Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Life In Our 30s

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

EP241: Here we go agaaaain! Why do the exes think they can tell us what we can and cannot say about our OWN lives? Lindsie and Kail share the latest in their co-parenting struggles. Lindsie speculates it might have something to do with romantic relationships. Kail doesnt appreciate the inconsistency in attitude.  Lindsie also brings up sex in your 30s. How is it different? What makes it different? And do you believe in the idea that love conquers all? For Foul Play - poopy pants and sweet PETTY revenge! Thank you to our sponsors! Chime: Get started at chime.com/convos Kiwico: Get 50% off your first month with code COFFEE at kiwico.com Visa: Anyone can change the game Wooga: Download June’s Journey today! Available on Android and iOS mobile devices, and on PC through Facebook Games

I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you This is coffee convos with kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels kale That does not interest me whatsoever I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship family and life in the public eye I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's kale and Lindsay Hello, everyone. I love that voice. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing well You know most of the time when I get on here. I have had an unwell

Time but I feel in a much better place than I was last week when we recorded I was rather heated. So I I feel a lot more calm today. Good. I'm glad to hear it I'm always happy to hear that. I always we love good news This morning was my kids first day of school First of all first days of school like did your kids get first-day jitters? I they were all nervous They were all yeah, all three of them creed Obviously is too young to fully understand what's happening. He was not a happy camper when I dropped him off, but The three older ones were very nervous. So with that many children

Mm-hmm first day of school like okay Do you go school supply shopping for your kids before school starts? Like what is the process of that look like also are they required to lay their clothes out the night before like how do you? structure that chaos So I do I do go grocery not grocery I do go school supply shopping like well in advance like weeks in advance As soon as I get the list I will get everything typically on Amazon and Online because I'm not taking all my kids and I also there's just a lot

So I like to have the list on my phone and then get the stuff on my computer so that I can kind of just like look back and forth I don't have to like constantly go back and check And then the night before school everyone has to pick out their outfits and lay it out Showers we were up a little bit later than I anticipated last night because Lux had to get his hair braided and I Wanted it to be nice and fresh for today. So I didn't want to get it to I didn't want it to be too many days old And then they got their haircuts in the morning Lux got braids at night. They laid their outfits out They showered they did all of that and we were under actually we were under the impression that Isaac started at 7 15

So he was panicking thinking that he was late, but I had checked my email and they actually said he doesn't have to be There until 755 so So when I woke up I had my alarm set he was already up panicking thinking that he was late And I was like or that he was gonna be late. He didn't even want to eat breakfast or anything I'm like Isaac. It's okay. Like you're fine. You're not gonna be late the school emailed and said 755 so we're good to go And everyone everyone everything went smoothly until creed saw link get out of the car That's when look creed lost to shit. He was very upset and didn't want to see Lincoln leave. Oh

Bless his heart. Wait, I've got to go back to you Isaac freaking out about the school time because I can specifically remember when I was in high school And I started driving myself that I would like occasionally have these tardies And I thought, you know, like my parents weren't finding out about this well, they did they they definitely found out about it and Todd was like if you can't get your ass out of the bed Then you are going to have your driving privileges revoked and like to a high school or to tell them that they're gonna have their driving privileges Revoked and like you have to show up in the freaking escalade with your elementary school siblings and the carpool line

If you're high school, it's not the best time and so I would freak out I would like go to bed. I was such an early go-to-bed person in high school like literally kill when I say early I would go to bed like eight thirty nine o'clock same I did not like staying up on school nights because I had such a hard time getting up in the morning It was so bad and so and you know, I don't know at what point like I stopped really caring about my Personal appearance in high school, but like for a long period of time I needed to like get up and straighten my hair curl my hair or whatever So I would go to bed early and I would find myself waking up at like freaking four o'clock in the morning

And I had convinced myself and this happened like a lot of times I'd convinced myself that I had overslept and I would full-blown like be rushing around in my bathroom Trying to get ready get my school clothes on and then realize it's four o'clock in the morning. Oh my gosh Talk about pissed off 4 a.m. Like What what in the hell? Why why did you I'm so confused? I know other people did this as well Like I'm not the only person that did this and I need everybody to write it and tell me that you also had this experience

Like you didn't like once or twice in my whole life Have you never like overslept or like thought that you overslept and then you got up and rushed around and then you're like wait Like I'm really not late. I just have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Yeah. Oh a hundred percent, but not like Several times. It's only happens like once or twice. Okay, Kiehl sue me about it. Okay Like I saw the picture of your kids It's just it just looks like mass chaos. I'm like first of all, how do you even buy that many pairs of shoes like? That's the hardest part is like making sure that everyone has Like everything that they need and every year I do two pairs of shoes because typically that they'll switch out like halfway through the year

But it's just it is pure chaos, but this morning went so smoothly There was no tears except for you know when link got out of the car and Creed was upset, but so Crazy no last night. I was like, how am I? Going to do everything that I need to do The next day. Do you ever like stress out about that when you know, like you have a busy day coming up and yeah You're just like, okay I just need to get it to that day because I'm actually stressing out about all the things that I know that I'm gonna need to do So I might as well go ahead and start doing them

Well, I went to the Clemson game at Mercedes Benz in Atlanta last night Clemson pulled out a dub so go Tigers Um, great time really really good time. I was gonna take Jackson to the game and Will shut that down. He was like school night and so the game didn't start until eight o'clock and I'm like Mmm, I get it. But also like it's just really not that big of a deal to me Also, you've taken him to a Braves game and he said well, yeah, but that was playoff So it's different. So it's not different. Okay. I'm like the time doesn't change The fact that it's the same time. I mean, it's if it was a school night regardless

It doesn't matter whether it was the boy Wait, I have to tell you this thing so last week whenever I was just like going off about will had to text him for something and And obviously like kitty gang group chats like popping off, right? So who knows? There's probably like a spy in there. Oh, they're sure there's spies in there. I'm not no way for us to like really know but He started voice memo-ing me Instead of typing it out who did so that I couldn't screenshot it. You shot it. Oh

Fuck. Yeah, Chris used to do that to me too. Really? Yeah, cuz he figured it out Like obviously I would have them but like you can't screenshot them and post them. Oh, yeah So this is what this is what I was dealing with Just like wait what okay, and then there's just other really funny thing too I was like you need to this mind you this is in group text with Kristen and so she's probably Just like I need to Immediately exit this chat But also I need to know all the information in this chat because I'm the person that's dealing with emails

I'm like will you need to respond timely to the emails and he's like Literally, I need to see if I can find the text because it was just like so wildly dumb wildly dumb Kristen's probably like, okay. Um, oh wait, okay. I told him I said I have extended grace on the timeline to rectify these issues I can't tell you guys the rest but Will goes I'm in the process of responding to Kristen's email while taking a shit if you leave me the fuck alone Maybe I can get things done. He said that. Yeah, wait. He was taking a shit. Yeah, and I'm like, so you're answering emails on the shitter

Like co-parenting emails on the shitter like at the point that You felt that it was only important to respond to emails that have been sitting in your inbox for days And you thought about it when you were taking a shit tells me everything that I need to know, right? You're like, mm-hmm I'm alarmed. Yeah, very alarmed by that Also wanted to tell you that I had therapy last week per year ago Did you go to therapy last week? I didn't because I was on vacation. Oh, that's right Well, obviously my therapy was definitely surrounding co-parenting because that was, you know, the task at hand and

Basically, just sometimes you feel like your therapist is Just like your friend that you can confide in and they're just gonna give you like great advice And you know for a fact, they're not gonna steer you wrong. Yes, because that's how I feel too So as I'm telling all of this story she tells me that I just need to have intentional focus and and genuine intent whenever I'm engaging with my ex-husband and When conversations seem like they are turning into things that we shouldn't be discussing that it's okay for me to say Hey, like that's not appropriate and we aren't gonna discuss this

So that we can really focus on the things that matter because I think sometimes when we're trying to co-parent with someone that We once were romantically involved with It's really hard to separate Underlying feelings Not that I have romantic feelings towards him, but at one point we did So I feel like it's sometimes hard to just think linear and be like, okay We are just like strictly business strictly focusing on our kid I think that's why it's so hard. It's gonna be hard for a long time. Actually, it's gonna be

But once you get there, you'll get there. I mean, it'll all be worth it But do you feel like you you have arrived there with any of your kid's dads? I mean, I feel like Joe and Javi. Yeah, but do you Occasionally is it always pretty smooth at this point or do you feel like you occasionally still have engagements where you're like, okay? I'm engaging with this person in this way because I was romantically involved with him at some point No, I don't think that I have that with Joe or Javi at this point. Like Javi and I's issues like right now We're back to email only. He's a complete dick. He sent me a really nasty text message while I was on vacation Because I spoke highly of his family

On the podcast, but anyway Wait, you got cussed out because of coffee combos. Mm-hmm Why are we always getting cussed out about coffee combos from our ex-husbands? I don't know because I spoke highly of his family and he told me don't ever talk about his family. I'm not allowed I'm he said I'm being fake about How close we are and how good they are and I'm not allowed to talk about his mom and don't ever ask his sister for anything And it's like these are all adults and you don't get to dictate what they do and they don't do and I highly highly highly doubt that they have any idea that you're acting like a complete fucking moron and acting like this and

They're able to make their own decisions. So you may not like me, but they're gonna be nice to me And they're nice to my kids. So I'm not and I told I just I just blocked his number Like I didn't even I didn't even respond. I didn't put a thumbs up. I didn't do any of that. But when it comes to Lincoln, I like I'm so far beyond like engaging in the bullshit at this point But with Chris, they're still bullshit. So I don't know Well, I think as far as like the ex-husbands and stuff are concerned because that seems to be like our biggest issue that we both collectively face that This is also our lives, right?

And so you don't get to dictate what we choose to talk about when we choose to talk about it when it applies And that's what I'm that's and that's been my whole argument. So he'll tell me oh for the millionth time stop talking about me And I'm like for the millionth time. This is my life for the millionth time This has been my life for the past five years like I'm gonna talk about something as I see fit and as it applies to the conversation And I don't know how many times I can say that literally you don't get to dig I understand that your family understand that your mom I don't reach out to your parents for anything other than what I'm saying hi to them at games and stuff And yeah, they do give my kids hugs and yeah, they are grandma and he was really pissed off about it

I could read you the text actually I'll post it and this is the thing like when you when he sends me shit like that It makes me want to be spiteful because I'm like, okay. Now you've pissed me off. Well because there is no two-way thinking sometimes I feel like I Pretty much look at the situation as a whole and I'm like, okay. Well if this was happening to me I probably would feel a type away about it, but also I know what I signed up for I just don't I don't understand why? Do they think they get to dictate what we do because I don't care about what they do Do you ever dream of starting something game-changing then visa can help make it happen? Maybe it's creating and selling your own customized kicks for cats or

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He's probably trying to figure out how to spell sue good I can't I can't I got accused of creating a fake narrative But it's like literally hobby every single person at football and every single person at basketball sees us interact They see your parents say hi to my children They see your sister say hi to us and that's where it's at. It's not like we're Hanging out outside of this, but when I do see them they are good to my kids He says And I literally just blocked him. I did not respond

For the one million time stop talking about my family stop creating this fake narrative that my family is a part of your life You have a boyfriend. Keep me and my family out of your podcast out of your life period Don't ask Lydia's don't ask Lydia to do you favors boundaries? Stop living off this narrative that we're all so close We are not the same. I think he meant live your life, but he put love your life Yeah, he definitely meant live figure your shit out We are email only after this message never ever fucking talk about my mom and that's grandma You don't know half the shit. I'm sick of this fucking narrative You try to portray these kids are going to be traumatized and I'm disgusted that you think it's a laughing matter

I will make sure my son comes out on top. Well, I mean, aren't you also making sure that your son comes out on top? Um, so what's crazy is that he sent me that message. I was sitting on the couch at our Airbnb and Lincoln's behind me and he tilted his head and he read it before I saw it because my phone was unlocked and open Oh, God He saw the first message and I immediately started crying because Javi has this way of being able to hurt me in other ways that Chris and Joe can't and I do think that part of it is because We were married and so when Javi says things like this, I I get really emotional and I was so upset and he was like Why is my dad being mean to you and I looked at him and I said, you know, this is adult stuff

I said, don't worry about it. I said, but I want you to know that no matter what I said I love your grandparents. I said and I love your Nina, which is his Lydia I said they've always been good to me I said and I have nothing but respect and I'm thankful for them and and that's all I need you to know And he was like, okay. And then I said, don't worry about what your dad said. Just go play. It's just so crazy But I'm going to I would never I wouldn't ever be like, oh, we're so close We hang out all the time like it's very different. They're saying hi to my kids at a game They say hi to me at a game and we don't sit together, but we do, you know, say hi. How are you?

very very cordial You know things like that and and the other thing is like last literally two weeks ago Javi was like I'm always going to be here for you if you need anything He called me for the tea about before I even said it on the podcast with the cop that happened with the state trooper Because I had gone to that game and there was only like a few minutes left on that Sunday He called me and was like, hey, like, you know, you never miss games Like I just want to make sure you are right and so it's always like I never know when it's not okay And when it is okay, does that make sense? Well, I always

Say this to Will over the past year if you're going to be an asshole to me Be an asshole all the time just be a consistent asshole because at least I know what to expect and see that's the thing I don't know what to expect because like I said, sometimes he's like, I'm always gonna be here for you Like as friends like whatever we're cool We'll joke around at football and stuff and then other times It's like I want to be in a relationship and you're gonna ruin it and it's like by how? Okay, so that was I was going to speculate because I feel like this also applies max husband That I think that when they try to romantically get involved with someone

Mm-hmm that that's when we receive this type of backlash. Yeah, but I'm not I haven't I don't care Like I would never I'm what I meant. I think your girls are Tuning in to what we are saying and then feeling a type of way about it and it's like literally ma'am Like no offense if I wanted your man, I would just have to sneeze Like that's that's all that would happen So like don't get it twisted keep tuning in like that's great for you But I wouldn't have to do any hard work to get him. No 100% I don't want him 100% I gave him away to the streets I gave him away to the streets

so I think that that's probably what happens is or and Javi situation he has two baby moms So I'm just wondering if there's like also conflict like when you're saying certain things like is it causing conflict somewhere else? His parents and his sister being friendly to us at games in no way shape or form is Us being close and me portraying a false narrative and me that should never Affect any type of relationship whether it's with Lauren or anybody else Me saying that like my kids look to him look to his mom as you know grandma that's grandma like or

Them saying hi and her giving my kids hugs and kisses and things like that that has it's just it should never like that To me you're creating the false narrative by texting me that because Everyone sees it literally everyone's everyone knows how we interact so you're you're I feel like maybe he feels his Maybe he is involved with someone and they forced his hand to send that message. I don't know That seems like to me. I don't like he felt like he had to do that to like prove a point to be like, okay This is what I'm doing. You know, I Could see that happening. Well, I never had malicious intent or ill intent or I was never Trying to start shit like that's and I was never I was speaking highly of them

And the reason I'm saying this is because so many people sent me messages from last week's episode about how Do I think that maybe Will was not allowing Jackson to have his phone at his house so that maybe he could Try to like show his attorney girlfriend That I call will's phone and it's like bro like that's the only way I can get in touch with my son while he's with you Mm-hmm. Well, that's the other thing the other baby dad. I have won't he won't answer the phone when I call Well, you know, he wants to hold me to this standard of like, okay

You call it, you know, seven or whatever last night I put timer on my phone so that I could specifically call at that time try to call Jackson's phone No answer because he's taken it Text will and I'm like 701 Where is he? 701 Lindsay and he's like he's doing math homework and I'm like, okay I'm glad that he's like doing math homework or whatever, but like also, it's my time So the math homework is gonna have to you know, wait and then still didn't get a call

So I'm like it's 702 now and it's like why do we have to get to that petty point of like why does it have to be that way? But back to what I was saying people were saying maybe he was trying to show his Girlfriend that we don't even know exist for sure Maybe he was trying to show her that like I call his phone and I text his phone But it's always about Jackson and I'm always calling for Jackson always like when I call Literally and if I ever call like when we were on vacation Lincoln's phone wasn't charging for whatever reason and he wanted to call his dad. I Face-timed him which I never really do and then he didn't answer so I literally texted him like it's Lincoln like it's for Lincoln

It's not for me. I don't want to Face-time you literally like stop acting like I'm trying to Face-time you to flirt with you Like first of all, I look like a troll right now Secondly, I'm just trying to get in contact with my son and see his face and make sure everything is okay But as I was talking to my therapist She said, you know when you put yourself in a position that you are co-parenting Whether that be with your ex-husband You know former partner, whatever that looks like if you just solely focus on The one thing that you will always share which in my case is Jackson

Then that should be the only focus and the only conversation Because I was very jaded in the fact that I thought after some time that will and I would be able to be friends because We have been so close to each other for 12 years of our life. I thought, you know, yeah, like falling out of loves one thing and Fighting because you're no longer in love and like just didn't work out and you both are carrying different emotions You know without whether it be anger or whatever phase of grief that you're going through I thought once we got past that we would be able to be friends But what I've realized is like that's just not in the cards

Yeah, I'm thinking the same way for hobby and myself. It's just that we don't even need to be friends Doesn't it? It's really sad. It's really fucking sad because when we're friends, it's so good and when you're not it's so bad It's so bad But part of that is me accepting that I have to take Responsibility and accountability for my role in this and part of that is you know, I I keep going back and I give reactions sometimes That there was when we were email only last time we weren't we were email only for like three Four months and then the hobby had reached out to me almost like I think we're in a good place now to go back to texting and have those boundaries And things like that. And so I thought that's where we were at and then he flipped the script

I always feel like a yo-yo for whatever reason like it's never It's never consistently consistent like one day. I might wake up and I just get like a different version of Will and then the next day I wake up and it's like, okay Now he's morphed into like this other version and I don't know what I'm gonna get each day Which is hard because I try to stay consistently consistent like yeah, I'm sure he's probably like Lindsay is such a bitch But at the same time like you put yourself in the situation because I react to your actions, so Trying to teach someone that every action has a reaction and you don't get to determine the way someone reacts to your action

Is like a really hard thing and it's so frustrating To deal with someone that does not understand that concept. Yeah, no, I completely agree with that and then also People just post in all online the picture of the dating app Photos and I'm just like at what point wait, I didn't see them. What I didn't see them You didn't see my ex-husband and my Ford truck. No, can you send it to me, please? Yeah, I'll send it to you. I will definitely send it to you. Okay, but can we just Where's Kristen is she where she's on producer mode so she can't nobody she can't speak. Okay People keep messaging me like weird stuff and like what do you mean? I want to say it. Should I say it?

Yeah, I mean dick pics or what? No, they just keep messaging me and telling me that this person is made up Who's made up the girlfriend? I mean, I low-key kind of believe it is too, but then Jackson says that her name's Tonya Tonya And I was like who's Tonya though. Wait, so then who's Brit Brit? We don't know like no one No one knows and then someone was like I think that he intentionally Text you that like he's never slipped and like accidentally texted me before so like maybe he purposely did that to get a reaction And a lot of people were like, you know when people have narcissistic tendencies

They're looking for a reaction. So the less reaction you give them The better off you're gonna be and so that's something that I'm learning of like Not reacting to absolutely everything. Well, that's hard. Yeah, it's so fucking hard It's so hard because sometimes you just want to like Either kill them with kindness or you want to be a smart ass back and at the end of the day Any type of reaction is what they're looking for. It doesn't matter They're not actually getting the message through and you're not getting the message across even if it feels like you are They just want the reaction. Yes

Mm-hmm, and I'm like, why are you looking for a reaction for me? Like am I that entertaining like evidently? So you do have some pretty funny like you're very witty and you have some very funny comebacks. So I'm just saying We're back to school I just got a Kiwi Co crate delivered to my house It's a monthly crate full of science and art projects perfect for kids of all ages You guys know I have four kids Nowhere near close in age and there's a crate for all of them

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home goods and I just like love going there and looking at all of their fall shit and like buying things that I Legitimately like just do not need but I'm a sucker for Little the core that has like silhouette pumpkins on it. What do you mean silhouette pumpkins? They're kind of like abstract looking pumpkins and it's not just like I'll have to take pictures of these things and like show you guys what this looks like, but I almost called suburban dad his name He was like you just like to get shit with pumpkins on it Like you just love to get shit with pumpkins on it And I did I bought like these cute little pillows for my front porch that I could decorate. I bought these ray done towels

With like a little cute like abstract pumpkins on them. I bought this wreath that I definitely didn't need for my front porch I actually want to get it. I just I just like to go and buy shit like for actual no real reason Like I probably have so much fall shit upstairs and my storage that I could just like pull out and reuse But I'm the type of person that likes to collect things over time So I'll like put out some of my old stuff and then like mix new stuff in it and then I'll get rid of things that I no longer want that I maybe had last year that I don't want to use this year It's a real big deal when you're talking about fall decorating around my house because it's like my favorite thing to do But it made me think do people decorate mostly for fall or do people decorate like more Halloween?

I would say Fall probably because there's some people that are like super super into Halloween Haven't you ever like gone past a house and you're like, okay, those people are like big Halloween people Well, so my favorite came over yesterday and he was like, I just want to let you know I'm gonna probably be do like really spooky decorations in the house on the house. And I was like that's good I was like my kids will love that I said I don't do holidays and he's like what I I don't do holidays and he's like well, you're just that big of a grinch. You don't do any holidays and I was like Yeah, pretty much

Like so my kids love your house for Halloween. So stop talking Stop talking. No, literally in my old neighborhood Jackson's bedroom faced someone else's house Mm-hmm. And this person was a freak azoid and they would go out on Halloween and Dress up. It's like a scary person and like scare all the kids in the neighborhood And this is like a grown adult that like has no kids Just going out and scaring all the neighborhood kids So like I always thought that was like a little bit strange But every year when they would decorate for Halloween, he would make these like scary

Posters that if they'll he would like somehow turn a light on and it would like make it look so super spooky And so it faced Jackson's bedroom. So can you imagine being like a three-year-old? No little boy and your bedroom and looking out your window and seeing just like Scary shit. No, that's terrifying. What is going on? I'm like helter skelter over there or like Freddie gruger or whatever. I'm like, what the what the actual freak like Halloween truly is just not my favorite I don't love celebrating Halloween. I love Celebrating just spending time together and getting dressed up and like that's the extent of Halloween

So I definitely decorate more in my house for like more just like fall style stuff, but then this led me to the fact that pumpkin spice lattes are now out Mm-hmm and suburban dad needed to let me know that he got one this morning And I swear he's more of a girl than I am. Well, I have to admit that I do love pumpkin spice I did get one from Duncan instead of Starbucks I'm not I'm very I'm just like weird about my Starbucks and it's just hit or miss But also Duncan is hit or miss and the one that I got yesterday was awful. It was so bad Um, but I'm back on coffee. Like I'm like I quit it for probably, I don't know six months

I'm back on coffee. That's so weird. I tried, you know, I tried to quit it and I didn't even mean to and now I'm just like Loving it. Do you guys want to know what I officially quit? What did you coke? Mm-hmm? We need to throw a party like literally like I have officially quit coke and I am going to tell you My sister has said this as well. I think that my dad said it as well after being sick with COVID. It never tasted the same Oh, I feel like so that happened for so many things for me, especially like fast food like McDonald's and stuff I used to you guys know. I love McDonald's and I it has never tasted the same. It's so weird It's so weird and so I then just would try to like make coke happen and just

Keep trying it and I'm like, you know what eventually I'm gonna get my taste buds back for this like I really just love it so much and then I had a sprite one day for whatever reason I think I had taken Jackson to get a sprite and I was like, I'll just get a sprite too And that was all she wrote and I'm literally on the sprite game and it's weird because I thought about it There's no caffeine in sprite back in high school If we got a soft drink like my parents made us get sprite And so now I just feel like I'm kind of like reliving my high school day. No, I can't Sprite tastes like liquid sugar to me. It does. Yeah, it's just so sweet to me and there's no caffeine in it. So

What is the purpose? See, I think it has such a good little bite. Oh, no, it's so good, honey No, listen, so these pumpkin spice lattes I need to know if everybody is like pumpkin spice latte or not because I have never Had a pumpkin spice latte, but I don't like pumpkin. So I'm thinking Oh, they never don't even bother if you don't like pumpkin don't bother. I love pumpkin. I love pumpkin pie I love Pumpkin fucking muffins pumpkin croissants like whatever they can do in pumpkin. I love it

But why like what is it about pumpkin? It reminds me of my nana, which is my great-grandmother So you associate the taste with a memory? Yes. Got it. Okay. Well for all of you pumpkin spice lovers Whether it be Starbucks or Duncan, I hope that you enjoyed enjoyed yours this morning as much as suburban dad Enjoyed telling me about his Wait before we move on. Can I like can I play this video that creed did for nana for natalie? Yep. Oh my god. It was so fucking cute. He's talking so much and I'm so proud. So I want to play it really quick Can you say hi nana? Say I'm going to school

Cool. See you soon. See you soon. I love you He's doing so good. I know That's so cute. He says cool Cool. I'm going to school. Cool. Oh my god. I know. Um, okay. So what were we gonna say next? Don't you miss um Like with all your other kids that outgrew The phase of like saying words wrong. Yeah, I never correct them and I hate and I feel like we've had this conversation but like

They're gonna learn it eventually so I'm not correcting them because it's so fucking cute It's so cute and I'm just like They're only gonna be that small for so long and Jackson's still sometimes when he tries to say like a very adult word He'll mispronounce it and I just let it ride. Oh same. Lincoln said so. What did Lincoln say? Lincoln called something Completely the wrong name, but like he knew what he was talking It was I want to say it was yesterday or the day before and we both I think it was me and that and we both kind of just laughed and we didn't correct him because I'm like, he'll figure it out

I don't remember what it was though Um, yeah, same thing like we just let it rock because they'll figure it out. Yeah, like I'm not I don't have the soul to be telling him You know, honey, you're out here trying so hard And you just used a you know, really big word and you botched it so bad But I'm gonna let it ride because that was so cute and also like I'm just I'm a proud mom. Okay Um, well since we're talking about our kids and how they were made, you know, like having sex and shit How they were made I want to talk about All relationship sex and like how different

sexes in your 30s versus like teens and even mid 20s well for first starters teens in 20s I mean, I didn't have I told y'all already I haven't had I didn't have an orgasm until I was 21 So like for years I was not having sex where I was getting off and then probably Most of my 20s I didn't really focus on getting my like I wasn't getting off most of the time

So now in my 30s one, I care less I guess about what I look like and two I'm getting off more often. If not every time I feel like it's probably become because you have become more comfortable within yourself and so that just changes the game in itself or maybe you just care about Less things than you did when you were younger. I mean, I'm still concerned about my boobs flopping all over the place like so like Just like what the fuck do I look like but also

I don't know my partner now. I really trust and I feel like Makes it easier to like have good sex because I don't I know that he doesn't care how crazy I look Okay, well, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most men Or don't probably even the women that you've been having sex with are not thinking about your titties Flapjackin around Flapjackin Like I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that but sex in your 30s is so different than

Sex in your late teens. I didn't have sex really in my teens, but like 20s Is so very different and I don't know If it's because of the relationship that I'm in and the connection there is just very different Or the fact that I just Feel like in a much better place with myself and like more confident in myself that like that also changes the game some I would venture out to say that majority of men Sexist sex to them and it's a physical

Connection I think women connect with sex physically, but also emotionally right But I think when you're in a relationship with someone and two people Love each other pretty equally and they are Both physically connecting but also emotionally connecting that that also changes the entire sex game Oh a hundred percent a hundred percent. I agree with that. Do you feel like you can tell the difference between Making love And fucking yes Yes, okay, so then tell me

What the differences are the difference is that they're Well, one of my baby dads fucked me for five years um figuratively and literally and um, you know, my ex-husband was more of like a More passionate intimate slow situation. Okay Took his time. We're just not going to talk about joe because that was so long ago. He mean him didn't have sex. That was a an immaculate conception stop

Because I don't consider him my ex. It's so weird like I look at him. I'm like I was never like that was a lifetime ago That was like a different even lifetime um I don't that didn't that wasn't a thing so it's funny because Kristen and I were talking about this like I don't know. We were just like talking shit on our morning catch up while she was either puking or shitting I don't know and We were like, I wonder what kale will say

About like what making love is and kristin was like she's gonna say it's slow I did I say that I'm pretty sure I did say that she knows me so fucking well. It's scary That's so funny, but like I don't necessarily It doesn't have to be slow. It doesn't have to be slow. You're right I don't think that it has to be slow now like I think that at the point that you start jackrabbit like that Just immediately change the mood to fucking right, but like I don't know to me making love is

The emotional connection that's going on that you both can feel at the time that you're having sex Like are you looking deep in each other's eyes or no wait? Who was it that was having sex with someone and was like they just oh, I know exactly who it is But I can't say it out loud Um, because people would know her but she was like I was having sex with this guy And I mean it was good and everything, but I opened my eyes and he was glaring into my eyes And at that point it was just like I knew that this was never gonna happen again Why? Well, I don't know who this is wait. I just read a meme or something yesterday and it was like

Um point of view You're the guy you're hooking up with who's going down on you. He glances up and you wave. I don't know why I did that You do this? No, I didn't do that But the girl said that she like she was waved she waved at him by Like literally he was going down on her and then she waved when they made eye contact Okay, yeah, he should have immediately have stopped then And then they both should have exited the room immediately

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Do you think that Now in your 30s, you have had experience with Various different types of relationships. Absolutely. So I feel like you're versed enough to answer this question I'm scared. Do you think that in Relationships that love can conquer all no, why love is just not enough sometimes um You can love someone so hard

But it's kind of like I don't want to compare it to this but this is like the first thing that comes to mind Is like when you love someone so much and you know, they love you back, but say they have um an addiction or Um or something like that and they don't want to help themselves or or debt for example, they have this crazy debt You're trying to help them pay it off Um, you can't want something more for someone than they want it for themselves So of course, I'm thinking of the worst things debt addiction and things like that Um, sometimes there's just no

No, you can't get through it because you can't do it for them and it'll keep bringing up the same Does that make sense or am I crazy? No, it does make total sense. I think that in relationships as you get older Um, I think that my answer would have looked very different in my early 20s Like if you love them enough Then you can get through anything and as much as I believe that love can carry you through a lot of hard situations Yes, I don't believe that it's the end all be all I think that You can love someone to the greatest ability that you have to love them But if other things are off

That might not necessarily carry that relationship through. I agree that I 100% agree with Um, I don't I'm trying to think of other examples that are not so extreme Um, but I guess that's like the biggest those are like the biggest things for me Well, there's a couple of things that I can think of. Um, I could give examples. Um, Let's say you you mentioned finances. I think that that is I think I read somewhere actually that it's like the number one cause of divorce Oh, wow Is you know financial things whether it be financial struggle or just

financial disagreement Um, I think that when you go through things with a partner that you're in love with And maybe there's like a betrayal of some kind Or whatever like is love going to get you through that in some cases I believe that it can but in some cases I believe when damage starts happening to a relationship that Sometimes it gets past the point of like you can't love someone through that stuff. I agree. I have a question for you though Oh god, do you

I feel like it's kind of related Do you think that you could cheat on someone and but actually still like love them and or be in love with them? I do because I think I have mixed feelings on it. This is probably like unpopular opinion But let's just say That I think if you feel like that is your person Then most people are going to say when I say this well, if you do feel like that, then why would you put yourself in a situation? To where you could lose that but I sometimes think that when people are making these decision decisions they are making these decisions

out of possible fear of Like okay, I feel like this is my person and I am so in love with them But ultimately I feel like it's not going to work and I think sometimes that's where cheating situations happen Okay, okay. I could get behind that. I definitely It's so tricky. I have mixed feelings on it. Like I think and I don't think I could cheat on someone that I love But I do think that people can cheat on people that they love. Does that make sense? Like I don't think I'm one of those people if I cheat on someone I feel like

For me, it's I probably am confused. I don't know how I feel things like that but I And part of me feels like it is a little bit different for men even though it's not fair to have that double standard I do think that men just think differently. They're wired differently um and so Maybe some men can cheat on someone they love because I don't know I have mixed feelings on it Again because I also think goes back to me saying that

Not that it excuses a man for doing the shady shit that they do. I sound like a major manhater um, but I think that if they are just Physically having sex with someone and there's no emotional connection there that in their mind that they aren't emotionally cheating So it's okay. Like that's how they justify that right like they're right, right, right, right? You know, like it was just physical. So there was no it's not that bad Feelings there whatsoever. Like I wasn't emotionally connecting with that person And it's like, okay, that's great But I am a firm believer that when you sexually engage with someone you're creating soul ties

Mmm. That's a whole other situation. Do you agree with that? Yes, I do tell me why actually this guy that I I think I talked about him either here or baby mommas, but um I definitely think that we would be together if he didn't live in another state. Um, because that's the type of Soul tie that I feel like we created when we did the nasty Oh, so y'all were doing the nasty regularly. No one time what one time But I was like no like but we had like a thing So there was like a we had a thing and then it was like then he had a girlfriend and then when I was single

and then I had a boyfriend when he was single And then finally we came together and we were both single and whatever and we did what we did But he lived it was only while he came to visit, but like we had a thing Um, but and he was the one that told me about soul ties not me So I don't know what bitch he was with but he told me about it and I was like, oh Okay, no, I fully believe that that if you And and some of it I think comes along with With maturity also like I don't think that that's probably the mindset when people are out

Just screwing around and you know doing whatever and it's just like reckless and You know hooking up to hook up and I'm the type of person that I believe in Dating to Mary and I shouldn't be having sex with someone that You have no intentions with yes, like that's just my mindset. That doesn't make somebody else's mindset wrong But I believe that when you do that you are creating Soul ties with another person and so you should be very careful About who you're engaging with in that way if you don't want your soul connected that person agreed

um, have to tell you that um, I just want to talk about something that uh has been like a little bit difficult I feel like when you are I feel like this whole episode should just be called like 30s Like what's it like to be in your 30s? Because according to my son. I'm old, but he still loves me. Thank god That's what he told my five-year-old said. He's like She's old, but we but I love you and I'm like wow, I'm I'm glad that you love me because I'm old I appreciate that a lot. Thank you so much. Do I want him to wipe my butt?

Thank you so much for me being special to you I'm like logs. I don't need anyone to wipe my butt right now stop so I feel like when you are dating or in or in a relationship In your 30s and some some of this could be skewed a little bit because I've been married before um, and I think that when you get out of a marriage and Things were so toxic and then you went through You know a toxic divorce process and then you're co-parenting and it feels very toxic that Some of my thinking might be a little bit

um Jaded just because of my situation But at 30 years old and dating and being in a relationship I feel like the things that I am looking for and the boundaries that I Am willing to set and live by look so very different and Because of therapy also I feel like I want to vet every part of The process and ask all the right questions because when I got married to will

We didn't have financial conversations or like we didn't have conversations about you know um Do you like to have sex in the morning or at night or like do you I mean just like simple stuff that I think really does matter in the grand scheme of things um We never had any of those hard conversations and I feel like I'm doing all of that with suburban dad And it makes it hard because it creates conflict. I feel like When you're having these hard conversations and you're choosing to have these hard conversations And you're two individuals who

Are established on their own have their own things Have their own ways of doing things. It makes it very hard to share And then you have children of your own and so You know the way that suburban dad does things with his kids Looks differently than the way I do things with Jackson and it doesn't make it wrong or um a way that like we can't blend and do it but also Like it's a process, you know, it's not just cut and dry and so easy to just be like, oh, yeah Like we're going to be together and we love each other and like none of this is going to be work

I think that I was in a honeymoon phase for probably five or six months And now we're having all the hard conversations and It just makes it not feel so good every single day, but at the same time it feels Healthy even though there's conflict. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes And I I definitely feel like as we get older those hard conversations come sooner Um, because they're I don't want to say more important, but when you've kind of been through some shit You've been through relationships. You've kind of been burst enough in relationships that

You don't want to find out things too late. Yes That's exactly how I feel and I think also when you have children that are involved It changes the entire game like there's all these things that have to be Figured out and I think that when you Do no better you do better, right? And so if you're not asking the hard questions And sometimes it's creating conflict because you're asking the hard questions and you're Doing all of the hard things it makes it not feel so good every single day And so a lot of people have been asking like why aren't you sharing this or like?

Why aren't you sharing that or why haven't we seen a full face picture of him or You know, whatever and it's not that I don't want to share those things because just last week I was talking about how you know, I am totally ready to do the hard launch and like share all of these things but at the same time Like going through the hard conversations And doing all of that every single day Sometimes I just want to actually be in my life and get through those moments And I don't want to fake anything and I think that people sometimes get so invested in what we call these instagram relationships

And when you're doing all the hard work behind the scenes It makes it really hard to share every aspect When you're putting in truly the hard work And I don't know like I I want to do Everything like I have such a desire to do everything the right way because I feel like I did so many things the wrong way Actually just saw Leah had posted Something about like she was a defending her relationship with her boyfriend or her fiance

And it's like Shit like that that it's like are we prepared for that? You know, like that's one of those things like that we would take with the hard launch or like putting the relationship out there Or you know what I mean? I think that you have to be in a place that you know that People are going to say whatever they want to say regardless if they are committed to like disliking whatever They see and that's their commitment You're not going to change that and I think that you have to be comfortable

When you start sharing that people are going to have differing opinions and that's okay It does make it a little scary though knowing that you Basically feel like you are being held accountable To a whole group of people who follow you that are going to follow every aspect of your relationship The good the bad the ugly the disappointments Um, you know, and there's unfortunately people on social media that are literally looking for Your downfall and then you've got your cheerleaders, but it still makes it difficult across the board. Yeah, absolutely. It does Okay, you guys do you ever get tired of a good who done it because you'll love june's journey

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So I started fighting get new episodes of trust me on podcast one spotify apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts I think that we don't have time for anything else. I wanted to play This tiktok, but I don't think that we have time for it Um, but we do have time for foul play. Okay. Well, we can do the tiktok next time because it's I feel like um evergreen It's not a timely. Yep. That's perfect. Do you want to read the foul play or do you want me to read it? No, I like when you read them because I can't follow. Okay add First of all, I just wanted to say how much I love this podcast Lindsay kale and all of the fuckery that comes along with it with that said I would love to hear y'all's reaction to my foul play

So I too am in the club with kale when I have to shit. I have to shit I used to work about 45 minutes away from home My best friend and I would always have phone conversations while I was on my way to and from work I always thought about how it would really suck if I had to go to the bathroom on my drive since I'm so far from work or home Well, one day it happened. I was about 20 minutes away from home while I was on the phone with my friend Who's a gay male? So some things you just keep tears I all of a sudden got the urge to Oh my god, I all of a sudden got the urge like I had diarrhea

I got goosebumps stomach cramps and started sweating and began to think. Oh, no, it's coming Luckily within a few minutes that feeling subsided. Okay. Well, I'm gonna pause right there because it subsides and then it comes back with vengeance Um, I know from experience. Okay. So well now I'm about five minutes from home and all of a sudden the feeling hit again And now I'm stuck in traffic I'm being known to my friend while he's chatting up a storm about something else that I can't even concentrate on because all I can do is Focus on not shitting my pants in my car I roll my windows down and try to engage in the conversation to take my mind off shitting my pants telling myself I'm close to home and if I really have to I'll use the quick check bathroom

New York's version of wawa. Oh, that's nice Um, that's within distance. I could see past the traffic without even thinking diarrhea just comes pouring out of my butt And it's running down my leg All over my car. I lied to friend on the phone and tell him I'm home and have to go. I'm still about five minutes from my house I immediately hang up and call my husband who's home when he answers I judged it my pants and he said why what happened. So he probably thinks that he Thinking I just got scared or something, right? I then said no I literally just shit my pants and he started dying laughing

I started crying and then he tried to calm me down saying it's okay. It happens and to come home and get in the shower So I pull up at home. I live in an apartment building But of course the ups driver is at the front of my building delivering packages And I can't run past him because I smell like pure shit and have diarrhea running down my scrubs Luckily, they were black scrub bottoms So I have to run around my building and calls call my husband to open the back door I run up our stairs and tell my husband to stand away from the door. So he doesn't smell my shit as I run straight to the bathroom As I run into my bathroom

My husband already has the shower running in a garbage bag open for me to throw my script my shitty scrubs out He's such a keeper But of course I will never be able to live this down an hours after I finally cleaned everything up My husband starts laughing about it again. And now I'll never be able to live it down. But of course In good spirits. Oh my god. That's so horrible I told you the only time that I have ever shit myself was when I had Um, you were sick a virus I must have been like in second or third grade

And my mom went to like the bread store and was driving my grandmother's house and I shit myself in the backseat of her Honda And like That's the only time I think I've ever shit myself in my life But it was such a traumatic experience. Like I feel like once you've done that You never want to do that again Yeah, I mean I've done it as an adult and I never want to do it again But for some reason it keeps happening. So did it happen at all on your trip? No, I actually haven't shit myself in a long time So I'm feeling pretty good about that

I just I feel bad for for this lady because I think um, every person that's ever had a virus or you know, possible IBS, um They know what the goosebumps feeling feels like and the stomach cramps and when you start sweating and you have to take a Shit like you literally just have to go. Um, the only person that I know that Has issues like this could possibly be suburban dad and my ex-husband and Kale. So So basically I'm a man. Okay, got it. Basically pretty much everyone that I know Um Second foul play it says oh boy strap in for this one. I have some foul play

My ex and I split in late 2019 And it did not end well because I found out he was cheating when I had cervical cancer from hpv I dumped his ass and informed him I was moving out and started being and he started bringing home girls that wait Moving out and he started bringing home girls that night before I could even get packed up This was after he drained my bank account earlier that day. Let's just say went full on crazy I spent a whole day packing while purposely dehydrating myself Like my kidneys were hurting I peed in a cup when I could have poured it

I peed in a cup when I could and poured it down the vent I peeled back the carpet in his closet and put it on the floor I took some ghost peppers. I grew that summer and put them in a hot tub filter I knew it worked because the next day some random was crying in the backyard For the grand finale. I noticed the weather was going to be absolutely perfect I found some pot seeds and planted them in the back corner of the garden and reported it two weeks later He worked for the government and they did and it didn't end well for him I had to lose an organ and the ability to have children as well as my life savings. He could lose his job

To add insult to injury. I put him on a mailing list for Scientology Once they have your name, they will never leave you alone. I hope you found my story funny Feel free to share my revenge. Maybe don't mention my name though. I've literally never shared this with anyone Okay, I have a couple of things that I need to say about this. No, I I like it's funny, but it's not funny because I need to know where she came up with these ideas Okay, I need to go all the way back to like the first sentence. So Like hold on She said that he was cheating and gave her cervical cancer from HPV. So like

How did that just like turn into cancer? HPV can turn into cancer, but like that fast. No, it could have taken years Oh, okay. I mean, I think for everybody. It's different I think for some people it happens quicker and then for other people it could happen Over years and years and I think for some people you could have HPV But never have cervical cancer like I think there's like there's levels to it. Okay. That makes sense to me. Okay um The fact that he would have had to have known

This information that he had given her HPV And she dumped him and then he was bringing girls home Before she could even get packed up like that. Fuck him a next level of disrespect Like as if it wasn't already disrespectful enough like that's so disrespectful Fuck him. Um Draining someone's bank account after you literally give them HPV Fuck him. He's literally the spawn of satan dude. Like you're so foul, but then also Um, the fact that she purpose purposely dehydrated herself

So that her piss would be foul and then she poured it down vents and peeled back carpet Okay, so if you dehydrate yourself the pee is worse. Yeah, and it's like dark So it smells worse. I think so Got it. Okay, because I was wondering why you would purposely dehydrate yourself But okay, that makes sense now and then peeled back carpet on the floor Like where did all of these ideas come from like well, I need to know this is a movie She needs to be pissed off. I get being pissed off and like Rightfully, so have every right to be pissed off

but like the fact that like peeling back carpet and Dehydrating yourself and also taking ghost peppers and doing all this like weird shit You know the the best one to me really Is putting someone on a mailing list for Scientology Like that's probably my favorite one of all Honestly, they're all my favorite. I mean, I I don't know that I would ever do it I've never done anything like absolutely crazy except for break a laptop that I bought Um, but I mean if I buy it I can break it

I'm I don't know you literally gave her HPV and cancer you drained her bank account like Um, I don't feel bad for anything she did to you I want to know where she got the ideas because I feel like they're a little They're a little crazy. Yeah, but I want to know and like I don't know Write in and tell us like where you got these ideas because If you came up with them on your own, you're the best breakup friend to like exist. So Hit me an idea

Thanks so much Um, maybe I can pull some of these scams on a couple of people that I know Um outside of that and you know just being a scam Um, I hope that everybody has a very blessed and great week If you don't want it to be a blessed week make it be great And if you have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast on instagram Make sure you follow us over there And if you have not subscribed to our show you can find us on any podcast app and always first on podcast one

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