Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Nut Me Up!

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

CC323: On this month's bonus episode, Kail and Lindsie are getting holiday ready. What is on the menu for Christmas dinner? Lindsie talks about her Christmas tree rules, and Kail embarrassingly shares the time in her life where she LOVED mermaids... and this was definitely an era! For Foul Play, Kail and Lindsie are ready to call CPS. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors!Hanna Andersson: To get holiday ready, visit HannaAndersson.com/COFFEECONVOS and use code COFFEECONVOS for 20% off your first orderPair Eyewear: Go to paireyewear.com/COFFEECONVOS for 15% off your first purchaseProgressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say, thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family,

and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. I'm glad you found your trapstick because I did not find mine. So I'm gonna be dusty, crusty, aqua four, the best, the best invention ever. You can put that shit on everything. No, literally, you could put it on anyway. I'm not even gonna get into it. People already know what Aquaforce use, but I love it. I'm obsessed.

Good morning. Happy holidays. Just wanted to quickly say, I wanna wish you guys all a happy holiday, no matter what you're celebrating. I hope you guys have a wonderful new year ahead. For me, it is Christmas. I'm just gonna forewarn you guys

if you might see some of these clips Don't know what part of these clips that you're going to see but for us recording if my camera goes off It's probably because I'm gagging and I don't want to make you gag. So gagging at Like I'm just nauseous ma'am Like I'm sharing with the class. No, not right now. I don't want to share anything with the class. I have been gagging all morning. Okay. And I don't know what it's coming from, but I know whenever I see somebody else gag, it makes me gag.

Are you like that too? Yes. I actually gave Rio some pumpkin pie last night. I gave them like a little, you know, the filling. Yeah, little sliver. First of all, I don't think I've ever seen a baby like truly gag and disgust about anything. And the way that his neck, his nostrils instantly flared and he started gagging. It was the cutest, funniest, most disgusting gag that he hates pumpkin pie. And I don't, now I'm wondering if he's even mine.

Isn't that the best when you start giving your kids solid foods and you realize that they have possible texture issues and they like none of the same things that you like because same? Literally, it's because I thought he was going to be like my most Literally, it's because I thought he was gonna be like my most expanded palette out of all my children because truly because of Elijah's cooking and I was wrong. I couldn't be more wrong. He's definitely, it has to be a texture thing because we also gave him yesterday we gave him something. What the heck was it? And he started gagging at that too and we were like, nope, it's texture. Definitely a texture thing.

One of the most devastating things for me when I started feeding Jackson solid foods, like it was heartbreaking to me. He hates grits and like that is a southern staple and I think it must have been just the texture because I know how to whip up some grits. Like I can do- Does he like them now? No. He has never liked them and I thought, oh wow, this will be like a great thing. He can always have this for breakfast.

I always ate it for breakfast growing up. It could be butter grits. It could be cheese grits. It doesn't matter how the grits are made and it devastated me. I was like, are you even from the south? Like what is wrong? You're like, are you even my child? Yes. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had grits. And people who like grits, I feel like you're a cream of wheat or a grits.

Is cream of wheat also a Southern thing? I think so. It's like a sweeter version of grits in my opinion. The texture is a little bit different. version of grits in my opinion. The texture's a little bit different. Growing up, my brother Kyle liked cream of wheat and I liked grits, so we got both. I absolutely hate cream of wheat, but Jackson will tear up, like literally tear up oatmeal.

I would try grits. I feel like that's more something that I would try. Cream of wheat, it sounds like weedy cereal, like whole wheat and I hate those. So that's what it reminds, like it sounds like. No, it's just, it's so good. And next time you come here, I will take you somewhere to get good grits.

Okay, deal. Deal. Can you tell me, since we were just talking about Rio, how you plan to do holidays with him since you and Elijah lived together. So it's funny we had this conversation last night and I was like, we need to figure out what we're doing because I did tell my kids, this year we're gonna start,

I explained to them, the reason why I never really did Christmas was because I got tired of fighting and I wanted them to go be with their extended family, et cetera, et cetera. Now that Elijah and I have children together, I've said to Elijah, like, we're going to have to figure out how to do Christmas, but it has to be when I have all my kids and I'm not going to renege on my agreement with them. Like they still, I already agreed to them having Christmas every year. So I have taken the advice of the kitty gang and just we're gonna do it on a different day,

which is perfectly fine with me. I have no issues with that. And also it gives Elijah a chance to take the kids to see his family, you know? So it kind of like all works out. But he was like, we don't have a tradition. And I said, what do you mean? And he was like, my family doesn't have traditions

for Christmas. Wait, what? Wait, I was like, that's actually like devastating because even though I've had such like a really broken home with like my mother, my extended family, which we talked about for Thanksgiving has always had mandatory Thanksgiving, mandatory Christmas, nobody misses it. Like, I shit you, not nobody misses. And so, home life was weird, but my mom always made sure I was where I was supposed to be for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Like the holidays, Susie was mom of the year. Showing out, in her best, her best fucking dress outfit,

whatever, the whole nine. So I was like, that's really sad. I said, well, let's decide if we're gonna celebrate Christmas, you know, before the kids all go to their dads and you take the kids to your mom and your dad and then, or we can do it when they get back from everybody's dads. So we want them, you want y'all's holiday to coincide with your other kids being able to participate.

Yes. So now, like if I'm going to celebrate Christmas with my other kid, like with my children with Elijah, I want my other kids to be able to be included because I don't think it's, like, I don't wanna leave them out of that. And I'm like, like I said, I'm okay with doing it on a different day. So we're just trying to figure out if, you know,

and this year might be a little rough because it's the first one. So I don't know if we'll do it before Christmas, like right before Christmas or after, but I'll wait until everyone, I don't think we're'll do it before Christmas, like right before Christmas or after, but I'll wait until everyone, I don't think we're gonna do the gifts thing though. Like I still, whatever traditions we decide on that we start, whatever the case is,

I think we're still not gonna do gifts. If anything, maybe we could gift one experience to everybody as a whole, or maybe like an individual, like the gift would be like, oh, one-on-one day, day-date for me and the kids kind of thing, but more so I wanna do like Christmas traditions versus gifts.

Okay, remember when you and I talked about doing experiences for gifts instead of like tangible, I don't know, just stuff that doesn't really even matter. I would rather do something that we would have the memory from than a pair of shoes or, I don't know. I absolutely love that. It's really hard though, whenever you have kids

with multiple different custody schedules, for me with one, it's hard enough, but with multiples. And then you feel like your kids in the situation that you feel like you have figured life out that they're going to kind of miss out. And then what when they do start realizing like, okay, this is Christmas day or this is Christmas Eve, then what do you do then? Still keep, I want my kids like, the biggest thing for me is when my kids grow up, I want them to remember, because think about it, like the drama that pretty much has ensued thus far, not saying that they're not gonna remember it,

because I very much remember trauma from when I was little, right? But I just hope that when they grow up, they realize that more years than not, my mom and dad, you know, it's this way because they didn't want to fight over us for holidays. They, I want them to be like, you know, I celebrate Christmas Eve or Christmas day with my dad. And this is the tradition I do with my mom. I don't think that they're going to care because they'll be with somebody for

Christmas Eve, Christmas day. And I want them to just know that like, it is the way it is because we wanted what was best for you and that was to not fight. I just always struggle with hoping that he doesn't feel like our custody schedule makes him pick sides. Does that make sense? Yes, yes it does. Like I have him every other year,

will has him on the odd or it's like odd even years, whatever, but that is what is in our custody schedule and that's what we go by. Right. We tend to go by the custody schedule pretty, it's pretty cut and dry and we don't really deviate unless there's like a work trip or some type of something like when Trent had surgery, for example, I had to go to his house on Thursday night because his surgery was so early on Friday. So we'll kept him But for holidays, we don't really deviate at all and for this specific Christmas I'm struggling a little bit because I want to have him because it is designated my Christmas

But because he is so close to Will's family and that's the only grandparents that he really has and he now has cousins there I'm like maybe family and that's the only grandparents that he really has. And he now has cousins there. I'm like, maybe thinking about having a conversation with Will, maybe you pick him up at 11, take him to your parents, let him enjoy with his cousin so he doesn't miss out. So it doesn't feel separate for all of them, you know, none of the rest of them are divorced. So they shouldn't have to operate around our custody schedule. And I also don't want Jackson to feel like they were all celebrating doing this big hoopla. And he wasn't involved. So like that whole situation sucks. It sucks all together.

I have two Christmas trees up and I'm so excited to be able to start getting gifts under there. I am the last minute put gifts out. Like I don't, you know, like how some people, they'll start wrapping gifts in like October. Yeah. That ain't me, sis. Like I start wrapping gifts at midnight Christmas Eve, which is technically Christmas day.

That used to be me like years ago when I celebrated Christmas that was like, I was still shopping on New Year's Eve, or Christmas Eve, which is technically Christmas Day. That used to be me, like years ago when I celebrated Christmas that was like I was still shopping on New Year's Eve, or Christmas Eve. And then that stressed me out. And then one year I did Christmas, actually a couple of years in a row, I started shopping really early, rapping early.

I just didn't want the hassle. The more kids I had, it became more of like a thing. But now I'm giving like subscriptions, experiences. I don't have to wrap shit. Yeah, I'm saying for birthdays as well. Like all year round, we're not doing I'm not wrapping nothing. Hi. This podcast is sponsored by Hannah Anderson. And so is my son because he has been wearing the zip up PJs that I got him

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first order. Trust me, your little ones will thank you, offer not valid during side white sales. Wait, so can you tell me, does Elijah like Christmas? Like do they, you said they don't have like a tradition, but they don't like celebrated at all. They don't do family dinner. Last year we, I went over there with, I went over to his parents house with him and Rio,

and we peep, there was like a ton of gifts like for their whole family. And I guess like the family would come pick them up. Like that a couple of people had stopped by like pick them up and literally left. And then we ate lasagna and then we went home. Like it wasn't even like a formal, like we just sat down and it was like,

it was, I don't, like I don't want to call it strict. It was different. It was very different. Wait, so they, I'm trying to call it strict. It was different. It was very different. Wait, so they, I'm trying to get a visual. So there was like drive by gift picking up? Yes. Because you have to understand Elijah's family, his mom I think is like one of like seven or eight.

And so, and then his dad has siblings and then everybody has like, so there's just so many. I think that it would be hard for everyone to get together for like whose house would be big enough to host everyone. I do not like the adult gift giving idea. You keep it for the kids. It's just the kids. And I think I told you one year on this podcast that we started incorporating just doing, it's kind of like Secret Santa, like white elephant for the adults. And you just get one person and they send you a list and you have a certain amount of

money that you can spend and then like that's it. I love that idea because it makes it a little more fun and you still feel like you're getting a gift even though I just like really don't care about the gifts. I'm more about the time spent. Yeah. And I'm more about the food. The food is your language. Yeah, I don't care about like don't even because it's awkward. I don't want to I don't like what literally what like thank you doesn't feel like enough for me. So I just want to like I'm more worried about like what time is dinner? I actually love the lasagna idea. I'm pretty sure his family told me that a lot should cooks because his dad cooks not saying his mom can't cook. That's not what I'm saying Alisha's dad

the best lasagna I ever had in my life and then it makes the best lasagna I ever had in my life. And then Elijah started making it when he realized how much I loved his dad's lasagna. So like Elijah can make his lasagna really well. Yeah, it's definitely I would guess it's probably not a traditional like Christmas meal. I absolutely love lasagna. And it's so interesting that this even came up because I just recently made my first lasagna as an adult not too long this even came up because I just recently made my first lasagna as an adult not too long ago. How did it turn out? And it turned out phenomenal. Like it was so good but I also felt like it was such a process because I don't use canned sauce. No, no,

no, no, no. So I did like the whole crock pot sauce situation the day before. Okay. And then it was a day that I had Jackson for the night. So he had spaghetti that night because I already had the sauce. And then I did the whole put together the lasagna and I'm pretty sure I called Kristen and I was like, am I doing this right? I think I FaceTime burned was like, how was like, how are you supposed to layer this? Like, I don't know if I'm doing the layering right.

It's a whole art in itself. And then I got down this long rabbit hole of looking at recipes that I absolutely was not following. However, the reason I was looking at these recipes was because I was trying to look at the comments to see if the no bake noodles like really work or if they turn out crunchy or if it's best if I like boil the noodles. No bake? What is that? Yeah, there are like noodles for lasagna that supposedly makes it easier that you don't cook.

Like you just lay them flat, raw or whatever. I don't even know like, do you boil? Like, cause I know like the noodles that Elijah get, like does he boil them or he just puts them crunchy and then they cook in the oven? Like I don't even know how that works. So they're like specific ones that you can buy that you aren't supposed to cook.

Like when you cook. Okay, So you don't boil them. You don't boil them. Yeah. And you just like lay them in their solid form on there. But I think those are the types of noodles that all the recommendations I saw, if you're using those types of noodles in a lasagna, then you should make up your lasagna the night before and let it sit and then because it'll soften the noodles probably okay that makes sense but I got sketched out about that and lasagna is quite

expensive to make that's that's probably why Elijah like I have to ask him like a weekend in advance like hey can we have can we have a little lasagna this weekend like he I gotta ask him yeah so because it truly is like a whole process in itself. So I got sketched out about how much it costs to make the lasagna. So I was like, I'm not going to try this no bait noodle situation or no, no boil noodle situation. So I boiled them and then they started sticking together. And I was like, fuck, like, I need to boil more because I don't want these to look rankiedank.

So went through that whole process and it actually turned out fabulous. And I think it's such a good thing to take like to an event like if you're going somewhere because I feel like everybody loves lasagna. There's only like a select few abnormal people that don't love lasagna. And Kristen gave me a really good idea

that I think I am adopting for Christmas Eve. Which is what? It is a pasta bar. On Christmas Eve. Yeah, and you do like red sauce, white sauce. I think she said she does like a meat sauce, a vodka sauce sauce a white sauce I feel like I did not know that about her. That's like new to me. I'm teaching you new things about Kristen

I know what she eats on Christmas. I think it's ribs Prime rib. What is that? That is a very normal. What is my rib? Um, That is a very normal. What is my rib? That is a very normal situation for Christmas Day. Normal. What is the prime rib ribs or what is it? No, it's not it's not ribs. It's like, well, it's a red meat. But let me prime. Like, what does it look like? Because I this whole time that I've known her for like 10 years, I've literally thought

that she prime rib was ribs. Okay. What is it? Okay, hold on. Why is it called prime rib? It's a classic roast beef made from the beef rib primal cut. Usually roasted with the bone and served with a simple pan sauce made from its natural juices. Yeah, I never I thought I'm I'm literally thinking for the past 10 years, she has been so a lot of people with her family on barbeque ribs and baked beans

like that's been your thought process. Okay, that's what I thought. So Kristen just said she does, they don't do, they don't do the seven fishes. I don't know why I thought you did do the seven fishes, Kristen. Like I thought that that was what you did. She's like absolutely not. Okay, so we used to do pork tenderloin for Christmas day. What is that? Pork tenderloin, it's so good. Like if cooked properly on the grill, honestly Trent makes the best pork tenderloin and we have it regularly throughout the week. What is a tenderloin exactly?

Well, let me Google that. Pork tenderloin. I gotta Google it, because I gotta know what it looks like. Okay, what is pork tenderloin? Oh, just like a pork chop. No, but it's like long. It's like long and you slice it, you know what I mean? Like a ham, you slice it like a ham.

Yeah, but it's like this long like thing. Loaf. Yeah, like loaf of meat. Yeah, Kristen said it's also like another roast, but I think prime rib is pretty common on Christmas day. Pork tenderloin I think is pretty common on Christmas day. I prefer all of the sides on Christmas day. Like, I don't know, I think we do twice baked potatoes with pork tenderloin and I absolutely love a potato in any form. I love a potato in any form. I grew up never

having a Christmas meal. Like that's not something I ever did. So like take me take me way back to like the 90s whenever you were growing up. Little kale, we would go to my grandmother, my mom's mom's house for Christmas Eve, and then Christmas morning, like around 11 or 12, we'd go to my Nana's the same place that we my great grandmother, where we had Thanksgiving. Okay. But there might have been snack foods, but there wasn't a meal. So when I was growing up, we always did finger foods on Christmas Eve and then a meal meal on Christmas Day. But I don't care.

Call me a poser or whatever. I'm adopting the pasta bar. I think that's a phenomenal idea. You can keep your sauces hot. You can cook your noodles ahead of time. There's going to be a variety that everybody's going to love. It's truly like a genius idea. I mean, whatever floats everyone's boat. Coffee Combos podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Most of you listening right now are probably multitasking, so while you're listening to us talk, you're probably also driving, cleaning, exercising, or maybe even grocery shopping.

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national average 12 month savings of $744 by new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive between June of 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings will vary, discounts not available in all states and situations. Can you tell me if you have any interest in decorating your house for Christmas? I don't. I said on Lysha a Instagram reel of someone

putting up this like super cute whole situation. And I was like, we're not decorating unless it's like this because we're either going big or we're just staying home kind of thing, you know? Go big, go home. I just, it's a lot of work. You have like a really pretty house. I don't know. Whenever I move into a new home,

I feel like I have to figure out when I start searching for a new home, I look at their rooms to see if they'll accommodate Christmas trees and like how many I can get up. How many Christmas trees you can put up? I can put up one. What do you mean? Well, that you could like see from the outside.

Like, you know, when you drive by people's houses and they're like Christmas trees in the window, we could do one like that. Okay, so it's funny that you say that. My Christmas tree that I put in my front room, you can see from the window and it's so appealing to like pull up and just see the lights on and everything's like glimmering on the inside.

It looks so great. I have a rule on my front room Christmas tree that those cannot be changed. So you know like the pre-lit Christmas trees and you can switch the colors of the lights so like you can do like a sparkle or a twinkle or just plain like normal people or you can do like the color light situation. Okay. Jackson absolutely loves the color lights and I don't know why. Probably kids, I think kids more so like the color lights.

But Will's dad also likes the color lights. He's a man, so that doesn't surprise me. But it feels like the Griswolds, okay? So, I don't, you've never seen Christmas vacation. You haven't lived. Christmas, I've never even heard of that. You've never heard of Christmas vacation. You haven't lived. Christmas? I've never even heard of that. You've never heard of Christmas vacation? No.

Okay. Immediately when we get off this, it's a movie. Immediately when we get off this recording, cancel the rest of the day and watch Christmas vacation. It is absolutely one of the best movies ever. Okay. I would watch it even outside of the holiday. It's just so funny to me. I have a rule in my front living room that it's only white lights because I don't want anybody to think that I'm tacky that drives by my house. Okay. On the back tree that like you can't see from the road. I don't care. He can blast those color lights, change them, do whatever he wants to, but the front, it's going to be pristine.

It's going to be pristine. I love the look of whether it's the colorful lights or the white light, whatever it is. I love when they are the ones that are like just around the entire border of like the house. Like I love that look. The white ones though? Yeah. Okay, yeah, the white ones. I don't think I've ever seen them in color, but I would imagine it would look just as nice in color too. Like as long as they are the ones that like literally line the border of your house directly,

you didn't get what I'm saying? Yeah, no, it's gotta look good and it can't be like rankiedank on the outside. A lot of roofing companies actually offer that service for you to be able to get your lights hung, pristine like that. Okay, so if that is the case, like if I could find someone in Delaware to do that,

then I would do it. But if me or Elijah, like I would rather have Elijah on a different project in the house than to put up lights. So I would hire someone. That reminds me of that Christmas movie for Christmases. Have you seen that one? Never heard of it. Goodbye. Like you're not maybe this is the tradition. Maybe you're maybe this is the tradition for the day that I

have my kids to like celebrate, we like make cookies and popcorn and watch these holiday movies because I've never heard of these in my life. That is so upsetting. Honestly, it's really upsetting. I just need to know, well, you don't do gifts. I need everybody's advice on what you do for stocking stuffers. My parents were always really good at this. We got very practical things in our stockings,

but like quality things in our stockings. See, I love that. Kristen and I have always been big. Look, when we gift each other for any time of the year, we try to be practical. That's just like, you could do do gift card. Kristen has done a gift card tree for me before. You could do gift card thing. Also, like products that you use, like makeup products, skincare products, like things that are actually this girl went viral last year

for her Christmas stocking stuffers. Definitely look up on TikTok specifically for stocking stuffer ideas because this one girl, I mean, I'm talking millions and millions of views because she had such practical stocking stuffers and they were so personalized to the each person because she knew exactly what they liked, what they would use, what their skin type was, stuff like that. I feel like that's such a good idea. No, that's such a good idea. No, that's such a good idea. I'm really good at buying the bigger things or gifting an experience.

I'm good at that. The stocking stuffer, it's always a last minute thing that I'm trying to throw together. I don't know what to put in it. I don't want it to be rinky dinky. I don't want it to be stuff that someone wouldn't use. Yeah, like a waste of money for you clutter for them. Yeah.

I never want somebody to get a gift from me and then go home and be like, what do I do with this? You know? I hate that. Yeah. Have you ever gotten a gift and re-gifted it to somebody? Yeah. No.

Yes, I have. What was it? Actually, I'm not going to lie to you. I do it all the time,? Yeah. No. Yes, I have. What was it? Actually, I'm not gonna lie to you, I do it all the time, like all year round. Wait, what? What? I don't want this to come off rude. There's just companies that send me stuff all the time

and I just re-gifted it to people. Like, I'll use it. I don't, oh, so you've already used it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Like, say a company sends me, no, no, no, no. Okay. Like, say a company sends me something, and then they keep sending me stuff. It's like, I'll keep the first round,

but I have not even finished or got, like this is not done yet. So when you send me the second package, at this point, I am overwhelmed and consumed by these products, I need to give them away. So every year, Natalie's friend has this thing at work for the holidays where it's like, I don't know if it's like a raffle

or something that she doesn't work. So a lot of the time when I'm getting like an abundance of items, I donate them to her because they can do their whatever raffle or whatever. Or for example, someone sent me, I went through like my mermaid era, right? So like someone gifted me all this mermaid stuff. Wait, what is mermaid era?

Like I was obsessed. Why am I still mind blown right now? I was obsessed with mermaids, right? Like obsessed at one point. How old were you at this time? Like, and a fucking adult. I was an adult. Okay.

And I went through, this was probably like right before I met you, honestly. Like truly was fulfilling and healing my inner child because I never was allowed to have Anyway Can we like actually get into this because this is something that I did not know about you at all Lindsay I went through like a hardcore Mermaid era like like embarrassing obsessed with what does that mean? What does all things

mermaid ocean um any like mermaid figurines a mermaid prints mermaid art for my walls mermaid anything mermaid I needed it. This is not real. I had mermaid tweezers like the tweezers had like a mermaid on them and then like the part that you like tweeze something with was like the bottom of the fin. Oh my God, it was, and I think about it now and I'm like, I was a full blown adult, you know, like there I was mentally ill. Like Kristen literally just said everyone associated kale with mermaids in this era, like, no funny shit.

This was an obsession. That you were shopping at Francesca's? Correct. Like, hardcore. So I was gifted so much mermaid stuff at one point that I could not keep up. So companies like from, you know, small shops and stuff, they would just send me stuff. So then my little cousin, this is how you know I was mentally ill. My little cousin who's literally like right now,

she's 13, 14. So she's 15 years younger than me, was doing her room theme and mermaids. And this company had sent me a box of mermaid stuff. I literally opened it, didn't go through it, closed it. I never even read the note, sent it to my cousin for her little room and my cousin, my cousin who's her mom was like, Kailin, you, there's a note in here for you. cousin for her little room. And my cousin, my cousin, who's her mom was like,

Kaylin, you, there's a note in here for you. Like this was for you. I said, yeah, I know, but I was gifting it to her because she's I don't need, I don't need more mermaid staff. Okay. I don't think that like tapping into childhood things that you love as an adult is necessarily that you love as an adult is necessarily a bad thing. But to the degree that you're talking about, you let this consume your entire existence. No, they were all over my house, Lindsay. Like I, okay, you know how sometimes wet brush will do like different collections of stuff?

Yeah, or like I have a Bratz phone case on my phone right now, like Bratz dolls. I cannot. I cannot. I never owned a Bratz doll in on my phone right now, like Bratz dolls. I cannot. I cannot. I never owned a Bratz doll in my life because my mom never bought them for me. So I'm fulfilling my childhood dreams right now. With that phone case.

Yes, and this little thing right here. I love that about you. I have an aerial wet brush because they did like a Disney collection. I have a Barbie wet brush because they did a Barbie collection. So like stuff like that. But when you're talking about these little tiny figurines, we have to talk about that because the type of people that have trinkets just like laying around their house,

when I go in your house, I immediately just want to go like this on your counter. Like I just want to wipe it all off. Like yeah, counters are not made to have dust collectors and that's what I consider like these little tiny figurines. So can you tell me where exactly were these figurines? They were on shelves. They were on like my entertainment, like where the TV goes. I'd put them there in between picture frames. I would put mermaid prints in between photos on the wall. Like I'd have like family photos and then a mermaid print.

And then I had the mermaid tweezers. I had mermaid makeup bags to put my makeup in, mermaid shirts, just mermaid everything. Were you married whenever this was going on? I believe I was. Can you tell me what Jose had to say about this? Nothing. He was just fine with it? I mean kudos to him. He just never really gave a fuck about that stuff. So like I mean I talked about it before like the wedding, decorating the house, like he just didn't, like that was just not in his wheelhouse. So he didn't give a fuck.

But yeah, I was very, I mean, I definitely, like, you know how they say like trauma stunts growth sometimes and maturity? I think that happened, like that's, that very much happened to me. Well, I love that you got to live out that mermaid era. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm glad that you got out of your system and enjoyed that. Oh, wait, I have a mermaid tattoo. Did that tattoo happen during that time? Yes. Yes. This was actually the first thing. And that started your sleeve? No, no, no, no.

This was the first thing that I was like, I'm going to commit to the mermaid girly era. Like as if this wasn't enough, I had to have them everywhere. Let me tell you what I just got finished ordering for my own stocking and that is blue light glasses from Pear. I love that. I told you I got a couple of pairs myself and I actually was just talking to my mother-in-law

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It's like get everything at one place, which I'm sure is so much easier for moms and stuff when they're trying to do everything all at one time. I just love how budget-friendly they are. That's like my biggest point that I love about Pear. One of my biggest things is the virtual try-on. So you can find the right frame shape for you from the comfort of your home. We know that I love doing everything from the comfort of your home. We know that I love doing everything from the comfort of my home. Pairs quality frames are built for everyday durability and versatility. So they're the only glasses that you're ever going to need. You save on traditional glasses

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for 15% off your first pair. That's pair, P-A-I-R-I-WARE.com slash coffee. I love that. Do you think mermaids are real? I don't have a solid opinion. I think I could be suede either way with the proper research and evidence. I think I could also be suede either way.

And when you say, do I think mermaids are real? I would say the mermaid, not a mermaid like this. I think when we're talking about mermaids are real. I would say the mermaid, not a mermaid like this. I think when we're talking about mermaids, I'm thinking some sort of evolution of the fish that would be more evolution of fish into people's cells, into whatever, not like the mermaids, like the little mermaid, you know? I think that they possibly could be real.

There was one time that I went down the slippery slope of thinking that mermaids were real because I saw something that popped up on Facebook. And it was a hoax, but it was like this mermaid was like found swimming up at this place on the beach. And I was committed to like believing that this had convinced me. And I'm here to tell you that Will Campbell told me that I was psychotic and I needed help. And that that was absolutely not real.

And that leads me to ask, does anybody else get bamboozled by some of these hoax? Because I am bamboozled all the time by hoax. Oh same. Oh, 100%. 100%. I'm bamboozled all the time. Like that's the problem with me being easily swayed. Like with proper evidence, I mean, we're talking like proper research and evidence. And by proper, I use that term loosely. Like it could be completely bogus

and you're convincing me that this is real. But also I'm not like, Kristen's a conspiracy theorist in my opinion. I'm not, but like could I be because I- What is it? It's Kristen a conspiracy theory. She always has conspiracies and I'll ask her like if we have a debate about something or we're talking about something I'm like is this a conspiracy theory or is this like real? But she knows the difference so she'll like she'll be like well it's kind of a conspiracy but it is a theory. I kind of feel like I fall down that slippery slope of like slightly being a conspiracy theorist as well. Remember when I said that the world was flat

and people lost their minds? Yeah, and I just don't know. I don't actually, I don't believe that. I was just like at the time I was like convinced based on the videos that I was watching, but like again, I was bamboozled, you know, like now I'm like, okay, clearly I was not that was also during my mermaid era. So let's just the world was flat and you were a mermaid. Listen, Kristen told me the other day, she was like, listen, if you want to believe like whatever you want to believe, you can find evidence to support 100% whatever it is that you want to believe. And like through your research, I was watching this psychologist, he was specifically talking in the video was

talking about Brian Coburger, but he literally said there will still be people he could admit to your face that he did x, y and z and there will still be people that are committed to their theory because they are so emotionally invested in it. That is one situation. Not going to bring up co-worker, but I am just going to say that is one specific situation that I'm not going to get down any conspiracy rabbit holes. Like I believe what I believe and no one can convince me otherwise, but there are certain things that you could have me convince.

But I have another Christmas related thing that I wanted to ask you about. Okay. When you are gifting, I know you don't do like the gifts, but when you're gifting these experiences, do you set aside money throughout the year? If like budget allows you to do, or I know a lot of people I have heard in the past, um, use like the envelope system to save for like holidays and vacations and stuff like that. And I just feel like the holidays always creep up on me. And then I forgot to do the envelope situation for 11 months and

then it just like doesn't apply. I the cash envelope, cash stuffing situation, sinking fund in terms of cash has never been a thing for me. I just, that's just something that doesn't work for me. Now, I don't typically purchase Christmas gifts for a lot of people. So I don't have to, I don't necessarily like, have to set aside like a large amount of money, but that's a good idea.

The thing is about budgeting that I don't understand without Kristin's help is how do you decide, how do you know what the budget is? That's a great question because without knowing exactly what it is that you're trying to gift, do you... Okay, let's say we were using the envelope system. Let's just go with that. Okay. Okay. And we're saying, you know, every week, we're setting aside X amount of dollars to put in this. And then Christmas time rolls around. Do you base what you're gifting based off of what you have saved in that or do you save that whole process?

Know what you're saving for that to me makes more sense. But also the problem with that is like, Kristen just said, Jesus Christ. The problem with that is like, for example, my kids, what they would like for their birthday in January might change. So like if I was to create a budget, okay, Kristen said you set a budget per person, then you save the total amount for all the people. But how do you, how do you decide what the budget is per person? Because what Isaac wants at 14 is very different than what Lincoln wants at 10.

And so you get what I'm saying, you decide what you are willing to give. Okay. Okay. So then that's stressful. That's very stressful for me too, because if something is like not out of reason, I don't want to say, well, that's not what was in the envelope. So I'm not going to get that. But I think some people do it this way. They set a budget for

each of their kids. So like if you have multiple kids, let's just do like simple numbers. Like I'm giving you $100 for Christmas or something. Each. Each. I'm just saying a simple number, right? $100. They can pick something within that $100 or you can gift them the cash, I guess. But some people don't shop and gift that way. They gift based off of need because a lot of people will gift like clothing, kids get shoes at Christmas. These aren't really gifts that they might want them,

but they more so need those things. And some people are gift givers that they're not buying what their kids need or what their significant other needs. They're buying based off of what they want. Listen, I gave, I'll never forget. When Javi and I first moved to Delaware, I did Isaac's whole room, right? Like new bed, new stuff, painted it,

bedspread, the whole nine yards. People were livid with me because they said that's not a gift, that's a necessity. And so how the fuck dare I gift necessities is what was said to me in the comments at that time. I don't really feel like that's a fair thing because some people, I would say for the majority of people, if they are redoing one of their kids' rooms,

how can you tell them that that is not a gift if they don't have it within their budget to like do that and also something else? So I think that that is just insane and people shouldn't be worried about how somebody else is spending their money I'm just nosy and I just want to know like how people are saving what people are doing Well, so okay, for example Lincoln's birthday and he sent me a list. I didn't even ask it. Ask for it was unprompted. And I'm looking at this list. The thing you love when our kids send us list of things that are like

completely unprompted, like, Hey, these are the 12 things that I want off of Amazon. And I was like, what? Yeah. No, he literally sent it. And it, the funny thing is I was on the phone with Kristen and it says mom's house in parentheses. Good night. And me and Kristen were cracking up because we were like this motherfucker.

So I was looking at the list and I knew right off the bat, like there were things on there he wasn't getting because I mean a dirt bike is like a cheap one is like $2,500. And then and then he wanted to like he had like really unrealistic things on there. So like, but then he also had some really affordable things on there. So I was like, so taking that into consideration, how like, but aren't these learning lessons for our kids? Oh, for sure.

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but how many times growing up did I put stuff on a list and I knew that there was a chance I wasn't going to, you know what I mean? Like he, he doesn't hurt to ask the worst that they say is no. I would say one of my parents greatest qualities was also one of their, they set unreasonable expectations for us as adults.

Because when we put something on our list, typically we could always count that we got it. And so I think that created unrealistic adulthood because that's just not realistic. You can't get everything that you want, but I do think it's a great opportunity to teach your kids. Like, hey, these are things that are on your list that are reasonable things to ask for.

These are things that should actually be on a wish list that have to be saved for over a period of time. And this is not a reasonable thing to ask for for Christmas. It kind of reminds me the day after Thanksgiving in the newspaper. I'm pretty sure it's the day after Thanksgiving in the newspaper. They always had like the sales ads for all like the toy stores. It was like Toys R Us, Walmart, Kmart, you know,

like you name it, all the places. And we would sit at the dining room table and go through these things and circle all the things that we wanted on there, right? And I was so methodical about what I was circling because I didn't want to circle too much and then then get something that I might not like Really necessarily want just like looks cool to have yeah

Yeah, so I was very methodical in the way that I looked at the paper Kyle however circled everything He circled absolutely everything and had no idea what the fuck he was getting for Christmas, but that's that That's actually really funny, but that shows your different personalities and how. Yes. I want, that's so funny, but that's so smart. Like I don't want to circle this thing that I kind of, like it would be cool if I had it, but I don't really want it because if I get that

and I don't get something that I really want, that's really funny. I just, I think too, like specifically Lincoln, and I don't know if it's just because of the way that Hobby grew up. I worry because I worry about him specifically for adulthood in the sense of unrealistic expectations for a lot of things, right?

Like Hobby has taken him to a lot of meet and greets for famous people, like wrestlers, athletes, things like that. 48 hour trips to go to certain sport games. Trips and jet, like he just went to the Bahamas not that long ago, Disney, two weeks later. Very unrealistic for adulthood. That's not realistic for, I would say 99% of Americans.

Well, so that's a scary place for me to be too. And so that's something that I have considered more in the recent years than I have probably ever because I have more kids. It's not realistic for me to just get up and go and take him here and there and everywhere. But there was a time where I almost was not necessarily competing with Hobby, but I was trying time where I almost was not necessarily competing with

hobby, but I was trying to keep up with it. And I realized it's just not one, it's just not who I am. And two, it's just not realistic for life. Well, I think you can go two ways on it, right? My dad was always net, like we never wanted for anything. And if we asked for it, like I said, you got it. Typically we got it.

And he was the best gift giver and it did create some unrealistic expectations. However, as an adult, because I never wanted for anything, I feel like I don't, I still have that mindset. Like I don't have to have everything. Like I couldn't tell you one thing that like I wanted. Like if I was giving somebody a Christmas list and somebody was like, hey, can you give me a Christmas list?

Like I don't know. It's, it's one of those things. Like what do you give, what do you gift someone that has everything? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I, I don't love getting gifts and I used to not love giving gifts.

I think a lot of times, if gifts have ever been used the wrong way in your life before as like a form of an apology or as a form of control, it completely ruins your whole idea behind giving gifts and receiving gifts. And not until really the past couple of years when I started becoming way more intentional in my life did I become a better gift giver because I have never really cared about gifts. So I just assumed that nobody else cares about them but I have to remember that just because I don't doesn't mean that they don't. and I was horrible about that in my marriage Like I was not intentional with gifts at all whatsoever

I didn't put a whole lot of thought into it and not until I got into my like healing Girl era did I become better at it and like truly like tune in and like listen to The wants of other people that are around me. I'm the opposite. I've gift giving has always been in my wheelhouse or my love languages. And gift giving does not. So you know how there's like all the love languages? Receiving gifts I wouldn't say was necessarily receiving gifts more so in a way of necessarily receiving gifts more so in a way of, do you know me well enough to know what I would like as a gift?

But I don't want, if you're giving me a gift, just to give me a gift, that's not a love language for me. But in my relationship specifically, like I would put a lot of thought into, like I was listening. That to me is like the biggest thing. And I never was a good listener of those things. And I feel like in the past two years, I've become so much more intentional and it makes

me excited to want to give somebody something that I love, that I know that I've listened to them and they want. It's, it's, again, it's not about receiving them. It's about that part. Like, you know that they're gonna love it so much because you listened and that's, I don't know. Reminds me, you wouldn't wear this tennis bracelet. Don't get me started on tennis bracelet gate.

This was my nanny's. Okay, so, but that's, if I had my grandma, if I had Carol Jean's bracelet, I would wear it. I always think about realm, the Christmas holiday. And I wanted Justin Bieber tickets and he wasn't listening. So that goes exactly to the point that we were just making that had somebody been listening

and been intentional, they would have known that you prefer Justin Bieber over diamonds, right? I saw this one quote and it said, instead of exchanging gifts this Christmas, some families need to exchange apologies, talk about family secrets, squash old beefs and make peace and forgive. And that's the truth. Also, quote, only say inputs, raisins and cinnamon rolls. I know. I saw that. And I was like, you know what? That is something that I've struggled with

with my whole life. My grandparents- You don't put them in there do you? No, and my grandparents for whatever reason, I feel like they're just like raisin' lubbers and I don't know if it's just like their generation. Yeah. They always thought that that would be like a good snack.

Raisins don't, raisins do not belong in desserts and nuts don't belong in desserts. Yes, they do. No, they don't. Yes, they do. No, they don't. Not me up. I've had enough of that. So I will never say that you will never hear those words come out of my mouth.

Not me up. I absolutely love nuts. Um, you can put all you can put all the cons, all the things, and my dessert's like a coffee cake. It has to have nuts in it. No. I don't know, banana bread? Nuts.

No. Nuts. Raisins and cinnamon rolls, you're a psychopath. Yeah, 100%. Like they do not belong in there. When you get that bite of the cinnamon roll that has raisins, if I had a cinnamon roll that has raisins in it, I try to like dig them out,

but there are some sneaky ones that like... They'll change the whole flavor though, and I don't like that. It changes the whole game, and it's something about the texture, I just really don't like them. Truly, I was traumatized by raisins as a child. My nanny used to make us eat absolutely hate celery and absolutely hate raisins. Me too. And the bitch

made us eat ants on a log. She would like take celery and peanut butter and then like, like, no, like, no, that's not a snack. Like this is torture. That is literal snacks from hell. Like that is truly the bane of my existence. No, we're not eating ants on a log. Like whoever came up with that was deranged and needs to go to prison. Listen, I absolutely hated it growing up and I would cry and cry and be like, I can't, I just cannot eat this. I cannot eat it. She's like, you'll eat it and you'll like it. No. I'm like, I can't, I just cannot eat this. I cannot eat it. She's like, you'll eat it and you'll like it.

No. I'm like, no, in fact, I will not. Another quote that people say that they hear all the time during Christmas holiday when they're hanging out with their family is I saw it on Facebook. Mind your business for what you saw on my Facebook. Like you don't need to tell me what you saw on my Facebook. I know what I posted on my Facebook.

Like I know what I put up there. Like thank you. Like I didn't forget. I didn't black out whenever I was doing it. I don't have amnesia. Exactly. Another one was maybe next year you'll be married or pregnant. I won't be either.

Um, you're like, I hope I'm. I won't be pregnant. I'll tell you that. I hope that I will not be pregnant. I can't say that. I'm like, fuck no for me. It's a no. It's a fuck no for me. It's a you might be married or pregnant next year. God, I just think that that's such a rude thing for people to say like if you can't come up with any other Thing to say then don't say I've never heard that I feel like everybody has heard that when they go to like family like give me give me Context like tell me what the context would be okay? I'll give you an example a perfect example example because this happened to me the other day. Okay. I went to a baby shower and someone's mom asked me about how things were going. They see

my Facebook, see my Instagram, see my photos. So are you guys going to get engaged in? Are you guys planning on getting married? Are you guys planning on having kids? Got it. It's like unless I am Daria and unless I have brought up that conversation, or unless, quite honestly, unless I have a ring on my finger, and it has been posted on Facebook or Instagram, don't ask me about that. It's like, you'll know if we're in it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just so, sometimes it just comes across so rude, because you don't know who you're talking to, and what their problems in life might be. So if you're asking somebody that might have fertility issues about will you be pregnant next year? Yeah. Like you don't know what they could possibly be struggling

with that's just rude. Yeah, but you know what? I do think that it is, and not that this excuses it at all, but I do think it's more of like, today we're more aware of those things and I'm not saying it doesn't happen now, but I'm just saying like we are more aware where like our parents generation and their parents generation, that's all they know. They know, get married, have kids where like today it's like just because I get married doesn't mean I want

to have kids right away, right away, if at all. And or I might not be able to. And so we're not even just like touching that with a 10-foot pole right now So like we're more aware and talking about it. I think makes it better But I just think the older generations just don't have that level of awareness. Yeah. Yeah So also about the marriage thing. It's like who's to say that I'm not very comfortable I'm just speaking for myself, but I know other people will relate to this Who's to say I'm not very comfortable in just my relationship right now? Like I am not looking to speed up a process or make a process go faster than what it needs to go.

Like I'm just enjoying my life at the phase of what it is now. Also, what if you guys, and I'm not saying this is for you, but for some couples, they don't care to be married to have a child. Like they're okay with having a child and being lifelong partners without the marriage certificate. So like also that is and they're not those older generations are also not comfortable with that conversation either. Because it's back to your point get married, have kids. Yeah. Someone asked us do we go and look at Christmas lights? And I need to know before I answer if you do. I don't. I mean, I would. It's not something that I wouldn't do. Um, I just haven't, it's just, we just haven't. We always did it as kids. I'm pretty sure like our grandparents would take us to like ride around

and look at people's neighborhoods and like, that's cute lights, they're certain, I don't know, companies band together and set up lights or if you have little downtown areas, they have it or Christmas parades. Also at some of our local parks, different companies will come and pay to be involved and set up a whole situation. Absolutely love doing that. There's also where we live. It's like it's on the lake and you can drive through. It used to be a water park that we used to go to whenever we were kids called Lake Lanier

Islands and they always do a Christmas thing where you can like you drive up and you pay by the car so however many people are in your car you just pay for the car it goes through and they have a radio station that's like on a sign and it plays Christmas music and you ride through and look at the lights we used to do that as kids a lot. But talking about Christmas music, I need to know what psychopaths listen to that on a regular basis, just driving to work.

Like that puts me in a rage. No, like I get it at the store, like if you're shopping at like a department store or I don't know, like in elevators or like, you know, stuff like that. But like, I'm not putting on Christmas carols or Christmas songs or Mariah Carey like in my car driving to drop the kids off at work. I mean, at school, like I'm just not, like that's just not, we're not doing that.

I'm not interested now. Do you remember like, back when we were kids, any moms who had like, suburban that they put wreaths like on the front of their suburban? Yeah, why do they do that who had like, suburban's that they put wreaths like, on the front of their suburban's. Yeah, why do they do that? Or like reindeer ears? I don't know, like no one needs to know. Like, we all realize it's Christmas.

Like, why are we putting our wreaths on the front? Like, you know where they put the eyelashes on their headlights? Like, I've seen reindeer ears or like, oh. Oh yeah. Like, yeah, it's just not. But you know what, those are for like, the die hard, go hard yeah, it's just not. But you know what, those are for like the die hard,

go hard, Christmas lovers that I feel like. No, honey, we, we drove to the mountains to like, a tree cutter and got fresh wreaths specifically to put on the front of a suburban. It's like, that's not normal. Like something about you, when you came out was unhinged. Okay, well, I'm not, you know what? Whatever makes people happy and they're not like dangerous and you know, scaring society, I'm okay. I used to date somebody one time that put, you know like the really large skeletons for Halloween? Yeah, like the 12 foot ones, yeah.

Yeah, well, he had a jacked up truck and he put one of those skeletons like on the front and rode around like all of October like that. No. Should have been a sign. No. And on that note, perfect time for foul play. Foul play, okay.

Last Christmas, my step brother and his wife brought her niece to family dinner. My parents at the time had a puppy, so they had puppy pads. The little girl stated she had to go potty and I'm not even kidding you. My stepless to say this little girl peed on a puppy pad I was mortified and asked my husband to leave her My mom and dad were also mortified, but they couldn't leave their house I mean, I've heard of crazy potty training strategies, but this one took the cake This reminds me of like the what do they call them like furbies or no, what are they called like the one furries? Yeah, furries. I this doesn't okay, I'm gonna be honest with you guys. And for anyone listening and you can disagree with me, that's perfectly fine. This is just my personal opinion. I do believe that

puppy pads are hit or miss for dogs in general, because you're essentially teaching them to pee on that versus going outside. And so I do think for some dogs, not for all and not for all families, for some dogs, they would never get used to going outside then because they're used to peeing on the puppy pads, right? Not the case for everybody, I'm aware. Same kind of thinking. Concept for a human. If they know that they have to go to the bathroom, why wouldn't you just put them on

the toilet? Because, one, the toilet, you don't have to clean up typically. And that's where they're going to have to go to the bathroom for the rest of their lives. They cannot go. First of all, if I grew up and as an adult, I found out that my mom potty trained me on puppy pads. Puppy pads? I would be pissed.

No, I'm literally suing you for post-traumatic stress disorder and I'm truly like there's a lawsuit happening because that's not normal. And like how are you peeing on it? You have to get naked then because you can't just like. Are you just like popping a squat and going and I'm pretty sure like I don't know all puppy pads like I'm not super versed on them, but a human peeing, puppy pads are typically used for like training purposes

and a full grown dog with like a large bladder is not gonna be using like this puppy pad. Puppy pad, right. Wouldn't that like go through to the floor? They have to be like diapers where they can only absorb a certain amount of liquid. Also, where does she poop? Maybe a puppy pad.

No, that's, that has to be like child abuse to some degree. Like that. If I ever found out, let's just say I was like divorced before potty training took place and I found out that Will Campbell was training my kid on a potty pad, absolutely calling Department of Social Services, Child Protective Services. I'm filing for an emergency petition for custody. Yeah, that's not normal.

Now I've heard, actually one of my girlfriends was over here yesterday, and she was talking about potty training her little boy. And she said, I'm giving giving up like he's not ready And when he's ready, he'll be ready. He'll let me know Not doing this and I told her about the cheerio Thing where he chearios like yeah to aim and she was like oh, I've never heard of that. That's such a good idea I'm cool with like those types of transitions. Yeah, but transitioning from a puppy pad to a toilet

You might as well just sit and piss in a diaper. Yeah, I'm from a puppy pad to a toilet. You might as well just sit and piss in a diaper. Yeah, I'm out. I'm out on that. I'm pissed off by that. And that's like, and she said she's heard of crazy potty trading techniques. I haven't. This is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. The craziest thing. Okay, next foul play. This person says quick holy day, holy day. Story to share. I have to say I have to stay anonymous just in case a select few hear this. Okay, so is this person acknowledging the fact that she's writing in and she also knows other people who listen to this podcast. I'm pretty sure. Anyways, a few Christmas Eves ago, I got a text from my buddy, so I found a reason to step out for a few. I get there and had to sneak into his house like I was 15 because his kid was there. I'm talking,

dodging doorways and holding my breath because I was so scared to make noise. So we did the thing and I thought, damn, that was the most sketchy and slick shit that I've ever done in a while. Listen, I relate to this way more than you know. Well, that thought was ruined by a knock on the door and a dad, are you done? I put my hand over my mouth to contain my cackles as I stood there, pantless and mortified. He looked at me and said, don't move. If he doesn't go back to bed, you have to go out the window. Thankfully, my girl in ass was able to ninja my way back down the hall and run to my car.

I laughed so hard and cried. I cried the entire way home. Love you guys. Okay. I'm going to tell myself, Will and I did this sketchy behavior to hide from our own child for a little bit after the worst. Okay. Yeah. Me also as well. Oh, you did this sketchy behavior to hide from our own child for like a little bit after divorce. Okay, yeah, me also as well. Oh, you did this as well?

Nothing's more mortifying. The thoughts of even explaining that, like the trauma is like bad enough as it is. It's like, how do you explain that away? But I can tell you right now, if somebody told me to jump out the window, you're immediately getting punched in the face. I mean, at that, yeah, no, I'm not at 31 years old.

I'm not jumping out a window. Um, I'm just not going to do it. You can take your son outside or your kid outside out back and be like, let's go check the mail or like out front, go check the mail and I can leave. Um, but yeah, I'm not jumping out a window. I need to know how many other people have jumped out of windows and these types of situations. a window. I need to know how many other people have jumped out of windows and these types of situations. And on that note, I have some shopping that I need to do online. So I'm

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