Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Our Weekend Activities
Episode Date: July 14, 2022Seems like Kail and Lindsie are on the same cycle because both had very big moments occur in their relationships this past weekend. Kail finally goes to Red Lobster and is OBSESSED with their cheddar ...biscuits. And yes, Kail saw the story about the lady going to the hospital after holding in her fart in front of her boyfriend... Lindsie relates. And question.. Are women better cheaters than men? Kail and Lindsie discuss the There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane documentary. Lindsie answers some listeners questions. And for this week's double play of Foul Play - How would you feel if you caught your parent's banging? Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a place Body Guardz: Go to BodyGuardz.com/Coffee to protect your phone today Calm: Visit CALM.COM/convos for 40% off a Calm Premium subscription Cerebral: Go to Cerebral.com/convos for 65% off your first month Huggies: Learn more on Huggies.com Jinx: Get 15% off your first two orders online at thinkjinx.com/COFFEECONVOS Stride K-12: Personalize your child’s education at K12.com/podcasts
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I hate gift-giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you
This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship
Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay
Hello everyone. Happy Monday. I
Was just trying to send a text to suburban dads. Let him know that was in coffee combos recording and you just
Terrified me and startled me. Good morning
Buenos dias. It's Monday morning for us. It's Thursday morning or Thursday afternoon for all of our coffee combos
kitty gang
Honey, there we've got listeners on here that listen when this bitch drops at 4 a.m.
I know I
More power to them. I wish we could know those ones that listen like as soon as it drops because I
Don't know that I would get up at that time ever
Well, some of these people who are listening might be on their way to work. Like you don't know what your shit is, you know
I wonder if hot neighbor boyfriend listens on his way to work because he's up at 4 30
I'm gonna ask him and we like do you listen to coffee combos?
We have so much to talk about today and I just don't even know where to start wait
I have to tell you so on the southern tee. I
I was having this exact conversation with Caroline. I was like does your boyfriend listen and she was like, well
No, I don't think so and I'm like he has to listen right like people are definitely spying
Yeah, and she's like, you know how I know that he doesn't listen
Because we'd be in so many more fights and he would know so much more about my life if he actually did
No, that's so true because my ex when I thought he didn't listen
He would never we never fought but then when I realized that he was like secretly listening and then like fighting with me about stuff
I was like, uh, this is not gonna work. This is not gonna work
I literally have to be able to podcast about you because you are my muse, right? Like you are on congems
so
Wait, I have on on that topic though
I have to talk about that for a second because
Sometimes I feel like people get butthurt if you talk about them
Not anyone specifically in my life currently but like used to people would get butthurt about it and I'm like
You do realize that I run two weekly podcast about my life a week
And so if I was not talking about my actual life and the things that were going on
Then it wouldn't be fun and it wouldn't be honest
So you either have to decide that if you say something that's funny or something that I want to tell
I'm probably gonna tell it
But I won't expose your identity. Yes, it's so it's like there's like a fine line where we can talk about
The things that happen in our everyday lives knowing that some of these people would not necessarily want to be
Like exposed and so I do try to like tread a little bit lately
I mean most of the people they just don't care like if I bring them up
Like phone for example shit in your mudroom like so for that I did ask her like can I tell that story?
And so she like she's she's like whatever but some people I don't even I wouldn't even like dare to say their actual names because I
Don't want to like upset them in any way or whatever and like no one would know it was them
but there is like a fine line like
We have to basically guess like if we haven't had that conversation with someone like we would have to just conceal their identity
Because we didn't have that conversation. Does that make sense? Yes, and like we're not out here exposing listeners who like type into us
You know unless unless it's like appropriate to do so. Yeah
So yeah, anyway, you and I had a kind of similar weekend. We did and I was surprised that we were like aligned
So for our listeners I
texted
I texted Lindsay knows like I'm going to meet hot neighbor boyfriends parents any last words like any final thoughts because I
Had said I didn't want to meet them and like not that I didn't want to but like just very nervous
and I don't want him to have to explain himself or me to have to explain myself and
You said just like be yourself and I just was like unless I'm in a business meeting or shitting myself like there
I don't know who kale is like I have no fucking clue. Oh
Oh my god, I was like just be the kale that is the kale around me and Kristen
I don't know if they're ready for that yet. You know and you're like well you guys are like my sisters
Yeah, so I can do any like it. I would never
Like it would just be fine, but I will say that it ended up going really well
His mom and dad are so sweet like they are so back up. This is like a big deal because I
Yeah, I just want to say I feel like out of all the situations that you have been in in your life
with the baby daddies and
You know the ex-husband and all these situations
I feel like nothing has really been done. What I would call like traditional
Mm-hmm
This situation to me seems the most traditional out of any situation that you have been in before. Yeah. Yeah
so
The last time I was like formally and I I'm using air quotes
Introduced to anyone's family was when I was almost nine months pregnant with Lux
Chris had his family come over to my house for a barbecue
To meet them and I was like literally weeks away from giving birth
And he was like just not he didn't he wasn't part of the conversation
He went and played basketball with his friends. So I'm literally just sitting there
Yeah, so it was really really difficult and so when Elijah was asking me like why I was so nervous
I was like I literally haven't been introduced to anyone's family in over five years
So, I mean the last family that I had dinner with was probably
Hobbies parents
What was it about it that you were just like so scared or is it because you're so in love with him that you just like wanted
to be accepted by them
So I I yeah, I want to be accepted
But I know how important Elijah's family is to him like he's such a family person
And he's really close with his parents and just I don't know like I I know how important that is for him
And so that's one thing and then another thing is like it's not equal, right?
Like I don't have a family to introduce somebody to and so I don't have someone in my corner
That's gonna have my back during my relationships or you know
It's it's not equal where it's like, okay, I'm gonna meet your parents. You're gonna meet my parents
And we both have that kind of thing going on
And so that's really hard for me because I'm like everyone I'm with this has it so easy
they never have to meet my parents or like answer to my parents or
They never have to worry about like me balancing time between them and my family or like them coming to my family events and their family events
And then lastly like just having to explain my situation on why I have three baby dads and four kids is like
The thought of it is a little bit humiliating
The logical side of my brain is like, okay, me and Joe were really young. We were 17 years old
I was married to Harvey and then me and Chris had a toxic relationship for five years. So I think
Logically speaking, it's like, okay over the course of the past 12 years like it's not that bad
But then the side of I think that part
because you struggle with this all the time and I think that a lot of it has to do with
The fact of the way that the show has followed your story for so long
Mm-hmm and the way that certain things are depicted
Well, I think some of my cringiest and most ignorant embarrassing moments are more so highlighted than my accomplishments and my
my
Milestones like positive milestones, you know, and so I think a lot of my positive
Traits and qualities and things that I've done have been minimized and so they're not memorable
I mean for people who listen to the podcast, they know
But you know people who are not Kale fans and are just like indifferent or maybe they don't like me at all
They forget the things that I've I've actually gone through to make me who I am and also the things that I truly have accomplished and so I
Don't want them to ever like his parents to watch the show and be like what the fuck, you know
I want them to know who I am from knowing me personally
Well, that would be so hard. So I had no idea that you
Had met Chris's family when you were nine months pregnant. Yes, they came empty-handed every single one of them came empty
hand except for his mom brought me a little bamboo plant
to a barbecue and
Chris went and played basketball and I
got into I
Was so embarrassed because his one aunt was like you knew about his other girlfriend, whatever whatever and I was like actually I didn't
I was like actually Chris and I had a miscarriage before we got pregnant with Lux and she was mad because I was trying to make it known
But I was just trying to explain myself that no, I didn't know that he was in another relationship
I was I was told that it was done
and she was like
Not we just like didn't vibe right away and Chris was never he was never there to diffuse it
He was never there to have my back about you know his part and you know, he lied
So it was really hard for me because I just want I knew how close they were and I wanted to be accepted by them
And I wanted them to understand that I had nothing but good intentions for him
And I don't think that ever really came across to be honest. So this situation
Was totally different totally different. It was one-on-one with his parents
and
We didn't really
Actually one thing that his mom said was so funny to me
And I don't know if it was funny
But we were talking about like our families and she said something about like oh
Something about like growing up and you know at family functions and I said, oh, I never had
I never had that like I never we never had a barbecue in my life
The only thing that my family ever got together for was Christmas Thanksgiving and then one of my cousin's baby showers
And that's literally it like we never had a family barbecue. We never had a family outing
We never had a family vacation like nothing and she the way that she looked at me when I said that we didn't I never went to a
Family barbecue was like I had five heads and I like now I'm laughing about it, but I don't know if she
Like
You're like
This is okay. Um, do do other do you did you grow up having barbecues and stuff? Oh god
Well, my grandparents always was like the house that
Hosted everything and it was an open-door policy
So everybody could like come and go as they pleased so you never knew who was gonna be where at dinner
When you showed up like you never had any idea. So I definitely did grow up with more
like people around
But not really like what I would say like family backyard
Barbecues necessarily. Okay. Um, it was just like at nanny's table
But I love that nanny's table. That should be a podcast
Nanny's table we should that that's a good one. I will run it by her
Um, if she's not still pissed off about the prank call wait, so
hot neighbor has
no kids no kids his
Parents have other children. Yes. He's the youngest of four. Okay, and oh, so he's the baby. He's the baby. He's
Their family is
Huge like I thought Joe and Javi's families were big
When his mom told me that she's one of nine and there's 50 cousins
I couldn't I could not believe it. I couldn't believe it wait
So you had to tell me where you went like did you go to their house? Did you know dress up? Okay, so
We went to Red Lobster, which I don't eat seafood the cheese biscuits
So I have never been to a Red Lobster in my entire life. What no this was the first time
And I felt like Kim Kardashian when she passed the board when she passed the bar
And I was like this is going to set up what I am going to accomplish in the next five years
I'm gonna go to law school
I'm gonna pass the bar and I'm this Red Lobster is everything because I'm also gonna pass the bar and find out in Red Lobster parking lot
I told Elijah if he ever passes a Red Lobster and doesn't bring home biscuits. We aren't together anymore
Stop this was there's so good. I've never had anything like it. No wait
So you can actually buy in the grocery store the bag of like Red Lobster brand biscuits
Okay, so we're gonna need to do that because yeah, I'm so good
So he said that his dad's favorite restaurant is Red Lobster
I was like, okay, like do they have other things besides lobster lobster and he was like, yeah
And the other thing is like I don't really eat in front of people especially like on dates or whatever
And I don't think I don't think Elijah and I have ever been out to eat together except for one time
Well, and then, you know, you've got like the IBS issue and like
On the way to Red Lobster, he's driving and
I'm digging through my purse and I'm like, where is the emotium because I don't know what's gonna happen if I eat Red Lobster
Like I don't know what is gonna. I've never had their food. So I'm like, let me take this
Emotium or whatever and immediately the bartender so we sit at the bar because there's no weight and
And
The bartender immediately knows who I am. She says she's a huge fan. She lives down the street from me Lottie da
His mom looks at me and goes I had no idea who you were and I was like, no, that's a good thing. I prefer it that way
That's so precious. I love that. She did it now. She's so nice and she's a twin
So I thought that was like really cool. Um, and yeah, no, they were so nice. They were great
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Why don't you tell the kitty gang what you did this weekend? Okay? Well
my weekend
Was like an impromptu
I watched a lot of TV this weekend
Which is something that I just like do not regularly do but it was like a nice laid-back weekend
I typically wash Jackson's sheets like when he goes to wills and they're clean whenever he comes back
So like took care of that took care of like some chores went to the gym
watched
There's something wrong with aunt Diane
We're gonna cover that in just a little bit, but watch that watched machine gun Kelly documentary
I'm gonna talk about that on this other and tea this week and then also
All of you Virgin River fans that are posted in the coffee combos fan
Facebook page. I just have to tell you I saw the new trailer for it and
For season four, I'm so excited that show is so damn good
And this is noticed to suburban dad
If you are listening if you don't stop with the commentary when we are watching my favorite show
That I intentionally don't watch unless I am with him
You're banned from like watching Virgin River. No, literally. Why did why didn't men do that? Because I I told the kids last night?
I said every night this week. We're watching a Disney Channel original movie and
because I need them to understand like what raised me and I put on double teamed yesterday because I thought maybe Lincoln would like that and the whole time
Elijah Lincoln and Isaac are just
Commenting on this shit, and I'm like, can y'all just shut the fuck up. I didn't say that but in my head. I'm like, can y'all be quiet
Mentally stop talking like we do not need the commentary of the best show ever right now because I am invested and I need to hear every word
I need to see every scene and you are really killing the vibes
So watch a little bit of Virgin River and then I got embarrassed
I got invited on a family walk with suburban dad and his kids and
Then we went to dinner had a combo of Chick-fil-A and
Mexican food and then wait with kids or without the kids with the kids
Okay, and then we also went to see minions this weekend and did some fireworks and
And that is so cute. So, um, yeah, how did it go? It went really well. Um, I
Was actually really really nervous and I cried on the way over there because it was just like one of those moments that
I was like this could be a
Moment that is like a part of the rest of my life
Yeah, yeah, and I was just like crying and trying to fix
I stopped at the neighborhood before I got there and like fixed my makeup. So I didn't look like I had been crying
Took them little surprises and
Text my mom on the way there and said that I remember the first time I ever met her and
when my dad brought her around and
She taught me how to make paper hearts
And that was I guess an impactful moment of my life because I still remember it to this day and
She said don't worry like they're gonna love you just you know be yourself and
Whatever and it was a really good experience
His kids are really great and he and his ex-wife have done a really really good job raising them
So I feel very blessed. I literally said that to Elijah's mom
I said, I just want to tell you that you you did a fantastic job with your son
Like you guys did such a good job. She was like it was him too like pointing to her as when I was like
Oh, no, like I'm saying this about both of you like you guys did a fantastic job like such a good job, you know
I think that's probably like the best compliment ever is
For someone to tell you that you did like a really good job raising your kids. Oh my gosh
If someone said that to me, I think I would I would cry people say that all the time
Hands down I would cry like people say that to me now, but I want to know where they're at
I want to see how my kids
You're like, let's see if they're saying the same thing when I'm raising like 20 year olds. Yeah, um
Okay, so now that we have been sappy and don't want to cry
I saw this one article on Hollywood unlocked
Mm-hmm, and I just need to tell you about it. Okay, so it says
has
Woman ends up I know where this is I already know which one you're talking about in wheelchair after holding in farts around her boyfriend
I cannot tell you how many times people tagged me in this and
You know what I'm at a point with Elijah that if he
So last night when we were watching double teamed
I had like my feet across his lap and I had I sneezed and I almost farted at the same time and I
I
Almost feel like that would be like a better icebreaker than just like ripping one
You know what I mean?
So I almost feel like I wish that one would like accidentally sneak out and just like break the ice for me
But I refuse to end up in a wheelchair for holding in gas
So but I'm not super gassy like I'm just not super gassy
But I keep I still go upstairs to go to the bathroom like to go poop and he was like if you don't get down here and go in
Our bathroom, and I'm like, I just can't do it like if you hear me fart. I will die
Okay, well, I have to tell you that
Kids are so funny like the way that they out you on things
Oh, yeah, and one thing that I learned about suburban dad this weekend from one of his kids
Was that he lifts his butt in his truck and farts on them? Oh
Oh my god
And you were like, oh, that's not the that's not the tea that I was expecting me here, but okay, it's really not
That's also, you know that I should be his girlfriend
but the farting was was the best one, you know to be honest because
The experience that I have had is just that he farts into my brand new couch
So got it, you know
That's what kind of person that we're dealing with this as a
Resilient influencer who reportedly was scared to fart in front of her boyfriend ended up in a wheelchair for holding them in too long
She was at a music festival in Portugal with her boyfriend when she started experiencing this abdominal pain
She revealed to her 23.4 million followers that the abdominal pain was caused by holding in gas and
Then tagged the singer that had a similar incident in March where she actually ended up in a hospital
Oh my god
Yeah
This also says if you guys have any tips or suggestions or you know like want to talk to them about this story
You can text the word tip to three one zero three eight eight six four six three
No
Some of the comments on here. I will post this on coffee combos story
So that you guys can see it, but somebody said death before dishonor
I swear I go look at things for the comments like
People are so funny death same. I'm done like I am done. That is so funny, but like
2324 million followers and then so you're not willing to fart in front of your boyfriend
But you're willing to tell your followers
It was do the same shit that we do on coffee. Yeah, I would never
Right. You're right. You're like you're literally talking about shitting yourself and then like
acting like with hot neighbor
That you've never even
Tooted
Make it make sense, right? I cannot I just yeah, I mean I expose myself regularly on this podcast, but I can't I
Don't know. Okay. Listen to this tiktok. Okay. Mm-hmm. This is on a completely unrelated note
Guys know when they've been added to a roster
Do guys know when guys have been added to a girl's roster? Oh, don't trip. You got you
I don't think so. I don't think so because the girls are sneaky sneaky sneaky
I feel like guys always assume they're the player not the one getting played
Oh, but grubby grubby just as good a player as the guys be so
That was crazy, I thought it was the only one but look at the draw look at the draw hopefully you the best one
Hopefully you the best one. I mean, they're not wrong. I mean girl women just are better cheaters. They are
You feel like that?
Yeah, I mean unfortunately, I think it's sad to admit, but yeah, I think girls are just they cover their tracks better
Why do you think this because I've done it when when when?
You're about to out yourself. Yeah a hundred percent
Um, after five
Go ahead
After five years of truly toxic
Relationship I took everything that he that he essentially taught me and I did it towards the end
Oh, wow
I'm going to have people on my roster so that when you're done
When you're having your little disappearing act for three or four days
Don't wonder where the fuck I am because I'm on number two on my roster
Now you're benched. You're fucking benched. I
I cannot now when he found out now. I'm a hoe
I cannot okay, so I have to give my opinion about this. Um
I think that everybody has probably had a roster at some point in their life
And if you say that you haven't you're probably a liar. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that
But I will say I don't think that you can truly
Know the full potential of a relationship
Unless that is the only person a hundred percent
And further having a roster is fucking exhausting
Kale knows because she had a whole baseball team
Probably not a baseball team, but
Basketball team from like basketball football, whatever. Um
At the end it was like year six. It was like you're disappearing for days on end
But it's exhausting and I like that at that point. I just wanted to be by myself
Like I was just like I don't even want to have this fucking roster until I just stopped responding to fucking everybody
um
But yeah, I mean as time goes on I'm more willing to talk about it and be
Upfront about it because that's my truth and
Um, if I'm a hoe for doing the same shit that he that he did to me, then I guess I'm a hoe
There is no better feeling than being able to
send a text to
people that you communicated with when you were a single person
And be like, hey, just want to let you know
I am in a committed relationship and I don't feel like we should be communicating. Um, if you want me to list out the reasons
Why I feel like we shouldn't be communicating. I will do that if that is not necessary. Please basically take this as your notice
um
No better feeling and then hitting that block button
it's
I um, it's real glorious sweetheart. Like I would never at this point in my life
Like I would never
And if I didn't if I wasn't feeling it with hot neighbor
I would just just let him know
And I would move on I would not entertain other people while I'm with him because it's so exhausting
It takes up too much time
Um, and it's just not it's not fun anymore. I think people that have a roster for years and years and years. I'm like
I could never I think that
specifically in my situation that
There's a responsibility there when you're dating somebody that has children. Yeah, and you have a child that
The intent has to be very different than yes, you know that so
I just not a thing not a thing for me before we start talking about there's something wrong with aunt diane though
I just did just want to say I know a lot of people had sent messages about the gabby potato 2020
Um special and once that does become available for us to be able to watch somewhere online
We will be covering it. So just take notice on that
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um took a lot of
notes on
There's something wrong with aunt diane and I did not think that it was going to be
That interesting to be honest kyle like
I really didn't everything that I say to you. You're like, uh, I don't want like I you just don't think like it gives me the
Yeah, and then and then you watch it and you're like, oh
And I feel the same way like sometimes i'm like, should I even really bother with this like girl in the picture?
I don't know if you got to watch that at all, but I also covering it next week. Okay next week. Well
I had the same feeling about that everyone kept saying girl in the picture girl in the picture girl in the picture
And I was just like, oh like I don't even want to watch it. And then I was shocked and mortified and appalled
So I actually watched
There's something wrong with aunt diane on saturday and I watched the entire episode on youtube
But it is available on hbo max for those of you who have it and those of you who don't you can find the entire episode on youtube
Um before we get started. Um, I am going to issue a trigger warning part of this segment
We'll contain graphic discussions from an accident scene that may be disturbing to some listeners
um
okay, so
First I just want to say that I never ever want to talk negatively about
The dead dead. Yeah, that was like one of my biggest things so lindsay and I were talking or texting briefly and
When we know that we're going to discuss something on the podcast. We try not to have a conversation and text about it in case we have
Completely different thoughts. Um, but I said the same thing in text to lindsay. I was like it's this is like
A trigger warning for that too because you know, you know, you don't want people to talk negatively about the dead
And especially if it's one of your loved ones and so
um
In no way is this meant to
you know
Sabotage dianne's reputation or anything like that just our our thoughts based on what we saw in the documentary
Um, and so if any of your relatives or family members are listening that you know, we're sorry. This is not meant to upset anyone
so this story starts um, july 26 2009 when dianne
Drove the wrong way on the tachonic. Is that how you say it tachonic parkway? I think so. Yeah
For almost two miles crashing and killing eight people. Um, including herself
her daughter
three nieces um, and then
All three people in the oncoming vehicle. There was one survivor. Um, and it was her five year old son brian
um, and
At the time of this documentary it was the footage was when he was like six years old. So I didn't know
Time-wise like this happened in 2009. So maybe some of the footage was from like when he was six
Yeah, I I do think I think it's older footage. Yeah
So he sustained serious head injury um in the crash and as a result
Um, he's suffering from ocula oculomotor nerve palsy affecting movement in his right eye
Um, her husband said in an interview
Must have been from like a news clip or something like that on this documentary that she was a perfect wife outstanding mother
reliable and trustworthy
And I just want to touch on that a little bit because as much as she could have been
all of these things
In his mind, um, and all these things to other people sometimes I think that people
struggle
Internally and are able to live. I don't really want to say necessarily a double life
um, but able to hide things that they do that he might not have been
knowledgeable of I'm not quite sure if that is the case here because
As we
Talk deeper. I think that maybe there's just some denial there
I definitely feel the same way. Um
And I will call a spade a spade. I do think she lived a double life
okay
so august 4th 2009, uh, the state police held a press conference and released the autopsy reports, um
toxicology report blood alcohol content of point one nine
9% which is approximately 10 drinks and a high level of thc
um
I don't
Think that science ever lies. So
for me the results were what what they were and I can understand as
grieving family
Why you would want to doubt this and not want to believe this but, um, I just don't see how
It could have been anything else. Well, right
And so I I definitely think that when you're in pain and when you're grieving sometimes you're looking for answers that
um
Maybe go against the truth a little bit because it is hard
It's hard to fathom and truly wrap your head around, you know, this person that I was with for x amount of years and have children with etc
could have potentially
lived a double life and
and caused
Something so tragic, you know, and so that's really really difficult and I and I understand that
um
That being said I think I think maybe in years to come maybe they will
They will be able to sit with it and and truly understand that
As unfortunate as it was like accidents do happen and it is possible that maybe she did live a double life
So
Her husband was talking about how
where they were camping
That it should have been a 30 minute drive
Back and it ended up taking her four hours. Um, he talked about how she did not drink and that she did not have
Since abuse issues that, you know
Something medically had to have happened and as much as something medically could have happened
What medically could have happened happened
In my opinion from the result of the drinking and the combination of
The marijuana, I don't that just doesn't show. I think the thc the thc thing
um
Because the husband did say that she smoked occasionally
I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure it does it can stay in your system. So it very well may have been that she didn't
smoke, you know in the in the several in the several days leading up to it
No, because in that documentary it
A doctor went on there and said
From like the autopsy
That the levels that were in her system showed that she could have smoked anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour before she had the accident
So
I just don't believe that I think that okay. I didn't I completely forgot about that part. You're right. I wonder if it's like, um
Like if I was to smoke today and knock on wood, I hope I don't pass away this week, but um
If I was to smoke today and then
Later on this week pass away with the thc be in my system, but at such low levels at that point
I don't know, but evidently the way that they do these
tests through the toxicology
They're able to gauge, you know when
She would have done this
so
You know, I believe I believe the science on this, um
Supposedly she was to stop at the stores
She was going to go to mcdonald's to get the kid something to eat and then to the gas station to get gas
so her and her husband left at the same time, um within a few minutes of each other and
the
Stopping at mcdonald's was pre-planned like that was already in the plan and on the cameras
It said that she did not seem to be intoxicated and the person who took her order also said that she
seemed sober
I thought that was interesting and then same for the gas station when she stopped and got gas
She's caught on camera. She looks completely sober and
She seemed to be looking for like tylenall or adville or something
Well, she actually asked the clerk there for pain medication
Um and said that there was no signs of intoxication
at that time either
However, unless she was acting. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here. No signs of intoxication if someone isn't acting erratic
Um is able to speak without, you know, like slurring speech whatever
um
I don't know that I would pick up if somebody was
Intoxicated or not if I was working at mcdonald's or the gas station
Let's let me just say my mom was a functioning alcoholic is a functioning alcoholic. My mom has gone to work
Fucked up. I called the police the police physically went to her job
And said there was no signs of intoxication
Yeah, like but as her as her daughter
I knew that she should not have gotten behind the wheel and gone to work and
furthermore cut people's hair while she was intoxicated
But the police went to her job and called me back and said there is no signs of intoxication. So
I mean people can live double lives and people can be functioning
drug addicts or
and or alcoholics
even the
Woman who owned the hunter lake campground said that she certainly seemed sober and
I mean, who knows but I don't feel like somebody
um
Has this high level of a blood alcohol content
Gets behind a vehicle with children. I feel like this is a pattern of things that she probably was
Used to doing. I don't think this was a one-time occurrence that this happened. I think it was just like extreme
I agree. Um, because she also
At some point. I don't remember which one they said was on the phone with
Saying something's wrong with aunt Diane and she leaves her phone
Under a bridge when she's pulling over and she's she also pulled over several times looking like she was going to be sick
so
There was the phone call from the car and she sounded completely out of sort to that point the kids were crying in the background
The oldest niece was on the phone
Um saying that something was wrong with aunt Diane and that's when they were pulled over at that point
And the phone was left on the side of the bridge. I mean you have to be
pretty intoxicated to
leave your phone
I did want to say that. Um
I think that
There was some pain
Obviously, there's like dental records if you guys watch this documentary. There were some dental records that she had an abscess tooth
um at the end of
documentary
To me it just showed how much in denial that
the husband and jay were
Um trying to put all of this back on the tooth abscess and saying that it could have caused a stroke
But the doctor that is you know in this last scene says there was no stroke
um
And that that was just like an insane
Theory that that could have happened
Um, I do think that she was dealing with
Something going on in her life could have stemmed from childhood trauma
Um, she was born in 1973 grew up in floral park, new york
She was the fourth child and the only girl and at nine years old
Her mother left the family
And I think that there could have been some like abandonment issues that she was dealing with there
um, but also they said that the mother actually
Had a relationship with her three older brothers and diane was the only one that was not receptive to having a relationship with her mom
And that her mom did try and diane declined
But I think as much as someone else tries that doesn't take away the trauma true. This is true
I mean, that's that's like if my mom were to be like
Hey, kaylin, like let's have a relationship now. I would be like you traumatized me my whole life like
Sure, we can have a relationship but the trauma is not going to go away. So that's a good point
So witnesses say that they saw
Her get off at a truck stop and she looked as if she was going to be sick to her stomach
Like she was hunched over like she was, you know, throwing up
When they came back out
She was gone. Um
They said in hindsight they wish they would have done something about it then and had they known that there was kids in the car that they would have
um
And I say all of that to say not to to shame these people in any way
but like if you see something that does not look right, I think always err on the side of caution and
Do what would probably be like the extreme thing to do
And if it's nothing then it's nothing but if it's something then you could have saved someone's life
I just I don't think I've ever
It's hard because I don't know if I've ever been in that situation. It's kind of like when people
They say like if someone's being raped or whatever like no one really wants to help
But if you scream fire then all of a sudden people will call like
I think people just expect other people to do something about it
They're like, oh, I'm not going to call. I'm not going to go check. Someone else will do it
Um, which is kind of scary to think about
there also
Was a bottle of absolute vodka found that was in the van
And again the husband says that
They would keep that in their camper and that he packed the bags put them in the van
um
I don't think that's true. I think that he knew
At that point that you know, she had been drinking
Which why would you allow her to get in the car then with the kids?
I don't think that he knew how much she had been drinking
But I think that he knew like once he knew that the vodka was in the car
that
He probably knew that
There was a likely chance that she had been drinking. Right. Um
There was a doctor that was enlisted to review the police reports and the footage to come up with like a forensic psychiatric autopsy
Um, and you know, he said there's many things that you know, could be questioned
And is it possible that because gel caps weren't available for her to be able to
Treat this tooth abscess could she have taken a drink to relax the pain and then you know
You know taken too much
Is it a possibility? Yes possible like very possible, but
To the extent of 10 drinks. I think that that that is extreme. Um, this family
Did hire um, this man called named tom ruskins and they wanted him to conduct like his own investigation
And that investigation included dianne's friends family canvassing the campground root for leads
obtaining video footage from
The gas station and according to
They they also claimed that like he didn't do an investigation and you know,
He took their money, but he claimed that all monies were spent on
um
activities and lab tests and of course family had a completely different story
Everyone says that the autopsy results
Um from like the medical perspective are consistent
Everyone said that that's why I think this is a lot of it is the the pain and the grieving
Um, and them not wanting to believe the truth because
Now you have two autopsy results that say the same thing or the two testings that say the same thing
Um, they had arranged to have dna tests done to match dianne's
dna to the toxicology reports. Those also came back consistent with the the dna match that you know toxicology reports
I think the only way for this to have been a mistake was if they tested it and then gave the wrong person's results back
Uh, great because I don't know if you guys remember, but over I guess it was in january
This past january we took the football team to atlanta and um
They called me and told me I had covet and but then I got literally less than 24 hours later
They called me back and said that there was a mistake with my results. Um, and I actually don't have covet
so yes mistakes can happen, but
I believe what my email said I'd have to go back and check was that mine were I think they were um mixed up with people who were positive
See that's so scary. You know, however
I think that that is a completely different story
You know, however, I think that that is a completely because there was so many people that had to take covet tests like in that situation
that
There's more margin for error like this literally was dna from her body
They ran the toxicology on that. Yeah
then
rematch the dna to confirm that the toxicology
matched the dna so
I just don't see again. I don't want to talk about the dead, but I definitely think that she was experiencing
um
Possibly some type of mental health things going on
um, it did say in this documentary the early loss or trauma pre to put pre
Disp... predisposes to mood disorders and addictive disorders and statistically she was at risk for that so
um
Not saying that was the case, but I think that's the case
I don't know if you found this as um, and I know the anger is can be a part of grieving. I know that
um
And I'm really not one to speak on this because I talked about potentially getting an abortion with creed and stuff like that but
His six-year-old son. He says, you know, he's angry because he never wanted kids
and so now he has to
Revolve his life around raising his son by himself and
he's mad because he didn't want kids and
um
He also doesn't really give his son a chance to like really grieve and like grasp everything
And kind of dismisses his son's feelings and jay talked about that. She said that
You know, the dad just I forget what the dad's name is
um
Yeah, I forget what his name is. Um, he like kind of dismisses when you know, his son's crying about his mom and his sister and
um
Jay was saying that the dad doesn't really see him because he worked nights and as soon as he gets home from school
He's off to work
and so I
That really upset me because you would think that this would actually bring them together versus like
I don't know
I don't know. I think sometimes that people can bond over
trauma, but then
sometimes
maybe
Him I just hate to say this but maybe it's like a constant reminder for him
Like I don't I don't know like he only has part of his family versus all or nothing
Yeah, and I mean that's sad, but ultimately
The child is a child, right? And so I I viewed the husband
as as a selfish person
In that regard because it it's more about his feelings than his child. So
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We had a couple of things that I wanted to talk about that came up in the coffee combos podcast fans facebook page
And I just want to tell everyone if you're not in this facebook page
I've kind of become pretty obsessed and i'll go in there and read everybody's bullshit all the time
Someone said that
Her name was brook. Um, so brook if you're listening she said listening to today's episode and I had two things on my mind
Question for lindsay. Did you and will build the house together or did you know before you started building that you were going to get
Divorced because you've been building a house for a while before you said you were getting the divorce
So did you already know in your mind and this question has come up on?
The southern tea it's come up in my dm. So I just wanted to address this here
um, I think that when
You are nearing the end
of
Your relationship with someone and and for as long as will and I work together
um
That you go through
moments of like okay. Well, can we make this work and
You know, do we really want to give up yet? And I think that through the process of
Me moving and I don't know if I've talked about this before
But I had wanted to be in the neighborhood that I'm in now for several years since it, you know
started developing
And it was something that he didn't want he wanted to be on land and you know
I wanted to do a neighborhood like this kind of slow down with life a little bit
It was kind of more of like a turnkey environment where it had long service and you know, we could really enjoy
Time and that was just not something that he was wanting to do
So can I just say that I don't think any neighborhoods in my area offer long service
Really?
No, I don't think that's a thing here. I'd have to look it up, but I do not think so
So, yeah, lawn maintenance is a part of my HOA
And so I thought this would be like a really nice thing to do. Um
Kale and I had one of my girlfriends britney
Uh price booker on this podcast a couple of years ago and she had talked about
kind of, um
Just taking time
away from everything and just focusing on the family so like not putting the kids into sports and I
Felt very led to do that
And so that was kind of my reasoning of why I wanted to move into this neighborhood and so
So we had originally been under contract on another lot in this neighborhood
And the timeline was a little bit longer than this one and once I realized I took one
last trip
Last ditch effort with will to charlotte to my girlfriend katie
Moomoo's and macaroons
She used to host with me on the southern tee. We went to her daughter's first birthday party and we were just going to make a couple
strip out of it
and that was like the last ditch effort
and will got
shit-faced and um, it wasn't really that great of a time and then we ended up coming home a day early and
Immediately I knew when we got back that I was filing for divorce. So at that point
um
The contract on the house that I am in now had fallen through a financing
And it was going to be ready in july and I was in the process of like and I don't know if you ever experienced this kale, but like
Not knowing what to do
I didn't know if I needed to get like an apartment or if I needed to like find a townhouse or like
My mind was going everywhere. So I was you know, trying to put
Deposit on apartment just in case, you know, like something fell through and then this house came available. So then I put the
um deposit here and then went under contract on this lot and so
there was like a lot of things that
We kind of went through before I
I landed here and you know to a lot of people
I'm sure in his family. They probably think wow that all happened so fast
But like there was wheels in motion regardless of the situation like will took the house off the market
I think once or twice um of our marital home and then kept putting it back on the market ended up selling
So there was a lot of things that just happened
over a period of time and
I think everything happened exactly the way that was supposed to
And I also think to other people it might look like it happened quickly
but
Definitely not
Hill you're like, I know that
That it did not happen quickly it did not
Um someone else said her name is katie. So katie if you're listening
Um, so listening to lindsay talk about her being with will for so long and their ages that they got together and how
That was important years of her life. Let me wrap y'all's brains a little I am 32
My husband is 35. We've been together since we were 14 and 17 and have lived together since 16 and 19
Married 11 and on 18 years in many ways. I don't think we're happily married. I think we all just know
to stick together, but one foot on one foot we love each other and
Don't want to walk away from each other. So it just must be something and
I think that there's like something to definitely be said about
Feeling like you grow up with someone, you know, I think it changes the whole dynamic
Yes 100 and I actually have a friend who I'm not going to say her name
um
She has been with her husband since she was 15 years old and they have a few children together
And she her and I actually just had this conversation last weekend
And she said that you know now like her and her husband are best friends
But more so like roommates and she feels like she kind of you know in the next couple years
She kind of feels like maybe she wants to get out of her marriage and explore what she never got to explore
And I think that there's something so relatable about that because I think that you do become
best friends when you kind of grow up with someone and
you know
Will and I learned to pretty much do everything as adults together
There was nothing that we didn't once I left my parents house and you know, he was out from his parents
We had each other right and so there was a lot of growing up that happened
That I think that we became reliant on each other in certain ways
Like I would rely on him for certain things and he would rely on me, but then it became so unhealthy
And I don't think either person was emotionally
fulfilled
Because it's almost as weird as this sounds. It's almost like a sibling relationship. I knew you were going to say that
I yes 100 fucking percent
100 percent and and my friend that I was just saying about she
She said that her and her husband don't fight. She's like we don't fight and he's a great husband
she's like, you know as far as like
Helping with the kids and like doing what he needs to do but like as far as like romantically and emotionally
just not there and um, you know, I said
I completely understood because I that's kind of how I felt when I had a baby with Joe and then even when I was married because I thought
After I had Isaac. I was like, oh my god
What if I actually the word the first words that came out of my mouth when I found out I was pregnant was to my friend Marissa
Um with Isaac and I said, what if I don't want to be with Joe forever?
Mm-hmm, and then I tried to fix it by getting married
You know and I went through the ebbs and flows of that like, you know at one point
I thought he was the love of my life and then at one point I was like this is toxic and then
Um, but I wanted to fix what I had done and even then I was like we're 19 years old
Yeah getting married and doing all of these things and we hardly even know each other and we have all these responsibilities and
You know now even now we just started texting again like to communicate about Lincoln instead of email and it's like
It's still so it's still
It's literally like a sibling like it's like we have these fights and then we're fine and then we have these fights and then we're fine and
I don't know like I get it. There's something so relatable about it. And I just I don't know. I understand it. I do I think that
You know until
Because I get this question a lot too
Do you think that you could have made it work? And I think that that's a loaded question, right? Because could you make it work?
Um
Would the dynamic that we had I do think that it would have been able to be worked out
However, was it healthy to do that? And ultimately was it best for everybody that was involved? Not just myself
Not just will not just our son, but like families as well
Um, I think that for my parents how long and like at what cost like are you are you talking?
Could we make it work within a year or two years?
Or are you saying could we make it work within five six seven years? And at that point it's not worth it
Well, and you know, I think I know that you don't have
um this experience but for my parents, I think that
They've always wanted to see their girls be in a relationship where
The man um my mom always told me growing up
Be in a relationship with someone that loves you just a little bit more than
you love them 100 percent
and
You know, I don't think that I had that and so
Now I don't know that I
If he loves me a little more than I love him or I love him a little more than he loves me. Maybe it depends on the day
um, but
I feel like my current situation it is so very different because
We've both already grown up. We've both
um
Done things on our own
Been through trials and tribulations separately
and
Now I think that that just changes the whole
dynamic of any relationship that
That I would be in and I'm sure it'll be the exact same whenever wills dating that um, he will
Find that that relationship is probably healthier and he can enter it
Very differently because he's in a very different season of his life, right?
And I think that's the other part of it too is like
Like when people ask could we have made it work? It's like
Yeah, maybe hobby and I now like and I've said that before it's like, yeah, maybe now that we've grown up
We've grown up and we've been apart for seven years
Um, and I'm not saying I want to I'm absolutely not saying that I'm just saying like
It is such a loaded question and there's just so many um factors involved
um, I will say
Because I covered this on Instagram stories
I try to do q&a's on Sundays if you know, I get a chance to um
But it was talking about cheating and do you think that a relationship can recover from cheating?
and
My answer to that is I think it's very hard to
To do that and if that's ever existed in a relationship. I think the person can recover from the cheating behaviors
But I don't know that the relationship necessarily can't ever be recovered to the place that it was
Um before the cheating happened. So like I don't think that it can be restored to
that
First initial part of the relationship where it was not going on. Does that make sense?
And so I think it's very hard when you have gone through things with someone in
situations when you're younger you handle situations very differently whether it be
Cheating or just like the way that you communicate or whatever. I think that we all have to be very mindful
That you're doing damage
Um when you're having disagreements or whatever if you're not mindful about how you're handling
those communications and so
I think it also just varies by
The people and the relationship too. Some people can recover better from that stuff than others. Um, nothing's really like black or white
Um, I feel like when it comes to cheating especially
agreed
this last listener
question or
It's not really a question, but it's it's more of like a story
Um, just wanted to say that the following listener message contains discussion of suicide
If someone you know is struggling or in crisis help is available
You can call the national suicide prevention lifeline at 1 800 2 7 3 talk
Um, this was on coffee combos podcast fans
I just wanted to say that I love all the posting about mental health since keel has been so open about it
I want to scream from the roof pop tops about how important it is to take care of your mental health
My husband died 17 days ago from suicide. I had to watch him die
And I was it was absolutely brutal. I am not okay. I never knew my husband was struggling to this extent
My husband wouldn't get help because he is an airline pilot
If you're a pilot you cannot be on antidepressants
My plan is to make a damn difference with my husband's story to try to get change to happen with the faa
My husband never meant to put this pain on me. I feel
I feel like the wind is physically knocked out of me every 10 minutes and my heart and stomach dropped
Like I'm on a roller coaster. It's brutal and I don't know how to breathe and I can't function
I say all of this to say you matter your family is never better off without you
I promise you that it brings me joy to advocate for mental health in the start time
And I just love how it's become such a safe place for so many of you
And then she posted a picture of her family
um
That is very
Wild I had no idea that
as an airline pilot that
you
Are not able to be on antidepressant
You can't join the military if you're on antidepressants either. Wow because I wanted to join reserves and um
I can't now because I'm I started the once you're in
Don't quote me on this. I think once you're already in unlike the airline pilot
You can get on antidepressants, but you cannot join already being on them
Wow, and I'm sure there are plenty of other professions
um
That are the same way, but it's really sad because
I feel like and don't quote me on this either, but I think suicide is higher
um for men right now, um and
Men are shamed for having feelings and men are shamed for
Talking about their feelings or crying and things like that. And so they feel this like essentially like a complex, right? Like
They can't talk about society has done that. Yeah 100 percent and um
I I posted a
men's mental health group in the coffee convo's group on facebook because a friend of mine
Started it. Uh, his name's gabe. He started it. Um
My ex from high school who committed suicide recently was one of his best friends
It was like a brother to him
So he started the men's mental health group and on facebook and i'm in it
Um, and if anyone else wants to join it and and add anything or encouraging words or things like that
I think it's really important for us to help as women. I mean, we all have
family members and brothers and and friends that are that are men who we don't know what they're going through
We have no idea. So, um, my kids even said something to me yesterday. They said, um,
I won't say which one but
I said my grandma's depressed, but I don't think she's depressed because she smiles all the time
She's happy all the time and I said, um, you know, you don't know what's under the smiles
You don't know what's under all of that. I said, it's very very possible that you know, she's still depressed
But you wouldn't know and it's the same for so many people
So I think it would be, you know, important for anyone listening to please join the men's mental health group
You never know if something that you say could help somebody else
Um, but it's it's so sad. I think awareness is everything too, right like
Having these groups, having the support systems, um, the resources
You can change a lot of things, but I think when you're not willing to talk about it, um
That that is very very scary. And I think that you're so right about
You know, someone having a smile on their face, but not knowing what they're suffering
Underneath like you don't know what it's like when they're home by themselves
No, not at all. Not at all. And I know that you've experienced some of that over this past year too. And yeah, it's been
Seven months of hell. It's crazy. I I would have never and I said this before
I don't know if I said it on this podcast or barely famous, but I said, um
The amount of empathy that depression has taught me. I think I already had empathy before
But now more than ever I I'm I really don't want to and same for like
The something's wrong with anti end. We don't know what her trauma was. We don't know what why, you know
Why she would lean on drinking maybe whether it was for pain, you know, physical pain or trauma or whatever the case may be like
We don't know and so having, you know, the open dialogue and the resources and the awareness like people won't be afraid to maybe talk about it
For sure. I saw this one tick talk, um about trauma and I just wanted to play it really quick before we get into foul play
Eight one other people who have not been through the trauma you have been through any of us because we've all gone through traumas
They want to tell you when to stop hurting and that's not anybody's place to tell you when to stop hurting
That was chloe Kardashian's voice for any of you who didn't know
Um, I'll be sure to post still link to that tick talk as well. But I think that that's so true. Um, it's not
Not your place to tell anyone when to stop hurting if they should be hurting
Or how they should be hurting and how they deal with something
Yep, I agree with you 100%
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Okay, kale. Okay. We're ready to do foul foul play the amount of people
That wrote in about your tampon. It's like I feel like
He texted me about it
Oh
Javi texted me about it. He said hold on. I'm gonna read my read the text
Stop Javi if you're listening, which I know you are first of all. Hello, Jose
um
Second thing that I need to say to you Javi is the d book hookup
um, where are we at with that because
Kale and I basically are our kids
Uh meet and greet with debon booker
Um, he found the different one. He did not find one for debon booker yet, but he did find a different one
But I was like, I don't know if they care about them. What is it? Um, I'll tell you in one second
Can I read this text really quick? Yeah. Okay. So Lincoln had a game on friday
I just want to explain the context of like where this came from
um
Lincoln had a game on friday
And he forgot he was with his dad and he forgot his football backpack in my car. So I said I would drop it off
Um, and so I texted him. I said i'm on the way. He said, all right
I'm shitting so link can come grab it can come outside and grab it and I sent the throw-up face
Like the one with the green vomit
And he said shut yo two week tampon ass up. I yeah, I heard coffee combos
So you should put roses in there for the rest of eternity
I also just want to thank hobby for always whether you support us or hate us sometimes
Thank you for always supporting and clicking that play button. We appreciate it. John morant and play thomas
those are the two okay, so um, that was hobby's text
About the tampon so shout out to hobby for listening. I think he listens to see if I talk shit about him
I don't know that for sure. That's just my theory
He got to hear he got to hear about the tampon. Yeah. Okay. So first foul play. Okay.
Hey, Lindsay. Hey kale and Lindsay love your podcast
You guys literally get me literally L a welling every episode. So never did I think I'd be a contributor to the foul play segment
But here we are. Please don't mention my name. Not even my first name. This happened today. I'm already laughing
I'm already laughing
So I have my own house cleaning business and I was nearing completion of my first job of the day
And my tummy is rumbling in a bad way kale. I suffer from IBS. So you know what I'm feeling
Oh, this is the worst
My client is upstairs in her bedroom
So I tell myself to hold it and I'll stop somewhere after I leave. No you that was your first mistake
Um, all of a sudden I know I can't wait. So I'm running to the powder room on the main floor
But as I'm closing the door it starts coming out
Oh
I quickly sit down to finish but meanwhile there was enough in my leggings to have made a wretched
Met a wretched mess already, which was then spread on the outside of the toilet and my legs
Oh my god. Oh my god
I mean, I am panicking like I've never panicked in my life before washing my leggings in the sink washing myself in the sink
Spray more cleaner in the air to try to douse the smell
Putting semi-clean wet leggings back on and then of course cleaning the entire bathroom while praying my client stays shut
away in her room
I got it all taken care of and bolted after stealing two garbage bags to wrap myself in before I got in the car
I suppose I was supposed to have a second client, but I text them cancel
I texted them to cancel stating that I am unwell
Pardon me while I cry for the remainder of the week under my bed. I hope you enjoy see kale
We all should ourselves now and then love you ladies
Oh my god
I just want to say that this is why like when you know an emergency shit is like coming on
No, I'm texting Natalie and I'm going to say is this you?
Because she all wait is it? No
um
She said she has her own house cleaning business as well, but I just think it's funny
You're like were you there's no near second clients, but you shit and my power room. There's there's no name on it
So and did you clean your shit leggings in my sink?
Oh my god
Actually that happened to me after I ate at Cheddar's and I had to stop up
Did I tell the story where I had to stop at bones? Oh my god. Hold on a second. Hang on. Wait. Are we calling bone?
Come here put this on your right ear and talk tell them what happened at Cheddar's
Oh
Okay, so this was like what three years ago. Maybe. Yeah, so three years ago. We went to Cheddar's as a family
And um your mom shit herself. Yes. Um, so basically
Uh, she had to drive to bones house and she had to take a shower
Yeah, I had to take all my clothes off and
But it was like running her down her leg and so
It was disgusting. Did y'all smell it? Yes. What? It was terrible
So you guys smelled was this in the car? Yeah. Yes, and then you guys smelled her turd. Yes
I had to wear all their clothes. Yep
Okay, you shot and your kids smelled your turd in the suburban she said
We you
Wait, what'd you say?
Shat
Shat. Yeah. Yeah. No, but tell her it was right when I came out of the parking lot of Cheddar's
Yeah, like as soon as I pulled out I you couldn't like stop anywhere
You were there. No, I couldn't stop. What was it that made her have this like emergency shit?
Um, uh
Their giggles is so cute. I love it. Put your mom back on the phone. Okay. Okay. What did she say?
She said put your mom back on the phone
Um, yeah, so oh my god your bathroom. No, listen to me bones. So I they're like they were like family
They still are and so um, I had to go in her mom's bathroom. I opened the windows in there
I showered I got in the shower with my clothes on and took them off in the shower because that's how bad it was
That it was that much shit. Yeah, and she said they said that their mom's bathroom smelled for days
Kale, like trust me. Remember back at the beginning of this episode and you were like, I don't know why this girl told all of her followers
that
Right like I just want to remind you. Okay. Okay next foul play. Um, please keep me anonymous
Okay, well ops
I moved back home from college because I was waiting to get married to my husband
So I was heading from Connecticut to Fort Drum, New York to go see my now husband
I had to leave by 4 30 a.m. I was pregnant with my first with horrible morning sickness
And my mom had these meds that really helped me with my morning sickness
I knew she would be sleeping and of course I wanted to let her know that I was leaving because
She was worried about me driving while pregnant. So I stood outside her bedroom door knocking and saying mom
She wouldn't answer so I went to go find the meds and couldn't find them
I went back to her room and knocked yelling her name again. No answer
So I walked in her room and she's
By her husband and she screams and he laughs
Needless to say I'm scarred for the rest of my life. I love your podcast. Okay. Well, first of all, oh my god
first of all, um
That's literally the most terrifying thing like I never would have wanted to walk in on my parents
Um, that would have been scarring no matter if I was my age currently or if I was a teenager
um, but also it's like
When you have children, I wonder if our parents feared getting walked in on
Because I feel like now that I have a child. It's a fear. Oh, it's a fear
It's a fear, especially when you're in like a well, let me not say especially because I haven't ever made it past five years
but, um
Like Elijah and I like we're so new still so we're I'm always like
Trying to do things probably at not really great times
And so it's like that like can't can't keep your hands off each other kind of thing. It's my alarm sex
Oh, I like that fire alarm sex. Okay
um
Yeah, and so it's just never a good time, but that is so you just never know when it's gonna happen. No
Um, I'm also like I'm thinking back to I think I told the story of me walking in on my mom
Yeah, and like that's mortifying. Yeah
And you you still remember it to this day and it's like something and you can't erase from your mind. Yes
Yes, we love that for you
She's probably scarred but she was an adult like I can't imagine as an adult
I was a child
So like as a child you're like, oh, that's so gross like and like now I'm thinking back and I'm like, okay
They were it was my mom having sex like whoop-de-fucking-do but like as an adult
Walking in on your parents. I would be I would drop dead. Does no one lock the doors
like
Hmm
I do
Yeah, but like are you what are you calling your kids lock pickers?
Like are they gonna pick the lock when they know the door is locked?
Well, actually, I don't think I lock the doors because it's like we already know that you don't we know that you just lied about that
Like literally we know that you just lied
Well, it wasn't I just like realized that they always open the door and so like where are you having sex at?
Um, the laundry room my bedroom the bathroom
Oh, okay
You know the mudroom
No, I've never had oh, I had sex in the garage though
At your new house. Yeah, but no kids were home. So it was fine. What were you guys doing?
um lighting fireworks
And again, you had fire alarm sex
You literally you you couldn't help yourself
You had to have sex so fast that like there was no choice but to do it in the garage correct
Make it make sense to me. I'm like there. No, like I'm not doing that for fear that like something's gonna get on my kitty
Oh, well, we were I was just bent over. So it was like fine. Oh my god. Okay. Oh my god
I love you so much
I just family to listen to this. I love you so much
um
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