Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Over Stimulated Mom & True Crime Updates

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

CC272: Lindsie and Kail talk about being overstimulated by their kids, and the craziness that comes with it. ZERO personal space! And what is it with boys wanting to pee in random places.. or is it just our boys? Kail brings today's Tiktok o'clock and she's wondering where the line is when it comes to sharing her story/experience and respecting the privacy of those involved in said stories.Lindsie gives us the latest in true crime with the recent Murdaugh Murders trial and the Idaho 4 trials. Buckle up! Thank you to our sponsors!Chime: Get started at chime.com/convosProgressive: Visit progressive.com to learn moreStamps: Visit Stamps.com and use promo code COFFEE for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!Stir: #1 Dating App designed for single parents. Download Stir or tell your single friends to try it out!Treehut: Shop Tree Hut at Ulta, Target, and Walmart, online and in-store. Check out treehutshea.com/podcast for more details

I hate gift-giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you This is coffee convos with kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels kale That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's kale and Lindsay Hello, hello, ma'am Wait, are we recording? Yeah, I wanted to see what you would say and you didn't I thought you were gonna be like, oh, hey, and then you didn't Welcome to coffee convos podcast. Good morning. Good morning. How are we today? Oh my gosh? Well, we are having a chaotic day

But when are we not? I thought that I was gonna have like a low-key weekend at home This coming up weekend because I had a majorly chaotic weekend this past weekend and I have to ask you about this but I'm gonna tell you about how I'm not having a low-key weekend this coming weekend that I thought my sister had texted me and My brother was texting me and we were trying to FaceTime and I was like I literally have to like work this morning and we need to like figure this out in another time Evidently, I'm going to Florida this weekend. So, um, oh, you know, just like the casual little Florida trip gonna head it head down to Pensacola, so

Excited for that. But yeah, I was thinking that I was gonna be sleeping all weekend. Love that. Oh, definitely not. Yeah No, you're not gonna be sleeping this weekend. You're gonna be Um attending a trip. I'm gonna be attending a trip at the camp So that's what I'm doing and I have two co-hosts with me today Outside of you. I have Della and Georgia. Oh good. Oh, do they get along? Um, no, they do not. Oh, they do not Della is laying on this bed. I wish you could see her She's laying on this bed right beside me Georgia is in her crate because she is the most chaotic dog They say to get a golden doodle

You need to know what comes along with getting a golden doodle because she is wild full throttle all the time Della is like a couch potato. She has never loved to be touched. She Like purchase on the back of the couch like a cat and she sleeps all day. So she's a cat Yeah, she's essentially like a dog cat or a cat dog and Yeah, so I have them this week because will has a work trip and Jackson this week and it's also like read across America at school Uh-huh. I don't know if your kids do that at school or not, but I think so. I mean, I don't know they have Reading stuff. So I don't know. Okay. Well Jackson's trying to like change the dress-up days

And I'm like you do realize that like these are school set dress-up days. You don't like make them yourself. So We've been going through that every morning this week. So that's that's been fun And of course, it's like, you know, Pete's a spirit night tonight for school and you know, like all the things So that's what's going on needed to ask you though on the weekends that you have your kids Do you feel like you? Over commit to like a million things to do with them because you only have them like every other weekend Yes, I literally that's so crazy that you asked me that because I was just telling Kristen that I said, you know what? I promised Lincoln that I would take him to Topgolf

And I still haven't taken him to Topgolf because we got the stomach bug and then every other weekend We have something else and I over commit to a hundred things because I only have him You know, and then he wanted to go to this place called crooked hammock, which is like a restaurant that has a playground Outside it's actually it's like a brewery. It's it's actually really fucking cute Um, and we wanted to go there and it's like he's been dying to go there with his one friend So we did that over the weekend. But because we did that we couldn't do Topgolf. I'm not doing it all in one weekend There's just so much going on and then I feel like I'm letting my kids down because we don't get to it all Right when they want to do it. Well, okay

So I think that that like really speaks to single-parent hood like whether even if you have like You know significant other that you're you're currently with I'm talking about like co-parenting and being a single parent Making sure that you want to like take your kids and do all of these things that they want to do But you only have 50% of the time to execute those things and so I Always want to do everything that he wants to do and do it timely because then he might not want to do it You know three weeks from now like when he says something I try to do it like pretty quickly because then he's kind of like done And moved on this weekend We literally went and we're foodies

We went to like the slime museum That's cool. Where is that? It was really cool They have one in New York City that you can take your kids and it's called like slow-moo or something slow-moo And you get to go and do like all these different Experiences where you feel like the different textures of the slimes How they're made the ASMR elements That you can like add to slime to make them like make the noises they have ASMR rooms They have a kinetic sand room because they partnered with kinetic sand and Elmer's and

Yeah, it's really really cool very interactive. We actually got to do a Behind-the-scenes tour where you go like where the employees work Yeah, and they showed us like how the big mixers and like how they mix the slime and stuff It was really cool, but I just lifted up Jackson was like you can't tell anybody about behind-the-scenes tour mom because you heard them They said it is exclusive. Yes, it is right and I'm like well I'm actually telling the whole kitty gang that we went behind the scenes, so That yeah, so that's what we did this weekend and then it was such a nice day and it has been so dreary and

Have to tell you my parents used to talk about seasonal depression like all the time And needing to be somewhere where it was warm and I never understood that growing up I was like I'm always had seasonal well. She said she did I didn't get it Like I didn't understand that I was just a kid and just like going to school and doing whatever and they're like We're craving somewhere hot like we need to go somewhere hot this weather is just drab and for the first time Truly and like ever did I feel like? And I don't want to say depressed because I don't want to Make light of depression

Mm-hmm, but yesterday I was so down like I have never felt like that before ever and It it's been so rainy here, and then it made me think of Seattle and yeah, mm-hmm you know the Suicide rates there and stuff, and I'm like it it obviously is like really a real thing and and Today I woke up and it was Sun's shining outside And I was like thank you Lord for like a beautiful day because I I can't do another day that was like yesterday And now I realize why my parents were always trying to catch a flight came an island. I

I Actually drive with my son roof my son roof open all year long because in the winter months when it gets darker sooner and stuff Like that like you just feel it and it's just Bogs you down a little bit, but yeah, I mean I Elijah actually always get he always gets on to me about having my son roof open He's like what is the point of you having tinted windows if the sun coming through your sunroof is gonna be able to make your I'm like I don't care about the tints as much as I care about the sun like my depression Seasonal depression is you know

That's real like where people don't want to get out of bed because it's so cold. It's so dark. It's so gloomy. It's so this I remember when My former sister-in-law lived in Seattle. They were not Seattle, but they were stationed in Washington And she she did tell me it rained a lot I wouldn't be able to live like that like it's been raining here pretty much all week And I wouldn't be able to like live somewhere I guess actually I saw a tiktok yesterday of a tiktok creator. I follow he he takes He was going through his vitamins and his medications and he lives in Seattle and he said he has to take

Sunlight in a in a pill form. That's what he said really. Yeah, he's like I take vitamin D something It's like vitamin D something else and he's like I got to take this and pill form I'll post it so you guys can see what I was talking about. But yeah, he lives in Seattle and he said that that is so crazy I mean, it really is a real thing and the only thing that I could think of yesterday as I was doing stuff because when you're in that Mood you just feel like doing nothing and every commitment that you have Feels so overwhelming and it's not even hard commitment It's just like you need to get stuff done and they're like small little things But you just feel like it's a mountain that you're climbing

I was telling my girlfriend this over a mojito last night Which probably if I was feeling that way, I probably shouldn't have been drinking a mojito But like that's a whole nother story in itself But I could only think of you and you saying that like you should just try to do like something small Yeah, and I kept thinking of that every time I was just doing like something small like I washed shoes yesterday Yeah, and how'd you feel you washed shoes? So what do you mean? I talked to Kristin about this on the southern tee yesterday, but Yeah, I'm a shoe washer and Kristin was telling me that she does not wash like her tennis shoes

Wait wash them like in the sink or like in the washer machine washing machine like you never have washed your kids shoes No, okay So like this is this is now a poll that I have to pull both the kitty gang and the tea drinkers because I'm like Who just you feel so much better with like clean shoes? You just sounded like Courtney Kardashian when you said that but Kim wait So do you put them in a bag and put them in the washer and air dry them like how does this work? Like give me the whole rundown for shoe washing because Lux took his white shoes off the other day after school He did this all on his own. He's in the bathroom for forever. And I'm like, what are you doing?

He comes out all happy and he's like I was washing my shoes I was getting the dirt off and I was like, okay period, but also What do you mean the washer machine doesn't it discolor them? No, it absolutely does not it brings them back to life and you spray like Like an oxy clean. I think is what I use is the okay you know white revive or whatever and Just like spray that shit on there and put them in the washing machine I put detergent in there and then just obviously like it's a heavy load and

It sounds like your whole house is breaking But then when you take them out, they're all crisp and clean and look brand new and you don't look like you've treached through Quite frankly America Yeah, like it's amazing. So maybe I should try washing my kids shoes and see how they come out. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm challenge you to that and I want you to be posting videos of this also Back to the point of me saying it was so nice outside once we got finished at the slime museum. I was like Jackson we're going to Downtown the little downtown area like close to where we live and I was like we're going to the park and

You're gonna play until it starts getting dusk outside And then we're gonna go and hit up the Mexican restaurant like close and you're gonna eat a cheese quesadilla and you're gonna go home And you're not gonna talk Yeah, and I just wonder also how many other parents get overstimulated by their kids I'm overstimulated by my kids all the time I was just saying I was on Instagram live like getting ready and stuff And I was saying how like my kids have a playroom with a TV and a couch and like all their stuff in it But somehow they want to be next to me in like the living room

That's attached to the kitchen and I'm just like you guys I can't even hear a show if I wanted to watch it. I can't hear myself think if I'm working Like if I want to sit on my couch and work, that's not a thing. Like it's just not a thing this morning I woke up to Lux as a picker Lux picks all of our tolin if we take our shoes and socks off Lux picks our boogers Lux picks our Eyes Lux picks our ears like he's a picker. He I woke up to buddy He is so disgusting. I woke up to him In my bed picking eye boogers out of the corner of my eye

That's what I woke up to this morning and immediately was overstimulated. Okay. First of all, if somebody I don't care if it's my child My husband that I don't have Whoever if I wake up and you're picking an eye booger out of my eye Somebody it's gonna be a bad day for somebody in it ankle and be me He will literally like at the end of the day. He'll pick off my mascara off my eye Lashes. No, no, that is not a thing. No, I would be like at this point get the fuck away from my eyes I

That's what I would say That's what I would say, but I need to know if you make your kids wear headphones if they're like watching something on a tablet Or on their phone or whatever I cannot stand to be in the car like we had an hour ride This weekend to like go do what we were doing and we stop I get Duncan for me and Jackson and I'm like and Once I get Duncan, that is your cue that you're gonna drink your drink You're not talking because I'm listening to what I want to listen to which is music And I'm going to worship and pray for all these people that I'm seeing breaking all these laws like

Doing all this stuff like I'm praying for them praying for me praying for you Doing all this stuff like I'm praying for them praying for me praying for you. Um, and I need you to put on your headphones Period. I got my older kids. Um, I got lux or not lux actually got lux up here too Um, Isaac Lincoln and lux all got earbuds. They're not like the brand like the air pods I got like the knockoff ones. So Jackson has these but yeah, I heard that there was like some knockoff versions on amazon That were good. So yeah, I think that those are the ones I got because um, one of them got black One of them got blue and one of them got them like a tie-dye situation You'll have to send me the link because we're regularly like

Needing another pair or you know, something doesn't get charged or whatever. So you'll have to send me the link But I can't stand it. I'm like I I don't why are we listening to asmr? Like why are we Watching freaking cat videos like why are we watching this weird shit that people do like why are we Why are we watching adults play with toys? Like this is just like freaking weird Right. No, I don't I don't understand the toy thing like when I see the videos that creed watches Like he'll be watching the tv of like full blown adult hands like playing with stuff. It's so weird to me Um, and I don't know why we didn't think to do that because it's I feel like it's always men's hands too Like it's never like

women's Hands playing with these little kid toys. I'm weird. I'm weirded out by it, ma'am But so we go to this park and this is the last thing I'm going to say about this because I literally was busting out laughing in the bathroom This woman this old she must have been like a grandmother And she walks this little boy into the bathroom. They go in at the same time as us I see them go into the stall and I keep hearing her say no, you're gonna go before we leave here And I'm like, oh my gosh, and she's like you need to squeeze harder and then it'll start going and I'm like

Geez like she's very committed to him Going to the bathroom, but she's gonna give him hemorrhoids. He's gonna get hemorrhoids No, she was trying to make him pee and she's like your siblings know how to do this. So like you need to do it Well, then they fling open the bathroom door and I'm there washing my hands and I turn around because like I'm nosy as hell So I'm like, I don't want to like get a good look at this lady and stuff and I gotta mute myself to laugh because I'm so congested I gotta get a good look at this lady

I needed to like see what you know Like have you ever overheard a conversation and like you just need to see like the appearance of the person So I'm like you have to I'm like crying in my neck like trying to like not look obvious But like very obvious and she goes to this little boy She says no, listen You're gonna have to learn to do this because when we go to paris you can't be pissing around on trees and I'm like, okay So this lady is obviously taken this child to paris

And this child is a tree pisser And that's the only place that he will pee and she's trying to make him learn how to use the bathroom In the bathroom, which how old was he? What did he look like how old he was probably like three years old, but I will say If you are and this might be Normal like other places too, but I know specifically in the south like Boys just like piss on trees and like it's very common for men to say I

Like don't want my neighbors like you're living too close to me If my neighbors can see me pissing off the back of my porch or like whatever I mean, maybe that's just us being like Georgia Hillbillies or whatever, but like people are tree pissers and Jackson used to do this like at preschool He would get on the playground and just like pull his pants down and just like piss in a corner Oh, well every day after school, this is like never gonna change every single day after school Lux gets out of my vehicle and pisses in our front yard. Yeah, I think

I think So then that leads me to wonder like how many people have boys that actually do this and what are your experiences and Like serious situations because I got calls from the preschool like your son's pissing on the playground again No, Lux lives to piss somewhere cool like he Like, you know how I don't know if you've seen like the new trend Well, it's probably not even new but like it's becoming like a trending thing It's like collect tattoos at every place that you go or get a magnet or a mug like

Lux looks forward to where he's gonna piss And he's like Literally you can go to the bathroom in our house as soon as you get out of the vehicle But he's like hold on I just gotta take a pee and he'll pee and it's like Literally we have a house like literally you can go inside and take a pee It's cooler to do it somewhere else though Like the toilet is just like so basic and the but my other kids never did this Like my other kids wouldn't even piss on the side of the road when it came to an emergency on the highway

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www.stamps.com Slash coffee. Thanks to stamps.com for sponsoring the show Okay, I have updates, but before we do updates. Um, and when I say updates, it is the Myrtle updates. There's quite a few of them. Um, watch the documentary over the weekend I don't know if you got a chance to or not. I I didn't finish it, but I'm on I'm in the middle of episode two Okay, so I have updates on Alec Myrtle and I also is it Alec or Alex Well, so it's spelled Alex, but when you hear him talk and um, when he

Pronounced his name in court and some of the footage He says Alec Myrtle Because the girl um Paul's girlfriend in the documentary kept calling him Alec Like al ec but the subtitles kept saying Alex and so then I was confused like does she not know her ex's dad's name like I didn't know What was happening so if and then I so I googled it and it said Alex, but everyone kept saying Alec so You know like when you are in court and it's um, the judge asked you to state your name state your name for the record

Yes, he says Alec Myrtle Okay, so it's Alec Maybe he just doesn't know how to like pronounce his own name Like I have no idea or maybe it's just like spelled that way and they pronounce it Alec I have no idea but have updates on that and then I also have several updates on the Idaho murders But before we get into that I want to do tick tock o'clock tick tock o'clock. Okay so I saw this tick tock and it was a guy and he was like do you ever feel like

Deleting your social media so that you're no longer perceived by anybody um And I really resonated with that and I felt like if I didn't make money off of my social medias I would love to do that I would love to just not be perceived by anyone anymore and like just post Because I have like friends that only post like every six months So I you know if they have something really cool or just to get on and kind of scroll Um, but they don't really post and I really liked that. He said just to not be perceived by anyone

I think that in theory like that's a good thought um And it's kind of like an out-of-sight out-of-mind mentality. I think yeah, but with that being said um I just don't think that that's realistic for either of our lives and also as much as um There are elements of

Having a job that you know includes having a social media presence. I think that I truly Would miss it. Um I think that it's nice to have mental health breaks From it and I have several girlfriends that actually delete the apps one day a week. Oh From their phone. Yeah, they undownload the apps remove them and like you could do like a Wednesday or something and Just not be on any social media platforms that one day of the week and said that it was so great for Their mental health. I think that sometimes when you're just like constantly consuming and engaging and

Trying to essentially keep up with the Joneses like I need to update on all this stuff like you really don't but in a sense like Society kind of like tells you to uh because now everything is like oh follow along and get ready with me or like These outfits are really cool or you know, this is what we're doing on the weekends like photo dumps, you know Like there's so many trends that Make you like want to do it because also some of my personal friends are on there and like seeing everything that I do And I love sharing with them, but then sometimes you also just feel like okay I just want to

Take a moment disengage from this and not do it and I think the the true way to do it is just do that one day a week my one of my girlfriends that you I've talked about before sterling she She wasn't on the social media for years like she literally like she had them But she didn't have the apps on her phone at all for years like her And her partner just didn't have them. And so when she went back to school Um, and they were teaching her in school how to use social media to market her business Um, she was kind of forced to get back on because that is free Free promotion for her business and and you know to book clients and things like that and so

Um, she she was telling me I think it was last week She was like I'm just struggling with the social media thing because she's so used to not being on there And now she's kind of forced to be on it for Her her clients at the very least, but I also have seen people who like my hairstylist Um only has business like it's not it's all her hair Like it's all about her clients who she works on her business Um, not a whole lot of like personal stuff Um, but for things that you and I do we can't

Our personal life is our business and so that's where it gets tricky So I literally just had this conversation with my girlfriend Tori the other day that she was like, you know It's easier. Um for some people like she advertises her Her design business and stuff online and it's not her personal stuff And then one of our other friends just does nutrition and training and she doesn't Talk about her family or anything like that And I said that would be an easy way to like really diversify and set Clear boundaries when you're only posting about specific things

But the business that I'm in is so personal to me and it's such a Part of my personal life because I share so much of the personal things that are going on in my life Right and I don't know how that would even Like how I would even begin to separate that at this point and quite frankly don't really have a desire to Yeah, I mean, I mean that's Kind of the situation that I'm in with hobby, right? Like how at this point, how do I separate The two like how can I talk about my personal life and my personal experience from my perspective?

but also Because the the co-parenting stuff at this point. I feel like I've done a good job not talking shit Like I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just talking about certain things from my perspective How how at this point can I still do that and respect? I guess his privacy or whatever when it is my life as well Like I don't know how to separate them when I've been doing this since before he ever met me So that's another thing because I remember when I was going through my divorce, you know, of course, there's like Bad parts of everything. I don't feel like my divorce was a super messy divorce. I honestly don't I feel like it was pretty

smooth sailing like cut and dry Um for the most part, but there were a couple of things that were like, you know Now that we're getting a divorce. I don't want you doing this. I don't want you doing that Jackson's not returning to chrysalino's best, you know, this that and the third and My attorney just like quite frankly was like, you know, hey will um She was doing this ahead of This thought of getting a divorce. Yeah Um, you were aware of that. You were a participant of that to some degree

um, there was monetary benefit and lifestyle enhancement based off of those things And because of those reasons You would not have a valid argument to come to the table to say, oh, she can't do this because at that point That's just a petty argument. So that's what we're not going to do. We're not going to You know go into the trenches there We're going to accept things for what they are you were supportive

of everything that was going on until you weren't And we're just going to leave it there and if you have, you know, any issues then we'll Obviously like have to go to court. We'll have to move this out of mediation because you guys are not going to agree But even then what can kind of judge really tell somebody that they can talk about their you know what I mean? No, because I mean it is it is you sharing your experience of your life and You know, of course anytime someone has a public platform that's sharing with the masses The other person on the other end is going to feel like they're being slighted and it's unfair because you know

They don't have the same opportunity to do that But I have said, you know, like if you want to come on and give like a perspective of co-parenting with me or you want to come on and give a perspective of You know, what it's like to Co-parent with somebody that you feel like is in the public eye or you know Any type of co-parenting issues from like a dad standpoint. I would be happy to like Entertain that and for you to come on and be able to do that. It doesn't have to be a one-sided Situation I'm just sharing my experience as my experience and that's just it right. I mean I definitely

I I've I've definitely moved past the you know, shit talking, you know, kind of negative Not point of view, but like opinions my negative opinions You know, I try to keep those to myself because my kids are old enough to listen and stuff And so I what I do share now is more from a like a respectful I agree to disagree type of standpoint. Um, but yeah, I definitely agree with you I just think overall it would be nice to Be to be to a place where everyone understood that. Um, but you know, here we are Uh, the other tick tock that I put on here for tick tock o'clock

was One of those like unpopular opinion tick tocks and it said a child's overall level of social competence Will more so impact their overall life success than their reading level and I thought that was really interesting because I I will definitely say that the differences in my kids with their social level and their Their reading level I'm not going to name names for kids, but they're they're very different. So my kids that are Reading very well, but are they're they're lacking in social Areas. Mm-hmm. I definitely see more of a struggle with

Said child than my other children who are very very very outgoing. Mm-hmm. I um Don't know how I feel about this because there are just so many studies that show um success in life based off of reading level Um, would actually love to grab something to be able to post because there's just a lot and I've read a lot about it It's always something that has been super important to me from birth Like we started reading to Jackson

At from the time that he was born At bedtime every single night have always done it. He's a great reader um, but I think what this is saying is You know Do you feel like a child's overall level of social confidence or social competence? Will impact their overall life success more than their reading level and I I think that in some senses. Yes, and in some senses. No Yeah Do you want to have a child that

Uh is street smart to me. I think that's very important for you know, some people have it and some people just don't And some people are very socially aware and some people are, you know, not socially aware um For the most part, I do agree with you in the sense that Most children who are very intellectual do lack Um, and I'm sure there's some outliers, but of course, of course there always is um Some social

sense of social awareness I definitely agree with that. Um, I just thought it was interesting because I never really thought of it that way I also think that part of it could be The social aspect is because of who they know You know, they're social so they're networking. It's who they know not what they know And I definitely know that in you know The entertainment world as far as like radio td film stuff like that That very much comes down to who you know, who you know

I know people who have gotten shows not because you know, they were actually interesting But because they knew somebody, you know what I mean? So like that to me is more like a networking situation not necessarily because They're good at being social or they're they have a lot of friends It's just like a networking thing where it's like, oh, I knew this person So I was able to do x y or z correct. I 1000% agree with that too also just from a Parenting perspective if I had to choose I'm going to choose my child to be

Well-rounded and not exceed like if I had to you know, make a choice and be like, okay Well, your child can't exceed everything. Do you want them to be? You know well-rounded in these areas or would you rather them? You know be like a specialist in like reading or math or whatever No, I'm fine with my child just being like Normal in all areas Because then they can grow in all areas Right, so it's like more of like a well-rounded situation. Yeah, I don't care for my child to be freaking math

leaps or You know like reading superstars like ultimate accelerated reader like I don't I don't care about that like that You know if he is great at that then great, but if he is not then that's not where I'm spending my time of my energy Like I'm honestly focused on getting him outside Socializing with other children Meeting new people Learning things about different cultures. Like that's important to me. Yeah, agreed. I agree with you there Coffee combos podcast is brought to you by progressive insurance

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Do you know if they knew ahead of time that The when the myrtle trial was gonna start and the correlation of when this netflix documentary dropped Because that's a great question It's been pretty like right on time That was right on time um, we Received an email and it says hi y'all I remember a while back you covered the myrtle murders on your podcast

My boyfriend and I are watching the new documentary about the myrtle's on netflix and I highly recommend it so much information interviews from people involved I'm only on episode one and I have chill. I have chills and tears have been shed anyways would love to hear y'all's opinion on the documentary Um, we did cover this case a while ago. I think it was a case that you chose keel. Um, I don't think this was one that I chose I actually shied away from it a bit because when I started reading about it There was just like so many intricacies of this case that I was like, this is gonna be really hard to follow but I do plan this week to post the link to the initial case coverage for you guys for anybody who's interested um, and

There was just like so much information in the netflix documentary that I feel like was not covered in the other documentary that I have seen I feel like the coverage was so much better. I like the interview style Um, the way that they did it. I I just really think that it was executed very well Um, I watched it this weekend. It was a three-part documentary Very easy watch very easy to follow. They put the pieces together very perfectly. Um, there were a couple of parts of the documentary that definitely, um were highlights for me and

All the information about paul, um Was very interesting. Um I was I was blown away by some of the stuff that they were saying about paul and also The way that they did the interviews. Um, like I said, I'm only halfway through episode two Um, it was very interesting because you can see or you can feel at least I could feel the Unsettled, um It it feels almost like there's some things that are unresolved between the people in the group Which makes me really sad. Um, but they from what I

From my perspective, they all seemed very aligned even though they did the interview separate Like they all seemed very aligned in what was said like nobody really disagreed with what other people said I agree and I feel like everyone who was interviewed. Um there were consistencies Amongst their stories. Um, that does not match what I imagine that the murdolls Would have said would have said yeah, um, had they been participants of this documentary. Um, I Was not shocked. Um, would just their, um

What would you call it like a fluency That the housekeeper took care of paul. Um, I didn't know that that was not shocking to me I did that was information that that I found out through watching this documentary, but I was not shocked by that. Um, I think but they they said that um, the mom was Like for lack of better words, she was like obsessed with her first son and just was not connected to paul whatsoever and so the nanny essentially raised him and he would call her before he would call his mother and to me It made a lot of sense just based off of

The issues of what we know that paul had Why he would maybe have chosen to To go down the path that he did with like the drinking the partying the um Out of control-ness, I guess um, I definitely sensed lots of mommy issues there and I think that that with the older son, he wanted to follow in the footsteps of You know his family and you know be an attorney and do all of these things that I think that paul probably had no interest in You know doing those things and I think that um, her obsession with buster

Probably caused a lot of strain on the relationship that she could have with paul um with the housekeeper For taking care of him That to me is just so sad and shows the amount of disconnect There. Um, yeah And I think that this happens a lot kale. I think it happens a lot with with people that you know have money It's easier for a housekeeper to just take care Of the children. Um in this case just just the youngest child

Um after watching all of the stuff about the boating accident Wait, can I just say too? Um My mom was the paul of her family and my mom's family was The the myrtles in the sense of not because what I took away from the documentary was that the myrtles were not great people Um, yeah, I absolutely adore my family. My mom's parents are passed away now rest in peace, but Very well to do comfortable, you know Very much known in the community very, you know, my mom was able to get custody of me through

Um a really shitty situation because my mom's family had paul And then my mom was essentially the paul my mom was the partier the drinker the you know what I mean And so in that way I really related to that my mom's older brother is a doctor and very much like buster like Wanted to be the best of the best wanted, you know to live comfortably as well, etc. etc. And so in a lot of ways I related to that and um Just seeing it from an outsider's perspective is really fucking sad

Well, and I also just want to say like as a parent just because you're financially doing what you're supposed to be doing For your child doesn't mean that there's not elements of neglect And I definitely feel that paul was neglected um in some ways and Regarding the boating accident. I just want to say as a parent. I tried to put myself in the myrtle shoes Knowing that their son had had gone out and just been so reckless and His recklessness led to someone's life being taken I think as a parent it's just in our nature to want to protect our children at all cost

But yeah, you have to ask yourself You know at what cost because You want to protect your child but at the same time What is it costing them and also you by protecting them had paul actually had to suffer consequences for things that he had done ahead of this accident um and had to face those And there had been some sense of suffering and when I say suffering like Just like living through the consequences of some of his prior actions prior to the boating accident

He might not have gotten on that boat or at least not driven it fully intoxicated And I I think that I just want to say that that's why I have said before regarding the drinking Um, these are the types of things that happen when kids are left unsupervised in this case left unsupervised An affluent family can pretty much get themselves out of anything paul would have witnessed this his entire life Knowing that you know, he could pretty much do whatever he wants to do and not have to face any consequences because it seemed as if no one in his family's ever had to do that

and With the drinking do I want to promote underage drinking? Absolutely not but to teach kids Safe drinking safe sex all of that to me is super important and it shows that he wasn't monitored and also not Not taught how to really know when enough is enough and Had he had to suffer consequences is ahead of this the boating accident might not have happened and

something like that This was truly an extreme Um And I do feel like as parents we need to prepare our kids for situations like this and how to remove yourself when You know, you are in danger and someone else is putting you in danger Yeah, I mean because they I mean the other people sat there on the interviews and they said that they knew they probably shouldn't have gotten on But you know when tensions are high people make mistakes and when there's drinking involved

sometimes your judgment is clouded and you know, I'm not going to shame their survivors by any means but I definitely agree with you um I think that it's important to me as a parent and for other parents to hear that when your kids um are being placed in harm's way and and their safety is Of concern to teach your children how to identify those things and how to stand up for themselves and advocate for themselves because I think that it's very clear to me after watching this documentary. They knew that they were in danger

Um, it was how do we stand up against someone? um That their family quite Honestly just has all the power in their minds in the world And I think there's a lot to be said about people who you know, sometimes when they're under the influence and because The driver of the boat was also The family owned that boat How do you?

Get that person to give up the driver's seat when it's their boat and they're saying no like how do you? Without it getting physical Simply I think the solution there would have been to just not get on the boat and call for help um, but Coulda shoulda woulda right, you know, I mean right Okay tree hut can we talk about this because I have talked about these products all the time actually I got you into tree hut Yeah, you turn me on to tree hut. I did Lindsay and I actually did a trip to we did a haul I think it was in Atlanta or Dallas. I can't remember and I turned Lindsay on to tree hut body scrubs

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After watching this documentary, I do believe in my opinion. It's very clear that buster murdoch It had said that he had been rumored to have an intimate relationship with steven Just based off of what I saw. I believe that this could be true and simply even more think so Knowing everything that we know about the family at this point the way they cover up things how they deal with things And also I fully believe just geographically where they're located

The area how it's run I believe that they would not have been okay with this type of relationship I agree with you. Um, totally. I saw On facebook or something. There was like pictures of like essentially the abandoned property and stuff. Um, and I agree to your point of Where they are geographically located. I wonder just like an off side note Like what happens to their estate and everything that they own now that alex is in prison Um, does the grandfather own it like I want to know like where does that like what happens?

Does it go up for what is it called? Um, well, I mean that'll be interesting to see how That all plays out because I'm sure just based off of The the financial aspect of this case alone. That's a case really in itself. Um, that has never been tried So that'll be interesting to see how all of that unfolds Didn't want to speak a little bit on the housekeeper's death. Um, because there there were multiple deaths Um, surrounding the murals and

you know Is it possible that the dogs Tripped her um that caused her to fall No, I'm sorry, but no I trip over my dog all the fucking time and I Never fall if I fell I'm not gonna die. My dog's huge. I have my dogs are literally over a hundred pounds. I would No, I just want to play devil's advocate that if she fell if the dog tripped her up and she fell and actually hit Her head and had like some type of brain bleed something like that Is it possible?

Yes, anything's possible, but do I think that this is what happened? No um after watching the documentary knowing that you know, gloria had direct access to You know finding alex's drugs uh reporting that to paul because of her close relationship with paul um and then just the way that it all played out after the fact that alex was willing to sue himself, um for a multiple million dollar settlement

That ultimately benefited him um Causes me to question everything because that family did not see one dime of that money Wait sue himself. Yeah, so he he sued himself like his homeowner's insurance or whatever And there was like a multi million dollar settlement. I think it was like four point something million dollar settlement that um was received for the um wrongful death or whatever of gloria

and the family was supposed to Get the money and alex Got the money. What the fuck. Yeah, I think we remember that but I didn't know that I didn't I guess I didn't realize he sued himself So he didn't get end up giving any of that money to gloria's family. No, so, you know that in itself um The death was already like suspect but then like how he handled that

um, and I do think that his knowledge of the law and his direct influence with law enforcement Allowed him to get away with things like this for such a long period of time and no consequences um Want to speak on his suicide attempt? um Just really briefly it was said in the documentary that he had hired somebody to shoot him, which was said to be his drug dealer Um that shot him in the head. I do have thoughts on this. Um What do we think about?

They're possibly being two shooters in the crimes against Maggie and paul Like do we think that there's a possibility that alex and eddie could have acted together? Killed paul and maggie Maybe eddie knew about it. It got alex scared possibly alex was trying to set up this like

This suicide this fake suicide attempt with intentions of actually killing eddie claiming self-defense and then pinning the murders on him like Because of the way alex moves. I don't think that's farfetched. No, I don't think anything is farfetched when it comes to him I just cannot believe Do you think this is a case of like money is the root of all evil? I do um because I just You can't tell me that alex grew up this way with these thoughts But like how the fuck do you turn from? Like this isn't a case of like a family man

Like it's almost it's so sinister to me like has he always been sinister has he always had thoughts like this? Like do they develop over time? Like I just have so many fucking I don't think you become this way overnight I think it is the more you get away with The more power you feel like you have power you feel like you have so then the further the stretch So you might have got away with something small and then you know that something small becomes a little bit bigger That's becomes a little bit bigger and when you're facing no consequences along the way Um, I think that's how a situation like this ultimately ends up happening um

At this point like as of Today or yesterday. I think yesterday Entering week six of the trial. I could honestly see it going either way um He could he could be acquitted. There could be a hung jury. He could be found not guilty. He could be found guilty Um, what I will say is just based off of the coverage that I have seen in court um, and just what I know from Watching multiple documentaries

He is a really good liar with privilege um connections to law enforcement over many many years Um, and he is an attorney so that cannot be dismissed I think that he knows very well Um, what to do what to say what not to say how to say the things that he is saying and how to convince people and I think the mentality of He might be a liar and he's acknowledged the fact that he's a liar. Um,

And I think that that is part of his lying scheme but The mentality would kind of be like I might be a liar, but I'm not a murderer It's hard not to hate someone like that Um two other cases that we have seen and covered Based off of circumstantial evidence where Casey anthony found not guilty and scott peterson found guilty

Ultimately, it's going to end up To the jury It's going to you know be in the jury's hands to decide if he's guilty beyond reasonable doubt The jury is said to be heading into the moselle property to get a view of where the crimes took place So they're actually like physically going there, which is interesting Um, and By the time you guys hear this

It'll be thursday, but the defense has Rested its case the jury is said to be deliberating by friday just based off of My knowledge of a trial with my parents this could or could not be the case. There's multiple things that could delay um They could start deliberating before friday like who who really is to say Um, I do believe that after six weeks. They probably will be deliberating by friday I'm looking at like the myrtle property Just because it's so the whole thing is just so fascinating to me like I don't

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Just want to start off And say that I have never and we've talked about this before but I have never understood the idea of fantasizing over an alleged killer We talked about it when we covered scott peterson and disgusting Disgusting. What was that other guy that we covered? Chris Watts Um, it's just insane to me how you fantasize over someone who is being held for allegedly killing four people There were some things that like surfaced on reddit and I'll make sure that the screenshot of this like gets posted

But it's honestly like so crazy Um, some of the things that were posted this is just like one redditor said just imagine making love to him Seeing that intense stare that he's looking back at you so hot He definitely gives off dominant vibes and he's probably into knife player choking I let him run a cold blade down my chest while he's on me. Are you fucking kidding me? No, like someone else said I bet he's into knife play I would assume dominant and kick dominant and kinky would like to figure out which kinks Like I'll post the screenshot so that you guys can see it, but it's literally just like insane to me. I have never understood

Never understood that like first of all Just no, um, absolutely not Okay, so capital criminal defense provider agreement between I mean, I can't say it. Catoona to Cotani county and lathall county regarding the representation of brian co-burger um

The chtani chief public defender and taylor They have 30 days from june 26 2023 to notify co-burger that they're seeking the death penalty Um, the judge has cleared and taylor as of now to represent co-burger. There's just been some interesting information surrounding that um, and taylor actually worked with zanna cernodals mother and four different cases and um, was even her representation when co-burger was arrested and she quickly filed to remove herself from zanna cernodals mother as representation so that she could represent co-burger

But that should be a conflict of interest. No, well, we're gonna get into that in a second Um, and taylor was also said to have represented madison mogan stepmother in june 2022 and her dad in late 2020 Um conflict of interest in a death penalty case. This could overturn a conviction. Um, that Very much worries me. Um I would hate to see them have the amount of evidence that In my opinion, they have and then him be able to get off due to conflict of interest

Like I certainly hope that there is no possible way that he can Get off that way. I'm wondering if they're gonna have him sign some type of conflict waiver Um, to where if he is convicted, he can't come back and then claim the conflict of interest so Whenever I was getting divorced and trying to buy a house. I wasn't even allowed to use the same attorney um Or it was something along those they might have

represented me or hobby in custody I don't know what the what the end up what the the situation was but I remember I couldn't use an attorney here in delaware because And it was two completely separate things and then I know like At one point another cast member Wanted to use my attorney like another cast member from team mom wanted to use my attorney And she had to sign A conflict of interest waiver saying that like

Our stuff is separate and like we you know, it was a conflict of interest situation. So That's weird to me that they would allow this so I have Pretty decent knowledge regarding conflict of interest just again because of my parents case There is a potential that they are going to have him sign some type of conflict waiver Yeah, and in the event that he does that then that will remove his rights to be able to go back and You know claim that there was a conflict of interest at that point

There is said to be an informant in this case That is being protected under informant protection laws There has been so many different rumors going around that the informant could be one of his parents. It could be one of his sisters It could be somebody from in the house It could be somebody who was acting with him like there is no true direction on who The actual informant is which means they are actually being protected in the way that they should be protected under the informant protection laws Um by definition an informant is a person who provides privilege information to law enforcement So this could be an eyewitness that we don't know about someone co-breaker possibly confided in

I doubt that he would be that brazen. But honestly, who knows Um, who leaves a knife sheath behind at a crime scene Um, it is possible. Someone else is involved. Um, Again, could be anybody at this point the rumors regarding the door dash order. Um, That had been speculated that co-breaker ordered it It is being said that the only door dash open during that time Was in pullman washington But I don't want people to get hung up on that because with those areas being so close together

It could just be Like a fluke But also because he was coming from pullman Um, could also be that he ordered it I'm not familiar with the door dash situation. So supposedly um door dash had been ordered and um a door dasher dropped off door dash Right before the murders took place Um And why is that relevant? I don't know like who we don't know. Um,

If co-breaker ordered the door dash and maybe like Let's say the door dasher rang the doorbell and somebody didn't order it If he was watching the house that could be an indication that he was like looking to see who came to the door Okay, you know, or if anybody came to the door like who knows really, you know, like what the mind said is behind that Um, it was said that co-breaker Was fired from his teaching assistant position on december 19th days before his arrest Some are saying that this could point to motive. I'm unsure on this. Um This could have been, you know, a further just point of like jealousy rejection anger

um, and just like heightened the situation, um, there was a whole timeline of Multiple things that happened regarding his teaching assistant job that I do plan to to post so that you guys can kind of like follow along It was multiple meetings that he had. I think that um stemmed all the way back to like september And then he was finally let go um Very interesting to me one thing that blows

Absolutely blows my mind and this goes back to what you and I have said ever since we started covering true crime Is why in the fuck would you bring your phone? No, no, no, like why in the fuck would you commit a crime this day in time? with technology right because There's just too much like literally My dog's air tag went set off my my friend bones phone And we were trying to figure out like did someone put an air tag on her and then just it turned out to be my dog's air tag

That cameras pinging towers like bringing your phone technology in general I just read the next point and I'm kind of mind fucked right now so in Kaylee's room there was a bluetooth speaker um, and I watched several videos about how It could have reached to a cell phone Even if it was placed in airplane mode. So if he carried his phone in the house Um, which why the fuck would you carry anything? Like if I am committing a crime, which I'm not but like if I'm committing a crime

I'm not carrying like things that might like get possibly fucking left behind like Are you dumb? But again, I don't know that he Is the wisest. I think he is one of those people that thinks he's a lot smarter than what he actually is Yeah, um If this phone did connect to said bluetooth speaker in Kaylee's room That would put him at the scene of the crime and that's pretty solid evidence Again technology there was a walmart receipt that was uncovered

It would be interesting for And I'm sure that this is like all happening But just like my thoughts on it would be so interesting for them to pull the footage of the checkout using the timestamp of the receipt To see what was actually purchased. I saw this one tick talk that was like Um, walmart sells the actual type of knife that he used So what if they have him on video like even at yourself checkout at walmart? They're all like on video Okay, wait, let's go back to the speaker thing really quickly. So number one Do we know if the speaker was on?

Um, I believe that the bluetooth speaker was was on in the room Um, okay, and so and then in order for his phone to have possibly connected He would have had to pair it with the um with the speaker So it it's possible that it may have connected or it may have popped up But if he didn't connect it then what we don't know But I wonder if there's some type of like back way that they're using I mean, I'm not great at technology, but is there any way to tell From that bluetooth device what it was trying to connect to

Okay, I see what you're saying because I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like they have um The technology to be able to determine like on your car gps like where like that. Yeah, I agree and then the walmart thing Why haven't they done that already? That feels like common sense. I don't know what they have So gotcha gotcha with all of the stuff being sealed like under that gag order Um, and not being released to the public. There's probably a ton of information I mean, I'm sure there's like mounds of information that we just don't know. It was just my thought about the walmart receipt like any time you're going into a store and

Especially like a walmart or something at their self-checkout Most most walmarts that I've been into at this point are on self-checkout and They are literally all like you can see yourself checking out like walmart target, whatever I'd be checking my hair in there. So do I look okay? Listen like Coeberger obviously wasn't looking at himself and if he was Then maybe he just thinks that like he was so smart that he was never going to get caught. So none of this stuff would matter I would love to see the footage. Um, if they do get the footage from walmart. I'm sure they have obtained it by now I just like want to see it for myself. Um, just to see how like brazen that he actually was

Search warrant from pennsylvania is supposed to be unsealed on february the 27th. Um, That was yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. So I don't know it said anywhere from february 27th to march 1st I believe is what I read. Um, this would give us more information on what was actually found in his parents home and in the car Um, would there be in a gag order in the case in Idaho? Unsure if it will be unsealed or not because you're dealing with two different Uh, if it like stay unsealed, um, you're dealing with two different jurisdictions. So like don't know some other interesting information was um news nation reported that ethans best friend went to the house around noon and found zana and ethan

Um, talked to the 911 dispatcher on roommate dylan's phone. Um, it was said that the surviving roommates had summoned friends to the house When it was thought that the victims had passed out and wouldn't wake up my question on this, um is I believe that the roommates might be considered the informants um, or informant I don't understand why they would have called or summoned friends to the house before they called 911 because if someone was murdered in the way that these people were murdered

Wouldn't there have been blood and like noticeable Something like something about that to me just does not add up that well And I've said that since the beginning whenever they were saying like the eight hour thing or whatever the the time stamps were on Like calling 911 and one of the roommates possibly seeing somebody, you know Slide out through the sliding glass door things like that like something is not adding up and I I'm gonna say something very disgusting right now, but like when I get my period I can smell the blood Mm-hmm. That is a significantly less amount of blood. Yes. It's a different. I mean, it's still blood Mm-hmm. But if if there was a if there was a dead body in this building where I have my office

I'm pretty sure if I can smell my period blood. I'd be able to smell the blood of an entire body I I just think that there's something very there's something very off about that and I'm not buying it blood is messy blood runs blood blood pools You cannot convince me that there was no commotion No going on At any point in the night where they're awake. They allegedly saw somebody there's blood blood had to have gotten somewhere when I eat chocolate

There's always somewhere chocolate on me, right? Yeah, sure blood. There's blood somewhere. There's footprints. There's The shit's not adding up like there's too much. There's too much too much I feel like there's just a lot of information that we don't know Which is why there's so much speculation around this case and I do think that Unfortunately, it's going to be until The discovery is is released to the public which I know a lot of news outlets have filed lawsuits Saying that

you know Because of the first amendment They should have access to this stuff that the public should have access to this stuff. So I will be interested to see how that all plays out Um and the last update that I have is that it had been reported that co burger had photos Um, I believe of matty on his phone Um, and the reason that they didn't actually release that it was matty's name But news nation and people magazine said that

It appears that there were multiple photos of one of the victims And that the photos had said to be downloaded off of instagram Um, and he had been reaching out to this individual through instagram The reason that I think it's matty is because he followed matty and kaylee, but he liked all of matty's photos So to me that would like Match up if he's liking all of the photos. Maybe he's like screenshotting them and having them on his phone Um, to me this screams obsession which could also speak to possible rejection Um, I will be very interested to find out if there had been any communication between

matty and co burger If it truly was like a stalker type situation and she maybe had never met him something like who knows what will actually Find out but if he was obsessed and You know that obsession Um, led to the rejection. Um, because he was so obsessed. He was reaching out and if she wasn't responding You know, like that could be motive. Yeah. No, I definitely agree with that and people You know, they don't like to be rejected. That's that's a feeling that people don't like to sit with so There's just so much going on

Okay, well, we have time for one foul play. Unfortunately my true crime bullshit took a lot of time But it was just like so many updates that I couldn't like not tell you guys Oh, there's some really good stuff in here though, but we'll have to do it next week. Okay. So foul play Hi girls from Puerto Rico. Love you and all your bullshit been listening since the beginning with you guys I've cried laughed and enjoyed every single part of your journeys So when I was like 12 my parents left me and my siblings with our aunt because they were going on a vacation We stayed at her house for those days one night I showered and washed my hair and went to my aunt's room to find a comb or something to detangle my hair

Mind you my hair is long. So it reached my butt I so I found one of those hard round brushes that you use to maybe blow dry your bangs and started to pass it through my hair When I got To the back somehow it got stuck badly right around the back of my neck I was so embarrassed to tell my aunt or my siblings. So I left it there I went to bed with the brush stuck on my hair and sure as fuck it got way worse by morning So the next day I was going to school with my hoodie on and not tell anyone including my boyfriend at the time What the fuck I what the fuck was I thinking when my aunt picked me up from school?

I decided I was going to tell her I had a brush stuck in my head and couldn't get it out for the life of me She was so sad for me and couldn't understand why I couldn't why I didn't tell her She called my mom and told her what happened and the next thing I know I'm sitting at my boyfriend's mom's beauty salon chair getting a fucking dora the explorer haircut Because they couldn't save my hair. I could have died right there and then I was mortified. I was embarrassed and I cried the whole fucking time I'm 28 now and to this day. They still bring it up. Bye first of all That was just like commitment to like not causing commotion that you like slept with that brush in your hair

You went to school with a hoodie on with that brush your hair But I will say I feel like as a kid you just like do stupid shit like that And don't even realize how stupid it is until you're an adult and you're just like, why did I do that? It like makes me think of um I've got a photo that I need to show you Um, I don't know if I'm going to be showing everybody this actually I will I'll put it in the kitty gang group chat because I just feel like it's one of those things that I can't Just share with like anybody. So I'll put it in there. This is a group text between me and will and jackson

um First this was like the snack remnants that was found underneath jackson's Bathroom like where he had hit all of them because we also had that scenario going on at my house this weekend Where we just find snack wrappers and shit like where they don't belong. Yeah As you scroll down, what do you see? Is that skid marks? Yes. Oh, okay. Okay, and um Underneath the first the the back the box of snacks will says dead dead underneath this shit underwear It says double dead No, and I said what is happening? So I say all of this to say that like kids do the darndest things and

I've explained to jackson like if you shit your draws like Why are you hiding them underneath your sink thinking we're not going to find them? Like you have less chance of me noticing that you have skid marks in your draws like in In your draws like in the actual bin that it belongs in Then me Going in underneath your cabinet to put like towels under there or something and then I just see like skid mark underwear laying around and I'm like Okay, obviously you shit yourself

Oh, man, you know, so I just think that like this is just like the weird stuff that like kids do It's it's like the bang cutters, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of bang cutters that are listening to this that you thought that you were going to get away with like a fresh bang job and Your parents weren't going to find out and it's like how they're hiding out here and you're doing all this like I'll never forget we lived in this like little apartment like right before chase was born And I never slept in my own room. I had always slept with my dad until we moved into this apartment And julie was dead set like you were going to have no kids in the bed like we're about to have another kid So she's got to sleep in her own room. So I would go in there and like play during the day

Whatever and I took kitchen shears in that bedroom and tried to like snip like a little bit of my bangs and then I hid the hair like under not in the trash can underneath the trash can And like how did I think I wasn't going to get caught? So I just say all of that to say like why do kids think that they're Smarter than they actually are. I don't know. It's just what they just do They just they really think that they are so smart and sometimes they are but sometimes they're also not Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can I can relate. I also was that idiot. So whoever got the hairbrush stuck in your hair Um, I'm glad that it's out now and you're sorry for you

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