Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Love Is Not Enough
Episode Date: October 6, 2022EP246: Lindsie is back home in Atlanta! On behalf of Kail, please tip your pet groomers.. Kail shares her horror story of a particular pet smell that has Lindsie gagging. Lindsie wants to know if Kail... would prefer to be the side chick or main chick if it came down to picking. They explain their choice... Lindsie plays her favorite game of tiktok roulette with Kristen as Kail exits the podcast early. Is love enough in a relationship? Who are you at your worst? and wtf is up with the Kourtney/Travis living situation? Lindsie and Kristen also address some change in the Facebook groups... And today's foul play involves a very familiar underage drinking mishap. Thank you to our sponsors! Care/of: Visit TakeCareOf.com and enter code COFFEE50 for 50% off your first Care/of order Con Air: Search “Conair SmoothWrap” on Amazon.com to try the new drying experience with SmoothWrap today! Green Chef: Visit GreenChef.com/convos135 and use code convos135 to get $135 off plus free shipping Pair Eyewear: Go to paireyewear.com/COFFEECONVOS for 15% off your first purchase Wooga: Download June’s Journey today! Available on Android and iOS mobile devices, and on PC through Facebook Games
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I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you?
This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship
Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay
Welcome your coffee combo
Are you so happy? Let me try that again. Welcome to coffee combos. Hmm. I think the first one was better
I am I have a frog in my throat like um
Like congestion or whatever. So I'm gonna work on that
But I'm not
Lindsay
Are you good morning? Where's Diaz honey? I have had better days, but I am
I am surviving today. I have been all over Atlanta. I made it back last night and have been all over
Atlanta today picked up the dog picked up Jackson early from school because I got a
suspicious
Call from the school nurse around 935 this morning approximately
and
She said
Jackson said that he was gonna be with mom today. Is that correct? And I said it is and
She said well
Jackson is saying that he's sneezing and
So so he missed you and he wanted to come home. Uh-huh got it. Did Georgia remember you?
She did she her little tail was wagon whenever I showed up and she was excited to get in the car
Although she probably thought like didn't recognize who I was because this morning
I showed up with curly hair and that's like not the use for her and I also showed up in a new car
So she probably was like, okay, who is this lady?
And why is she here to get me from my grandparents house?
I call the sitters that watch her her grandparents because they're older and she probably just gets away with whatever when she's there
Oh, yeah, they probably love her
I
Was gonna say so. Oh, it's funny that you said that the school nurse called you
so I guess Lincoln's on vacation with hobby or was up until today and
So he wasn't on big he wasn't at school and Joe
called me last night and he was like
Kale, I'm pretty sure Maury said I'm not Lincoln's father. So can you let the school know not to call me?
I guess they called him by accident because oh my god
The school systems like are hooked up or whatever. I don't know why they would call him
Because Lincoln and Isaac don't even go to the same school
They never have since elementary school. It's like tail. Let them know Maury said and I was like, I will I got you
Oh my god, I love that so much
But it kind of reminds me of any time that Della has to go to Petsmart because we use Banfield as our vet and
And then also Petsmart grooming I was trying the mobile groomer for a while
And then that just became a cluster because I feel like they're on their own time and on their own schedule
And it's like at least Petsmart is consistent like you make an appointment and someone's gonna be there to do that job
So
Regularly, I will get notices from Petsmart like text notices and it's like Della is overdue for her annual visit or whatever
Or Della is ready to be picked up from grooming and I'm like
Will sir like are you answering your phone? Like is she stranded like
What is exactly happening and also like you know in our paperwork that Della was treated like a child in our
Divorce and I would love to know other people who have been divorced that like have their pets and their paperwork
I just think it's so comical now that I look back on it because I was so adamant about it
I was like, okay, if you're keeping her you're keeping her on the pet plan
You're like she has to get groomed if something catastrophic happens to her you have to immediately call me if
She is possibly passing away, but we don't know you have to talk to me about this like before making any crazy decisions
Um, would you ever put your dogs and like custody paperwork? Yes, I would
Um, I remember when Javi and I got divorced he wanted bear and I was like absolutely not
You're not getting bear like you didn't even want him when I got him
So why are you acting brand new now? But also just because you brought up Petsmart?
I want to remind everyone who's listening. I think Petsmart just because I used to work there
I know please don't forget to tip your groomers and your bathers your dog bathers your cat bathers your cat groomers
Whoever is taking like doing that because I remember like these dogs are not always gray
Getting baths and groomed and stuff and getting their nails done
So tips are very much appreciated
Well, I can tell you the person that Georgia goes to
Does such a good job on her and she says that she is an angel in there, but I can tell you for a fact
I've been in there to pick her up and there will be dogs trying to bite groomers in there
taking dumps on the table like shitting walking in and
I'm like, what in the hell is actually going on. No, literally, I've had when I used to work there
I've had dogs bite me
Just not fun. No, I mean some of them are really good. So don't get me wrong. Some of them are also
smell horrible and
I was popping anal glands. So
Just for that factor alone, you could tip me 10 wait, I'm gonna throw up, but I'm gonna ask
I'm gagging for real
As I'm asking this question what comes out. It's a liquid that smells like nothing like if you
Like I could never in my life work at PetSmart and then go out afterwards
Like I would have to go home and shower and like there's no let's go eat after work
Let's go drink after work like there was none of that that could not be done
No, ma'am because I would smell like wet dog and anal glands like does anal glands have a specific smell?
Yes, you know anal glands smell when you smell it like there's no other it doesn't smell like poop
It doesn't smell like pee. It doesn't smell like vomit anal gland is its own fucking scent. Hmm. It's like fishy metal
It's the most foul wait, Kristen. Can everyone hear you? Yes
It's it's like what it's like fishy metal smelling like metallicky
fishy like you
immediately know when anal glands have
secreted, but even if you've never smelled it before you'll know you'll be like, oh, that's an anal gland
No, like not. Oh my god, like you can pop you can squeeze Georgia as if you want at home shut up
No, I'm just telling you I'm not squeezing buttholes like what I
Wouldn't even know where it's at and no just no
That's immediately not happening and I don't know how we got off on this tangent
I think it was because your ex-husband or your ex-baby daddy
Got called about your other child and then I just was like, oh well Della's kind of my child
So well actually I have another confession to make that. I don't know if I've said it on this podcast before
Hmm. I've been using my ex's pet smart rewards every time I go
Wait, can I tell you guys a funny story? Yeah, I
I wonder if that's a common thing that people do whenever they divorce just to be like petty spaghetti because
To be fair my emails on it, too, but I use his phone number
Okay
Well, I was going to Kroger to like the fuel to try to get my gas
And I would put in my phone number and it was like you're not a member or whatever or that ID is like not valid
And I'm like damn it will like you've knocked me again
Like you hit me somewhere else
And I had to go and get a whole new Kroger card and start a whole new rewards because I guess he either took my number off of his rewards
But I'm not gonna lie like when I got to the pump sometimes
Right after we got divorced if it said there was like 10 cents in rewards
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna use that and I know it wasn't mine because I wasn't grocery shopping there
Well one time I used $8 coupon
$8, I can't tell you which X they if they hear this they'll go have to figure it out because
I'm not telling but my email is attached to it. So I think it is
It's legal for me to do. Okay, your emails on it. Yeah, I mean, it's not my phone number
But it's not his anymore either. I love this so much like listen, that is toxic
Watch it be the new person that got the new phone number
Wait, what because they recycle phone numbers like when you change your phone number, they recycle them. Oh
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Completely unrelated note, but I have to ask you this because I was riding in the car with Grayson over the weekend and
You know that song it comes on. I think it's by like walka-flocka and it's like I got a main bitch
No, I don't think I know that. Oh, did you send me it? Hold on
I think I have just like a little part of it. It'll just play like a little couple seconds. Um, it is
Do you remember that song? Yes, yes, I do
Okay, well in that song it's like talking about a main bitch or a mistress
so we were like getting out at Kroger and
I was like would you rather be a main bitch or a mistress and then I was like immediately have to ask
everybody on coffee combos because I feel like there's benefits to both and then like
Dectarments to both. Yeah
If I'm in a situation where there is a main bitch and a side bitch
I want to be the side one. I want to be the side one. Well, tell me why
There's no responsibilities. I don't have to worry about this person sleeping in my bed every night
Um, they're probably gonna be really nice to me all the time
You know, like there's not gonna be like those arguments where you're fighting in a relationship
I'm I'm not gonna have to pay bills for this person. This person's probably gonna pay mine. Um
So I'm gonna get basically the better half of him like the better mood
Him or her. Um, the better
communication
all of that
So to me, I also want to be the mistress because I'm like, okay for all of those exact same reasons, but also
Um, I feel like I'm kind of like the chosen one
But then at the same time, are you the chosen one because they're still keeping the main one around?
Well, this goes back to the argument of
Who does he actually love because he's lying to one
But staying in that relationship
There was an argument like this a while back and it was like
it's like that saying if
um, you love two people then like should you choose
Which one should you choose and it's you can't love two people like don't choose the first one or whatever
What is that saying christen? Do you know what you're talking about?
I think it's I think it's generally along those lines of like
You had brought it to the podcast before and it basically had said like you can't be in love with two people at the same time
So pick the second one because you wouldn't have ended up with the second if you were actually in love with the first
Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, that's it
I mean, I would just be like pissed off if I was the first one
And then he was running around with like some mistress like all over town
And then they were having a good time and I was doing like all the hard work
Right and that kind of goes back to like what I was saying about like the fighting and stuff like
They're going to fight about relationship shit. They're going to fight about
um
The mental load the physical load the kids this that in the third
But you're probably going to be in a better mood when you're with your mistress because it's kind of
An escape from reality a little bit
But what if the person that you're with this is a hypothetical situation
But what if the person that you're with is just like so extremely toxic
That you were a mistress
Then you became the main bitch. This happened to me. What do you mean?
And then you became the mistress again that what the fuck Lindsay? Why are you describing my life?
Why are you outing me?
Yeah, why are you yelling at me?
Don't yell at me. But seriously like
What if it's so toxic that
You're that then what do you do you get the fuck out because that was literal hell on earth
Yes, literal literal hell on earth
And I would never I actually wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy because it's so toxic
And you feel like you're so in love with this person and you've never felt anything like it
Just to be like literally left on your ass
Oh, yeah, like
Worst feeling ever ever
No, literally like the worst I've been there before I've been there one time in my 33 years
And it truly is like the worst feeling that
You can ever feel because when you if you are with someone who is like such a narcissist and a pathological liar
What if you're in a situation where it's like, okay
You are a mistress, but you don't know it. That was me
and so then it's like
Do you feel like you're accountable for
What they've been doing with you when you didn't know what they were doing behind your back. Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no I and people gave me shit for this. They were like
You knew about her. No, I knew she was an ex. I didn't know that it was still correct
I didn't know it was still going on. You told me this person told me it was part of their past
So yes, I knew about her and them to a degree
But I didn't know that it was still actively going on or right
So and then it's just so crazy how
A relationship or a person in a relationship could make you feel so fucking worthless
Yes, like the pain that you feel coming out of a situation like that is
You cannot compare it to anything else. It is so painful and you literally feel like
Worthless like I don't even know how else to describe it and then it's like what were you doing that whole time?
just like living a lie that whole
time for me mine was like
A decent period of time, but this was going on was yours like
Drug out or did you find out in weeks or like what? Well? I mean I found out after
months but then I was already so far in that I couldn't leave and then I was it was just so toxic that I couldn't
I wanted him to pick me
um, and it would just be
back and forth back and forth back and forth, but um, that's a good question to ask everyone like if you found yourself in this situation and then
You find out like all the intricacies of the situation and how this person has been manipulating you
Would you rather be the one that is chosen or the one that is set free because?
I was in my situation the chosen one, but wish I was the one that was set free
Well, that's the other part of it. It's like I I was so I don't want to say brainwashed. I want to say more like manipulated
um
I couldn't get out of it, but I I I almost want to put the blame on that person for
He knew what he was doing. So just let me go. Yes, because I wasn't able to like for all the all that time
Why couldn't you let me go knowing that I couldn't but this was toxic because he knew it was toxic
his main bitch that was a side bitch that was back to the main bitch too
You we all knew it was toxic. So why didn't you let me go either?
And it's like why would someone go back that had been
Okay, so you were a main bitch and then you like didn't know that he had a mistress
And then he had a mistress and then he was in a relationship with his mistress
And then broke it off with the mistress or the mistress broke it off with him
And then he went back to the main one like you aren't the chosen one, right? Yeah
It's a horrible situation. It's such a scam. It's it is such a scam
It's a live scam
I will tell you and I don't know if you're there yet, but I will tell you that once you get so far out of it
You'll never go back like I I remember the days like
Hoping and wishing that I would not
Fall back into it, but I knew that I would fall back into it
Now I'm in a place where I would never fall back into it
At least not with this person. I would hope that I would see more red flags than another person
Um, but I would never fall back into it with this person and I would never allow them to make me feel any kind of way
And then I have higher standards for my relationship now
So I will say that like once you're out of it. You are the fuck out of it
It teaches you a lot of lessons along the way, right? It's like in some ways
It's sad because it makes you lose hope in humanity innocence like
Wow, like how could someone actually
Do those actions?
But then at the same time
It also helps you not be so naive to things to
Watch certain red flags that should have been red flags that you aren't identifying
But also I want to just add this because I only just recently got to this in therapy
My therapist told me that I have to take accountability for going back every time
so
That was something I was in denial. It was like he's doing xyz to me. He's doing this. He's doing that. He's doing that
And at some point I have to look at myself and be like
You're allowing it. It's so crazy that you said that like literally were you listening to my therapy today?
I apparently I was apparently you were eavesdropping on me. I'm sorry
no, I talked to my therapist about just being like a
feeling like a wounded person
and
Why I find myself in situations that allow people to do such horrible things to me
And that I accept those things as if I'm deserving of those things and allow them to
rationalize it to me that makes me feel bad for them instead of
Realizing that like it's so toxic to me
But because I feel bad for them. I find myself in
shitty relationship situations
Because I care more about their feelings and I care about mine
and at this point it's like you have to find
peace within yourself
and
Realize that you are your best advocate
And you need to be looking out for yourself because someone who's doing that to you is certainly looking out for themselves
I just want to know how like
I understand like childhood impacts adulthood to some degree and things like that
I just want to know like because I haven't gotten there in therapy yet like how I ended up in that situation with that person
What led me to that because I want to make sure that's healed. I don't ever want to go back to something
You know, I'll never go back to that person
But I don't ever want to go find myself in this in a similar situation with somebody else
I asked my therapist literally point blank like what happened to me that made me think that that was normal or acceptable
Like what is it in me that causes me to think that that's okay because whatever that is we need to work on that
Effective immediately, right, right
I feel like human brains and human psychology is so intricate and complicated that I just
I don't even know if there's answers like are there answers? We don't know
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Since we're on like all this toxic talk
Um, I want to play this fall wedding reel for you since uh, you know, we should talk about weddings after cheating
Dude get the fuck out of here with fall weddings
Like can't we just not agree that nobody should be doing fucking fall weddings?
Like how stupid it's football season and like people can act like that says it's not a huge deal
Yeah, the fall weather is gorgeous
If everybody say you have football fans and everybody happens to be on some kind of bi-week
And you finagle a fall wedding the vibes are up for a fall wedding
However, it's like no one's seen what my man jack has to go through. I'm going to a wedding in a couple weeks
Thankfully, we don't have to there's nothing like going on. We had to actually turn something down for busting because of that wedding
It's like having a wedding on a holiday. Just don't fucking do it. Don't have weddings on a holiday
Don't have weddings during football season
I absolutely did not see it going there
Um, well to be fair, what if well, I guess some people are college football fans, which is what that's saturdays, right?
Okay, first of all, literally weddings consume like your weekend and like your weekend plans and
Maybe this is more applicable to people in the south and like college football lovers
Which could be like really anywhere in the united states, but like especially in the south
And maybe I just say that because I've only slipped in the south
I definitely think it's it's definitely a bigger thing in the south. I'm not saying people up here don't don't watch it
There's definitely college football fans, but I think it's bigger in the south for sure
First of all, I'm just like in total agreement with that guy
period I'm just I think fall weddings are probably it is my favorite weather
And so I think that it's like the perfect time to get married and like the weather's just so beautiful and whatever
But also like if Clemson's playing and I get a wedding invitation. No, like not going
Specifically for that reason wait, I got married in september. It was fall. That's fall. Okay
Kristen, when did you get married october? I got married on my birthday october 23rd. Okay, you guys are
Northern folks that do not like college football and I am alarmed by everything that I just heard
Well, I hate I thought he was going to say like the sunday thing for NFL, which I agree with
Um, sorry, Kristen. I'm pretty sure didn't you get married on a sunday?
Yes, I did. I hate sunday anything. I hate sunday birthday parties. I hate sunday weddings
I hate because to me
Most people I don't but most people drink and then people have to go to work the next day
Okay, no, also effectively. No
um, although I will say
I have heard that if you do a sunday wedding or like an off-day wedding that is
It's cheaper cheaper. And so
To me for budgeting purposes. I think that that does make sense to do that. Well, then I would go for a friday
No, because then you've fucked up your
Saturday in the fall. Well, right, right, right. I guess I was just talking in terms of like outside of fall purposes
Um, I would go for a friday or a saturday. I'm not I'm never having a sunday thing
Like sunday things are not a thing for me. I'm never doing it. I don't want to get dressed up
I don't want to go out. I don't want like sundays are a no. Okay, so
I typically like to
Prepare for my week, but I consider my sunday like a start of my week
We've talked about this so many times, but like it truly is like a prep day
So if I'm getting invited to something on a sunday
Um, and I haven't prepped for my week then my whole week just feels off. It's just a scam
Um, it's a fluster like no, I also don't want to do that
Um, but if I'm gonna have to pick a sunday in the fall or a saturday in the fall or a friday in the fall
I'm definitely picking sunday all fucking day
Okay
And also if you're inviting me to a wedding and like you're one of my good friends
So anyone who's listening to this if you're planning on getting married in the fall
And it's gonna be on a saturday you better have lemon pepper flats and you better have a flat screen
And you actually better have multiple flat screens because we need to see all the major games that are playing
So we know who's winning who's losing and what the lineup is going to look like for the polls
That would actually be kind of cool if someone had a wedding like I'm picturing my wedding venue, which was an aquarium
if they had
Like flat screens on the walls and had like a game playing also
So like you could be like drinking dancing and watching the game all at one time. It's a win-win
Um, that would be absolutely amazing, but it would have to be like semi
Uh tailgate themed right like I could get behind that. Yeah. Oh tail tailgate theme. That's funny
Um, okay, obviously if he's listening to this my plans are canceled
I'm never having a big wedding ever again. So it doesn't matter
Um, I never had a wedding in the first place, but if I did get married again
Hypothetically, which probably not happening. Um, but if I did then
Honestly, maybe it will be a fall wedding and maybe it will be on a saturday
And maybe it will be tailgate theme and it probably will have wings and it will have a lot of flat screens
And it'll be like the party of the year. So just came up with the best plan ever. Thanks guys
I would probably drink at that actually
Wow, thanks. I saved myself to drink maybe like twice a year
It's just not my thing. So what are you drinking if you're drinking? Um, I really like fireball chased by rumchata
Oh my god, that's
That's your one. I got so sick
Rumchata after that is so good. Kale. I got so sick off gold schlager
On my 21st birthday and it just tastes like Christmas trees blew up in my mouth and like
No, it's like the same like same vibes as fireball and it's just like not happening. So no
I also
um, I could do like a mics hard. I could do like a
Cool, what is it called wine cooler? I could do like a bahama mama
Something like like fruity
Girlie. I don't do wine. I don't do I'm not a margarita girl. I'm not a mimosa girl
It gives me heartburn the orange juice. Um
I'm just not I'm very much like a fruity girlie
Can't taste the alcohol kind of girl except for fireball is like I could do fireball
Okay, well while we're on the topic of this and you mentioned orange juice
First of all, don't knock on a mimosa because like best drink ever like it's appropriate anytime
um
Anytime of the day like you wake up. It's a Saturday morning. You start your laundry
football's on mimosa
You want a brunch on a random day? Mimosa
You want to
Just like have a little glass at home after a long day of work
You know, you got the oj flowing freely in the fridge mimosa like I just
I don't know what and none of my friends that I know of are casual drinkers like I know they exist
I see it on tiktok, but like I don't know anyone who like
Casually drinks throughout their day, but like I know people who smoke pot on casually throughout the day
So like but I don't know anyone who just like has a mimosa or like drinks wine or like
Just casually throughout the day. Like I don't know if I just don't have cool friends or like
This makes me have to ask the next question
If you are drinking oj, are you like pulp free or you go and pulp?
I want all the pulp all the pulp give me all the pulp
I wanted to feel like I sucked it out of an orange juice
High pulp and out of it out of an orange. I want you to think that like I literally juiced that shit that morning
Yes, like I did it myself
So I'm actually going to go get my kids
Um, so I'm actually going to dip out of here. I love y'all. Um, love you. See ya. Sorry about that
Bye guys. Bye
Um, she hates us. It's fine
Wait, so
I just have to pick up where we left off. Um
Did you see that tape?
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
We left off. Um, did you see that tick tock with the
Mom waxing the little girl's eyebrows. Oh my god. Yeah
Kale sent it to me and I was putting it in here and
I
Have so many thoughts. Can you play it? Oh wait, they it doesn't matter because they can only like see it waxing, right?
Yeah, so you can't hear it. How about this you go click it yourself watch it real quick and then we'll reconvene
Okay, one eternity later
Okay, so
Yes, I watched this actually yesterday saw it. It was like on my explorer or whatever for you page
Probably because of kale
And I saw it and I have mixed feelings about it because
As a mom, I just don't know that I would do it. Um, but also
So would someone like be making fun of the child for having a unibrow like I don't know
so
That's kind of where I was going with it because like okay
Take it back to like when you first started shaving your legs
Everybody like couldn't wait to shave right and like you'd like people would get made fun of if they had hairy legs
And most of the girls were already shaving
So is it like that?
But you know that young like do we think that kids care as much or do we think that it's more so like
Adults making fun of the kids than the kids overhear it than the kids make fun of them
I think it's a couple things. I think that
They're certain what we would consider like childhood traumas that we've had to deal with like growing up. I remember
Everyone that I was surrounded by was allowed to shave before I was and so I felt like such an outcast and like left out
Um, so I know what that felt like. So in this mom's defense
She said that her parents let her walk around with a unibrow for like her childhood
And so maybe it's some projection like how she felt and so she doesn't want her daughter to feel that way
Um, but then also being self-aware of how cruel the world actually is and will someone say something to hurt her child's feelings
Like maybe she's trying to eliminate that
although
A three-year-old is a three-year-old is a three-year-old
So I'm like any person that's going to be making fun of a three-year-old's eyebrows because they touch
That's a damn problem. Well 1 000 percent. I mean anybody who makes fun of anybody for anything is it's really a them problem
We've got too much important shit going on these days in the world to worry about other people and making fun of them
Um, but I don't I don't know when I saw it. I was just like what the actual fuck like I didn't know how to feel
Because my first reaction was oh my god, like she's doing that to her three-year-old
But then I was like, well, why am I judging like maybe
Like I don't know as a parent. I know Kale's like my kid's not gonna be the booger kid
So I'm gonna pick my kid's nose and like I'm gonna pop anybody's pimples that they have and whatever
So I'm like, I guess it's kind of along the same lines like
Yeah, I mean I haven't had a child with a unibrow. So like I can't really
Talk about it. Jackson's always been kind of hairy for like a like
Light-haired kid, you know, like we and I never was hairy, but he has a decent amount of like
hair on his legs and
His little brows were like always just like so perfect and like hairy kind of and he's got like really long lashes
and a lot of hair on his head so
If he would have had a unibrow, I'm not sure what I would have done
Um, but I'm not sure that like waxing it and putting something on their face without them knowing that it's going to get ripped off and
Like hurt them
And then I'm also like well with little fragile skin like that
What if she would have put that wax on there? It would have ripped the skin off, right?
Right. I mean she took it the three-year-old took it like a freaking champ
Like a champ took it better than I would so I would love to know other parents who are on here like in that situation
What are you doing? Yeah, I kind of want to know too
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Um, we're gonna play tiktok roulette and I'm gonna let Kristen pick the ones that I found because
There was so much good stuff on tiktok
This week that I was just like I've got to share and I've got to talk about every one of these things and nothing
Is correlated with each other
It's literally not at all
Okay, I'm gonna do this one because I feel like we talk about this all the time
Learned is love is not enough
Love is not enough
for a long-term committed
healthy
Relationship to fully work
My my personal experience one human being love is not enough and I think we've been told our whole life
Love is all you need and it's just for me not true. What else do you need?
values
vision
in lifestyle
I have a lot to say about it. I'm interested
I don't think that love is enough
Um, I have found myself in recent situations realizing that
And realizing that no matter how much you love someone
It takes mindset
to match
that commitment of love
And if the mindset doesn't match
um
Your values can be off by just a little bit and I think that you have to decide like what your deal breaker values are
like what your vision for your life is and you know
Can you stay committed to those things and can someone else stay committed to
Those things that you're committed to because ultimately when you make commitments to yourself and you're setting boundaries
that other person has to
Stay committing committed to respecting those boundaries and if they can't and all you have is love
You can love each other so much, but if nothing else matches
Then you're just going to fight to get back together to fight to get back together and that is a toxic pattern
Yeah, I totally agree. Um, I think
I think each person it kind of goes in line. I would say with like your deal breakers essentially
These are things that you require
Plus love to like make you stay in happy relationships. So for some people it's you know
They need somebody that's nurturing and caring and like obsessed with them and whatever like that might be what they need
to
Be in a happy relationship plus love
And if they're with somebody who requires like I don't know a sense of independence
And like the complete polar opposite. Yeah, you can love each other for a while, but
That even that's going to get hard
It's going to start becoming way more of a choice and it's never going to get back to the feeling of love because
Everything else is completely mismatched
Well, and I think it goes back to the conversation that you and I had on the southern tea about being evenly yoked
And it's a conversation that I had with my parents actually this weekend that
um
In my raising that I think that my parents didn't really understand
Biblically what exactly that meant that doesn't mean from a financial standpoint. It doesn't mean
Um just from a physical standpoint. It's so much deeper than that and I think that
as an adult and at 33 that I
Have done a lot of self exploring and getting to know myself through the therapy process that I know what I'm looking for
And there are certain things that I'm not going to bend on whether it come from
A value standpoint
From a vision standpoint
That no matter
What that person makes me feel it's not going to change those things
Right, right, and I think that's why a lot of relationships fail too
like
I think a lot of relationships fail because they might not already they might not know their own deal breakers
So it just feels like something's wrong and it feels like something's off and they can't put their finger on it
and
You know, it takes a while
I feel like I didn't really know my deal breakers until
Like I knew some of them, but I feel like they also have changed over the years
So it's like if that relationship doesn't change with it
Then you could I think that's why a lot of people get divorced after like 20 years of marriage
Well, I saw this one thing on social media one time and it was a video or like a reel or something
And it was this man talking about how he felt like he had been married to multiple women throughout their marriage and that
He had to be willing to evolve and she had to be willing to evolve within their individual involvement
So
That's the only way that it will work. And I think that that's something to definitely identify when you're looking at a relationship
Is this person going to be able to evolve is I'm evolving right exactly because
There are some people who I would say stay stagnant throughout life
And like there's other people who are always changing
And those people are not going to be able to make it work in my opinion
Next tiktok. Okay
Man, who are you when it goes south man? Not when you get what you want
We know when the sun's shining and you get what you want. You're gonna smile
Babies do that. I give them a bottle. They're gonna smile
I give them what they want. They're gonna smile. I give a puppy a snack
He's gonna smile
But when you don't get what you want when it doesn't go the way you want it to
Even if it affects and impacts you on a physical level
Who are you?
Because that's the person that your kids are gonna learn from that's the person that your parents raise
That's the person that will go out and either positively or negatively affect and impact the world
What do you think?
I love that one. It's so it's it's so true though. Like it's it's so easy to be a
Good person when everything is okay
It's so easy to be a good person when you're getting everything you want
You're not going through tough times
But I don't think that you truly get to know somebody and this goes for like any type of relationship in my opinion
You really don't truly get to know somebody until they're down in the dumps and you're still trying to like interact with them
And like how they choose to interact at that point
It speaks a lot not saying that not you know, everybody's entitled for a bad day
Everybody's entitled to like, you know have off times
But I feel like you really get to learn about a person when they're going through some shit
I think that it's how you conduct yourself and handle yourself when you're facing adversity that speaks most about your character
When everything's
Positive and everything's going great. You're not facing any type of adversity. It's easy to smile. It's easy to
To be kind. It's easy to
Do all of the positive things. I think when
You are faced with a hard situation
You have to really dig deep for me and my faith to be like, you know what?
This is what I want to do. But this is what god tells me to do. This is the way that he tells me to lead
And I don't always handle everything the right way
Um, I've handled lots of things the wrong way
but
I think I'm also willing to learn through those hard moments and
I'm also able to self identify when I've handled something wrong
And I think that is the difference with a lot of people that
You know, they're not willing to acknowledge that they have handled anything wrong and aren't willing to grow through
the struggle
Right. I mean, I totally agree with you. It's
I feel like I've learned more about people
When they're going through bad times or when I'm going through bad times
And I have at any point in my life when things were going good for both people
Agreed 1,000 1,000 percent
Um, what is this uh about Courtney and Travis not living together? Okay, so
Tell me more
So kale found this
Um
TikTok, I guess she found it on TikTok and um, so she's gonna have to give her opinion on like what her thoughts were of it
I think I already know her thoughts on it. What that was next week
Um, when she's back, but she found this talking about how Courtney and Travis don't actually live together
And I don't know if it's true. I don't know the validity. I didn't like fact check here
So it could be very wrong, but I'm gonna play it
Well according to Courtney her and Travis do not live together
They actually live one block away from each other in two separate homes where her kids live with her and his kids
Live with him when her kids are with their dad
She sleeps at his house and when his kids
I guess are not around he sleeps at her house on the show
They're acting like they live together, but apparently they do not live together
She said maybe in the future, but not now and folks that is why they're always
PDAing it up in public because people who live together are bored of that shit. They don't do that anymore
So now it does make a little bit of sense
This is exactly why people call me Courtney Kardashian
Um, because this is some shit that I would also do
Please explain like please explain what you like why is it that you don't want to live with somebody?
Not necessarily full-time. So
um, I feel like for a lot of reasons and
I will list a couple of them. I'm sure I can like come up with more along the way
but
after might have worse and moving into this house
I had never really lived anywhere
by myself that was like considered mine
from my parents to then
living with will and so
the significance of my home and it being mine
um, and all of my things here and maybe being able to like kind of like do whatever I want to hear
is
very significant
and
I just love the way that I have freedom
Here, I don't have to worry about anyone like am I stuff if I want to see someone
I can see them and when I don't I don't have to like they can go back to their place
Um, also Jackson has the entire upstairs to himself and it's just like set up the way that I want to
um, I don't know. I just
I think that it's so nice to be able to kind of like have your own space and I don't think that that identifies like living together is
um
indicative of
the best marriage or relationship, especially in a situation where you're combining households
um, you have kids with different custody schedules
um, your marriage being new with
having children
I think that that all adds
Another layer. I think it would be a little bit different if it was two people
who had never been married before
and didn't have children
I think at that point then it might be like a little bit different
But in this situation, I'm like she has her routine and she has her schedule and she likes to do things her way
and he has his routine his schedule likes to do things his way and
They like to pda it up and everything seems like it's going great for them. So I'm in total agreement. Love it so much
Bible now, do you think that's a solution to
Maybe the issue of how hard it is to blend families. Like do you think that would help is if you guys are never living together?
um, I think that every person and every
Family if you're ever trying to blend a family should do what feels comfortable for them
If I was going to do it, um
I wouldn't want to move in with someone immediately. I think that that's like a dangerous thing to do and potentially
um
Could end a relationship really fast because there's so many things to navigate through
um, and I think I have had this conversation in the past
of
Moving in to each other like one or the other place because it was either always yours or always theirs
And then if there's kids involved, it was always your kids are always my kid
Yeah, I could see that there's like ownership
Struggles I think that are there
um, and maybe
Who's to say they might not be planning to build a house and like make it their own
And like new and it's new for everybody and it's like creating
A new sense of normal versus coming into someone else's
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Okay, so I just went on instagram live and you were on it
Everyone was like, what are you doing with your hair and at the time? Obviously I just didn't have time because I was getting on another podcast
But I just got the conair smooth wrap hair dryer. So as soon as we get off the podcast
I'm going to go use it to finish out my look for the day because I'm going to football after this
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Okay, so one thank you for the science lesson explaining it because your hair has been looking so good. It looks so smooth
So healthy looking and it looks like there's like no frizz anymore. Yeah
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Well, and I know that you've talked to me about not having a whole lot of volume
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Yes, again
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Okay, so I'm assuming for like my hair. I normally use like, you know medium heat, but you have thicker hair
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So, you know and obviously just tell me to shut the fuck up if you don't want to cover this but
Like how old were you when your dad met Julie?
Um, I would I think six years old. Okay. So
How long was it till you?
Like lived with them not long so when
My parents went through their divorce and trust me. They'll correct me if I am wrong
um, when they went through their divorce my
Both my parents we were living in Atlanta at the time
When they filed for divorce. So both moved back to the state of South Carolina
Um, or maybe just one did I can't remember that part
But I know my dad moved back to the state of South Carolina and was temporarily living with my grandparents
Um, trying to figure out like what exactly it was gonna, you know transpire
um, and then I believe we moved from my grandparents to
an apartment and then they
briefly if they didn't bring chase home there
then
She was preck. Julie was pregnant there and I believe that was like maybe eight months to a year from the time that
they started seeing each other
so
When you started having like obviously, you know, your siblings, right?
So when that and you were living to like with them
Did you ever feel like because that's still blending a family too just because they weren't there when you first got involved now
They're there and I'm sure that's like still blending like was that hard for you? Like did you feel?
like you were treated differently or
no, but I think
Not at that time of my life. I don't think that came until later
um, but I think I was just so young to maybe even
Realize anything because I don't ever remember my parents ever being together
so like I'm not probably the best one to
Really ask because I don't have any memories of like my biological mom and dad together ever
Okay, so the only memory I ever have
Of my dad being with anybody has been with Julie. Okay, so literally it's like basically second nature to you. Yeah, okay
Yeah, that's fair. I just have I've always been curious like what is that process feel like where you go from like being one family unit to like
Now you all of a sudden are like meshing with another and like that would I mean that just makes me
Freak out in general just thinking about it like anytime. I even have people that have like lived with me temporarily
Um at my house as an adult it freaks me out having people like in my space
Well, I just don't love people in my space and now that I
Am so possessive of like my space my things
Um, I just don't see that ever happening in the near future. I do however
Think that it would be easier
To be with someone that did not have children
um, if I was going to have someone either move in or
Or like blend with that situation. I think it would be easier because there wouldn't be so much blending if that makes sense
Yeah, because it's like only one person blending as opposed to an entire family unit blending
Yes, it would be like two family units blending. Yeah into one and that just seems like a clusterfuck
I mean more power to everybody who does it. I'm sure there's obviously
Good stories in it, but like I just don't know how you don't end up with like hurt feelings and jealousy throughout that process
Um agreed. Um, I did want to play a song that like hit really
hard, um
I sent it to you christen, so I'm gonna let you play it
But it hit really hard for me and then I immediately don't want to talk about it and then I immediately want to do foul play
Okay, sounds good. Well while I'm ticking this off
um, did you want to
go to
Like just briefly talk about the aia awards for coffee combos real quick. Yes. So I know a lot of people have been asking about the aia awards
and
When we know some information will share we do not know
Maybe you guys should go spam the aia awards account. Um, and maybe they'll tell us
More information, but we do not know
Um, that's the info on that if you guys are interested in us covering any of the coverage on the serial
killer in california
Um, or if you're following this then please let us know and also send us anything that you have found because
would love to have it and um
also would just briefly like to discuss the
Facebook groups like there are certain things that
That come across is very like catty and ugly versus being constructive criticism. So
Um, yeah chris and what do you have to say about that? Um, well the southern tea
Official page is up and running for that exact reason
Um, baby mamas has an official page for that exact reason our kitty gang
You guys are pretty great. Our admins over there are phenomenal
Um, that keeping things as you know positive as possible and making sure there's a big shout out to the admins of coffee combos
Facebook group. Yeah, the admins and mods over there are killing it. Um, I know it's a huge group to manage. I help when I can
Um, but you know
We try to keep these places positive because a lot of people go in there and they trust the community and they ask
All kinds of questions and some are anonymous and some are not and
We just wanted to be a safe space for everybody to go ask and get actual opinions
And we're not saying you all have to agree
On anything. We're not saying we can't take feedback
But just be nice about the way you're saying stuff because it's real people reading it behind the screens
And that's all I got to say about that. Perfect. Now i'm gonna play the song that we're not gonna talk about
I was on just useful big apologies. I guess I should have been more conscious how you spoke to me
Because when we fight you give me space and not communicate
And for a while I thought that's what I should appreciate
Maybe I was holding on to what I thought you were
But when you think you are eventually it starts to hurt the version of you in my head now
I know wasn't true some people fall further on people guess my one was you
Okay, so we're going into foul play am I reading yes, okay
I have wanted to write in this foul play for a while and never had the time to actually sit down and write it
So here we go to set the scene. It was a crispy october night with a bonfire and beers with my best friend
Her boyfriend and his brother and cousin male. I had never drank beer before maybe a sip here and there
But never fully committed to the bushlight ew
Me and my bestie and her boyfriend drank the whole case to ourselves
So we responsibly stayed the night considering we were in no shape to drive
I snuggled in on the couch
I snuggled in on the couch and before I knew it. I was waking up in the pitch black room spinning. Oh, no
We've all been in a spinning situation. This is bad. This is very bad
I had no clue what time it was so I tried my best to get a grip and stop all the dizziness and spinning y'all
It felt like I was on a never-ending carousel
Whoo, we all know about this girly put your foot on the floor
Oh, remember this is the first time I drank beer and the first time I really let myself get drunk
Finally, I realized I couldn't stop spinning and I knew I was going to vomit
I jumped off off the couch ran up the stairs and into the bathroom the very second I opened the bathroom door
I immediately started projectile vomiting everywhere
Oh to really give you a description of the bathroom as soon as you walk in the door
You turn left the sink is directly in front
The bathtub was on my left and the toilet was past the bathtub also on the left
I vomited all over the wall in front of me
The sink the bathtub and the floor before I made it to the toilet where I continued to throw up
Everything I drank the night before
I also
Oh my god, no
No, what? She had beer shits. She had beer shits. I didn't really know these people that lived in this house
I maybe met them a small handful of times before but it's not like we were all super good friends
Did I mention the dad that owns the house is an AA sponsor?
Oh
My god, this just gets worse and worse. Yes. We were under age
I tried to clean the bathroom the best I could but the only thing I had to clean with was an almost empty bottle of
Windex and a small bathroom hand towel. I don't remember much of the cleaning
But I'm pretty sure I got it all
Hopefully I then had to walk my shitty self over to my friend's boyfriend's room
And knock on the door and beg her for sweatpants
Obviously I couldn't tell her I shit my pants
So I told her I threw up and fell in it. They then gathered all my things and I left
My sister and I shared a car so I had a car to pick me up
But there was no way I was waiting around for people to wake up or who knows
I probably woke them all up with my projectile vomiting at this point
I figured out that it was 7 a.m. On a Saturday morning. Nebraska football had a morning game
So traffic was horrible and I was walking down the busiest street in my town
Waiting for my sister to come find me and rescue me from my mortifying experience
Sorry, that was such a long story, but that's only the first time I shit my pants in the 20s
Anyways, love your podcast and both of you. Please never stop
Okay, I immediately thought that they were underage when she said bush light
Like I immediately knew that this was like an underage drinking experience
That's what they could get their hands on and also like did not know how to properly buy decent alcohol. So
There's that also if I was throwing up and also shit myself
I would hope that I would just pass away in that moment
This is immediately why when I am stomach sick
I sit on the toilet and I throw up in a trash can because you never know what's going to happen
I'm a pro at this at this point. Is this happening to you before? Yes, this happened to me at freaking
Cracker barrel when I was younger
I got food poisoning at cracker barrel
It hit me so fast and so hard that I started projectile vomiting across the table and the force I puked with
I immediately shit myself in the dining room of cracker barrel. No. Yep. Immediately
immediately no
On that note since we are talking about crimes
I want to let y'all know that coffee combos true crime will air on Monday and we are covering sins of our mother
So if you guys have not watched it and want to like very
Um, intently follow along then make sure you watch it on netflix. Um, this is a very complex story
And we tried our best to cover
All of the bases that we could in the amount of time that we had to cover it
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