Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Ghosting My Social Media

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

CC293: Lindsie has been picking fights with her siblings, and both her and Kail would like you to know that yes they are in fact ghosting everyone on social media.. especially on the weekends. Kail pr...epares for her trip in her camper and she's lowkey freaking out. Lindsie wants to know how everyone does foreplay and if it's as important to others. A video on blending families strikes an interesting conversation on how Kail had to navigate her divorce and Lindsie shares her experience with trying to blend familes when she was dating Suburban Dad.For Foul Play - does it smell like rank baby vomit in here or is it just Lindsie reliving her car cleaning days?   Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more!  Thank you to our sponsors!IQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000Kiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEEQuince: Discover the affordable luxury you deserve, go to Quince.com/coffee to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your field scale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I'm just not with the faker anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Happy Birthday to you to Suzy. Today is Suzy's birthday. Happy birthday Suzy. First of all, people, I'm not going to say all people. Some people were upset at you calling her Busy Suzy. Yeah, I know. I saw I read comments that were like it really shows your character during that you call your mom, Suzy Suzy. First of all, I didn't come up with that nickname. Second of all, she probably at this point in her life, she probably accepts it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And honestly, it's probably the nicest out of all of the names that we could have called her because she did met. So like we could her, methe, Suzy. We don't know when I saw this comment. I said, you know what, if you don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime. Facts, that's like I will forever be someone that has multiple baby daddies and can't close my legs. That's my legacy. Like Suzy's legacy is her drugs of joy.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It's like, she's okay. Can I give you to sing Happy Birthday to your mother? Well, I did. That was me singing, that's as far as it goes. But you just said Happy Birthday. Yeah, that's all I got at me. No, you have a voice, so I need to know. No, you're it.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I can't. I can't. You can. I can't. I'm you good. You can't right now. Listen, I had Chrisso Kristen did her magic in locating Susie Q. And shut up, we found her. She found me as if I'm involved. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I'm beknownst to me, my mom has so many aliases and I always thought that was so funny. Like when you're filling out paperwork or like taxes or any of that stuff and it's like aliases like or like sage names, I sometimes I think when I started going by kale, I would put kale loury just in case, my mom put every variation of spelling and last name combination of Suzanne Lowry, Suzanne Irwin, Suzanne, whatever her husband's last name is. And I was just dumbfounded. It was literally like four pages long. I know someone like this that has done this
Starting point is 00:02:41 and I can't give away the person's name because if I started to spell it then people would be able to like figure out the name but it's a name that has multiple different spellings so like there might be like a pH or like something like that you know. And their aliases is all the ways to spell that name. And it's like, first of all, that's not fucking you. So like, why are you trying to bamboozle all of these people? Like that is not you. Yeah, people with multiple aliases really freak me out.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Like it freaks me out to know that like I could technically go by like Lindsey Brooke Chrisley, Lindsey Brooke Campbell, like all the different variations with all the same. Yeah. That freaks me out. Well, and like can other people do that? Because government didn't say you could do that. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'm pretty sure we just like decided to start doing it. That's scary. That's like that girl Lexi Trivizo, her mom. I was like watching TikTok deep dives on her and her family. And her mom has like a hundred aliases too. What's that song where it's like, I still do fraud, private jets, would the...
Starting point is 00:03:59 Do you know that song? I never heard that, no. God, okay, well, and I just need to let you guys know. If you're seeing this, if you see my nipples, mind your business. It's a little blurry for me, but it'll come out clear later. I don't see your nipples.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Lindsay, what the fuck is the drama going on with your siblings? First of all, where did you see that? On your Instagram. Tell me what you saw. And I'm not, I know if I'm thinking about you. Was it a Q&A? I think it was a Q&A.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. And I'm like, and you'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure. Why, why do you all fight like this? First of all, everybody be blocking everybody. So that's number one. Like, get everybody. First of all, I didn't even do anything to anybody at one time and then somehow I got blocked
Starting point is 00:04:58 on Todd Chrisley's Instagram and then he told me that I blocked him and I'm like bro, like I'm looking at my block list and you ain't there. So like figure out your own shit. Yeah, he blocked me and had to go like all the way to the top of Instagram to figure out how to get me off because I was blocked for so fucking long. So like I didn't start that war,
Starting point is 00:05:19 I didn't start the blocking game. I just feel like, you know, if people are just going to like skis on you and stuff and be upset by show you post, then they just didn't see it. Is this what it's like for all siblings? Because I just, okay, I just feel like it's exhausting. I actually was in a group chat with one of my girlfriends and her husband last night and she was like, I totally can relate to this. She was like, I saw your story today and laugh because I do that shit all the time
Starting point is 00:05:51 with my siblings and family group texts. I leave it like once a month. And then I got all of these messages from other people saying that they do it to their family group texts as well, but then they're the same people who block or the same people who asked to be out in Beckett. Yeah, always. It's the same people who block or the same people who ask to be out in Beckett. Yeah, always. It's the same, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But what I don't understand is like, you got, it's not like this is like a cheating scandal, like between significant others and you don't want the other person to see or get caught. Like you guys are siblings. What the fuck do you do? You don't care what Chase and Savannah are doing. They don't care what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:06:23 We just be pennies to petty spaghetti all the time. We were raised like that. We were raised to fight each other and... So you guys are like bait of fish on land? Essentially, yes. And I mean, everything's fine. It was just like a funny thing for me to do. I was like, ha ha, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I can't, I'm not good at it. I got you first. Like, I got you before you got me because it honestly this is the real deal. Okay. Had I not been the blocker, I would have been blocked. So I heard to be the petitioner than the defendant. Yes, exactly. So that's what that's what happened. I saw this like most hilarious thing on Facebook right before we got on here and I was like first of all, I need to tell Kiel this because she's gonna 100% agree. It says, do your Victoria Secret make the Gucci part on the panties figure? This ain't no 22. I got a
Starting point is 00:07:15 whole block sign that P customer. That's like the episode of the Kardashians when Chloe and Courtney and Kim sit down and Chloe is like, I have a bone to pick with you Kim. Like, you made the skims thong like this. I would, I don't know what she was saying, but she's like, my pussy doesn't fit in there. She's like, I need you to put, who's pussy doesn't fit in. Chloe says this to Kim. Oh gosh. And she's like upset because the skims doesn't fit her koochi. Oh God. Well, I don't even wear underwear. So I don't know. I'll say you can talk when I can. I need you to see. I need you to send me the TikTok. Also got a lot of questions about this because people are like Lindsey why are you ghosting
Starting point is 00:08:00 social media like all week and long these days? And then sexy Lexi, shout out to sexy Lexi and our Kitty gang chat. You know who sexy Lexi is? She's sexy Lexi and she's got like this symbol on her thing. Show me her profile. Show me her profile. Hold on, I need to read this message. So she says, I'm just curious on your boundary because I am working on some when a friend texted you on the weekend in small talk,
Starting point is 00:08:29 like how, hey, how are you? Or checking on you, do you reply on Monday? Or did they eventually get that you're putting them off on the weekends intentionally? Are they all aware you don't respond on weekends? I'm curious, I have people in my life that would be offended. I was just talking about like trying to work really hard on. I don't give a fuck if someone's offended. Affending. Affending.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I was talking about setting proper boundaries and being off of social media on the weekends. Like I want to be able to enjoy my time presently, like wherever I'm at and whatever I'm doing, instead of being focused on like, what's being posted next or caring about what someone sees. Like, I've talked about this before that I will take photos of stuff and just have my phone, take photos of it,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and then everyone's still seeing the same thing, but it's just respecting the time that I have on the weekends and then posting it during the weekday. Yeah, I used to be a person who did not, if I took a picture on a Saturday, I needed to be posted right away. I just felt like it was old and like I couldn't say that it just didn't feel the same
Starting point is 00:09:39 if I posted on a Monday. Now, I'll post that shit next week. Like I don't care. And also, if I don't respond to a text and someone's offended, I don't care. I'm offended that you think that you can be offended over that. I just, I feel like we all live our own lives. And do I see text messages that come through on my phone?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Sure, not going to lie and say that I don't. But at the same time, if it's not like urgent or super important, then I don't feel like it the same time, if it's not like urgent or super important, then I don't feel like it's urgent to get back to. It goes back to that saying that I said if everything's a priority, nothing is. So if I'm prioritizing my time on the weekends to intentionally spend it with the people that I'm spending on the weekends, then I don't need to be on my phone. And if someone needs me that bad, they will call me through the focus.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And I know it's probably an emergency. I'll text Kristen a hundred times on the weekend because she also doesn't typically answer on the weekends. And I'll just send her like a hundred TikTok, some funny shit, things for Monday, just like random shit. And I know she's not going to answer and I'm not offended by it. I don't care. I don't care if you don't answer me for three days. Like eventually you'll get back to the next. We're too old to be offended by someone not answering text messages. And I just feel like that's a you problem,
Starting point is 00:10:53 that's not a me problem. Yeah, that's an insecurity on someone else's part and doesn't get become my issue that I'm taking on. So, you know, absolutely not. This episode is brought to you by IQBAR. Now get 20% off every IQBAR product, plus free shipping when you text combos to 64,000. Kill, right before we started recording, guess what I ate.
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Starting point is 00:13:04 It has like a water park on the site. And, or I'm very excited. We're taking all the kids, the dog. I am slightly nervous just because like, we all know, Creed is not the best sleeper. And I just don't know like in tight quarters like that. What if it rains and then everyone's stuck in the can. Like it's just like a little scary.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I started freaking out this morning because I'm like, oh my God, like we just have to eat hamburgers and hot dogs for a week. Like, we're just gonna, that's all there is. Like, that's all we can have. So I texted my, one of my friends that's gonna be at the campsite and I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:38 hey, like, what do we do about food? And she's like, kill, your camper has a fucking stove. I was like, stove. Goodbye. You can bring like, um, I mean, I don't think that this is like the best thing, but you could bring like family size, like lasagna's and hook hook it in the hook it in the oven. Does it have a refrigerator in there? A little one. So what if you guys like meal prep stuff before you went?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Like pre-chop things. Yeah. And like your spaghetti that you make with the cream cheese, like you could like pre-do that and put it in a thing and then heat it up here. Why do I think of that? Like I'm out here like Lincoln asked me this morning, he's like, what are we going to eat? And I was like, oh my god, what are we going to eat? I can't eat hamburgers and hot dogs for six days, of seven days, and my kids are not eating that
Starting point is 00:14:26 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. No, you've got to get creative, honey. You've got to. I've never been camping. You got to think outside the box. Like I'm thinking, okay, like the easy-mac, like in the pre-packaged things, like that's super easy. And you store it very easily.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, I know nuggets. Fruit. Oh yeah, I bought so much fruit. I mean, in Elijah was like, oh, we need to go outside. It's literally a hundred degrees here and though you could cut the humidity with a knife right now. So I'm like, I'm not going over to the camper and like checking what we have. I'm absolutely not doing it today unless the sun goes down and it cools down like it's not happening. So that's a good idea. And we did how we have two big coolers that we can bring for drinks and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So it'll be fun. There's a lot of stuff to do on the site evidently. There's the water park, there's basketball courts. It's not camping in the woods where you're in a tent. So there are. What I'm thinking of is like circa 2003, 2004, Jessica Simpson with her Lou Vuitton in a camping chair around like a camp fire in a tent.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm also not doing that. You know how we talk about me being like a 70 year old grandma and shopping on QVC and HSN all the time. Yeah. So sometimes I buy stuff on there that like, I don't need. Like seven vacuums? That's offensive.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Because you are just like you called me out. My parents have also called me out coming over to this house. Like Lindsey, what are you doing with seven vacuum cleaners? Like, well, I don't know know they each do a different chore so like one might be a crumb getter upper and the other one might be a deep carpet cleaner like fuck off um you know Dyson gotta be Dyson and Shark gotta be Sharkin so I saw this really cool thing on there and I was like I should just probably get that and it's a heated camping chair and It was
Starting point is 00:16:29 160 dollars and I feel wasteful because here's the reason I thought That I could potentially use it during football season and if I'm going to like a tailgate or a bonfire My boyfriend asked me, when was the last time you actually went to a tailgate or a bonfire? And I was like, um, specifically 2012. So I don't really have a reason to use it. And now I feel like I need to do activities to justify the purchase. I will show you a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It actually does work and it does heat your Toshis, so you should get one. But camping for me is in the summertime. So I don't want. I feel like you would use it during winter. Oh, football season. Because those nights are cold. Football nights, especially as Lincoln gets older
Starting point is 00:17:20 and to get more competitive, you're right. Because I used to not miss a practice, because, but now that I mean, we would have like those heated, hand-warmer, or gloves, blanket, everything. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, so I think that you should get it a little really heat your Tushy.
Starting point is 00:17:37 They have their has to be cheaper options. You could possibly be. I got mine and- I love QBC. It's like Olive. I felt like it was like pretty neutral. So it'll match every outfit of whatever I want to wear when I'm sitting in it. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So I really just, I like it a lot. And it's specifically sitting in my four year. You're what? Four year or four year. You're four year? Yeah. What do you call it? A four year. But you said, why are you laughing? You said
Starting point is 00:18:08 foyer. My foyer. I don't know how to say it first. I think it's foyer, but nobody says that. Nobody ever says foyer. Off of righteous gemstones, I was watching an episode with my boyfriend not too long ago. And she was like, what the fuck are you doing? I got to him for ya. For ya. What was this? You were watching? Right, just Jim Stone. So have you ever watched it? No, it's a show I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Funny as hell. It's a show. It's funny as hell. Like I literally text Kristen as if it was an emergency to get her HBO Max or now Max. Vlogcasts were because like I needed to watch it. I was feeling. You sound like me and Elijah, we started watching Paternary Court on...
Starting point is 00:18:57 Shut up. I was on Pride. No, but I'm invested in these stories. Like I'm so invested in Paternary Court and I'm just like, I no-shade to anyone listening to CoffeeCommerce podcast I invested in these stories, like I'm so invested in paternity court and I'm just like, I know shade to anyone listening to CoffeeCommerce podcast that this has happened to. I'm not throwing shade at you guys. This is my experience.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Despite what people think about me, I know that I'm in the public eye. Therefore, specifically, I would never put myself in a position where I don't know who the dad is. Not that I would do it if I was off TV, but being on TV gives me more of a reason to never want to do that, right? And so I'm just like, and some of these people are so funny because they are fucking convinced that this person is the dad or this person is the grandma or oh my god and I'm just and the ones with that are like old white people that have no teeth and I'm just like Goodbye, you know, like there was a 31 year old woman
Starting point is 00:19:49 On there who wanted to know if this man was her father and the father was like denying her saying that she wasn't the Why did it take you 31 years to get an paternity test? Period, you know what I used to do when I was a kid. Okay. We know that I used to sneak and watch sex talks with Susan Johnson. She's still alive. Yeah, and if you like Google photos of her, it's absolutely hilarious. Like she's just holding up like these massive dogs. She's so funny. Okay, but I would also sneak and watch like Jerry Springer and Mori and like all the Salacious shows because I just felt like I needed to be invested in these things. Like in these people's lives that I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And like they were fighting and carrying on, and I was like, oh, that person's definitely gonna beat that person's ass. And like, oh, fuck, Todd's coming into Trinity. That was not having pretending before. We've also started watching killer cases on, I think it was Hulu. Oh, I saw that come up and I was wondering if anybody's watched that. Oh yeah, I'm on season three.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, it's pretty good. I get really frustrated by these people because I'm like personally, we'd never be able to commit a murder. However, if I did, I'd be able to get away with it because I watch enough fucking crime TV. These people do the dumbest shit and think that they're not going to wait with it.
Starting point is 00:21:04 First of all. Criminal crime. What are you thinking? And like, like some of these things, I'm like, you could have just got a divorce. Yeah, like what? That's what I've always wondered. Those are the most sketchiest ones to me.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It's like, okay, I don't wanna deal with you anymore. So I'm definitely gonna leave you. Like, I'm not gonna kill you. Especially when there's no kids involved. Like, there's not like, it's not like this is gonna be like a fucking custody battle that's, you know, going on for ages. It's literally like, there's no assets together, no kids,
Starting point is 00:21:37 but you still kill them. Like, that's not that worth it. Like, I'm sure it's not that worth it. Hilliissin, that's the same thing that I was talking about with my boyfriend about. Like if you are in a dating relationship or let's just say you're married, but like you have no children together,
Starting point is 00:21:52 your finances are all separate, whatever. Like number one, why are you cheating? Like just get the fuck out. Just get out. What are you doing? Like call me right before you do it. Just be like, hey, we're broke up because I'm about to fuck this bitch. Like, no, but there was this one.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And I have, I don't know what it, maybe it's just like my, I'm a little bitter about the whole military experience. Like I didn't get to join, how have you got to join, whatever, blah, blah. Goodbye. And so I'm a little bitter about it. He got the experience I didn't. Elijah was also in and like he talked,
Starting point is 00:22:26 he told me about like all the infidelity in the army. And I was like, I'm pretty sure the army was worse than Air Force. But anyway, this episode that I watched on killer cases was a husband and wife in the army. Okay. wife cheats on husband with a third member of the army in Korea.
Starting point is 00:22:42 So they're all stationed in Korea. wife and boyfriend plot the army in Korea. So they're all stationed in Korea. Wife and boyfriend plot the murder of husband. He dies in her arms. She cries about it. Boyfriend does not implicate her, say anything to these investigators. They call her in and they're like, oh, he, he, he threw you under the bus. And she was like, oh, and she tells all. And she said that they thought, yeah. Oh, she said she talked, she admits it, she has no fucking remorse. And she says it was all for his $400,000 life insurance policy.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And there's two things here that I have. One, 400,000 in today's fucking world is not getting you anywhere. It's gonna maybe last two, three years. But here's my next thing. If you married your boyfriend, he'll kill you for your $400,000 policy. Like, if he'll do it to your husband,
Starting point is 00:23:33 he's gonna kill you next. First of all, I'm not getting involved with some shady shit like that. There's gotta be a better way. There really just has to be a better way. And in this day and time, I continue to say this. I will continue to say this. If you think that you're going to outsmart anybody
Starting point is 00:23:52 with technology in today's time, you're done. Yeah, you're literally the dullest sharp, the dullest. What is it? You're not the sharpest tool. You're the dullest tool. Create it in the box. Okay. So, I need to tell you something. Someone listened to our podcast and I'm not going to say who. Someone did. And she doesn't like it. And she said that basically the only thing we talk about on here is bump plugs. And I just want to say, is that Manny?
Starting point is 00:24:27 No, my Nanny loves this podcast. So it's a woman who doesn't like, was it Savannah? No, I mean, I don't know if she likes it or not, but like, I don't. Was it Julie Crisley? No, she tells me that all the time, well, she used to listen to the podcast. I don't know if they can still listen, but she used to be like Todd just do not tune in Like I don't listen so I can get the tea She told my dad she was like I listen so I can get the tea, but you don't need to listen
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah, she never needs to listen because we'll be talking about necking on here like all kinds of shit like He never needs to listen. No, this this person just said that they didn't like me talking about X wives and butt plugs. And I was like, and then proceeded to say, make sure she brings her butt plug. And I'm like, first of all, I never said that I had a butt plug that was just one of my Kitty Gang members. And unfortunately, they got stuck in their ass hole and had to get it removed.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And it had a diamond on it. And it was not mine. And imagine it's like a Swarovski crystal, a Swarovski crystal. And I don't need a butt plug. Um, don't want one. Not going to judge anybody who uses a butt plug, but just saying if the game's good enough, I don't feel like I need it. So, I'm gonna continue to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You better text me right now. I'll text you right now. I can't say it aloud. It's very dangerous. Do I know this person? It's just a troll. Oh, you talked to her? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Oh. Yeah. And I'm like, hi. Outside of that, while we're kind of on the topic of butt plugs and shit, I saw Sophie of Franklin. She guested on a podcast. And she was discussing her number one gripe with men and their lack of foreplay and how it takes longer for men to think.
Starting point is 00:26:35 She was saying that she feels like foreplay should be at least 10 to 15 minutes, but for women it's so much more mental to get into the mood. So I wanna know your thoughts on this. And if like four plays, a thing for you, or if you wanna let go straight into it, I feel like our listeners, definitely you're gonna love this. So it really depends. I mean, I'm just now getting my,
Starting point is 00:27:01 I came off my in a depressant and for right now, I do have a prescription for well-beautrum. But anyway, I haven just now getting my, I came off my antidepressants and for, for right now, I do have a prescription for well-beautrum. But anyway, I haven't started taking it yet. I, there, there's a time and a place where you sometimes have to go right into it and there's not time for foreplay. But for me, especially in the state of mind that I've been in, like, I need foreplay or this is not going work, I'm never gonna get aroused. I feel like, this is for me personally. If I don't wanna do foreplay with you, I don't fucking like you. Like if it's just going straight to that,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and that's, I said, if I don't wanna do foreplay, then I probably don't like that. That's a problem. Yeah, I, like, but like I said, sometimes, especially if you have a lot of kids or something like that, you might only be able to have like a cookie with no for play. And like, obviously, that's an exception. Yeah, I mean, I think that's an exception to the rule. But I agree with like this 10
Starting point is 00:27:56 to 15 minute period of like for play, like whatever is going on, like, I don't know, like, might be a vibrator, might be a finger be a finger might be a tongue like have no idea what it might be a butt plug with Swarovsky crystals With what Swarovsky I've never been able to say that for Swarovsky So is it swarovsky only Google it? Swarov Houston said it's Sarovsky Swarovsky No, I'm right Swarovski. Swarovski. No, I'm right. Swarovski. Okay, well, whatever. It could be, it could be any of the above.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like, I'm not going to say whatever we do, because that's just like personal and shit. But like, right. It could be any of those things for like 10 to 15 minutes before the real sex game ensues. Agreed, I think that's a good, but also like too much foreplay, they might have an explosion before anything happens or they might get blue balls. Good bye. Okay, wait, wait, wait, okay, I need to ask you this. Okay, so if a guy goes down on a girl
Starting point is 00:28:58 and she gets off, she still wants to have sex, right? Say that again. If a guy goes down on a girl and she gets off, she still wants to have sex, right? Say that again. If a guy goes down on a girl and she gets off, she still wants to have sex, correct? Not always. Okay, that's a snooze. No, always. Like, no. That's just like the appetizer of the situation, right? So yeah, I mean, that is the appetizer. We need the entre now. If I, if some, if you Elisha goes down on me and then I get off and he obviously probably doesn't from that, I'm going to have sex with him for him, but I'm not going to get off again. Okay, this is just led down a whole drippy path.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Okay. True. So I feel like for some women, once they get off the first time, it's easier for them to keep getting off. For some, look at your eyeballs. I wish everybody could see. For some, it's like a one in done, like it's not happening again. That's me, one in done.
Starting point is 00:30:00 That's not me. So like could just be like a continuation of whatever. So no, we need the steak dinner after that. So that you're exhausted by timing all are done. Yeah, exhaustion, which is a great feeling because like okay, all the things have been done. And then we're really tired of going to bed. All the things have been done. Okay, but back to the point of he gets you off, you still have sex for you. You don't really want to, but you still do to get him off.
Starting point is 00:30:28 If you, I'm trying to think about the most proper way to say this, but it's just gonna be, if you suck his dick. And he gets off, chances are, that's not gonna be like a fun time. So it's like you've got to going to be like a fun time. So it's like, you've got to give him just like a little bit. Right. 100% is that right? Yes, I agree with that. I do it. Like you're not like go until it goes, like you're just, it's just a little bit for him. He can't, yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like it can't, it can't be the full experience because some guys, and I'm not saying all, but some guys can't go back to back. So you have to decide, okay, like before we start doing this, is this just gonna be just like BJ City? Or are we going the full course? Are we going the full course? The full course? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I need to know in advance. Yeah, I would agree with that. I definitely agree with that. I definitely agree with that. Oh sloppy, toffee. Little slob on my knob. No, slob on my knob. Like corn on the cob. What's the word next lyrics?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Sib on my dick. No, check in with me and do your job, right? Is that it? I thought it was s sit on my dick. Slop on my non-birx. I'm gonna need you to sing it to me. No, it's right. Check in with me and do your job.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Lay on the bed and give me head. Your lyric doesn't come in until, I don't even see your lyrics. Oh, so I just made it up. You just made it up. It's basically because I'm a rapper and I'm just creative. Well, you better call fucking cash money records and say, you know, I have money records. No, no, no.
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Starting point is 00:33:54 You think Vanderpuff rules is messy now? It's always been messy. I'm Jack Taylor, the LG Puff Rules villain. And I'm Brittany Cartwright, wife of the OG villain, and we've got a new podcast when reality hits. We'll definitely be talking about Vanderbub rules past and present in Omae, Scandival. And you'll get a look at what life is like for us now as we figure out marriage and parenthood little cruzy. And friendships and definitely feuds. It's our real reality with and without cameras. It's sometimes with special guests like our celebs friends, former castmates, and other veterans of reality TV.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So listen to and follow when reality hits with us, Jack Taylor and Brittany Cartwright. At Apple Podcasts Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so one of our listeners said that she's 33 years old. She has three kids ages five, three, and four months. Bless her heart. Okay. Seems like after my first baby, the really good sensation disappeared whenever we have inner quarters. And I feel like after the last baby sex is just not enjoyable, not painful, but just boring. I know the body changes after kids, but I have no desire anymore to even get it on because it doesn't have that great of a sensation anymore. Also I am on lexapro so I'm sure
Starting point is 00:35:14 that probably messes with my libido but oh I can't do it anymore. I like that idea of being intimate but it doesn't feel great anymore has anyone experienced this. I just went through this. This is why I came off Lexa Pro. So tell me more. I had an appointment with my psychiatrist and I after six or seven weeks of upping my dose to 20 milligrams,
Starting point is 00:35:35 I thought maybe my sex drive would start to come back and it didn't, so I told my therapist, my psychiatrist, and he laughed and he was like, you know, a lot of people wouldn't come tell me this. Like thank you for being honest. And he's like, it's an easy fix. I thought he was gonna say to go back down to 10 or maybe 15 milligrams,
Starting point is 00:35:57 but he ended up saying, we're just gonna take you off. He said, typically, and I'm not a medical professional, definitely check with your doctor on this. If you feel comfortable talking with him or her about, you know, your sexual situation, we tapered me off. And he typically said that, or he said that typically Lexapro does not have like the withdraw symptoms that some other drugs have. And so I was able to taper off. I'm not currently taking the well-beauty
Starting point is 00:36:25 journey yet because I feel pretty good right now. And I just want to get it some time before I start something else. But I think your best bet is to talk to your doctor, your prescriber, because whether they take you off and change you, or they lower your dose, or maybe they can give you something to get your sex drive back.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It will come back, but it probably is the lexapro more than it is your body changing in my opinion. Also, I don't have any experience with lexapro, but I just want to say, like, life is really fucking hard. And when you have kids, I have one. So I can't relate to people who have multiples and like hats off to every person that has multiples that is doing it and finding time to do all of the other recreational things because just it was hard with me to do it with one whenever
Starting point is 00:37:12 I was married. So multiple kids isn't a thing for for everybody. We know that. But I think that when you just have like a lot of life shit going on and the last thing you do is get in the bed and you're like, oh great, now it's time for me to be in touch with my husband and I'm exhausted after all day. I think that I don't wanna say you need to plan it but I have started really disengaging in my phone after five o'clock and kind of like getting my mind into just like the mode of my partner, my son, things going on in my house and
Starting point is 00:37:52 that to me like helps. So I think sometimes there's like a lot of things mentally going on and like a mom's mind that she can't like get into that mode. Does that make sense? Yeah, I also think depending on the partner, sometimes they can feel like an obligation or kind of like you owe it to them and I'm not saying that that's okay because it's definitely not but sometimes you feel like you're getting the pressure from your partner. So that's one thing. The other thing is you may have a really supportive partner but your guilt might be taking over and they actually fully understand and you're out here stressing about not having sex with them
Starting point is 00:38:28 because you know what they could be feeling, but really they might not be bothered by it. So just have the open conversation with your partner and definitely, I mean, I was so relieved when my doctor laughed and he didn't laugh in like a, in a mean way, he was just like, I just didn't expect you to say that. You know, he said most people don't talk about it. And I think, I think you should talk to your doctor about it, whether it's a guy or a girl because, you know, you don't want to feel like that forever. I will say from the people that have shared with me
Starting point is 00:38:59 that they are on Lexipro and have several girlfriends who have shared this and know somebody who's a little bit older that's like a parent age that's also onlexapro that has shared with me. It seems to be a very common trend that it's a struggle with the sex life so I would also, talk to your healthcare provider. Outside of that, sex being an obligation, I have never felt the way that I currently feel in any other relationship than what I'm in and it not feeling like an obligation. I've always kind of felt like that's just something
Starting point is 00:39:41 that you need to do because your partner wants to do it. And even if you're not in the mood, you should just do it because they want it. Yep. And now I don't feel like that anymore. And it's a really good feeling. I just feel like that's such an added pressure on a relationship, right?
Starting point is 00:39:59 When you feel like, oh, I have to do this. Well, just on women in general, and I'm not saying that men don't go through it, but I think that falls through the cracks a little more for women. I feel like we're just expected to do this. Well, just on women in general and I'm not saying that men don't go through it But I think that falls through the cracks a little more for women I feel like we're just expected to do it and it's it's definitely like an unsaid unwritten Expectation or so it feels like I'm also in a position where I don't feel obligated I mean, I feel obligated, but not because of him. I feel obligated because yeah, I feel bad You know what I mean? Yeah, And so, and he's like, it's okay. Like he doesn't make me feel bad about it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I think a lot of times, and this is just like life in general, not just about our sex lives, but a lot of times when you feel like the choice is taken from you, that's what makes it hard. Like when you feel like, oh, I have to do this,
Starting point is 00:40:43 versus I want to do this. Mm-hmm. Yep. That makes it hard. Like when you feel like, oh, I have to do this. Versus I want to do this. Mm-hmm. Yep. That makes life hard. I'm so tired today. My kids didn't, I didn't sleep last night. My kids slept in my bed. They came home, they slept in my bed.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And I was just like on a sliver of the bed. I didn't sleep. I was up all night. And I thought I could just like get through the day. And I have nonstop in yawning. So I apologize. And now I'm, my allergies, and I know what's going on. through the day and I have nonstop in yawning, so I apologize. And now I'm, my allergies, and I know what's going on. Listen, allergies have been so bad this year
Starting point is 00:41:09 for every single person that I have talked to. I can't get rid of a nose drip and kill, can't get rid of yawning. So like, I'll get, like, not post nasal drip, but like congested out of nowhere and then it'll just clear up out of nowhere and then it'll cut the same thing the next day. It's the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And then I'm all of a sudden like, okay, am I getting a cold? Should like I stay away from people or is this just like a flower about taking me out? Right. Can you tell us all about why you had to cancel your dermatologist appointment? So some of the kitty gang already knows
Starting point is 00:41:42 since we talked about it a little bit in the group chat for those of you who don't know and are not in the kitty gang group chat. A couple weeks ago I had a dermatologist appointment that I waited like two and a half months for and I haven't really been a super coffee drinker lately like very occasionally. So I chugged some green tea and I thought everything was going to be fine not realizing the caffeine that's in green tea and I'm talking like a cold green tea not like a one. I don't like it. Oh you don't? Neither. Oh my god I love it. I really love the cold green tea better but and my stomach felt a little weird but I was like I'll be able to like at least get to a gas station or go to the bathroom like when I get to the appointment. get to a gas station or go to the bathroom like when I get to the appointment. Um, I didn't even make it off of my street, like my row that I live on before I called Kristen and Natalie and I was like, I need just cancel my appointment, reschedule it because
Starting point is 00:42:35 I just shit my pants. Um, and I was especially pissed off because you like to put that toilet in my trunk. It's like a portable toilet and he bought it for me and like put it in there but it's collapsible and I didn't I didn't have the time under the pressure that I was under to try to figure out how to pop it up and like sit in the trunk and like shit in it. Yeah that's what I was saying like that's so much work like if you have the shits that hit you in the Like if you have the shits that hit you in the way that you have the shits that hit you, the thoughts of being able to get pulled over
Starting point is 00:43:12 on the side of the road, go to your trunk, pop up your shitter, get on it, and shit, that's a whole lot of things that are going on. I was under the impression that this thing was placed underneath like maybe your driver seat, so you could easily just like pull it out, drop draws and shit. No, well, so I told you Elijah about the situation. I was not the underwear that I was wearing was not salvageable. Thankfully, no one was home when I got there. And I told the live show what happened,
Starting point is 00:43:45 and he actually popped up the toilet in the trunk, so it's already popped up with a bit with the liner in it. And then he found another one that's not a collapsible situation, and he's like, do you want this one? It has a toilet. He's so stupid. So thoughtful. It had a toilet paper holder on it, and I was like, no,
Starting point is 00:44:03 we're not spending $80 on a toilet when you just put up the one that's in my trunk. So now it's there, it's popped up, it's lined, it's ready to go. However, my next dermatologist appointment is not until September. And I do have some questionable spots on my legs and stuff that are new, and I am nervous. So I was like, I just, I don't, I can't miss the next one. So I will not be drinking green tea the entire week leading up to that appointment. I just think that you should just exit green tea out of your life because. But I also have a body very quickly.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I have IBS with constipation. So the problem is and I, I didn't know that was a thing. Oh, it's a thing. So I noticed that I've never been to the doctor for it. However, I won't shit for four days, and then it's explosive, and it comes out of nowhere, and it comes quick, and it doesn't matter, like, doesn't matter where I am.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So honestly, that's terrifying. I know. Quite literally terrifying. I'm glad that you're okay though, and I'm glad that you re-scheduled your dermatologist appointment. I'm sad that you didn't get to go and get your moles checked,
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Starting point is 00:47:45 Just say, Mass. Yeah. And Newton Mass. It's tragic. They were these elderly people were set to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary, and then were found dead in a triple-stabbing tragedy. That is sad on so many fucking levels. So when I first saw the initial article that popped up about it, they had not like they didn't have any leads or anything like that
Starting point is 00:48:15 and I immediately was like, okay, any person that's celebrating like their 50th wedding anniversary, there was no signs of like breaking and entering. Immediately, I'm like, okay, it's someone who knows them and it's like a targeted job. And now it says that a suspect has been charged with the murder and connection of the deaths of this husband, wife, and her mother. It says on a press conference on Monday night, they have arrested Christopher Ferguson 41 in connection with the attack. Ferguson is currently charged with one count of murder as well as a salt and battery with a dangerous weapon, weapon, and burglary. Further charges, once all top tees are completed on all three victims, a letter from family members sent out by the sacred heart and our ladies
Starting point is 00:49:01 collaborative, the victims were named as Jill and Bruno, D. Amor and Jill's mother. I don't know how to say her name, but it says that the letter described them as an integral part of the church and community and long-time members. And investigators said they believed the attack on the family was random. They have the suspect and custody. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that maybe it's not as random as what they think. My first thought was this isn't random. My first thought is, because, I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't happen,
Starting point is 00:49:36 but just in terms of like society and where we are today, I just feel like you're taking a huge risk to potentially do this to a family that you have no idea what you're gonna get. And if this was a burglary, you have to know what is inside. To stabbing someone, that's a different way to go. That's a different, that's a whole other level of murder. They talk about that being like an intimate way to kill somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And what do they say? It's like a crime of passion. Yeah, crime of passion and I oftentimes think about it's come out about co-worker that you know the defense is saying he didn't have any connection to those victims and it kind of makes me think the same thing with this guy. You just go in, stab somebody in their home that you don't know that you have zero connection to. Like, I just don't believe that. Maybe he didn't know them, but he knew,
Starting point is 00:50:35 like, he would have been a stranger to them, but they weren't a stranger to him because he probably scoped out the scene, stalked them, did surveillance on them, just like co-burger. You know what I mean? So, like, co-burger was very familiar with the people in that house. And so this guy that did it to this elderly couple probably knew what was going on and
Starting point is 00:50:57 probably watched for a significant amount of time. Because I can't see you just like stabbing three people to death, not knowing what's even in their house if it's a burglary. And it's kind of like how that Nashville school shooting like not too long ago came about. While the attacker might not have had a personal connection to any of the students who passed away. There was some type of connection there. So like these people were very involved in the church. They had three children, I think, and maybe five grandchildren.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah, three children, like five grandchildren. So I'm just wondering if they're going to find some type of connection to, you know, possibly like one of the children or something like that. These people were very involved in their church too. So this could be like some type of religious tack. Like it could be anything, but to go into someone's home, stab them to death, there's something more to it. I will make sure when this episode goes live that we post articles, so you guys can read more but my prayers go out to this family and this community. I just have one last thought on that. The thought of being, this is about to be morbid. Shot, I feel like a lot of times more often than not, at least
Starting point is 00:52:18 for as far as gunshots and stab wounds go, you're gonna die a lot quicker. Maybe before you even realize, you know, what's going on. I mean, I'm sure there are slow, agonizing ones, but like, imagine being stabbed everywhere and you're just like internally bleeding before, and you realize, like you know you're about to die because you have minutes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Just the thought of being stabbed to death is one of my worst fears. I hate knives, I don't keep a knife block, I don't keep knives in a drawer. My kids can never find a butcher knife. They are high up where I can't touch them. My kids can't touch them. The only one that has access to them is Elasha. And I promise you, if you ask anyone that comes to my house, I do not fuck with knives. I don't fuck with them at all. I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say if if I was gonna be, I was about to say killed by accident, nobody was just gonna kill you by accident, but maybe. I wouldn't slaughter.
Starting point is 00:53:09 My last choice would be killed by stabbing. Literally my worst fear. The pain and just like- Because like you're bleeding out and like the pain of it, like hitting you, you see this scar right here? This was this little tiny scar right here. This was Kyle Chrisley who stabbed me right here? This was this little tiny scar right here.
Starting point is 00:53:25 This was Kyle Chrisley who stabbed me right here in my hand because we were fighting over a peach and I got the last one. And a peach? He stabbed through it and my hand and it went through my hand. That was one of the worst pains, absolutely ever. So I'm just basing it off of this little tiny scar that was basically
Starting point is 00:53:45 nothing. Did it bleed? Yes, and did it hurt? Yes, and was he trying to stab the peach and not my hand? Yes, like he didn't intentionally like stab through my hand, but still a stabbing, right? The thoughts of someone coming in and brutally doing that to me like repeatedly over and over, absolutely not. Just take me out and one foul swoop. And like make sure you get me. Literally, please take me out quickly. I don't even want to know that you're about to kill me.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Like I do not want to know. No, ma'am, I want to talk to you about this one other thing. And I know that this is not relevant to you because you wouldn't be blending families with anyone because you're not gonna date a man with children. But I saw this video and it was about blending families and how hard the process can be once you're set in your ways and kind of have like your own things figured out
Starting point is 00:54:43 and your routine. And it kind of walked through the reasons why you wouldn't want to blend a family post-averse and how people often romanticize what it looks like to move on post-averse. Kids often don't like blending families and moving in with others and liked it better having their parents to themselves and how there's a whole management process and how it takes its own time to handle blending families on top of all the other things you're juggling while also expecting the kids involved just to like it
Starting point is 00:55:13 um, and then it went into this whole process on how there's other options besides moving in together creating conscious decisions living apart together models that don't disrupt your children and it made me think of way back when I think when Courtney Cardass she started dating Travis Barker and she was talking about how like she enjoyed having her own place and him having his own place and how like they'll spend the night there and then spend the night at her house. While I don't think that that's ideal, it does make total sense to me. Now that I am dating someone so intentionally with children. And I hate to use the word date because we are in a full-blown relationship, but I feel like I wouldn't want to just like automatically move in with someone because they have like their normal and you have your normal. And I think like doing all of that plus putting the relationship onto the kids,
Starting point is 00:56:12 that all of that's like so much at one time. It's even a lot if their, if the other person doesn't have kids, that's a huge adjustment to the children alone. Yeah, tell me like you're experienced a little bit. With... Yeah, so, you know, there was a huge adjustment for, I would say Isaac and Havi, and then once they, like, kind of established their relationship, it was almost, almost as if Isaac looked at Havi as more of a dad, so then he was really, really affected
Starting point is 00:56:43 by the divorce, and I don't think that, I'm not saying that Isaac and Lincoln didn't like Chris, but I definitely, it was not what they were used to. And it definitely wasn't one of it. They probably wouldn't have chosen it if it was up to them. And then same thing for anybody else, you know, Malik and, you know, that situation, I don't think that they would have chosen it. Lux also really struggles with it. I mean, he's recently expressed to me in the last couple days. Well, he was with his dad last week, but before that, he said, and he's never really, well, he said, I just wish you and my dad lived in the same house, so I don't have to switch. I think that's very normal. My other kids have never said that to me. And, you know, he doesn't have a problem with Elijah.
Starting point is 00:57:30 He doesn't have a problem with Chris' other baby mom, but I think it comes from a place of just like... He wants his parents in the same house so that he can be with both his parents at all times. Yeah. And that makes sense because I think that out of all of your kids, I think that Lux is, I would that out of all of your kids, I think that Lux is,
Starting point is 00:57:46 I would go out on a limb and say from what I know, Lux is the closest to you. And I think he also likes being a dude dude, which he can do that with his dad. With his dad, yeah. You know, and so he's probably struggles, knowing that he misses the nurturing part from you when he's with Chris, but he gets to be a bro when he's over there. And then, you know, doesn't have both of those parts. So that out of all of your children makes total sense to me why Lux would say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And then it's just, you know, even though he lies just good to the kids, I mean, I'm sure they have their feelings or their reservations about it. And it's just, it's so hard. And, and I just think, and there's no rules, there's no handbook. I do think too when you as a mother have kind of gotten set in your own routine, and I'm just gonna say like post-avort, right?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Because you had the two kids and then you divorced. And then that was probably like your most stable home environment up until now. And that would be really hard with like the change in the transitions and as many kids as you have all of the opinions because they probably all feel a different way. Yeah. That would be really hard. And then what do you do in that situation? Like if one of the kids, you know, between you and your boyfriend were to say, you know, I really don't want this or I really don't like this, it's like, you know, they don't get to make the decisions, but how, how much are you considering those types of opinions and those feelings when making your final decision
Starting point is 00:59:25 and something, whether it be moving in or a sleepover or the role that you guys play in each other's kids' lives? Like, you know, the kids are not the boss, but you should consider at least how they feel when making your decision. So I don't even know what that would look like for you guys. I will say something came up last night that will had had a conversation with Jackson and his biggest concern now because the only other person that I've introduced him to is suburban dad. And Jackson's biggest concern and reservations on anything and this would be with anyone, not just my current boyfriend, but I think it's just like a life concern. I'm afraid mom's gonna get cheated on. And so when I called the test, I was like,
Starting point is 01:00:09 oh my gosh, and so, you know, will is very much like, be a kid and worry about kid dings. And, you know, if something like that happens, that's for your mom to handle and like not for you to be involved in, but at the same time, while I agree with that, it also impacted Jackson's life in some way, right? Because he was introduced to suburban dad, to his children, to his ex-wife, like they were a part of our life. And so, I think that he probably has some reservations of if, you know, mom continues in this relationship and something
Starting point is 01:00:46 like that happens, will they just like forever go away? Right, right. And it's hard because- So I think that's his biggest. Well, and some things you want to- That's the biggest concern. Well, as I, I mean, I would understand that too. It sucks because it's one of those things where, you know, there are adult problems you don't
Starting point is 01:01:04 want to put on the kids, but this couldn't have been prevented. That's something that you guys, nobody could have protected him from. And so he came to those feelings on his own and they're very valid. Yeah, I mean, I do think it's very valid. I will say I would not be in a rushed situation to do any type of like move-in situation.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I think with my boyfriend and him going through his divorce, he's more newly divorced than I am. So I feel like, you know, allowing that process to take place and then to get into like their very normal and routine schedule, which I feel like they have, but it takes time, you know, divorce and the after effects of divorce takes time. I know because I've done it, you know, because you've done it. Not moving in together.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And I also think that there's something if you can and you have the ability to be able to move in together, if that's the choice that you make in a neutral territory where it was never theirs or never just yours. I think that also helps because there's a less territorial aspect of like well this was my playroom but now it's all a more playroom. You know, I think if you kind of start fresh and I'm a big believer of starting fresh and new energy. You know, if you're taking that next step, I think that that's super healthy. And you probably feel that way a bit with Elijah and your new house.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah, I mean, and I will say too, it probably depends a lot on the kids' ages as well. I think the older they get, the harder it can be because they are able to express themselves more and form their own opinions. And when they're toddlers, I creed, I mean, if he has any feelings about it, he won't really know how to express them. I don't feel like.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I know. And it's not that he, he doesn't have any feelings. I'm sure because I think it's just based off of his age, the way that he would express would be very different. Maybe it would be less and word and more in behavior. And that's why they very much encourage for children who are going through an adverse childhood experience. If you can do play therapy with them, they talk about how great that is because they kind of act out the way that they're feeling through play.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And so I'm very much like it was crazy when Jackson started play therapy post of worse. The way that he would play with things was like there was always a mom and a dad and the mom and the dad if they were dinosaurs like the mom and the dad slept in one room and the baby dinosaur slept in another room and the dad dinosaur played basketball and the mom dinosaur cooked and the baby dinosaur slept in another room. And the dad dinosaur played basketball and the mom dinosaur cooked, and the mom dinosaur took him to school. And like very much indicative of what his life was.
Starting point is 01:03:56 When you told me that you had Jackson and play therapy, I looked up with play therapist around here, and I hate that everything where I lived is so few and far between. I think the nearest play therapist is 45 minutes to an hour away and I just get so frustrated because if that's the only play therapist within like a driving distance, they're probably booked. I am going to try to get the littles in there just because I feel like you know if Lux is having those feelings at five years old and, you know, like you said, the behavior stuff with creative,
Starting point is 01:04:28 I mean, he hasn't really changed his behavior, but I think it could be really good at least for them as an outlet. The only time I knew about play therapy prior to you saying something to me was when I saw it on Law and Order. Like, I didn't know play therapy was a thing. sought on law and order. Like, I didn't know Play Therapist was a thing. Yeah, no, it's a real thing. I believe in it very much so. I was able to gather a lot of information just as a parent from the way that he played
Starting point is 01:04:54 in play therapy. And if it makes you feel any better play therapist or a few and far between, there's a lot of other certifications that come along with being a play therapist versus just being a traditional therapist. They have to be, it's basically like a specialization. And I would highly encourage it for anyone.
Starting point is 01:05:15 If you can do it, to do it, you're going to learn a lot and it is time consuming. And if you have two, that's where each time consuming would be interesting if they would want them to play together since they're kind of like experiencing the same thing with the same two parents or if they would want them to play separately. Or maybe a combination of both. Definitely worth the investment in my opinion for sure. I also drove 45 minutes if that makes you feel any better.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Okay, that does make me feel better. Cause I was like, if this is gonna be, I just feel like finding people in Delaware is more difficult than maybe in like a more urban area, like Atlanta or Nashville or, and so I just feel like I'm always going crazy out of everybody's way to, you know, a comedy and whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:04 But yeah, I'll definitely check out the plate therapist. I saw it on like a sign or whatever, right? crazy out of everybody's way to you know accommodate and whatever but um yeah I'm definitely check out the play therapist I saw it on like a sign or whatever right by Natalie's house and it said like I said like I play or something like that I'll reach out and see hopefully they're not too booked we'll keep us updated on that and with that being said foul play. First of all I'm a huge fan. I deliver mail so I listen to all the podcasts. I love you girls.
Starting point is 01:06:28 You stay, keep me laughing. Last weekend, me and the family were heading south for a weekend of camping in chaos. And let me tell you, it surely did not disappoint. Not even 10 minutes into our road trip, my 16-month-old baby starts to gag himself and proceeds to throw up milk chunks all over his car seat. Of course, we are packed in like sardines because we had to have the whole house to go for two days.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I immediately get him out. We all can relate to that. With a 16 month old like taking everything in your house. Yes. I immediately get him out to clean him up and finally after changing him and scrubbing the car seat down, I go to snap him back into his five point harness and yes you guessed it. The leftover juice from the milk throw up and the baby wipes literally splats me across the face almost into my mouth. No, the way that I would have
Starting point is 01:07:17 thrown up everywhere. I screamed my daughter next to the baby seat screams, the baby screams not even playing. I snap the other side and it does the same. I can't even make this shit up. I relate to my life. I relate in my life mainly to Kaelin or Chaos. Thanks girls. Thanks girls for the daily laughs. I support every one of you. I, the way that I would probably throw up the milk chunks that exploded in my car last week, Scooter, Keith, a Natalie sun, Keith threw up smelling it. That's how bad it was. So I can only imagine what she went through. And it's, no, if it was on my face, I'd be throw up.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I throw up. I remember, I remember when like Chase and Savannah were little and we had a mini van, we called it the marshmallow. It was like white and it had like tan on the bottom, look like the top drive-ers. No, Julie drove this, I have no idea what taught reshaving, probably Mercedes, I have no fucking idea. But Julie drove this van and there is nothing worse than being an older sibling to siblings who are seven and eight years younger than you
Starting point is 01:08:26 that throw bottles all over the car and the milk clavers and it smells like actual death. Like it's what I would imagine a death would smell like. And it's all chunky and like just like, I cannot. And I use it here responsible for going through the van of the back and like just like, I cannot. And I feel responsible for going through the van of the back and like getting out the bottles and the diapers and like, absolutely not. Like, somebody should be sued for that for making me do that.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I had to have my vehicle detailed. Scooter came the next day and detailed the fuck out of it. And my car has been clean ever since. It smells brand new. I promise you, when each and every one of these fucking kids get to car, I'm going in there, and I'm gonna spray milk on all of them, and I'm gonna just step on all these fucking cheeses
Starting point is 01:09:15 in their back seats. Listen, my parents used to say that all the time, they were like swear, like when you all get cars, like I'm fucking up your shit. And it's like, first of all, you're paying for it also. So like, you're gonna fuck up your own shit that you paid for. Okay, next foul play.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Oh, first of all, I love that this girl does not have any desire to be kept anonymous. Hi guys, I'll start by saying I love you both so much. I never miss an episode, OG, Kitty Gang, FAM, truly. I think K Kill is my soul sister. Anyways, zero desire to be kept anonymous because this is gold. Maybe not as foul as it can get, but my husband and I are still laughing about it. Okay, Brooks Smith. On Father's Day, we put the we put the kids to bed and decided to put on 50 shades of grey.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Well, let's just say things got spicy. My husband and I started doing the deed and we learned our lesson. I had him hop up and shut our door. When I tell you, as soon as he shut the door, my year old daughter's door flew open. She runs down the hall, starts banging in our door, screaming, open, quick. Panicked, I flew out of bed,
Starting point is 01:10:20 threw my shorts on backwards inside out, ripped the door open, and immediately tried to figure out what was wrong. She was screaming, my nail, it stuck in my nose. Well, earlier that day, we went to clears and she begged to get the stick on nails. Oh my God. She had put them on earlier in the day
Starting point is 01:10:36 and she was picking her nose in bed and one of the nails popped off in her nose and she couldn't get it out. I'd have grabbed the tweezers, pull it out of her nostril, needless to say, mood was ruined. Thanks so much, ladies. I'd have grabbed the tweezers, pull it out of her nostril, needless to say, mood was ruined. Thanks so much, ladies. I love you guys so much.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Do you remember, I was just thinking about these nails, I was in Walmart the other day. And first of all, press on nails have come so far. From like, what they really have. Well, they really have. Well, they really have. Like, they've come so far.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Used to the adhesive was just dent, like, just trash. Right. It was like a sticker, like trash. Trash, you would be eating popcorn, a bag of chips, one of your nails might fall off in it. You might forget it, not know that it's in there and the next person that's eating it, find it.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Picks it up. My dad's brother's wife, God rest her soul, she passed away, but she used to do my nails with press-ons and I thought I was the absolute shit. It was like the French manicure ones. Yep, and you were the taller general. And got them. They were so good. Now they're just like so much better and so many people use them and they all look so great way better than I ever remember like mind looking back in the day. I just want to say anything that gets stuck up your kids' nose that was one of the most terrifying crevices that I was worried about with a little child. I've heard crazy stuff like people
Starting point is 01:12:01 their kids shove in like dimes up there, like the little like brown batteries getting stuck up there, having to go to children's healthcare of Atlanta, like not my thing, like I'm not trying to do that. Children's healthcare of Atlanta, shout out. I shoved a marble up my nose. I was way too old to be doing this because I was like six or seven, like why was I doing that at six or seven? I wasn't three, I wasn't four, I was some five.
Starting point is 01:12:22 But it came out right away because it was kind of big, so I just like, whatever. But it's so funny that this is a foul play because last night Elijah's mom was at the house and she was telling me how Elijah stuck a popcorn kernel in his ear. And he had to, they had to be put in a sleep to get it out because he wouldn't sit still for them to pull it out.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Like they saw it, but he was like erratic or whatever. So they had to put in a sleep to pull it out. Shots are it, but he was like erratic or whatever. So they had to put him to sleep to pull it out. Shots are, kids are, what are, they're bored. I don't know what fuck, like why do we shove things in places? Although this girl in the foul play, she didn't mean to do it. You know what I mean? Like she was just like, let me just get this gold out
Starting point is 01:12:59 of my nose real quick. No, but it's just like further, you, first of all, picking noses is just disgusting. Like it's something that you do in the shower. And I'm going to stand by that. I know that you and I have talked about this before, like I pick the only time I ever pick my noses in the shower, because I get every small like it's like, it's not rockets happen to shower, that's it, it's happening nowhere else.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Absolutely terrifying that this happened, but can you just imagine that you're like in the mood to be like you've watched 50 shades of gray, like you really want to like hop up on that dick and then your kid comes in screaming because they have an acrylic that's like up their nose like no. For a press on, absolutely not. And it probably hurt too because those the the press on their thin. Yeah. I can't even imagine. God bless, God bless this person. So we love you all. And on that note, I think I'm going to... Let me see how my goodness. Hey, let's go.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Where have you find us? Come to me this day. That's what I'm about to be doing. Actually, I'm just lying. I'm going to T-Mobile. I have to go and get a new phone. And I need to go to the gym. And I need to go to the grocery store.
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