Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Life Updates & Foul Plays

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

CC 481: Kail is flying solo this week with updates on her upcoming surgery, tour preparations, and some reflections on where she’s at both personally and professionally. She addresses listener feedback, shares thoughts on parenting, relationships, and finding balance, while opening up about plans to reevaluate priorities moving forward.Plus, Kail reacts to a collection of outrageous Foul Play submissions, discusses a heartbreaking local tragedy that has impacted her community, and shares what she’s currently watching—including her growing interest in doing a future deep dive on Michael Jackson.For full videos head to patreon.com/kaillowry To send in your Foul Plays email us at [e-mail] you for checking out our sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by Better Help. Visit betterhealth.com/coffee today to get 10% off,This episode is brought to you by booking.com. Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today.RoBody: Find out if you’re covered for free at ro.com/coffeeconvosSkims: Shop our favorite bras and underwear at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.Rocket Money: Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at RocketMoney.com/COFFEECONVOSSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is coffee convoes with Kail Lowry and Lindsay Crissly. I really want you to be in your feels, Kail. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. It's been a wild week and it just keeps getting crazier. I also wasn't anticipating reporting today. Went to the EMT, this, not the EMT, B-E-N-T this morning, and set the date for my surgery for my tonsils. These babies are coming out, and I'm so excited. The doctor, can you guys hear that squeaking?

I'm really sorry, it's the chair. She saw my tonsils as they were today, which is not sick, not strep, not anything. And she was like, you have big tonsils on a regular day. So I can't even imagine what it would be like with strep. it is not more dangerous for an adult she said she does not know where that like rumor or those statistics came from she said it is um a rougher recovery but in terms of safety it is not my cat's eating my plants barn cat stop it stop stop it this is you're going to get sick that's what's going to happen you're going to get sick. Love you. Love you. Okay. So as I was saying,

she said she doesn't know where like she's heard people say that before. Adults have typically a rougher recovery. And outside of that, we're getting ready for a tour. My first tour date is coming up and I'm super excited and also nervous. And I do have a little spreadsheet for this. all my days were running together. I was planning to record tomorrow with my friend Zach. And then Alessandra texted me and was like, hey, babe, it's Wednesday. And I was like, oh, like I said, I wasn't even planning.

This was not part of the plan. Also, I would like to let you guys all know in advance that Lindsay will actually not be joining me on tour for any of the tour dates. For anyone who may have purchased tickets specifically for Lindsay and I together. I don't want you guys to get there and be surprised. And I do understand if you guys want to refund on those tickets. I do fully understand. Maybe check to see in the Facebook groups if anyone else wants to buy them for you before you ask for a refund. She was supposed to come to the Carolina shows. I think it was Durham, Raleigh, and Charleston. So I just

wanted to give you guys a heads up right there. And then I needed to ask you guys, slash let you guys know what the heck I found out. I have been seeing the word and hearing the word peptide all over the place. I went on Facebook on my public Facebook page and I asked what the fuck is a peptide because I don't know. And so a lot of people reached out to me and it says that peptides are short chains of amino acids, typically two to 50 linked to peptide bonds. This is not explaining anything to someone like me, I don't know what that. If I don't know what a peptide is, why the fuck would I know what a peptide bond is? Do you know what I'm saying? So think of amino acids as individual Lego bricks. A few snap together make a peptide. Okay, love that. While long complex change of the chains of them

fold into proteins. Peptides act as a crucial signaling molecules in your body. They have them for weight, skin, hair, tanning, et cetera. People are using them as a gLP one essentially. And, And I, if I'm being honest, the Lego brick situation, cool. Like that makes sense. You link them all together. That's like a peptide and the protein fold into that. But like outside of that, nothing is mathing for me. So that explanation actually doesn't help me.

I also dropped out of dental hygiene and had to go to dental assisting school, like a little certification program because I couldn't pass chemistry. So I'm thinking that peptides probably are not. not for me or for my brain because they're just, I'm not understanding. So I just wanted to clarify that. I also want you guys to know from the bottom of my heart that I am reading all of the reviews, the comments, the DMs for better or for worse. Okay, I'm seeing the horrible ones.

I'm seeing the good ones. I'm seeing the ones who are willing to ride this out with us. I see them. And I just want you guys to know that there's, not going unnoticed. I'm not trying to evade your questions. I'm not trying to ignore. I'm not sweeping things under the rug. There are certain things when it comes to legal. I cannot discuss them no matter how much I want to. And that's what the PR team is for. That's what lawyers are for. I cannot speak on them. It's literally not because I don't want to. So I just wanted to put that

out there for full transparency is that this is, this goes beyond like us just sweeping things under the rug and an Easter egging, right? Like, there are things that I can't even say without Lindsay here. Like, I literally can't. So I just want that to be known and heard. I also wanted to address one comment. And I don't know why this one specifically has nothing to do with Lindsay. It has nothing to do with Kristen. It has literally nothing to do with anyone but me. And I really wanted to address it because it's been under my skin since I read it. This woman said, which one is it, kale? You either have. one day a month without your kids or you're going on tour all summer and leaving your kids behind

or something like that. I don't know why that irked my soul so much, but I'm going to just explain for if you're listening if that one specific girl is listening. During the school year, maybe I wasn't clear. During the school year, I have one maybe day a month with no kids, with zero children. Over the summer, it is a little bit different because linking goes to his dads for the entire summer and then I do 50-50. with the other dads. My tour schedule is only when the kids are with their dads. So every single week that I have my children, I'm not touring, I'm not traveling, I am

home with my children. So for clarity, and to sum it all up and wrap it in a pretty bow, during the school year, it is one day, possibly per month with no children. So if you could just tone back the hate, I don't really understand where the hate was on that. Just context clues, maybe I thought you had. but apparently not. And so I just wanted to clarify that. Other than that, I really do appreciate the people who have wrought with us since the

beginning of time from 2017 until now through the ups, the downs, the Easter eggs, the bullshit, the all of the things. I think I'm in a point in my life right now where I want to do a full evaluation for not just where I stand in my personal life, but also in my professional life. And I want to scale back probably my cussing and also just, I don't want to talk about things on the podcast that all across the board, all the podcast, if I'm not going to tell the whole story. Like I want to, if I'm going to mention it, I'm going to talk about it. And if I'm not going to mention it, then we don't need to discuss it until I'm ready to talk

about it kind of thing. And so I am reading your comments and your reviews and I'm seeing that like, I don't know, we don't tell the full story or, you know, whatever that looks like. And I just want you guys to know that during this time, June, July, maybe August, I'm really going to take the time to like try to figure out like a full like rebrand for myself and just my professional life, like I said, and my my private life. I literally want to take this time over the next several months to a year to two years to really just like. like reevaluate and prioritize what's important to me. And so I say all that to say that I am reading all the things. And so with that being said, I'm going to move on. There are several foul plays that I could read that you guys have submitted.

And I think now would be a good time just because I'm by myself to read some of the foul plays and react to them only because we only get to read one a week. And there's so many people that write them in. And I want them all to have their time to shine. So I think that some of this episode could be kind of diving into that. I'm sure it'll spark another conversation. So the first foul play I have here is when my husband and I were dating, we both still lived at home.

What the fuck were we thinking? It was my 20th birthday and we were going to town full naked in my bedroom in the middle of the day with both my parents' home. My dad had this habit of knocking and opening the door literally 0.2 seconds later. Well, that happened and he got a full front row seat to his. youngest daughter being fucked, L.O. No hiding it. He screamed, closed the door, and told us to get dressed. Oh, and my grandpa's birthday was the next day. So after all, we had to pile into the truck and ride 45 minutes to a nursing home together, the most awkward car ride of my life.

Thankfully, it's never been brought up in the past 10 years since. Hope this gave you a good laugh. I would be mortified for an adult to walk in on me, not even just like an adult, like a peer. right? Like I'm talking like an elder, like a grandparent, an aunt, an uncle, a mom. That would be absolutely mortifying. The closest thing that's happened besides my own kids is one of my boyfriends in high school. His sister walked in on us in missionary. And that was like, and then I became best friends with her like way long after that, which is so fun. I wonder if she remembers that. Actually, she's coming to the Philly show and I might ask her to be honest. Like, do you remember that time you walked in on me and your.

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The next one is my ex-husband and brother-in-law were in a popular Baltimore band. One night at the show, things got unhinged. My brother-in-law started an affair with a woman working the bar and eventually left his family for her. That first night, I got into a physical confrontation with her after she started acting inappropriately towards my husband. I felt it was my place to defend my sister-in-law. So during band practice in our basement, I installed a baby monitor in this. ceiling tiles and called my sister-in-law to listen. When I heard my husband laughing at my brother-in-law's sexual stories, I ran downstairs, ripped the monitor out of the ceiling, and said, you all think

you're so cute. That's why we heard everything on the baby monitor. My husband then locked me in the laundry room to avoid further embarrassment. The band had to give me props for the creativity, though. Long story, the woman ended up losing her job over it. Moral of the story, a baby monitor has multiple uses. And that's from Jennifer in Pasadena, Maryland. that's actually really insane that I'm reading a book right now where the foster parents put a monitor near their fridge so their foster kid can't go get snacks in the middle of the night. Not remotely similar, but I just never thought to use a baby monitor. And I think I have PTSD from like just being on social media and people coming from my neck all the time

because I literally am always worried that someone's filming something and something is going to get twisted. a baby monitor to catch a cheater essentially is the most genius thing that I've ever heard of. I don't know who I would, where I would put one at this point. I don't have those types of concerns, but if I did, I will absolutely be using this trick in the future. So thank you, Jennifer from Pasadena. Okay. The year was 2010. Elliot was born in 2010.

My son was one year old, and his dad and I was. were extremely toxic, mentally, physically, verbally abusive. I completely shut down emotionally and was in a very dark place. Out of loneliness, I started talking to his brother who also, out of loneliness, I started talking to his brother who also happens to be my sister's baby dad. Okay, so hold on. I need to map this out. So we got, I'll draw a diagram. Okay, so we got this woman. So women, woman one, and man, two with a baby okay and then we have sister so woman two plus oh man one so then man two brother i started talking to his brother okay so we have sisters and then brothers my sister and him weren't together at the time still doesn't make it better i know i go to his apartment any

chance I got before work, after work, sneaking around at family gatherings, ballsy or just plain stupid, take your pick. It went on for about a year, a year, a year. One year before we called it quits. When my son was five, I told my sister, she was upset, told my son's dad, who called and cussed me out, but we were all grown from it. But we've all grown from it. My sister forgave me, his dad forgave me, and now we have an amazing co-parenting relationship. I married to the love of my life, have three beautiful girls, and my son is now 17. Holy shit. Could you imagine? Like, I'm just thinking about my sister and myself, and I have no sexual attraction whatsoever to my sister's husband, but essentially that's what

they're saying, right? It's like two sisters are with two brothers. And then this sister was had a baby with this one and then was messing with it. Y'all, listen, I'm not judging. I'm not judging. it's highly entertaining but I just don't like I don't think my sister's husband would do it for me right like I'm happy for them so glad that they have their their relationship their marriage their family I just don't know I mean whatever I'm not judging I'm glad that you guys all worked out I'm glad that you got remarried and you have your family and I'm so happy for you and if you're yeah your son would be 17 Elliott 16 so that makes sense not our third grade are trying to plan a play date, but it's really half-priced appetizers at frickin Applebee's.

Kids these days are just a different breed. Oh, my God. Actually, I screens outed something else. I'm going to talk about this with Becky. So yes, you're going to hear it on coffee combos, but I also want to discuss it with Becky because I think that Becky might have either similar or different opinion than me. Maybe not. I don't know.

but I read this and it said millennial parents are catching heat from every direction. Higher costs, less community, more pressure, more distractions, and somehow we're still showing up. Present at games, present at bedtime, present for the little moments that actually matter. And our generation is completely exhausted, but we're fighting hard to raise good humans. What's so interesting to me about this, though, is that how are we doing this? like I'm not just talking about my own situation. I'm thinking of like the general population. It's like we're barely getting by financially, everybody.

But we're still like, are we just not showing up to work? Like I don't know what's going. Like how are we making it possible? Do you know what I'm saying? It's just so fascinating to me because when I think of family, I really do think about like my family growing up, somebody was always willing to take me at some point, right? And my grandparents had a huge.

hand in raising me. And when I think about like my, my friend's childhoods, it was the same thing, like super close. When I talked to Ike about things, like he had, you know, he's the youngest of five siblings and then he has his parents, his grandparents, his aunts and uncles and things like that. And so in some ways, like, it's so true. Like, you know, I think all the ways it's so true that now grandparents don't want to be grandparents the way that our grandparents were. and I just wonder how we're making it happen the way that we are today. And when our parents were raising us or not raising us, was the cost of living just you just didn't complain about it?

Like, or is it every single year since the beginning of time? Like we all always complained about the cost of things, right? Like I guess what I'm saying is like, was it enough when we were growing up for a teacher's salary to live comfortably? or were they also saying that they were having a hard time? Does that make sense? I know I'm talking to myself, but maybe you guys could let me know in the comments or something like that.

Like, I don't really remember, but we were kids, so we don't know what the financial situation was for our parents and our grandparents at that time. So I just don't know if they also complained about it and we didn't know. When I've talked to people who I've grown up with about whether or not their parents, like, went to games and stuff, they have said no. And I know when I played lacrosse in high school, I only remember my mom, boy, know one of my games. And she didn't stay for the whole thing. Like, she literally left and she sat by herself and then she left.

And so, I mean, maybe parents really weren't showing up as much because they were working. And because of that, they were able to afford more. Like, I don't really know. I know for a fact, my mom specifically struggled my whole life. But I did, like, when I think back, my other friend's parents weren't. So I would just be interested to see what people thought. or what people think about that. Going back to the foul place,

let's see what else we have. All right. I was a teen mom. After having my son, I stayed at my mom's for a bit because I was just comfortable there. Anywho, a few weeks in, my friends invite me to eat

and try breaking the news easy. But my best friend just tells me straight up that my baby daddy texted her asking if she would sleep with him and he would pay her. Shake in my head, my bestie would never. Like technically we were still together.

we just had a baby. He hid from me that whole damn day. When I finally saw him face to face that evening, his excuse was that he did it to see if I still loved him just because I was staying at my mom's and not at home with him. Like, dude, really? I could have, I should have known from the moment. It was just toxic young love. I feel like that was like an excuse all the time growing up was like, oh, I just did it to see if you would react or I just, I just wanted to show you that your friend was a hoe and it's like, I don't think that's an excuse. So it's going to be a no for me, but also when your teenagers and your frontal lobe is not fully developed, like, what do we really expect, right? Like at the time, before I got pregnant with Elliot, and probably for most

of the pregnancy, like I really just wanted Joe's attention. I wanted Joe to be with me. I wanted, I thought this was forever. But then the nuance or the caveat. But I also, like as soon as I found out I was pregnant, was like, what if I don't want to be with him forever? When you're teenage, this is why teenagers don't need to be having sex and being in these full-blown, committed relationships, right? Like, I think it's one thing to, like, casually talk to someone, but like, if I could plan out my kids, like, high school and, like, early college years, I would not want them to focus. I mean, I think sometimes there are couples who stay together from a really young age and they really do have something healthy. strong that they can grow and evolve with and grow together. But I think other times, like, if I could plan out my kids like relationships with people, I would not want any of them to have

like a super committed relationship in high school or even like the early years of college. Like, I just feel like there's so much life to live. And there's so many things that I've done in my life while having kids that I don't know that will be possible for them, whether it's financial or whatever that looks like and I just want them to focus on like really living life traveling if they want to focusing on their career like the relationships will always come later if you want them to and I just I don't know like that's I mean obviously you can't control your kids you know every move but that's something that I would want my kids to really think about and I I do feel like I have so far we've

kind of all done a good job and by all I mean all parents and adults involved really just not putting a huge emphasis on relationships. I just wouldn't, I don't want my kids to have to experience those toxic relationships or like figuring out how to change each other's lives to maintain a relationship that may or may not live beyond, you know, someone graduating high school or going to college. Like it just, I don't know. I want them to do bigger things and not have to like tailor their lives to that because I've heard also stories of like people not going to certain colleges because of their

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The next one says, I work at a school district's central office. About a year ago, I'm unloading stuff at the dock at work. And literally right next to me are the superintendent, assistant superintendent, and like five principals wrapping up a meeting. My radio was on country music. Nothing crazy, just normal background noise. Well, as I'm walking inside, my car randomly connects to Bluetooth and starts blasting Spotify. My club days mix playlist fires up.

Make it rain by Travis Porter and it doesn't start at the beginning. It starts in the middle of the song on the line that says, knock yo pussy out this frame, bitch. By the time I ran back to the car, we had made it to. I make it rain, bitch. What's that shit you saying bitch? Blaring at full volume because apparently when my car connects to Bluetooth, it multiplies the volume by 20.

That always happens to me. Like if it's an audio book, if it's like a random song or if I'm playing TikToks, I feel like the car always picks up at like volume 35. It's so annoying. I acted like I forgot something and hijacked it out of that parking lot so fast. Refused to come back for a good 20 minutes. Nothing was ever said. time I see those principles, I go in the opposite direction. The superintendent's offices are

literally five doors down for mine so I can't avoid them. Thankfully, they've never acted like anything. Thankfully, they've never acted like anything happened. I now turn my radio and car completely off when unloading at work, lesson learned. I, you know what? Growing up, seeing teachers and principals and things out in public did feel like that scene out of mean girls, that's like, it's like seeing a teacher in, you know, it's like seeing a dog on high legs or whatever when, who is it? What's the guy? It's like seeing, seeing teachers out of school is like seeing a dog on its hind legs.

And Damon, was it Damien, Damien, Damian, Damian, Damian, when he says that line and growing up, that's how it felt. Like, you just never saw teachers out. And then like, now this generation, I feel like we see teachers out all the time. And I feel like it definitely humanizes them. And also being a mom now, I feel like it's humanized. But I feel like growing up, I don't even say that my mom would have been intimidated by teachers because it just feels like that was like, not that it's not.

So if anyone listening, if anyone is listening as a teacher, I'm not saying that you don't deserve to be put up on a pedestal. That's not what I'm saying. I just feel like now that I'm a mom, you're more humanized as teachers and administrators than when I was growing up. I think my mom was also intimidated to it. Maybe because it's like a real profession and my mom never had one. So maybe that's like where I thought like I felt like that.

I don't know. Just a thought. But that's actually really funny. I could not imagine that's kind of how I feel about like tour too. Like I'm going to go on tour and these people are going to see me completely out of how they know me. And then I don't want them to say anything to me about it. Like I kind of get that. It just feels like like this is like a piece.

of me but it's not like the whole thing like that music was like it's just something that you like it's like doesn't represent who you are you know what I mean so like I feel you on that um the next one I was getting it on with my boyfriend when I felt something off down below I had already used the bathroom that day and knew that shit was not solid he finished early and decided to finger me from behind just as I climaxed I had explosive diarrhea on his hand up his arm and all over his white tea like spin art First of all, some of you guys need to write books for the visuals, okay? The descriptions of some of these foul plays are so funny.

Like, diarrhea spin art, are you joking? He immediately threw up and we showered in separate showers. We're still together and expecting a baby in May. Guys really don't care if you shit on their hand. Yeah. I literally asked me, did I need help shitting in a cup for my, blood work and celiac test and all of that. And I'm like, no, get the fuck out. Like, they genuinely don't care. I had an old friend. This was years ago. And I think I'm far enough removed that it's

fine. I might have even talked about it before. But she said she was doing anal with her boyfriend at her dad's house. Like she lived with her dad at the time. And for whatever reason, I mean, it splattered all over the wall. So like, and they were together for a long time after that. So They're not together now, but I just wonder like men really don't care. Like, how did they get that way? Do you know what I mean? Like, what made men not care? Because if it was a woman, I wonder, like, do we care more or less?

Do, would we stay with someone if the roles were over? Like, if you just shove a finger up your man's butt, like, and they shit all over the place, like, are you staying? I'm just wondering. Like, how, like a raise of hands, would you stay if something like that were to occur to your man? Would you stay? Like, would you, I don't know, just wondering.

I'm just wondering. It could depend on the person. It could depend on the relationship. You might think back to an ex and be like, no, I wouldn't have stayed or you might be with the love of your life and be like, yeah, I'd stay with him through anything. Do you know what I mean? I've been really lucky. I've been really lucky that people have stayed with me through really foul shit.

So, no pun intended. Anyways, the next one says. And also congratulations. I'm sorry that I didn't read this before May. It's now June. I hope you had your baby. I hope you had a smooth delivery. I hope that you guys are living in newborn bliss because newborn is the best.

Anytime after newborn all the way up to one, probably not so fun. But congratulations on your baby. Okay. The next one says when I was 24, I lost my husband in a Hobart accident. It malfunctioned. An incoming cart hit him and killed him instantly. I am glad for him that it was quick. After saying goodbye at the hospital, I went home.

His family dropped off his car and under the seat was a secret phone that was still going off. Oh, hell. I answered it and had to tell a woman I'd never met that he had passed. That's when she informed me that she had been his girlfriend for the past three years. Shocked, doesn't even cover it. We had been married six years and had a five-year-old and a three-month-old. as I'm consoling this woman in her grief, she tells me that they had been trying to get pregnant for a year and she wished she was pregnant with his baby. Then had the nerve to ask me if she could still be in my five-year-old's life.

The foul part wasn't even the accident. It was all of that. I have literal chills. Like my hair is standing straight up. That is so foul and so fucked up. How do you? I, this is insane. Like, just straight up.

how do you process grief for this person that you are in love with for the I cannot like they just keep staying around like these chills um how do you process grief and truly because for me that would be super painful but I would probably like no disrespect like essentially fall out of love with them but then also because of that would not be able to grieve properly almost I don't know how you get through that when I was 24 and you're 24 years old like you're a baby at 24 I look back and I'm thinking of 24 I had two kids but I was a baby I should not have been like if I could have the exact same kids later on I would have done it in a heart like I go back in time and do it in a heartbeat but you're 24 when you're a baby most people have just graduated college they have just you know

their careers might just be taking off they might just be moving out of their parents house and some people don't even move out of their parents house at 24 years old like could not imagine losing my who was supposed to be the love of my life and then having to deal with that. And to find out that your dead spouse's mistress had been around your five-year-old, I would be sick to my stomach. And I am so stark. I am so sorry. You should truly write a book.

I don't know if therapy would be enough. I don't know if therapy would be enough. I'm so sorry for all of that. The next one says, I once dated a guy with a very specific and unexpected fetish. When he'd say, sit on my face, I assumed he meant in the typical way. Nope. First time I went to do it, he stopped me, moved me forward, and made it clear what he actually wanted was for me to pass gaps.

Not intimacy, just that. He was extremely particular about it. Obsessed with the small ones, would ask to smell it afterward, and literally position himself to sniff. The commitment was impressive in a concerning way. First of all, how are you making yourself fart in a way that, like you're planning out your farts for the sex. Do you know what I'm saying?

Like are you saving them all? Like how do you do you get a stomach ache during the day? Like how do you make yourself do that just because he wants you to fart on command? One of the out of pure disprol. The commitment was impressive in a concerning way. Out of pure disbelief, I asked him if it was just me or a general thing. Even jokingly asked if he liked it when his parents did it. He was very clear.

Absolutely not. Had to be someone who was attracted. to. That detail somehow made it even more surreal. We broke up for many reasons, but this was definitely one of them. Among all the red flags, that one was waving the loudest. I'm not trying to offend anyone listening if you have unique fetishes. I do wonder how one becomes aroused by this. I do wonder if there's trauma involved. I do wonder if there is a mental illness. I don't know that that could be normal to have that sort of like attraction and arousal for farting. I'm concerned.

I'm highly, I'm actually highly concerned. I'm glad you broke up with him. I, because we do a lot of weird things for people we love. And I don't know that I would ever get used to farting on command for someone. Do you know what I? Like, I just don't know. Like, I still am not over the fact that I have an ex that was obsessed with my period. blood. Like I still, it's hard for me to believe that people like that exist. And what's even harder for

me to believe is that like to this woman's point, sometimes it's just for you, right? Like, this guy might be maybe his next girlfriend. He also had her fart for him. But like my ex, who was like obsessed with my period blood, I would go out on a limb and say that he probably is not obsessed with the next person's period blood, which is even more concerned. Like, did you tell him that that was one of the reasons. Did you, did you like, what was your reaction when he, when he told you that that's what he liked and you guys had conversations about it and stuff? Do you just not have conversations and just don't react and because you love him at the time, you love this person, you're just going to just not say anything and you're going to thug it out until

you guys break up or is it like you had a crazy reaction and then you just eventually come around to it? Like I would just love to know more. And I would also love. to know more about like other like fetishes that you guys have like participate like participated in because you love them right like i'm not judging you for participating i am judging the other person to some degree because i don't love them right and i'm like i like cool i'm not trying to sex shame but it is also just like how did we arrive here how did you learn that you were obsessed with a woman farting how did you arrive at the place that you're you want to someone's period blood all over your hands. Like, how did we, how did we get there? Is it that you love

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All was going decently okay until he thought it would be fine to finish in my mouth. That's a big fuck no from me, dog. I wasn't expecting it and started gagging and coughing like crazy. Being pregnant, I accidentally started peeing. while coughing and peed all over his face. Yes, it got in his mouth. He was laughing hysterically and I was crying because one, I was pissed off and two, embarrassed, three, hormonal. We laugh about it now, but I think it genuinely traumatized me. Like, okay, that's an accident. I think that's kind of funny. I could laugh about it like be super disgusted right then and there, but then like laugh

about it later. That's fine. Glad you guys could make it work and laugh about it now. Okay? Like, truly. Outside of that, I don't think I'm going to read any more foul place because they're, I mean, Do you guys want a full episode? I'm asking you guys like I'm on live. Like if you guys could give me the answer right now. And I don't think that's the case. So I'm going to go see what's in my camera roll. I think that for next week's episode,

Zach and I are going to be watching. I've never seen it. Could not tell you one single thing about Love Island. I don't know what it is. I've never seen an single episode of it. I am going to watch it tonight and I'm going to circle back with Zach. He said that it's a really popular show and that like people are having big reactions to the cast.

I don't know what that means. I don't even know what Love Island is, right? Like, I don't even know what the premise of the show is. I need to watch the Alex Murdaugh, unconvicted, I think it's called. I also want to watch Worst X ever, like, the entire second season. I did watch the Wade episode, and it's the most sick thing that I've seen in a really long time. As you know, we watched The Crash. We watched The Nightmare Upstairs.

I'm trying to think what else. Oh, if you haven't already watched, I'm not sure if it's already out or if it's coming out the luckiest girl alive. That is an adaptation with Milakunis. And that is based on the book, The Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Nol. And I'm trying to think what else? What else is like real-time updates besides documentaries? Oh, actually, some really sad news in Delaware, specifically,

my kids school district there was a father who so a couple hold on let me backtrack so several years ago lindsay and i talked about the little girl who was her skeletal remains were found on the softball field here in smyrna where we live and it was really devastating both the mom and the stepdad went to prison i don't know if the stepdad is still in prison or not but i know the mom is still in prison or not but i know the is still in prison. I still don't know what the cause of death was or anything, but essentially someone took their dog

for a walk, was walking and the dog brought back the skull or a bone of some sort, and that's how they discovered the remains of this little girl, right? Too close to home. My kids played baseball there for several years. We pass it every single day, to this day.

And so it just, you just feel like in your own town, like things don't happen in your own town, right? another situation same town same school district um a father of a 10 year old girl and then there's two boys 15 and 11 so 15 11 and 10 years old and the girl didn't show up to class and then the police were called they announced today this morning um the dad was charged in the death of his daughter and i don't know how true all of the details that i don't know how true all of the details that i read R exactly Smyrna man charged in death of his 10-year-old daughter and the story that I read said something along the lines of he was beating her or whipping her with a belt and she maybe fell and got and hit her head on a piece of furniture and then the brothers moved her to her bedroom and then they called at like 2 a.m. the next day to I don't know who called. I don't know if it was the brothers,

the stepmom, the dad. I don't know who it was. Somebody called. Allegedly, this part was not in the article, but this is a rumor that I've heard, um, was that they wouldn't even let the police in and the police almost banged down the door, um, until the ambulance got there. And I don't know if that was like for they wanted to not have evidence. I don't really know. Um, and then allegedly it was over $5 that she needed for a field trip that he didn't want to give to her or something. And I say all that to say that the dad was actually charged too with the abuse of not just her, but also the other kids and also, I think, not feeding the other kids. And I just don't understand. Like, if we circle back to the conversation about millennials and us not having a

village and still showing up for our kids and still having the most financial troubles of generations before us, right? Like, on one hand, I have to wonder, could those kids have gone with anybody else? Like, if the dad really felt so burdened by these kids, could anybody else have helped or stepped in or like, I know it sounds crazy, but like, I live here. Like, I could have taken them. I know that sounds so absolutely diabolical, but I just say that because I have the resources and I have the funds to take care of somebody else if I needed to, like, especially in an

emergency situation, if this dad was so overwhelmed by these kids, like, where is the community and, but then it's so nuanced, right? Like, it sounds good, but then it's like what happens to the dad who, like, tries to pawn off his, I don't know, like, this whole thing. And it just feels so close to home. And then I find out I call Lux and Creed's cousins, my niece and my nephews, because we're so close and you know just hearing that like she's in the class of this little girl who didn't show up for school and it just it just doesn't feel like things like that happen here and I just worry about

like this two boys who are going to have to live with that for the rest of their lives and all of the kids that you know will carry this with them because they were in class with her or they went to school with her or they knew her maybe they lived in her neighborhood I don't know like it just breaks my heart and I just worry about like where is the community right like And it doesn't just happen here. It happens all over. So I don't want to just sit here and say like, whoa, is me or whoa, was Smyrna, right? But it happens everywhere.

My heart just goes out to all these families because I just, I genuinely don't understand. I, growing up, somebody was always willing to take me in. People may not have reported my mom all the time, or maybe they did and the county didn't do anything, but somebody was willing to take me in always, right? And it just feels like that doesn't happen here anymore. I don't know about everywhere else. It just doesn't feel like it's more of like a, oh, like their family is, you know, and they'd rather talk shit than to actually step in and say, like, I'll take this kid. Or like, I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense.

But in my head, it's like instead of judging the other parents is like, you're talking shit, but you're not going to do anything about it. And I just don't know what the solution is. I don't know if there is a solution. I don't know if it's no sense of community. I don't know if it's a lack of resources. I already know that child services are overwhelmed. And then I find out too, there was roughly around 20 calls to CPS or I don't know if CPS is what's here in Delaware, but like child protection services, DFS, whatever division of

family services. I don't know what the exact like company is. there was like somewhere around 20 calls. And it's very much giving Gabriel Fernandez. And I know that the teachers and things like that were calling CPS for Gabriel. And I, to find out that people called 20 something times, it's like you're not getting 20 something calls or, you know, even if it was 10 or 15 calls, you're not getting that many calls because there's not an issue. Right. It's the ones where you're like, you get one random call here and there.

If that got overlooked, which it shouldn't. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is it's like those ones get super investigated. And then the ones that are getting 20 calls are like not touched because they're overloaded. But you're going to go visit somebody's house that got called once or twice, but you're never going to go visit the one that's 15, 20, 30 times. Like you just feel like none of it makes sense.

And I don't know what the solution. Again, what the solution is. I don't know. And it just breaks my heart because how does a social worker or the company or the supervisor or whoever is in charge, how do you decide what cases to prioritize? I think that's like the bigger issue is like, how are you deciding this, right? Obviously, you're overworked and understaffed.

I'm aware and I don't want this to come off out of touch or like, sometimes I do think that people can fall through the cracks, but other times I wonder like who is telling you what ones to prioritize. And so I say all that to say, rest in peace to this little girl in Smyrna, my heart and my condolences are to the family. and if anyone listening to this podcast knows the family, I do not know the family. I'm happy to help in any way that I possibly can.

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Creed has asked for Michael Jackson's shoes. And the reason why I want to do a deep dive is because we recently saw the movie. And he's fascinating, right? And growing up, I do remember the trials of the child molestation case. And I was a kid. And I saw it on like bits and pieces on, you know, the TV or whatever at my neighbor's house or my mom talked about it. I remember my mom talking about it and I don't want to get into it right now,

but at a later episode or on Patreon or something. And sometimes when you're growing up, you hear things about certain people or certain things or certain situations or political or whatever it is, right? And you carry that with you. You think that's true. You think that's the way it is. And then when you're an adult and you look back at something and it's an entirely different perspective, you're looking at it through.

a different lens. And I say all that to say that I have an entirely different perspective on Michael Jackson now. And I think the reason why I've sort of gone down this rabbit hole a little bit is because of the movie. And so I started Googling all these things. And I started reading these things. And then I, you know, went down this whole rabbit hole. And I, not that I had like a firm stance growing up, but I was definitely more apprehensive about him and didn't really listen to his. music like obviously I knew songs I think you just know Michael Jackson songs whether you're a fan or not and now I just I think I'm seeing a little bit more clearly so let me know if that's of interest to you guys and then there's another

situation that I would love to talk about with either maybe Patreon I'll even talk about it on maybe karma and chaos or something with Becky I don't want to bore you guys to death with like the reading community I know sometimes me and Becky talk about that over on karma and chaos. Maybe I'll save that for this weekend. I'm headed to New Jersey this weekend to film an episode of For the Haders with Becky. We'll record karma and chaos. And I think Tracy and Jessica from bad examples will also be there to film an episode.

And so I definitely might save this specific topic for Becky, just like a little segment about the book community. Because it's about the book community, but it can be related. across the board to like a lot of different topics. It's just this specific example is book related. And then Michael Jackson, let me know about that. I definitely want to talk about that. I got to watch Love Island. And I need to watch the Alex Murdall. I'm trying to stay like I really want to be consistent. If I say I'm going to do something on this podcast, I want to follow through. I think that there has been a lot of saying we're going to do something and then we never do it. And yeah, life, lives, but I also just like don't want that to be like something that I

continue to do. Love Island, Alex Murdole. And then worst X ever, worst X ever, season two specifically. And then I want to watch Luckyest Girl Alive if that's out yet with Milakunas. And on that note, don't forget to go buy your tour tickets. The first tour stop is Indiana. And right before there, I am going to meet with Gabby Egan and hang out with her, tie-dye some stuff and just have a good time, do a podcast swap.

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