Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Icks & The Tradwife Life

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. Kail's out here taking pictures of our recording. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Cabos. We don't really have time for a full intro because I talked to Kail last week about wanting to do biggest Ix on the podcast. And I think these are

so fun. I actually found a list on Yahoo Life and I did not want her to see them in advance. So we're just going to jump right into it. Are you ready Kale? I'm ready. Okay. So the first one, they have poor personal hygiene. Ick. That's an absolute ick. I cannot stand, okay, one of my biggest icks is someone getting in the bed and they did not shower and they're getting on like your clean sheets.

Yeah. I cannot stand that. Or somebody who does not hold any value in brushing your teeth like multiple times a day. That's disgusting. I hate that. Like, why are you, as a grown person, why are you going to bed without brushing your teeth?

Like that absolutely disgusts me. Really quickly, just to touch on the tooth brushing thing. I know a grown man adult who is roughly six years. Grown man adult. Grown man adult who is roughly six years. Grown man adult. Grown man adult. Well, because like, you know, like there's like grown men and then there's like truly adult grown men.

He's not a grown man adult. I don't know why I said that. He's a grown man, but he's, he wasn't. He is now. He is six years older than me. And I remember being in high school. He was like an adult. He should have been an adult and he would have the nastiest layer of plaque

kicked on his teeth. You just knew that he wasn't brushing his teeth. I just couldn't understand it because I was like, you're literally older than me and you still aren't doing proper hygiene. He said, you're literally older than me and you're not doing it. No, I cannot stand that. I'm going to even take this ick into ick with kids. Do not lie to me and tell me that you brush your teeth because I know in fact that you didn't. Ask my children how many times I've sent them back to the bathroom.

I've seen them brush their teeth. I know they brush their teeth and they missed a spot. And you can see it, especially with kids cause they eat like stuff that builds up quickly, like graham crackers, goldfish, that type of thing. I will literally be like, no, you missed a spot, go. Go brush your teeth. I don't even care.

I don't even care if it's going to make us late. I don't care if I have to go into that school office and my pajamas, that is a consequence that you're about to pay for not doing what you're fucking supposed to be doing. Are you a flosser or are you not a flosser? I'm a flosser but with the pick floss. I use the pick flosses too. I think it's absolutely so disgusting people who do not floss their teeth. I actually read this study one time that was talking about how it's much more important to floss your teeth than it is to brush them. So listen, my hygienist said it too.

So just take it for, if you don't fucking floss your teeth, go buy some pick flosses and start flossing. Um, okay. They're rude to a waiter or bartender. No, hate it, ick, ick. Here's my thing on it. Why are we being rude? And if you're being rude to,

let's say like I was out on a first date and this person was rude to the bartender or the waiter that's serving us. I'm immediately not going to communicate with you ever again, because if you're that rude to somebody who is helping you and serving you, what are you going to do to me later on? Like you're putting on your best display here. And if that's the best, it ain't working for me, ick. But also, what if you have a child and their first job is in the service industry?

Are you gonna treat your child like that? Or would you have wanted your child to be treated that way? Oh, I know, no, I cannot stand. So are you the type of person that if your order comes wrong, you're immediately gonna send it back? Or are you just gonna say, what the hell, eat it? There was one time that I sent it back. And that was when I visited, when I was married

before I got married to that person. I went to visit him at work and I was like, this is absolutely foul. And so I did send that back. But also I just want to like preface that, conclude that with me being like 18 or 19, like didn't know any better today, I'm, I'll just eat it. I'm always just going to eat it. The only thing that I might ever send back was if it was like chicken and it was maybe raw or something, I might send something like that back because I'm possibly going to get a foodborne illness. So like I'm not trying to do that. Typically I always just eat whatever it is, could be the wrong fucking order. Don't care because my parents used to say just when you send stuff back, you don't know what's actually happening to your stuff.

And not saying that people in the service industry are out here doing that, but it kind of stuck with me and I will just never send it back. I used to date this person, but had such a specific order on absolutely everything. Like it did not matter what dish was being ordered or what restaurant we were at. It always was so specific. And if it did not come in the way that it was ordered,

it would always be sent back. And I hated it so come in the way that it was ordered, it would always be sent back and I hated it so much to the point that I was just like, I'm never going to a restaurant with you again. No, it's embarrassing. After that time I did it when I was younger, no. Okay, next one. They have bad breath. Like chronic bad breath? Are we talking like, what do they call it? Like something vitus?

Like what's it called? Halitosis. Yeah, but isn't there another one that's like halitosis is like chronic bad breath, right? Yeah. Gingivitis, that's the one. Kristen's typing gingivitis. What, no.

Gingivitis is like gum disease. Yeah, but isn't that for people who like don't floss their teeth, I'm pretty sure it makes you have bad breath. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, and that's absolutely just gross. Okay, okay. Let's say somebody like you're going on a date

and somebody eats something that's just like stinky. Like, I don't know, like broccoli or something that has- Brussels sprouts. Yeah, like something that's just like smelly and then they give you a kiss. Like I'm not judging you off of what you just ate because your breath does not smell great. Yeah, no, I'm not, that's not like it all the way ick,

it's like a half ick, cause it's like, oh, like that sucks, but like, I'm not like, you're not changing my whole like outlook on you it's like a half it for me but if you have how is it how do you say it how look how lit ocious how it's oh sis how it says if you have that then I can't talk to you because I'm gonna throw up. Okay, they talk about their ex. I'm assuming that this ick is like, they talk about their ex all the time. So I would say ick only because of what I know now.

Like if this would have, if you would have asked me this like six years ago, I wouldn't have realized what that meant. But if they are always talking about it in a relationship, and I'm not talking about it on like a platform like this, because I do feel like that could be a little bit different. But if we're talking like, personal relationship with this person, and they're always referring to their ex, because you are not over your ex.

I feel like if you're in a conversation with somebody and because their life experience might involve that person, that's not going to give me an ick, but basically I have the ick. Like I don't want to hear about your ex because I just don't give a fuck. Right. Like they're an ex for a reason, so let's leave them there. They speak with their mouth full. Ick. It drives me nuts. And in fact, Will used to do this all the time

whenever we first started dating. And I mean, he was just like rogue, like a baseball player. I don't know. Just like no manners whatsoever. And I'm like, bro, if I can see it and I feel like it's going to hit me, then do not talk to me while you're eating. People say that your kids eating habits

and their smacking and you like seeing them talk with their mouth open doesn't bother you as much as it would with a partner. And I can say that that is true. Oh, 100%. Coffee Convo's podcast is sponsored by Better Health. We absolutely love talking about therapy and our journeys. And truly therapy has been the best for me,

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but because of them. And that is, it sounds so cliche, but that has been a reoccurring theme over variations of you know the things that I've gone through so that's really important and um I was you know I went to therapy on and off my whole life and never really connected to it the same way that I have as an adult and I really feel strongly about it so if you guys are thinking about giving therapy a try I definitely recommend BetterHelp. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to fit your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed

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to know that you're chewing gum. So like, why am I aware? I also like I don't know of people that like chew gum around me. Like I'm not around a lot of gum chewers. Oh, I'm a huge gum chewer. Like I all I typically always have gum all the time. But it's, I used to have to hide it in high school because we weren't allowed to have it. So I feel like it taught me not to be a loud gum cheer. But what's that disorder that people have? Where it's like a legitimate disorder. No, I'm not even kidding. I was at lunch with one of my girlfriends the other day and she was on her phone doing something. And she had gum in

her mouth and she was like popping it and it was so loud. And I said, Can you not? Can you fucking not? And what did she say? What was her reaction? She said, yeah, I can't, that's really annoying. I have no idea what disorder that is. It is really, it really is a disorder. Okay, this one really, really,

I'm gonna go ahead and say before I say what it is, huge ick for me. They check their phone on a date. Kristin said it's ADHD. ADHD and OCD. I would say checking their phone on a date wouldn't necessarily bother me. On their phone, like the whole date, that would bother me on their phone like the whole date that would bother me but if you're like check the time check to see if you have any time only because

like at this big age people have kids also unfortunately for people like you and myself and I mean Kristen not really but like sort of, Kristen. You don't just don't know if there's an emergency in terms of our jobs, so I feel like we kind of have to check our phones, so not super ick for me. I guess where it becomes an ick is if someone's being responsive to something on their phone that isn't an emergency. Right, right, right, right, right, right, yeah, totally. Like if you're just like nonchalantly

texting your homeboy or like you're nonchalantly texting your mom, it's like, fuck you. Now I know where I stand. Like now I see where, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. And it's like nothing pertaining to anything that's important in that moment. Like if you were on a date, what you're doing in that moment should be important unless it is an emergency. That drives me fucking nuts. Like I'm not going out to like a nice restaurant spending tons of money on eating at a steakhouse and you're sitting on your phone. Correct. Like go to the fucking bar then.

Correct. Correct. Sit by yourself. Thank you, sir. And have a good day. Okay. They get drunk on a date. Ick. That doesn't really bother me that much. I mean, what if it was like, let's just say you're going on a day date and then your day

date turns into like you meeting up with friends, because this has happened to me before, you meet up with friends, and then that day date turns into an entire night outing, I'm expecting whoever I'm with to not be well. If we're just going to dinner, like if we're just going to dinner and you're drunk, then I'm probably pissed. Yeah. But if it turns into like a day date into an outing into, okay, like picturing a summer day, a long weekend, okay, fine. But if we're going to a lunch or a dinner and you get fucked up, I'm grossed out.

Like I'm icked. Okay. And let's say you're on this date and this person gets shit-faced and you're supposed to like sleep over together, then you have to worry about Whiskey Dick and that's like a whole nother issue. Agreed. Agreed.

You know? Okay, last one and then we're moving on. They turn up late to your date. How late are we talking? I'm like, I think everybody should have like a 15 minute grace period because what if someone gets in traffic or you got there like a little early in your waiting?

That's one thing, but I think after 15 minutes then there either should have been communication of why you're not there on time or you're just there in 15 minutes, then there either should have been communication of why you're not there on time or you're just there in 15 minutes. I agree. I'm pretty sure even like my custody agreements say 10 to 15 minute grace period for like things like traffic and stuff like that.

Cause even when you plan ahead, because I do, I used to be chronically late to everything. And for some reason, some of my children's fathers still think that I'm that way Which is so funny because now I show up entirely too early, but Even that even when you plan to be somewhere early by five or ten minutes sometimes even doing that there's traffic that you can't control So I would say I mean 15 minutes No more than 15 minutes if you're gonna would say, I mean, 15 minutes, no more than 15 minutes.

If you're gonna be more late than 10 or 15 minutes, I better have a communication about it. Like know if fans are butted about it. Yeah, like if you're an adult and you're supposed to be somewhere and you know you're supposed to be there at said time and you agreed to said time and you're after 15 minutes, then you need to give somebody a heads up.

Like whether that be your ex, that you're after fifteen minutes then you need to give somebody a heads up like whether that be your ex that you're meeting like who whoever like a custody situation like whatever just you know have some fucking decency i said that was the last one but i have to do this one with you what going back really quickly on the late thing at the point that you know you are going to be late should be the communication. It's not waiting until you're already late. It's not waiting until the time if you're meeting at 12 p.m. or 7 p.m. you don't wait until 1201 or 701 to say hey I'm running late.

It's like no at 1150 or at 650, you're like, Hey, I'm gonna be late by 10 minutes, or I'm gonna be late by 15 minutes. And be fucking realistic. Don't be like, Oh, I'm gonna be five minutes late, I'm gonna be 10 minutes late, and then you're 2030 minutes late, because now you've wasted my time. And I used to be like that, because I didn't want to hurt someone's feelings. And I would be like 30 minutes late. That's not okay. And I don't like it done to me,

so I don't do it to other people anymore. It's so annoying, but there are so many people that will lie about saying, okay, I'm leaving, like send a text, like I'm leaving my house. And it's like, no, the fuck you weren't, because I know where you live. So you in fact, were not fucking leaving your house. Yeah.

So why are we out here lying as grown adults? Okay, I have one more. I said I didn't, but like, I just need to know specifically for you about this, bad tattoos. Oh God, I have so many bad tattoos. I can't really judge because I've had some pretty bad ones done, so it's not an ick for me. But if you know what is an ick for me is when

someone swears because I feel like I am the perfect judge for a good tattoo or a bad tattoo because I have both I have very good tattoos and I have very poor tattoos so to me when someone's like oh my god this artist is so good and their work is so good and I see it and it's like subpar and mediocre at fucking best why are you telling me that this person is really good because they're not? That's an it. Like don't act like they're so good when their their shit is like not that great. You know? Their shit is uh. No, I don't know. This is you know what? If you have a bad tattoo, I'm honestly gonna be like, I'm gonna start asking questions.

I'm gonna be like, at what point of your life did this tattoo transpire? Because was this like on spring break and you were wasted and then you just like got this? Or was this truly like a conscious decision that you thought it looked good? My first tattoo is like that. Wait, what was your first tattoo?

My first tattoo is a quote on my back that says, to the world you are one person, but to one person you are the world and it has initials I-E-R. Great idea, horrible execution. The tattoo itself is so fucking bad. I don't know if I just went to the nearest tattoo shop. I don't know. There are tattoo artists who specialize in writing, in script, in freehand fonts, in

lettering. I don't know if this person even should have been tattooing at all. Wait a minute. So do you still have this tattoo or did you do a cover up? Well I started the cover up and paid in cash $3,500 and that tattoo artist passed away. So I never finished the cover up and now if I wanted to do something I would need to cover up that cover-up So the touch the original tattoo is still showing because we didn't we hadn't gotten to that part yet So only like the outside is done and now I would need to go back over I would need to cover that up and the original tattoo. So

Wow, that's that's better off Just lasering the whole thing off and not even covering it. Yeah. And like they're so old that I think it would actually be better that way because I mean the ink, the older the tattoo is, the easier it is to get removed because the ink breaks up more. Um, so maybe that's what I'll do one of these days. I'll start the removal process on my back. I'm going to make sure that I post this list of X in case you guys wanna do them with your personal friends. The article was from Yahoo Life

and I think it has like 50 or more on there and we don't have time to go through all of them. But I just need to know while we're on the tattoo topic, would you ever get someone's name tattooed on you outside of your children? Wait, did you? I would. Did you?

No, I never have. I never have gotten someone's name. Never thought I would and I've always been like, no, absolutely not. But I would, I feel like I would and I've always been like, no, absolutely not, but I would, I feel like I would. I'm gonna go with, I feel like I wouldn't because I've been in very solid situations before where I'm like, this is never gonna end.

And then I'm just like walking around with that person's name tattooed on me and I'm gonna be like, now the person that I'm with now really hates it, and every time they see me with no clothes on, they're gonna be like, why do I have to think of them? Yeah, I get that, I do get that. You know? Yeah.

Like, you better be, if you are getting somebody's name tattooed on you, you better be so fucking solid that like, that person is loyal to the soil to you, and the only thing that's going to part you is death. Yeah. Right? Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree. DraftKings Casino is bringing you only the best classics like blackjack roulette and slots plus exclusive games you won't find anywhere else.

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Yes. Do you remember that? Yes. Okay. So I was sitting at this like local watering hole, which is like a local little pub. And everybody in the community, like when you go to a place like that,

everybody in the community talks about absolutely everything that they know about everybody. So when someone finds out where I live, they're like, oh, you need to be careful of such and such. Well, I'm like, yeah, I've already been like pre-warned about this. There was like a firearm issue in my neighborhood, thought the place was gonna get shot up,

like really didn't know what was going on, lots of law enforcement, whatever. What do you know about this person? This person proceeds to tell me that this man got a $10,000 fine from my HOA for having his dick sucked in our community pool. Is this confirmed? Well, I can just tell you the person that told me this like knows everything and is

not a liar. So I feel like it's definitely true and also knows this person personally. But wait, so the HOA fined them but did they get charged with public indecency as well? No, so evidently because the pool and like all the communal space have cameras like everywhere. So this guy must have been out of his fucking mind when he went up to the pool and decided it was a good idea to get a

blowy. They caught him on the camera and the pool was closed for a little while over the summer, which now I've started backtracking dates. I'm wondering if they closed the pool because that happened and then it had to be sanitized or whatever. I'm not really- I mean, I really hope so. I'm not really 100% sure, but just wanted to ask, have you ever given somebody a blowjob in a pool and how hard of a job would that be? No, I've never given a blowjob in a pool or around a pool. Think that would be pretty disgusting,

especially in a public pool. So no, I've never done that, but also I can't imagine that that would even be worth it. I can promise you, I don't even have a wiener, but if I did, it would not be worth the $10,000 fine and the community shutdown of a pool for that to transpire there.

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Yeah, like Drake and Josh, right? Yeah. Yeah. I plan on watching it. Unfortunately, I feel like I've seen a lot of these allegations coming from child stars over the past couple of years. And I think it's really brave that he's telling his story. I just was wondering too, though, I know he was having some issues like kind of recently over the years, just

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So I think that this is super important and I really hope that it's passed because it would protect kids from basically being targeted from ads that they should not be subjected to. And I know the types of ads, I was just talking to a teacher about this last night, the types of ads that I'm subjected to and targeted for, probably because my age, my gender, you know, where I live, different types of targeting that I don't want to see. And so I just imagine these young children that are, you know, signing up for these types of social media accounts, that they are exposed to so both parties and majority of senators from both parties.

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I mean, my first grader has a Chromebook, which I didn't love. Which is wild. Yeah. And I get it. I understand why, because they're going to have to use them moving forward in school, but I do feel like it's really young. But I get it. So just knowing that first graders are getting computers and that you can use Instagram on a computer and you can use some of these apps on the computer. I think it's really important.

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features and opt out of personalized algorithms that would be making recommendations to them. Yeah, I do love that because I mean, there are even like kids things that are geared towards kids that I don't really like my kids on. You know, like Creed very seldomly goes on my phone. The one day he did when we were at basketball practice, and even though it was for kids and targeted for kids, I really didn't love it. I was like, no, we're not watching that. I don't like that.

I really like the idea of having that defaulted and then also on top of it, the options of further protecting the whatever you're seeing online. So it also went on to say that it would require independent audits and research on how social media impacts the mental health of well-being of tweens and teens. And by doing that, it ensures that social media companies and other online platforms are taking these critical steps to address the risk and concerns. And I just love the fact that because of this, if passed, we would have access to so much

more information on the research and numbers behind how this truly is impacting. You're going to have a tangible thing that you can put your hands on. Yeah. I love that. So I'm glad that we're making, I'm glad that people are seeing this as an issue because I think a lot of times we get lost in instant gratification. We've talked about this a hundred times, instant gratification, being targeted, everything is direct to consumer, immediate, all of that. And it starts with kids now because they're on social media longer, they're on the computers longer, they're using technology.

And so they're seeing it from a really young age where we didn't have that same experience. We kind of got it as teens into adulthood. They're getting it from first grade and younger. So I do think that's really important that people are taking a stand against it, essentially. I 100% agree. Actually over the weekend, we were like, Jackson and I were laying in the bed, like scrolling through YouTube and vibrator ad popped up. And I was like, what am I supposed to say about this?

And he like, he scrolled past it really fast and didn't ask any questions. So I didn't go into conversation. I was like, okay, he scrolled past it. Probably knows it's not something that he should be watching. It's like adult content, but it's just the fact that our kids are exposed to so much now that we have to be aware

of the type of exposure and the things that they're being exposed to. I don't want my child to learn about this stuff online. Yeah, I don't either. I really don't. I'm good on that. We at our house absolutely love Farmer's Dog. I have actually convinced Will to switch Della over to Farmers Dog. And so now Della, Georgia, and Bertie are all switched

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And I know that that whole, I don't wanna say like, the whole idea and traditional wife thing is trending sort of right now. Maybe the topic of conversation is trending, but a single mother on, this is a CNN article – a single mother speaks out about how her trad wife lifestyle led her to divorce. She basically says that social media is glamorizing these 30-second videos who are stay-at-home wives who love the sour bread situation and their stay at home. They do the traditional gender roles in their marriage and they're devoted to their housework

and taking care of kids and being subservient to their husband. She basically goes on to say that she's now getting divorced. She grew up believing that the husband has authority over his wife, but that she was miserable from this. So she ended up getting, she's going through a divorce, she went through a divorce. And she doesn't like essentially that social media is making everything look really pretty because it's a 30 second clip of these traditional lifestyle roles, I guess, lifestyle, traditional gender roles, and that there's a lot of ugliness in those relationships and that she didn't like it and so she's getting divorced.

In this article, it says trade wife influencer. So is that what they're dubbing these influencers as? It says- Trad wife, traditional. Oh, trad wife. I was like, trade wife. So is that what they're dubbing these influencers as? It says- Tradwife. Traditional. Oh, tradwife. I was like, tradewife. Okay.

So, you know the TikToks that you and I share of that one mom that makes all the sourdough bread and makes everything from scratch? Nara Smith. That's Nara Smith. That's Lucky Blue Smith's wife. Okay. So I was just recently watching a video of her, I think I actually sent it to you,

and she was making individual homemade goldfish. I saw the cheese it one. To send, these were goldfish, sending them for her kid's snack. I'm not out here to talk about anybody bad. I'm just saying, I'm not making individual, like we're talking like, that would take a lot of goldfish, a lot. I don't have time to do that in my life.

I don't really understand the sourdough bread. Right. Yeah, that is going on actually Tex Kale because I feel like she's changed so much over the years. And I was like, wow, I could either see her really like doing the sourdough thing or really hating the idea of doing it. I don't think I'm ever going to make any sourdough bread. I think I'm good on that, but I very much understand why someone would go through a divorce because of this. I will say in this article, we'll post it, but also she does acknowledge that there are traditional wives that are very happy. She says that there are traditional wives that are very happy.

She says that there are some. Yes, of course. There's always, this isn't a huge generalization through and through. It's just acknowledging that they're not all traditional husband and wife dynamics are happy and there are some that aren't. So let's start there. I have absolutely no desire to ever be a traditional wife. I never had a desire to be a traditional wife, even when I was a stay at home wife and I was married

and making money from the show and he was going to work and paying the mortgage. It still wasn't traditional and I never had the desire to have that. That being said, I don't judge anyone who does choose that and does have that sort of dynamic. But specifically Nara Smith, who I do follow on TikTok, the amount of money that I'm sure that they have is probably money that I'll never see or touch in my lifetime. So let's start there. Number two, money that I'll never see or touch in my lifetime. So let's start there. Number two, surely they have nannies because she wanted to make marshmallows

from scratch with her toddlers and how everything is crisp and clean and perfect and all of the things and actually the work that goes into making the TikTok itself. Who was watching your kids? Unless the dad was, then I take back what I said. If the dad was watching the children and taking care of the children and you know, whatever,

and you were able to do this like aesthetic, let's also consider that because I mean, full face of makeup, pristine outfit, absolutely exquisite and immaculate house, clean to every last crevice, having toddlers and making things from scratch. She even says certain things take hours. Let's also start there for the people that don't have nannies and are in these traditional lifestyles. I could see where I would be miserable

because all of that falls on you. There was a conversation on baby mamas where the wife and the husband were having a situation where the husband was like, well, I work, I pay the bills. You are required to do everything in the house and I don't have to. Okay, so there's so many topics that I wanna touch on here. Number one, we kind of briefly talked about like the de-influencing thing. There is no possible way that it does not take

a significant amount of time to look like this creator. Not only like are the recipes lengthy, like not only is that like number one, but number two, you are all the way put together. I can promise you when I'm cooking in my house, the small amount of time that I am doing it, I do not look like that. But also that being said, if you have a nanny

or your husband is watching these children, I will still be invested. If you say, nanny, babysitter, husband has the kids, I'm gonna do this for my children or I'm, I'm gonna do this for my children, or I'm gonna get ready and do this for my children, I'm still invested. You're still making shit from scratch. So when it comes to transparency and de-influencing,

you're still gonna get millions of views. Correct. I hate that that bridge has not been gapped for a lot of people out there on the internet. It's like, we know you have kids, that bridge has not been gapped for a lot of people out there on the internet. We know you have kids, we know you are doing all of this stuff, your house is absolutely immaculate. Do you have an assistant cook that's in there cooking with you to clean up the stuff because there's never a mess? That would take a significant amount of time that I just truly, even if I had it,

I wouldn't do it. To the traditional wife role though, there was a time in my life where I wanted to just be a traditional wife. When I graduated college specifically and was so in love with Will, I just wanted to be at home and do laundry and cook dinners and make his lunch and raise my kids. Like that was a desire of mine. That was back in like my Pinterest mom days, like even before my Pinterest mom days. And I loved doing that stuff,

but I think it's very hard when you're a single parent that like changes the game altogether to still do all of that stuff, but also have a job and have other responsibilities that are in your life. You can only stretch yourself so thin. And so I do believe in separating tasks and things. You and I've had this conversation like Will was way better at laundry than me. He was just more efficient. So just because I'm the woman of the house and I'm now also working, if

you're better at that, then you do that and I'll pick up something that I'm better at. Um, I don't think that responsibility just because somebody's making all of the money in the house doesn't mean that everything else should fall on another person. I would agree. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I will say as far as like trad wife, trad mom goes, I lately have really missed being the only and the full-time caretaker for my kids. I will say that I have missed that and there are days that I do want to go volunteer at the school and I can't, especially knowing that my kids schools are short of

like subs and stuff. And I do qualify as someone who can sub I do miss things like that. But I wouldn't want to do it full time like there. I wish that I could do it, you know, once a week or something like that. But yeah, to your point, I think we all go through phases to where like, right now I wish that I wasn't doing anything else other than being a mom, but that's just not possible right now. So, but yeah, I mean, what works for some doesn't work for everyone.

But yeah, I could see why, I can see where traditional wives are getting to the point where they want to leave their husbands. Because some, some traditional husbands have these mentalities that are just not bearable and I don't blame the women for leaving. I don't either, but if I had like life to do over again and I could, I never like to say that I live with regret because I really don't.

I think everything happens for a reason and you get brought to where you are for whatever reason that may be, good and great. But if in a perfect world I could go back, I think that I would have been very, very happy had I never done the show, just living that life because I don't think that I would have ever known anything different and that would have just been it

and I would have been satisfied because at that point in my life I was. Yeah, yeah, understood. I saw this article about virtual learning on snow days and how it's bad for mental health. I wanna know your thoughts on virtual learning. I think it depends. I think it depends.

I think that we grew up with snow days and we're doing okay with not having done virtual learning on those days. So for me, unless it's a week full of snow days, I can't say that I'm in favor of virtual learning on snow days. It's just let kids be kids. Let them look forward to their virtual learning on snow days. It's just let kids be kids, let them look forward to their virtual learning. I will say that I can also acknowledge at the same time that our kids learning today is not the same

as when we were learning because of all the distractions with social media, because of distractions at school, because of all of the more known behavioral disorders, mental health disorders and all of those things. It's very like we have to cater to a lot more things because we know about them. And so, but I will say you still have to let kids be kids and let them have it's snow day off. It's interesting because you guys probably had a lot more snow days than us growing up in the south

and we used to watch like at the bottom of the tv screen on the morning news it would pop up like the counties that had the school cancellations and be so excited and it truly was just a day off like we did not have anything at home that we would need to be able to do like this virtual day. It was just off. You played and enjoyed your day. This article says most of us can probably remember the glorious feeling of finding out we had a snow day as children, pajamas all morning, sledding in the afternoon, hot cocoa and movies galore, but a lot of kids today, snow days aren't fun and games. It involves logging into Zoom for school. So after the onset of COVID-19 in 2020, a reported seven in 10 schools had pivoted to some sort of distance or virtual learning. And I believe because of that,

I've noticed that my county does a lot more virtual days where it used to be like a, you know, like teacher workday or something like that. Now they still have requirements that they have to be able to like log on. Sometimes it'll be like just a morning meeting and then it's guided learning like through various different apps, whatever. I hate the idea of that. I absolutely hate it. I was not meant to be a teacher. I'm not really good at that and don't wanna do it at home.

I understand that also the counties and stuff are definitely pressed because, or the teachers are pressed because of the counties. But still, like kids just need time to be kids. It says a snow day is a gift for time to slow down and a break from schedules from a work day. It's a gift to all of us, parents, kids and teachers. I'm with you on it. End of discussion.

End of discussion. Like there's nothing more than I can say. So if there's any county superintendent that's listening to this, like take notice. I mean, not that anything we say really matters mean, not that we anything we say really matters. But not that anything we say really, I mean, sometimes it does, I feel.

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God's honest, what is it saying? The God's honest truth. I couldn't get past episode one. I couldn't even get through episode one. So it was everything I never thought it was. I thought it was going to be something way different than a bunch of hocus pocus and playing with a Ouija board. At the point that it brought up witchcraft and the Ouija board, I immediately lost interest and I felt like it was all made up. It was like a big fucking ghost story and I didn't give a shit. So I couldn't even get through episode one. I got through episode two and then Kail and I started texting. I text her one weekend

morning and I said, I'm about to watch Suburban Screams. And she was like, oh, you'll have to tell me how it is. And I'm thinking, I haven't looked at like any of the information about their show other than the fact that like, I'm gonna watch it. And I'm thinking, okay, this is gonna be like a thriller. Like it's gonna be exciting and it's gonna be everything that I ever imagined it more.

I absolutely hated it. I thought it sucked. It sucked so bad. The Ouija board thing really freaks me out because I grew up in a religious household. That wasn't something that we were allowed to play with, but I heard of other people playing with them. I know my mom told me a story about playing with one with her brother whenever they were growing up and my grandmother found it and like lost her shit, took it outside, wouldn't allow them in the house. I know that one of my brothers played with a Ouija board

when he was in high school, like behind my parents backs. Yeah, I don't know. Do we believe in Ouija boards? Do we think they're real? I can't say whether I think they're real or not. I've never had an experience with them. I also have never, I might've played with one once when I was like 13, but also I don't think I played with it.

I think I watched someone play. It was in my presence, but I don't think I actively participated. I can't speak to other people's experiences. I've never experienced anything with that, so I don't know. But it's also not something that I would want to experience. And it's also not something I would want my kids to even like try to experience.

Oh no, I wouldn't allow that in my house. And I would definitely encourage if Jackson ever said, hey, I wanna like do this with my friends because they're doing it, like, please do not be involved in that. Did anybody else who watched this feel like everybody that was involved in this was like on something or just liars?

That's, I just, I felt like the whole thing was fake and stupid. Like it just felt so like, this is not, it would have been more interesting if it was like just, I really thought it was gonna be a show about, you know, murders in suburbia, like suburban America. Yeah. I, and I thought it was gonna be like

the girl next door situation of, you know, an all American family in fucking the middle of the suburbs who gets murdered and you know, the town comes together and it was a really crazy story and you never think it happens in your small town. I just thought that that's the angle that we were going with. I didn't know that it was hookus-pocus. I'm not interested in that. Same thing with the books I read and the movies I watch.

I don't care to watch the exorcisms and the demons and I'm just personally not into that type of vibe. I don't care about that either. Yeah, I wasn't into it. I made it to episode two and I realized how much time I was actually wasting of my life watching something that I absolutely hated to the point that I text Kale and I was like these people like it's just like a bunch of fucking liars. Yeah, maybe they were tripping on acid. I don't know. Maybe so. Okay. Listen, I saw this come across the Facebook group this morning and I want to know

your thoughts and I have thought about this for a really long time. Thoughts on certified diamond ring versus lab created. This person says that they want to upgrade from one carat to two carat, but they don't have $45,000 to draw for a certified diamond ring and a lab grown two carat is $2,500. I personally don't. If I see a ring, specifically an engagement ring on someone's finger, I'm like, Oh, wow, that is so pretty. I don't immediately think is that diamond real because I just assume whether it's a lab grown or like a diamond from outside, it's still a diamond. So I don't care. Like I just if it's pretty, it's pretty.

So had the conversation like a while ago with somebody about, you know, at the point of an engagement, what I want like a real diamond or a lab grown diamond. And I don't really support the diamond industry. So I would go lab grown all day. And I'm, I'm big at this point in my life on just being cautious when spending. And why do I care? Like if it's something that I love, why do I care? You shouldn't. We like what we like. I have, like. Kristen has Morganite. She swears by it. I've never had it. But if Elijah proposed to me with a Morganite ring, I'd be just as happy as

if he did with a fucking diamond. I don't give a shit. I also know someone who loves sapphire and really, really wants a sapphire engagement ring. I just love it. If you like it, you like it it and that's it. Who cares what everyone else wants to do. I don't think it's a one size fits all answer though. I think it's just like personal preference. Like if you, if you have been waiting for your whole life for like that real diamond, like go for it sister.

This would be my second marriage. So I really just don't give a shit and also don't care for somebody to spend $45,000 on a two-carat diamond ring that I potentially might lose anyway. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would 100% agree with that. Okay, and on that note, we have foul play.

I have a nine-year-old daughter and I just had twins five months ago. The twins' cribs are still in our bedroom and they still wake throughout the night. My daughter had a chorus concert at school, so my mom was coming over to watch the twins so my husband and my mother-in-law could go support my daughter. Trying to get out the door is always complete chaos no matter how much I plan ahead. While my mom and my mother-in-law are playing with the twins in the kitchen, I finish getting my daughter ready. My husband is upstairs getting dressed and after I get my daughter ready, I scramble upstairs to get dressed where I find the husband just

standing there in his undies and I'm totally annoyed. At this point, I'm darting around trying to get clothes together while ripping mine off so we can get out of the door ASAP. Husband thinks this is the perfect time to come up behind me for a little hump. I know, do all men do this or just mine is broken? Well, they all do it, unfortunately. He says, I'm going to bend you over this bed and impregnate you with baby number four.

I don't care who's in this house, among other dirty talk. I brush him off telling him we have to go, we can't be late and make sure we're on our way downstairs. I walk into the kitchen and see my mother-in-law and mother looking back and forth at each other awkwardly. I ask what's wrong and they say nothing and we keep it moving and get into the car to leave. When we get into the car, my mother-in-law breaks out into hysterical laughter and says,

did you guys know you left the baby monitor on in your room? We heard everything. Apparently, I forgot to shut the baby monitor on in your room? We heard everything. Apparently, I forgot to shut the baby monitor off after the baby's last nap of the day, and my husband's antics were heard by everyone in the house. I was mortified. Pass forward a month, I just found out I'm pregnant with baby number four.

I'm dreading the announcement to my mom and mother-in-law because I just know there's gonna be jokes made about that night. First of all, nothing annoys me more than a man, your partner, whoever, whether you're gay or straight, I don't care, whoever your partner is, and you're actively trying to get out of the fucking house and they wanna just dig around,

whether it's sex or it's food, or they think that now is a good time to do something, and it's like, we have somewhere to be. We have something to do. Do not try to poke my ass. Do not try to like have a quickie. Like now is not the time. Keep your fingers in your hands to yourself at all times

at the point that we were trying to get out of the house. You have no idea how many arguments that I've been in over the years about somebody just slow walking. Like my parents used to tell us when we were growing up, don't fucking slow walk. Like when we've got somewhere we've got to be, you need to be on your P's and Q's and you need to get the fuck out the door. Yes. So I have maintained that theory for my entire life and I cannot stand for somebody to just

be dicking around for what? Yes. Oh my God, it's so annoying. But also, I cannot imagine if my mother-in-law heard me having sex on a baby monitor. Like, I would be, I wouldn't even know what I would do, actually. I wonder how often that actually happens that people get caught doing stuff or having conversations like on the baby monitor?

God, I cannot imagine. I would be mortified. Like I'm not talking about just like sex stuff, but like let's say you're in the room putting one of your kids to bed and maybe you're like doing something on your phone or you might be carrying on a conversation with somebody or you might be picking your nose or you might fart. I wonder how many times people get caught from just being in their baby's room on the fucking monitor. I never had a baby monitor. Do you know that? Really? Never.

I think I know I had one for Isaac, but I think the rest of them I didn't have baby monitor. Wait, Isaac had one but the rest of the kids didn't? So the twins don't either? So how do you know? Well, Lincoln- I feel like everybody has them now. Lincoln slept with me for two years. Lux slept on and off with me for like three years.

Creed slept with me for three years almost. Rio slept in our room for a year and the twins are in our room and they're four months. Yeah, wow. I have a girlfriend, actually several girlfriends that have little kids, that I feel like they take those baby monitors absolutely everywhere. Like I don't know if they could live without it and they're watching their kids like on their phone sleeping at all times. I have, there's a camera in Rio's room and it'll like alert us. But, um, like if he's

like moving around, so, but we don't have, like, we don't hear, like we wouldn't hear him crying. It'll just alert us on the phone, you know, there's movement. There's like a disturbance. Yeah. Oh, okay. Second foul play. I was like 16 years old and had just started seeing this guy. It had been maybe a month, so I didn't really know his family too well.

They were having a 4th of July party and we were in his bedroom downstairs when his little sister, who was like nine at the time, came downstairs and busted open the door. We weren't necessarily doing anything at the moment, but I was only in my underwear under the covers and my leggings were on the bedside. She proceeded to try to rip off the covers of us

and which did not happen, but then she noticed my leggings. She picked them up and started running around with my leggings, showing everyone at the party that she had them. She even went outside with them and ran in circles around the yard. In conclusion, he was pissed, I was mortified, and she was a brat." Younger siblings, man. Nothing like this ever happened in my house growing up because we weren't allowed to have anybody in our bedroom. So I can't relate to that but I can honestly see this happening often with 9 year olds.

I would be mortified if one of my kids did that or to me or to anyone else. I need to ask you though, do you wear underwear with leggings? Sometimes. Like I, if I have my period, yes, because I need an extra layer of something if I bleed through, but most of the time, no. I regularly don't wear underwear with anything like including like blue jean shorts, like nothing. That's crazy because your lips are going to get caught in them jeans. No, we're not going to talk about what kind of lips, like lips could be various different types of lips, right? And so, you know,

Yeah, but I just mean like that. I'm not even talking about the inside ones. I just mean like your regular, like outer lips. Like I'm not even talking about the ones that are variations of. I know one time this guy who wore jeans without putting underwear on and zipped his dick in the zipper.

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