Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Incognito Predators, Wendy Williams Docu-series & U.S. Travel Advisories

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

CC338: A tiktok video opens our eyes to the reality of what kind of people child predators can be. It seems to be a weird time to be traveling as news of tourists getting assaulted begin to increase with the most recent being in the Bahamas. Kail gets informed about travel advisories. Kail gives her thoughts after watching the new Wendy Williams docu-series and Lindsie shares what she has heard throughout the years of Wendy. Hailey Beiber's sister has gone wild in Savannah, GA according to news outlets, and one of today's Foul Plays actually has us a little upset. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a place Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month IQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000. By Texting 64000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from IQBAR. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply, available at IQBAR.com. Reply "STOP" to stop, "HELP" for help Stamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale! Stitch Fix: Try today at StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. My weekend. My weekend is fully booked. Listen, I saw that shirt or that sweatshirt that you posted on Instagram. And I was like the fact that she is now wearing like book sweatshirts and posting book sleeves. It's gone way too far for me. book sleeves, it's gone way too far for me. No, I'm obsessed because now I'm buying two copies of everything.

I have like my physical copy with my bookmark. And then because everything in Delaware, I would imagine it's not like this in Georgia. Maybe it is. I don't know. Everything is at least 20 minutes. So going to Creed school, 20 minutes, going to Luxus school, just about 15, 20 minutes. So going to Creed school 20 minutes, going to Lexus school just about 15, 20 minutes and anywhere in between is at least 20 minutes or more. So I'm like, okay, but I can't read during that time. So now I buy the physical copy to read at home. And then I'm also using

audio books during the car rides. So now I'm so unhinged that I'm buying two copies because it's the audio version and the physical copy. This is way too much for me. Way too early in the morning. Ma'am, good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. Good morning.

I washed my hair last night in preparation for today because I was a prepared girl. Please tell me why I decided to oil my hair and now I have to wash it again. Well, so Taylor told me to oil your hair or do your scalp treatments, whatever you're doing, the night before wash day. I know that you typically wash every day, but I guess you should have done it last night

and then this morning when you showered or whenever you showered, you would wash it. Okay, if we do that, this might be a stupid question, but where are you putting your head when you sleep? Well, you should wear a silk bonnet. Okay, you're taking everything too far this morning. If you think that I am wearing a silk bonnet to bed. Well, then you should have like a silk pillow

specifically for your hair that you, if you don't wanna wear a silk bonnet, you can use a silk pillow specifically for your hair that you... If you don't want to wear a silk bonnet, you can use a silk pillow and that way you only get that one with oil on it. Okay. Do you wear a silk bonnet at night? Sometimes. But I have two pillows with silk, satin, silk, whatever, pillowcases. Those are mine.

Elijah knows those ones are mine. I have been seeing all of these videos of these women out here doing the heatless curl method and all the men just like, what the fuck did I marry? And like, why does she look like this whenever she goes to bed? This was really not what I signed up for. And I need to know if Elijah feels like that

when you're wearing your soap vomit. Probably not. Nothing fazes him. But okay, So we have so much to cover this episode and I want to start by talking about the TikTok that I sent you. I know that you also saw it, but I really want to talk about it. So I sent Lindsay this TikTok that I saw that was basically along the same lines as the conversation that we had last week about sleepovers. And Lindsay had said that she saw it too. And her name is Randy. She was, was or is a correctional officer and she worked in prisons. And she

basically just talked about how the nicest, most helpful inmates that she encountered while at the prison were child predators. And I don't think that anything could have made me more sick to my stomach than this video. And one, I feel like she is doing God's work because, you know, I don't think people ever thought of that. She said that they would always ask her, did she need help? They were always kind to her.

They don't look like... You know how we have this, I don't want to call it a stigma, but we have this idea that child predators are these weirdo looking people that are driving in these old ragged vans and want to lure your kid into their car with candy? I don't think that that's what's happening. And I think that's what she is saying in this video. So what was really alarming to me in that video was the fact that they were like the nicest people at the prison. Could you, at that point, how do you decipher

who is a child predator and who's not? I don't think you can. And I 100% agree. I for whatever reason just think, okay, this, I'm going to know a child predator if I see them. Like that's, that's in my mind. Yeah, of course. And then when I saw that TikTok, I was like, wow, that's very interesting.

It also was interesting to me that they separate them. I had no idea. See, I did know that or I've heard like, talkings of that just for the simple fact that like, if you throw one in like general population or whatever they do in like actual prisons, I know that they, other prisoners or other inmates don't fuck with that. So if you heard a child, you're automatically like, they'll go after you. I've definitely heard stories of that. So I mean, I kind of agree with her when she said, well, I mean, throw them in general population and see what happens. But also that's just, it's just so to connect those dots and like really think about it is terrifying. Well, and then did you see the part?

What's that hiding in plain sight? Yeah, yeah. That's exactly because they're not going to make themselves look suspicious. They want to be incognito. You would never think of them as a child predator. And just think about this. After I watched that video, I thought to myself,

I wonder how many child predators we actually encounter on a daily basis just through the grocery store or a restaurant or just like all these places that we visit. I wonder how many are actually on a sex offenders list. I know at one point after I had Jackson, I don't know if you've ever done this, but I think we talked about it one time, looking up the sex offenders list. I haven't done it in a really long time, but when I was dating someone, because he had a rental,

he told me that he looked it up. And I don't know, it just gives you the heebie-jeebies. He had one that was like less than a mile from his house. And when we would go walking around his neighborhood. It was like when I saw his house, it gave me like spine chills. And it'll tell you like the date of the offense or whatever when you look it up. And I mean, it was like many, many years ago.

One time this man was in his yard and like,, I don't know, if you're on a sex offenders list and you have preyed on a child before, how do you live like your life on a daily basis knowing that like everybody knows that or has access to knowing that? It's just the strangest thing to me. I don't wanna get hate for what I'm about to say, but I do wonder. And I don't know if on one hand, I don't want to ever give someone like this a platform.

So I don't, it's like, but I just want to get into like the psychology of it. Is it like someone with addiction where they don't want to be where they are? Is it like that? Or is it not like that? Like, do they think like, I don't know why I'm like this or maybe it happened to them? Because I do know that a lot of times people who are hurting children, that they were hurt as children. Not saying that's an excuse whatsoever. But I just I want to know from a child predator standpoint, do you like because I know a lot of them would reoffend if they would get back if they would get out.

But it's like, are you in a mindset of I don't know why I'm like this? I don't want to be like this, but I can't help it? And then at that point, you need to be locked up forever. Forever, 100%. And do you feel like, obviously grown adult, right? They're making conscious decisions when they're doing what they're doing. But is it like something with their brain chemistry or something that is just so warped and messed up. I don't know, because I almost feel like these type of people are just master manipulators, because if they are just kind and sweet and helpful, all these things, but then they're doing these

heinous crimes to children, to me, that's like a very conscious train of thought. Right. Like you are. It's just like any other person that when you any other adult who makes the same choice over and over, that's like you can no longer say it was a mistake because you're choosing to do it again and again. I don't know. I don't understand it. And I mean, it has to be in balance because normal people, everyday people, a majority of us do not think about children in that way. So it has to be in

balance. Yeah, it's, it's something maybe like a stunting of like brain growth or something. I mean, I don't, I really don't know. And if anybody is like versed on this and you have any information, please send it our way so that... I want to know the psychology behind all of it, honestly. Another thing that was interesting to me in the video and then we can move on was she said that you're not supposed to, as a correctional officer, you're not supposed to go and look

up the offense and that she did. I don't know when you're dealing if you are a normal functioning woman. I don't know how you would hold that job and be dealing with these people all day and not be curious to like go and look it up to want to know like what's going on. Well also too, just to be aware of what you're dealing with. Correct. You, because like you said, they're master manipulators, right?

So I need to know what type of person am I dealing with? Are they going to swindle me? Do I fall, like can I believe what they say? Because I don't feel like all people that go to prison are horrible people. I don't believe that. So I do feel like there are people who redeem themselves. I do feel like people deserve second chances and sometimes third. And so I feel like if if they don't want you to go, you know, be left to your own devices and look people

up and get you know, form your own opinion, they should at least be like this person and here's what we, what you need to know kind of thing. Yeah. Because if I was in that position as a correctional officer, just as a woman dealing with men in that capacity, I feel like that's negligent to not let me know what I'm dealing with. A hundred percent agree with that. Like deal with the devil that I know, not the devil I don't. If that saying comes up in my life one more time within the next six months, I'm going to get it tattooed on me because that has literally been the phrase,

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text combos to 64,000 that's combos to 64,000 message and data rates may apply see terms for details. Speaking of devils. Um, so I was scrolling as I try not to do, but I came across Natalie Holloway update, which we haven't talked about in a long time. And I don't know that we ever talked about her brother. So her brother shares details from the days after Natalie Holloway's murder. Her brother shares details from the days after Natalie Holloway's murder. And he says, quote, I remember my dad jumping down into a landfill and just physically ripping trash bags open, moving large appliances, picking up stuff with his bare hands and just

searching for Natalie's body. Dad was in that 100% and seeing that was really powerful. And then obviously we know that Natalie's body was never found. Her father says, I had a gut feeling just as a parent, you have that feeling that she's not here anymore. But on the other hand, I had to convince everybody else that I had the wrong feelings and maybe we would find her alive, but I had a sinking feeling that things weren't right. So I have seen a lot of videos, documentaries, even books that I've read where the mom or the parent like knows that they're not with us anymore. Even when we watched Lover, Stalker,

Killer, the mother of the deceased said she had this like intuitive gut feeling that her daughter was no longer here. And I find that so interesting that like even siblings or just immediate family members feeling in their gut without even truly knowing. Do you remember, it's different but similar. I'm going to say possibly mother's intuition. Remember when Jackson started kindergarten and I was going to put him in private school and I dropped him off and I had a gut feeling like something was not right. So I called the school and something was not right. He could not find his way to the classroom and he was sitting in the gym by himself. And it's like you have, I feel like as a mother, you get some type of like super power intuition that you just know something is wrong. And

I could not imagine being that mother knowing that my child, what was it? Spring break in another country. Oh no, I think it was her graduation. Oh, graduation trip. Yeah, graduation trip. Being in another country already being hesitant to allow her to go and just having a gut it's like that gut feeling of something is wrong. I can't imagine what it would feel like having the gut feeling that your child was dead. No, I don't. When I read books, especially like it's one thing to watch it when you get into the mindset of like reading a

book and one of the books I just read was like that and The emotions that were described about losing her child. I could have thrown up, you know what I mean? And I never experienced it I think that it changes you in a way that you can't ever you'll you'll never be able to compare it and it's just something That's it goes against nature. It's supposed to go against nature. Did you see that there's a new documentary out? No, I didn't. Yeah, there's a there's a new documentary out on how do you even say his name? Vander Sloot?

Yeah. Yeah, there. I've been seeing people posting about it on TikTok and Instagram. So I had planned on watching that this weekend. One thing that I did see was a common trend of people saying that they believe that there were more victims than just Natalie and there was another girl. In Peru, yeah, his girlfriend at the time. I would have to agree with that for the sole fact of, you know, Aruba is a destination place. It's a bucket list place, I feel, for a lot of people. It's a vacation place.

And so you have to wonder how many people from other countries came to visit and did not either have the resources or maybe the same connections to have or publicity impressed that Natalie Holloway's family was able to acquire. I don't even know how that happens. Like how does the US determine which ones they're going to give resources and things like that too? So I would have to, because if he did it in Aruba with an American and then he did it in Peru with, I don't think that she was from America and I don't know if she was actually

Peruvian. So if he's doing it with multiple women from multiple countries, I would also guess that there are more victims. That was just like one common thing that I had seen, but I haven't watched it yet. So whenever I watch it, if I find out anything interesting, I'll let you guys know. I have always wondered though, since the Natalie Holloway disappearance, I wonder how much that affected the tourism there. I know a lot of people who've gone and love Aruba. I was supposed to go a couple of years ago and we didn't end up going.

We changed destinations or whatever it was. I would be curious to know how many, I guess maybe now it's maybe picking up in a little bit different, but I would want to know from her disappearance until the, I guess, like, repeat of their tourism, like how much time and how much it was affected, because I'm sure it was. I mean, think about the Bahamas right now with all the stuff going on in the Bahamas. I would imagine less people are going there.

It's so crazy. Aruba was like a bucket list place for me growing up. And then when that happened in Natalie Holloway, my parents were like, you're never going there. And we're also not taking you there. See? But that was like, you're never going there. So it wasn't just like a short time. It's like, oh, maybe we'll revisit the idea in 10 years.

Yeah. But what's interesting to me is if you really look into that, it's like, okay, a woman goes missing there, never recovered her body and things like that. But then you have things like the alcohol poisoning situation that happened in Dominican Republic and then the mass shootings on resorts or those types of things in Mexico and people just go back to those places like nobody's business. So it's really interesting. And I would still go to Mexico even knowing what I do know, obviously more cautiously, but still go, but for whatever reason,

I still have this like fear to go to Aruba because my parents instilled that in me. Which is insane because if I had to guess, and don't kill me for saying this, I would have to guess there's probably more crime in Mexico than in Aruba tourism. Oh, I'm sure. Speaking of crime, did you see where, I mean, it's been all over the internet about the 80-year-old Canadian mom with Alzheimer's who was

raped by a tourist at the Bahamas Hotel? What? No, I did not hear about this at all. Okay, so I'm reading from the New York Post. We'll make sure to post this article so you guys can read if you choose. But it says, a tropical family vacation turned into a nightmare when a stranger kidnapped and raped their elderly mother who suffers from Alzheimer's. The Canadian man allegedly seized the opportunity to drag the 80-year-old woman into his hotel room out of a homeless resort after she became separated from the rest of the family.

This happened last month. She disappeared inside of an elevator and was with an alleged pervert, invited himself to the family's dinner earlier that evening, and then she was taken and raped. Says the family spent the next 30 minutes frantically patrolling every floor of the hotel searching for the woman and pleading with the hotel staff to search through security footage and they found their mother and the man right where they left them but under unthinkable circumstances. In a quote, one of the kids said, of course, my mother was frightened. And while we don't need to get

into a ton of detail, what I will say, it is horrendous that she was holding her underwear in her hand at that point in the elevator. She was rushed to a local hospital where she tested positive for a rape kit. Does it say how he explained himself? So it says surveillance footage allegedly showed the man pushing the woman who was shown clearly resisting into a hotel room He was a 61 year old man And has been charged with the rape of the 80 year old woman. It doesn't really say a ton of other information. But one of the kids said,

our concern is the combination of the Alzheimer's plus the incident of being sexually assaulted and raped. That's playing with her mind. So we're just worried that it's playing in her subconscious and it's making things worse at the moment. Alzheimer's is one of my worst fears. Also any type of sexual assault and rape is, I've been through it and it's absolutely horrifying. So I, my, all my love goes out to that family and that woman because I cannot imagine the fear.

Can you just imagine, because didn't one of your grandparents have Alzheimer's? Yes, my grandmother had Alzheimer's. She got it in her 60s, her early 60s. Did they say like what causes it? Um, I don't or do you remember developed pretty rapidly and I don't I don't know what causes it. I think there's like a lot of research going into it that certain deficiencies can cause it certain proteins can cause it I think it might vary by case and also by the type of dementia or Alzheimer's that you have.

But I'm so terrified of, I'm scared of it skipping my mom who should get it and going right to me who is terrified of getting it. Well, I don't mean she should get it. I just mean that if one of us was going to get it, it should be her. The way that it came out though, it was just so funny. Sorry about that. Poor Susie. Poor Susie. We don't wish Alzheimer's on you. I could not imagine taking an elderly family member with Alzheimer's. Is Alzheimer's and dementia the same thing?

Dementia is a general term and Alzheimer's is a specific brain disease. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. I just could not imagine taking an elderly family member to the Bahamas on a family vacation and them being raped. Could you imagine knowing that your 80-year-old grandmother had Alzheimer's, you were in the Bahamas and you were searching this resort for her and then find her holding her panties.

That is fucking foul. I can't imagine that in any way, shape or form, especially because the elderly are already defenseless almost, a lot of them. At 80, like- Yeah. I mean, I cannot. Horrible. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.

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Speaking of dementia and Alzheimer's though, I did start watching the Wendy Williams docu-series about everything that's going on with her. And so there's two, I didn't know there was two. So there's one about where she is today and the state of, you know, her health and things like that now. When I went to, when I had taken a break and I went to go back to it, I accidentally put on a different one that was from 2021. And I'm playing it and I'm like, wait a minute, this can't be the same one that I was just watching. Lindsay, the difference between Wendy Williams in 2021,

which I would imagine that docu-series or that documentary probably took one or two years to create. So we're talking Wendy Williams from 2019 to 2021. And 2024, Wendy Williams or 2023 rather, the three year difference was I am having a hard time. I didn't get to finish it, but I'm having such a hard time wrapping my brain around how rapidly and how rapidly her health and her conditions are deteriorating. Like it was scary. What was she diagnosed with again?

She was diagnosed with primary progressive aphasia and frontotemporal dementia. So I believe this is the same type of dementia that Bruce Willis has and the one that Bruce Willis has, he can't talk. Wait, there's a dementia like that where you can't talk? Yeah. I do think based on the documentary that there's a multitude of things going on here. I think with her rapid decline,

I think there's a little bit of a psychotic break a little bit. I am just speaking from what I saw. I also think that she is, for lack of better words, a raging alcoholic. So I think that also is in fact lack of better words, a raging alcoholic. So I think that also is in... That's what I was going to say. I saw an article about it where her son said, and I don't want to exactly quote because

I don't have the quote in front of me, but he had spoke to the press and said that her condition was onset by the alcoholism. They denied that any of the dementia and the diagnosis is related to the alcohol in the documentary, in the docu-series that I watched. I'm only on episode two or three. I don't know how many episodes there are even. Wells Fargo did in fact place a hold on all of her money. So she has no access. They appointed a guardian to her.

And from what I have seen, she only has one son named Kevin. And Kevin was essentially taking care of her. The entire family was taking care of her in Florida. They moved her from New York to Florida to take care of her. And I'm a little torn on how I feel about her son because I do feel like in the docu series, it seems like he has her best interest at heart. And I know the rest of the family has her best interest at heart. It sounds like her nephew, her parents, her sister, I believe her brother, were all really

looking out for her and wanting the best for her. And they started to see a little bit of a difference from moving from New York to, I believe Miami or somewhere in Florida. But they basically accused the family and her son Kevin specifically of spending her funds and in a way that was kind of over the top. But if you're watching and if you've seen Wendy Williams over the years, you kind of know that that is in her character to have lavish things. I mean, she's talking in the documentary about wanting to wear Chanel and she's got the Fendi and she, Fendi is expensive.

Fendi is probably one of the more expensive ones that I've seen her wear. She wears Louis Vuitton, she wears, and these things are really expensive. And so Kevin says a quote in one of the episodes where he says like, my mom is not cheap. My mom is, she likes lavish things. She likes the higher end items. And so on one hand, I'm like, I do want to believe what he's saying. But with that being said, when you know that a family member is sick to the point that

you're having to take care of them, there has to be a way that you're able to scale that down because they're sick. They're not. And I don't know that for sure because I've never taken care of them, there has to be a way that you're able to scale that down because they're sick. And I don't know that for sure because I've never taken care of one. But I would imagine that if I was to get dementia and I like certain things a certain way, my kids wouldn't have to necessarily have them to that standard because it's not necessary. Does that make sense? It's no longer necessary and I'm not able to request those things.

And it's like, where are you wearing Fendi to? Like your living room? She wears it in her living room. She's wearing Chanel, like a pearl necklace by Chanel in these interviews and her eyes are bulging out of her head and she's not well. Like she's not. No, the photos that I saw, she looks very unwell and I'm gonna like take this like far back.

So when she still had her talk show, Wendy Williams, she had that collapse live on the show. Yeah. And I have just heard about the alcoholism for many, many years because my dad appeared on her show many moons ago. And she like ate him up. And then on the show on well she would know she was like super nice to him on the show. And then I can't remember there was like a falling out like a Todd Chrisley Wendy Williams falling out. And he refused during press tours to ever appear on Wendy Williams again. And then the next thing I knew after that was she had this like on stage, on camera collapse. And then all of this news is coming out. But I've heard like through the grapevine for many years that there was an alcohol issue. And

then this dementia, it's very wild, but the photos to me look just from the small amount of clips that I've seen and the photos, in my opinion, she looks like she has aged so much. I don't know when the documentary was filmed. Like you said, it could have been going on for years. Today she looks like a completely different person and she looks very unwell. I would agree that there likely was some type of psychological break and spiraling. I know that whoever did the project, whoever did this documentary specifically or the docu-series, they're getting a little bit of backlash saying that it feels exploitive.

I saw that. I don't know if I agree with that because knowing what we know- There's two sides to that coin. Yeah. I do. I think on one hand, knowing what we know about Wilhel Wendy Williams, she has said always that she always wanted to be famous. She always wanted to be on TV.

She always wanted, she didn't even necessarily care about the money. She wanted the fame where I'm like the opposite. I want the money, not fame. But I have the money without the fame. Right. So on one hand, I'm like, if Wendy was fully healthy and able to make these decisions on her own. Would she have filmed the documentary?

And I do think she would because she wants the attention. She likes the fame on the other end. I would imagine, I would hope for the love of fucking God and all things holy that she got paid for this. It's interesting because when, remember what like, it's probably been getting close to two years when we got approached to do a documentary, the way they pay is for archive. What does that mean? So like anything that you provide like old family footage, like photos, anything that

they can like put as... Have you ever watched a documentary and you see like old family videos and photos and stuff like pop up? Yes, okay. That's what they are paying for They're not paying you an appearance fee to be on the documentary or to guys or to film it because in their mind It might skew the documentary one way or the other based off of monetary incentive. So they only- Are you joking? No, I'm not joking.

Literally ask Kristen. I'm not kidding. No, let me Google this because- Kristen, type into the chat and tell Kale. Kristen says accurate. They pay for- But I Googled it and it said, in some cases, compensation can be monetary, but it also can take the form of other considerations such as access to resources or equipment.

Compensation for documentary subject is often subject to negotiation between the filmmaker and the subject, and there is no standard amount or method of compensation. So basically it depends on the deal that you get. But a lot of times it's not paid where, for example, for you or for me, we did episodic rates for reality TV shows. Yeah. And I would imagine for a movie, you would get paid X amount for your role in whatever movie it is.

For my book, some books get advances, not so much anymore, and royalties. I have always wanted to do a docu-series, specifically like a short one, maybe like three, four episodes. And I would never do it without being paid an actual amount. So with documentary... Maybe calling it docu-series though, because that was the caveat or the nuance. I don't know even which word would fit for a teen mom. It's considered a docu-series. So that's why they were able to do things the way they did them.

Yeah, so that's different than a documentary. You will get paid for a documentary and you can put, just from what I was told, you can put a price tag on, let's say I had like old family photos that I was willing to surrender to a documentary. I could say these photos have this value to me and then they will negotiate that part of it if they want to use that for the documentary.

So yes, you will get paid in a monetary way, but it just looks very different than what you and I are used to being paid from reality TV. They don't pay that way. That is so interesting to me. Well, for all intents and purposes, I hope that Wendy Williams got paid. There was one scene where her life manager, is what I'm going to call him, DJ Boof, gave her a stack of, it was like $15,000. And she just kind of had it laying around. And it was because she doesn't have access to her funds

because the guardian who is nobody in the family, the judge ruled that nobody in the family could be her guardian has frozen all of her funds at Wells Fargo. That was proven to be true in the docu-series. So I thought that was, how did she get the 15,000 if she doesn't have access to her money? So she must've been paid outside of that somehow,

some way, unless it was given to her. But I can't imagine that people are just giving her- Can't make $15,000 cash. Yeah. That's crazy. So are you saying that Wells Fargo froze the fund, like any funds that she had in her bank account because of the court order?

Because of the order that the family needed to be removed from her care and that they were overspending and things of that nature, basically. Which I've, we've talked about this before. I love the fact that it's somebody outside of the family. And I think it takes the pressure off of that entire situation that it's an outsider that's managing it. So they argued, and there was a professional on there that said that basically that goes against everything that typical courts want.

They typically want someone in the family if they can get someone in the family, being as though everyone in Wendy Williams' family was willing to take on that. They were trying to argue that it couldn't be them when they were capable and willing. So I do feel like there's, I agree with you in some cases, I wouldn't want someone in my family to take on things like that. I would want someone like you, Kristin. I think Kristin is named in my will right now where she'll handle the funds. The kids would basically have to be like, Hey, I want this amount of money for school. I want this amount of money for whatever. I want this amount of money for whatever."

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bathroom which bar staff took notice of. The bartender, the only female bartender at the time, asked her to leave the bathroom but she was allowed a few minutes to change her tampon. When asked to leave again a few minutes later she became irritated, removed her tampon from her body and threw it at her. Security personnel at the nightclub assisted in removing her, but she allegedly kicked him in the genitals, yanked a portion of his hair out of his head before she left. Savannah PD responded to the call before the call from an alternate location. And then it says that they alerted police that there was an incident at the nightclub. She denied the allegations at first before admitting to throwing the tampon at the bartender. And she said that the actions against the security guard was in self-defense.

So there's several issues I have here. We have a lot of issues that are being addressed. and she said that the actions against the security guard was in self-defense. So there's several issues I have here. Number one being I don't care who you are, you don't throw a used hand, that's so dis, like what if he, no, I don't even need to get into the what ifs or what you could have or what that could do.

Absolutely vile. The second thing that would piss me off is my name being attached to that article. So if I was Justin Bieber or Hailey Bieber, I would be livid and I would be paying money to have my fucking name or have the SEO. That article will be pushed so far down for the simple fact, not because I don't want my people to read that, but I don't want to be attached to that fucking article. That's what's so crazy. And I know that this has happened to you before.

They put their names on these articles to get the clicks. That's why their names are on there. They wouldn't get the same amount of clicks. It wouldn't trend nothing if their names weren't attached. But in their position, at what point do you actually take steps in these cases? Like to remove yourself from that, right? Like how for something like this, that's this vile, I mean, I guess after everyone, by the time it hits the media, it's far too late, right?

So at what point do you decide, okay, I need to take steps to have this removed or pushed down or like how does that, at what point do you decide that? Or do they rather just like, well, another day in the fucking media? I would. I mean, I think at some point you do kind of get to that point where it's like, actually, this happened to me last night. I go to bed and my phone lights up, my room's pitch black, and it's like Google alerts. And it's something that I was attached to that I didn't want to be attached to, but it was anyway. And I just laid there and cried in the bed because I was like, at what point does it

stop? Like at what point does it get old? And I think that you eventually get to a point, even though I cried last night, you eventually get to a point where you're just like, you know what, fuck it because they're going to do whatever they're going to do. And I'm just like, you know what, fuck it, because they're gonna do whatever they're gonna do. And I'm just gonna stay steadfast doing what I'm doing. So there's nothing I can do to control whatever narrative, whatever anybody says.

And I'm certain the Hailey Bieber's of the world, Justin Bieber's of the world probably have the mentality of we can't control what everybody's saying. I mean, hell, based off of the news clips that I've seen of blind items that they have been attached to recently, I don't know if I would want to be attached to the throne tampon or the other stuff that they have been attached to regarding Haley Bieber allegedly cheating on Justin and having an affair for the last year. Oh, I didn't see that one.

Yeah. There's blind items everywhere saying that they're getting divorced, that they're actually separated, that she's been spotted with a billionaire. Yeah, a lot of stuff. But the tampon, the used tampon, I'm telling you right now, this is my public service announcement. If anybody felt brave enough to throw fucking used tampon on me, I'm going to beat your ass. No, because if somebody threw a used tampon on me, you're getting your ass whooped and that is that is self defense. Well, spitting on someone is like a felony, right? So I would imagine a used tampon is

also a felony, because it's a bodily fluid. I was about I was about to ask you, I wonder what the charge actually is. Like what, what is she facing? I know it said that she was to appear in court, I think like April 10 or something. This charge typically is spitting, but it says it can involve throwing or discharging any human bodily fluid. This charge is a class one. I think it's a one.

It looks like an L, like a lowercase L. Class one felony, meaning it's punishable by possible prison sentence. The maximum penalty a defendant can receive upon conviction is three and a half years in prison and $10,000 in fines. What would go through somebody's mind to pull a tampon out and throw it on someone? Clearly she wasn't sober. Not excusing behavior.

She could not have been in her right mind. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that this was like a very drunken situation and probably got pissed off because she was being made to get out of the bathroom. Who knows what the fuck she was actually doing in the bathroom. Disgusted. I can just tell you right now, if I don't have a child that would be wearing a fucking tampon, but if I don't care how old my kid was,

if they threw a dirty tampon on somebody, I'm gonna whoop your ass from wherever you are back home. My daughter better never. She better fucking never. This is your warning. I wanna bring things back to last week again, because we talked about motherhood and Kelly Osborne's comments about how there was no adjustment to motherhood. And Blake Lively did

an interview about motherhood and her and Ryan Reynolds just had another baby fairly recently. And she talks about how, well, first she says that she's experienced every single emotion in the human spectrum of emotions and then some, the greatest highs and the greatest fears, the lows, all of it. And so, so what I feel in my body is everything. But she goes on to talk about how she was at the OBGYN with her first born and her doctor had given her this warning. She said that once you become a mom, the highs in life will be higher than before and the lows will be lower. And I thought that was really interesting because when we talked about Kelly Osborne saying that there was no adjustment, this is kind of what we were talking about too, was like, you can't even say that on just like a regular average day.

It's not even about the adjustment and the day-to-day responsibilities, but the feelings within your body. And even circling this back to the Natalie Holloway situation where her parents instinctively knew that she wasn't here. You cannot tell me that there's no adjustment period because the first time you feel things differently after becoming a mom, you feel them. I don't know if this was the same for you when you had Isaac, but just the birth process alone and who you are after that, then when you didn't have a child Earth side is two completely different people in my opinion. I mean, even on the flip side of that, of missing who you were sometimes on occasions,

you miss who you used to be, you miss being able to pick up and go, you miss, you know, so there are, there's, there's grieving in that too, but there's also, so that's an adjustment. But also, I mean, I cried on Isaac's first birthday in my little one bedroom apartment. And I remember my, the twins, my cousins, one of them was like, you didn't have to give a speech. And I was just like, in my heart, I was just like, I just felt that moment of Isaac turning one and all that we had been through in that first year of his life was so, there were so many highs and lows.

And without being a mother, those highs and lows wouldn't have been what they were. So yeah, I could have moved out on my own and had a one bedroom apartment, but the extremes of, you know, becoming a single mom and moving into my first apartment was not comparable to have been able to do it as just as a single mom and moving into my first apartment was not comparable to have been able to do it as just as a single person with no children.

The adjustment comment, which is why I said, what was it last week when we talked about this, that maybe it came out the wrong way and she meant something else because there is no way that anyone who has become a mother would say logically that there was no adjustment. Actually the book that I'm reading right now, it's about, if anyone's wondering what I'm reading right now, it's The Perfect Child. The person in the book, there's a social worker and a play therapist and one of them in the book, there's like a social worker and a play therapist. And one of them in the book says the conflicting emotions that you'll feel about your own child and conflicting is true because like I just said, you're grieving the process, you're this or that.

You know, you could have your child could frustrate you to the ends of the day. You know what I mean? And then you still love them when they fall asleep and you forget all about it. And so yeah, I think to your point and I won't harp on it anymore, but I think that Kelly Osborne's comments are very, they have to be misunderstood or misspoke, misspoken because it's very misleading. So if anyone is a young mom and is looking to Kelly Osborne about motherhood, maybe take that specific comment with a grain of salt, because I don't think that that could be true for virtually anyone. My nanny told me when I was pregnant because Will and I lived with her through my pregnancy.

She said that motherhood is going to be the hardest but most rewarding thing that you ever go through. The times that you're going to be heartbroken over your child, the times that you're going to be happy, the times you're going to be sad, those are the highest highs and the lowest lows that you will go through in your life. And she also told me that it's the craziest thing that motherhood is such a hard journey to walk. And she said that she's convinced that your mom brain forgets all of the things like what you were just saying. They wreak havoc and then they go to bed and you love them

so much and they wake up and it's like you forgot it. Same concept. I believe that's why people keep having children because they, you know, it's like a flash in time when you have a baby. And then it's like all those things were so hard and now it's getting easier, now it's getting easier and then the next baby comes. It's like, I forgot about... How many times have you heard a mom say, I forgot about that period of time with my first child? Or- Lincoln would not leave my side for the first two and a half years of his entire life.

I remember thinking how hard it was because Javi and I couldn't have time together. We could only have time separate. Getting a babysitter was hard in those first two and a half years. And I remember like, oh, sleeping in my bed. Like those things were so, so fucking hard at the time. And now looking back since I'm eight years removed from it, I'm like, oh, that was a piece of cake. So that's, I mean, then I continued to have children. You continue to continue to continue to have children. Yeah. If you guys have kids like I do, I have so many that it's impossible to go to the physical

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My kids loved it. They'll still talk about it to this day. Really? That makes me really upset based off of what I read because it says, the US says to reconsider travel to Jamaica, Jamaica disagrees. Jamaican officials are pushing back against the US Department of State travel advisory for the island, which was reissued in January due to crime and medical services. The country remains at a level three, which encourages people to reconsider travel just one level away from the most severe warning.

Oh. It says the State Department claimed that the Jamaican local authorities do a poor job of responding to serious crimes, robberies, assaults, and more. Sexual assaults occur frequently, including at all inclusive resorts. The statement says, adding that Jamaica has one of the highest homicide rates in the Western hemisphere. Oh. Yeah.

It says the country's level three designation has been in place since 2022. Jamaican officials have warned that while there are areas in Jamaica that certainly do report a high risk for crime, tourists do not often experience that firsthand. Overall the crime rate against visitors to Jamaica remains extremely low. First of all, how did I not know that they were a level three on travel advisories since 2022, but I have been regularly looking for places to go and visit? Because they're not advertising this. So first of all, I took the kids to Jamaica and I want to say Lux was born in 2017, so

I took the kids to Jamaica in 2018. So we haven't been there for five or six years. Elijah's parents go to Jamaica every year, every single year. They were just there not that long ago. So they don't advertise. Listen to this statistic. Jamaica experienced 83 murders during the first month of 2024.

But is that of tourists or is that of their own people? Not that it makes it okay, but it's not gonna deter people. People murder each other every day in America. I really don't know. It says the country heavily relies on tourism, which is accounted for more than 30% of the country's economic output prior to the pandemic. That's really interesting to me. And during the pandemic, it says that Jamaica had a level four travel advisory due to the high levels of the vid. So what is that? But I never hear of travel advisory. Like, Javi emailed me and said certain countries not allowing you to go to their countries if your passport is expiring in

six months, which- Oh, I heard that. See, I never heard of that until recently. And I've been traveling with the kids since their whole fucking lives. So I literally was like, you just told me that now. See, I never heard of that until recently. And I've been traveling with the kids since their whole fucking lives. So I literally was like, you just told me that now. Like, I don't that's news to me. Like, why didn't we know that sooner? And he was like, why is it my job? Why is it my job to tell you? But I say all that to say, like, first of all, why? I'm sure

that was the first time he's ever heard of that. And two, because we didn't have that conversation when he just took Lincoln to the Bahamas, which was still within like six to seven months. And then two, when there was travel advisories to other countries, unless there was like a huge thing going on, like for example, when, you know, in the middle with Gaza and Israel, I didn't know that there would be a travel advisory to say Egypt or something. And so the only reason why I thought to look it up was because of everything else going on. And so I would have never known that there was a Jamaica advisory. Never know.

They don't advertise it. So you could look it up, but I don't think they're advertising it that way. Listen, we are just becoming like a plethora of knowledge over here on Coffee Combo's podcast. Plethora. But the fact that it was quoted that there was concern for assault occurring frequently, including at all-inclusive resorts, and that was robberies, assaults, and more serious crimes. How is that happening on like at all inclusive resorts? I mean, maybe I am just jaded a little bit to think, okay, I'm going to this all inclusive resort. It's very safe as long as I don't leave. I've always kind of had that mentality and would never leave property

if I was going somewhere. Oh, see, I love to leave the property. I actually took Isaac and left the property in Jamaica. Him and I did a mom Sunday in Jamaica. I love that you're so adventurous. That's just not me. So that's why we need to travel with you and then you can take the boys and do the adventure. Imagine. Okay. I have to tell you something that I have been sucked into for close to like the last 72 hours. Okay, let's hear it.

What do we think about Kristin Cavallari dating someone who's 24 years old? Um, you know, I wish that I could say that it's not a big deal because I'm also with someone who's six years younger than me, but I think it's weird. And tell me why you think it's weird. You know what, because she has kids. That's why I find it to be weird. So we are talking about the Montana boy, boy. I didn't even know who they were. On TikTok. They do all of these videos. They're super cringy, but I just like keep watching them so that I can cringe on my couch by myself. Interestingly enough, I hope I don't get in

trouble for saying this, but interestingly enough, one of the guys... Trouble by who? My hairstylist. One of the guys in the video is my hairstylist sister's ex-boyfriend. He is good friends with Kristin Cavallari's now boyfriend. Okay. I just don't understand 37 years old, I think she is, has children, being with somebody who is 24, who is video maker on TikTok, not saying that there's anything wrong

with being a video maker on TikTok. I love the creators on TikTok because I love watching them. But what would they really have in common? Okay. So I know we're going to get, people are going to be like, I'm with, you know, so and so, and you know, it works out for us. And you know, Elijah and I, six years apart, and I had children and he was 24 when I met him or 23, 24, something like that.

It was a smaller gap. So I am being a hypocrite. We'll call a spade a spade. However, when I think of large gaps between people, like the, so Kristin Cavallari is 37. 37 is 24. So we're talking 13 years. To me, that would make more sense if it was like 34 and 47.

You know, where there's more life experience for the younger person to have gone through more substance there. I do feel like him being 24 years old, he basically just graduated college if he went. I was just about to say like you're six years like post high school. Right. And so, I mean,, same could be said for Elijah, but so but Elijah is also just gritty and rough around the edges. He was never sheltered and all of those things like he's lived. Elijah lived in Hawaii for years, Virginia in the army, like, there was more to him, I feel than I than a 24 year old that makes TikToks. I don't know anything outside of

that. Does he have did he have a career? Does he have a career outside ofs. I don't know anything outside of that. Did he have a career? Does he have a career outside of TikTok? I don't know about that, but based off of the amount of like hangouts that he must be doing with his guy friends that are creating these TikToks with him, he couldn't be doing much outside of TikTok. And then as I'm like scrolling, see another video of Montana boys pop up and Kristin is in the TikTok with them and people were talking about how was she their supervisor for the night because there is such a, it is so awkward. And listen, if it works for her, it works for her.

Not going to judge while I'm judging. What could you have in common? Look at all of the career success that she has had, the children that she has. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. I just had an idea. Kristin Cavallari has successful businesses and has really propelled herself into other

directions outside of Laguna Beach, the hills, whatever show she was on. And I have had this conversation with Kristin. We are millennials. We are no longer gaining audiences. Our audience, my audience alone, we are not attracting younger people because they cannot relate to us. We are older. We're about to, you know, we're thirties, going to go into our forties at some point, right?

Like we're going to be fucking grandparents sooner than these people. You get what I'm saying? We're in our forties. I'm potentially able to be a grandmother. So wow. What if this is just a publicity stunt to gain a younger audience or to get the girlfriends or the girls who are watching the Montana boys to look at her brands, look at her, you know, success, look at her books, look at all of those. Like, what if this is just a publicity stunt on her end to gain the following and or the business from this younger generation? and or the business from this younger generation? That's a theory, but I have another theory.

Because of the level of success, her being 37, having her children, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that she's probably not gonna have any more kids. So I'm just wondering if at this point, what she's looking for is very different than what she was once looking for. And what if he's just like a good time

and she's in a phase of her life where she just wants to have a good time. And if she connects with him like on an emotional level, then maybe she's just in it for a good time. She does not connect with him on an emotional level, maybe a sexual level. Maybe he brings that aside of her that she hasn't experienced in a long time, but he's closer in age to her 11 year old than she is. Her and him are 13 years apart and her 11 year old child is closer in age to him. Listen, don't even get me started about kids and ages to their parents because my dad is 54 years old. I can't go older than like, comfortably, I can't go older than like, 42 years old, because I just feel too close to my dad. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's just like a weird thing. But then to think to have like an 11-year-old that would be closer in age to your boyfriend than? I could literally be her younger brother, her kid's older brother. That just feels weird. And like I said, this wouldn't be as weird to me, and I know that sounds crazy, if she was in her 40s or 50s and he was 13 years younger

because there's more life experience there and I feel like there could be more in common. But I mean, most 24-year year olds still live with their parents. I was about to say that was my next point and then we can move on to foul play. But in a situation like this, what do parents say? Like to their 24 year old who is coming with, I'm not gonna say no baggage

because I think we all have baggage in life, right? Like whether that be emotional baggage, whatever. He's not coming with kids. I am assuming that he's not coming with anything other than just 24-year-old dick. What would his parents say? You're getting tied up with somebody who has media following them crazy. They have three children. They have these businesses. They have an ex-hus husband. I'm just telling you, if that was my son, I would ask him what in the fuck he was thinking.

Well, that's why I'm thinking, on one hand, I'm like, as a parent, are they looking at this as like a business and growth opportunity? Like, how could his parents be okay with that? I'm with you. Like as a parent, I can't imagine them being like, oh yeah, this is a great idea. You know what I mean? I mean, think about one of your boys. How would you feel if they were with a Christian Cavalier

of the world with that age gap? I mean, there's a less age gap and I've had kids and I've been divorced and Elijah, I think I don't know this for sure. I've not asked. I've just said like, I'm sure your family didn't think that was ideal. You know what I mean? And I don't need an answer. I don't know this for sure. I've not asked. I just said like, I'm sure your family didn't think that was ideal. You know what I mean? And I don't need an answer. I don't

want to know. But I know with a six year age gap and kids and you know, the things the difference I've said, I'm sure this was not what your family envisioned for you. And I think this wasn't on your bingo card. Absolutely the fuck not. They were like, Oh, they weren't like, Oh, Elijah is going to move back from Hawaii, divorced and get with someone who has four kids and is also divorced and on TV, you know? So I can't imagine that that was on anyone's bingo card. So same sort of situation. But maybe they're looking at it from a standpoint of like, maybe this publicity stunt will get them in the media. Like maybe this is because I can't,

to me, no other thing makes sense. I will be interested to see how this holds out. If you guys follow the Montana boys on TikTok, I need to know how cringe you think that their videos are because I, and I post them on my own Instagram because they're so cringe. I want everybody else to cringe with me. I've never seen any videos of theirs except for the one with Kristin that they just did. So and on that note, foul play foul play. My dad has stage four pancreatic cancer.

We drive three hours one way for him to get his treatments every two weeks. The chemo really messes with his bowels like normal. We were done and heading back home one time and we stopped at a Jack in the box. We don't have them where we live and got some food. As I'm pulling into the drive-through, my dad literally jumped out of the car saying he's shitting.

He runs inside and I keep going to order food. Mind you, there's cops out front dealing with an altercation going on. This goes into play soon. I'm ordering food and he's texting me saying it's bad. He went in his pants, blah, blah. I get to the window and he texts me saying I'm coming out with no pants on. There's cops out side. This is public indecency. I look at the window and there is a million cops out front. What can we do? The sweet little girl went into the bathroom and escorted my pantsless dad through the jack-in-the-box kitchen to the back door of my car. Moral of the story is there's still

kind people in the world. Jack-in-the-box is hopefully sanitary. I got our food and cancer fucking sucks. Love you ladies. Number one, just want to say we are praying for your dad with stage four pancreatic cancer Number two, I will not eat it a jack-in-the-box And this is why if you can serve me an egg roll all the way to like a breakfast Biscuit that's too much shit on a menu and too diverse for me. I'm also shitting my pants I feel like I've been to a jack-in- in the Box, but I also don't know for sure. Also how fucking, I mean, yes, it's public indecency, but I feel like in this situation,

what do you do? I would have let him walk out pantsless. And if the cop said something, I would say he is leaving cancer treatments. Like, fuck you. And they would have got more bad press than if they would have actually taken him down and charged him and said this and that in the third, it would have been like, you're a bad cop for that. At what point is it acceptable for your dingling to be out? I believe if you shit yourself,

you shouldn't have to put shit pants back on to go back out to your vehicle, right? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Like your wangs out. But here's the thing to that would be like, it's public indecency, but it's also a health hazard because then you could be dripping bodily fluids around. So it's like, yeah, it could happen when they're on their body, but would you rather get charged with two things or one?

I also want to know, and maybe you can answer this question for me because you've probably done it If you shit your pants in public and you like get it on you, what are you using to clean it off because? Dry toilet paper is not gonna get like Ship articles off no clue. No clue. Like what do you do? I know that you have been over on the side of the road, shit yourself. Like what do you do to clean it up? I carry sanitary wipes for that reason. I also carry regular baby wipes now and toilet paper in my vehicle.

So that's where I'm at. Another thing that moms do, I just need to say this, once you become a mom, you will never not carry wipes. I don't care how old your kid is. No, literally. I would send them to my kids' school if I could so that they could use them, but none of them will poop at school anyway. You will buy wipes for the rest of your life once you become a mom. Yes.

Next foul play. I was working until about 10 PM on Saturday and I knew I was going home to some shit because I was already getting Snapchat updates from my friend who was over at our house with her husband. By the time I get home, both grown ass men were trashed, slurring words, stumbling, etc. Em's husband walks, stumbles over to me and insisted I give him a hug. All right, sure, maybe. I hug him and then he started to talk about my tits and how they were perfect in front of him. Yikes. I laughed it off and tried to walk away and he ended up trying to grope me and Em intervened, sat him back down at the counter. As Em and I were trying to process the last few minutes, her husband then begins to vomit all over my countertop. I quickly handed her

cleaning supplies and trash can and immediately knew where this was headed with my husband. So I walked him into the bathroom. I left him there to check on him and her man when I came back to check on my husband. He was laying down in the bathroom covered in his own vomit and piss. Yes, he peed himself and refused to get up to let me help him. Long story short, we got our men cleaned up and put to bed. Em's husband slept on the couch and we were all still good friends to this day. Em and I had a long talk about how marriage

isn't like sunshine and rainbows. She's been married for less than a year and sometimes our grown ass men act like toddlers. We still make fun of our husbands to this day and Em's husband did formally apologize to me for attempting to assault me while blackout drunk. But I definitely do keep track of the amount of bourbon they drink while at our house now. Love the podcast. Hope this story makes y'all laugh as it does for me now looking back on it. All I can tell you is I feel like I would not be able to have that person in

my home again if they did that. And it sucks because it's one of those things that's like a one time thing most likely, but you still just like don't. Because of the chaos that ensued, you're like, I really don't wanna experience this again. And at what point do you sit these men down and have an intervention to say, this is what you did, this is what you did, and this is what we're not doing?

From now on, men can go out of the house and entertain themselves somewhere else where I'm not responsible for. I'm just going to tell you if I was in though, if they were married for like a year under a year and my man was wasted and comfortable enough to like come on to somebody that he knows like in their home, I wouldn't trust him to drink anywhere. This is true. Yeah.

I am already sensitive to the alcohol things, especially alcohol, the results of what alcohol caused. I don't typically like to be around people who over drink in general, even if there's no bodily fluids that come out, just because I'm sensitive to that stuff. So I'm just not going to involve myself at all. For me, this would be like, you guys need to go do this somewhere else and I'm not your designated driver. Get an Uber and I want no parts. I want no parts. I feel like I'm just in a phase of life that I'm too old to be dealing with somebody pissing and shitting and vomiting on themselves because they've been drinking bourbon.

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