Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - If There Is No Purpose, There Is No Place

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

CC456: Welcome to 2026! Kail and Lindsie dive into their intentions for the new year, with words like "Execution" and "Balance, Growth, and Peace". They share personal updates, including a surprise trip to Mexico and Lindsie's on-and-off relationship with David. Kail explains how she doesn't feel the new year pressure for change, and Lindsie talks about the most underrated thing in a house (water pressure), and big 2026 goals like establishing a bedtime routine and breaking ground on a new home.Thank you to our sponsors!Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn more!Quince: Go to Quince.com/coffee to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next orderSKIMS: Check out our favorite pajamas at https://www.skims.com/Stride K-12: Go to K12.com/COFFEECONVOS today to learn more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. Good morning, Kitty Kat. Good morning, Kitty Cat. I am going through it today. Controversial kale is back in 26, within reason, of course. So I hope everybody buckles up and gets a safe vehicle for

266 because I'm crashing the fuck out every day, all 365 days. Controversial kale never left like the group chat, never left the private text, just publicly you did a little switch up and I feel it coming. With that being said, happy fucking new year. And my word of the year is execution in all of my business goals. Wow. What a fantastic way to start. I have multiple words of the year.

My first one is balance. Oh, that's a good one. Mm-hmm. That's a good one. Growth. Mm-hmm. And peace. Ooh, peace is a good one.

not coming with peace in 2026. So if you're looking for peaceful advice, don't find me. I just will not send you the text messages. You know what I loved, though? Last night, the group text that I was put in with you and the conversation made my whole night. Like, I went to bed giggling last night and I really appreciate that. So thank you. That's me and David on 10 at all times. No, luck said his name was Gavin. Gavin. I know. But like, where did Gavin come from? I don't. I don't know. But he was like, who's David? And then he goes, I thought his name was Gavin. And I'm like, what the fuck do you even know about any of the people that I'm texting? And then you said something about sending them. I said,

I'm going to send Lux and Creed to you. And then what did Lux say to me? You said something about send them. You'll buy the flights or whatever. Yeah. And Lux still to this day will ask me, when am I going to Lindsay's house? And I'm like, Lindsay can't handle you. Okay, I can't even handle you. I feel like I could, though. I think you're very much underestimating me when it comes to that child because it's like a mini me. Lux is a very unique child and he truly brings so much joy to my life. But big news is that when this episode will have aired, Creed will have lost his first tooth. Wait, how old is he? Five. Yeah. And the tooth is just hanging on by a thread right now. And so when this episode

airs, I just know that tooth will be coming out. Wait. So do you pull your kids' teeth or you let him fall out? Lincoln has never let me pull them. I don't think Elliot's ever let me pull him. Lux has let me pull almost every single one of his teeth out. I think his dad pulled one or two and then I pull have pulled the rest. Creed asks me to pull his tooth every day. And I'm like, here's the thing. If I pull it right now and it hurts, you're never going to trust me again. So I would rather let it hang in there for a minute, get a little loose or either fall out on its own or I can pull it out when it's super, super, super, super loose. But I never want him to not trust me, you know? I will tell you that I was so scared that Jackson was going to lose his first

tooth at school and I was going to be devastated. And I know it sounds so insane like it's just a tooth, but devastated. And I have to tell you that I still have all of his teeth in my kitchen spice cabinet. Do you think you could have David Gavin maybe poke a hole in all of them and just make a tooth necklace? You went from making all of his toys into ornaments to now I'm going to be wearing around a tooth necklace. No. I just feel like we need to create purpose. You know what I mean? like everything needs a purpose and if it doesn't have a purpose it doesn't have a place and so we could make use of said items wait that's such a good thought for the new year everything that doesn't have a purpose doesn't have a place not including people yeah you read my mind you read my mind

that is so wait can we just talk about last night how our group chat started because i was sitting eating and i said you were up in atoms this morning. And he was like, can you spell that for me? And I said, yeah, 80 a.m. Somebody named Adam was always up really early. And that's where the phrase came from. That's where it came from. But why did I think for 36 years, it was a man named Adam? Sort of like, and I've said this before, but I thought Alice in Wonderland was Allison, A-L-L-I-S-O-N, Wonderland. I thought Wonderland was her last name. But it's Alice in Wonderland. Wait, at what point did you realize that it was Alice in Wonderland? Within the last five years.

So I was a big adult at that time when I found out. It was probably two years ago, so I'm going to go with in my 30s. Okay. I need to tell everyone for the new year, one thing that is like the most underrated thing in your house is water pressure. What? What are you talking about? is water pressure. Okay, so let me tell you this story. So I'm trying to like revamp some stuff around here. And I mean, my house is so new. But you know, like there's things when you buy a house that you just kind of like wear them for a little while and you're like, okay, I need to do some new stuff. So in my shower, I have the waterfall like shower head. And then I've got the one coming out of the wall. Okay. So my hairstylist told me she was like, you need to get filters because I think that's what's messing with the color of your hair. hair. So way back when, and when I say way back when, six months ago, I get a filter and I put

it on one of the shower heads. Well, make it make sense because why would I wash my hair in both of the shower heads at different times, but I only put a filter on one? So I had no water pressure in the time, out of one of the shower heads, I had no water pressure. Okay. And that was when I was broke up with David. And I was like, oh, just fuck it. I'll use this other shower head. And when both of them break, then I'll call somebody to help. Well, I love that mentality. Honestly, it's like, you know what? We're not going to pay the fee to get someone out here twice. We'll wait till they both break. Yeah. We love a good budget. You know what I mean? I'm a, but I am like savvy. I'm making it work.

Okay. So David comes over for the first time. We get back together and he goes to take a shower and he goes, what's going on like with this water? And I said, oh, I don't know. It's been like that for three months. And he goes, oh, well, you just need to change the, like, filter in the filter. And I go, oh, okay, well, I don't know how to do that because you were the one that put, like, the filter up. So you need to be the one to change it. I go on Amazon. And I think that I'm ordering filter replacements, right? Like the filter and the filter. No, I order a whole another filter. So now both of my showerheads have said filter. Last night, I come home once we get out of our group chat. And I'm like, I need to take a shower and I need to immediately watch

Netflix. Please tell me why I get in the shower and the fucking thing blows me away. Like the water pressure is so hard. I'm like, I'm going to get out and look like I've been pelted with a paintball gun. Yeah. I will tell you when I took a shower this morning before this recording, that is the most underrated thing in a house. Like if you have bad water pressure, find a husband, find a man and tell him to like change your pressure. You know what I mean? Honestly, top-tier advice for 2026. Truly, top your advice. Change your water pressure. If you're unhappy, if you want to lose weight, if you are trying to get fit, if you have children, find a husband and have them change your water filter. That's it. That's the solution all 2026. If you are miserable or you are unhappy, change your

water filter. Change it. Let me tell you something else stupid that I did. So last year we had like one snow day. So I decide, oh, I'm going to turn on the fireplace and like it's going to be a cozy little event. Is it electric or is it like real? Gas. Gas. Okay. Gas one.

So it works last year. I go to turn it on for the first time this year because we're talking like, you know, 14 to 19 degrees right now. Yeah. Won't come on. And you just hear it clickety clack, clickety clock in there. And I'm like, nobody's touched this except me. So the only person that could have broken it would be me. So I contact Kristen and I'm like, hey, I need to like get a new fireplace or we need to call the builder.

So builder comes out here this morning, meets me out here, comes in and he clicks the thing on the wall. And he goes, yep, nothing wrong with your pilot light. Did anybody turn the gas off downstairs by chance? And I said, nope, because the only person that would have done that would have been me. and I for sure didn't do that. Please tell me why this man. I've been trying to fix this thing for three weeks. This man comes in, fixes it in five minutes.

The only thing he did was turn the switch on, off, on, off. And all of a sudden it went, I'm terrified of the pilots in gas fireplaces. I don't know why, but at my old house in Middletown, we had two gas fireplaces at two or three. And I was like, oh, no, I want the pilot out. out. Like, I don't even want that thing going. Why? You feel like it's going to create a fire? Yeah. Like, I, the, um, irrational fear of burning to death in a fire that I accidentally created

is all consuming. Is your most irrational fear to die in like a fiery, like crash or like a house fire? No. You said, no. My most irrational fear is drowning. Like, I feel like that would be the worst way to go out or a stabbing. Same. Same. So I'm, my knives aren't out. If you come to my house, good luck finding them. If you are an intruder in my home, good luck finding my knives because they're hidden away, so I never have to see them. I will tell you, another new year's resolution for me is to make sure I only open packages with a box cutter. why? Well, if you saw what my expensive knives looked like, so you know, like, when you open a box from Amazon or something and like it'll come with tape sometimes, well, I'll just, you know, take out a kitchen knife that cuts steaks open with and, you know, go. And then it has remnants of shit all over it. So in 2026, I'm going to only use a box cutter for my boxes or I'm not opening it. Okay. I do love that for you. I have to absolutely rave about skims. I am so glad that Kail and Lindsay finally convinced me to pick up some pieces for myself because I am absolutely obsessed. They are so comfortable. I do not deal with the typical issues that I deal with with intimates. Like bra's not fitting properly or underwear just utterly annoying me. I have recommended the pieces that I've purchased to so many of my friends and I will be reaching for these pieces again and again.

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My friends at Coffee Convo's podcast, I'm turning this so you guys can see. Oh, that's not a good angle, is it? 2026, organization and execution, okay? Okay. This is all 365 days of the year laid out on one big map. So I started working on it this morning when you're coming to Delaware, when I'm OOO, when we're recording. So I'm working on this, and it's all 365 days in one view.

Kail, I mean, like, I get it, but where is that going? It's going right here. Can you see me down here? Yeah, I can't. It's going right here. Like you're going to get it framed? No, it's a dry erase situation. So I'm not going to frame it.

I'm just going to use double-sided tape. And then the second thing I wanted to show you. is this show and tell this is show and tell this is how we're starting the new year off okay pita shout out to pita they love us they love coffee combos and we love them um they sent

me seven plushies for the children I'm assuming um and so we got seven different ones including a rat which creed and lux will freaking love the rat look at that um coloring pages rabbit fat

from PETA. So this is your sign to adopt, don't shop. Um, 26. By the way, are you getting a bird in 2026? Yep, I am. Like when? About, um, as soon as I have a Saturday free. Oh, that's when you're going to go and adopt?

Yep. Yep, I am. I bet it would be the first phone call. Oh, for sure. And then when you come to record, here in Delaware, I'm going to bring the bird. And it's going to just be walking around. Yeah.

The mascot of Coffee Convo's podcast is a bird. Kristen said, I better be there. First of all, it was her idea. Wait, did you see, like, the videos of the birds on TikTok and, like, outfits? They've got him with, like, little tiny hats, like, on top of their head. No? You haven't seen this? Mm-mm.

Oh, okay. I'm going to have to send you some videos. I'm like, yep, that's a baby shower gift. That's a pretty shower gift? It's a bird shower gift. Oh, my God. Honestly, what the fuck has Coffee Convo's podcast become? In 2025, we've been unhinged.

I feel like 2025, quite frankly, was probably the most unhinged, unsafe, possible treacherous. environment that I've ever lived in in my life. What is? 2025. The year 2025 was like one of the worst years of my life. Okay. 2025 also was a fucking dumpster fire for me. So I resonate with that really fucking hard.

It's just like I don't know. I feel like 2024 kind of just like so smoothly rolled into 2025 that I don't really have a gap. You know what I mean? It was just like the shit from 2024 just rolled straight into 2025 and there was, there was no break. Do you have any, I don't have any recollection of anything that occurred in 2024. Like I don't know anything that occurred in 2024.

And you know what I thought about last night and I wanted to ask you this? Isn't it so crazy how we all have like events that happened to us that we know the exact year that it happened? And then there are other, like mostly traumatizing or positive things that we remember. Like I know for a fact I graduated. in 2010, right? I graduated college in 2017. But then, like, I almost died in 2019, like very specific years. I have no recollection outside of the birth of my twins in 2023. I have no recollection of anything that happened in 2020. And I have no idea. Nothing that I can think of happened in 2024. But I know for a fact, 2019 and 2025 were two of my most traumatizing

years of my life. I wonder if it was just because you were parenting so many kids and maybe you just blacked out. Oh, I'm completely blacked out. I don't, you could not tell me something that happened. Like if you, Kristen, Alessandra, anybody told me, hey, Kail, this happened to you in 24. I would believe you and I have no memory of it. Okay. So I have to tell you this story that I was trying to explain to David, like how long we had been together. And I said, we got together and September of 2024. And he was like, yeah, but we can only really celebrate the amount of months that, like, we weren't broke up.

And I was like, yeah, but wait, you told me that you were in love with me that entire time. So, like, all of those months count. Oh, I would agree with you. I tend to agree. It's like, because if you're in love with me and we broke up, we're getting back together. Yeah. So all those months count. Because what are you going to say?

So if you get together in September and you break up in December, September, October, November, December. That's four months. And then you break up in December and then you get back together in March, you just celebrate all of it. You don't celebrate the months that you were only. So what are you saying? That's our six month anniversary, like month anniversary. I'm not doing that. Like, number one, I'm not doing that. We started dating in September of 24. And then we had a little hiatus between the last week of October until specifically. Christmas Day of last year. Okay. Okay. Then we ran it until October again. Right. Then we had like our stint, you know. Yeah. Like we just weren't vibing at that time. And then we got back

together. Right. So you celebrate all count. To me as your friend, David is always your boyfriend. Like even if you're broken up, like David and Lindsay. Do you know what I'm saying? And so for me, I just Gavin. Gavin. It's David Gavin. And you know what? You and David Gavin are always together. It doesn't matter if you're broken up. It's just one of those relationships. And that's okay. It really is okay. But like honestly, getting together in September, I would never recommend that for anybody because if you do break up, your holidays are fucked. I don't give a fuck about holidays. I know you don't. I'm just, I'm like, you know what? I need to call him on Christmas Day.

So that's what I did. And that happened in 2024. Yeah. Could you possibly remember anything that occurred to me in 2024? Um, yeah, probably not going to talk about it, but yeah. Honestly, 2024, because the twins were born at the end of 2023, that the entire first year of all babies' lives, at least in my parenting experience. The first year is a blur.

So that's why I don't remember because I had Rio who was an infant when the twins were born. And then I had the twins first year. So it was basically like the triplets that whole year I don't remember. I mean, but that makes sense. I think that having one baby, and you and I've talked about this, if I had one baby right now, it would take me the fuck out. Take me the fuck out. Three babies.

Three babies. like a triplet situation almost just go ahead and kill me but it's so much fun now like yesterday i was in the kitchen and i was like i just say that yeah like i they went to elijah's and i was like oh i kind of miss them obviously they get on my nerves sometimes there's three of them like fucking three of them at one time but wait can we talk about um would you rather have three babies and diapers at the same time or it's spread out Like one gets out of a diaper, then you have another baby, and now you're doing diapers again. Like, what would you rather?

That's a great question because I've had both. And thinking back, like, for Elliott, I was like, all right, you know, he was already in preschool when I had Lincoln. And then Lincoln, I said, you have to give up these diapers because the new baby is coming. And he was like, okay. And so he gave them up. And then I think I'd rather have neither. well babies have to wear diapers um so like how are you going to have them without the diapers because it doesn't really make it like a shitty diaper is a shitty diaper is a shitty diaper so

whether you're changing one or three at a time which happens often actually over the weekend valley shit three times in one day and I'm like what is going on so it was like her three shitty diapers plus versus Rio and versus diapers um and who's to say they're going to potty train at the same time. So I, I'd rather do the one and then they're out of diapers and then start another one. That's what I would rather. I would rather the opposite, I think. All at once. All at once, because then when you get rid of the diapers, they're just all gone. I'm hoping. So I wait, you guys know I wait to potty train until the last possible minute. It works out for us because we potty trained in usually under a week for Lincoln and Lux. It was literally two days.

I wait until about three. But to me, it just is like I'm not pulling my hair out for six months to potty train. You potty training for six months is not actually potty training, in my opinion. And I know some people are going to feel attacked by that, but like, why are we all going to lose our minds for six to eight months while you're potty training when you can literally wait until they're ready and do it in under a week? I don't know. So I'm hoping that in 2026, I heard girls potty train a lot easier. and sometimes sooner than boys. I might be able to potty train Rio just turned three.

So he'll be three and a half and then Valley versus more, I don't want to say he's more delayed, but I definitely don't see him potty training right away. So I'm going to wait for him, but maybe we could get two of them potty trained in 2026. I will say, I have heard that girls are way easier to potty train and just from being an older sibling and seeing it. Mm-hmm. I guess in my sibling situation, that wasn't necessarily true.

What about Jackson and Chloe? I think they were, she's always been, like, advanced. Do you think it's a girl thing, or do you think it's just every kid's different? I think every kid's just different. She's always felt like an adult to me. You know what I mean? Like, in comparison to Jackson, like, he was such a baby. And, you know, she could carry on a full-blown adult conversation with you, like, can

clean her room, can get herself ready for school, like, all of the things. things. And I just, you know, felt like I was waiting for my turn. Wait, but that's so interesting because even between verse and Valley, them being twins, they're premature, whatever, like, Valley can have a full conversation. She's two. And she can have a full conversation. And I do think that girls, like, kind of care more. Like, um, I remember when my sister was little, she used to have these days of the week panties that, like, had the days on the front. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And she was decently stubborn to potty train. I mean, I feel like she was just like the normal age to be potty trained, but a bit stubborn. And so she would always come to me and be like, I pee my pities. And I would tell her, I would be like, ooh, they're going to know because it's on a different day. Oh, no. Oh. Because it would be, you know, like, if you're supposed to be wearing Monday and it's Monday and now you're. You're

wearing Tuesday, a baby. Were they called labeled? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, all the panties are like days of the week. That's so funny. I mean, it's like not funny. Panties for Valley. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, just to get, and she's, she's starting to like know when she has to go pee, but she's scared to sit on the toilet because the toilet's at my house are not the same as at school. At school, they're nice and low, and they're like for little, for toddlers. Oh, wait. Starting the year with a wardrobe refresh, quince has you covered with lux essentials that feel effortless and look polished. They're perfect for layering, mixing, and building a wardrobe that lasts. Their versatile styles make it easy to reach for them day after day.

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in the past with the intention of using them, but I never actually used the little toilets where you sit them on the TV in front of the TV or something. I've only ever used real toilets. Because I'm not going from cleaning out, cleaning shitty asses and diapers to cleaning out shitty baby toilets. No, for all that, you can sit on the fucking toilet and use like the little seat, like handle seat thing. I'm not cleaning out tiny port of toilets. If you think that I am dumping her. from that into the actual toilet and then where am I washing that? Because it would be either the bathtub or a sink.

I guess you could do it in the shower. But the amount of germs that would like be transpiring in that moment like particles of shit. No. Like I'm I'm not doing that. I was never a fan of those. But I do know somebody who was so adamant about potty training their child and one of them potty trained so early that this person would put that. put that little tiny toilet in their car. And if the baby, if the child, I don't want to say if it was a boy or girl, but if the child was in the back seat and said that they had to go to the bathroom

would pull over on the side of the road, get that little potty out and let it pee on the side of the road on the potty. I feel like you could just let them pee outside and it would serve the same purpose. I don't think that peeing in the potty on the side of it, like if they're telling you they have to go to the bathroom and they're not doing it in their pants and they do it on the side of the road that makes more sense to me how old was your how old was the hardest child to potty train Elliot and creed and what were they like three or four three and a half three three and a half i think jackson was three years old and i will tell you potty training was so easy because i did the same thing as you like if you want to walk around sitting on yourself and you have no

interest in a toilet um i'm not having this conversation with you right now and i'm not having this conversation with you right now and I will continue buying pamper's okay um with the point that I know that you're now sneaking to your playroom to take a shit now you're mindful enough to know that you need to get on a toilet so now we've got a problem so then that's when we potty trained agreed I wholeheartedly agree with you so if anyone's listening and has somebody that's going to be ready to potty train in 2026. Just think about taking our advice on the potty training thing. I hate to see moms pulling their hair out for six to eight months potty training. And actually the first time I heard that, people were doing that. Oh, it took me six months to potty. I was like, have you all lost your

fucking minds? Yeah, they did. And then they lost it again when they were, they lost it at the point that they had the idea. And then they lost it again when they were doing it. Okay. Yeah, I would agree. So I can't get behind that um okay first question is how are we feeling going into the new year um we know hey remember last year let's let's go back on memory lane um yeah i was going to say memory lane remember last year when i ghosted everybody for like probably three and a half or four weeks and you were so pissed in 2025 or 2024 2024 going into 2025 i don't remember but i believe you you were like where have you been? Well, where were you?

You just needed to have a little you time or what happened? Remember, I was like going through it. I didn't have Jackson on Christmas Day last year, had been through a breakup and was like, you know, we should probably get back together, but I'm a little too stubborn for that. So I'm going to go to therapy on actual Christmas day. And then we're going to definitely get back together.

I think I was just going through it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I just, you know, enacted the D&D. You know what? The funniest part of all of this is that when people think that I'm nuts and then they hear you, I feel seen and heard and nobody can call me crazy because it's both of us. You think I'm crazy, but this is normal. Like we are having normal behavior.

I just needed some, you know, time, some R&R, some no phone. Actually, I was having a conversation with somebody the other day. And I said, I'm going to do, well, I'm going to attempt to do a challenge of where I turn my phone off for an entire week and see if it works. And they were like, that's never going to work. I will tell you, I was not a bit uncomfortable with not answering a single text message in four weeks. And actually, you and I have that conversation. And you were like, so, you just, what were you doing? Yeah, what were you doing? Did you read? You could read if you do it. I wasn't a reader at that time. Well, you are now. And I'll tell you what. The second the babies went to their dads on Sunday, I was reading the rest of the day. Wait. So are you all going to do any like

New Year's like cleaning or organizing? No. Yesterday I spiraled out of control and realized that my house is no longer functional and I know I've gone back and forth with that and I basically called Kirsten and said that the 2026 needs to be a year of execution because I need to break ground on my new house by the end of 2026. We are busting at the seams. So no, I'm not putting any more energy or money into my current home. So do you think that you will end up, I know there was a listener or probably multiple listeners at this point that had posted on the Facebook, like an update on your current house, your land, or if you would be willing to like find somewhere else. Is it still going to be the land and like building?

Yeah. I don't, unfortunately with having seven kids and needing a home office and, you know, needing very specific. Here's the thing. And I've talked about it before is like the house that I live in now, we built. in 20, I built it in 2022. It was we use, I built it in a way that we would use every single square foot in the house. And when I tell you every single crevice of that house gets used, there is no already existing home that would be that way. When I lived in the 7,000 square foot house in

middle town, half of it didn't get used. It was not really functional to, like it wasn't tailored to our needs. So unfortunately, we do have to build. We wouldn't be able to. able to do unless I guess we could do like a like a complete reno like if we bought an existing house and did a complete reno but at that point why not just like why not just custom build do you know and I've always been told that it's a lot more expensive to fix than it is to build new I don't know that that is there is in that no there is some truth to that it just depends where and what like when you're buying because at the time that I was building the house I'm in now the price per square footage for a build was significantly more.

I think it was double at the time of the square footage of a house that's already existing. So it would back then would have been cheaper to renovate versus building new. And one of the girls that I talked to that I used to know, she said, Kail, this isn't going to be your first. This isn't going to be your last build. And I was like, yes, it is. I never want to do this again. And I really don't.

But unfortunately, things change quickly and we need adjustments. but I had spiraled out of control called Kirsten yesterday and I said, we need to get everything in order, 2025, 2025, 2026 needs to be the year of execution because I need to start building by the end of 2026. I say all this to say, I'm going to be doing a lot of trial and error as far as money goes to see what works, what doesn't work, cutting costs where I can, budget is always a good year, organization execution. I think it is going to be a good, I think it's going to be a productive year. My goals before we come back to work. Actually, when I say come back to work before I come to Delaware is organization. I have a lot of space in this house to be able to be fully organized. But have you

ever felt like probably in your middle town house. Have you ever felt like there's too much space so you don't really like know what to do with the space? Yep. And that's how I felt in middle town. Yeah. Um, that's, that's what I'm dealing with. I think there's going to be a lot of visits to like the container store, um, in the first week of January, which container store loves to see me coming and the bank hates to see me going. Honestly, that is the exact same. Rebecca said that to me. She was like, I would really love to go over like some of the goals that you want to do for your organization. And it's like, sounds good, but actually no, because I'm not spending more money to just turn around and waste it and build a new house to organize in the way that I want this

house organized and and I have lived with a lot of stuff somewhat unorganized just kind of trying to get my feel around here and see like okay well I don't really like that there anymore I'm going to move it whatever so I'm not going to go and invest and a bunch of stuff from container store and then not use it so um it's it costs a lot of money to like be organized in the way that I want to be organized with the aesthetic and the way that I want it to look. Like, do I think that you can be organized like on a budget? 1,000 percent. But I like like the, I don't know, like the baskets that are like all matching. And if it's in my pantry, for example, like all those baskets need to be matching. And if it's in a closet and it's like school supplies and stuff

like that, all that stuff needs to be matching. No, I agree. I've worked with the meat method a bunch. It's under a new owner now, but the neat method, I've seen some other companies that have a similar situation where they do like the matching stuff and the aesthetic and they make it super functional. And I love that, like having a team help. But I mean, if we're talking about saving money, like hiring them is really expensive. It's so expensive. And I really just like want to be able to do it myself on my own time the way that I want it. Because even if you hire a company, sometimes, like, what might work for them and they think will work for you might not necessarily work. And so I'm just going to do it. I'm going to do it all myself. Jackson's

closet, kids closets, I feel like are a disaster. He pulls stuff off of hangers and I roll half of his stuff and then half the stuff gets unrolled. So I'm just going to do that. And another thing that I do in the new year pretty, I think I've done it every year since like 29. I always buy my towels and stuff from either Sam's or Costco. Oh. And I only have white towels in the house. And the bleach hates to see me coming. Because I bleach the hell out of sheets and towels.

I always go through my linen closet at the beginning of the year, every year. And I throw away like all of like my dingy towels. You know, like if I'm going to stop you right there. before you throw them out next time, donate them to a local animal shelter. Wait, what? They will take them? Yes. Oh, then I will drive it straight up to the animal shelter.

I'll put them in one time I got into a fight and I had to do community service. And so I did 100 hours of community service at an animal shelter. And they had like, this is really gross and foul, but they had like hundreds of cats in like one big room. Oh, wow. And we used, because you know how they have like the crates for like the animals? Mm-hmm. We would use the donations of towels and bedding for in the cat containers. Okay, well, I will take all of my towels there.

I love a fresh white towel. And after a while, I mean, bleach doesn't even, you know, do the job anymore. So I do that. every single year. So that's on my list. Coffee Convo's podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today, smart choice. Progressive loves to help people make smart choices. That's why they offer a tool called AutoQuote Explorer that allows you to compare your

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Me and Davy Pavey. No, Gavin. Gavin. Well, me and Gavin. I want to go. Come. I want to go to Mexico with y'all. Come.

We'll be drinking mojitos on a little beetles on a little beat. bed with our Kindles. Does he read those? No, remember that time that I told you when we did our first Mexico trip together and I brought a book and he was like jealous of my book. I don't, I believe you, but I don't remember that. Yeah, so this was sometime, sometime within the last year, I decided I was going to become a reader. And so I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to bring this book. And when we go out and we're, you know, laying on that beach bed, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

going to get some pages in. Yeah. He was like, I really just don't like that idea. I said, well, why not? We're just like laying there drinking little mojito here, a little tequila there, you know? He's like, no, because what if I want to talk? No. Literally no.

Bring your laptop. Bring your laptop. Get on TikTok, get on reels. Like, take an app. Do your day trading, whatever the fuck yourself are doing. check your check that but I'm not we're not talking if I bring my book do not talk to me wait so when we got back together actually recently I asked him I said are you still like jealous of my kindle like this is something that I need to know and he was like no I love that you read like it's so

good I don't know what I was thinking whenever I said that I just wanted to spend time with you and I'm like okay well you can spend time with me and watch my eyeballs scan this page absolutely Okay, so the next question is, do either of you feel like there is pressure behind New Year's energy and does it feel for sometimes? And I do feel like a lot of times we have pressure around the holidays. I know you don't really care about the holidays, but like there's all this pressure to do all of these things in such a short amount of time. And then by the time it gets the New Year, it's like, I wish I had more time to prepare to like enter this. I never feel pressure behind New Year energy at all. Like I always have used it as, and like I don't have a great memory. So maybe in the past I felt that way, but I don't remember ever feeling like there's pressure within the New Year. I feel like there's pressure, a lot of pressure around me for Christmas, because people

always try to convince me of why I should do X, Y, and Z, or why I should celebrate, or why don't I just do this or why don't, because I'm happy in my misery for Christmas. That's why. But I don't have, I don't feel pressure around New Year's. always have used it as a time to try to execute whatever it is, whatever my hopes and dreams are for the new year. I just wish that December in a perfect world could have two extra weeks. So it's like we get past the holiday part. And then we would have the two extra weeks to like truly prepare whatever our intentions are going into January. Agreed. Yeah, I agree with that.

Because I do feel like as soon as the new year hits and then they go back to school, it's almost like all of that just never happened. Do you get what I mean? And so it just feels like we didn't wait, we didn't have enough time. That's like the only thing that I'm like, feel like, okay, there's pressure for the time, but I never feel like New Year itself. I want to talk about my word balance for a second because I feel like it goes hand in hand with boundaries too. Like to have balance, I feel like you have to have proper boundaries. And sometimes I'm just like not the best at those um same i very much i don't want to say i give in to peer pressure but like i very much given to it's just like oh yeah i can do that or like yeah i'll be there or yeah i can grab

lunch or you know yeah i can meet you no i can't or or or i can't or i can't but i don't like i literally will say to somebody oh yeah i've got time to do that no one good and damn well. I never did. And like, I try to make it all fit and work. And it, I have to have like a better balance. Like, I really want to, um, tighten up like my bedtime routine. Like, I think it's very important. Um, I'm laughing, but like, is this life in our 30s is like tightening up our, like our 2026 New Year's resolution is to tighten up our bedtime routine. Like, I kind of dig it. Like, it's not like we're like, oh, I want to talk about my baby daddy's less. I want to, you know, be less controversial.

It's like, I want to tighten. And that was me making fun of myself, by the way. For you is like, I just need to tighten up my bedtime routine. Like, same. I need to get a handle on Lux and Creed because they're out of fucking control. I just feel like a bedtime routine is so important for every day. And I would like to really structure Jackson going to bed more regularly at the same time. It's kind of like a free-for-all over here, and Will, if you're listening, I know, so don't even send me a text or call my phone number.

We do what we want at this house. And so if, you know, we're watching Home Alone and it's 945 and we've already done everything else that we need to do, but it's like still 945, I don't care. I don't care. what I will say in 2026, I will be in bed and so will Jackson. I love that. It's really important, like, to also have the alone time and, like, the separation to really, like, be one with yourself and your bed. That's important.

Like, I'm going to clean out my pajama drawer. Like, I have found several sets of pajamas from skims that I absolutely love that I need to buy, like, all the color ways that they possibly have. So I have a freshie every single night and that's going to be part of my bedtime routine and like my skin care. And I need to make sure that I read for like 45 minutes before bed and I want to have an actual watch list so that I can share it with everybody in 2026, like an actual physical copy of a watch list of all the things that I'm watching.

You should film, get unready with me and like do a bedtime routine video. well i don't have one right now no no when you have when you create film the get on ready with me and then my bedtime routine you could do two separate videos and then um i make i'm creating this for you this is me my creative brain is saying that you should do those especially for ticot so that you can also make money okay it says each of you need to finish these sentences oh my god i'm scared This year, I want to stop. This year, I want to stop over consuming. This year, I want to stop overspending.

This year, I want to stop people pleasing. This year, I want to stop not following through, especially with my kids. And by that, I usually mean with discipline. If you do this, we are not going to the birthday party and actually follow through. If you do this, you are not getting a piece of candy, period. that's just something like I just made that up but like I want to follow through with my kids but so often I give into what's easier for okay if your behavior is this way in the morning and then by the end of the day you're doing better but I had said while you were your behavior was out of control that you weren't going to X Y and Z event I want to follow through that's what I mean with my kids I can very much relate to that um I think it's like not to discredit having one child but I would venture to guess it's It might be easier to follow through with one kid than it would for multiple. Like the struggles that I have with Lux and Creed are so different than what I had with Lincoln and Elliot.

Like, Lux and Creed truly are, they get away with murder. That's and and partially because I overcompensate, partially because I don't follow through with disciplining. And I'm starting to see the effects of that. And I don't want it to get worse as they become teenage. So I really, really want to focus on that during 2026. It's actually a conversation that I just had with Will the day before yesterday. He said, you don't follow through with what you say you're going to do. You're like, if you don't do this, then I'm taking the phone.

And then the phone, like, never goes away. I definitely need to get better at doing that, although I'm probably not. Just like full transparency, I'm probably not. This year, I would like to stop saying fuck so much. But if everybody could leave me alone, I feel like it would fix itself. Like you feel like without the pressure of people telling you you need to stop, that you would be able to stop. Okay.

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With Gavin, David. David Gavin. Yeah. Okay. I mean, why do you think that it is, why do you think that you do it in the first place? Well, I think that there's just like every situation has different pressures that are around them that could come from inside influences or outside influences. And so sometimes it just feels very overwhelming. And you can probably relate to this in a time of living by yourself with your kids, it feels like easy, right? Like, just you and your kids. Yep. And sometimes I just feel so overwhelmed that, and it's a good overwhelmed to some degree. But it's like, what if I give up this and it doesn't work out, then I've got to like redo all of the things that I had already

done, you know? Yes. I completely resonate with that. And so that, that's probably like the main reason why I do it. And it's just kind of like, and David said this. Lindsay, you like, when we break up, you think that's a hiatus. And at my big age, I'm like, no, we broke up. I'm like, no, that's not what happened. Like I needed some time. I needed some space. I needed some thinking. I needed some sleeping. I needed some reading. Um, and then I came to my senses and then I'm good. You know what I mean? So what is the solution to that, though? I have no idea. Um, I need to work on myself definitely in therapy for sure. Because I think if you have been through a divorce and then you have lived on your own with your child, it is very, very hard. It's like you want to get back into a

place with somebody that you're like, okay, we can live together and like we can do life together and we can do all of these things. But for me, I'm like, what if that doesn't work? And then what? And then I let the fear like dictate my next move. Instead of moving from a place like, I know this is right and I know it's good and I know I should be in this. I will just be so fearful. I would love to just know what your therapist would say about that, I also operate that way. I see where this is going based on past experiences and I'm going to end this entire relationship before you can hurt me, before you can say something that's going to hurt my feelings or you're going to break up with me before I break up with you. I will just end it really quick. I operate like that as well.

And I think it is truly the fear of knowing that you've given somebody the ability to be able to hurt you to your core. Yes. Yes. Like you now you, you know too much. You've seen too much. You know all the ways to hurt me. And now I've given you that power and not regret it, but it's like I recognize that I gave you that power. So now it's shit. Now I have to fix this before you can hurt me, use my past to hurt me, basically. But I feel like true love is giving somebody the ability to be able to hurt you and trusting that they wound. Yeah. It's the trusting hurt.

Yeah. I'm there too. Okay. Last sentence to complete. This year I'm giving myself permission to. This year in 2026, I'm giving myself permission to say no to people, guilt-free. I'm giving myself permission to live freely. Love that.

like whatever that looks like i can't i can't live with worrying about like what the public might think or what a friend might think or what somebody's saying but like no i'm just going to live freely like who i am and make the choices that i feel like are in the best interest of myself and my household agreed and i love that we love that for each other look at us we're just like little Twinsies. And on that note, we have foul play. All right, here I go. Hi, Kael, Lindsay, and Kitty Gang. I never thought I would have a foul play to share, but as soon as it happened, I knew I had to share. Multiple pieces to the story, so follow the bouncing ball. I'm currently on Ozmpic, so I already struggle with the side effects of that, mainly constipation and also hair loss. Sometimes

when I travel, I also get constipation from the change in elevation levels. That definitely, has that happened to you? No. If I fly, I don't shit for like four days. Wait. Okay. So that's so interesting that you say that because I was talking to Kristen not too long ago. And I said, I feel constipated, but I feel like I only get constipated if I know that I'm busy and I need to poop so bad. But I'm like, I'm too busy to poop.

So I'm, you know, just doing all the things. And then by the time I have time to go poop, then I can't because it's like all like can pack up. Yeah. Yeah. No, I also feel the same, but sometimes I just, I shit myself, so. Um, well, at the end of August, I flew to Florida for a birthday celebration and minimally used the restroom for the four days we were there. We flew home on a Tuesday and I had surgery on Thursday, two days later, which can also cause constipation due to the pain meds. I was on the struggle bus majorly after surgery with stomach pain because I hadn't gone to the restroom. Day after surgery, my nurse sister suggested a stool softener. So meds were ordered and taken.

and still no relief. So two days of stool softener and a laxative and no success. So I finally said, fuck it. And I put a glove on and started to pull the hard poop out piece and piece all while praying the glove didn't tear as a habitual nail salon girly. A little more backstory. I had surgery on my right wrist, which is my dominant hand. And I had a cast on it. So I had to use my left hand. I had to do this several times over a day or two to finally get relief and thank you poop gods. My poop returns somewhat normal with a side of liquid. It was not a fun experience pulling poop out of my own ass, but it had to be done. Some might ask why I didn't use an enema. Well, your guess is as good as mine. Thank you for taking the time to read my story. And I love

listening to y'all talk, signed poop puller. Wait a second. I didn't know that you could pull poop out of your ass. You didn't know that? No. Becky disimpacks herself once a month. Wait, what? Yeah. How? Becky, let me ask her. Hold on. There is no way that's real. No, she literally, I'm going to call her right now. but what if you're not impacted but you are like at the point that you're pulling turt hard poop out one by one that happened to me one time no i'm saying like you're saying becky does it on a schedule yeah she's not answering but after i had my breast reduction surgery i was i didn't i shit you not i probably could have died um i didn't shit for 12 days did you ever think about i was this

close to disimpacting myself but how do you do that you just i i was going to have becky explain it becky was the one that told me to put on a glove and pull the shit out but i'd rather go to the er like it was bad like me and sterling were crying in the bathroom because i didn't know what to do oh she's calling me hold on okay hello are you okay yeah i'm fine do you still disimpact yourself regularly um not no actually i haven't had to in a little bit So, like, could you describe the process to me? Yeah, you have to disimpact yourself? Yeah.

No, no, no. What? No, I don't have to disemact myself. I don't have to disemact myself. There's somebody wrote in to Coffee Commons podcast talking about how she had to disimpact herself. And Lindsay said, are you recording right now? Yeah.

What the fuck? And I said that you never knew that you could do that. And I said, I'm pretty sure Becky does it regularly. And I almost had to do it after my breast reduction. But like, could you tell, like, you put a glove on? I was fully prepared to, like, just give you really good friend advice. Can you please do it, though? Yeah.

So you put a glove on. Okay. Because, like, I don't like getting poop on my hands, you know? Right. Of course not. And so sometimes all. all it takes, and you probably don't even really need gloves to this, but I would do it anyway, just in case you slip your hand. Push, like, the area between your badge and your butt.

Okay. And it'll, it'll, like, kind of loosen things up, and you do it from the other side, too. So, like, around it before even going in. Sometimes that'll, like, push the hard clump there to a head, and it'll just come out. But most of the time, you have to just stick a finger in. and like start like pulling it in piece by piece out that's what she said in the foul play that's what she said she said she was like super contemplated she had to pull it out like piece by piece but um it's it's a struggle for a lot of people and so i was like let me see what

what becky has to say literally you can't believe that you didn't start this call with hey i'm recording hey i'm recording if i told you that you weren't going to tell me the truth. I feel set up. Hi, Lindsay. I miss you so much. Hi. Miss you too.

Thank you for the story time. I really appreciate it. I just can't believe that Becky does that. I love you. Bye. Bye. Like, isn't that called your gooch? I call it a taint.

Well, I think it is a taint on a woman and it's a gooch on a man, I think. Okay. So it's a... And some people call it a nacho, like nacho ass, nacho balls. I've never heard that. day in my life. Well, I know somebody who told me it. And I'm not telling you who told me it. Type it in the chat. His name sounds like odd. Oh, okay. On that note, thank you so much for listening. Thank you guys so much for listening and supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple

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