Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Football Moms, United Co-parenting & the Perfect Wife

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

CC366: Lindsie is calling all football moms to send her help because she was not prepared to deal with the new trends and equipment of football parents. Kail wants to know how co-parents put up a united front with their kids when sometimes parenting styles don't line up or not agreed with. Kail gets into the Perfect Wife hulu series and Lindsie is upset at the Delaware school nurse who gave a student medication that was not theirs. Today's Foul Plays involve putting things in your bra and forgetting to hide naughty videos on your laptop.    Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsor!  Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a placeBetter Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthIQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000. By Texting 64000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from IQBAR. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply, available at IQBAR.com. Reply "STOP" to stop, "HELP" for helpProgressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn moreStitch Fix: Get started today at StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos and get $20 off your first fix

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. Good morning and welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast bitches. It is 8am here in Arizona. Wait, are we both in beds? We're both in beds. I'm in a hotel bed. You're in your own bed. And it's 8am here and I had I didn't have time to order room service. So my breakfast is chips.

Oh, gross. Okay. Are you the type of person that can eat like non breakfast food during breakfast hours? Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of breakfast food. So like I could eat a cheeseburger for breakfast and it wouldn't phase me. So I was just having a conversation with one of my friend's husband. He was like telling me about their daughter and that she loves to go to Chick-fil-A for breakfast in the mornings. But they order her chicken

minis and she only eats the nuggets out of it. And I was like, you do realize that you can get like nuggets without the bread in the morning, right? And he was like, No, that's, that's something new unlocked for me. I also didn't know that I truly was like, googling what time does in and out open because I would have eaten that for breakfast at 8am. You can eat that that early and be fine. I don't care. Also, I already had a meeting before this at 7am and I was like, okay, do

I order food now and then like eat it on the meeting or like do I eat it during coffee? Like I didn't know what was going on. so I just quickly I used the little bar in this hotel room and what's so funny is on that mini bar the mini bar has condoms a box of condoms and then also a vibrator in a box wait what yes ma'am a vibrator in the box like what if you have children and they go in this room well the mini bar has a vibrator in case you forgot yours. Um, speaking of vibrators, dangalangs and shit, I was on the phone with my son this morning. Me too.

And we're always on the phone with our sons. So Jackson asked me at seven o'clock this morning, mind you, he goes, so like how did you and dad make me? Oh, good. Okay. So we're having a birds and the bees conversation at what is it? What time is it over there? Like nine a.m.?

No, it was seven when this conversation happened. And I said, I don't know what to tell you. We prayed for you and you came. Oh, Suzy, enough with the dramatics. Okay. And so I text Will after I knew he had had him dropped off at school because I was like, I don't want Jackson to see the text message come up. And I said, why was he asking how we made him? He said, because I told him that he needed a haircut and that was my hair decide

that I could decide what to do with it. I told him that I made him. He said, how? I said, don't ask me how I did it. It was hard. Oh my God. No, he, no, he did not. And I said, wasn't hard. Like I didn't pick up on the pun. You never saw that trend. Don't ask me how I did it. I just did it. It was hard. But he meant like he was hard. Oh, so I said, wasn't hard. And he goes something was I said your dick he goes your nips.

What is wrong with Willard? Like, are we okay? Okay, I need to know from everybody who's listening to this that has children old enough to have birds and the bees conversation like how how I don't really think there's an easy way to do it. And I also don't love the idea of like sitting your kid down to have that conversation. I feel like just start trying to figure out

how you're going to explain it to your child. And when they ask questions, then you can kind of start the dialogue because it is so weird to like think about like having a family meeting and like rounding everybody up and like having a sit down conversation about it with which they're maybe not prepared for. And so I, my kids have asked me questions on the fly and I will explain it to them on their level of understanding. But like I can't imagine like, like sort of like what you're describing with Jackson and will it's like,

I mean, I asked my mom where babies come from also and she said you pray really hard. So I love it. I'm with Susie. Susie was like, I don't really know how to say this. Um, so I don't know. I Jackson's also a lot younger. Is that ultimately why you got pregnant at 17? I, yeah, I must've been praying for it. Yeah. So I was, I it. I was.

I know it was planned. It was like a manifestation and you were like, God, or whoever you are, bring me Isaac. And it happened. That's exactly what it was. You didn't have sex with Joe ever. Never. It was an immaculate. What is it called? An immaculate conception? Accurate conception. Um, outside of that, I also need to hear from all football moms. If they're okay. Because I can't beef with you. No one set me up for success. No one. What does that mean?

Including you. Well, first of all, you didn't even tell me. I only found out after the fact that you were doing football for Jackson. So I couldn't have set you up. Okay. Well, you know, like a list of what I need would have been nice. Oh, yeah, like a whole sports mom situation. I do basketball really well. My outfits are great. My shoes don't get dirty. I'm in the AC. You need muck boots for football. You need a bog bag

because things will get wet when it rains. A poncho. Also, when it starts to get cold, you should consider getting one of those pod tents that you can sit in or unless you're going to sit in your car, that's also fine. And then you should get a bench seat, like bleachers, like with the cushion. If you think that I'm setting up a tent Um, if you think that I'm setting up a tent for anything, I'm not. Okay, got it. An umbrella is about the best that it's going to get. The amount of people setting up tents and bringing like camping chairs and like these large coolers like I was drink mom this week and I brought my little backpack cooler with

like the drinks in it No, these people had full-blown like We're going to a tailgate type Coolers know you're out of your fucking mind because I didn't sign up for all that part Also, why didn't anybody alert me that I needed a Ryobi like fan because They had them all out there. They had they had handheld Ryobi fans and I sat and sweated my ass off. I'm not familiar with your weather in the summertime, but I guess that makes sense.

Also get prepared. I don't know what you're saying. Is this through the school? You told me this already. It's like through the school, but like not. It's like Pop Warner type vibe. Yeah, it's like county. so our football programs if they are like peewee or like, Junior Leagues, it's always associated with like your local high school. But it's through the county. Yeah, so ours, that's like Pop Warner, I think I'm going to send you the link for the bleachers chair with like the

cushion and stuff. And then also make sure you have like a good Stanley or something that you can drink cold drinks out of. I the bleachers chair with like the cushion and stuff. And then also make sure you have like a good Stanley or something that you can drink cold drinks out of. I know several moms, I never did it, but I do know several moms who put alcohol in them for those that need a midday. Pick me up. Pick me up if you will.

But I'm gonna send you, I'll actually, I'll just write it down to send it to you later, but. Please send me a whole lot. Also something that I've never seen before, and I want to know if other people do this. Will and I saw a mom literally poking holes in like the box like this part of their kids shirts, like this part, she was poking holes and putting like a carabiner through it with a little Ziploc baggie and was

putting ear tags in it. On her kids clothes? Yeah. Like a hole in the bottom of the shirt and then she put a carabiner through the hole and the ear tag was in like a, it wasn't like a Ziploc. It was, you know, like one of those bags that if it gets wet, it's fine. So she did this for her kids, like sports stuff or what? Like while we were at the football complex,

there's like multiple fields and her kids were running around. So she did that and put air tags on them. Okay, so first of all, anyone who's listening to this, I'm gonna put together a full list for like football mom stuff. I'm also gonna put, it could be also work for lacrosse and probably soccer as well. So I'll put together

a list of that, but I have a question about the air tag thing because I thought and correct me if I'm wrong, it only gives you the general vicinity. It doesn't give you the exact location of the item. So you would still have to like look for it once you found it, if that makes sense. Well, the item was her children. Oh, the person. Oh, okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. So this is not like, okay, he's taking off his sports stuff and he's leaving it somewhere and she's trying to find the item because I don't think that the air tag would work that way. Yeah, no, this was on like moving children, multiple moving children.

Got it. Okay. So I think what would be really cool is for a brand, and please just credit me if you do this, for a brand to start doing small pockets with zippers that you can fit in AirTag. That would like jackets for the winter, maybe sweatshirts should have them on the inside or something. Because even though you can put them in a pocket, it could fall out. So I'm that's why I'm saying like a zipper situation on the inside. That would be really cool. But I never thought about air tagging

my children, I should do that. But will made a great point. He was like, okay, let's say there's like an abductor here, they're going to remove it, they're going to remove that air tag and you're going to go to the location thinking that's your children but it's actually just like on the ground. Well that's why I'm saying to do a zipper pocket and then an abductor won't know that that's there right away. That's the whole point of an air tag I think is that it's kind of like disguised.

I've seen people like cut their shoes and put them in there. I think we talked about this before. But I think like a little pocket with a zipper on the inside of clothing, or a shoe makes the most sense. Because if someone's abducting a child, and they just are moving really quickly, they're not removing clothes right off the bat. So I think that's going to take some time. We'll give them a little bit of time to like see the last location. Do you know what I mean?

For sure. But I was like, yeah, you're totally right. If there was, if she's doing this for the safety of her kids, like to know exactly where they are, that's one thing. But if you think it's gonna prevent a kidnapping, it's not. No, it might buy a little bit of time. I don't know.

Maybe my ex- Have you ever heard the stories about people like throwing air tags in like an ex's car or something? I put a tracker on my ex's car. You did? Yeah. I also sent that was before air tags came out. And then I also sent his location to my phone and then deleted the thread so he couldn't see it. Eventually he found out but

So is this how you caught cheating? Yeah. So you knew exactly where he was. Correct, and I physically went there. Oh, and you busted him, you pulled a me. I didn't, I actually didn't, cause I was like, I don't need, like first of all, I don't need to get beat up right now, but I knew where he was, so.

So let me just, let me pick your brain for a second. You ordered an AirTag, or you went to Apple and you picked this up. For what? No, like was this just like a random AirTag that was like laying around and you used that one, or you like specifically ordered that AirTag for this? For what, the car?

Yeah. No, this was before air tags were a thing. I ordered a car, like a tracker to put on his car. It was like a square thing that you like stick to their car. But where did you stick it? Under one of his tires, like near like up. Good bye. No, you didn't.

No. No, you didn't. How did you, how did you get that close to his car? I have so many questions. How were you that close to his car and had that much time to stick it without him knowing it was getting stuck? He was at my house. And so while he was busy doing something, I went outside and stuck it on the car.

You're shitting me. No. And how long from the time that you put that on the car? Did you like expose his cheating? I will. So when I started asking questions and like saying that I knew what he was up to, he quickly caught on that like, oh, this crazy ass bitch must have a tracker on me and went out and looked for it and found it. We're like, weest one by a tracker.

I went off Amazon. Oh, so this is who meditated. Now they have airtags. Now they have airtags. So that was probably, like, would that be considered stalking? Like, could I go to jail? I don't, well, I don't think you're going to jail because it's probably past the statute of limitations at this point.

Well, so he really didn't super fight with me about that car tracker. The time that I sent the location to my phone, and then swiped it away on his threads. Yeah, when he found out like I'm talking like, way after the fact found out like weeks and weeks. He literally told me that that was a good job. He was like, wow, like that was I'm impressed. Like it probably turned him on. No, probably not.

He probably was like, Oh my god, this girl is so down for me. We ordered a tracker and plastered it on my car. Like, I'm going to her house right now. I swear men do like a little bit of crazy. Some some like a little bit of crazy. I know one that does that I'm very willard. Would that be will hurt himself? It might be it might be will himself. It's like you want normalcy. But you also like a little spice thrown in there. Yeah, see, Elijah and I don't do anything crazy. Like not at all. I mean, he might say that I'm crazy, but like true. Like I'm not putting trackers on his shit. Like I'm not

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that keeps you away from your house? Uh-huh. I was on the phone with Kristin going over my house stuff and I was like, how's Kale like, is everything good with Kale? And she was like, yeah, her dryerers just like blown out. And I was like, Oh, god, her dryer is blown out. And she tells me, she tells me that best fire or whatever comes to replace it,

and they replace the wrong one. And when I tell you, I have not stopped howling. Since I heard it, it is so typical of something that would happen to you. So so not stopped howling since I heard it. It is so typical of something that would happen to you. So so let me get this correct. You are on your little lake trip. Your dryer has been broken for how long? God, I don't even know how long truthfully. Okay, so your dryers broken and they deliver said dryer while you're gone. Yeah.

And that dryer that they took was the wrong dryer, the one that wasn't broken. Correct. Also, I was telling and I told Chris and I was like, what's the likelihood of them still having the non broke dryer? She was like, Oh, absolutely zero. So come to find out. So Elijah is so mellow and fucking casual about every fucking thing in his life. Don't come to me without a solution. Okay. Do not come to me and tell me any fucking amount of drama with no solution because I'm not in that era of my life anymore. So I'm

bathing the twins. Okay. I'm sitting, I have a my life anymore. So I'm bathing the twins. Okay, I'm sitting, I have a little ottoman that I keep in the bathroom now to like sit on, to like bathe them. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, they're playing and whatever. And he comes in and he casually is talking about how the wrong dryer was replaced.

Like nonchalantly, no inflection in his voice, like nothing. And I looked at him and I said, please don't fucking talk to me. Please do not fucking talk to me. Because now I'm pissed off. You're coming to me as if I knew. And as if this is a casual conversation. I said, So now I need you to please get out of the bathroom before I lose my fucking mind. So he

tells me that they actually were not supposed to deliver the said dryer until the following week. So it was not prepared for that this was going to be delivered. I get a call while I'm freaking late and they're like, hey, the delivery is here. Like, do you, what do you want them to do? And I said, well, take away the old dryer that doesn't work and replace it with a new one. Well, Holloway is not on here.

I said, great, just leave it and we'll hook it up when we get back. That was how it was left. That was when I where is the dryer? When I hung up the phone was left at we're leaving the old dryer, we're leaving the new dryer, and we'll come pick up the old dryer at a later date. Great. Awesome. Love that. Thank you so much. Where's the dryer?

Which one? The one that wasn't broken but was replaced. Where's that one? Somewhere in the abyss. So it did get hauled away. It got hauled away. The new one was installed in place of the one that was working and the old dryer, the dryer that does not work upstairs still doesn't work.

Oh, I got it. I actually forgot about that. Elijah was like, I said, you might as well have not even told me because y'all were supposed to handle this. This doesn't have anything to do with me. So now you guys can correct it and let me know how that works out. And Kristen goes, and this is why I say when you think something is bad in your life, ask Kale. She actually did say that she was like, if you think that you're frustrated right now, Kale's working dryer got replaced with a working dryer. I'm like, wait, what? This cannot be real. Oh my God, so speaking of dryers, so in my new house, I have a downstairs,

like hookup situation, and then an upstairs hookup situation. I only had one washer and dryer from my old house, so I brought that over, put it downstairs. Okay. Jackson and I started smelling this, like foul, weird smell upstairs for for days but like neither of us said anything. I don't know if he thought I should and I thought

he should. So this like washer dryer situation is kind of between our bathrooms. Okay. So I was like, maybe you just took like a massive dump and it stinks like really bad. And then I would just like pass by and then not go back there and then I would smell it again like the next day. Did you know if you don't have it like hooked up and that part of like the hookup gets dry that it'll start stinking? Wait, what do you mean? It smelled like sulfur or like an open sewage line is what it smelled like. And what part wasn't connected? None of the parts are connected because I only I haven't even gotten to

the point of like getting another washer and dryer like that's probably the last thing on my list to do because I just don't really need it. It'll be nice to have it but I've got way more shit to worry about like specifically, I have one little end table that I'm using right now and a bed. But wait, what smells like I'm lost. now and a bed. But wait, what smells? Like I'm lost. The like line where you plug in like for your washer.

If it gets dried out and there's like no moisture there, you will smell, I would describe the smell as like sewage. Like raw, raw sewage smell. I don't know, I called my friend's husband and he came over here and he like doused some water on there and he was like, it's not dry anymore, so you won't smell it. And I swear to God, I haven't smelled it since. But like, should there not be a cap

for those kinds of things? Yeah, but like, how do you keep moisture there so that it doesn't stink? I don't know, but if I start smelling that foul smell again, I'm just gonna go and douse that entire fucking room with water and hopefully that it goes away because I don't even know what hole he put it in. Oh my god. Oh, what the fuck is actually happening? Okay, so I know we talk a lot about parenting and I saw

this article on parents.com and thought it would be really great for us to talk about. The title of this article says, should you criticize a friend's parenting and Reddit experts sound off? Reddit experts is crazy. The fact that we're calling anybody on Reddit experts and this is on parents.com, I don't know if that was kind of like a slight to them not being experts and they were just being funny. I think that's probably what it was.

But this article says, if you're a parent, it's likely not news to you that it's a tough gig and important one, but a challenging one nonetheless. What happens when your parenting approaches clash with friends? What about if you're not a parent, but let your friends bring their kids over and their child does something that hurts you or someone in your family? A Redditor recently encountered a situation

when a friend's child threw her partner's wedding ring out of the window. She understandably got upset, but wanted to know if she handled it correctly. Commenters gave a resounding yes, but the mental health experts we spoke to offer a more layered response, and they also share tips,

what to do if you find yourself in this sticky spot. In a quote, it says, "'It is important to have strategies "'for managing undesirable behavior in children "'because these strategies can help prevent situations "'from escalating and teach children about consequences, "'respect, and empathy.'. That's what a licensed psychologist and certified school psychologist in Pennsylvania said. In both home and external environments, clear boundaries and consistent

responses help children understand what is expected of them promoting a sense of security and aiding in their social development. But who is responsible for setting those boundaries? A friend, a host, a team effort, let's talk about it. In your opinion, what do you think? This one's tough because I don't, I can't think of a time that I ever criticize someone's parenting to their faces or like said anything to them.

Obviously might have my own thoughts in my head, but like it just has never felt like my place to say something. I also have never experienced a child doing something so extreme as like throwing a wedding band out the window. Like I just have never experienced a child like that. So I also don't know what that's like. I don't know.

I don't know. I think that we have to like dial down whenever we're parenting, what things hold like important significance to us and the way that children think things don't hold that same significance to them. So that child coming into a home, let's just say I was married and I had a wedding ring laying around number one. Why do I have that wedding ring laying around knowing that I have guests coming over? Like why isn't it somewhere safe? I think we're all probably guilty if you've ever been married before

Like sliding your ring off and it might be on a coffee table or it might be in your kitchen Like near where you do your dishes like whatever but that wedding ring is significant to you the Significance to the child that was touching, playing or throwing that ring, the significance is not the same. So would I be upset? Yes, but at the same time, I would also be more upset with myself

that something that I treasured was just left for anybody to do anything with. So I think you have to look at it that way too. I would never parent another child unless I knew that other parent very well and I knew that they were comfortable with me like remedying some issue with their child. So to your point though, I definitely agree with you. Like there have been times where I have been like so frustrated and mad at myself or just not even child related, but just doing something that I'm like, oh, wow, I was so careless to do that.

Right. Like to your point, why would I leave that out while a child is coming over and I'm having guests over? But at the same time, I'm also thinking that and if this has ever happened, tell me now, like not you, but like anyone listening, if my kids have ever done something at someone's house that I wasn't aware of, my kids don't touch other people's stuff

when we go to their house. So like, I guess it goes back to the whole thing of like, you can't expect people to have the same heart that you have. You can't expect other people's children to not touch stuff. I don't know because I've never had that. I've never had my kids touching shit that doesn't belong to them. So like, that's really hard for me. Like what is going on that? I don't know.

I don't that's such a weird. I don't, I definitely don't parent other people's kids. Like I'm not going to tell them what to do. Like I might say something along the lines of like, oh wait, you need to ask your mom or something like that. The only time that I'm ever comfortable fastly parenting somebody else's child is if I see danger. You are about to get hurt and your parents are nowhere around. I'm going to say, hey, it might not be a good idea to do that.

Yeah. Okay. But I'm going to say, Hey, it might not be a good idea to do that. Yeah. Okay. That's I'm going to leave it. I'm going to leave it at that. If that was my child, the approach would be a lot more harsh. And I'd be like, what the hell are you doing? This show is brought to you by better help. We've talked about a lot of things on these episodes, but we don't want it to get lost in the sauce that we highly recommend therapy through better help. We love therapy over here at CoffeeCarmus podcast. We've talked about it for years. And with the back to school season becoming so busy and fall sports about to start again, we just

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even then I tread pretty lightly. Like I don't want to ever offend her. I don't want to offend the kids like I don't. Um, there was a situation where I you know, the kid, one of the children was was flipping out at his mom and she had walked away to go to the bathroom and I said to him, don't treat your mom like that. She cares a lot about you and she does a lot for you and how you're treating her isn't nice. He got even more mad. Then when she sat down next to me, she's like, what happened? I didn't think that he was more mad because I said that. So when I told her, she's like, oh, that's why he was mad.

And I think at that point, I realized that maybe I overstepped because I made him more. I didn't know that me telling him not to treat his mom like that would upset him even further. And I'm sure that was frustrating for her because she probably could have handled it. Maybe she would have handled it differently. That's like the only- So it's interesting once you also become a co-parent on the parenting aspect and remedying situations, because oftentimes if Will and I are in the same place, but it's like his parenting day, I'm going to let him do the parenting on that day. Really?

Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about that because I don't know that I operate that way. Yeah. Let's just say, I'll give you a prime example yesterday. Was so busy, had to take Jackson's stuff like for football, the pads, helmets, cleats, whatever over to his house. And I was like, I'll be over there before practice.

And I walk in and there's an issue that's going on. And Jackson is, mom, tell dad this, but we're all in the same room, okay? And Will's like, you need to tell him this. And I'm like, no, what you need to do is you need to be the child in this house and your dad needs to be the adult in this house. This is not my house.

So I'm not parenting you in this house. That is so interesting to me. Do you feel like that creates something that would not look like a united front though? No, because I think we've had a lot of struggle. I don't know if it's partially being an only child, being a boy. The struggle has been he has more freedoms at my house and I'm more of a gentle pander with natural consequence

and Will is a lot more firm with him. So we've already had that struggle. So to maintain my parenting at my house and his parenting at his house, I don't feel like it's fair for me to cross that line, even if I'm present. Like what I would do at my house might not necessarily be what he does. And the united front comes in by me backing his decision. Okay. So it's really interesting that you brought that up because I also recently had a situation with one of my co-parents and I said, hey, can you say something to our child?

And immediately when he said something to the child, it was not a United Front. It was one of the situations where it was like, your mom. And it's like, no, that's not, I get what you're saying. You had Will's back in his house and how he does things. So while you not might not parent that way, you're keeping the United Front in, in a way that is like, okay, privately, you don't necessarily parent that way, but you're going to have his back in front of Jackson. So I feel like that should, you should have each other's back is, is the, the United Front. He like sent me the screenshot of what he said.

And I'm thinking to myself, like you did really- We also don't do screenshots. No, no, no, no, he didn't send the screen, he didn't do a screenshot to our child. He sent me a screenshot of what he said. Will and I don't, we put Jackson in a group message, so anything that we are collectively addressing and it's

over a message, it's going to all three of us at the same time. Your mom messaged me. Why did you do that? You didn't have to do all that. You didn't have to say that your mom- I'm intrigued. Your mom messaged me. Remember when I say, do your best to have fun and make the best of it? Can you do that for us while you're at the lake? But why did you have to say, your mom messaged me? Why couldn't you just say, you need to do your best and whatever, whatever? Why did you have to say, your mom messaged me? Yeah. I think that probably was a miss. And if it was going to be like that, I'm going

to go back to my statement about the group message. If you guys are collectively addressing your child on an issue, then it should be a collective addressing versus he said, she said, because then I think that that gets super messy. Like I don't have parenting or co-parenting completely figured out, but I know the things that have worked for us and we've worked really, really hard to try to maintain a united front. And it's been really hard to maintain when

we both have such different parenting styles, but it just eliminates the back and forth when you're all privy to the conversation. That makes sense to me. I don't know how that would work for us being as though one of us, one of the dads only will do email and then the other one we talk through a parenting app. So I don't know. And that's hard. If my ex husband told me that we can only email, okay, well, I'm not answering your emails. So no, because you're now creating chaos in my life. And we can't coexist like

that for a long period of time. To me, that's not possible. That's what I was about to say. It has worked while it's worked, but now I feel that right now we're in a place where it has worked for long enough to serve its purpose. But to your point about texting in a group, I do think that that would be more, I'm never going to cross that line with him. He's never going to cross that line with me. We've established that.

There are times where I need an urgent answer or he needs an urgent answer and he's emailing me. I don't have my email notifications on because I get 10,000 emails a day. I just can't. And so if you need an urgent answer, so this is where it gets frustrating is that he'll need an urgent answer and he will call me. But when I do the same to him, it's do not call me, do not text me. And it's like, but I need an urgent answer. Okay, well email me. But then you're not doing that. You'll

literally call me. Yeah. And it has to be a two way street. Like what is expected out of one should be expected out of the other. And quite frankly, I already know where this issue stems from. And that other person should have been aware that he had a child with someone else before that person. And it is a detriment to that child to not allow the parents to effectively communicate with boundaries. I wouldn't even know how to approach it because I had said something a while ago, probably a couple months ago at this point, that I was like, okay, I think that we can go back to texting on an as needed basis.

And he was like, absolutely not. So then don't pick up the phone and call. You're going to get the dial tone. Don't ever send me a text. Nothing is ever an emergency then. Like, let's really put this shit into perspective. If you're sending me an email, that tells me that it's not an emergency. That's true. So then figure out your emergent stuff on your own because it is standard procedure for emails to be answered within a certain amount of business days. I think, like I said in the beginning of this conversation, it definitely worked while it works.

Like when we were setting precedents for like what we're going to be talking about, what we're going to do, like what the boundaries are, I think it worked really well. And so if anyone's in a weird place like limbo and like there's boundaries that have been crossed or whatever that looks like Email serves that purpose right but like to your point. I think now that there's like another He has a cell phone And you know it just and there should never be a time And and I will fully stick my neck out there and say this there should never be a time Where your child is having to communicate for two adults.

If you need to say something to him and he needs to say something to you, then you need to say something to each other. A child should never have to say, well, my dad said, or my mom said, no, I'm about to pick up the phone because I'm about to find out. You know what?

Don't even get me fucking started on the my dad said, because let me tell you something, a completely different situation on a weekly fucking basis. Every single time my kids come home, it's my dad said this, well, my dad said, well, my dad said, well, my dad said, and I said, okay, well, I'll talk to your dad. Okay, and I'll talk to your dad,

and I will talk to your dad, and I'll call your dad. There, I'm so sick of my small children doing that, because I don't do that over there. I also don't run back to him and tell him every fucking thing that my kids tell me happen over there. If it's not an immediate threat to their safety or their lives, I'm not bringing it up because it's not fucking worth the argument.

For some reason, every- But that's growth. That's growth. And that's the fucking worth the argument. For some reason, everything. But that's growth. That's growth. And that's the difference in that situation. Like you have grown. I'll fucking write it down for a later date. Oh, you're noticing. I absolutely put the date that my kid said what it is

and I write it down. I don't need to bring every single, and then it was, you know, the same conversation. It was, you know, so and so said this and I said, okay, and if you think that I don't know what goes on over at your house based on what my kids tell me, do you know what this man said to me? They don't tell you shit. Oh, okay.

So because I don't say anything, I haven't said anything for over a year now. Now it's because I don't know anything. It must be nice to live in ignorance. Ignorance is bliss, sweetie. I know a lot of people. If you really think that, because I, a long time ago, decided to choose my battles and not put certain things on the internet and not talk about certain things on the internet, specifically Instagram, I guess that means that I don't know anything anymore. Ignorance is bliss and a lot of people live there. Remember that. Instagram. I guess that means that I don't know anything anymore. No, it's just not worth bringing up.

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That's convos to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply, see terms for details. Speaking of unreliable husband and wives, did you watch The Perfect Wife on Hulu? I've not had an opportunity to watch The Perfect Wife. To be perfectly honest, I forgot about it. I watched this weekend, my entire weekend watch was Betrayal, season one and season two on Hulu.

It sounds familiar. The first case was in my actual county, and I wanna do a whole deep dive into the situation. I told Kristen that I was talking to one of Jackson's mom friends and she works in the county where this teacher worked on the show. And she was like, Oh, he was actually in my department. I can give you a lot of like, back end information on it. And I was like, okay, next time I record, I'm telling kale to watch

betrayal. So it's an actual it's a podcast and they made it into a series. What is the case about? Hold on. It's on Hulu. It was a case about this husband and wife. And he ended up getting charged with sexual assault of a student. And I guess, and I never knew this, I learned this from this, like, it was a three part, I think the first one was a three part episodes,

and then the second one was three or four episodes, and it was a like completely different case. I saw this, I watched this already. You did? Yeah. Okay, so did you know that even if a student is of an age to be able to consent that teachers like can't use that as a defense to try to get out of something because they

consented? Yeah, because it's a student you can't it's sort of like, you know how like co workers aren't like a higher up in a job isn't supposed to like have relations with like somebody beneath them. Yeah, in terms of like the job ladder. I think it's similar to that. But like, also, I think it creates liability. But I watched this whole thing. And I was sick over this because she truly had no fucking clue. Like she had no idea what was going on. And then like reconnected with him at a later date.

Yeah, I watched all of this. And I think I knew that. I didn't know it was like, you can't use it as a defense, but I still knew that you couldn't like, you couldn't have relations with a student. You're not supposed to have relations with a student. Well, I know a situation, it wasn't on any type of documentary,

but this happened last year at a local middle school, that one of the higher ups in the school, like a higher position, so let's say like a vice principal, a principal, something in like admin, they had an affair with a teacher and completely lost their job because there is a hierarchy in the school system that someone of that higher power cannot be engaging with teachers on staff.

They lost their job. I mean, that makes sense because it probably creates a lot of internal conflict. And also with this, like the students can't know about that. That's like crazy. Although I have heard from my teacher friends that scandalous things occur under the really, like sex in classrooms, the whole nine. Can we get some like blind items from your friends to like, Oh, sure. I'm gonna ask for permission. Like, can I tell

this story? I would love to tell this story. Okay, so please tell me about Perfect Wife. I want to get into like longer conversation about betrayal because I think that there's a lot of like key things that I picked up on both different stories that I just like want to talk about. So it's not going to be this episode. It'll have to be like not our next recording, but the following.. So the perfect wife is a husband and wife, they have two kids, wife goes out on a run, she gets abducted, and she's gone for, I

think it was like three weeks or something. And she comes back and you know, she was released and she was had like chains and marks and burns and all kinds of shit that was like, I definitely knew kind of early on, I'm like, something is not right, but could she have done a branded burn on her own back? Could she have done that? I don't know, it just seemed a little far-fetched, but she was very off, she couldn't remember

what seemed to be details that you should remember. Obviously, trauma can do crazy things to people, but long story short, it comes out that she was, in fact, not abducted. She faked the whole thing. She went to go live with her boyfriend in another state, I think it was. Why? Yes. And through this whole time, the husband was like trying to believe her. He said the first time that he saw her in the hospital room after she was like released or whatever, he said he could tell by the look on her face that she was lying.

But then throughout like the rest of the investigation process, it was sort of like, he started to believe her, like tried to believe her and didn't want to come off as like insensitive. Like she had been through this like insane trauma. Like what, what right do I have to like not believe her and not sit through her through this with her? But she also would have these like extreme reactions and feelings about certain things because she said that the women that abducted her, first of all, it was two women, they were Hispanic women. She like was repulsed all of a sudden by like all Hispanic cultural things like food, smells,

all kinds, like just very bizarre stuff, just to find out that she stayed with her boyfriend, her ex-boyfriend ended up coming forward and being like, she had me do all of this, had, she had him brand her, like with a hot iron on her back or whatever, and then like released her and it all came out that she was like, but I don't. It was really frustrating because I'm like,

the husband, I could tell that he had nothing to do with this, but what was the purpose of going to these lengths? I think that my whole thought process was, what did she think was going to happen when she came forth? Did she not not think it through about like, coming back and like, what was the end game? Remember that girl what state was she in that she like, it was like a complete kidnapping hoax that you and I talked about not too long ago. It was like that but this woman was married with children. I forget what it was but situations like that that we've talked about in the past. I don't understand

if there's got to be some type of mental illness that would have to be involved in doing something like that to convince yourself that you are going to convince other people that that actually happened. So I do think that there's mentally something going on that's not connecting upstairs or maybe like a sense of being delusional, I guess. No way could even my ex-husband fucking plan that he was abducted and I'm not gonna get to the bottom of it. Like, no, I will know that you were in Cancun, Mexico

doing whatever the hell that you were doing. And you tried to bamboozle me, but I can't be bamboozled. What is the end game? There was one scene where the husband is talking about all, like they had guests over at the house and they were all talking about where they were when they found out that she was released and found alive or whatever. And he said it was like such a bizarre feeling. It felt off. It felt very weird. And so, but she was like eating it

up. Like the wife was like eating it up. And I'm just like, what, first of all, how did, I guess, because it was like a remote area with no like CCTV, like they didn't, she didn't get abducted near like businesses and stuff. It was like kind of like on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere. Nobody would have seen anything like suspicious. But like, when your boyfriend who you're staying with saw all of this on the news and stuff and like realized, oh shit, she's in my house. What prevented him from coming forward and then what ultimately led him to come forward and be like, no, like she had me because I think she was convinced

that he was never gonna tell on her. Again, I think this goes back to some type of mental illness living in some type of fictitious world. I don't understand if you just want to fucking cheat. Just be like, I don't want to be with you anymore. And now I'm going to open up my life from like this day forward to do whatever it is that I want to do. Like, why can't it be that easy? Because the amount of chaos that is involved in creating like all of these stories and the lies that somebody would have to tell what you're explaining seems like very elaborate detailed lies that never even existed. Did

she not think that she was going to get caught with her boyfriend with living children and a husband? I really think that if that man, if the boyfriend, the ex boyfriend, if he never came forward, I don't think that she would have been caught. Because I think the investigation would have just kind of led to nowhere. And like there was nowhere it was going because they did like a composite or whatever it's called facial composite. And it was just one of those things where I think if he never came forward, I don't

think that she they might have had their suspicions, but I don't think that they would ever have solid proof until he came forward. So what was the deciding factor for him to come forward? Maybe he started getting scared or maybe it was a situation of he just knew it was wrong. I can't imagine, like there's nobody that I could call right now and be like, hey, I need to fake my own kidnapping really quick. Can you come pick me up? I can't think of one. If you called me and said that, I would call the nearest mental institute and be like,

you guys go and pick her up. Like what kind of loyalty did he have to her that he was going to even try to do this? Well, you know, sex does weird things to people. And you know, maybe he was just very much enjoying that aspect of their life and it was like crazy. You gotta consider like doing something like that. If people are operating, there are certain people in this world

that like are operating off of adrenaline. Like they do stuff that creates this crazy adrenaline and they're like, okay, like this is a purpose to live. I just can't like literally you could have told your husband that you needed to go away for a little while because you were having some like, emotional and like mental issues. And like I need to be go check in somewhere and I'll be back and like, I don't know, like that just feels so and like, I don't know, like

that just feels so or like, I don't know, just be like, I need, I need time to like, get my thoughts in order and I'll be back when I'm back. And I just, I was a little disappointed at the end because I wanted to know what the relationship was between her and her children after that, because he has full custody of his kids. So I want to know what the relationship was. I don't know how, as a parent, you would trust someone like that with their children ever again. Well, as he should have full custody of them because any court that would not deem her mentally deranged

to plan your own kidnapping or abduction or whatever you want to call it, and you just like jet set off and leave your kids, something ain't right. And the risk, I guess I would be afraid I wonder if she has like, what do they call like supervised visits or whatever? Because my fear would be okay, if she had the ability to go off and like, do a hoax like that, what if she takes my kids and

really goes in my a? Yeah, no, that would be something I can't even imagine. Like, truthfully, like when I had surgery in Miami in 2016, I was crying about missing my kids for a week. Like I think I was there for 10 days and every single day I was crying about it. You could not pay me to like put on this like huge fucking hoax and like leave my kids for three fucking weeks and then be like, someone abducted me. Like what? leave my kids for three fucking weeks and then be like, someone abducted me. Like what? All right, let's talk about Stitch Fix really quick because Stitch Fix sends styles so good that you can feel it and they deliver all the confidence. It comes straight to your

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Also speaking of unfucking hinged, there was a Delaware school, a Delaware school nurse that was giving the wrong student medication for five weeks. Wait, what? How, how does that happen? A wrong name. It was like a similar name, but it was wrong. And she had been giving it to the student for five weeks. And the student never said anything.

It wasn't until the nurse called to say that he needed a refill. And she's like, my son doesn't take medication. And so when she asked the student when he got home, the mom asked her son, he said that he didn't say anything because he like it helped him focus or whatever. So like it was working. So he didn't say anything. Could you imagine? Well, is that is that two lawsuits? Because you have one that should be medicated and isn, and probably is unaware that her child is not being medicated for five weeks.

And then the other one that is being medicated and didn't need to be medicated. What is that? I'm going to assume this was probably ADHD or ADD medication. There are very strict laws with that type of medication, I know, because I have it and you can only get those refills every 30 days. I think it's considered a controlled substance. I might be wrong. But the fact that she was administering that to a child that it did not belong to, that's

probably a felony, if I had to guess. I also think it's a miss on the school part because I was trying to think back on the paperwork that you have to fill out, like, on the online portals and stuff for school now that everything's online. I'm pretty sure that you have to, like, mark on there if your child gets medication.

So, like, why wasn't that looked at, like, the student's profile to the administering of the med? Y'all, this is insane. I sawing of the med. Y'all, this is insane. I saw this on FB. There was no way that I was not going to share this with you all. I got a story for y'all. On Monday, I received a phone call from my son's school,

the nurse saying that my son only had two P-I-L-L-S left and he needed a refill. I told the nurse that she had the wrong Kevin and told her that my son did not take any medication. My son is a junior like Kevin blank junior. I'm not going to put his last name on here. She says, Oh, well disregard the email that I sent. I got home from work and something told me to ask my son if he was getting medication

at school. And he said, yes, it's for me to hear better and focus. I lost it. I took him to the hospital and the doctor did a urine sample and a blood sample. My son tested positive for Adderall. The nurse gave my son another child's medication for five weeks. Y'all, what in the world? She tagged Delaware online and ABC News.

Her profile shows that she is from Delaware. I was reading through the comments trying to find more information. She told someone the nurse admitted to only verifying my son by name. He was replying to someone who had asked a few questions right here. She said, my son is six. He'd been given the medication every day for five weeks. I do not have any information other than that,

but I had to show that because it ain't no way. Like, that nurse 100% needs to be held accountable. Like that is insane to me. Okay, so you know how I was saying about verifying from like the portal or whatever, like is your child on medication, you have to fill out like that whole thing. Why was that not verified through the school nurses, like portal? No, I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was. I think that the nurse was negligent and did not. When you, like I don't know if you remember when you had a baby, every time they came to give you

meds, you had to tell them your birth date and you had to say, you know, whatever it was. And they like pulled up your chart. I truly just think the nurse was negligent and didn't do those things. Like you're only, Oh, what is your name? Kevin. That's all you're asking. You're not saying when is your birthday? What medic? Like there was no further. But also I don't know about your kids, but if my child went to school and ever got meds like at the school, because this has happened before where like it's marked that he can get Tylenol or like Advil, but also marked for a phone call before anything's administered.

Like there's multiple things that you can check on there. Mine doesn't have that. I just filled out Isaac's and it doesn't have like call home prior to, I know for a fact, like Lux and Creed can both swallow pills. So like they can both, I give them sometimes it's chewables or tech,

sometimes it's liquid and sometimes it's like swallowable, like you have to swallow pills. So like they can both I give them sometimes it's chewable Zyrtec, sometimes it's liquid and sometimes it's like swallowable, like you have to swallow it. And there that Lux and Creed's four years old and they can swallow pills. I honestly don't think that they would question it. Seven and four years old. I don't think that they would come home and say I got medicine at the doctor. I think they know that they get Zyrtec every day. So they wouldn't think twice about coming home and telling me. That's so scary. There are some kids who are ADHD or ADD that have to get a dose while at school. Okay.

Jackson takes his medicine in the morning and so there should never be any type of dosing that's going on from the school nurse. I'm giving it to him in the morning, Will's giving it to him in the morning. With a Tylenol or Advil, I still want to call home because why is he in there that he needs that? So please give me a call so I know exactly what he's getting because also, depending on what time he's getting that medicine, if he comes home and he just had that like two hours ago and he's still saying he's had a headache, I need to know that before I give more Tylenol or Advil or whatever. If my child got somebody else's ADD or ADHD medication, I would lose my fucking mind because you also have to consider what is the age of that child, the height, the weight, how that's going to metabolize

in their body. Like, wait, is Adderall, does that go by the dosage of, is it the dosage? They always do. When you take your child, if they have ADD or ADHD, they have to go to the doctor every six months, I think, for a height and weight check, and then they do a check with the child and a check with you on if you've noticed any differences, whatever, because that medication

can metabolize in the body for everybody differently. And so they're very diligent on making sure that the child's not losing weight, that their height isn't being like stunted or anything like that off of that type of medication. Most doctors I know you cannot get a refill unless you have brought your child in to do that. So my question would be if my child was getting that type of medicine that was not diagnosed or it wasn't just like a med mix up where they were getting somebody else's med but it was the same med, like what if that did something to my child? They also check like their heart rate and stuff because it can speed up.

Yeah. So it says, um, this is on good RX health, three to five years old. The starting dosage is 2.5 milligrams daily in the morning. If needed, your child's prescriber may increase their daily dose by an additional 2.5 milligrams every week. So depending on height and weight, I'm sure that plays a factor. Six years and older, the starting dosage is 5 milligrams once or twice daily. See, that's all information that is the way, and there's a lot of stuff on here. So if you guys go to GoodRx, you can find I'm sure you can just like Google it too, but I Can't believe that that happened let alone in Delaware. So I was like I have to tell Lindsey about this Well, there is one thing that like I have to tell you about before we go because it's very relevant to your past life

And it's about MTV's catfish host Neve says he's lucky to be here after sustaining neck injury and a bike accident. Did you see this? Neve, Neve, whatever his name is. Yeah. Did you ever watch catfish? I did not know this happened. Yeah. So it says from CNN that he fractured his neck in a bike accident last week, and that was according to an Instagram post. It was posted by his verified account that he was hit by a truck riding his bike

to pick up his son from school on August 5th. He said that he was alone on impact, me and the truck, and I guess the pavement. I was alone and unconscious and then conscious. He didn't specify in his post where the accident occurred, but he said the care he received at the hospital in New York was remarkable. CNN reached out to the police department for additional information. The crash left him unable to pick up his son, one of the three children he shares with his

wife, and he suffered fractures to vertebrae in his neck and added that he was not paralyzed. So I'm looking at his Instagram right now. I truly had no idea that this happened. It says, trigger warning, the following slides contain images of medical trauma and severe injury. If this stuff is unsettling, I totally understand. Please don't swipe.

And if you want to read my story instead with no pictures, it's all in the caption. So someone from the school left him a voicemail that says, Hi, Laura, my name is Samantha. I'm calling from the blank school. It was just curious to see if someone was on their way to pick up their child. Can you please call us back? So he never even made it to the school. And then it's a picture, the following slide is a picture of him in the hospital bed laying down with a neck brace and then broken neck injury x-rays. And then it looks like he got a surgery maybe. And then he is like, the nurses are helping him to walk. So it said on this article, my hands were a question mark there for a minute, but the human body is incredible and so are humans.

What you're saying, he shared several images showing his injuries and the recovery in the hospital via social media. He said, it was hard to feel sorry for myself when I hear doctors saying about how many people with similar injuries never walk again. You know, honestly, it has been a fear of mine for a long time post divorce, being in this house by myself.

If something happened to me and I couldn't get to Jackson and I don't have any accountability partner whatsoever, what would happen? That's absolutely terrifying that he was on his way to a school to pick up his kid, didn't get his kid and he's just probably in a ditch or on the side of the road. Well, what's really interesting too, he shows a video of the

helmet. And the helmet actually has like one crack in the front. The helmet probably actually prevented a lot of maybe even a death, right? Because that was his neck. But the helmet doesn't prevent neck injury, which is so scary to think about. So like, Oh, I didn't even think about that. Like we think so much about protecting our head from brain, like from like a, what is it called? Major head injury or something, but we don't even think about our necks.

Oh God. Something happened to your neck. You can be done. I mean, my mom's sister died because I mean, it just snapped right back. And it wasn't the head and it was in the neck. What happened to your mom's sister? She was killed by a drunk driver. Oh my god, and it snapped her neck. She ended when she was on life support for a little while. And then they ended up doing whatever they chose to do. But I, we

just don't think about the neck part. And that's so scary. I thought when it said riding my bike, I thought it was like a pedal bike, like a bicycle. Wait, was it not? I don't know because this is the helmet and it looks like a motorcycle bike maybe. I mean like a motorcycle. I don't know. I don't know. Wow.

Well, I'm praying for him. I hope that he makes a full recovery and I hope that he gets to return to MTV soon. On that note, we have foul play. The first one is I was out doing different stuff on a warm day. Like what kind of different stuff? I went in and purchased a candy bar.

So I was eating a little bit of it and then I was going to look around this business but the candy bar had to be put away. So instead of wrapping it up and putting it in a bag, I covered it and stuck it in my bra. I was thinking people put money and cigarettes in their bras so a candy bar was likely okay. Now I'd forgotten about this candy bar. A few hours later this brown stuff was showing up on my clothes So I went into the bathroom and found the candy bar had melted So I got topless proper in a girl bathroom was working on cleaning up my mess Three teen girls came in seen the mess and wondered what happened. I think that they laughed for a while

I could not put my bra back on so I went braless and bagged it I went into the store for something to drink. One of the teens was working at this place still laughing at me. I paid for my drink. And I went home. Do you know the amount of things that I've heard people saying that they put in their bras and specifically, I had a conversation with somebody last week that they had an airplane bottle of vodka in their bra. Oh, that doesn't shock me. Actually, that's like one of the

less exciting things. I had someone Oh, I mean, I haven't really heard anything. But like, I hear like I see it so regularly. I don't really think anything of it. I even had someone recently, I think it was at the lake, she pulled a little bottle of fireball out of her bra. And I just like didn't think anything of it. Oh, I think things of it all the time. We, we weren't allowed to do that whenever we were growing up, like my dad would have quite literally, I mean, we don't say

kill on here, but severely harm if we would have ever pulled like money or anything out of our bra, that would have been a big issue. I don't really use my bra as a pocket. Like I just don't also. I'm so apprehensive to eat chocolate anywhere other than home because somehow some way little tiny crumbs of it like if I eat like a Snickers bar, for example, somehow little crumbs of chocolate will melt on me or on my clothes and I'm like what I didn't even get this on me. How did this, I thought that maybe it was just me,

but maybe other people experience the same. Listen, I'm not trying to judge anybody by any means, but we know that chocolate melts. And if you're putting it in your bra next to something that sweats on your body, it's likely going to melt. So probably like not the greatest idea. The next one says a little background. My husband and my friend's husband were both Marines. And at one point, my

husband was stationed in Japan for a year. I flew out to visit him for a month. And it was during that time that we made a few videos for ourselves. No one else was supposed to see them. I had a concert on my laptop we all wanted to watch. So my friend and her husband invited us over to their house. I handed off my laptop and my friend's husband connected it to their 65 inch TV. And like it's supposed to, my computer screen then displayed on their TV. I know where this is going.

He asked me where the concert was and I told him about the videos folder. Well, in the videos folder was another folder also labeled videos, except those videos were the naughty videos. He wasn't paying super close attention and missed that the concert was right there and instead double clicked on the second videos folder. And before I could even get out a no, there they were in all their extra large thumbnail glory. My friend's husband screamed and dove off to the side. My friend was dying of laughter. My husband was just sitting there sipping his tea completely unbothered. And I'm scrambling to get up off the sofa and shut the laptop. I

felt like absolutely disappearing and remembering and remember telling my husband well I guess I'm moving to Canada now. And thankfully my friend took it in stride and we laugh about it to this day. That's, that's a nightmare. I don't know if there's anything more embarrassing than that. I don't want anyone to ever see me have sex like that is so personal. I don't want someone to watch it. I don't want

someone to accidentally stumble upon it. I don't want any like, I just can't. I was just talking about something on the southern tea yesterday whenever I recorded and it was actually about sex videos. And like, I just don't understand them. Like, what do you need them for? Like, why? Are you just sitting there like watching them at Target parking lot? Like, what are you doing with them? I don't know, like maybe getting off to them, potentially, like

especially get off to each other. Well, different time, like they're on a completely different time zone. So maybe that wasn't possible. And so like they made the movies for him maybe so that like he could do it. But also, maybe they're like trophies to some people like you know, some people collect panties. Like that makes me even more alarmed. Yeah, I mean, it is unsettling. You know, that that is a very unsettling feeling knowing, okay, my vagina became a trophy to you. And now you have all of this like memorabilia.

Yeah, that is weird. I know this is not a Jersey. This is not a trophy. No, it is but it's not yours Well, could you imagine like finding out that your ex like saved all this stuff from you? Yeah Why are you trying to play with me like that I'm so sick of you. I'm so I'm so sick of you. Okay, listen, ladies Scott Peterson docuseries on Peacock airs 820 and we will be discussing that on our 829 episode. So make sure you watch because we definitely will be. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the

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