Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Mind Yo Damn Business

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family,

and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Hello. Good morning and welcome to Coffee Combo's podcast. I am coming in hot, fresh out of the shower, curly girl today. I love that for you. I thought I looked okay. I thought I looked appropriate enough to podcast, but evidently the camera says otherwise. Otherwise. Oh my God. Okay. So I have to tell you about my events that have unfolded from from yesterday. Okay. You've sold houses before and moved a lot. Have you ever been in a situation

where you're currently living in a house while while you're selling it? No. Okay, that's a whole nother undertaking. That's why I won't do it. Got a text message at 4 p.m. yesterday asking if an agent could come and preview my home at 4 15 before she brought her clients. And I don't really hate that idea of like agents coming and previewing before just like a bunch of people like traips through your home.

And I feel a little bit weird with my personal stuff being here. And I told this to somebody the other day and they were like, what do you think they're doing? Like sniffing your panties, like when they're, and they're no, that's not what I think they're doing. It just makes me feel weird. Well, I actually think that's really smart

because I'm so particular about, so like I had a realtor, his name's Marcus, shout out to Marcus, love you, thank you for putting up with my bullshit. He showed me at least 40 plus houses. And I think that if he would have previewed some of them. Ahead of time? Yeah, he would have.

And like there was, I'm very outspoken about a lot of things as y'all know. And so I think if he would have done that, he might've saved everybody some time just because you know what your client likes at some point you're either going to get sick of them and figure out what they like so that you don't take them to certain places. Or also just to make sure it's like cleaning stuff.

Well, okay, so I say all of this to say if you're in this process of purchasing a home and somebody lives in a home, number one, we have to coordinate to like be out of this house. And yesterday that was absolutely not happening in 15 minutes. I had to get the dog out. The house was not where I wanted it to be

for anybody to be viewing it. My house cleaning days are on Fridays. So Thursdays is definitely not gonna work. And I also had Jackson at home dunking on his hoop upstairs. So that just was not in the cards for us yesterday. So long story short, they're coming today. She's gonna preview the house before she brings the clients, but she's already planning on bringing them.

So she's coming to like make notes about the house, everything. So when she shows it, I'm like, listen, I really respect an agent like that. Somebody who's willing to come in, take notes on everything. So as they're walking their client through, they're like versed on the home. That's so smart.

So smart. Also, that is the, what you just described is why I have never been able to do it that way. And you, I can't even imagine your life. So I'm not even gonna try to compare mine because I just have one kid. I couldn't imagine trying to like wrangle that many children in that many kids bedrooms and just absolutely not.

I personally like before I sell this house, I want to be able to because the upstairs has carpet. I want to make sure that I change that out just because we do have animals and I don't want that to be like a point of, oh, well, we need to readdress. Like if say someone to make an offer or something, I don't want them to be like, we'll have them switch the carpet.

If I already move out and already switched the carpet, it can already be noted. It's already something I've done. It's already, you know what I mean? And then there's also, because I feel like people who don't have animals can smell animals in people's houses. So I wanna make sure that that's like not a thing. You know what

I mean? 100% outside of that, I woke up this morning and Jackson some at some point creeped into my bedroom. I don't know what time that happened, but woke up and he was there. And I'm like, at this point, you're basically like a full blown man. Like you're if you are as long as me go to your bed um so I go to Pilates this morning construction's still going on by my house and I'm like can you guys please just hurry the fuck up because it's been going on for a full blown year at this point getting breakfast come

back to the house and I'm like hey we gotta like hurry like you need to eat your breakfast you need to shower and I'm taking you to your dad's because I got way too much shit to do. Call my girlfriend and I'm like, hey, can I bring Birdie over there because she's gonna have to be in and out of the house and it's so inconvenient for a buyer to come. Me try to get the dog out for them to preview, then back in the house, then back out, like absolutely not.

So I meet her in the public's parking lot to get her extra crate out of the back of her car. Get back in my car and Somehow you know like the thing that you use just switch the gears like from park to reverse Yeah, what's that thing called? Uh the gear shifter? Yeah that thing. Okay Somehow ma'am in this short amount of time that I was getting this crate out of the car Somehow the leather part on the bottom, from like the metal part on the top became disconnected.

So when I went to go and put it in reverse, it would not reverse. Okay, so then what? So then I became a mechanic. Okay, we don't do that. I fixed it myself and was able to get going and about, come back home and have done three loads of laundry and somehow managed to also shower myself before I need to go to another appointment

after recording. So love this for me. Well, I hope that everything gets sold ASAP for you so then you don't have to worry about any of that and then you don't have to do the rushing around and all the things. It is a very much rush around. I also need to tell you that I started trying to watch about any of that and then you don't have to do the rushing around and all the things. It is a very much rush around. I also need to tell you that I started trying to watch the show on Netflix called Your Honor. Have you seen it on there?

I saw the preview, I did not, and I saw the like little thing on the screen. I was like, oh, I have to, I have to look at that. Okay, if you get sick to your stomach about anything like gory or blood, whatever, fast forward like one minute. Started watching this last night and one of the first scenes of this show is a kid laying in a bed, I guess with his girlfriend. She leaves the house, he leaves the house. He gets in the car, he's distracted texting on his phone and hits somebody on a motorcycle.

he's distracted texting on his phone and hit somebody on a motorcycle. He's injured, the person on the motorcycle is literally bleeding from every crevice and choking on his blood. And I don't know if I can like continue watching. Okay, well, if you can't continue watching, I don't know where that was going. If you cannot continue watching,

I started American Nightmare. So I'll be covering that. I got through episode one. Do you remember? And I did not recognize what this was about until so far into episode one. Do you remember that insane kidnapping story where the kidnappers like made them dress in like wetsuits and goggles? Wait, what?

No, I do not remember this. And they blamed the boyfriend and like said that he made it all up. But it actually did happen. It was in fact, a kidnapper that made them dress in like a wetsuit and stuff. Wait, why was this kid number making them dress in wetsuits and goggles? Did they have a fetish or something? I don't know because I didn't I got close to finishing but I didn't finish. I'll let you guys know it's on American Nightmare that's also

on Netflix. So wait, is this like a multiple part series? Like, yeah, I don't know if it's all I don't know if all the episodes are different cases. Let me look. But American Nightmare or if it's all about. Yes. Okay. So it is just the true story of one season, it's the home invasion and kidnapping in 2015, a couple is accused of staging the ordeal. So it's the entire thing is about this, but it comes, this is not new. Like if you followed it in real time, and I feel like we talked about it or covered it at some point. To be honest, if we talked about a kidnapping where somebody made people wear wetsuits and

goggles, I would remember that. And I can tell you, I do not have any recollection of that at all. Okay. Well, we should definitely watch and circle back because I was like, Elijah doesn't watch true crime anything. It just doesn't, it's not of any interest. So unless I put it on, so he's watching it and he's like,, he so he's watching it. And he's like, wait, so did he do it? And I was like, Oh, fuck, yeah, he definitely did

it. He definitely staged this whole thing. And then as it goes on, it jogged my memory that this was like a real life, like people thought this couple staged it and like was wasting resources, but they did it like the the kidnappers really did make them wear wetsuits and goggles and full scuba attire. I would just love to know what the mindset... I mean, obviously, you've got to be somewhat deranged to be kidnapping anybody in the first place, but to be wearing wetsuits and goggles and flippers and all these things, they're

something way bigger into this situation than just a kidnapping. 100%. Mental illness is definitely involved. Speaking of kidnapping, last night I was watching this video. I came across Elizabeth Smart's TikTok. She has a TikTok? There was only maybe six or eight videos on there. It's like Elizabeth Smart Official, I think. eight videos on there. It's like Elizabeth Smart Official, I think. And I just want to say that if I had faced as much adversity as she has in her life and to be that well spoken, I was so impressed. Talk about like making something out of your life after something so tragic has happened. The video was talking about, I believe it was June 5th. The one that I ran across was a June 5th video and it was the 20th or 22nd, if you want to call it like anniversary of her kidnapping. And she was talking about

just the communication that she had had with her mom and like what that is like every single year. had had with her mom and like what that is like every single year. And she's just so well spoken and put together. And I just feel like if I had been kidnapped in that way and lived the way that she had to live and go through the things that she had to go through, I just don't know that I would recover. I don't, I have to be honest with you. I like have to Google because I know her story ish. She was like kidnapped from her room, right? Yeah, she was kidnapped from her room and she lived with those people. I forget what her abductors or kidnappers names were,

but there was like a whole documentary on this. I watched it. Didn't you watch it? I feel like you did. No, I definitely did. I just I feel like so how long had she had been? How long had she been kidnapped for? Like, it was like a very, it was a very, very long time. I want to say it was like years.

Yeah, 21st anniversary of being rescued. Yeah, June 5. But I say all all of that to just make the point. I could not believe, I don't know what I was expecting, honestly, but I just couldn't believe how well spoken she was and just like how put together she was and composed. If that happened to me, honestly, I don't know that I would have had the resilience to like overcome that. It's really interesting too, because I think when you said you don't know what you were expecting, I guess, same, not that we don't expect people to fully recover from something

like that. But you think that such such, such extreme changes would have had to take place. Like, for example, I just read a book about World War II, right? The women were in, I guess it was 1939 to 1945. So six years, the emaciation, hair loss, eyebrow loss, weight loss, like walking skeletons. I guess I sort of pictured it to be like that for her, because I just looked up her account, and not that I expected her to still look like that, but that's what would still be in your head,

like still recovering. I don't know, I don't know. So when I saw that video- I guess long-term effects is what I'm trying to say. And that's what I had thought. I was like, wow, you know I'm trying to say. And that's what I had thought. I was like, wow, you know, for her to really be able to overcome

in the way that she's been able to overcome and also just have such a positive outlook on life after going through what she went through, that speaks to like how strong of a woman that she is because there is no possible way that I believe that I would recover from that. I think I would be in a deep depression hole somewhere. Like I don't know that I would ever recover from that. Same. All right, you better crank that AC because things are heating up at

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before we started recording. I got a locket from Will. It was the first, I think it was the first Mother's Day that I was divorced. And I think I was just so angry at that time. I was like, why the fuck are you giving me a locket? What is in there? Me and Elijah and then us with all the kids.

Wait, you got a picture to fit that small? The company does it. Okay, so this is where I'm going with it. So he gets me this locket and it has Jackson's initials on it. It was like engraved on the back, very thoughtful. He was always a very thoughtful gift giver. This was post divorce.

I opened it up and there's no photos in there. And I was pissed. I was like, first of all, you should have put photos in here. Second of all, how am I going to figure out how to get photos of this size into this thing? I know that companies probably didn't use to do this when like lockets were super popular like back in the day. Because I feel like I might have had a locket when I was in like elementary school. I always wanted one my whole childhood.

Oh, you did? Yeah. And I never got one. So this goes back to your childhood dreams now. But the Alasha and the kids got this for me for Mother's Day. I'm pretty sure though, back in the day, people just had to like cut and make photos work and lock it. But now if you use a lock or you purchase a lock it from a lock it company, a lot of times they will come with like a little QR code or whatever

and you can scan it. And then you can send the photos to them and they'll send you the right size for your actual lock it. Yeah, this specific company I think will send them to you or they'll just put like if you send them the pictures, they'll just put it in for you. Well, I love that whoever got you that sent in the photos. Yeah, it was Elijah Scott. That that didn't happen for me.

Well, now he knows now. Will knows in the future if he was to give you another locket to or Jackson, for example, wants to give you a locket that they put the pictures in it and I'll send them if you ask will to message me I can send them a link to this company. To that company actually really like that locket. It's very cute. Very chic. I feel like you could put it on a longer chain and layer it or that would be you. Yeah, because I this one's permanent. So once

I take I'm gonna have this one taken permanent. So once I take I'm gonna have this one taken off. And then I'll be able to layer it. And I think it'll look nicer. Whatever happened to and maybe this was like a 2006 2007 2008 fad, where you were like the white tank tops are like a black tank top and you were like all the different sizes of necklaces. So it was like, you had a long one, I had one that was like a black tank top and you wore like all the different sizes of necklaces. So it was like you had a long one. I had one that was like a rosary and it had a cross on it and it was longer. My dad bought it from like a fancy jewelry place and I rocked that ship for a really long time. I have no idea where it is now. But it's like you wore them long and then you would have like one

that was like a little bit above that and then like one above long and then you would have like one that was like a little bit above that and then like one above that and then one above that. Oh, like they were all attached? No, they were all like different. You got them from like different places, but you had to get different sizes so they would like layer the right way. I feel like no one wears really long necklaces anymore though. Nobody wears really long necklaces.

That was such a trend. I don't remember like the individual ones. I know that there were ones that were like, one necklace that had like the layers. And then I also remember just the long necklaces. And I don't know what happened to that trend. I feel like a lot of like, people who have the boho style, like the more, what is the word? Like it's giving free people, will still do the wall necklaces and certain people can still pull it off and it looks so cute. I don't know that I could pull it off, but I've seen certain people do it. And I'm like, okay, that's cute.

I can get behind that. I think that was the vibes that I was going for back in about 2008. I was becoming a woman graduating high school and I just, you know, felt like I needed to have all of these necklaces. And it made me feel like I looked like a little bit older. Now I wear pretty much all very similar length necklaces. And I feel like that's more of the trend now. And

then do you also remember the stack bracelets? Oh, my god. Yes. I remember those. Of course. Yeah, yeah. What a one tonight, they would have like one charm on it or something. Or what about remember Alex and Annie, though, the like bangles? Oh, yeah. I was worried about them. I was worried about them because I was like those bangles like once they're not in anymore than what but they actually started coming out with some really nice

like cute stuff like their new collections are actually kind of cute. So maybe we bring Alex and Annie back. Maybe we bring it back. Right now. I have the three permanent bracelets on which I'm I'm big on the permanent jewelry situation. I feel like you always kind of feel put together, you shower and then you like still have shit on. Yeah, I agree. Do you remember, I feel like this was like when we first started podcasting and I maybe didn't talk about it, but I feel like I did at some point that I would take everything off, like all my jewelry off, all my earrings off and stuff before I went to bed.

I don't know at what point of my life that that changed, but I haven't removed my earrings in like years at this point. These never come off ever. I did not get the permanent necklace and I'm kind of like debating if I should do that, but they're very expensive. Well, my friend had a pop-up shop, so that's why I got it.

And I already have three permanent anklets and two permanent bracelets. But then I will say with the necklace, because I do layer my necklaces, sometimes these ones twist or whatever one, I just put this one on today. Like any one that I add will twist with it. And I don't love that because they're the

same length. If they're not the same length, they don't twist as much. So Did anybody else's parents not let them wear anklets or red nail polish growing up? No, that was just Todd Chrisley. That was solely Todd Chrisley. Okay, so this is I can't believe I'm telling this. I never allowed to wear red polish on my fingers or on my toes. That was not a thing. I did not get red polish on my fingers or my toes

until I was well out of the house over 18 years old. So how did topics like this with the shoes and the nail polish and the things and all the rules, how did things like that become household knowledge, right? Like, did you come home from school one day and you were like, I want this? And he was like, absolutely not. We don't allow that in our house.

Or was it like, once you got to a certain age, it was like, here's the list. You do not have red nail polish. You only wear white sneakers. Like, what was like, what was that about? I don't really feel like it was a list per se. I feel like it was more I would ask to do something and then just be told, no, like we don't do that. And then it was just an understood

like I never fought my parents back if my parents said no, there was never I never inquired to have a conversation or an explanation. It was just like, no was good enough for me. So I just never asked again. I will say that's a there's a big difference in the generations, right? Like our generation, I feel like gave less obviously, we will we got labeled, I feel more when we gave pushback to our parents, like we were the rebellious kind,

right? Like we were, if we wanted pushback to our parents, like we were the rebellious kind, right? Like we were, if we wanted to have our own voice or we pushed back on our parents. But today, I feel like some, and this is a hot take maybe, but I am sick of arguing with my kids, right? Like if I say no, and I give you an explanation for why, I'm not telling you anymore. Like I, this is what it is, right? No. And so part of me is like, I wish not telling you anymore. Like I, this is what it is, right now. And so part of me is like, I wish that there was a middle ground where some of the things that applied to us could be done for our kids, but I still want them to have like a

voice or a read, like I feel like an explanation, or a reason, but that's it, like,, Lux and Creed will fight me. And I have to look at them and I'm like, okay, this is my answer, this is why, and I'm not bringing it up again. Please do not ask me again, that kind of thing. So I wish that kind of what you said, if my parents said no, that was good enough for me,

I wish that was the case today for certain situations. Not all. I feel like kids, regardless of what parenting style you choose to raise your children, kids today are just so different than whenever we grew up. Also, it's very much personality styles. Like just because I was no, and that was good enough for me,

doesn't mean that that applied to all of my siblings. Like some of them would get pushback and be like, why, why, why? And me, I'm be like, why, why, why? And me, I'm just like, okay, I was told no. But the craziest thing about it was my mom wore red nail polish on her fingers and her toes. And Julie wore red nail polish. And so seeing the two women that were in my life wearing this red fingernail polish, and I was never allowed, I just didn't understand it. And my dad explained that it's for adults. It's not for little girls

to wear red nail polish. And so when Savannah was born years later, they had had her in the house, and I believe it was me, Kyle and Chase outside playing and we were in the neighbor's yard had come back home and Savannah was just an infant. And I walked into their bedroom and they had painted her fingernails red. And I bawled my eyes out because I had wanted red fingernails for so long. And I would sneak like when I would go to my mom's parents, my grandmother would paint my fingernails red and before my dad would get me back, they would take it off. See I don't know how I feel because what the fuck are you supposed to do? First of all, my first thought was maybe he said no to the red because it's like, I mean, I don't agree with it, but because it's for adults, right?

Like it's more of an adult or whatever. What was the explanation for that when you started crying? Because that would have been devastating as a child. Well, I think that he also felt a sense of devastation when he saw it. And to be honest, now as an adult looking back on it, I have a completely different perspective because I was like, well, if she can have it, I should be able to have it. And I don't know why she can have it. And she's just like a newborn baby and I'm eight. So like, why can't I have it because I'm grown, you know? Yeah, now I look back on it. And I'm like,

that's probably the only fucking polish that Julie had. And he must have gotten nearly willing and decided that he was going to paint her fingernails and they were it just happened to be red. I don't think that it was like anything malicious. No, of course. But then he probably realized, oh shit, but why even paint an infant's nails at all? Who knows? You know, my ears were pierced when I was like six weeks, six weeks out the womb.

I mean, I know if Valley wears versus clothes, like she looks like a boy, but if I put girl clothes on verse, he'd look like a girl, you know what I mean? So maybe, maybe that was back then you wanted boys to look like boys and you wanted girls to look like girls. So maybe that's the case. You know, I don't, I don't know, because I always also, my dad made sure that I looked the part as a girl. Like I had the three piece clothing outfit with the headband that matched or the bonnet or like whatever

it was, the matching socks with the lace around them, the pristine white kids. I looked like I came out of an Oshkosh or Jimbery magazine. And you did. And I did. Okay. The energy around the WNBA is soaring. We are huge fans of the WNBA over here. If you have listened to the latest episodes, you know we are Caitlin, Clark, Stans,

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specifically on TikTok, because you get paid for views. And so they're showing that. And there's their parents, like there's children living in the homes. Whose hoarding is this? The parents hoarding or the kids hoarding or the collective hoarding? I mean, in my opinion, I would say parents are the beginning, like you lead by example. So the parents are hoarding, the kids are living in it. So I know, and I wrote notes on this, like I know that everyone's circumstances are different, right? Like

You know Lindsey you and I talked about the hoarding on sins of our parents in my opinion on that documentary There's no reason why two adult parents and a teenager should not have a hoarding situation in their home When all three of them were perfectly functioning and able to take care of their things. So I wholeheartedly believe that, you know, this is a problem, right? Like, so then anyways, I'm scrolling on TikTok and there's a creator named Bunny Hadea, right?

I follow her on TikTok and she came, she's a product of this sort of trauma. Her parents or her mother was a hoarder and she has no contact with her mom. She had no contact with her mom. She had no working toilets in her house, like nothing like that, and strictly cut her off initially because of this.

So she was so embarrassed, but she also had to keep it a secret, right? Like that was like a deep, dark secret growing up. Her parents weren't like parading it around. And so she was saying that this is a form of neglect and abuse. And like I said, she had no hot water. And I just thought that was really interesting that we are. So are you taking the funds that you're

getting from the views on TikTok to clean the house? Because I don't think that's the case. I think they're showing it for views and it's never getting better. So these kids are forced to live in these filthy conditions and that actually creates trauma. Like I don't know if anyone's watched Hoarders, but Elijah and I have watched every single episode of Hoarders and it actually creates trauma, which is fascinating to me because I would have never, I guess first and foremost, I didn't realize that hoarding was a mental situation. Like I didn't know it was like a mental health issue. And then- What I was going to say.

Yeah, go ahead. The, on these TikTok videos, because I have not seen them, I do believe that there is a distinction between hoarding and filth. But it's both. It's the combination of both. Because a lot of times with hoarding, the byproduct of hoarding is filth. Correct.

Right? Yeah. But like, what are these people hoarding? When you're watching these videos, like just describe to me like what's in the room. I don't watch them. That's the thing is that people who recognize this as a form of neglect and abuse are not supporting them. So we're

refusing to watch them. But bunny had day, she's a content creator, she brought awareness to me, which is where I should reacted to a video. That's how I found out about it. But basically, the whole idea here is to not go watch them because it's giving them views and paying them. And that's not fair to the children because these are parents, right? Like if you live in a certain, if you live in a, you know, a hoarders sort of environment, it should be a secret. I mean, you should ask people for help maybe, but that's, that's the extent of it.

You don't, you don't parade that around. That's embarrassing. That's humiliating. That's trauma. That's trauma on top of trauma for the children. Also, at what point do you decide, okay, I'm going to maybe clean this hoarding situation for views? That would be a good idea. Well, okay. So I just looked up the definition of hoarding and it says, having so many things that

you cannot manage the clutter where you live and find it difficult or impossible to throw things away. You might hoard because you feel a strong need to keep things, but your connection to those things cause you distress. So it truly is some form of a mental illness. And I think sometimes for people who are not hoarders like us, it's easy for us to say, oh, go and clean those things because we don't have that mental illness. Like I am a big, I grew up going back to growing up, my dad took around a black trash bag and anything that was in his fucking path of walking, it went into that black trash bag, did not care, did not care how much it cost, did not care who it belonged to. Like if you were told to get it up, you get it up. And if not, it's

gone away. I've done that. I've literally done that to my kids. I'm so sick of it, I told Elijah, we don't have the kids this weekend, we just have the babies, we're going into the playroom, and we're getting rid of stuff. I'm tired of the mess I can't and I can only my my office is like the messiest room in the house. But I can only take so much of it for so long. Right. So like, I mean, it gets messy right back up, but I have to clean it to be able to make that mess. And then

a couple days or a week will go by and then I got a clean and then I got it's it's more deep clutter. But it's not it's not hoarding. It's stuff that I love I use and I just don't put it back where it belongs. I think there's a difference. I I'm I'm sad because my mom was like your dad when it came to a clean house, like even though my mom had her own situation, my mom, I think the only form of control my mom had was a spotless house. So also I think my mom had an eating disorder,

but that's a whole other can of worms. She, I wasn't allowed to have toys out anywhere. There was not allowed to be toys anywhere. My toys belonged to my room. They belonged to my room. They belonged to nowhere else. And I actually never sat in the, I didn't like to be in the living room

or anything like that when my mom and her boyfriend or husband or whatever was home. I wasn't allowed to have stuff out on the table. I wasn't allowed to have anything. Like, I mean, I'm talking like you needed to see the streaks from the carpet, on the tables, all that. So I think- I think there is a happy medium. Yeah, here. And

unfortunately, I feel like when you grow up, you grew up in a home like that, right? So some of that you took with you. And some of the doing now. And then some of it because you didn't like some aspects of it, I'm sure you changed a little bit of it. Or just nature, right? Because like, I would say I it, I'm sure you changed a little bit of it. Or just nature, right? Cause like, I would say I'm kind of messy, but I'm not dirty,

but I'm not like over the top clean, right? Like whatever. I am over the top clean. And I grew up in a home that was over the top clean. And I don't know how to truly fully function without being in an environment like that. So I say all of this to say you have to be very careful with the way that you raise your children

in extreme situations all across the board. Because I think the healthiest thing in raising kids is having that happy medium. They shouldn't be afraid to bring a toy downstairs to play in the living room if they want to play with it, but they also need to know that it has a place and it goes back home. Right. Yeah. I just, I feel bad for these kids. I hope if you guys are watching morning videos that are of parents, it's one thing to watch it if there's no children involved, but if there's children involved, let's, let's not support those.

Completely unrelated note. I don't know if you know this about me, but I am a big fan of women's college basketball. No, I had no idea. I had no idea. Like a huge fan of women's college basketball. And I just, truly I became more of a fan of women's college basketball when I started becoming a viewer of TikTok,

but also when these college athletes could start being paid via brand deals. Yeah. I think it changed the game and college sports altogether, not just women's college basketball, but just in general. Did they ever say why they weren't allowed to do brand deals before? I don't know. It was a rule with the NCAA, which Tamiya's insane because you have to think about college tuition and people getting scholarships that might not cover the entire fucking ride or people that come from poverty or, you know,

middle-class, you're not giving them an opportunity to stay in school if there's financial issues or other things. I don't love that. I don't understand how anyone was ever even allowed to say that they couldn't do that. I think that it's so great with the rise of social media and it becoming so prevalent that they are allowed to get paid now. And if I had a child who was a college athlete and playing at one of these large universities where people could go into the bookstore and buy a jersey with my child's last name on it, and my child was making nothing off of that, I would feel a type of way.

Oh, okay. I never even thought about that. I never even thought about that. So people buy college athlete jerseys? Yeah. So like if you go on a college campus and you are watching, Jackson has tons of jerseys from guys that play at Clemson, for example. Okay. That's probably why, because you're in the South and in Delaware, like nobody's buying athletes jerseys at DSU where I graduated from. So to have, let's just say, K Club Nick plays for Clemson.

Jackson's wearing that Jersey all around with that kid's last name on it. And they make nothing off of that, but the university's making everything off of that. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. You know, it's just wrong. So I really got into women's college basketball this last season, just specifically,

I already watched it because, but I became a bigger viewer of it because of Caitlin Clark. Then when the draft went down, I just need to tell you, I was on Instagram the night that the draft was going down and the discrepancy between the salaries of women's basketball salaries and men's I could not believe.

No, so I immediately looked it up and I was sick to my stomach honestly it. I'm so sick of people, especially on TikTok, just because you brought it up, especially on TikTok, doing this whole like unfollow influencers, don't support their brands, don't support this, don't support that. Why don't you go unfollow the male athletes that make $12 million and ask them to show their outrage about the women's salary discrepancy. Okay, so from an article from MSNBC, Caitlin Clark was the number one draft pick set to make $76,000 in base salary, which is not her entire compensation.

That's for her rookie year. her entire compensation. That's for her rookie year. That is significantly less than the $12.2 million for the NBA's most recent number one pick. $76,000 versus $12.2 million. Where is the outrage for this? Everyone's worried about the wrong shit. Everyone's worried about Kim K and what she's doing, Kylie Jenner and what she's doing. Where is the outrage? And why are the men okay with this? I feel like the male athletes, the football players, the basketball players, the MLB players, where where are they? Because you're okay with this.

So I had actually had the conversation with Trent, like a while back about this, because I was outraged whenever I saw it. I said, how can you like that? You aren't even compared. There's no comparison. None. She could go out and do a regular job and make close to that. But she is in the WNBA. And that's what she's making. And he kind of broke it down for me. And he said, Well, you've got to consider like the viewership.

Because there's nobody focusing on the fucking viewership. Nobody's advertising the WNBA the same way that they're advertising for the NBA. When you walk into a footlocker, you don't see jerseys. You don't see product lines of the WNBA. You don't see Caitlin Clark shoes. You see LeBron, you see Jordan, you see Steph Curry, you see all these fucking people. And you don't see women's shoes. You don't see women product lines. That's the problem. I don't give

a fuck about the viewership that Trent's talking about. So me and him are gonna have to fight because he why are we not focusing? This is a consumer problem again. I'm getting mad because it's the same conversation about Gypsy Rose. It is the media and the consumer. We are not having enough outrage. We are not having we're not doing enough outcry. We are not making this a big deal. We are worried about what Kim K is doing. So this is a consumer and a media problem.

Okay, well, I'm going to continue telling you sorry. So no, no, no, I feel like the outrage is justified. It should be. And at least you're big enough to raise your voice about it. I mean, I'm not, but I'm just going to sit here and read off the facts. So it says, Clark is an athlete who's already broken scoring and viewership record, signed big sponsorship deals and pushed ticket sales through the roof. So the wage gap between her and her male peers has

sparked understandable outrage. I also wonder, and I don't know what the answer to this is, but because they can now be paid in college, I would love to know what her brand partnerships in college were in comparison to the WNBA. It's still whatever she's doing is still not going to the fact that it's not equal her base pay her base salary should be should match that of the number one draft picked up number one draft pick up the NBA right the? The males. If she makes more in partnerships and all of that, oh well. And you know what, if they start paying them equally,

people will start and putting attention on that people will start watching them. So they will be equal. Coffee Converse podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Let's face it, sometimes multitasking can be overwhelming. Like when your favorite podcast is playing and the person next to you is talking and your car fan is blasting, all while you're trying to find the perfect parking spot. But then again, sometimes multitasking is easy, like quoting with Progressive Insurance. They do the hard work of comparing rates so you can find a great rate that works for you, even if it's not with them. Give their nifty comparison tool a try and you might just find getting the rate and coverage

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or situations prices vary based on how you buy. Okay, so on another article, because I did a pretty big deep dive on this, NBC News says that she will earn $338,000 over four years, according to WNBA's collective bargaining agreement. Under the 2004 WNBA rookie scale for the number one through four draft picks, she'll earn the base salary of $76,000 for her first year, $78,000 for her first year, 78,000 for her second year, and 85,000 for the third year with a fourth year option of 97,000. Okay. But you know what this is? You know what this really boils down to is that it's not just a salary gap and a wage gap amongst professional athletes. It's also athletes. It's also an entire, like a global or probably national issue of the salary gap for everybody, right? For women, women versus men. So if the female athletes start having to be paid, matching what their male counterparts are being paid, they're also going to expect for women in

everyday life to be paid matching salaries. And nobody actually wants to do that. Nobody actually wants women and men to be paid equally. And that's the biggest problem. And I know we don't get political on this podcast, but I'm going to 100% back this tweet. President Biden tweeted, women in sports continue to push new boundaries and inspire us all. But right now we're seeing that even if you're the best, women are not paid their fair share. It's time that we give our daughters the same opportunities as our sons and ensure women are paid what they deserve.

1000%. I'm not your go-to for political things, but also, I mean, he could, Victor was the number one male pick for the Nam Ye. And he could split that in half. I mean, $6 million and $6 million. Why can't they be paid equal? I understand that there's a lot more that goes into it with like, you know, investors and owners and everything else.

But why are we not putting more of our money into female played sports? I don't under I'm not understanding. So actually, Kristin just sent us in real time. It says Los Angeles May 13th, 2024. Skims is the official underwear partner of the WNBA. 2024, Skims is the official underwear partner of the WNBA. And in a quote from Kim, she said, I'm proud to launch this new WNBA campaign starring such an incredible cast of athletes championing women and women in sports is incredibly important to Skims. I support that. I love that Kim is recognizing this. This is a real issue and her being a woman and coming from a female dominated

family empire. I think that that was the right move for her and for skims and just across the board that is going to start to between these articles about Caitlin Kim partnering with the WNBA I hope that Kim continues to partner with you know, people who I know that she has skims men now But I think the focus needs to be on women right now. I 100% can back that I will be reposting that I love that Actually in this article we can link this for y'all because you can see the skims WNBA campaign the video the product images and

Everything so we'll make sure that we link that up. Okay, I need to tell you, so we have baseball is gonna be over on Monday, officially over, basketball will be over on Monday. But that being said, I wanna tell you how much I love conversations in my 30s, right? Like conversations revolving around birthday parties,

what we're reading. I had a mom come up to me the other day at baseball and she's like, so are we going to go see the movie when we're done reading the book? And it's just, I'm obsessed with it because never in my entire life have I ever been like, I feel like in my twenties, it's always like, what is everybody doing, but not in a sense of like healthy things, right? Like we're talking about like the gossip and like, in people's business, where now it's like, I don't give a fuck what you if you and your husband fought yesterday, and you I know for a fact that you're cheating on

him, but you post this long ass caption on Instagram that don't have shit to do with me. What book are you reading? You know what I mean? Like, I don't give a fuck. I think because as time goes on, we all know that no fucking relationship is perfect. We all know that none of our kids are fucking perfect. They're all we love them. But some of them are bad. And you know, everyone has bad dates. Like we just don't care about that shit anymore. You know, it's so crazy. And I used to think that it was based off of

personality, not age with stuff like that. But I don't think so now. I think that it definitely has to do with your age and your life phase and the things that you feel are important. You've kind of weeded out all of the the shit in your 20s. And once you get to 30, it's like, OK, what you do with your man and your kids and your friends that I don't like over there is not my fucking business. So I'm not going to involve myself in that or quite frankly converse about that.

I've got bigger fish to fry and more shit to do. And I only want to have and be a part of conversations that are productive and something that can be helpful in my life or somebody else's life. Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, I used to be one of the biggest gossippers. Like, I mean, me and Kristin, me and you, me and V, like, Yeah. everyone, we like, what is everyone else doing everyone in everyone else's business, but I have seen also like 40 people in their 40s, late 40s, mid 40s,

who are doing things like still doing that. So I don't think it's like age and maturity. I just think that it is phases don't think it's like age and maturity. I just think that it is phases of life for people and where you're at. I mean, if you're happy, you're not worried about what other, you know what I mean? So I think that- Some of it also has to do

with competitive personalities though too. I think, cause you see it in the blogging world all the time. It's like the keeping up with the Joneses. But I do feel like once you arrive and I participated in that in my 20s. I don't give a fuck now. Yeah, I participated in that now. I'm just like, you go girl like you do you I ain't doing that today. But like you go ahead and do you okay. Um, but I do see a lot. I

feel like the comparison game in the blogging community and I do feel like it's a little bit catty in that area of life and very high school. I don't say that to be offensive to anybody. I just I very much see it and I hear a lot of things about that community of girls and women and how they conduct themselves and I just don't want to be a part of that shit. Agreed. I mean, I will say though, and I've said this before in other times of my life, like different phases,

different seasons. The only time I'm worried about other people talking about other people doing anything that engaging in that sort of behavior is when I was not happy. I don't care, right? Like now I'm I don't care. Well, I think when you are when your own cup is full in your own life, you don't have to worry about other people's cup. I mean, I'm worried about if I'm gonna rescue these pigs, right?

Like this woman's trying to rehome her one-year-old pigs that are little besties and she wants them to stay together. And I'm like, okay, am I gonna rescue them or not? Cause they need a new home. It's like the ASPCA meets farm animals. So like, that's what I'm worried about. I don't give a fuck about who fell out with who I don't give a fuck about. He said this about her and now they're posting on Instagram together. I don't care. Instagram together, I don't care. Don't care either. Outside of that, we have a couple of listener topics. I don't know how many we're gonna be able to get through on this episode, but one of the women in our Facebook group said, hey fam, I recently saw a photo with Isaac's hair

dyed and I just wanted some feedback and advice. After approval from my ex-husband and months of my daughter begging me for colored hair, I finally gave in to giving my daughter pink purple hair. I opted into only around the face frame. It's kind of faded out in a couple of weeks right before school starts again. She absolutely loves it and I love it too for her but part of me feels sad inside because I'm not ready to see her grow into her own person but also the judgment from other moms and people. Side note, my daughter is six years old.

I let my kids do temporary color in their hair when they're young. I don't care. It's hair, it's going to grow out, you can cut it off. And as long as it's not touching the scalp, which that can also be ask your hair, your hairstylist truly because I don't care. But some people are concerned about getting into the bloodstream if it's touch if it touches the scalp. I don't care. I think it's a form of self expression. It's temporary. You can cut it out, it'll grow out, it'll fade out. I just don't care. Like that's just not there are bigger if your daughter your six year old daughter having color in her hair

is the the worst thing that you've ever done parenting. I think that you are doing pretty damn well. I think this also goes back to the last topic of, you know, being in your thirties and probably in my twenties, when I was a younger mom, I probably would have been a little bit more conservative on the idea of that and being like, no, you're not grown enough to do it. But now as I have grown as a person, I'm like, he's a person too. And if he chose to do that, obviously it'd be a conversation I would have to have with his dad. You know, we're very open and fluid with stuff like that and we don't keep secrets. I'm not going to make him show up over to Will's with like bleached out hair or something

and then get cast out. Like I'm not signing up for that. But at the same time, if it was something that he truly, truly wanted, I'm probably just not going to say no, because I have bigger things to care about. Especially for kids that get frequent haircuts, specifically for boys, it'll get cut off probably before they go back to school. I know Isaac's will, unless he continues. Also, Isaac's about to be 15.

Lincoln colored his hair one time and never wanted to do it again. So we got that out of the system and Lux has been asking me, you know, I think if we did it once or twice, no, Lux has, we've done Lux's hair. We've done like the chalky one that you like spray. We've done colors and they grow out of it.

And then he just recently started asking. So maybe for the summer, I'll let him do it. But like, who cares? It's temporary. I know a lot of moms that that have girls that want to do the I don't know if you remember this, but it was like maybe back when I was in college or late high school where people wanted to put like the pink like little streaks in their hair. Yeah, I did that. Do you remember this? Yeah, I did that. Okay, so I feel like I got that at some point or maybe I put like some pink extensions in like on the side or something so that I actually wasn't touching my actual hair. I did do that, but it was over a summer, I think. And one of the moms at Jackson School

was talking about her daughter wanting pink hair. And she said, you're not gonna do pink hair during the school year, but if you wanna do pink hair over the summer, then we'll dye that stuff pink for the whole summer. And then when you go back to school, you're gonna have regular hair, cause I don't want you to be a distraction

in the classroom. To me, I don't really view that kind of stuff as a distraction. I feel like it's just an expression of whatever you want to do. And, you know, somebody when we were growing up, it might have been a discrepancy. When we were growing up, it might have been a distraction more than today only because we it wasn't as, as open and allowed to do express ourselves the same way that we are today. I think in 2024, things are a lot more accepted and things are more

diverse. Whereas where I was growing up, if someone had pink hair, it was like, like, you're totally right. Yeah. So today, I don't think it would be a distraction. I don't think people would will judge you as much as you think. And if they do, fuck them. Tell them to go read a book. Go read a book.

No, I think back to whenever we were growing up, and I think you're totally right, because I don't even remember, I mean, we wore like Umbro shorts and stuff like that to school, but I don't remember athleisure really being what it is today. Jackson has not worn like anything other than gym shorts to school for like years at this point.

You said athleisure for him? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Lincoln wears only athleisure. I don't feel like that was as common when we were growing up. Oh no. Like you had an you had an actual like outfit. Okay. Yeah. Most athleisure was like softy shorts and Adidas slides.

Oh, yeah. Or remember like umbrose? We never wore umbrose. But my Lux will wear umbrose until the day he dies. Like he will live in umbrose. God, I love that kid. That's your kid. He's your child. He, he's so funny. He's like, before he went to his dad's yesterday, he's like, um, so when, so

when do the pigs come home? And I'm like, we don't know if we're getting them, but he, he wants to be a part of farm life. Like he loves, he wears his muck boots, his rain boots, his farming boots. He was wearing them to school with his eyes. I just, I love, I really love your kids. I love your son. I love them. I want to get them together. I was telling Kristen not that long ago. It was probably a couple of weeks ago. I'm like, I don't,

maybe we could take them to a game or an amusement park or just anything because I feel like. We are an amusement park. No, a hundred percent. We're, we're the fucking circus. But it would be fun to take them to go do something. I know I would absolutely love that. All right, you better crank that AC because things are heating up at DraftKings casino. The excitement is endless. The vibes are right and the cash prizes could be huge. Play hundreds of

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that expire in 168 hours. See casino.draftkings.com slash get 50 for eligibility terms and responsible gambling resources. Okay, we've got one more listener topic that we can cover before the end of this episode because we got to get to the foul plays. But this woman says, I recently found out my soon to be ex-husband has been living a double life

the entirety of our 15 year relationship, multiple long-term relationships and one night stands locally and across country. He was just slinging dick everywhere y'all. All while I was home taking care of our three kids, one from a previous relationship. I only found out because his ex-brus friend felt I should know why he broke their friendship after We got married a few years ago. I thought there's so much to unpack and I could keep going

I will spare you all the extras the first few weeks were easy since I had the fuck him mentality Now things are setting settling in and this hat ass hat is living in my basement I am struggling 24 7 my mind just picks apart the past 15 years. I guess I am looking for advice on how to move on and work through this for myself and my kids. How do I stop living my life and reliving this hell every single day and learn to trust people and myself again? I'm so sick of this consuming me and being hurt and angry.

Please don't suggest working through the marriage. Number one, I would not suggest that. Sometimes I think that things are far beyond repair and I believe that they probably should have never been married in the first place. And I know that's a very steep statement to make, but I'm gonna take this back to the documentary of Ashley Madison and that man cheating on his

wife from like even before he was ever married to her just like in the relationship. If this has been going on the entirety of your marriage, at what point do you say, could I possibly get this an old because I was in this under false pretense that didn't exist? Well, too, what makes you think just now it would stop, right? Like if you work it out, I also, it would be hard for me to ever trust him again. So I do believe that there are certain relationships who can work through infidelities. I do believe that, but it's not for everyone. And in this particular situation, just based on what we know, I don't think that this is

worth working out. How do I stop living my life, reliving this hell every single day? Honestly, I don't have any advice for you other than it's going to take time. It's going to hurt. I also think him living in the basement is probably one of the least healthy ways to move forward past this. That's what I was going say because, you know, I didn't really wanna say it because I don't know

what their financial situation is. So I was a little hesitant to say anything, but I do think if he could come up with other possible living arrangements and get him out of your space, even though it is the basement and it's a separate space, his car is probably still on a driveway. You're probably seeing him way more often

than you ever would if he was living somewhere else. And I do think that there is a lot of healing of just being in your own space, doing things on your own time, and allowing yourself to heal outside of the presence of that person, even though they're not directly there in your bedroom, their presence is still there.

Agreed. And I wouldn't like that feeling of knowing that he's in my house and I have to kind of operate sort of on eggshells, right? Like I just don't, but again, to your point, we don't know what anyone's financial situation is, but if it's a him problem, like he can't afford to live on his own,

that's not a you problem, baby girl. That is not a you problem. I also just want to call out the point where she says in this story, all while I was home taking care of our home and three kids, one from a previous relationship. I'm a firm believer if you are bringing kids into a situation, the other person is aware that you're bringing a child into that situation. I don't believe that you should be taking a relationship to the point of marriage if that person's not willing to take on that one child that you had before the marriage took place as their own

while you're living life together. That doesn't mean that they're taking the place of the biological parent, but I don't, there's a reason that she identified that that was like separate, you know? Is it hers though? It might be her child from a previous relationship. Right. But what I'm saying is that didn't necessarily need to be identified because if you are in a solid marriage with somebody, three kids is three kids. It doesn't matter if it's three kids and ones from the previous marriage. It's all y'all's damn kids. Agreed. Agreed. You know what I'm

saying? Like I don't feel like Elijah would be like, Oh, well her kids. No, he's never done that. He's literally never done that. If he's talking to people who have no idea who we are from a can of can of paint, he just says like they're all his kids. I mean, obviously when he first started his job, people are doing the math and they were like, wait, if you're, if the oldest at the time was 13 and you're 24, he was like, they were like, wait, and then, and then he had to be like, okay, well it's Kale's kids. And obviously, but yeah, no, now like, you'll just tell people they're all ours if they don't know who we are. I mean, we don't have to specify if people know who we are.

100%. And on that note, we have foul play. Foul play. Hi, beauties. I've listened to every single episode and have enjoyed the forward progression in each of you. I moved to Tampa a year ago, and for the first three months, y'all were my only friends.

Oh. Here we go. I got sick a few years back and had to take antibiotics. As a result of the antibiotics, I got a yeast infection. I went to my local pharmacy and got the over-the-counter medication to take orally. It didn't work. By the time the infection had moved to my butthole,

even more, the smell was horrendous. I mean, foul to the third degree. I've never heard of this. I've never heard of an. I've never heard of it. What? Moving to your asshole. I could not get into my GP for over 24 hours. So I got on. So I put on cotton panties and jeans to try to help hide the smell. I went to a big box store to grab some external and internal medicine to find some relief. I felt better and was, I felt it was a better idea than spoon feeding my vagina yogurt while I waited to find some relief. I felt better and was I felt it was

a better idea than spoon feeding my vagina yogurt while I waited to see the doctor. Honestly, wouldn't that just like grow more like wouldn't it just turn into bread? What? No, it's not going to turn into bread. And before you keep going, my nanny used to say, like if you ever get a yeast infection or whatever, when I was growing up, she would be like, oh, you have to sit in a bathtub of yogurt. Yeah.

Can you ask her and circle back with us, did she ever sit in a thing of yogurt? I'll ask her. Yeah, I need to know. Yeah. It was a hot summer day and I was baking hot butt bread in my blue jeans. Oh, she said that, okay. I quickly procured the medicine and some

other things I needed. By this time I could smell myself through my blue jeans. I got to the till checking me out was a familiar nice young woman. I hustled to grab my belongings and dash after paying the cashier seeing I was rushed bent down to assist me in picking up my bags. Her head was only a foot away from my crotch. She got a whiff of my disgusting swamp crotch. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She got a whiff of my disgusting swamp crotch. But raw yeast infection. Wow. She jerked her head back. One slap the taste out of her mouth. She turned her body and gagged not a fake gag but one from deep in her gut.

My body get hot and my face turn red. Look at me with absolute disgust as I grabbed my final bag to make the dash to my car. Obviously after the butt swamp cleared I avoided her checkout line from there on out. Have a fantastic day. I would have never gone back to that store ever, a day in my life. First of all, hold on, I'm trying to call Nanny

because I'm gonna try to get her to tell us what to do for a yeast infection because I swear this is what the bitch will say. Hold on. Hello. Hey. Hey. I'm busy, but I need to ask you, Hold on. Hello. Hey. Hey.

I'm busy, but I need to ask you, when I was little and if like you ever got a yeast infection, what do you do? If you get a yeast infection when I was little, like what do you do? You put them in, I never did have any, and I don't think you ever did, but you put yogurt in the bathtub. Okay, thank you. All right, okay, bye. She's so nonchalant about you just put yogurt in the bathtub. You just put yogurt in the bathtub.

What does that look like? Are you filling the entire bottom of the bathtub with yogurt? Are you just putting a dollop in some water? What does that look like? I'm gonna need I don't know what she just said. I never had one and I don't believe you did either. Wait, I have never heard of like, again, I've never had a yeast infection. So I don't know.

You've never had one? No, I don't even know what it is really. I've had a UTI. So, no, it's not the same. So like I, before I did Accutane, I was on antibiotics a lot or I get strep throat pretty often. So I would get on antibiotics and it will cause because it disrupts the bacteria and the pH and all of that. And so you'll get an overgrowth of yeast because a certain amount of yeast is healthy and normal. That's across the board. But once there's like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like a disruption, it can cause the yeast to overgrow. And so from that, I guess I've never heard of it being, maybe if you wipe wrong or I'm not entirely sure, but I guess-

I know somebody who gets yeast infections and the doctor told her that it's not necessarily like anything that she's doing wrong. Some people's bodies just produce more use than others. So they're more prone to getting them. I've just never heard of a yeast infection going to a butthole and like what was that smell? I never have had like I've had them before and they never really smelled horrible. I never had that part of it. Like I've never had the smell part, but I guess like yeast infection in your asshole probably smells pretty rank.

Like I thought I'm like laughing at her pain, but I don't mean to. Like I just, I don't, I can't imagine what that would be like. Also some vaginal yeast infections itch and some don't. Did her asshole itch? Because that would be even worse. I have heard that about yeast infections that it causes you to itch. Not all of them. Cause I've had yeast infections I didn't even know. I didn't even realize I had cause they were just like super minor.

So I don't- Interesting. I think it's hit her, like depending on how severe it is. You know what I mean? What? Okay, this might not even be related to yeast or anything, but why do some people dig their assholes? Worms. Wait, that's real?

Yes. My- My dad and my nanny always used to say if they saw somebody picking their ass, they'd be like, you got a worm in your ass? No, literally. No, that's real. That's real for real?

So a former friend of mine told me a story about how she walked with her own eyes, her own eyeballs, her neighbor come out of his house and was digging in his butt. And then the mom later came to her house and was saying that she put a flashlight to her son's ass and there was worms in there. Like the worms that crawl on the ground? No.

Intestinal worms? No. Art worms? Um, Kristin, what kind of worms go like tapeworms maybe? Or like, are they like butt worms? Asshole worms? Round worms, tape worms. No, these were whatever the ones that she saw them moving. I don't wanna Google, because I'll throw up. I'm disgusted.

And on that note, we've got one more foul play. It's short. It says, hello ladies. I hope you guys get a good giggle out of this. Kale, you aren't the only one whose kids call out your cooch. To set the scene, it was my husband. Oh, shit.

Ten year old son, five year old, nine month old daughters and myself. Saturday before Mother's Day, we were out shopping and I was looking at bathing suits at Belk when my five year old told me, Mom, your vagina is hairy like cactus. Hairy like cactus, Mom. That is so funny. Then she proceeded to yell two rows over to my husband dad mom's vagina is hairy like a cactus. My husband and I looked at each other and died laughing. I was laughing too hard to even care to look around to see the reactions that other people had go play with your Barbies and quit worrying about the hair on

my vagina. Let me add I do shave my coochie one to two times per week. I don't that's Lux. That's fucking Lux and Creed because both of them don't mind their business talking about the dimples on my butt. Why does my thing jiggle when I laugh? Like why talking about my I can't my chins my cooch my butt my cellulite all of it stop it go worry about yourself. I don't know what it's like to have that many kids so I truly

can't even relate. But like, why are they in the bathroom enough to see your thing? They don't get because well, first of all, my shower is entire glass, the whole thing. And then at one point we were I would just put them in the shower with me because it was easier. Now Lux is not he's too old for that., but Lux or Creed's growing out of that. And it's just, they don't mind their business. Also my closet is across from my bathroom.

And so if they just walk in, especially in the morning, it's not so bad at night, but in the morning when we're like getting ready, I'm like, can y'all do something? Like go brush your teeth. This entire episode should be titled, mind your goddamn business. Period.

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