you become so accustomed to the schedule being what the schedule is. But I think within reason, everything within reason. So for example, last Monday, my kids didn't have school. It was a holiday, a federal holiday. Same week as Isaac's birthday. And I think because of the schedule that Lincoln and I were on, you know, Hobby was going on

vacation. I was making up my time, and then he, you know, were very flexible with each other. Lincoln and Isaac were kind of just catching up basically from the last two months of us being super flexible with Lincoln. So I texted Joe and I was like, hey, like, I'm not gonna bring Isaac over there. He, you know, I'm gonna keep him.

I said, it's his birthday this week. I'm not gonna see him for over there. He, you know, he, I'm going to keep him. I said, it's his birthday this week. I'm not going to see him for his birthday, um, that kind of thing. I just feel like, you know, he wanted to, I wouldn't have done it if he didn't want to stay. You know, if he was like, I want to go to my dad's today. I would not have kept him. So just things like that where I feel it doesn't make the other person a bad parent. You know, if your child, if your teenager is saying,

oh, I want to stay an extra day or two with this person, that doesn't mean the other parent's a shit parent. It just means that something is going on that's making them want to stay. And two weeks from now, they might want to stay at the other parent's house an extra day or two. I guess there's like this feeling,

at least it feels like for us, for me and Joe specifically, it feels like it's an attack on our parenting. I think that in situations like that, as long as it's reciprocal, like if he wanted to stay with you the two days, then you have to be okay and not upset if he chooses to stay with Joe for the two days. I think that's where it gets sticky. If it's like one parent spending and the other parents not, that's something that I've had to learn. Like what you give, you get. Right.

And that's just it. Our kids do have feelings. They are growing up. And I don't want to use the term broken home, because that just sounds so bad, because you can have a more whole home and it still be broken. If that makes sense. I came from a broken home. My kids are not coming from a broken home. But I think that when people say divorce or you're co-parenting,

the term also broken home is used within that. I don't want to use the word broken home, but when you have a child that's growing up in two different homes, they're also navigating their feelings. You got to look at Isaac, he's 14 years old. So there's like a lot of growing and stuff that's going on right now currently for him. And I think that you just have to be aware of that and understanding of that, of him as a human. It's not about the other parent and it's not about you.

Right, I agree. You know, but if Isaac was like, oh, you know, so-and-so is coming over to my dad's house, like I really want to stay the extra day depending. If I don't have anything going on, there's no reason for me to say no, that doesn't mean I'm a shit parent. And I think that's what it boils down to. No, I think you're, you're right. And I think the flexibility,

if you can do flexibility reasonably, then I think that it's, it's fair and it's good at the point that it is abused one side versus the other, then that's not good. True. And then you always have there, there's always going gonna be a parent who will look at it as abusive power regardless. Oh yes. So, and then you just have to take the good with the bad. And, you know, I told my kids, I'll just be the bad guy. It's fine.

I told, I was like that. I will forever, I will be forever the bad guy. It's like that TikTok of vlogs looks like, am I the problem? Am I the drama? Am I the drama? Yeah. Okay. So this other listener says, what are some things you guys do to help your household run

more efficiently and smoothly? Me and my fiance have three kids, 13, 10 and four. And we have been way too lenient with them about helping out around the house, having some sort of schedule, having chores, etc. I really need my kids to be more independent, have chores, and a better schedule, find a way to get everyone settled earlier so me and my fiance have time together and I'm not up late still trying to do things. I know it's my own fault for not being strict and inconsistent over the years, but things need to change. Also open to suggestions or other things I can be doing to help things run more efficiently. Any tips are greatly appreciated. Do. Okay. First of all, you're going to go on TikTok and you're going to watch this woman. I actually got, I became more regimented. Regimented. I became more structured with this after seeing her videos because I was already kind of doing it. She does a 90 minute reset every single night without flaws. She

will not wait for any of it to be done the next day because she has, I think, five kids. And so her and her husband do everything the night before. That includes getting the dog bowls ready for the next morning. She does all of it the night before and without skipping a beat, she does it. So I'm gonna tell you what her, she actually just commented on a video of mine. I think it's pronounced gene.

G-E-A-N-N-E Marie Fam. They have five kids. They do the nightly reach routine. And I had started adopting that like where I'm getting everything fucking ready for I mean I'm talking down to Creed lunches, water bottles already pre filled breakfast getting ready for the next day making sure everything is good to go so that when I go to bed at night even if I get to bed at 9.30 or 10, I know that I'm not gonna struggle

the same way in the morning. Nothing is more overwhelming than having the level of self-awareness that I should have done all of these things last night. And now I wake up and I'm stressed out and the only person I can blame for being stressed out is myself because I knew I should have done it and I chose not to do it. I think it's all about life choices,

right? Like, do you want to do it now so you can be more comfortable later and that applies to more than just this in life, right? Like, hustle now and be comfortable later. But also getting the kids involved too is it's hard and they might not get it right away, especially if that's not something that you've done, you know, up until this point. So at first, when I was stopping, when I stopped doing everything myself and, you know, Elijah came in the picture and when we started the routines, it was I was getting a lot of pushback. Well, why do I have to do this? Well, why does this person have to do that? Well, I didn't make the mess, but no, but you're in

charge of this because they're in charge of something else, getting them all involved and knowing that it literally will take them five minutes to do what you're asking. Set a timer, that's really something that works, especially for Luxe and Creed's room. If you set a timer, they're wanting to get to get through, you know, the song or the timer before it goes off. And so getting them involved that way, and they'll see how quick it is. And then it relieves stress from you as a parent. It also relieves stress

from them because they're like, okay, I only had to do this small task. You have to, you have to think about age appropriate tasks. I'm not going to ask Isaac and Lincoln to go scrub the showers in my bathroom because I have all kinds of grout and this that in the third, that doesn't make sense for them to do. But could I ask them to go clean their own toilets? Absolutely I can. So one time somebody told me, and I thought it was really genius for people with multiple children to adopt the nail salon method. And a lot of, and I've seen this like being in the nail salon, they will walk around with

like all of the tasks that need to be done for the week. So it's like sweeping or restocking. I don't know, like cotton balls or, you know, whatever it could be, cleaning the bathroom, everybody like pulls out of the thing and that's their job for the week. It doesn't matter who messed it up, how messy it is, you're sweeping the floors every day, Monday through Friday on this week. And then somebody else might have that task next week

and it enforces more of a group effort. It doesn't matter who did what, just clean it up. But why is this called the nail salon method? Is that all business? I don't know. I feel like this is all businesses the nail salon method? It's not all business. I don't know. I feel like this is all businesses. I don't know if it's all businesses or not.

This mom just told me this. She's like, we adopted the nail salon method. Like I don't give a shit. Who messed it up? Who wants to complain about it? Like this is your task for the week. So it doesn't matter. Like I don't care if somebody traips through here in mud.

It's fine. I can't really apply that because I would have like 95 of the tours and Jackson would have one. To be fair, though, he's an only child. So I don't know that you could give him like, what are you going to give him half? Kale, as I was telling you about doing all of my closet cleanouts and stuff. I just need to remind you about how many Kiwico boxes that I have for my rainy days, days that we don't have anything to do, or days that I just want to be technology free. And I pulled out so many to do this weekend. I gifted crates to Creed's classroom because I-

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It makes things so much easier because especially for like Creed, he's three. He's just still learning. Like, I mean, he's finally able to put his own clothes on and do all of that. But like now he needs to learn how to put his clothes inside out because I waited entirely too long for Lux. Just do it when you take them off so that you're not having to go through the hamper again because that's what my kids were doing. They were going to have to go, they would take them off all crazy. And then when you

need to go do laundry, putting them inside out then, well, when you take them off, put them right side out immediately so that you don't have to go back through your dirty clothes. Oh, my laundry room just would look like a cyclone hit it where he's like dropping clothes as he's going to the shower. Socks inside pants underwear like still attached to the pants shirts inside out or still in a sweatshirt. And I'm like, okay, absolutely not. Like number one, why is this not in a hamper?

It's like behind the washing machine. So how is that ever going to get washed? No, we're not doing that. Take your draws out. That's not my job. Like I'm no longer wiping your ass anymore. And I'm no longer peeling your draws from your sweatpants. Well, there you have it. Just do everything the night before as much as you can, even if it takes a couple days to like, or even a week or two to like settle into that. Do what I'm telling you, watch this woman's videos. She will, she narrates the whole video and like talks about it, how everything has a

place, making sure backpacks, lunches, they're all done the night before bowls are filled for animals the night before everything is clean. That way when you wake up in the morning, you literally just grab and go look at that and then she also talks about age appropriate tasks so definitely look at her stuff because she's more like a visual if you're if you're like me I want to see it because it doesn't feel like I can do it until I see it so it sounds good so what we're saying on this podcast sounds good but once you see what she does and she talks about it being 90 minutes that's what she does she never skips. I feel like you'll, and especially if you start watching them more and more, I think there's like that old, old, old marketing thing where it's like, if you see something

seven times, like you start to either buy it or you want to do it, something along those lines. I can't say that that's ever really applied to me in life. But in this situation, I had had enough of the chaos that I was like, I'm going to try this and it worked wonders, especially for having three babies right now. I, we make sure that everything is done the night before. We already pre-filled bottles with water for formula. We already, you know what I mean? Like we've set everything out.

So it's just nice to do everything the night before. I on a future episode of coffee combos, I want to pick your brain for as many kids that you've had through different seasons of life and spanning like so many years, I want to pick your brain on baby products. Oh, okay, that would be fun for me. Yeah, I think it would be so fun. And for the people who are listening who are having kids or buying for baby showers, I just think it would be cool. Okay, so this last question from a listener says, if your family legitimately didn't like your boyfriend partner, would you stay in the relationship and just try to keep your relationship and

family separate? Or would you separate from the other person? I think that there's no right or wrong answer here. I don't think that there's, it would vary by per situation. You can't, for me, if my family doesn't like somebody, oh, f*****g well. I don't see them enough to, with it much thought, you know, like it might bother me a little bit, but I'm going to move on because just like they're moving on from whatever they're doing, I'm going to move on too. But for Elijah, who's super, super, super close with his family, that would be

devastating, I'm sure, or it would cause a lot of issues if his family really cared. I mean, at one point it's unrelated, but his mom said something along the lines of like, we don't have to sleep with you. He does, you know, he has, he has to wake up with you in the morning. And so I do appreciate that mindset, but I think this does vary by situation. I think that so many families and people, friendships get involved in people's relationships and ways that we really need to identify like what your boundaries are in that relationship. Because I don't personally believe that family should be that intimately involved in your marriage or your relationship to have that big of an opinion to make you feel

like you have to choose. I mean, I agree with you. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think that they should ever be that involved, but- And that was the hardest thing for me in my marriage with my dad and Will. Never saw eye to eye. And then it became even harder whenever I had Jackson because now there's a child and then my parents grandchild involved. And I can't tell you the stress and the strain that I felt when holidays would roll around and my parents still lived in Atlanta. And like me walking out the door, leaving my husband behind to try to keep the peace. But it was such a lonely feeling.

Like Jackson and I traveling there and spending time with them and then coming back home, it's like separate lives. I don't think that's fair for any person to be in that position. No, I agree with you. I, I'm, you know, and, and some people don't really like the person at first. And then they warm up to them over time, but that's also kind of, you know and and some people don't really like the person at first and then they warm up to them over time but that's also kind of you know that kind of sucks too because you have to think about the damage that could it be done during that time that they don't like each other and then that

Has an extra layer of you then have to forgive that person for whatever They may have said or done during that time where they didn't like you and you know It's just it's a lot. And so I think the best, like Kristen had said to me the other day when we were talking, she was like, you know, you really, we don't really talk about your relationship. And I, I have truly learned over the years that I do not, I try not to share even, you know, just venting.

I try to keep at a minimum because, you know, we all kind of have, you know, we might they might forgive them or we might be like, okay, I won't judge you. But like, in the back of your mind, you're like, I really don't like that person because of what they did. And I know that you're keeping a record of like, yeah, somebody's wrongs against somebody that you love. And it's not, I don't I think that that's just like a natural instinct thing to do. It's like, okay, remember when that person did this to kill.

So I immediately don't fuck with them. So even if I was to forgive them, you still have that, you know what I mean? It's like, I'm still remembering because when they do the next thing and then you come to me about the next thing, I'm gonna pull out of my Rolodex and be like, hey, do you not

remember when they also did this? Like the math ain't math in here. And you said the Rolodex. Honey, like the brain Rolodex, I'm going to pull it all the way out. And on that note, let's do foul play. Okay. Oh, God, I just read the first line. And I already have something to say. Oh, God. Okay, foul play. My kid got in bed with me while my partner and I were mid 69. I have made it 10 years without getting caught. So the fact that this is the way it went down, I just can't even. So I live

in a cave upstairs. There are two bedrooms in one bathroom. But because of the way the entrance to the bedrooms are, we do not have doors. It's like an angled door frame. Most of the time when we have sex, it's down in the living room. I know not ideal, but that's the way it works. Anyways, I don't particularly enjoy 69, but my partner does it. So it just happens in our bed one night. I do not think that we were being loud about it. But our 10 year old daughter somehow got in a bed

with us. I think she might have been sleepwalking no clue. But this never happens. We had no clue until we felt the pulling of a blanket. Naturally, I jumped up and was like, Oh my God, and ushered her back to bed. My boyfriend basically played dead. Literally just shut his eyes body like a starfish and pretended to sleep. I was laughing hysterically and completely mortified. Luckily, she was basically half asleep still and did not say anything nor brought it up in the morning. I think we got away with it. And I really hope it doesn't

come up in therapy sometime when she's older. I also hope that it doesn't because have you ever been a child and you've seen something and you're like, I don't really know what to say about that. So I'm not going to say anything at all. And you just hold on to that for forever. Cause I still have those memes. My, me walking in on my mom having sex has never come up in therapy, but if you're anything like me, it'll definitely be told on a podcast. So I mean, you know, therapy podcast, same thing.

Um, I need to ask you about 69 though. I'm not a fan. I'm also not. It's just fine. I feel like it's amateur game. We aren't in high school, we're not in college anymore. Why are there grown people out here 69ing? Like do you, and I understand, listen,

like if it's a time issue and two people are trying to, you know, have fun. It's just not fun. I don't think it's fun. I think it's a lot of work. It's an uncomfortable position. I just, I'm not a fan of 69. And like, how do you even concentrate? Like, you have to not have ADD or ADHD if you're participating in that because you can't concentrate on either thing. Yeah, it's just not, it's not for me. It's not for me either.

It's like, okay, just take turns because this ain't it. Right, I agree. And like who wants their butthole like in somebody's face? And who wants somebody's butthole in their face? I don't. I literally said I don't. Okay, next foul play. This person says, when I was in junior, when I was a junior in high school, I started dating my first real boyfriend. He lived in a small neighborhood that was very close. Wow, did I write

this in most every weekend, there was a party somewhere on his road, everyone was at. He also lived in a small house. His bedroom was the only room in the basement semi-separated from the rest of the house. To set the scene, I first need to explain my boyfriend's father. He was terrifying. The most intimidating man that I have ever met, he was a big guy and a man of few words, but you could usually tell what he was thinking by the way he was looking at you. Honestly, I'm most terrified of people like that. One afternoon, my boyfriend

and I were getting it on in his room. Oh, wow. I would never be brave enough to do this. Unbeknownst to all of us, the neighbors were upstairs having a few drinks after a work week. We finished and my boyfriend tossed the use condom into the trash can near his bed. A few minutes later, we hear a roar of laughter in large footsteps making their way on top of the basement steps, his dad. Oh, shit, I would, at this point, I would have passed away so they wouldn't need to call the ambulance. He started yelling for my boyfriend

to get his ass upstairs right now and take care of this. My boyfriend's filthy dog had snuck into his bedroom, pulled the use condom out of the trash can carried it upstairs and dropped it in the middle of the living room for the entire neighborhood to gawk at I was horrified. If there were a window, I would have crawled out of it. Fast forward 15 years later, we're married with a three year old and a nine month and nine month old twins. My father-in-law

passed at 45 from a hell of a fight with colon cancer and he was never able to meet our kids. My husband and I often joke about him this story, what's coming our way when our boys become teens? I love you ladies and listen every week. It's a one bit of me time I get with all the chaos, three under three brings. Wow, do you relate to that? The chaos of three under three? Well, I have three one and under. So that's cool. So yeah, no, I can relate to that part of it, but.

Are you not most terrified of people like she's describing that that dad was like, someone who you know is like a man of few words or a woman of few words but you can just sense like all the energy from their presence and the look on their face. Yes. I say at the time I would rather be cussed out and you tell me everything than me feel like that. Yeah no and I don't have a good poker face allegedly. I was told within the last couple weeks, I do not have a good poker face. But I would rather someone tell me exactly what they're thinking than to give me to just, yeah, to wear

everything on their face because then you have to decipher and put the pieces together. And then it's awkward. Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, I don't like that at all. I'm glad that you guys made it past the condom saga of your life and that you have multiple children. Shout out to twin moms. Glad that I'm not one, but support those who are. Are we watching Dr. Ted season two next week? I've already watched it, so I'll wait for your thoughts so we can talk about it.

I'm gonna watch it. From my understanding, it follows a different doctor, right? Mm hmm. And Mandy Morris in season two. Oh, then I'm gonna love it because I love everything. I didn't know how good of an actress she is. She's fantastic.

Did you not watch her in a walk to remember and also this is us? Well, I never saw this is us, but also the a walk to remember, I feel like it's so old that I don't, I didn't, I don't remember it. I definitely saw parts of it. If not the whole thing, I think just parts of it. Um, so I, I, and I was so young. Um, but now that I've seen her in this, I'm like, okay, I need to go back and watch the stuff that she's in because she's, she is fantastic.

I feel like I need you and Elijah to watch this is us. That's what Kristen said. Kristen was like, you have to I think I feel like you'll need to watch it together. Back when I was married, Will and I watched it for the first time and I'm rewatching it right now again by myself. And I said to him, I was like, Why is this so fucking sad? And like, why do I cry so much? And why do I have so many happy moments watching this? And he said, Lindsay, it's like emotional porn. Lindsay Lohan Interesting.

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