Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Healing Inner Child Backfires

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. Hello. Is it a teeth check? Yeah, I'll check my teeth. I put everything seasoning on my hard-boiled eggs. And when I bit into it, I was like, I just want to make sure there was no poppy seeds or anything in my teeth. Good morning and welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. Speaking of everything but the bagel seasoning, I put that shit on everything. Yeah, it's so good. It's so good. It's like

every spice that you need and one. Yeah, I don't know how we lived so long without it. Okay, used to when I was growing up, my parents used to buy like everything bagels. Yeah, they're so good. They're so good, but I feel like it's not a normal thing that like a normal kid would eat, but we all ate them. Oh, my kids won't eat it. They're like, what's that black stuff? Wait, what? And I would never eat them as a kid.

What did they say? What's that black stuff? I'm like. Oh my God. Officially back from spring break and I look it. It is pouring down rain here. I'm trying to get all of my laundry caught up and please tell me why when you go to the beach,

you think you get the sand out of everything but it still somehow ends up in your home six hours away. I didn't even went to the beach and I don't know. That's why you need a bog bag because you can shower them out in your shower before you come home. I do have multiple bog bags, but please tell me. Oh yeah, like multiple.

I have to send you a picture of them on the top of my closet. I'm very weird about them, I don't like them getting dirty. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, time the fuck out, because I only discovered them within the last couple months. Oh, I've had these for years. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. And you didn't share that hack. I guess I was being a gatekeeping hoe because I've had them for years. Because I'm going to tell you why all those random not they're not even random all those crazy wet, nasty, muddy game nights that we used to spend at the football field and now

spend on the baseball field, the soccer field and all of that. And you didn't share this? I thought just everybody knew about them. No. And I think Kroc really missed the mark with this one. I'm pretty sure Kroc has their own version of a bag. But no, but I'm not buying the Kroc version of the bag because it didn't start there. So like I'm supporting bog bag. I am a bog bag girly and I have two extra large ones and then I have a baby bog. Oh, see I do not have the baby bog and I wanna get it.

I got the baby bog and I took it on our trip with us. I think it is so cute and it's just like precious. No, it was the perfect size for our trip. So anyways, continue with your updates. Sorry, I just went on a tangent about bog wags. Well, while we're on this topic of like things that you can wash out, please tell me why I got the most hateful message from a mom on Instagram. I posted a photo of Jackson in the car on the way to school and I

looked down and he was wearing Crocs and I was like, but you're supposed to be wearing tennis shoes today. And he was like, mom, don't worry about it. Like I have them in sport mode. It's like basically the same thing. And I'm like, okay, well, it's actually not the same thing, but whatever do you, um, this mom sends me a message on Instagram and tells me that I am absolutely white trash for letting my kid wear Crocs and I just need to know how many moms out there crocs to school or I Guess just like Crocs in general. I'm like I've really rocks the picture that is going up on Instagram today every single one of my kids is wearing Crocs and I'm pissed that I didn't bring mine to like match because I was like like one of my kids is wearing Crocs and I'm pissed that I didn't bring mine to like match because I was like like truthfully I got Kristen on the top the Croc trend like I bought Crocs for her because I was

like you have to wear Crocs. Okay so I saw after this mom said that I was white trash or letting my kids wear my kid wear Crocs everywhere I was like all right well then I guess just classify me as that because he's gonna continue wearing them absolutely everywhere Okay I now want a pair of Crocs because I saw this girl on Instagram posting about how Her friends like gift her the croc charms to put on there. Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing I'm gonna send you Crocs. What size shoe do you wear? Oh my god. I'm gonna send you Crocs. What size shoe do you wear? Um, a seven and a half. But like why, why didn't I know that it was a thing to like

gift charms to your friends? Croc charms. I decorated Kristen's. Like I did all the dec- I did all the charms on her Crocs. Wait what? I got her the Crocs. Yeah. And then I got all the charms and then I put them in the holes for her and then I gifted them to her. So why are you being a gatekeeper? the Crocs. Yeah. And I got all the charms and then I put them in the holes for her and then I gifted them to her. So why are you being a gatekeeper? Wendy, this is, I have not gatekipped this because I have been talking about Crocs for years and Croc charms for years. You just don't listen to me. I listen to you and you don't listen to me. Oh my god. Okay, so then I get home and my ferns are still alive. So like everybody should be very proud of me for that.

Normally replace them like three times a year because they always die. And I was telling- Who lies? My ferns. Your ferns. I thought you said your friends. No, I hope my friends aren't dying. That's

why I was like, what did you just say? Dear God. No, my ferns are still alive and I was like so happy that they weren't fried to a crisp whenever I got back. Outside of that, I also need to let you know that I went to family fried chicken night at this local restaurant last night It it literally was so fun it was champagne and an entire chicken fried mashed potatoes Brussels sprouts and gravy. Oh, it was good $45 That's it. Yeah $45 for all of that.

Like your whole family could eat off of it. Wait, Kristen said something in the chat. She said you literally threatened to, oh, I need to tell you this story really quick about Crocs. Okay. So Kristen refused to wear Crocs, right? And I literally texted her husband and I was like, I need you to hide all of Kristen's shoes.

Like you gotta hide them. And the only thing that's gonna be by where she puts her shoes on, it's gonna be the crocs. So she's not gonna have an option. And Corey literally texted me back and was like, do you want to have me killed? Wait, but like what shoes is Kristin regularly wearing? Or is she just like strolling around in crocs full time? Well, she has a variety that she wears.

But I had to tell that story because I was like she was Against she was like anti completely anti crocs. Yeah, but anyways back to your food So it's $45 for all of that and the like alcohol. Oh, absolutely not Yeah, no no no no also Outside of that it is tax week and trying to get everything together and well. Did I tell you about Will getting in an accident and hitting a deer and not realizing what hit his car?

He said he didn't hit it, it hit him. You did not tell me that, but also I would say when deer pop out in the middle of nowhere, like they just show up and they're, I think it's a mutual, like you hit me and I hit you because you can't prepare yourself for it. And, um, but you kind of hit each other because like they see the lights coming. You know what? That's always made me question like squirrels, you know, it's like, you know, you're in the middle of the road and you're scurrying so that's how I know that you know and I I will get in a wreck to like miss a squirrel

I'll get in a wreck to miss to miss anything and I don't know if you have this happen in Georgia But a lot of times around here like within the last year I've stopped for at least three turtles. Three turtles? We don't, I don't feel like we have turtles around here. So we will literally get out and like one of them specifically, I was leaving here within the last six to eight months and had to pick up a snapping turtle. And one I picked it up by its tail because I was like, I can't hit you but like I don't

have time for you to like take your fucking time. So actually, I started to take your fucking time. So this neighbor guy, like, no shirt on like redneck love him so much. Don't know who he was. But he literally he just grabbed it like this was like fucking Duck Dynasty. He did not give a shit. And he got like, and then it just like, kind of like took its time in the grass. But like it was out of the road. But yeah, we have them in the road all the time. Okay, so he gets in this wreck and hits a steer and it's like on the way to taking Jackson to school. Jackson was in the car.

He was in the car. And he said his dad never stopped like not one time. Like he just kept driving. And I was like, when Jackson's telling me this story, I call Will and I said, you know, did you realize like what you hit? He was like, Oh, I didn't hit anything, something hit me. So I just like kept going. And I'm like, Okay, no, that's really not how like this works. The amount of damage they told him that it was going to take two weeks to get his truck fixed. Two weeks. They have to replace all the doors.

It took like the... Why all of them? It messed up the motors like on the windows. So those don't work. And I said, okay, so this had to been pretty like significant. I feel like this is very much being downplayed. If you saw the photo of the guts that were on this truck. We call Ray, he'll go pick it up.

Roadkill Ray. It is absolutely, like it is the most disgusting thing. It basically looks like this thing shit on his truck. I don't think I wanna see a picture. No, I think you do. I think I'm gonna do. So I am. Kill. I will throw up.

It literally looks like it just shit everywhere. And I don't understand like, I think when you are like this, when you are like rigged away. What? Like when you're rigged tortoise? Yeah, you you you actually found it. Are you ready? No, hold on, no, hold on. Why does, that looks like grass.

No, that looks like shit. That looks like he literally scared the shit out of it. So he shit before he got hit? Did the deer live or? I don't know. I don't know, but that's what it looks like on there. Wait, so I think it's like basically Replace the whole side of his car

Well outside of that did you see the viral? Tik-tok video of the rat crawling out of an Alani can I did I didn't see it. I heard about it I saw like still images of Like the girl who did it, but I refused to watch the video. Okay so I watched the video. I'm appalled. I'm still drinking Elani. I don't care. Me either and like people kept sending me videos. No because where do people think that this shit is made? It's made in a factory. You cannot, there are people that have clean fucking houses that have rats and mice and can't get rid of them, right?

Like where do you think every packaged food that you eat and you consume, where is it made? In a goddamn factory. And you know what? You're probably eating bugs. So well, my parents always used to say if we were going to drink like canned soft drinks that we needed to wipe the tops off before we put them to our mouth because it probably has like rat piss on the top. So I've been doing that for like ever. Then I get this video sent to me when I tell you if I got it sent to me one time, I got it sent to me like hundreds of times.

Of this rat coming out of a Breezeberry Alani on my vacation, I had only Breezeberry Alanis when I got this video. And please tell me why I was like going like this Well, I feel like can you not feel like are you in there? Like wouldn't you feel it? Wouldn't it be like heavy? I don't know but also like just I need people to just pause and just think for a second like open a bag of Doritos open the pasta that you get out of a box, open anything that is packaged,

that is frozen, that is put in the fr- like anything processed, you run the risk of having- like, we know that subconsciously, but you- I just can't. I can't. Hey, Kristin is in the chat. I have a whole thing with Alani for another reason, but it's not the rat. Oh, it's not? No, it's the fact that I know I am aware that hundreds of people on Facebook tagged Alani saying that they heard about Alani through Coffee Combos podcast and Alani doesn't want to do any sort of deal, doesn't want to do a Mother's Day giveaway, doesn't want to do just a Mother's Day giveaway. Like that would be cool to just do a giveaway for Mother's Day with Coffee Combo's knowing that we put them on to that many people. They won't even

do that. So that is my bone to pick with them. I don't care about the rep. I don't give a fuck. Well, Kristen has a bone to pick with me evidently because in the chat she goes, rigamortis, not tortoise. It's rigamortis, not tortoise. It's rigamortis. Rigatortis. I've been saying it like that for my whole life. I'm a freaking dumb ass.

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["I'm On You"] Outside of that, did you see where Morgan Wallen was arrested in Nashville? I did. Well, Kristen told me about it when, when was it? She was like, Oh, it looks like Morgan Wallen got arrested. And I was like, well, is he out? Did he get released? Cause I have concert tickets next month.

Like I can't really, and I paid a lot of money for them. So I can't have him in jail. Okay, well, so I was doing unpopular opinions on Instagram stories and one of them came up, somebody said that Morganne Wall and Jelly Roll were overrated. And I'm like, first of all, that's a sin. And I can't even believe that you would come on my account

and say something like that because we all know How I feel about both of those artists, okay? I Had no idea that Walen was arrested So people were sending me like hate mail through my DM saying how could you support this? When he was arrested for throwing a chair off of a rooftop bar in Nashville and I'm like, well first of all ma'am's I went to sleep. So I was not aware of like the chair throwing in Nashville, but got to go look it up. So

be right back. It says that Morgan Wallen could face up to six years in jail after cops charged him with three felony counts of reckless endangerment for throwing a chair off of a Nashville bar roof. This happened on Sunday night and he was charged with three felony counts of reckless endangerment. The affidavit says the chair landed about three feet from officers who talked to witnesses and reviewed security footage. Witnesses told officers that they watched while and pick up the chair, throw it over the roof and laugh about it. He was released pick up the chair, throw it over the roof and laugh about it. He was released after posting $15,000 bond and is potentially looking at six years behind bars and that was according to a legal expert on Fox News. So how do we feel about all that?

Well, it gets a little bit deeper. So it says the felony charges are the most serious ones and could land Wallen in jail for up to six years if he is prosecuted and convicted of these charges. Reckless endangerment counts could have been charged with misdemeanors, which would have made it less serious and expose Wallen to a maximum of 11 months and 29 days in jail. The incident led to allegations that Wallen was distraught after learning that his former fiance, KT Smith had secretly eloped. I saw that this morning.

I would tend to believe that that is probably true. Thankfully, no one got hurt. And I also don't think that was the intent. And I think that an intention is, that is important. So not just behavior. I do think you have to be punished because someone could have gotten hurt. And it is illegal to do that. And it is dangerous to do that. And also, you should know your limits in terms of drinking. Like, if you can't handle your

liquor, then you need to probably dial it back. And I think all of those things need to be there needs to be consequences. But to say like you shouldn't support somebody for that, I just I don't know how I feel about that. Well, and it's weird because I am a supporter of the music, not necessarily the behavior. A person. Right. Correct. Correct.

So, you know, him throwing a chair off of a rooftop bar in Nashville, yes, that is absolutely horrible and there do need to be consequences for that. Six years when there was no victim, I don't know how they would determine who the victims were. Right, right, right. You know? But since no one was actually hit with the chair, I'm like six years seems a little steep.

However, there was also an eyewitness that said that he was actually trying to move the chair out of the way and that it flipped off the top of the rooftop. So do we know if that's like, who knows, like that could have been a friend that said that like, I'm not really sure who said it. I just saw it on TikTok where there was an eyewitness that stated that it was an accidental situation and it wasn't like a belligerently drunk situation.

You have been to the part of Nashville where this was, it was on Broadway. We went there when we went. I loved it, yeah. That is a very busy part of town. That's right, it was none of the choice. If someone did get hit just like randomly walking by I would be absolutely fucking pissed if I just like got concussed Well a hundred percent and I but I also think it's like I don't know

It's just it's just it's not okay, but like again six years. It's kind of crazy for that have you ever done anything like Wild and crazy are felt a certain type of way about not wanting to be with somebody but like not wanting them to be with somebody else? Yes. But like, why do we do that stuff? I think a lot of it for my experience, mine specifically, I mean, I think I've openly talked about that talked about that with like, Joe, like, I didn't actually and I literally

just recently watched a scene of like me saying like, I didn't actually, and I literally just recently watched a scene of like me saying like, I don't have anybody and now I want my family back. No, first of all, I only wanted you back because I didn't have anyone. And second of all, I didn't want you back. I just didn't want anyone else to have you. And I knew that it wasn't gonna ever be anything more than,

it was just a very weird, and I'm thinking to myself like you're 18, right? So like I was a baby, you know what I mean? And so I, and I think too, maybe like, stunted maturity, I think also just not going to therapy, not, I don't know, because I don't think I'd be that way now. I think that it's always a messier situation when there are kids involved

and you've had a child with someone, right? Like, your emotions towards that person look very different It's always a messier situation when there are kids involved and you've had a child with someone, right? Your emotions towards that person look very different when you have procreated with them versus think about breakups that you've had that you didn't have any kids with that person, right? Those probably look very different than the breakups that you have had children with someone. Yes, very different. There was a little bit of lingering or back and forth, but ultimately once we were done,

we were done. You know how sometimes there's that limbo period where it's like, are we going to try to work this out? Are we going to get back together? We try a little bit, but like, are we officially back together? Are we gonna like see other people and kind of see what else is out there? Two relationships specifically, Jordan was one of them.

Also, I was a baby at that time. And then obviously Malik, right? Like those two, and then maybe Dom, don't have kids with them. So like once they're done, you wash your hands of them and you never have to look back. Like those three people I did real fucking dirty. Those three people. I deserved

what you know, whatever they had, whatever harboring mean feelings they had about me, fine, whatever, but ultimately wash my hands clean of them and I've never seen them again. So the thing is, when you have kids with somebody and you are co parenting with them, it still exists in your life. It's not like you can just like cold turkey, cut that person off, and then you both just respectfully move on with your lives. Well, and I think to that point, no matter how much therapy is involved,

there are going to be old things or new things really that will trigger resentment because you think you might forgive someone until something else comes up. You could say it could be like a different situation, but like the same sort of thing and like you're constantly tested constantly. And so that's why when like people talk about, I don't know if they do it to you, but they do it to me. Like they talk about, Oh, well your therapy doesn't, your therapy doesn't work. Oh, it clearly doesn't work.

You have to remember, I can't just wash my hands clean of these people. I can't wash my hands clean of how I have my mom. I removed that trigger from my life, so those things aren't gonna trigger me the same way. My kids' fathers, there's three of them specifically that if something arises, I'm retested things that I've already gone through for the past 14 years

or 10 years or six years. I get all the time people saying, you know, you and will should just get back together You all should just do this or you know still in love still whatever and it's like no Actually, the love was lost a really really long time ago. I love him as a friend and I love him as Jackson's dad, but there are no lingering, like romantic feelings involved at all. And if I'm ever triggered by something that he does, it's because I still have to deal with him because we still have a kid together, regardless. Yeah. I mean, I will say like over the years, and maybe you'll get to a place like this with Will, maybe you won't, but like Joe and I don't communicate.

We have no communication whatsoever. Like we don't talk. So someone commented the other day was like, um, Kayl and Joe for most improved co-parenting. And I'm like, no, literally me and Javi. Me and Javi are, you guys know, strictly email, but we are so cordial. Like we might not, we might not be friendly in public, but if Lincoln is there and we need to have a face-to-face conversation, like at a sport event,

whatever, cordial, straight to the point, no extra bullshit, we don't fight. Me and Javi, to this day, have not fought, oh God. And probably since I probably said something on a podcast, like last year or something, we have no arguments whatsoever. There is nothing to argue about because no lines are blurred. We have no arguments whatsoever. There is nothing to argue about because no lines are blurred. We're not overly friendly. We don't talk if

we don't have to. It is chop, chop, lollipop. Get it done, get it out the door and we're done, right? Yep. Joe and I don't communicate at all. We don't talk. We don't text. There's nothing. When you're looking for new ways to save, you can reach your financial goals easier and still have an occasional treat with Chime checking accounts. You get features like fee-free overdraft up to $200 with SpotMe or get paid up to two days early with direct deposit. You can learn more at Chime.com slash combos, but Lindsay and I have been talking about this for years.

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tell Isaac that I'll be there at three and not four. Like you can't go to afterschool. That is the communication that we have. We are not friendly. We, it's, there's just no. But is there a reason why? Like, did it just like stem out of nowhere? Y'all have always kind of like maintained

this type of co-parenting relationship. I think it's been, Joe and I have been like this for a long time. I don't know when it started or why it started. I don't think, I just think that the older Isaac gets, yes, we're gonna have to like, at some point, right? Like Isaac's going to, he got into the high school that he wants to go to.

And so maybe when we're trying to figure out back to school for that, maybe we'll have to communicate just because Joe and I actually live in two different school districts. And that school district that Isaac is going to is different than both of our school districts. And so I think maybe like for that, but I don't know. Like, I mean, it is what it is.

Like, I'm not hurt by it. I'm not upset by it, but I just, I think that with that can come frustrations and with that can come feelings of resentment and things like that, because we don't have, we're like, Javi and I lay everything out on the table, matter of fact, leave the feelings out of it. And truthfully

think that if things continue that way, like we are the most improved relationship, you know what I mean? Or co parenting friendship, co parenting relationship. People all the time around here that I know personally, they're like, how do you and we'll get along so well. And I said, because we got to a point where our personal feelings really don't matter because we're not personally involved. Like, he is personally involved with my child and I am personally involved with my child,

but we are no longer personally involved. So it's very easy for me to send a quick text, like for example, Jackson's getting his bottom braces on today and it's Will's day. So I text him and said, Hey, do you know that Jackson had a orthodontist appointment at 330 today? He texts me back. No, I did not, but I'll make arrangements. Like that is the type of communication that is- Very matter of fact, straight to the point. That's how Javi and I are. And it's like, I pick and choose. So I pick and choose what I'm gonna respond to,

too, which is like, Lincoln's in two basketball leagues, and one of them is like, not great at all. And then he's they like overlapped by two weeks. And I was like, Hey, he emailed me, he's like, Hey, are my picking Lincoln up? And I'm like, Yes, and don't forget about basketball practice. And he was like, he's on the tribal team now. Like, why would I take him to that one? And I'm gonna go and I'm like, I literally told Kristen, I'm like, I'm not going to respond. It's not worth an argument. And if Javi is not going to take

him and there's only two... It is what it is. I'm not arguing, period. And you know what I mean? So it's like- But that takes therapy to get there. It does take therapy. And it also doesn't mean that it's a straight trajectory up. You know what I mean? That doesn't mean that the next time something like this arises, that there won't be some feelings. But Javi and I lay it all out on the line and it's in writing, it's in, I don't know. We don't have to go on and on about it,

but it's just, you know, it is what it is. I definitely think that through therapy, I've learned to pick and choose my battles and what is important and what I'm going to go to battle for. And I sit back, if I get a text about something and I'm just like so frustrated or my response to myself is like, fucking really? I need to sit on it for a second before I ever respond or choose that I'm not going to respond to whatever it is because it's not worth the battle.

It's not. You have to pick and choose what you're going to put your energy towards. Okay, I have something that I saw this mom, it was like on parents of TikTok or something, and wanted to get your thoughts on this. It's a quote from this mom and she said, I don't know who needs to hear this. Going all out for your kids materialistically may be healing your trauma, but it's creating more for your children. I just signed at 18 and found myself in this trap of feeling like I had to go all out for him.

The reason behind me doing this was because I wanted to give him the childhood that I did not have. Over time, I began to realize how detrimental it was for him because now our biggest thing with him is he does not want to be told no, and it seems like nothing is ever enough. Ultimately, it all reflects back on me and my choices. What are your thoughts?

This is something that I'm struggling with. And I think about it all the time. I literally, while we were in Mexico, I shit you not, and I'm gonna show you, Kristen doesn't even know this, but she's about to find out right now. And tell you the date on Saturday, whatever the date was on Saturday,

I literally typed in my notes, soup kitchen. We were in vacation when I typed that because nothing happened on vacation, nothing happened. That in combination with something that Javi said to Lincoln and then said to me about the entitlement and about the, you know, they don't understand the value of the money that goes into things we do for them. They don't understand the privilege they have. They don't, it value of the money that goes into things we do for them. They don't understand the privilege they have. It is very healing to us. I fully understand

where this mom is coming from, 1000%. Talk about Lisa Frank. My daughter isn't even one years old. She's not even one year old yet, and I'm buying her Lisa Frank because I never fucking had it. You think my daughter gets a fuck about Lisa Frank? No, but you do. You're fulfilled from it. I do. I'm getting it for her. My daughter doesn't care. You know what I mean? It's like those types of things that I'm like, I literally type soup kitchen because I'm like, okay, I have a lot of updates with like the land and the house building and all of that. And I'm like thinking to myself, my kids will have no fucking clue about the entitlement and stuff like that. And so when she says that this is like,

they don't wanna be told no, I told Kristen yesterday on the phone, she called me, I'm on my way home from New York, and I said, we need to adjust their money, their trust funds, because of what I'm doing right now, I'm so scared that when they get that money, when they turn 21, they're gonna blow it. I said, so we need a little bit at 21, a little bit at 25, a little bit at 30 kind of thing

because they're so used to this quick, quick, quick go lifestyle and they're used to getting everything they want. They might not get it when they want it, but they get it. And it's a scary place to be. I think that this is probably very common with people who did not have growing up in their childhoods and then they have as adults. And they're trying to fix childhood wounds through their children.

Correct. Right? My dad didn't run into money until I was in eighth grade. I don't know if you knew this information or not. Okay, so like just before Isaac's age, cause, oh no, Isaac's in eighth grade. Yeah, so basically lived a very, very normal lifestyle up until that point, but then it did become lavish at that point. But the impact that I feel like it had on me is very different

than the impact I feel like it has on my younger siblings because they had it for so much longer. So I think the expectations were set at that point. And that is why I don't live a lavish lifestyle. We have, and Jackson probably has more than most, but we're not doing all these lavish things because I do feel like I would be doing a disservice to him if he can't keep that up in adulthood. Oh, okay. So that's interesting. So you're not doing it because you don't want to, or you don't have the means to. You're doing it because you don't know if he can keep up with it. That's something that I think about often with people in general. I don't know if it's because

of the way that we are on social media and you can see what people have and you can see what people are doing. And I think that probably plays a part, but I do often think about, you know, my best friend from childhood that I've talked about on the podcast before that struggled with addiction and things like that. She came from, and I lived with her. So like I, like her parents took me to Mexico. Like she very much came from a very well-to-do household,

income, all of this, and she's struggling with addiction to this day. And so it's like one of those things that like, and I'm not saying that it was because of the money or anything, but she kind of had the freedom to kind of do whatever. And then she also had everything she ever wanted. She went on these vacations. She was handed things left and right. And so I think that, you know, in some ways that can lead to self-destruction a little

bit when, you know, in some ways that can lead to self-destruction a little bit when, you know, And I mean, I don't, I really don't want it to sound like my parents did not do for me in the same way. It was just different because you went so long living a very normal lifestyle. And I think about that too because Isaac doesn't remember his normal lifestyle. Does that make sense? Like Isaac doesn't, by the time I like was doing all the things, he was like eight. Cause I think we've been doing this tradition for like the vacations and things like that.

We've been going on very like extravagant vacations for the past eight years. I think that he, before that, I mean, he doesn't remember living in the one bedroom. He doesn't remember living in a two bedroom. He doesn't remember the first house that Javi and I bought in Delaware. Like he doesn't remember those things. And so he doesn't, even though I can say, oh, like you didn't always have this and the tone is different for your brothers. It truly isn't because he doesn't remember those

times. Right. And see, I, I very much remember the times that my parents struggled and what they did and what that looked like. Very, very much remember that. But by the time I was in eighth grade, I think my youngest sibling was maybe entering preschool or kindergarten at that point. So they always had it. And my biggest fear, and Will and I have had private conversations. Now it's not going to be private because I'm talking about it on here. However, we have had these conversations about giving Jackson basic necessities and learning the difference between needs and wants and also

understanding that everybody can't do the same thing that you're getting to do. This is a privilege and it's not a requirement for us as parents to do these things. And if we're getting you something, then you need to have respect for us because we are providing that for you. We just went to the beach for four days and it was probably one of the most like downplayed last minute beach trips and had so much fun. And one of the days we just went to the arcade and rode go- minute beach trips and had so much fun. And one of the days we just went to the arcade and rode go-karts and he had so much fun.

So I say all of this to say, you don't have to do lavish things for your kids to be fulfilled. A lot of it is time spent, like quality time spent with your children. 100%, 100%. But I also, I just think, and you and I are different in like how we spend our funds, I think, because

you, I think, don't do... Like you said, you're not doing all the lavish things where I'm more inclined to do those things. And so- But you also came from far less than me as well. So I think that that plays- A factor. Yeah.

But that being said, this year I want my kids to be involved in all the give back that we do. Like, I think a lot of people sleep on the amount of give back that we do. I just now I want to include my kids in all of it. Like my kids need to they do they need to experience like the soup kitchens because yeah, they can help pick winners for our giveaways. But that's not doesn't have the same impact as like actual community outreach. And that's why I typed it in my phone because I was like, we're not doing things this summer in terms of like, we're taking a break from sports again, all summer.

I want to do smaller trips like you do. Like the three day, the four day things like that. But with that being said, I want to make sure that we actively make time to do outreach and out give backs because my kids, they need to feel that. They need to see that. They need to appreciate what they have. It's so interesting that you brought up the soup kitchen because it's something that I have wanted to take Jackson to do.

How do you do it? Do you just show up or do you have to like prearrange it? No, I'm pretty sure that you can contact your local soup kitchen and they can tell you like when you can come and volunteer because you'll have to let them know like how many people are coming to volunteer. I don't know. Sometimes certain places you have to do like a background check or stuff like that. I wanted to do this on Thanksgiving with him for a very long time.

However, now that we're divorced, I only get him every other Thanksgiving. Right. But I do think the impact would be so great on a holiday to take him to see that like these people are definitely struggling. And this is, this like is so sad. And we could be at home with hundreds of dollars of food and we're probably being so wasteful because it's only two of us here eating. And I just feel like he would get so much more

out of the holiday for seeing that. Yeah, I agree. I did the angel tree. Oh, I've done that too. Yeah, we did. I did the angel tree. Oh, I've done that too. Yeah, we did that for Christmas this year and then the barely famous Christmas thing. So before Will and I had Jackson in college, we always did like a kid from the angel tree.

It was like our adopted child. And it was so fun to buy, you know, for like a little kid, we didn't have one but we were so like in love at that time. And we knew that we shouldn't be having a kid right now. So we just picked angels off the tree. That's so cute. We have to talk about IQ bar and someone tagged us in this may love IQ bars because they heard it on our podcast. I love that they heard about it from us. I love IQ bar, but I equally love IQ mix. I feel like it has helped me with my water intake so much.

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because I need to know what your thoughts on this, what your thoughts are on this, because I think that we're gonna have the same outlook on it. So this mother talks about how she decides that after her daughter is assaulted at school for the third time, not sexual assault, she wasn't essayed, but it was just assault, right? A boy is putting his hands on his daughter, on her daughter. The third time she decides to press charges on a 10-year-old. I don't even know what charges look like against a 10 year old or how they even manage that

through the legal system. If you know, please inform me, but I don't know. She went through all, according to her video, she went through all the proper channels for the first two times to no avail. Nothing was done, nothing was done, nothing was done. And now the third time it has happened and charges are being pressed. Personally, if it was my daughter, I would do the same. And even if they are dropped, even if they are dropped, this is where I'm willing to take it.

If you put your hands on my kid again, that's kind of how I feel. So I may drop them, but this is how far I'm willing to take it if you, because clearly every single channel has failed. The system has failed up until this point. What is next? How far is this going to go? So I don't know how y'all's legal system works wherever you live, but there was something that happened to me years ago that unfortunately I had to press charges against someone and they took out a warrant for this person's arrest. It took them forever to serve the

warrant and arrest the person. When that happened, this was like weeks after the fact, maybe even months after the fact of the event, I was in a place where I wanted to drop the charges even though they were valid. In our state, they will not allow you to do that. Once a warrant is issued, they have to make the arrest on that warrant. Then it becomes the state versus said person. Same thing happened to me. My question is, the charges that were filed against this 10 year old, are they able

to be dropped? Because if not, does that become a part of that child's permanent record? I don't think so. I don't think so, no. Like you're a minor? You're a minor. I have to say. It's like, where is it going to go?

Because if he's constantly doing this and you've sought through every single channel prior to this, where is this gonna go next? And is someone else gonna get hurt? Is a 10 year old situation like where you go to like juvenile detention center? I'm not sure, I think. Like that's terrifying.

My question is, is why is the school system not brought the parents in a conference together? They don't. Um, when Isaac had his incident last year, um, they would not let me in the same room as the other person's parents. And I was actually not even allowed to know the student's name who assaulted Isaac. So the only reason why I knew was because Isaac told me, but the school district itself is not allowed to tell you. And they also did very, I mean, the school's security police officer,

I mean, she is a police officer, she gave us our two options, but she, this was also a boy on boy, not a girl, a little girl getting beat up by a boy. But those, there was one that was like community service and then one that, I think both were not gonna be on as permanent, like a permanent situation. One was community service and then the other one was like,

I think it was like an actual criminal charge. The school then still let things slip through the cracks where that boy was then in the same lunch period as Isaac and I lost my shit. I lost my shit. I think in this specific situation, unfortunately, this mother really doesn't have another option. No, there's no. So while I do feel like taking out charges or pressing charges on a 10-year-old seems to be very extreme.

I don't agree. I think that maybe there's no other option because you can't tell me that the school has not contacted those parents to try to remedy this child's behavior at home or at the school to the point that this mother feels like the only way she can get any type of relief

is pressing charges. I don't think it's extreme though. I think that's what she has to do. Because if my daughter is getting punched in the chest, punched in the chest, Lindsay, this isn't like I'm grabbing your arm, not that it's okay, but like it's not like I'm grabbing your arm at recess and I'm just like taking things a little too far.

You know, like if you're repeatedly getting punched in the chest by a little boy, like now I'm gonna go fight somebody. Like now I'm gonna go, now we're both going to jail. Like I don't, it's just, it doesn't feel extreme to me because I feel like her hands are tied and that is, I mean, she says in the video too, in the beginning, if you guys will post it, she says like,

she doesn't want to see this child like go through like a court system, but like you're not listening. There's no other, like the parent, in my opinion, the little boy's parents should have pulled him out at that point. I agree. My whole heart is yours is like, I told my kids to just the other day, I was like, listen to me and listen to me carefully. I said, I don't want to hear jokes about butts.

I don't want to hear jokes about touching, you know, each other inappropriately. I don't want to hear fart jokes, not fart jokes. I don't want to hear penis jokes, but jokes, nothing. I said, because one person hears you incorrectly, or you think that you're joking and you take it too far. You're on a sex registry. You're on a sex offender. Like I get your brothers are gross. I'm so scared of my kids being accused of something. So I don't play when it comes to stuff like that. I don't fucking play. Do not grab somebody too hard by accident.

Don't punch someone too hard by accident. Don't punch somebody at all. I don't play when it comes to that because one little thing could ruin your fucking life. Oh, absolutely. I have those same conversations at home and I'm like, listen, you monkeying around and playing and saying all the shit that you say That's not great, but I can promise you if I get a call about it. It's over for you game over buddy

Game over game over I want to do something funny though I want to change switch gears and talk about what old people say that we do and we call it normal but they think it's really weird. Okay. Okay. This is from old people everyone. I found this on I think it was Buzzfeed maybe. Yeah, Buzzfeed. People posting their entire lives online. I'm probably excessively private but it's really crazy how people are so willing and even eager to broadcast their personal lives to the world. I don't think people fully appreciate how possible it is to string together little details from multiple sources and form a detailed picture of someone's life.

That should scare people. I don't disagree with that. Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty... Yeah. So when I was going to buy this house, like remember when I was on my house hunting journey? Yeah. Okay.

So I didn't end up buying that house. Um, I know people message me literally every day about it asking if I did. I did not. However, I had no idea that there was like a Google reverse image search. I didn't know about this, but I found out through this, I'd posted a photo of the house, not thinking anybody would know like how to find it. People started sending me the address. That's how people leaked. People found out the address where I live, even though I blurred it in the map when I posted my land, people still figured it out. Isn't that insane? Yeah. I mean, I also think that like, why are you doing that? You know what I mean?

Like that part is like, maybe I shouldn't put that much information out, but I like blurred the map. Like I blurred when I posted like that I paid in full for my land or whatever. And people still did. They like found the exact lot, exactly what I paid for all of that. And I just think like that part is weird. Oh, that's it's it's so extreme and weird. However, I do feel like I've pulled back a decent amount, posting like all of my personal stuff and like being very careful to talk about certain personal things which people find out about that stuff anyway. I was made aware of some things yesterday that people know about my life that I told Kristen I was like, while I feel like I'm in hiding, evidently I'm not. So that is just very weird.

And we do way over post and way over share things that we probably should not. Yeah, I would agree with that. The next one is, I'm not really comfortable with all the ads for betting and sports book platforms. Wait, what? I'm not really comfortable with all the ads for betting and sports book platforms.

I don't get it. You know how people like can bet on sports with like apps and stuff? Yeah. Yeah, the the old couple or the old people are not really comfortable with the ads. I don't really care. Not being willing or able to just be superficially nice in social settings. Sometimes it's okay to just be pleasant instead of making your unique and very specific viewpoint heard.

I agree with that. I agree with that. I wholeheartedly agree with that. Kids and some adults mostly I see kids with tablets and phones at full volume out in public. I have no interest in hearing other people's games, videos, music, or phone conversations. Agreed. I also agree with that. I'm not a big tablet person during meal times and stuff like that. And so like the little times that I do let Creed use my phone, I'm like, you need to turn that down. Like I'm even whispering, like nobody wants, I don't want to hear it. So nobody else wants to hear it. Okay, so even if we're in the car,

like traveling on a trip or we're just like, you know, we might be traveling to Target, okay? I told Jackson, I swear to you, I do not want to hear you scrolling through videos where I'm hearing like little blips of like five seconds of videos. First of all, absolutely not. That gives me a headache

And I'm also trying to listen to Moria Wallen. So I'm annoyed Put your ear pods in like just put your put your ear pods in I don't need to hear it and nobody else needs to hear it Nobody else cares what you're watching or cares to hear the content that's coming out of your phone. Nobody cares. Nobody cares Lincoln does that Lincoln and Jackson are very much alike in that way. Like, please stop. Stamps.com. Let's talk about this because I just started a Poshmark and I'm super excited to start this venture and kind of share my pieces that I've loved. And so I'm going to be needing pickups way more often than I ever have before. have before. And for anybody who has a lot of mailing and shipping to do, stamps.com is the obvious choice for a reason. It streamlines your process and makes your business more efficient, freeing up you to focus on making bigger decisions. And you can take care of mailing and shipping wherever you are, even on the go with stamps.com mobile app. And

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police. And so if someone sends me a text and it is not properly spelled or like the use of the word is being used wrong, like one of those, I'm going to send you a correction to that text to let you know. I don't know if your schools are operating the same way down in Georgia, but some schools are pushing kids through as long as they spell on paper what it sounds like. So like- I think that's probably pretty common. T-H-A-R, there, right?

Say like over there and then Lux writes there, T-H-A-R. They would push them through. They're not going to correct it anymore. Is this part of the No Child Left Behind Act? I believe so, but don't quote me on that. That's just one of the teachers that I'm friends with at one of the sports, the kids sports was telling me that they're no longer pushing, they're no longer like going to correct those things as long as they basically are phonetically. I was going to say like the phonetically way that... So I just think it works. Oh yeah.

Okay, so my dad, he spells this one wrong and I've tried to correct him on this for years to the point that I just finally gave up. If you and I are going to do something, how do you spell that? We are going to do something. We are? spell that like we are going to do something? We are like with the conjunction. Mm-hmm We apostrophe re okay Where are we like where are in a conjunction? Mm-hmm Where Apostrophe wait, like are you asking if I put where are together? where are together? Wait, can you put where are together?

Where? Oh, you're talking about where. Where, yeah. W-H-E-R-E. Okay. And use W-E-R-E in a sentence. We're going to... No. We were at the store. Yes. Please tell me why my dad has not figured that out. None of those. No, let me not figured that out. None of those. None of those, okay? No, let me tell you, and professionals with degrees, professionals with degrees have this problem, okay? Are you ready for this one? What year did you graduate in high school?

2008. The apostrophe goes where it's cut off. It does not Go like this. So it goes okay, so 2008 to 008 but the Thing what is it called? apostrophe apostrophe goes before the first

Because you're cutting off the two and the zero. You're cutting it off, right? So when you write don't, do not, do not, don't. Are we turning into a school podcast? Where? Hold on. No, because I'm sick of it and I see professionals do it all the time. I hired someone who couldn't fucking tell me where the apostrophe goes when they cut off the year and I corrected her on it. You're embarrassing me. I hired you and I'm paying you thousands of dollars a month and you don't know your fucking shit. And you're a PR person? Fuck off. I'm not paying you thousands of dollars for you to not know because if you put out a public statement for me and you get the apostrophe is wrong. And I paid you thousands of dollars. My favorite. Hold on.

It's making me cry. The apostrophe goes where the letter or the numbers or whatever the fuck are missing. Do not. The apostrophe is where the O would go in not international if you look at a sign a big fucking sign to go to an international airport. International, if you look at a sign, a big fucking sign to go to an international airport. International, int, apostrophe, because this is where the missing letters are. So I graduated in 2010. I graduated in apostrophe 10. Yes, correct.

That is correct. We need to move on because I feel like we've gotten so heated on this that it's just too much. You know what? It's giving very hostile. It's giving angry and I'm angry. It's giving hostile. It's giving.

It kills toxic self. Kills old toxic self came out to play. Oh my god. Well, how do you feel? Okay, we've talked about marriage 100 times. We've talked about divorce and then getting back together. We've also talked about relationship with kids, relationship with no kids. Say you were to get remarried. Say you and your new partner do not have a child together. You guys get married, you guys get divorced. How do you feel about spousal support

if there's no children? Well, by law, you're entitled to it if you're married for like 10 years, I think. Okay, by law, but ethically and morally speaking, how do you feel about it? Well, it depends on the circumstances. That would be like, okay, let's say, because this was an issue that I had

whenever I was married, when I was just stay at home mom with Jackson and Will was career boy. Career boy. If I was a stay at home mom in a hypothetical situation with no income for 10 years, I was married to career boy for 10 years and I have raised our child basically solo while you're out career boying. Yeah, gallivanting around. Yeah. Yes, I'm getting spousal support in that situation.

Now with no child, number one, my question would be why would I not be working creating a life for myself? Okay, but remember that one situation that we talked about where the woman made significantly less than the man and they were like gonna buy a house together or something remember that and he drove like a really nice car do you remember that no did they were children involved I think she had kids but like they didn't have kids together or something. And what did we decide? Was she in the support?

No, we, this didn't have to do with spousal support. It had to do with like the division of their financial responsibilities. Right. Oh, right, right, right. I remember. Okay. So let's say that you are in a situation and y'all don't have a kid together and you're married for 10 years and you are

working and you make significantly less than your partner. It doesn't matter if you're the man or the woman. You get used to and accustomed to a lifestyle that you guys have led together. Right. Okay. Well, what if the person who made significantly more money was the cause of the divorce? At that point, I feel like you were entitled to spousal support.

Okay, so say I'm gonna use the woman as the breadwinner, just because I feel like that's more and more prevalent. Women is the breadwinner, dad's stay at home dad. Or no, sorry, husband is stay at home husband, or he kind of just makes an average salary, whatever. You're saying if wife cheats is the cause of the divorce she should pay alimony correct okay I think it behind that I could I could get behind that it was like an amicable divorce though I don't really think that it's fair for either person to have to like pay each other stuff I mean maybe

like a division of of marital, but further from that, not necessarily. Like, you know, cleave way and go on your own. Like you do you and I do me. My divorce was not messy. Like we didn't get into like the whole spousal support, child support, none of that. It was just like a division of assets that were acquired while married. And that's it. I couldn't imagine having to pay. How do you really move on with your life? Well, and that's, I think some people, I know someone who had like a start and end time for it, right?

So like this article specifically, I think it was talking about Ariana Grande. So she was like having to pay spousal support or whatever. To me that sounds crazy, but also I don't know what, I don't know what the reasoning was behind it. I know someone who had a divorce. I'm pretty sure the person who made more money ended up paying alimony, but it was like for a certain timeframe.

It was like, okay, you'll get alimony from this date to this date, and these are the things that it will cover sort of thing. I guess I could get behind that because it's like, okay, for example, if you buy a car together and you wouldn't have necessarily bought that car without this person's income, now you're gonna have to cover the difference

kind of thing, like those sort of things. I can understand that. Yeah, and so there was no kids involved in that situation. Also with like last names too, it's like if there's no kids together, but you built your brand or a company or your public, what is it, Like your public- Presence?

Presence, thank you. Yeah, like you built your public presence around that last name. Do you give it back? If you like, is that part of the deal? Because I know like for Elijah's marriage, when he got divorced, one of the things was she had to give the last,

like she had to change her last name. So I thought that was something. Oh wow. Yeah. So I think that that's probably actually pretty common for people who don't have children together. But in my situation, when I filed for divorce, I also filed for my name restoration. But then I can also use, and in our settlement agreement, I can also use his last name for

purposes of Jackson. I had zero reason to hold onto that last name when I got divorced, but for purposes of school or like anything that Jackson's doing, for example, I don't want my last name to look different than his last name. And maybe that's a problem with me. I don't know, really haven't discovered why I feel that way. I go by Chrisley for everything except for school purposes and then I use Campbell. Yeah. And we've talked about that before. I just was curious to see what your thoughts

are. I mean, I guess just like everything else, there's like a gray area. And so last names and spousal support when there's no kids involved, I think it really varies by situation. I think in general and overall without getting into each individual case, I would say probably doesn't make sense unless there are specific circumstances. Agreed. On that note, let's do foul play. All right. I have a foul play for y'all. Please put my name because why not? Right? Everyone should know how foul this is, so here it goes. I've been with this man for 12 years, married for almost three. in May of 2023. He starts messaging the

girl he works with. He's a he's in gas construction so late hours, etc. She's a flagger. She holds a sign. Not cute at all. Wait, why not? That's actually really cool. And I think they make a lot of money. I don't know how much they make. I don't know. I'm pretty sure they make really at least around here. I'm pretty sure they make pretty good money. Anyways, he starts messaging her, telling her she's pretty

and how he'll hit her up the following week because I'm jealous and child support costs too much to piss me off. Bullshit, I just demand respect. No jealousy here. So he didn't delete them all the way and I found them. Let me say, I don't go through his stuff, but he had a weird vibe going for two days

and I knew in my gut something was going on, so I looked, looked whatever so I woke him up flipping out and he swore it was nothing like that he said he wouldn't message again I'm too forgiving maybe I just loved him fast forward to June 2023 he comes home from work one day password on his phone was changed which was odd because he's never done that except when he cheated I asked did you work today he said yes for a little bit and then I went out eat, but couldn't tell me with who. So I knew in my gut he was with her, but no proof. So a few days go by and he's hiding his phone like the nuclear launch codes are on that motherfucker.

And I was like, what the fuck? Are you texting this girl? And he was like, yes, but we're only friends. Actually, she's really depressed and needs a friend. He then proceeds to say, y'all have a lot in common. Y'all need to meet up. Y'all could be good friends actually. So in my head, I thought if he's asking me to be her friend, he's not fucking her. Well, he wanted to do it right under your nose. That's what he was doing. I immediately thought that too. I also asked this girl multiple times that she was messing

with my husband and she swore she wasn't and that she was talking to someone else. Two weeks later, he goes to work one morning. He goes early, so I'm still asleep and he doesn't come home. He moves in with this girl. And now according to Facebook, they love each other. I was hurt, devastated. We have four kids together. They were hurt and I'm good, but they were hurt, but I'm good. My kids are good. I've made peace with it. I'm happier alone. I love seeing this podcast. I love you both and Kristin. I love Kale's success story. I've been telling myself for years, I'm going alone. I love seeing this podcast. I love you both and Kristin. I love Kale's success story. I've been telling myself for years, I'm gonna get a foul play story one day and here it is.

My name is Samantha and I'm from Virginia. I hate this for her, but also in my sneaky days, like when I was sneaky, this was something that I probably would have done, would be like, oh no, be friends with them. Like go be friends with them because you're not gonna think anything of them. That is so toxic. It's so bad. It's childish. It's immature. It's disgusting. If you knew that you had feelings for somebody else, that

is the time where you need to end the relationship. And I'm not even saying that that's okay. But as we all know, like there's gray area in life. It's never going to be black and white. So unfortunately, when you're in a relationship, I do think that we're still human and you will find attraction to other people. But it's like, do you act on it or not? And at the point that you feel like you cannot keep those feelings in line, and you're gonna, you're gonna step out of your marriage or your relationship, is at a point where you're like, Okay, I need to end this. So that should have been done and clear, like, the second your your your wife had suspicions, you should have been totally upfront clear like the second year your your your wife had suspicions

You should have been totally upfront and let her decide if she wants to stay or not but see I feel like Just based off the first part of this story where he tells the other woman that his wife is jealous and child support costs too much, I feel like he was mentally and emotionally checked out of that situation. And the only reason he was staying was because he maybe felt like Samantha was crazy and he didn't want to pay her child support. No, I think he was just saying that so that he had his cake and eat it too.

I think he thought that he could be in both relationships and have both things and have his family on one hand and then have the relationship at work with the because it's, it's fun and exciting and it's thrilling. And I think for all about that to me sounds fun, exciting or thrilling. It does sound like stress, but men I think they don't think that way. And so, or they like compartmentalize. And so I think in some in some trios and unknown polygamous relationship, they think like the newness, the excitingness and all of that it's a thrill, right? And that's why a lot of times you don't it doesn't end up working out with

the mistress or the other person, the other husband, the other man or whatever, because once you're officially with that person, the thrill is gone, the sneaking around is gone, all of that is gone. And so then you have real you're hit with like real life relationship shit on top of the fact that you you lose them how you get them. So this girl has no clue that he just left a wife and four kids because this is like a fun situation. Well, what happens next? What is the next step here? And I'm not saying that happens all the time. So in this situation, I feel like the flagger girl, I don't know what her name is, but there

are a lot of women who feel like they won when they're pulling a man away from a situation where he is married and he has children. It gives them some type of thrill that, wow, I am the chosen one. He chose me. But like, I promise you from situations that I know, he chose you for the moment. Yeah, that's exactly. Like it's not going to be a long lasting situation because just like you said, you, my nanny always said when I was growing up, um, you leave them where you found them.

You leave them where you found them. You lose them where you found them, you lose them how you get them, all of that. Yep. And I just feel really bad for Samantha from Virginia. Thank you for listening to the podcast. We love you and I'm sorry that your ex-husband's a piece of shit. Yeah. I mean, she is better off alone, but also she didn't deserve that. That's not how she... She deserved to be able to decide for herself, hey, you know

what? You go do what you got to do and I'll take the kids from, you know what I mean? Like she deserved to have, be left with a little bit of fucking dignity. Like that sucks. Absolutely. Um, next foul play. Okay, ladies, I can't even type this without shuddering. My foul play is not sex related or shot related. It's worse. I'm currently trying to eat keto and decided making tacos for dinner would be a good choice. Add some frozen keto tortillas in my freezer so I figured that I would just leave them on the counter

for a bit to defrost. My husband made hamburger into taco meat in the meantime. As he can plow through a shit ton of tacos, I, being the great wife I am, threw some chicken breasts in the microwave because I didn't think that we would have enough taco meat with just the ground beef. So we had everything ready for both beef and chicken tacos and my husband, great guy that he is,

says, here honey, I started your plate for you. He handed me a plate with two keto shells and I make chicken and a beef taco. Settling in to eat, I noticed my shell was a little soggy. I said, wow, these keto shells really do not defrost well. Took another couple bites and noticed it was not just soggy, but downright wet and a little pink. I took my plate back to the kitchen and immediately froze. I said to him, honey, where did you get my plate? Oh no. He replied that he used the one that I had on the counter

by the microwave, the one I used to defrost the chicken. I ate almost an entire taco soaked in raw chicken defrost juice. I still gag thinking about it. Okay. I would have immediately thrown up. Like there would be nothing left in my stomach. First of all, I've never heard

of making chicken in the microwave. That's number one that I just wanna say. Like I've never heard of that. No, she defrosted it. She didn't cook it in the microwave. She defrosted it in the microwave. Well, how did she cook it? Like the beef probably for tacos.

Okay. I don't defrost meat. So like, I don't know. I've never used a microwave to defrost meat ever. Like I've never done it. Ever. I'm not saying it's wrong, but. I don't know.

I'm just like really weird about meat. A lot of times if I'm making something with meat, I will go to the store that day to get it because I'm terrified of getting like some type of foodborne illness. Chicken absolutely freaks me out and I get so many adversions from meat all the time.

Yep, I'm the same way. Especially about chicken. Chicken. Okay, I need to ask you these questions. Do you rinse your chicken off or not? No. I used to, like for my whole life, used to rinse it off,

but then I saw a couple of videos on TikTok that said that you are not supposed to rinse it off. Yeah, you're not supposed to, but also what is the purpose? Because if you, like, so many people are going to disagree, but like, if you cook chicken at the temperature that it's supposed to be cooked at, all of this stuff is going to be cooked off anyway. So washing it and getting that bacteria that you're going to cook off anyway, all over my kitchen sink and the risk of spreading it in my kitchen sink and on my

countertops and not missing a spot when I go back to clean it up is a bigger risk than me cooking on like, because most likely I'm going to cook my chicken is a bigger risk than me cooking on all, like, cause most likely I'm gonna cook my chicken at a higher temperature than it needs to be because I have such a weird, I'm so scared of like salmonella and like other like foodborne illnesses that I just cook it. Same. I am now that same way, but I used to very much be

like a chicken washer offer. Do you cut the fat part? Every last piece. Every last piece of that I even think might have gristle, a weird texture. Because my kids, I'm the same way. Like we'll all gag where like if there's cartilage or something, Elijah doesn't give a shit.

Where I can't, like I will mutilate a chicken breast to get every last piece off. Like I don't fuck with that. Me too. Okay, the last question that I have about chicken, do you use gloves? Oh no, but that's actually a really good idea. I use gloves.

I keep them underneath my sink. Can you just tell me the ones that you use? I mean, they're just like, just like latex gloves. Kitchen gloves, kitchen, meat gloves, meat cutting. Oh, they have meat cutting gloves. Yeah, like, I never touch meat with my bare hands ever. I don't want it underneath my fingernails. They have like steel gloves. I don't how do you clean? I will send I will send you the ones I have because mine are disposable and like I just throw them away, but I feel so much better knowing that there's something weird about it too.

Like, I don't want my germs on the meat, but I don't want like the germs from the meat on me. So always gonna use that. Last thing I'm gonna say on this, I would be absolutely disgusted and need immediately to go to the ER, knowing that I just ate a keto, number one, a keto taco shell.

Are they not good? I don't know, I'm not keto. I think they're just like low carb, which is what I need to be just because, but I mean, it doesn't sound bad to me, but the chicken juice- The juice? Like I immediately have food poisoning

and I don't know if I have it. On that note, I'm going to get my brows and my lashes done. So just wanted to say thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app. Follow and read on Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

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