Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Our Weekend Activities

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

Seems like Kail and Lindsie are on the same cycle because both had very big moments occur in their relationships this past weekend. Kail finally goes to Red Lobster and is OBSESSED with their cheddar ...biscuits. And yes, Kail saw the story about the lady going to the hospital after holding in her fart in front of her boyfriend... Lindsie relates. And question.. Are women better cheaters than men?   Kail and Lindsie discuss the There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane documentary. Lindsie answers some listeners questions. And for this week's double play of Foul Play - How would you feel if you caught your parent's banging? Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a place Body Guardz: Go to BodyGuardz.com/Coffee to protect your phone today Calm: Visit CALM.COM/convos for 40% off a Calm Premium subscription Cerebral: Go to Cerebral.com/convos for 65% off your first month Huggies: Learn more on Huggies.com  Jinx: Get 15% off your first two orders online at thinkjinx.com/COFFEECONVOS Stride K-12: Personalize your child’s education at K12.com/podcasts

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift-giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay Hello everyone. Happy Monday. I Was just trying to send a text to suburban dads. Let him know that was in coffee combos recording and you just Terrified me and startled me. Good morning Buenos dias. It's Monday morning for us. It's Thursday morning or Thursday afternoon for all of our coffee combos
Starting point is 00:00:53 kitty gang Honey, there we've got listeners on here that listen when this bitch drops at 4 a.m. I know I More power to them. I wish we could know those ones that listen like as soon as it drops because I Don't know that I would get up at that time ever Well, some of these people who are listening might be on their way to work. Like you don't know what your shit is, you know I wonder if hot neighbor boyfriend listens on his way to work because he's up at 4 30 I'm gonna ask him and we like do you listen to coffee combos?
Starting point is 00:01:28 We have so much to talk about today and I just don't even know where to start wait I have to tell you so on the southern tee. I I was having this exact conversation with Caroline. I was like does your boyfriend listen and she was like, well No, I don't think so and I'm like he has to listen right like people are definitely spying Yeah, and she's like, you know how I know that he doesn't listen Because we'd be in so many more fights and he would know so much more about my life if he actually did No, that's so true because my ex when I thought he didn't listen He would never we never fought but then when I realized that he was like secretly listening and then like fighting with me about stuff
Starting point is 00:02:07 I was like, uh, this is not gonna work. This is not gonna work I literally have to be able to podcast about you because you are my muse, right? Like you are on congems so Wait, I have on on that topic though I have to talk about that for a second because Sometimes I feel like people get butthurt if you talk about them Not anyone specifically in my life currently but like used to people would get butthurt about it and I'm like You do realize that I run two weekly podcast about my life a week
Starting point is 00:02:42 And so if I was not talking about my actual life and the things that were going on Then it wouldn't be fun and it wouldn't be honest So you either have to decide that if you say something that's funny or something that I want to tell I'm probably gonna tell it But I won't expose your identity. Yes, it's so it's like there's like a fine line where we can talk about The things that happen in our everyday lives knowing that some of these people would not necessarily want to be Like exposed and so I do try to like tread a little bit lately I mean most of the people they just don't care like if I bring them up
Starting point is 00:03:20 Like phone for example shit in your mudroom like so for that I did ask her like can I tell that story? And so she like she's she's like whatever but some people I don't even I wouldn't even like dare to say their actual names because I Don't want to like upset them in any way or whatever and like no one would know it was them but there is like a fine line like We have to basically guess like if we haven't had that conversation with someone like we would have to just conceal their identity Because we didn't have that conversation. Does that make sense? Yes, and like we're not out here exposing listeners who like type into us You know unless unless it's like appropriate to do so. Yeah So yeah, anyway, you and I had a kind of similar weekend. We did and I was surprised that we were like aligned
Starting point is 00:04:08 So for our listeners I texted I texted Lindsay knows like I'm going to meet hot neighbor boyfriends parents any last words like any final thoughts because I Had said I didn't want to meet them and like not that I didn't want to but like just very nervous and I don't want him to have to explain himself or me to have to explain myself and You said just like be yourself and I just was like unless I'm in a business meeting or shitting myself like there I don't know who kale is like I have no fucking clue. Oh Oh my god, I was like just be the kale that is the kale around me and Kristen
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't know if they're ready for that yet. You know and you're like well you guys are like my sisters Yeah, so I can do any like it. I would never Like it would just be fine, but I will say that it ended up going really well His mom and dad are so sweet like they are so back up. This is like a big deal because I Yeah, I just want to say I feel like out of all the situations that you have been in in your life with the baby daddies and You know the ex-husband and all these situations I feel like nothing has really been done. What I would call like traditional
Starting point is 00:05:29 Mm-hmm This situation to me seems the most traditional out of any situation that you have been in before. Yeah. Yeah so The last time I was like formally and I I'm using air quotes Introduced to anyone's family was when I was almost nine months pregnant with Lux Chris had his family come over to my house for a barbecue To meet them and I was like literally weeks away from giving birth And he was like just not he didn't he wasn't part of the conversation
Starting point is 00:06:05 He went and played basketball with his friends. So I'm literally just sitting there Yeah, so it was really really difficult and so when Elijah was asking me like why I was so nervous I was like I literally haven't been introduced to anyone's family in over five years So, I mean the last family that I had dinner with was probably Hobbies parents What was it about it that you were just like so scared or is it because you're so in love with him that you just like wanted to be accepted by them So I I yeah, I want to be accepted
Starting point is 00:06:36 But I know how important Elijah's family is to him like he's such a family person And he's really close with his parents and just I don't know like I I know how important that is for him And so that's one thing and then another thing is like it's not equal, right? Like I don't have a family to introduce somebody to and so I don't have someone in my corner That's gonna have my back during my relationships or you know It's it's not equal where it's like, okay, I'm gonna meet your parents. You're gonna meet my parents And we both have that kind of thing going on And so that's really hard for me because I'm like everyone I'm with this has it so easy
Starting point is 00:07:15 they never have to meet my parents or like answer to my parents or They never have to worry about like me balancing time between them and my family or like them coming to my family events and their family events And then lastly like just having to explain my situation on why I have three baby dads and four kids is like The thought of it is a little bit humiliating The logical side of my brain is like, okay, me and Joe were really young. We were 17 years old I was married to Harvey and then me and Chris had a toxic relationship for five years. So I think Logically speaking, it's like, okay over the course of the past 12 years like it's not that bad But then the side of I think that part
Starting point is 00:08:03 because you struggle with this all the time and I think that a lot of it has to do with The fact of the way that the show has followed your story for so long Mm-hmm and the way that certain things are depicted Well, I think some of my cringiest and most ignorant embarrassing moments are more so highlighted than my accomplishments and my my Milestones like positive milestones, you know, and so I think a lot of my positive Traits and qualities and things that I've done have been minimized and so they're not memorable I mean for people who listen to the podcast, they know
Starting point is 00:08:43 But you know people who are not Kale fans and are just like indifferent or maybe they don't like me at all They forget the things that I've I've actually gone through to make me who I am and also the things that I truly have accomplished and so I Don't want them to ever like his parents to watch the show and be like what the fuck, you know I want them to know who I am from knowing me personally Well, that would be so hard. So I had no idea that you Had met Chris's family when you were nine months pregnant. Yes, they came empty-handed every single one of them came empty hand except for his mom brought me a little bamboo plant to a barbecue and
Starting point is 00:09:24 Chris went and played basketball and I got into I Was so embarrassed because his one aunt was like you knew about his other girlfriend, whatever whatever and I was like actually I didn't I was like actually Chris and I had a miscarriage before we got pregnant with Lux and she was mad because I was trying to make it known But I was just trying to explain myself that no, I didn't know that he was in another relationship I was I was told that it was done and she was like Not we just like didn't vibe right away and Chris was never he was never there to diffuse it
Starting point is 00:09:57 He was never there to have my back about you know his part and you know, he lied So it was really hard for me because I just want I knew how close they were and I wanted to be accepted by them And I wanted them to understand that I had nothing but good intentions for him And I don't think that ever really came across to be honest. So this situation Was totally different totally different. It was one-on-one with his parents and We didn't really Actually one thing that his mom said was so funny to me
Starting point is 00:10:31 And I don't know if it was funny But we were talking about like our families and she said something about like oh Something about like growing up and you know at family functions and I said, oh, I never had I never had that like I never we never had a barbecue in my life The only thing that my family ever got together for was Christmas Thanksgiving and then one of my cousin's baby showers And that's literally it like we never had a family barbecue. We never had a family outing We never had a family vacation like nothing and she the way that she looked at me when I said that we didn't I never went to a Family barbecue was like I had five heads and I like now I'm laughing about it, but I don't know if she
Starting point is 00:11:17 Like You're like This is okay. Um, do do other do you did you grow up having barbecues and stuff? Oh god Well, my grandparents always was like the house that Hosted everything and it was an open-door policy So everybody could like come and go as they pleased so you never knew who was gonna be where at dinner When you showed up like you never had any idea. So I definitely did grow up with more like people around
Starting point is 00:11:53 But not really like what I would say like family backyard Barbecues necessarily. Okay. Um, it was just like at nanny's table But I love that nanny's table. That should be a podcast Nanny's table we should that that's a good one. I will run it by her Um, if she's not still pissed off about the prank call wait, so hot neighbor has no kids no kids his Parents have other children. Yes. He's the youngest of four. Okay, and oh, so he's the baby. He's the baby. He's
Starting point is 00:12:31 Their family is Huge like I thought Joe and Javi's families were big When his mom told me that she's one of nine and there's 50 cousins I couldn't I could not believe it. I couldn't believe it wait So you had to tell me where you went like did you go to their house? Did you know dress up? Okay, so We went to Red Lobster, which I don't eat seafood the cheese biscuits So I have never been to a Red Lobster in my entire life. What no this was the first time And I felt like Kim Kardashian when she passed the board when she passed the bar
Starting point is 00:13:09 And I was like this is going to set up what I am going to accomplish in the next five years I'm gonna go to law school I'm gonna pass the bar and I'm this Red Lobster is everything because I'm also gonna pass the bar and find out in Red Lobster parking lot I told Elijah if he ever passes a Red Lobster and doesn't bring home biscuits. We aren't together anymore Stop this was there's so good. I've never had anything like it. No wait So you can actually buy in the grocery store the bag of like Red Lobster brand biscuits Okay, so we're gonna need to do that because yeah, I'm so good So he said that his dad's favorite restaurant is Red Lobster
Starting point is 00:13:47 I was like, okay, like do they have other things besides lobster lobster and he was like, yeah And the other thing is like I don't really eat in front of people especially like on dates or whatever And I don't think I don't think Elijah and I have ever been out to eat together except for one time Well, and then, you know, you've got like the IBS issue and like On the way to Red Lobster, he's driving and I'm digging through my purse and I'm like, where is the emotium because I don't know what's gonna happen if I eat Red Lobster Like I don't know what is gonna. I've never had their food. So I'm like, let me take this Emotium or whatever and immediately the bartender so we sit at the bar because there's no weight and
Starting point is 00:14:28 And The bartender immediately knows who I am. She says she's a huge fan. She lives down the street from me Lottie da His mom looks at me and goes I had no idea who you were and I was like, no, that's a good thing. I prefer it that way That's so precious. I love that. She did it now. She's so nice and she's a twin So I thought that was like really cool. Um, and yeah, no, they were so nice. They were great This episode of coffee combos is brought to you by Huggies special delivery diapers So we have a lot in common. You guys know that one of those things as you know is that we're both moms we're both boy moms and
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Starting point is 00:17:10 Why don't you tell the kitty gang what you did this weekend? Okay? Well my weekend Was like an impromptu I watched a lot of TV this weekend Which is something that I just like do not regularly do but it was like a nice laid-back weekend I typically wash Jackson's sheets like when he goes to wills and they're clean whenever he comes back So like took care of that took care of like some chores went to the gym watched
Starting point is 00:17:40 There's something wrong with aunt Diane We're gonna cover that in just a little bit, but watch that watched machine gun Kelly documentary I'm gonna talk about that on this other and tea this week and then also All of you Virgin River fans that are posted in the coffee combos fan Facebook page. I just have to tell you I saw the new trailer for it and For season four, I'm so excited that show is so damn good And this is noticed to suburban dad If you are listening if you don't stop with the commentary when we are watching my favorite show
Starting point is 00:18:19 That I intentionally don't watch unless I am with him You're banned from like watching Virgin River. No, literally. Why did why didn't men do that? Because I I told the kids last night? I said every night this week. We're watching a Disney Channel original movie and because I need them to understand like what raised me and I put on double teamed yesterday because I thought maybe Lincoln would like that and the whole time Elijah Lincoln and Isaac are just Commenting on this shit, and I'm like, can y'all just shut the fuck up. I didn't say that but in my head. I'm like, can y'all be quiet Mentally stop talking like we do not need the commentary of the best show ever right now because I am invested and I need to hear every word I need to see every scene and you are really killing the vibes
Starting point is 00:19:12 So watch a little bit of Virgin River and then I got embarrassed I got invited on a family walk with suburban dad and his kids and Then we went to dinner had a combo of Chick-fil-A and Mexican food and then wait with kids or without the kids with the kids Okay, and then we also went to see minions this weekend and did some fireworks and And that is so cute. So, um, yeah, how did it go? It went really well. Um, I Was actually really really nervous and I cried on the way over there because it was just like one of those moments that I was like this could be a
Starting point is 00:20:01 Moment that is like a part of the rest of my life Yeah, yeah, and I was just like crying and trying to fix I stopped at the neighborhood before I got there and like fixed my makeup. So I didn't look like I had been crying Took them little surprises and Text my mom on the way there and said that I remember the first time I ever met her and when my dad brought her around and She taught me how to make paper hearts And that was I guess an impactful moment of my life because I still remember it to this day and
Starting point is 00:20:44 She said don't worry like they're gonna love you just you know be yourself and Whatever and it was a really good experience His kids are really great and he and his ex-wife have done a really really good job raising them So I feel very blessed. I literally said that to Elijah's mom I said, I just want to tell you that you you did a fantastic job with your son Like you guys did such a good job. She was like it was him too like pointing to her as when I was like Oh, no, like I'm saying this about both of you like you guys did a fantastic job like such a good job, you know I think that's probably like the best compliment ever is
Starting point is 00:21:21 For someone to tell you that you did like a really good job raising your kids. Oh my gosh If someone said that to me, I think I would I would cry people say that all the time Hands down I would cry like people say that to me now, but I want to know where they're at I want to see how my kids You're like, let's see if they're saying the same thing when I'm raising like 20 year olds. Yeah, um Okay, so now that we have been sappy and don't want to cry I saw this one article on Hollywood unlocked Mm-hmm, and I just need to tell you about it. Okay, so it says
Starting point is 00:21:58 has Woman ends up I know where this is I already know which one you're talking about in wheelchair after holding in farts around her boyfriend I cannot tell you how many times people tagged me in this and You know what I'm at a point with Elijah that if he So last night when we were watching double teamed I had like my feet across his lap and I had I sneezed and I almost farted at the same time and I I Almost feel like that would be like a better icebreaker than just like ripping one
Starting point is 00:22:33 You know what I mean? So I almost feel like I wish that one would like accidentally sneak out and just like break the ice for me But I refuse to end up in a wheelchair for holding in gas So but I'm not super gassy like I'm just not super gassy But I keep I still go upstairs to go to the bathroom like to go poop and he was like if you don't get down here and go in Our bathroom, and I'm like, I just can't do it like if you hear me fart. I will die Okay, well, I have to tell you that Kids are so funny like the way that they out you on things
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, yeah, and one thing that I learned about suburban dad this weekend from one of his kids Was that he lifts his butt in his truck and farts on them? Oh Oh my god And you were like, oh, that's not the that's not the tea that I was expecting me here, but okay, it's really not That's also, you know that I should be his girlfriend but the farting was was the best one, you know to be honest because The experience that I have had is just that he farts into my brand new couch So got it, you know
Starting point is 00:23:46 That's what kind of person that we're dealing with this as a Resilient influencer who reportedly was scared to fart in front of her boyfriend ended up in a wheelchair for holding them in too long She was at a music festival in Portugal with her boyfriend when she started experiencing this abdominal pain She revealed to her 23.4 million followers that the abdominal pain was caused by holding in gas and Then tagged the singer that had a similar incident in March where she actually ended up in a hospital Oh my god Yeah This also says if you guys have any tips or suggestions or you know like want to talk to them about this story
Starting point is 00:24:32 You can text the word tip to three one zero three eight eight six four six three No Some of the comments on here. I will post this on coffee combos story So that you guys can see it, but somebody said death before dishonor I swear I go look at things for the comments like People are so funny death same. I'm done like I am done. That is so funny, but like 2324 million followers and then so you're not willing to fart in front of your boyfriend But you're willing to tell your followers
Starting point is 00:25:12 It was do the same shit that we do on coffee. Yeah, I would never Right. You're right. You're like you're literally talking about shitting yourself and then like acting like with hot neighbor That you've never even Tooted Make it make sense, right? I cannot I just yeah, I mean I expose myself regularly on this podcast, but I can't I Don't know. Okay. Listen to this tiktok. Okay. Mm-hmm. This is on a completely unrelated note Guys know when they've been added to a roster
Starting point is 00:25:49 Do guys know when guys have been added to a girl's roster? Oh, don't trip. You got you I don't think so. I don't think so because the girls are sneaky sneaky sneaky I feel like guys always assume they're the player not the one getting played Oh, but grubby grubby just as good a player as the guys be so That was crazy, I thought it was the only one but look at the draw look at the draw hopefully you the best one Hopefully you the best one. I mean, they're not wrong. I mean girl women just are better cheaters. They are You feel like that? Yeah, I mean unfortunately, I think it's sad to admit, but yeah, I think girls are just they cover their tracks better
Starting point is 00:26:33 Why do you think this because I've done it when when when? You're about to out yourself. Yeah a hundred percent Um, after five Go ahead After five years of truly toxic Relationship I took everything that he that he essentially taught me and I did it towards the end Oh, wow I'm going to have people on my roster so that when you're done
Starting point is 00:27:03 When you're having your little disappearing act for three or four days Don't wonder where the fuck I am because I'm on number two on my roster Now you're benched. You're fucking benched. I I cannot now when he found out now. I'm a hoe I cannot okay, so I have to give my opinion about this. Um I think that everybody has probably had a roster at some point in their life And if you say that you haven't you're probably a liar. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that But I will say I don't think that you can truly
Starting point is 00:27:38 Know the full potential of a relationship Unless that is the only person a hundred percent And further having a roster is fucking exhausting Kale knows because she had a whole baseball team Probably not a baseball team, but Basketball team from like basketball football, whatever. Um At the end it was like year six. It was like you're disappearing for days on end But it's exhausting and I like that at that point. I just wanted to be by myself
Starting point is 00:28:10 Like I was just like I don't even want to have this fucking roster until I just stopped responding to fucking everybody um But yeah, I mean as time goes on I'm more willing to talk about it and be Upfront about it because that's my truth and Um, if I'm a hoe for doing the same shit that he that he did to me, then I guess I'm a hoe There is no better feeling than being able to send a text to people that you communicated with when you were a single person
Starting point is 00:28:41 And be like, hey, just want to let you know I am in a committed relationship and I don't feel like we should be communicating. Um, if you want me to list out the reasons Why I feel like we shouldn't be communicating. I will do that if that is not necessary. Please basically take this as your notice um No better feeling and then hitting that block button it's I um, it's real glorious sweetheart. Like I would never at this point in my life Like I would never
Starting point is 00:29:09 And if I didn't if I wasn't feeling it with hot neighbor I would just just let him know And I would move on I would not entertain other people while I'm with him because it's so exhausting It takes up too much time Um, and it's just not it's not fun anymore. I think people that have a roster for years and years and years. I'm like I could never I think that specifically in my situation that There's a responsibility there when you're dating somebody that has children. Yeah, and you have a child that
Starting point is 00:29:41 The intent has to be very different than yes, you know that so I just not a thing not a thing for me before we start talking about there's something wrong with aunt diane though I just did just want to say I know a lot of people had sent messages about the gabby potato 2020 Um special and once that does become available for us to be able to watch somewhere online We will be covering it. So just take notice on that Okay, you guys so our entire lives are on our phones and we use them to plan summer vacations Which is actually what I did yesterday. So I can't wait to tell you about that Listen to podcast and connect with the world. So why are they so fragile?
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Starting point is 00:33:01 For listeners of the show calm is offering an exclusive offer of 40 off a calm premium subscription At calm calm slash combos go to calm Dot com slash combos for 40 off unlimited access to calm's entire library. That's calm calm slash combos um took a lot of notes on There's something wrong with aunt diane and I did not think that it was going to be That interesting to be honest kyle like I really didn't everything that I say to you. You're like, uh, I don't want like I you just don't think like it gives me the
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, and then and then you watch it and you're like, oh And I feel the same way like sometimes i'm like, should I even really bother with this like girl in the picture? I don't know if you got to watch that at all, but I also covering it next week. Okay next week. Well I had the same feeling about that everyone kept saying girl in the picture girl in the picture girl in the picture And I was just like, oh like I don't even want to watch it. And then I was shocked and mortified and appalled So I actually watched There's something wrong with aunt diane on saturday and I watched the entire episode on youtube But it is available on hbo max for those of you who have it and those of you who don't you can find the entire episode on youtube
Starting point is 00:34:15 Um before we get started. Um, I am going to issue a trigger warning part of this segment We'll contain graphic discussions from an accident scene that may be disturbing to some listeners um okay, so First I just want to say that I never ever want to talk negatively about The dead dead. Yeah, that was like one of my biggest things so lindsay and I were talking or texting briefly and When we know that we're going to discuss something on the podcast. We try not to have a conversation and text about it in case we have Completely different thoughts. Um, but I said the same thing in text to lindsay. I was like it's this is like
Starting point is 00:34:59 A trigger warning for that too because you know, you know, you don't want people to talk negatively about the dead And especially if it's one of your loved ones and so um In no way is this meant to you know Sabotage dianne's reputation or anything like that just our our thoughts based on what we saw in the documentary Um, and so if any of your relatives or family members are listening that you know, we're sorry. This is not meant to upset anyone so this story starts um, july 26 2009 when dianne
Starting point is 00:35:34 Drove the wrong way on the tachonic. Is that how you say it tachonic parkway? I think so. Yeah For almost two miles crashing and killing eight people. Um, including herself her daughter three nieces um, and then All three people in the oncoming vehicle. There was one survivor. Um, and it was her five year old son brian um, and At the time of this documentary it was the footage was when he was like six years old. So I didn't know Time-wise like this happened in 2009. So maybe some of the footage was from like when he was six
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah, I I do think I think it's older footage. Yeah So he sustained serious head injury um in the crash and as a result Um, he's suffering from ocula oculomotor nerve palsy affecting movement in his right eye Um, her husband said in an interview Must have been from like a news clip or something like that on this documentary that she was a perfect wife outstanding mother reliable and trustworthy And I just want to touch on that a little bit because as much as she could have been all of these things
Starting point is 00:36:55 In his mind, um, and all these things to other people sometimes I think that people struggle Internally and are able to live. I don't really want to say necessarily a double life um, but able to hide things that they do that he might not have been knowledgeable of I'm not quite sure if that is the case here because As we Talk deeper. I think that maybe there's just some denial there I definitely feel the same way. Um
Starting point is 00:37:32 And I will call a spade a spade. I do think she lived a double life okay so august 4th 2009, uh, the state police held a press conference and released the autopsy reports, um toxicology report blood alcohol content of point one nine 9% which is approximately 10 drinks and a high level of thc um I don't Think that science ever lies. So
Starting point is 00:38:04 for me the results were what what they were and I can understand as grieving family Why you would want to doubt this and not want to believe this but, um, I just don't see how It could have been anything else. Well, right And so I I definitely think that when you're in pain and when you're grieving sometimes you're looking for answers that um Maybe go against the truth a little bit because it is hard It's hard to fathom and truly wrap your head around, you know, this person that I was with for x amount of years and have children with etc
Starting point is 00:38:39 could have potentially lived a double life and and caused Something so tragic, you know, and so that's really really difficult and I and I understand that um That being said I think I think maybe in years to come maybe they will They will be able to sit with it and and truly understand that As unfortunate as it was like accidents do happen and it is possible that maybe she did live a double life
Starting point is 00:39:07 So Her husband was talking about how where they were camping That it should have been a 30 minute drive Back and it ended up taking her four hours. Um, he talked about how she did not drink and that she did not have Since abuse issues that, you know Something medically had to have happened and as much as something medically could have happened What medically could have happened happened
Starting point is 00:39:37 In my opinion from the result of the drinking and the combination of The marijuana, I don't that just doesn't show. I think the thc the thc thing um Because the husband did say that she smoked occasionally I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure it does it can stay in your system. So it very well may have been that she didn't smoke, you know in the in the several in the several days leading up to it No, because in that documentary it A doctor went on there and said
Starting point is 00:40:12 From like the autopsy That the levels that were in her system showed that she could have smoked anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour before she had the accident So I just don't believe that I think that okay. I didn't I completely forgot about that part. You're right. I wonder if it's like, um Like if I was to smoke today and knock on wood, I hope I don't pass away this week, but um If I was to smoke today and then Later on this week pass away with the thc be in my system, but at such low levels at that point I don't know, but evidently the way that they do these
Starting point is 00:40:49 tests through the toxicology They're able to gauge, you know when She would have done this so You know, I believe I believe the science on this, um Supposedly she was to stop at the stores She was going to go to mcdonald's to get the kid something to eat and then to the gas station to get gas so her and her husband left at the same time, um within a few minutes of each other and
Starting point is 00:41:19 the Stopping at mcdonald's was pre-planned like that was already in the plan and on the cameras It said that she did not seem to be intoxicated and the person who took her order also said that she seemed sober I thought that was interesting and then same for the gas station when she stopped and got gas She's caught on camera. She looks completely sober and She seemed to be looking for like tylenall or adville or something Well, she actually asked the clerk there for pain medication
Starting point is 00:41:51 Um and said that there was no signs of intoxication at that time either However, unless she was acting. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here. No signs of intoxication if someone isn't acting erratic Um is able to speak without, you know, like slurring speech whatever um I don't know that I would pick up if somebody was Intoxicated or not if I was working at mcdonald's or the gas station Let's let me just say my mom was a functioning alcoholic is a functioning alcoholic. My mom has gone to work
Starting point is 00:42:29 Fucked up. I called the police the police physically went to her job And said there was no signs of intoxication Yeah, like but as her as her daughter I knew that she should not have gotten behind the wheel and gone to work and furthermore cut people's hair while she was intoxicated But the police went to her job and called me back and said there is no signs of intoxication. So I mean people can live double lives and people can be functioning drug addicts or
Starting point is 00:42:57 and or alcoholics even the Woman who owned the hunter lake campground said that she certainly seemed sober and I mean, who knows but I don't feel like somebody um Has this high level of a blood alcohol content Gets behind a vehicle with children. I feel like this is a pattern of things that she probably was Used to doing. I don't think this was a one-time occurrence that this happened. I think it was just like extreme
Starting point is 00:43:30 I agree. Um, because she also At some point. I don't remember which one they said was on the phone with Saying something's wrong with aunt Diane and she leaves her phone Under a bridge when she's pulling over and she's she also pulled over several times looking like she was going to be sick so There was the phone call from the car and she sounded completely out of sort to that point the kids were crying in the background The oldest niece was on the phone Um saying that something was wrong with aunt Diane and that's when they were pulled over at that point
Starting point is 00:44:03 And the phone was left on the side of the bridge. I mean you have to be pretty intoxicated to leave your phone I did want to say that. Um I think that There was some pain Obviously, there's like dental records if you guys watch this documentary. There were some dental records that she had an abscess tooth um at the end of
Starting point is 00:44:26 documentary To me it just showed how much in denial that the husband and jay were Um trying to put all of this back on the tooth abscess and saying that it could have caused a stroke But the doctor that is you know in this last scene says there was no stroke um And that that was just like an insane Theory that that could have happened
Starting point is 00:44:53 Um, I do think that she was dealing with Something going on in her life could have stemmed from childhood trauma Um, she was born in 1973 grew up in floral park, new york She was the fourth child and the only girl and at nine years old Her mother left the family And I think that there could have been some like abandonment issues that she was dealing with there um, but also they said that the mother actually Had a relationship with her three older brothers and diane was the only one that was not receptive to having a relationship with her mom
Starting point is 00:45:30 And that her mom did try and diane declined But I think as much as someone else tries that doesn't take away the trauma true. This is true I mean, that's that's like if my mom were to be like Hey, kaylin, like let's have a relationship now. I would be like you traumatized me my whole life like Sure, we can have a relationship but the trauma is not going to go away. So that's a good point So witnesses say that they saw Her get off at a truck stop and she looked as if she was going to be sick to her stomach Like she was hunched over like she was, you know, throwing up
Starting point is 00:46:03 When they came back out She was gone. Um They said in hindsight they wish they would have done something about it then and had they known that there was kids in the car that they would have um And I say all of that to say not to to shame these people in any way but like if you see something that does not look right, I think always err on the side of caution and Do what would probably be like the extreme thing to do And if it's nothing then it's nothing but if it's something then you could have saved someone's life
Starting point is 00:46:36 I just I don't think I've ever It's hard because I don't know if I've ever been in that situation. It's kind of like when people They say like if someone's being raped or whatever like no one really wants to help But if you scream fire then all of a sudden people will call like I think people just expect other people to do something about it They're like, oh, I'm not going to call. I'm not going to go check. Someone else will do it Um, which is kind of scary to think about there also
Starting point is 00:47:03 Was a bottle of absolute vodka found that was in the van And again the husband says that They would keep that in their camper and that he packed the bags put them in the van um I don't think that's true. I think that he knew At that point that you know, she had been drinking Which why would you allow her to get in the car then with the kids? I don't think that he knew how much she had been drinking
Starting point is 00:47:30 But I think that he knew like once he knew that the vodka was in the car that He probably knew that There was a likely chance that she had been drinking. Right. Um There was a doctor that was enlisted to review the police reports and the footage to come up with like a forensic psychiatric autopsy Um, and you know, he said there's many things that you know, could be questioned And is it possible that because gel caps weren't available for her to be able to Treat this tooth abscess could she have taken a drink to relax the pain and then you know
Starting point is 00:48:10 You know taken too much Is it a possibility? Yes possible like very possible, but To the extent of 10 drinks. I think that that that is extreme. Um, this family Did hire um, this man called named tom ruskins and they wanted him to conduct like his own investigation And that investigation included dianne's friends family canvassing the campground root for leads obtaining video footage from The gas station and according to They they also claimed that like he didn't do an investigation and you know,
Starting point is 00:48:54 He took their money, but he claimed that all monies were spent on um activities and lab tests and of course family had a completely different story Everyone says that the autopsy results Um from like the medical perspective are consistent Everyone said that that's why I think this is a lot of it is the the pain and the grieving Um, and them not wanting to believe the truth because Now you have two autopsy results that say the same thing or the two testings that say the same thing
Starting point is 00:49:28 Um, they had arranged to have dna tests done to match dianne's dna to the toxicology reports. Those also came back consistent with the the dna match that you know toxicology reports I think the only way for this to have been a mistake was if they tested it and then gave the wrong person's results back Uh, great because I don't know if you guys remember, but over I guess it was in january This past january we took the football team to atlanta and um They called me and told me I had covet and but then I got literally less than 24 hours later They called me back and said that there was a mistake with my results. Um, and I actually don't have covet so yes mistakes can happen, but
Starting point is 00:50:13 I believe what my email said I'd have to go back and check was that mine were I think they were um mixed up with people who were positive See that's so scary. You know, however I think that that is a completely different story You know, however, I think that that is a completely because there was so many people that had to take covet tests like in that situation that There's more margin for error like this literally was dna from her body They ran the toxicology on that. Yeah then
Starting point is 00:50:44 rematch the dna to confirm that the toxicology matched the dna so I just don't see again. I don't want to talk about the dead, but I definitely think that she was experiencing um Possibly some type of mental health things going on um, it did say in this documentary the early loss or trauma pre to put pre Disp... predisposes to mood disorders and addictive disorders and statistically she was at risk for that so um
Starting point is 00:51:16 Not saying that was the case, but I think that's the case I don't know if you found this as um, and I know the anger is can be a part of grieving. I know that um And I'm really not one to speak on this because I talked about potentially getting an abortion with creed and stuff like that but His six-year-old son. He says, you know, he's angry because he never wanted kids and so now he has to Revolve his life around raising his son by himself and he's mad because he didn't want kids and
Starting point is 00:51:47 um He also doesn't really give his son a chance to like really grieve and like grasp everything And kind of dismisses his son's feelings and jay talked about that. She said that You know, the dad just I forget what the dad's name is um Yeah, I forget what his name is. Um, he like kind of dismisses when you know, his son's crying about his mom and his sister and um Jay was saying that the dad doesn't really see him because he worked nights and as soon as he gets home from school
Starting point is 00:52:18 He's off to work and so I That really upset me because you would think that this would actually bring them together versus like I don't know I don't know. I think sometimes that people can bond over trauma, but then sometimes maybe
Starting point is 00:52:37 Him I just hate to say this but maybe it's like a constant reminder for him Like I don't I don't know like he only has part of his family versus all or nothing Yeah, and I mean that's sad, but ultimately The child is a child, right? And so I I viewed the husband as as a selfish person In that regard because it it's more about his feelings than his child. So didn't love that And we know I love my king Corsos and I absolutely love keeping them healthy and I like keeping their coat fresh and no dander
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Starting point is 00:56:13 Her name was brook. Um, so brook if you're listening she said listening to today's episode and I had two things on my mind Question for lindsay. Did you and will build the house together or did you know before you started building that you were going to get Divorced because you've been building a house for a while before you said you were getting the divorce So did you already know in your mind and this question has come up on? The southern tea it's come up in my dm. So I just wanted to address this here um, I think that when You are nearing the end of
Starting point is 00:56:46 Your relationship with someone and and for as long as will and I work together um That you go through moments of like okay. Well, can we make this work and You know, do we really want to give up yet? And I think that through the process of Me moving and I don't know if I've talked about this before But I had wanted to be in the neighborhood that I'm in now for several years since it, you know started developing
Starting point is 00:57:15 And it was something that he didn't want he wanted to be on land and you know I wanted to do a neighborhood like this kind of slow down with life a little bit It was kind of more of like a turnkey environment where it had long service and you know, we could really enjoy Time and that was just not something that he was wanting to do So can I just say that I don't think any neighborhoods in my area offer long service Really? No, I don't think that's a thing here. I'd have to look it up, but I do not think so So, yeah, lawn maintenance is a part of my HOA
Starting point is 00:57:51 And so I thought this would be like a really nice thing to do. Um Kale and I had one of my girlfriends britney Uh price booker on this podcast a couple of years ago and she had talked about kind of, um Just taking time away from everything and just focusing on the family so like not putting the kids into sports and I Felt very led to do that And so that was kind of my reasoning of why I wanted to move into this neighborhood and so
Starting point is 00:58:24 So we had originally been under contract on another lot in this neighborhood And the timeline was a little bit longer than this one and once I realized I took one last trip Last ditch effort with will to charlotte to my girlfriend katie Moomoo's and macaroons She used to host with me on the southern tee. We went to her daughter's first birthday party and we were just going to make a couple strip out of it and that was like the last ditch effort
Starting point is 00:58:57 and will got shit-faced and um, it wasn't really that great of a time and then we ended up coming home a day early and Immediately I knew when we got back that I was filing for divorce. So at that point um The contract on the house that I am in now had fallen through a financing And it was going to be ready in july and I was in the process of like and I don't know if you ever experienced this kale, but like Not knowing what to do I didn't know if I needed to get like an apartment or if I needed to like find a townhouse or like
Starting point is 00:59:32 My mind was going everywhere. So I was you know, trying to put Deposit on apartment just in case, you know, like something fell through and then this house came available. So then I put the um deposit here and then went under contract on this lot and so there was like a lot of things that We kind of went through before I I landed here and you know to a lot of people I'm sure in his family. They probably think wow that all happened so fast But like there was wheels in motion regardless of the situation like will took the house off the market
Starting point is 01:00:08 I think once or twice um of our marital home and then kept putting it back on the market ended up selling So there was a lot of things that just happened over a period of time and I think everything happened exactly the way that was supposed to And I also think to other people it might look like it happened quickly but Definitely not Hill you're like, I know that
Starting point is 01:00:35 That it did not happen quickly it did not Um someone else said her name is katie. So katie if you're listening Um, so listening to lindsay talk about her being with will for so long and their ages that they got together and how That was important years of her life. Let me wrap y'all's brains a little I am 32 My husband is 35. We've been together since we were 14 and 17 and have lived together since 16 and 19 Married 11 and on 18 years in many ways. I don't think we're happily married. I think we all just know to stick together, but one foot on one foot we love each other and Don't want to walk away from each other. So it just must be something and
Starting point is 01:01:17 I think that there's like something to definitely be said about Feeling like you grow up with someone, you know, I think it changes the whole dynamic Yes 100 and I actually have a friend who I'm not going to say her name um She has been with her husband since she was 15 years old and they have a few children together And she her and I actually just had this conversation last weekend And she said that you know now like her and her husband are best friends But more so like roommates and she feels like she kind of you know in the next couple years
Starting point is 01:01:51 She kind of feels like maybe she wants to get out of her marriage and explore what she never got to explore And I think that there's something so relatable about that because I think that you do become best friends when you kind of grow up with someone and you know Will and I learned to pretty much do everything as adults together There was nothing that we didn't once I left my parents house and you know, he was out from his parents We had each other right and so there was a lot of growing up that happened That I think that we became reliant on each other in certain ways
Starting point is 01:02:28 Like I would rely on him for certain things and he would rely on me, but then it became so unhealthy And I don't think either person was emotionally fulfilled Because it's almost as weird as this sounds. It's almost like a sibling relationship. I knew you were going to say that I yes 100 fucking percent 100 percent and and my friend that I was just saying about she She said that her and her husband don't fight. She's like we don't fight and he's a great husband she's like, you know as far as like
Starting point is 01:03:01 Helping with the kids and like doing what he needs to do but like as far as like romantically and emotionally just not there and um, you know, I said I completely understood because I that's kind of how I felt when I had a baby with Joe and then even when I was married because I thought After I had Isaac. I was like, oh my god What if I actually the word the first words that came out of my mouth when I found out I was pregnant was to my friend Marissa Um with Isaac and I said, what if I don't want to be with Joe forever? Mm-hmm, and then I tried to fix it by getting married You know and I went through the ebbs and flows of that like, you know at one point
Starting point is 01:03:37 I thought he was the love of my life and then at one point I was like this is toxic and then Um, but I wanted to fix what I had done and even then I was like we're 19 years old Yeah getting married and doing all of these things and we hardly even know each other and we have all these responsibilities and You know now even now we just started texting again like to communicate about Lincoln instead of email and it's like It's still so it's still It's literally like a sibling like it's like we have these fights and then we're fine and then we have these fights and then we're fine and I don't know like I get it. There's something so relatable about it. And I just I don't know. I understand it. I do I think that You know until
Starting point is 01:04:18 Because I get this question a lot too Do you think that you could have made it work? And I think that that's a loaded question, right? Because could you make it work? Um Would the dynamic that we had I do think that it would have been able to be worked out However, was it healthy to do that? And ultimately was it best for everybody that was involved? Not just myself Not just will not just our son, but like families as well Um, I think that for my parents how long and like at what cost like are you are you talking? Could we make it work within a year or two years?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Or are you saying could we make it work within five six seven years? And at that point it's not worth it Well, and you know, I think I know that you don't have um this experience but for my parents, I think that They've always wanted to see their girls be in a relationship where The man um my mom always told me growing up Be in a relationship with someone that loves you just a little bit more than you love them 100 percent and
Starting point is 01:05:24 You know, I don't think that I had that and so Now I don't know that I If he loves me a little more than I love him or I love him a little more than he loves me. Maybe it depends on the day um, but I feel like my current situation it is so very different because We've both already grown up. We've both um Done things on our own
Starting point is 01:05:50 Been through trials and tribulations separately and Now I think that that just changes the whole dynamic of any relationship that That I would be in and I'm sure it'll be the exact same whenever wills dating that um, he will Find that that relationship is probably healthier and he can enter it Very differently because he's in a very different season of his life, right? And I think that's the other part of it too is like
Starting point is 01:06:19 Like when people ask could we have made it work? It's like Yeah, maybe hobby and I now like and I've said that before it's like, yeah, maybe now that we've grown up We've grown up and we've been apart for seven years Um, and I'm not saying I want to I'm absolutely not saying that I'm just saying like It is such a loaded question and there's just so many um factors involved um, I will say Because I covered this on Instagram stories I try to do q&a's on Sundays if you know, I get a chance to um
Starting point is 01:06:50 But it was talking about cheating and do you think that a relationship can recover from cheating? and My answer to that is I think it's very hard to To do that and if that's ever existed in a relationship. I think the person can recover from the cheating behaviors But I don't know that the relationship necessarily can't ever be recovered to the place that it was Um before the cheating happened. So like I don't think that it can be restored to that First initial part of the relationship where it was not going on. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 01:07:24 And so I think it's very hard when you have gone through things with someone in situations when you're younger you handle situations very differently whether it be Cheating or just like the way that you communicate or whatever. I think that we all have to be very mindful That you're doing damage Um when you're having disagreements or whatever if you're not mindful about how you're handling those communications and so I think it also just varies by The people and the relationship too. Some people can recover better from that stuff than others. Um, nothing's really like black or white
Starting point is 01:08:00 Um, I feel like when it comes to cheating especially agreed this last listener question or It's not really a question, but it's it's more of like a story Um, just wanted to say that the following listener message contains discussion of suicide If someone you know is struggling or in crisis help is available You can call the national suicide prevention lifeline at 1 800 2 7 3 talk
Starting point is 01:08:27 Um, this was on coffee combos podcast fans I just wanted to say that I love all the posting about mental health since keel has been so open about it I want to scream from the roof pop tops about how important it is to take care of your mental health My husband died 17 days ago from suicide. I had to watch him die And I was it was absolutely brutal. I am not okay. I never knew my husband was struggling to this extent My husband wouldn't get help because he is an airline pilot If you're a pilot you cannot be on antidepressants My plan is to make a damn difference with my husband's story to try to get change to happen with the faa
Starting point is 01:09:02 My husband never meant to put this pain on me. I feel I feel like the wind is physically knocked out of me every 10 minutes and my heart and stomach dropped Like I'm on a roller coaster. It's brutal and I don't know how to breathe and I can't function I say all of this to say you matter your family is never better off without you I promise you that it brings me joy to advocate for mental health in the start time And I just love how it's become such a safe place for so many of you And then she posted a picture of her family um
Starting point is 01:09:31 That is very Wild I had no idea that as an airline pilot that you Are not able to be on antidepressant You can't join the military if you're on antidepressants either. Wow because I wanted to join reserves and um I can't now because I'm I started the once you're in Don't quote me on this. I think once you're already in unlike the airline pilot
Starting point is 01:09:56 You can get on antidepressants, but you cannot join already being on them Wow, and I'm sure there are plenty of other professions um That are the same way, but it's really sad because I feel like and don't quote me on this either, but I think suicide is higher um for men right now, um and Men are shamed for having feelings and men are shamed for Talking about their feelings or crying and things like that. And so they feel this like essentially like a complex, right? Like
Starting point is 01:10:27 They can't talk about society has done that. Yeah 100 percent and um I I posted a men's mental health group in the coffee convo's group on facebook because a friend of mine Started it. Uh, his name's gabe. He started it. Um My ex from high school who committed suicide recently was one of his best friends It was like a brother to him So he started the men's mental health group and on facebook and i'm in it Um, and if anyone else wants to join it and and add anything or encouraging words or things like that
Starting point is 01:11:00 I think it's really important for us to help as women. I mean, we all have family members and brothers and and friends that are that are men who we don't know what they're going through We have no idea. So, um, my kids even said something to me yesterday. They said, um, I won't say which one but I said my grandma's depressed, but I don't think she's depressed because she smiles all the time She's happy all the time and I said, um, you know, you don't know what's under the smiles You don't know what's under all of that. I said, it's very very possible that you know, she's still depressed But you wouldn't know and it's the same for so many people
Starting point is 01:11:36 So I think it would be, you know, important for anyone listening to please join the men's mental health group You never know if something that you say could help somebody else Um, but it's it's so sad. I think awareness is everything too, right like Having these groups, having the support systems, um, the resources You can change a lot of things, but I think when you're not willing to talk about it, um That that is very very scary. And I think that you're so right about You know, someone having a smile on their face, but not knowing what they're suffering Underneath like you don't know what it's like when they're home by themselves
Starting point is 01:12:15 No, not at all. Not at all. And I know that you've experienced some of that over this past year too. And yeah, it's been Seven months of hell. It's crazy. I I would have never and I said this before I don't know if I said it on this podcast or barely famous, but I said, um The amount of empathy that depression has taught me. I think I already had empathy before But now more than ever I I'm I really don't want to and same for like The something's wrong with anti end. We don't know what her trauma was. We don't know what why, you know Why she would lean on drinking maybe whether it was for pain, you know, physical pain or trauma or whatever the case may be like We don't know and so having, you know, the open dialogue and the resources and the awareness like people won't be afraid to maybe talk about it
Starting point is 01:13:01 For sure. I saw this one tick talk, um about trauma and I just wanted to play it really quick before we get into foul play Eight one other people who have not been through the trauma you have been through any of us because we've all gone through traumas They want to tell you when to stop hurting and that's not anybody's place to tell you when to stop hurting That was chloe Kardashian's voice for any of you who didn't know Um, I'll be sure to post still link to that tick talk as well. But I think that that's so true. Um, it's not Not your place to tell anyone when to stop hurting if they should be hurting Or how they should be hurting and how they deal with something Yep, I agree with you 100%
Starting point is 01:13:44 All right, so you guys know that we talk about mental health a ton on here and cerebral is an online mental health service that offers prescription medication Counseling and therapy for anxiety depression ADHD insomnia and more I just knew this year when I started my thirties that I needed to try medication And so I definitely recommend this for you guys I'm just at a point in my life where I want to make myself a priority so I can be The happy healthy version that my kids need me to be and I also just want that for myself One of the services that they provide is prescription medication online through a licensed provider and the medication ships straight to your door So you can skip the pharmacy lines, which is really nice
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Starting point is 01:15:07 It's important to cerebral to have the diversity so everyone can get the treatment that they deserve And for listeners of coffee combos, you can receive 65 percent off your first month of medication management and care counseling At cerebral.com slash combos go to cerebral.com slash combos for 65 percent off your first month That's just a total of 30 dollars to get started join cerebral today on their mission to make quality mental health care accessible and affordable for all Have you ever had one of those moments where you realize it's time to find a new place at apartments.com? They call it an out of apartment experience It could be life altering like finding out your little family is growing or something more life annoying like dealing with a broken change machine at the
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Starting point is 01:16:31 Stop Javi if you're listening, which I know you are first of all. Hello, Jose um Second thing that I need to say to you Javi is the d book hookup um, where are we at with that because Kale and I basically are our kids Uh meet and greet with debon booker Um, he found the different one. He did not find one for debon booker yet, but he did find a different one But I was like, I don't know if they care about them. What is it? Um, I'll tell you in one second
Starting point is 01:17:04 Can I read this text really quick? Yeah. Okay. So Lincoln had a game on friday I just want to explain the context of like where this came from um Lincoln had a game on friday And he forgot he was with his dad and he forgot his football backpack in my car. So I said I would drop it off Um, and so I texted him. I said i'm on the way. He said, all right I'm shitting so link can come grab it can come outside and grab it and I sent the throw-up face Like the one with the green vomit
Starting point is 01:17:29 And he said shut yo two week tampon ass up. I yeah, I heard coffee combos So you should put roses in there for the rest of eternity I also just want to thank hobby for always whether you support us or hate us sometimes Thank you for always supporting and clicking that play button. We appreciate it. John morant and play thomas those are the two okay, so um, that was hobby's text About the tampon so shout out to hobby for listening. I think he listens to see if I talk shit about him I don't know that for sure. That's just my theory He got to hear he got to hear about the tampon. Yeah. Okay. So first foul play. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Hey, Lindsay. Hey kale and Lindsay love your podcast You guys literally get me literally L a welling every episode. So never did I think I'd be a contributor to the foul play segment But here we are. Please don't mention my name. Not even my first name. This happened today. I'm already laughing I'm already laughing So I have my own house cleaning business and I was nearing completion of my first job of the day And my tummy is rumbling in a bad way kale. I suffer from IBS. So you know what I'm feeling Oh, this is the worst My client is upstairs in her bedroom
Starting point is 01:18:48 So I tell myself to hold it and I'll stop somewhere after I leave. No you that was your first mistake Um, all of a sudden I know I can't wait. So I'm running to the powder room on the main floor But as I'm closing the door it starts coming out Oh I quickly sit down to finish but meanwhile there was enough in my leggings to have made a wretched Met a wretched mess already, which was then spread on the outside of the toilet and my legs Oh my god. Oh my god I mean, I am panicking like I've never panicked in my life before washing my leggings in the sink washing myself in the sink
Starting point is 01:19:23 Spray more cleaner in the air to try to douse the smell Putting semi-clean wet leggings back on and then of course cleaning the entire bathroom while praying my client stays shut away in her room I got it all taken care of and bolted after stealing two garbage bags to wrap myself in before I got in the car I suppose I was supposed to have a second client, but I text them cancel I texted them to cancel stating that I am unwell Pardon me while I cry for the remainder of the week under my bed. I hope you enjoy see kale We all should ourselves now and then love you ladies
Starting point is 01:19:57 Oh my god I just want to say that this is why like when you know an emergency shit is like coming on No, I'm texting Natalie and I'm going to say is this you? Because she all wait is it? No um She said she has her own house cleaning business as well, but I just think it's funny You're like were you there's no near second clients, but you shit and my power room. There's there's no name on it So and did you clean your shit leggings in my sink?
Starting point is 01:20:28 Oh my god Actually that happened to me after I ate at Cheddar's and I had to stop up Did I tell the story where I had to stop at bones? Oh my god. Hold on a second. Hang on. Wait. Are we calling bone? Come here put this on your right ear and talk tell them what happened at Cheddar's Oh Okay, so this was like what three years ago. Maybe. Yeah, so three years ago. We went to Cheddar's as a family And um your mom shit herself. Yes. Um, so basically Uh, she had to drive to bones house and she had to take a shower
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah, I had to take all my clothes off and But it was like running her down her leg and so It was disgusting. Did y'all smell it? Yes. What? It was terrible So you guys smelled was this in the car? Yeah. Yes, and then you guys smelled her turd. Yes I had to wear all their clothes. Yep Okay, you shot and your kids smelled your turd in the suburban she said We you Wait, what'd you say?
Starting point is 01:21:45 Shat Shat. Yeah. Yeah. No, but tell her it was right when I came out of the parking lot of Cheddar's Yeah, like as soon as I pulled out I you couldn't like stop anywhere You were there. No, I couldn't stop. What was it that made her have this like emergency shit? Um, uh Their giggles is so cute. I love it. Put your mom back on the phone. Okay. Okay. What did she say? She said put your mom back on the phone Um, yeah, so oh my god your bathroom. No, listen to me bones. So I they're like they were like family
Starting point is 01:22:29 They still are and so um, I had to go in her mom's bathroom. I opened the windows in there I showered I got in the shower with my clothes on and took them off in the shower because that's how bad it was That it was that much shit. Yeah, and she said they said that their mom's bathroom smelled for days Kale, like trust me. Remember back at the beginning of this episode and you were like, I don't know why this girl told all of her followers that Right like I just want to remind you. Okay. Okay next foul play. Um, please keep me anonymous Okay, well ops I moved back home from college because I was waiting to get married to my husband
Starting point is 01:23:09 So I was heading from Connecticut to Fort Drum, New York to go see my now husband I had to leave by 4 30 a.m. I was pregnant with my first with horrible morning sickness And my mom had these meds that really helped me with my morning sickness I knew she would be sleeping and of course I wanted to let her know that I was leaving because She was worried about me driving while pregnant. So I stood outside her bedroom door knocking and saying mom She wouldn't answer so I went to go find the meds and couldn't find them I went back to her room and knocked yelling her name again. No answer So I walked in her room and she's
Starting point is 01:23:44 By her husband and she screams and he laughs Needless to say I'm scarred for the rest of my life. I love your podcast. Okay. Well, first of all, oh my god first of all, um That's literally the most terrifying thing like I never would have wanted to walk in on my parents Um, that would have been scarring no matter if I was my age currently or if I was a teenager um, but also it's like When you have children, I wonder if our parents feared getting walked in on Because I feel like now that I have a child. It's a fear. Oh, it's a fear
Starting point is 01:24:28 It's a fear, especially when you're in like a well, let me not say especially because I haven't ever made it past five years but, um Like Elijah and I like we're so new still so we're I'm always like Trying to do things probably at not really great times And so it's like that like can't can't keep your hands off each other kind of thing. It's my alarm sex Oh, I like that fire alarm sex. Okay um Yeah, and so it's just never a good time, but that is so you just never know when it's gonna happen. No
Starting point is 01:25:00 Um, I'm also like I'm thinking back to I think I told the story of me walking in on my mom Yeah, and like that's mortifying. Yeah And you you still remember it to this day and it's like something and you can't erase from your mind. Yes Yes, we love that for you She's probably scarred but she was an adult like I can't imagine as an adult I was a child So like as a child you're like, oh, that's so gross like and like now I'm thinking back and I'm like, okay They were it was my mom having sex like whoop-de-fucking-do but like as an adult
Starting point is 01:25:33 Walking in on your parents. I would be I would drop dead. Does no one lock the doors like Hmm I do Yeah, but like are you what are you calling your kids lock pickers? Like are they gonna pick the lock when they know the door is locked? Well, actually, I don't think I lock the doors because it's like we already know that you don't we know that you just lied about that Like literally we know that you just lied
Starting point is 01:25:58 Well, it wasn't I just like realized that they always open the door and so like where are you having sex at? Um, the laundry room my bedroom the bathroom Oh, okay You know the mudroom No, I've never had oh, I had sex in the garage though At your new house. Yeah, but no kids were home. So it was fine. What were you guys doing? um lighting fireworks And again, you had fire alarm sex
Starting point is 01:26:26 You literally you you couldn't help yourself You had to have sex so fast that like there was no choice but to do it in the garage correct Make it make sense to me. I'm like there. No, like I'm not doing that for fear that like something's gonna get on my kitty Oh, well, we were I was just bent over. So it was like fine. Oh my god. Okay. Oh my god I love you so much I just family to listen to this. I love you so much um If you guys have not followed us on at coffee compost podcast on instagram follow us over there
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