Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Peeing My Pants, Boozy Susie & Edibles Gone Wrong

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

CC287: It's getting to the end of the school year, the time where parents and teachers stop caring about school and crave for that summer break... But is Kail and Lindsie ready for the summer? The Fac...ebook group asks whether Kail would let Lindsie interview Kail's mom Susie, a mental health update from both, and Lindsie finally admits she wouldn't be herself if she hadn't met Kail. For Foul Play, we are reminded to never play with edibles, horny teen boys are kinda gross, and if we accidentally send nudes to the whole town... we're immediately turning off our phones and never turning it on again.  Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more!  Thank you to our sponsors!Bettersleep: Improve your quality of life in as little as one week, download BetterSleep from your App Store or Google PlayChime: Get started at chime.com/convosEarth Breeze: Visit EarthBreeze.com/coffeeconvos for 40% off your purchaseIQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000Progressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your field scale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I'm just not with a bakery anymore. There's a bakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Hello Coffee Convose, Fluffers, kitty gang, welcome to the fucking podcast. Welcome to the actual shit show. I need to tell you a recap of my entire morning. Okay. Are you ready? No, because you came in guns fucking plates, so I'm not ready. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Christine goes, were you yelling? Yes, absolutely I was. Okay, so we all know the magic focus button on our iPhones that Kale and I love to use. And it's one of Kristen's favorite things that I do, but also I think she hates it when she can't get in touch with us. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Bitch be ringing through the focus, okay? Tell you somebody else who was ringing through the focus this morning was my ex-husband. Oh, okay, well, shout out to the little bimbo. Shout out, Al, well, Campbell. Jackson and I went to dinner last night. We normally like always go to the park or we'll go do like some type of outside activity and then do dinner on like Wednesday and Thursday nights
Starting point is 00:01:46 that I have him and with Summer like fastly approaching. I just don't give a shit about school anymore That's where I'm Just don't so it's like if we're getting home from dinner at 9.30 at night Like I'm very fine with it So will had told me that they were going to go to the beach on Friday. And I was like totally fine. You can check them out of school after that 11 o'clock. He's counted for the full day. Don't care. Well then, as the week progresses, he's like, well,
Starting point is 00:02:21 my brother wants to leave at 5 a.m. on Thursday. So like Friday's not really going to work. And we're just kind of like at this place and the co-parenting where we're just not really caring about days. Like we try to stay on schedule as much as we possibly can. But like when things come up, it's perfectly okay. And neither of us care about school at this point. So I said, you can take Jackson and just pick him up from me on Thursday morning instead of him going to school
Starting point is 00:02:49 and then you guys can go ahead and head out. So I said, what time do I need to have him ready? He said, six, 30, you'll be good. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. But okay. So have my alarm set and My phone doesn't even go on the vibrate setting so not quite sure how my phone started vibrating in the bed this morning But I see a number pop up that like I don't know and I'm like who would be calling me like this early from this number And like I have like one eye like halfway open. Oh good. And I'm like probably ex boyfriend like I don't know who this is.
Starting point is 00:03:28 This is crazy. I'm just not going to answer it. So then I start getting FaceTime videos from Will. And I'm like why the hell is my ex husband trying to FaceTime me? From a number that you don't know? No, no, no. Then it was him. Oh, oh, oh, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So I tried to answer and I thought that I answered his face time, but really it was the number that I didn't know. And I was like, what? And he said, answer your fucking gate. And I'm like, oh, this is like the number calling from my gate to let him in. So he comes to the door and Jackson's in the shower and he acts like it's an emergency.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And I'm like, why are you being like what you are right now? And he's like, being like what you are. And he's like, take it his shoes off and he's like all in a fluster. And I said, why are you doing? And he said, I have to take a fucking emergency shit. I've been there. I have absolutely been there.
Starting point is 00:04:35 He's, I'm trying to fix Jackson breakfast, clean out my sink like all this stuff. He's in my powder room. And do you remember like way back when, when Will and I were married? And I talked about how I hated that he shit in the powder room. Like you you remember like way back when when Will and I were mirrored and I talked about how I hated that he Shit in the powder room like you don't shit. Yeah, you don't. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay Well, I mean now that he's actually a guest in my home That would be the logical place that he would be taking a massive dump
Starting point is 00:04:59 But then he's in there hollering from the bathroom And he's like what happened in here in this bathroom? And he's like, what happened in here in this bathroom? And I'm like, oh, the dog just ate off the fucking baseboard. But like, why are you talking to me in my house? Well, I'm trying to fix my kid breakfast. And you're taking a shit. Like, this is not normal.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Like, it's truly not normal. But yeah, focus mode got me messed up. And then somebody just showed up at my door unannounced without asking so that's been it's been a fun morning and you don't that doesn't sit well with you ever So even if they're like a wanted and liked guest. Yeah, just like don't come over Don't ever show up. Don't ever No, how are you? I'm okay. I'm exhausted as per usual.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I got this dunk in drink that I'm drinking right now. If you hear the ice, it's called a turtle. And I don't even think there's any coffee in it. It tastes like almost, it's supposed to be like a signature latte, but I really feel like it's just a milkshake. That's what it tastes like. I don't really like milkshakes.
Starting point is 00:06:09 No, I really don't love them either, but I needed a midday pick me up because there's no reason why I should be this tired at 12 in the afternoon. Yeah, absolutely not. I laugh sometimes because the amount of shit that I get done before noon and a day seems like very chaotic but very productive but also psychotic.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Like by the time this 628 they walked out the store at 628 this morning, Jackson was fed, showered, wheeled shit, they were on the way. I was going to go out and prune my ferns. What does prune mean? You know, like, I don't really know, to be honest. I thought I did until my fern looks like what it does. It looks like, I'm going to go out and prune my ferns. What does prune mean? You know, like, I don't really know, to be honest. I thought I did until my f firm looks like what it does.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It looks like what I would imagine a bull cut looks like on a kid. I tried to take some kitchen cheers out there. Well, I'm going to back up. I took, Nanny asked me about my firms and she's a big firm woman. And I had been kind of lying about how well they're doing and with the anticipation that she might be stopping by here tomorrow, I started getting nervous so I was like okay I have two options here because I've been a major liar. I will either prune these ferns and get all the dead off and she'll never know.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Or I have to make a home depot or a loaise trip to go and pick up some new ones to replace them and she'll also never know. Okay. But the bitches were fried. Like when I tell you you know me, I cannot keep a house plan alive. I cannot keep an outside plan alive. Like the green thumb is not existing. So I Was cracking myself up sitting outside on my porch this morning after doing all that shit outside the house
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm like I'm just gonna go prune these ferns up here so I take them out of the planner and First one it's starting to look good and I'm like, okay, like the dead's coming off like this this might not be so bad Kill I stood back. Looked at it, and when I tell you, the amount of wonkiss of like what it looks like. The wonkiss? Is that a word?
Starting point is 00:08:37 I don't know. I don't know. You just make that up. I've just used that word for forever. It's like wonkiss. It just looks like all lopsided and like, there's just things sticking out in areas that it probably shouldn't be sticking out and it's like balled in some areas. Honestly, it looks like a misshaved cat.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Okay. Okay. Yeah. So it's still sitting on my front porch. I was dying laughing because I put it on Instagram and the messages that came through people were like wait are your neighbors watching you do this? Are they were they and then it made me think that I probably look like that guy that I talked about that used to be my old neighbor that was outside cutting his grass with scissors. With the scissors? Yep. They probably that my neighbors now are probably thinking that that's me now. So it's been real fun. We had field day yesterday, and I'm at last week or two weeks of school events stress me out.
Starting point is 00:09:40 The amount of stuff that goes on, it's like field day, award ceremony, end of your class party teacher gift. No, that's why I took off like the entire last week of school because I checked the schedule and it didn't have like any of the dates for June it only had up to May 31st. So I was like, fuck and I told Chris
Starting point is 00:10:01 and I'm like, I don't wanna have to last minute cancel because they wanna last minute tell me what these days are. So the last week of June, not the last week of June, the last week of school, I pretty much took off from recordings because I was like, I have no idea what's what. Yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I just, I just signed up to take 20 milk cartons to the school and I don't even know where I'm getting those. So, love that for me and just it gets to the point of the year that once like all the academic stuff is done, I know that the kids love it and they want to do the field day in the class party and it's like what they work for all year long, but it's just like chaotic for parents. It is. And I, you know, I do feel bad for the parents who work full time, you know, during the day, they work a nine to five or, you know, maybe they work at night and they sleep during the day and they can't be there, you know, like that sucks, but it is, it's also chaotic as well. So if there's any consolation in that, just know, I see you, you're working
Starting point is 00:11:02 your ass off and honestly, I'd probably rather be sleeping then, you know, running around on field day anyways. So try to tell the moms that can't make it. It made me so sad yesterday, because I heard one of Jackson's little friends tell him, I wish my parents could come and the field, remember me telling you that field day was separated out into like two parts. Yeah, so that if one parent couldn't make it at that time, yeah. Mm hmm. So we'll went to the early part and he was there for that time.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And then they did popsicles and Jackson was like, Dad left just when the popsicles were being passed out and then you came. And I feel so blessed that we have schedules that were able to do that. But it made me so sad for the child that like didn't have either parent there. Yeah, my mom never could come to any of that stuff. My mom never came to anything when I had school. I honestly don't remember like field days
Starting point is 00:12:00 and stuff like that being parent involved. Were they? No, and like I don't know if I remember like years ago, we used to talk about going to lunch with our kids at school. That was never a thing when I was in school. When I was in elementary school, I never, ever remember a single parent coming to sit with their kids for lunch. Oh, I do. And you know how well, no, you don't, because you don't remember it,
Starting point is 00:12:25 but there used to be a rule when a parent came to like have lunch with their kid that they could bring a friend to like the table with them. So I was friends with the people that their parents always came and I got to go and eat with them. You're like, what's in your hands? Are you bringing Chick-fil-A?
Starting point is 00:12:44 And I just acted, yeah, it would be like a mom You're like, what are you bringing? Are you bringing Chick-fil-A? And I just acted. Yeah, it would be like a mom who brought like Italy and a bread company sandwiches or like Chick-fil-A or subway or whatever and I'm like, I'm really doing the most here with the least. Period. Wanna know how are you gonna keep the kids busy? I know that you talked about doing camps and whatever and how you were kind of like undecided on that. And I honestly have no clue. Like I don't have any idea. The camps that I'm finding
Starting point is 00:13:17 and that because I asked on like my personal Facebook, none of the camps are old enough. They're not for Isaac. They're for ages under Isaac. So I really don't know how many keep the kids busy. Like I, I truly don't. Um, did, so you didn't sign them up for any camp jet? Lincoln signed up for basketball camp. Just one. Yeah, it's like a week. A week one camp. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I feel like it's easier when I just have one,
Starting point is 00:13:46 because I don't have to split, you know, the money to go like different places. And it's also, you got to think too, like the chaos of transporting them to the camps, like you got to get one to one place, one to another place. It's just hard. The nice thing is, though, you do have the pool at home. So that'll kind of keep them Yeah entertained somewhat, but I don't know about you. We get stir crazy at home like it's it's good to have Like home days and I love those sometimes especially like if it's like a rainy day or something like that I love to be able to just like stay at home have a lazy day do things around the house But like all summer long, no. Yeah, I mean, this summer does, we also have like our little basketball court for Lincoln,
Starting point is 00:14:30 but that's, you know, they can only do that so many days in a row. You know what I mean? Like that's, there's only so many days in a row you can do that. And, you know, I would like to be able to take them to go do stuff. It's also really hard to do stuff here because like I said before, it's like hours and hours of a drive. So like, you know, an hour or two, to ball to more, to DC, to Philly, to all these places. And, you know, I have a lot of kids, so I gotta consider that.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And like, it's an entire field trip to take them. I mean, maybe we could try different parks for a while, like just local ones to make it easier. Yeah, for sure. Like, I don't know. Like parents with multiples. I'm like, that's a whole different breed of mom and dad, honestly. Like that might stress me out. It might stress me out.
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Starting point is 00:17:21 makeup bag? Kind of wanted to follow up on that. Like, what did you do? I didn't wear makeup to the company dinner. One thing that if I had to pick something to leave behind, that would be the last thing that I would want left behind because I think it is the most expensive stuff to replace. And it's so chaotic to try to get more.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, because you have to go through the matching thing. And then it's just expensive. So I'm not, yeah, I mean, Kristen went make up list to the company dinner as well. So she didn't leave me hanging. You always forget something when you travel. Always. Like it's normally panties.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yes, yes, which I did pee in them on the other day I peed in my underwear. And I was like, oh my god. Wait, who? Why? Because I was in New York and I was in like a, I was having a time. Kill, kill.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You being in New York is not, you're like, I pissed my pants because I was in New York Yeah, because I was stuck in a vehicle and then you know how traffic is and so by time I got into I think it was Kristen's hotel room. I had peed my pants Sweetie going to hunt for new underwear because I went to her hotel which my stuff wasn't at because I say that a different hotel So I had to we had to buy underwear wasn't at because I say that at a different hotel. So I had to we had to buy underwear. Um, that that seems very chaotic and I feel like you always have to buy underwear. Oh, don't owe me. I mean, it's probably accurate. Literally told us a
Starting point is 00:18:55 story about you taking your kids and it's always when you go to New York too. It's chaotic there. Like what about no, it was evidently chaotic before you started traveling because you forgot your draws. Forgot your draws. In the summertime do you completely like shift up your makeup and skin care routine because I'm in the process of going through my makeup bag and I use a different foundation in the summer. Different concealer. Don't really wear mascara. foundation in the summer, different concealer, don't really wear mascara. I do the lash lift intent, which is so nice
Starting point is 00:19:32 because then you don't have to worry about, you know, just being like black underneath your eyes. I use a different color blush in the summertime. My skin care pretty much stays the same except I up the anti on the summertime. My skincare pretty much stays the same except I up the anti on the moisturizer. I was just about to say that's what I'm doing right now because for some reason my jaw area and my chin are like so frickin dry so I'm just I changed my face wash and my and I I'm doing a different serum right now because I use the touch and moisturizer right now.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So I just got the rice face wash and the serum to go with it because I feel like it's super thick and like, what is the word? Poetant. So I just, I'm using that right now. I don't really switch up my makeup too much. In the summer, I do CC cream or BB cream, like a tinted moisturizer situation. But right now I'm trying not to wear it because my face is so dry, it looks disgusting.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like when I put makeup on it. I use CC cream all year round. Oh, I didn't know that. Like do you use a regular foundation foundation? Yeah, well I use Complexion Rescue which is not doing well with my dry skin. I usually use that or I use like honestly I have my drugstore. Like I don't use expensive foundations.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like I literally don't care. I also don't, I have to use everything until they're gone. So I won't get new anything until I use all of it. We've talked about this before that I am not, I don't wanna say I'm wasteful, but if something's just not working, I'm not gonna keep using it for the sake of, oh, I'm not wanting to waste this.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Like it was a waste at the point that I bought it and didn't work. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna just sign up to continue to look like shit. Well, in other news, I have a question for you. And there's maybe people, different people will have different opinions on this. So anyone who has their own opinion on it, please put it in our Facebook group. So I can see what is going on.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'm scared. It's not, no, no, it's not, it's not, and it's nothing bad. I just have a question. So when you were or are in a relationship with someone and you guys go to an event, a work event, a work dinner, a work anything or you go to, it could be like a birthday party, anything.
Starting point is 00:22:05 or you go to, it could be like a birthday party, anything. Are you a representation of your relationship or are you still a representation of your family, like your parents, your siblings, your family? Well, if I'm going to something for, I'm gonna try to relate it to something that would be like real life. If I'm going to something that would be like a working event for the person that I would with, I feel like I would be more inclined to be a representation of them since it was their event versus being a representation of just myself and what I would find appropriate
Starting point is 00:22:47 or a representation of my family. Okay, that makes sense to me. But if I'm going to an event that would be like for me, I feel like I'm going to be a representation of myself. And still not your family. Yeah, what? Let's be honest. I just, there was comment. Do we think Coffee Convo's podcast is a representation of Todd Crisley? No.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Okay. Absolutely not. Like, okay. Shout out to Todd. We're talking about clits and stuff on here. Yeah, no. At no point did I ever, do I ever think of coffee commas podcast? And I'm like, wow, this is a representation
Starting point is 00:23:30 of boozy, Susie and Todd Christie. Like I have never, I have never ever thought that in my entire life. I cannot, I cannot. Boozy, Susie. Kristen came up with that one. Like, I can't wait. You may tell you something that someone asked me.
Starting point is 00:23:49 They sent me a long DM. I'll try to find it. But the question was, would you interview? Now we're going to coin the phrase boozy, Susie. Would you interview her for a podcast episode if Kale would let you? And I'm like, thinking to myself, absolutely not. You wouldn't? No. If you were willing to do the interview with me, and I could interview y'all. No, I would want, I would love to just be a fly on the wall. She doesn't know I'm there.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I would love to hear her version because like just of events, of my childhood of all of it, I would love to hear her uninfluenced, like me not sitting there answers because when I wrote Pride Over Pity and I had said this before like years ago, I had to get permission from the people for a lot of the things that I wrote. So like, Janet said no to a part that I wrote in there that involved her. She would not sign off on it.
Starting point is 00:24:56 My mom surprisingly signed off on everything. She didn't have me change a damn thing in my book, not one thing. And so she obviously acknowledges what's in my book. So I would be curious to know just in general everything else, like would she what is her version, you know? Okay, I think I would maybe do it, but with boundaries. Okay. And also it would be hard for me. Like I would definitely need to prepare for something like that because I know too much. So it would be hard for me to be a non bias interviewer.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Okay, yeah. And that's part of it. And so how would I interview Busy Suzy and her say something that I know your lived version is different and me not be like, well, actually, that's not what happened. You know, like that would be really hard, but if she signed up for it and knew what she was going into before she agreed to do it, then of course I would do it, but I wouldn't feel comfortable also doing it without you being present
Starting point is 00:26:13 to some degree to be able to defend yourself or to hear what was going on. Like that would just be weird to me. I haven't seen her in so long. Should we try to call her? Well, I don't have her phone number, but I mean, she does have a Facebook. I don't know if she used how often she uses it, because the last I knew she was just like not an internet girlie, like she wasn't a person. She just like wasn't in touch, but yeah, I mean, that would be very, very interesting. And I would just, I mean, she acknowledged, she has to acknowledge some of it, right? Like, there has to be, but you know, Kristen, we got to, you know what, maybe you should look out, maybe you should start
Starting point is 00:26:55 looking for Susie. Yeah, I think that we should start, like, remember when we were looking for Susie that one time, and we acted like we were the literal federal Bureau of investigation. Yes, we were literally private investigators looking for a person. I would send you like screenshots and I'd be like, I think I found her. I literally had the craziest dream about her and her husband the other night and I woke up the the sheets were soaking wet because I was sweating. Isn't that the craziest thing when you are like in such a dream and it feels so real?
Starting point is 00:27:29 I, it's, it's almost made me sick. And then I saw a TikTok and it was like, don't worry, so, because I used to fixate on details of my dreams, like what does this mean? Like what is this trying to tell me? And the guy was like, stop fixating on the details of the dream and focus more on how it makes you feel. And I was like, what? Interesting. Yeah. And so I was really interested, you know, just by him saying that. And I was
Starting point is 00:27:52 like, that's such a good point. Like, you need to, because your dreams are trying to tell you something about how you are processing your emotions during your wake life and things like that. And I was like, that is such a good point. And that makes more sense than like trying to figure out what the color of a spider means, you know? Or this dream with my mom and her husband or her boyfriend whatever had sharks in it. Like, why am I going to try to specify what type of shark it is?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Like, that doesn't matter. It's how I felt and how much I was sweating profusely when I woke up. Interesting that you say that because I had a dream the other night where I was trying to analyze why I was having this dream. And I rarely remember details of dreams. And remember me saying once I'd have worse, like I didn't know if I was dreaming even though I know that like we're always dreaming. I just never remembered a dream
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, and I don't know like why wasn't so the other night I woke up to go pee and I was dreaming about somebody's ex-wife punching me in the face And I was like, okay, like is this like actually something that I should be alarmed by or Is this actually something that I should be alarmed by or is this something that's internally going on with me? Why is this? But back to Boozie Suzy. Are we going to try to find her? Yes, I'm putting that on Kristen's to-do list.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Also, Kristen just put another hat on today that she didn't prepare herself to be wearing. Another part is if I did agree to do the interview with Susie, I would want to vlog element because I feel like people would need to see it. Oh, 100%. 100% they would have to see it. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure they would have to see it. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure they would have to see it. Do you feel like her recollection of events
Starting point is 00:29:49 would be very different than yours? I don't know because like I have faith that she is not going to make me who look like a liar because she signed off on the book. So that's like my number one. Like if you wanted to dispute it, why didn't you then? Right. And so maybe once we get into details that are not in the book and more, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I think that she does, and also we would have to wonder like, her version, while sober, is probably very different than her version while she's
Starting point is 00:30:24 under the influence. Because I think there's a lot of guilt that comes up when she's under the influence and that's when she's like, you know, I should have been there more and so, you know, the her real feelings and her real memory, like of things will come up when she's under the influence where when she's sober, she might be a little more defensive and she doesn't want to be judged. That's just my that's just my thoughts. So that would have to be taken into consideration as well. Do you feel like you're in a place that we could actually do this? Yes, I do. Okay, so TBD. Coffee Compass podcast is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Most of you listening right now are probably multitasking. So while you're listening to us talk, you're probably also driving, cleaning, exercising, or maybe even grocery shopping. But if you're not in some kind of moving vehicle, there's something else you can be doing right now. Getting an auto quote from progressive insurance. It's easy and you could save money by doing it right from your phone. Drivers who save by switching to progressive save nearly $700
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Starting point is 00:33:31 So for us, it's like showering together. I always thought couples who shower together were so weird. And the first time I ever knew of people like showering together was my biological mom and my stepdad. And I always thought it was the strangest thing and I'm like, that just seems so controlling. Like, why can't you get in the shower and wash privately and like have a moment to yourself? And I never really understood that, but I never have really felt like showers were a sexual or should be a sexual thing. I'm getting in to get clean
Starting point is 00:34:13 and that I wanna get out. I don't mind doing it now. Mm-hmm. It doesn't like really bother me, but I don't know that I would feel comfortable with my child or someone else's children knowing that we were showering together. Oh yeah, this is always when my kids are in bed.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So what are you guys doing in there? Literally we get clean and we talk. That's our time where we... Because Elijah works in concrete, so he'silt the sweaty, smells like outside the whole nine by time he gets home. Once the kids are in bed, we will shower together and he'll like tell me about his day in there. Or like I'll tell him something, you know, that happened
Starting point is 00:34:54 or whatever. We haven't actually been able to shower together in a long time because we've been so busy. And if I have a minute to shower before the kids go to bed, I try to do that because by the time I do all the bedtime routines and stuff Eat dinner or if there's a sports night. It's just too late for me to shower So sometimes I'll shower as soon as we get home from school just so that I can get a shower in for the day Do you feel like you
Starting point is 00:35:20 view the chats and stuff like it is a Comfortable and like an at-piece place that you can do that and just be like in that moment without any distraction. Like you mean while we were in the shower? Yeah. Yeah, like, and also, no hate Elijah, if you're listening to this, he mumbles.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Like he, he's a man of very few words. And so sometimes he like, looks like this and like you have to pay really close attention to what he's saying's a man of very few words. And so sometimes he like, looks like this and like you have to pay really close attention to what he's saying, because you can't hear it. And so I'll be like, what? What did you just say? And so when we're in the show or he's right there, so I can hear him. And so it's just like, there's no distractions, I can really focus on what he's saying. ways of being intimate that are non-sexual, um, sitting on my porch, just with like the
Starting point is 00:36:08 little twinkle lights and a fire. Oh, that's cute. And you know, just like, some chats, um, dinners with no phones. Oh, yeah. That's like one of my favorites. Um, I have very much learned to accept the fact that I'm not going to have Jackson 100% of the time. And I very much value my time being able to do that without any distraction on like a Friday that I don't have Jackson. Like that's very nice to just have the adult quality time where you can have whatever conversations that you want to have without
Starting point is 00:36:45 feeling like you have little ears that are listening. Right. That's really nice. And like a wind down from the week, you know, like the week just gets so chaotic sometimes. And I feel like if you do not invest in those intentional moments without any distraction, then your relationships probably going to start getting problems. Yeah agreed. Mm-hmm. Okay This is also from the Facebook group How many weeks were you when you delivered your kids any tips tricks old wives tales to go into labor?
Starting point is 00:37:20 I Was 34 weeks when I went into labor with Jackson, and then I was in the hospital for like three days while they stopped labor. I was on bed rest from the time I went home and they put me on a medication. And that medication you could only take up to 36 weeks and six days or something like that.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I went off of the medication and within 24 hours, I went into full-blown labor and had them at 37 weeks. Jesus crap. That's really scary. It's weird too, because I always heard that and hearing things about pregnancy, I feel like you can't really go off of anybody else's experience because everybody's experience is just so different. I do think that there are, this is what should happen and a lot of people like fall in that textbook category, but then there's a lot of outliers too. I always heard that like with your first that it's normally
Starting point is 00:38:19 like your longest carrying time and that some doctors will let you go over 40 weeks. And so I was kind of like terrified of that. That just wasn't my experience. And they automatically told me if I had a second child, I would be considered high risk because I delivered term at 30. But you went into labor at 34. So you would definitely be high risk. I had, um, Isaac was 35. I went into labor, but, but... I wonder why. I think my period was probably wrong because he ended up coming out six pounds four ounces. I mean, the only thing that was a little bit of a complication was the liver and jaundice. So I think that possibly, me being so young, maybe my period was off, I don't
Starting point is 00:39:09 know. Lincoln was over 40 weeks, Lux was right on time, Creed was right on time. So, but Creed obviously had a really traumatic entrance into it. So I think the only advice that I would give to going into labor is the nipple stimulation because that is what my doctor told me is the only one that is proven to have like, to actually work and the rest of them are kind of like dangerous depending on what you do and how many you try it at a time. So I'm not gonna recommend anything else other than nipple stimulation or orgasms if your doctor is okay with it. Wait, back up. Because I've never heard about the nipple stimulation thing
Starting point is 00:39:53 or the orgasm thing. I've only heard of the old wives tales of castor oil, eggplant parmesan. What the fuck? Yeah, I've never heard of that. No, never. I've heard of the castor oil, which I don't even know what that is or where to find it. Ed Plant Parmesan. What the fuck? Yeah. Have you never heard of it? No, never.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I've heard of the cast oil, which I don't even know what that is or where to find it, but. I'm not recommending that to anybody. I'm not telling anybody to do that. I'm just saying, I've heard people do it. Talk about it. People say it works and some people have said that it doesn't. That was not something that I was willing to risk. I mean, I quite honestly wasn't a state to do that because his room had just gotten
Starting point is 00:40:30 finished being put together when I went into labor. And the crazy thing was too is I was measuring four weeks behind. So I went into labor at 34 weeks, but I was measuring 30. So I think they were just terrified. But when I had him, he was six pounds and 10 ounces at 37 weeks. So imagine if we would have went full term with Isaac and Jackson, we would have had 10 pound babies. Yeah, that's just like not a thing like my vagina is not cut out for that. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Also, I don't want to say this, but like, I do think that like sex could have had something to do with...
Starting point is 00:41:09 Allegedly, Siemens softens the cervix, and then an orgasm, you know, your contract, your, it's pulsating, it's contracting, and you know what I mean, so I think that's part of it. I think that could have been what possibly happened my second round when I went into labor at 37 weeks. Oh, gosh. I've ever said that. But yeah, I think that that might have been the case. I had something to do with it. Of course, me in the hospital, like with all of my parents, they are in Will's parents
Starting point is 00:41:38 there. I'm like, I just like, honestly, don't know what happened. Like, I just don't know. No clue. I just started feeling like this was not Braxton Hicks and it was time to come in. It was time. He was going to enter the world. There is no better feeling than making it to the hospital with I did have complications getting there because will miss turns. But outside of that, getting there and knowing that like you're safe at
Starting point is 00:42:05 will miss turns, but outside of that, getting there and knowing that like you're safe at the hospital and the doctors are there, I felt secure and fine once I reached that point, but I internally was freaking out on the way. I was scared to be one of those news stories where you pull over and the baby's like born in the seat. That was almost looks. I don't know what I would have done. I'm not cut out for stuff like that. They never even got the IV in me for looks and my doctor never made it. The nurses hit the button on the wall. Everyone flocked in the room. And they one of the nurses caught him. He shot out like a bat at a hell. I don't think Chris, Chris is probably still traumatized like to this day.
Starting point is 00:42:42 probably still dramatized, like to this day. It's probably like what in the fuck kind of samurai shit situation is this? Like, does the delivery get easier? No, I know, because Lux was 90 minutes flat from the time I water broke to the time he entered this world and Creed was like nine hours. It's so funny to hear a man's perspective on labor because obviously my dad had kids with two different women and obviously we all know it's no secret that we're all different
Starting point is 00:43:12 down there and my dad said that my biological mom had no issues with labor whatsoever. It was like she didn't break a sweat, had the babies, walked out of the hospital and blue jeans like non-maternity blue jeans. Julie's experience was absolutely totally different. She had hard laborers with both Chase and Savannah and then ended up having an emergency CC section with Grayson and it's just so weird how different women can have completely different experiences, but be going through the exact same thing. It's very strange. It's such like, and I've wondered that too, like,
Starting point is 00:43:57 when you have kids with different women, like, do you view them differently? Do you view them the same? I just have something to do with you. Like, I don't know. Because I can probably answer this question, so ask it. and like, do you view them differently? Do you view them the same? I just have something to do. What do you mean? Like, I don't know. Because I can probably answer this question, so ask it. Okay, so say, I don't know, like I don't want, I'm not gonna use my situation because I don't want to piss on you.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You as mine is an insane. Okay, so if you, so say Will has, you know, went through everything with you in Jackson and you were so strong and you had this like, you know, he watched his wife, you know, give birth to his first son, right? Is he gonna view that whole situation and everything that you guys went through different than like if he was to have a child with someone else? I would honestly hope so because we were so young when we had Jackson, 23, and I think that
Starting point is 00:44:38 he didn't know what to expect. So it was like the first time going through something. And I kind of always felt like, because my dad said that he was never in love with my mom, my biological mom, that it made the experience with Julie better because he was in love with her. But I had to learn through therapy that he was more ready to show up to that occasion with her in a different way than he was able to show up to the occasion with my biological mom.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And so I no longer hold resentment for that now because I know mentally he was just in such a different place with her that it actually had nothing to do with the kids. It had to do with his relationship with her. And so I think if Will had another child with someone else, I would hope that that child would be brought into this world like Jackson was in an in love situation, but he would be able to show up to that occasion much differently because one, he's older, he has more life experience. And two, he's been through all of that before. So, Will was great when we went through that experience, but he just didn't have the experience, which most first time
Starting point is 00:45:55 parents don't. I just had a lot of experience with babies because I had so many siblings. Yeah. Did you like having siblings growing up? No, I didn't. Um. No. I told my dad for so long. And like any time we all get in fights, I'm like, this is where you went wrong. Like you should have stopped after me.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But then like you could not stop. So then you, you know you did it 15 months later, and then seven years later, and then 15 months after that. And then that wasn't enough for y'all. So then you had to do it again when I was 17. 17 years apart between you and Grace. Grace, yeah. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah, they're 17 years gap. So they just kept having kids. And I'm like, if you loved me so much because my dad said that when I was born, it was the first time he felt like he ever experienced true love and what that was and felt like. And I'm like, OK, well, if that was the experience that you had, why do you have to keep going? And I'm like, okay, well, if that was the experience that you had, why do you have to keep going? And I was meant to be an only child.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Like I was. Okay, Isaac. Isaac tells me, he just tells me to stop having kids because they'll just all be boys. And he's only okay if I have more kids, if they're girls. But we don't really have control. I don't have any control over that, but that is so fun. You're like, why did you keep going? Like, I am the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So like, what did you need more for? Listen, I love my siblings and unique ways individually. So I always like them. Right. And they don't always like me. And I personally don't care. I just, I don't like you came after me. So literally nothing you say matters.
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Starting point is 00:50:39 or wherever you get your podcasts. OK, well, speaking of love and hate and all the things, also have a funny story to kind of go along with this. This is a question. If you were trying to go on a cheaper honeymoon, where would you go? At this phase of my life, I don't wanna go on a cheap honeymoon.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Okay. You said, backs. Speaking of honeymoon, the other day, we'll show it up over here for something and he was wearing our honeymoon shirt. And I was like, certainly, you don't wear that around girls that come over and hang out at your house. That would be fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Like, oh, did you get that shirt? It says, honeymooner on it. On the front. Oh, no. Oh, no. Like, in the left hand corner of the shirt, it just says, like, honeymooner on it. Oh, Oh, no. Oh, no. Like in the in the left hand corner of the shirt, it just says like honey mooner on it. And I like, sir, like, I think that although you might like that shirt and it might feel comfy, I think it's time to retire it. Sometimes like, I get a kick out of
Starting point is 00:51:39 stuff like that. And I always wonder, I think we've talked about like using gifts from our exes, like in the past on here. I had bought my ex a Louis Vuitton wallet for a gift at some point in our relationship. And I always wondered how long after we were no longer together, did he use it. I think he actually bought, I think I later found out he actually bought a new Louis Vuitton wallet so that he still had a Louis Vuitton wallet but not the one that I got him specifically. Okay funny that you say that because I was having a conversation with somebody the other day and I said the transition to my house that I'm in now it was kind of easy because one, my house was a new house and there was like no memories here, right? But I also didn't bring anything with me other than like personal items and by personal items, I mean like just like clothes and stuff like that. All my stuff is new. So like it, I was fortunate
Starting point is 00:52:43 to be able to be in that position to be able to do that. But I just wonder if Will ever thinks when he's sitting on his couch, if he's like, oh, this was like my couch when I was married, or like if he has a new girl come over there and she's just like hanging out on the couch, is that like weird? I mean, I had the marital bed for a long time. No, ma'am. I mean, I had the marital bed for a long time. No, ma'am. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm- A marriage mattress?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah. No. That's gotta go. I mean, it's gone now, but I did have it for a long time. I'm really weird about stuff like that, and it's like, no, I'm not being on the same mattress with like multiple people. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm not being on the same mattress with like multiple people. You know what I'm saying? No, I get that now.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Like, the only person that's ever been in my bed is Elijah. And if we were to split, I'm getting into mattress. Like, don't care. Yeah, I just feel like it traps sexual energy that like shouldn't go into another relationship. Is that nuts? No, I agree. I agree. Also, just like, not to, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Also, just like, not to be team. I mean, there's nothing to be in my own this fucking podcast, but like the bottle of fluids of like us as a, as a partnership, as a union, like we don't need that, so that's gonna be a no. That's a no for me, dog. We got on a, often a whole tangent about the honeymoon shirt and then that just went into a whole full blown
Starting point is 00:54:07 conversation. Very relatable, but back to the honey moon thing, I am convinced that traveling to Mexico to an all-inclusive is the way to go. I think out of all my vacations, definitely Mexico was the most affordable. I don't like the word cheap. I don't want to say the word cheap because I think out of all my vacations, definitely Mexico was the most affordable. I don't like the word cheap. I don't want to say the word cheap because I think affordable is better. But also I would say any all-inclusive it right now, and I could be wrong by saying this, but just maybe off the top of my head, I feel like the flights right now are the most expensive part. So some of the all-inclusives that I've stayed at are like Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I went to Jamaica, Negril, Jamaica for the Royalton. That's an all-inclusive. That was really nice right on the water. Lindsey and I have both stayed at Moon Palace, Cancun. I stayed at the Mayan Palace in Riviera, Mayama, Mexico, which was all-inclusive. And so I think it can find an all-inclusive outside of the states because one of the ones that I stayed at in Key Largo was way more expensive than if I would have went out of the country.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I agree. I feel like traveling within the U.S. to me, I feel like you get a better bang for your buck. Outside. When I travel to Mexico. And also, I feel like you're able to kind of budget better because when you know exactly kind of what the entire cost is versus getting there and then incurring cost of like very expensive meals that kind of stuff can add up. So in my opinion, if you can find an all inclusive that is reputable and nice and you know suits your fancy that is the way to go. Also if you, I'm not a huge huge fan of cruises I have done one but they are very affordable, they can be very affordable. That's an option and the only reason why I suggest that even though I'm not a fan is because if you go to like a multi stop, if you go on a multi stop cruise, you could always see a spot that you really, really like and you can, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:09 maybe plan in the future to go back to that one specific location. I always suggest that to people who want to go on a vacation on a budget. I don't think with me and all my children right now, a cruise would be as affordable, but like if you're going one person, two person kind of thing. And I think cruises you have like payment plan options. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Um, okay, next question. I'm interested to know actually feel like I know what you're
Starting point is 00:56:40 going to say about this, but interested. Do you feel like you have to be close to your partner's family? Do both of you and your partner have to attend family functions, or is it okay for one to go? So in my previous relationships, I wanted to be close with my partner's family, mainly because of my childhood issues in trauma. Like I just longed for a family so bad. That being said,
Starting point is 00:57:06 going into this relationship with Elijah, I would say that my guard was very much up. I was very, very apprehensive to meet his family. And then both before, when I wanted to be close with the family, and now where I am more guarded. Both situations, I feel like it is okay for them to go to family event without me. Elijah asked me if I wanted to go to dinner for his mom's birthday, and I just found out the day of, and unfortunately I just said, I'm not going to, I can't go because one, it's just not fun to bring all my kids to a restaurant. That's number one. Number two, they're not gonna eat half the food, so I really don't want to pay for it. And I was like, you should really go to dinner with your mom for her birthday.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like, absolutely, you go, I'll stay with the kids. Like, go enjoy dinner with your mom, your family, whatever, and I'll stay with the kids. Because I don't want to put that on them, you them, like all my kids at a restaurant for her birthday, and I'm stressed out, they're stressed out, they're running around. So I think it all depends on the scenario. There's obviously situations where you don't get along with the family and you don't want to go.
Starting point is 00:58:17 So it just depends. To me at my age now, I feel like I look at things so differently than I would have looked at them when I was married. It was hard to break habits once we created them at like 19 years old. That was really hard. After a lot of therapy, I feel like it is important to be close to your partner's family because that is an extension of them. That is a part of who they are.
Starting point is 00:58:47 If I had to do it over again, I was in Will's family and involved with him for the majority of my strangement from my family. And so I very much invested all of my time in what he had going on with his relationships with his family and kind of like try to find my own place in that. Okay. If I was going back, I probably would have done that a little bit differently because I feel like I lost so much when I went through the divorce. It wasn't like I just lost will.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I lost all of those relationships that I invested so much time, effort, and energy into. A hundred percent. And at the end of the day, his family is his family and they belong to him, not to me. And so it was kind of a divorce from the entire family. So that really, really sucked. I feel like it's super important to have an identity within your own self and not just investing into your partner's family and those relationships.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But I would want to be close to somebody else's family with boundary setting. And I think that it is important for them to be able to go and do family things without you. If I had it to do over again, I probably would have encouraged Will to do more things with his mom solo without both of us. When we would celebrate things like Mother's Day and stuff, it was like he was celebrating his wife and his mother. If I was going back, I would tell him like you need to invest in doing something with your mom as her being your mother outside of me. And I think it's okay to do certain family things without the other.
Starting point is 01:00:37 There's a lot of things going on in life and if I have a conflict in my schedule that I can't be present for something, I don't think somebody should have to sit out because I can't go. Right, 100%. And I don't know if I was always like that. Like I probably in my younger years would have been,
Starting point is 01:00:52 you know, felt left out or whatever the case may be. I don't really know. But I agree with you. Like I think it's totally healthy and, you know, I don't, that wouldn't bother me. Next question, this came from the Facebook group. And whoever asks this already knows the answer to this question.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Have you ever dated or you currently with a guy that is shorter than you? If so, have you ever felt insecure about it? Yes, I mean, I have always dated people like right at my height. I think hobby might be like an inch or two shorter than me, and I think the same for Joe might be right at my height, or maybe an inch or two shorter than me.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Um, Elasha's maybe an inch or two taller than me, and even just that makes me feel insecure because I feel like it makes me look so much bigger, even though I'm really not. I just look like an Amazon. So yes, I am insecure about it. I always have been. I've always been super insecure about my height.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I've always felt like I have been at a place. No friend really until I was in high school, matched my height. And so I've always felt at a place, no matter if it was friendships, you know cousins relationships all of it I hate it. I always wanted to be taller than what I am and my sister feels significantly taller than me like if you look at photos of us she just looks so much taller and just like a completely different build than I am.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And I always imbued girls that were like 5758. And I was like, maybe I'm going to grow to be that one day. And I never did. So it would be really hard for someone to be shorter than me because I'm 5.5. And half does matter. It does matter. Sometimes I'll lie and say I'm 5.5 and a half does matter. It does matter. Sometimes I'll lie and say I'm 5.5. I do have long legs, so I feel like people think that I'm taller than what I actually am.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Don't you feel like I'm really sp person? I was about to say I didn't expect you to say 5.5. I just, I guess like 5.6 maybe. Yeah. Because your legs are really long. I have really long legs, but don't you feel like I'm a small person and person? No, I guess I never thought of you... Like, I'm thinking of both of you and me, like my co-hosts,
Starting point is 01:03:12 and I guess I thought you were more... You were closer to my height, but I guess not. No, definitely not. I feel like you're so much taller than me. So I've never been with somebody that is shorter than me, have I been with somebody that's short? Yes, but I also have brothers that, I don't, well, Grayson's tall.
Starting point is 01:03:30 He's like over six foot. My dad's like five, nine, or five, 10, Kyle's five, nine, or five, 10, Chase's around that same. suburban dad was five, nine, Will's six, five. Holy fuck. Yeah. And like my preference is definitely like anywhere from, you know, like six, one, six, two to seven foot. I was watching this other podcast
Starting point is 01:03:59 and they were reading like really funny tweets. Yeah. And one of them was like, what is the most offensive thing that you've said? And one of the girls tweeted that, you're not tall enough to talk to me that way. I was fucking crying. Goodbye, that is so funny. If you're not, if you are under six foot, don't raise your voice at me. Don't raise your voice at me.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You're not tall enough to talk down on me. Oh my God. Okay, this is also from the Facebook group. Have you ever struggled with bleeding after sex? Only while pregnant, weird enough. Fair enough. Which I guess isn't actually that weird, but yeah, I've had like while I was pregnant, especially with looks, I would get super upset and anxious and nervous because I would
Starting point is 01:04:49 bleed. And you know, I had multiple miscarriages before lux. So like, I was constantly checking for blood and constantly concerned. And it wasn't just like a little bit of blood. It was always a quite a bit. So I tell way too much on this podcast, but at this point, there's no reverting back. No hold on. No, I have a short cervix, so it doesn't take much to, you know, like get up there. And sometimes it'll be like just pink, but not blood. But I wouldn't say I've struggled with bleeding after sex.
Starting point is 01:05:26 When I'm reading this, I'm like, okay, this is like making somebody bleed for like days or something. Only if it started my period. I definitely would check with your GYN for that because I don't, while I don't know that it would be like anything serious, it's definitely something worth mentioning to your provider. Coffee Combos podcast is sponsored by Better Sleep. I literally just talked about not sleeping well, and I think part of the problem is that
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Starting point is 01:07:42 Common and typically talked about. Yes, and it makes me so upset because I have always romanticized and fantasized about having siblings and this close knit family. And I look at the Kardashians and the Demilios and the Addison Ray family and all of these families that are the Richies. And I'm like, and even my cousins that are super close, they're like
Starting point is 01:08:06 my second cousins, but, but I don't look at them as my second cousins. I look at them as just first cousins. Anyway, they're super close, tight knit. And so I've always like romanticized that in my head. Like that's how all families are. But the older I get, the more I realize that less and less families are actually that close. And it makes me so sad because it's such a reality check compared to what I have always thought in my yes. And it hurts because I worry about my kids. And I know, and I think I said it before on this podcast,
Starting point is 01:08:41 like I see Isaac very much going in his own direction as he gets older. And I think the younger ones will be closer just because they have more in common, but it makes me so sad because I just think about maybe subconsciously that's why I've had so many kids is because that's what I always wanted for myself. You know, and it just, I think the family feuding and the family's not getting along is way more common than we actually know. I think that there's strife in all families. I think some families handle it better than others. And make-ups of all families are very different. You know, my dad has two kids from his first marriage and then three from his second. And I think just that makeup alone is complicated. And so, you know, some of that, I think definitely causes some conflict
Starting point is 01:09:37 just right off the bat. And then there, when you have more family members, you're talking like big families like the Kardashians, there's just so many personalities. And for my lived experience, you have five, my parents have five kids, so many different personalities. Some, some of the siblings basically live and die off of everything that our parents say. and then some of us are just rogue and have our own opinions and don't care. I'll let you guys decide who those are. And then you've got the family members who take sides and that furthers the distance. So I think it's very, very know, that that furthers the distance. So I think it's very, very complicated. I think when you're combining families, when you get married, you know, and you're trying to fold into the person you married family, and then they're trying to fold into yours,
Starting point is 01:10:36 I think that that's a complicated situation. People in general are just complicated. And so I think that when you've got a lot of opinions, then there comes problems. Agreed, but still makes me sad. I was talking to Kristen the other night, like on a late night phone conversation, and we were talking about how you always tell people that you wouldn't be in podcasting if it wasn't for me. Yeah, and I was like, It's the truth. I've never told you this, but I told Kristen I was like, well, if it wasn't for Kale, I don't think that I would feel as comfortable to be authentically myself
Starting point is 01:11:17 as I've been able to become comfortable on this podcast. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah, that's so nice. Yeah, that's so nice. No, Chris, it was like, you need to tell, tell Kail that. And I was like, yeah, at some point. You're like, when it's not awkward, I will tell her. Yeah, because Kail's the most awkward.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That is so nice. And I love to hear that. Because I, I don't know if it's true. I don't know where I even heard this. But did you ask Leah and Chelsea to podcast before? No. Oh, no. Where did I make that up? Maybe you made that up to invite them on coffee combos. No, like to be to podcast with them before you ask me. No, no, no, no. Because I was like, well, I wonder like how different it would have,
Starting point is 01:12:05 because I don't know why I thought that then. So, if you would have podcasted with them, like one of them, I wonder how, like how it would be different, you know? No, like I will and I and Will's older brother, we were all teen mom watchers like in college. Uh-huh. And I didn't have any interest in some and Will's older brother, we were all teen mom watchers like in college. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:12:26 And I didn't have any interest in some of the girl's storylines, so I would fast forward through parts and like watch yours. And then when you wrote your books, like I had both of your books. And like my story? Yeah. Oh my God. Thank you. Oh my god. I literally, I don't know why I thought that. Why
Starting point is 01:12:50 would I mean, I'm at Harvey. Yeah, I knew that. I knew you met him. Did you meet him in Nashville or Atlanta? In Atlanta because he kind of like write a book or something. Yes. So he was there for that publisher. Yeah. And so I met Harvey then, and then it kind of just like organically happened like over Twitter. So weird, that is so crazy. I had never even talked to Leah or Chelsea or anything like that before you and I started podcasting. Oh, okay, I don't, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I wonder if someone told me that or if I made that up like completely out of the blue. Okay, well that seems like something you would make up. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I truly may have. I don't know. I don't know why I thought that. Okay, people want a mental health update. Okay, well, for me, I'm taking a hit right now. I mentioned that I up to my dose to 20 milligrams taking a hit right now. I mentioned that I up to my dose to 20 milligrams a couple weeks ago and I don't know if I'm just in a funk or if it's just not working and
Starting point is 01:13:52 I need to switch meds again. The one thing I have not asked my provider is how long said antidepressants are supposed to work for because I've heard people say you know I don't know if I was supposed to be on them for this many years or, you know, things like that. And so I don't know if the one that I'm on, I'm on Lexapro. I don't know if it's like a long-term thing, a semi-long-term thing. I've been on Lexapro in general for, has it been a year? Like Lexapro because I tried Zoloft first. I feel like it's been some time. Yeah, it it been a year? Like Lexa Pro, because I tried Zoloft first. I feel like it's been some time. Yeah, it's been.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Almost a year, maybe for Lexa Pro, and it was really working, and then it stopped working. He put me on the anxiety meds, but I don't think I need that yet. I need to get my depression re-under control. So I told Kristen the other day, I said, I have to have him order the Cheeksw cheek swab because we never ended up doing the cheek swab for whatever meds would work best because the LexiPro was started working. So I was like, I don't need to
Starting point is 01:14:53 do that. But I don't feel like it's working right now. So I need to figure that out. I'm just, I'm in a weird place. I'm sleeping a lot again. Don't really wanna do anything. I always say that when I'm going through like my depression situation, I'm on my phone less, so you'll see less stories throughout my days, showing less of my face. I don't even wanna edit TikTok,
Starting point is 01:15:21 so I haven't really put any TikToks up. And I know that this could be like the ebbs and flows because antidepressants, they don't completely take depression away. They just help curb the symptoms. And so I don't know if it's just like that. So that's where I'm at. I'm hoping I come out of it pretty soon. I do have a doctor appointment in two weeks, so I'm hoping that maybe I'll have some answers and can get some tests done then. One of my favorite things that you have said through this depression journey is my Lexapro is Lexapro. I love that so much.
Starting point is 01:15:58 And I just feel like the Lexapro is not Lexapro-ing right now. No, it's not. Remember to, you gave advice to people who were going through shit and hard times, and you said just do something small. Have you been following that advice or not really? I haven't, no, I don't think I have.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I told Kristen yesterday I'm like, I need to take a 10 minute walk every day and I haven't been doing that. I did for the last like five days, I've walked everywhere, so you know, but overall in the past two, three weeks, I have not walked anywhere. I haven't really sat in the sun much, so I'm not getting, you know, good quality air and vitamin D and all of that. So I haven't. Have you like, it's a shift to like this time of the year for parents and moms in general.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I think it's just like a chaotic time of the year. And so much gets on your schedule. And you feel so overwhelmed when you see it and you're like, I've got to do all of these things. I need to be all of these places and you get overwhelmed. It's like, how am I ever going to accomplish all of these things? 100% 100% and I even thought to myself this morning because you know Creed's a horrible sleeper, I've talked about it before last night he had a really good night and he was super happy this morning and I'm still tired today like it's just weird Yeah, I definitely think just this time of the year,
Starting point is 01:17:26 like you said, is super overwhelming. And there's a lot going on. We're still in baseball. Flag football just ended. Lincoln's about to sign up for another basketball league. So it's just like a lot still, but almost like maybe once the school year itself is done, things will start to level out a little bit.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Well, because you're going through a schedule shift to like you're mentally kind of preparing for them not being in school. Yeah. And so that's really hard. And I know a lot of parents are going to relate to this whenever I say the next statement. You feel like you don't have enough hours in the day. Right. And then when you go to get in your bed, it's like you feel like you get in it to just get back out of it in such a short amount of time and then it's onto the next task. And
Starting point is 01:18:11 that is so exhausting in itself. I have been feeling that as well and I feel like also, I'm finally getting to the point. It takes me a long time to fully process things and changes and to adjust to life changes. So I am finally getting to the point of realizing that I have to adjust to what our new normal is, like I can't talk about that every day. Oh my gosh, I completely forgot it. Yeah, your mom, Julie, the whole nine. It's a lot and just going through what feels like the closure of that situation, although it's not really closure. I think it's more of like an acceptance.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Right, right, right, right. I was gonna say that. I think I'm kind of going through that. And am I allowed to ask you, are you in your siblings and like, Nanny, do you guys have like a schedule so that someone's always visiting or no? So it's hard for me because I have Jackson every other weekend. And with being so undecided on when I am going to take him to see my parents. I kind of wanted to give it until summer because that's going to be a heavy thing and being the end of the school year,
Starting point is 01:19:33 it's just not, I don't feel like as his mother it's in his best interest to do it right now, maybe to process those feelings and to ask the questions that I know that he's gonna ask after, I want him to be able to be at home with me. Okay. And so Lexington is pretty close to Nashville. It's drivable within a day so they can go and visit and then come back that same night home. It's a lot further for me to do that and I still have not been approved to be able to see Julie, which is insane.
Starting point is 01:20:09 My dad is also a decent drive and he very much wants to have visits with less people so he can focus on. Okay. Like a quality visit with one or two people versus the whole group. Quality over quantity. Right. And so yeah, I think that he's definitely prioritizing the minor children. So, you know, Grayson and Chloe, who would have been affected on an everyday basis, if that makes sense. So I do plan to try to do that over the summer.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And it just, I feel like in any situation that you go through that is traumatic, it's like there's an adrenaline there, even though it's like a negative one, but it's still like you're in the survival mode. And then it all sinks in at some point. And I think that I've made it to that point. Right. It's really sinking in. And, you know, with me taking Jackson on
Starting point is 01:21:15 trips coming up this summer, I feel like Will's taking him on trips and everything's kind of like leveling out there. And we have reached a point where like this morning he was in my kitchen after he was taking his emergency shit and about the emergency shit. We were talking about mine and Jackson's evening last night, Will was talking about going on a date and everything's just like so normal and there it seems like all of the things that I've been going through in life are hitting what feels like closure or like final phases. So that's definitely worn on me in the past couple of weeks and I just feel very overwhelmed with various different emotions. And I think that's completely fair for everything that you have going on. I don't think that that's like, would be out of the norm or, I mean, that has to be normal.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Correct. Okay. We have three foul plays. Love all your podcasts and just wanted to share my foul play. Please keep me anonymous. Duh. For our anniversary last year, my husband and I booked a night at a new beautiful hotel nearby. We wanted to let loose for the night so we decided to try some edibles. And this exact moment was where we fucked up. It gave me two and a half pieces of gummies without reading the instructions, which only calls for half for first timers. That shit hit me like a ton of bricks and had me on my ass literally.
Starting point is 01:22:44 We tried to have dinner at the restaurant downstairs, but we were both so fucked up. I ordered the steak bites, but was so disappointed because it tasted like straight sand in my mouth. I'm sure the waitress hated us because I was so high. I felt so stupid and paranoid. I wanted to finish my food because I was so hungry, but I couldn't because of the text. It finally made me gag and I had to run to the bathroom to throw up. My husband follows behind me to help. So at the same time, I'm freaking out thinking that the waitress is probably thinking
Starting point is 01:23:12 that we were running out on the tab. As I'm throwing up, I also started to pee my pants from the violent hurls. I just had a baby six months. Hurls. I just had a baby six months ago so my bladder game is weak. Once I'm done, my husband stands behind me to try to cover me and save me from the embarrassment as we wake our way up to the elevator to our room.
Starting point is 01:23:35 He turns a shower on for me and tells me to wash up while he runs back downstairs to close the bill. I could barely stand up straight to get him dressed and what's up did. I just sat there and make it in the running shower while contemplating my whole life and how I got to this moment. I don't know how I managed, but I made it to the bed and ended up falling asleep wrapped in the hotel robe. As the cherry on top, we had to be up and ready
Starting point is 01:23:57 at the ass crack of dawn the next day to catch our flight. I thought she said it was nearby. Yeah, I'm like that ain't nearby, sweetheart. I still get sick to this day at the thought of an edible and definitely need a redo on this hotel experience. Okay, I used to love smoking weed. I don't think that's a secret. It's in my book.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I used to smoke weed all the time. That being said, I didn't try an edible until I was a grown-ass adult, like, way later. Because I don't think that edibles were like a thing when I was in high school. So I don't, but edibles will put you on your fucking ass. Like, you will never, like, nothing compares to edibles, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Well, I'll just tell you, I'm not gonna tell you who did it. But I thought I was taking a CBD gummy one time. Oh, shit. And one of my siblings gave me one of these. I was not well. And I also was in the confines of my parents home. And you were probably contemplating your entire life. The thing you think of, when I wonder,
Starting point is 01:25:00 I need to know like what about THC? Does that to us? Like you'll just think about every fucking like is there aliens on the moon like there's just so many things and so many questions that you have and it's Have you ever had a lonely dinner before, or a lonely lunch where it's just you and you have to go to the bathroom? Like at a restaurant? Yeah. Like, have you ever gone to one by yourself?
Starting point is 01:25:34 Because I have and I don't mind it. I know, I wouldn't call it lonely because I don't mind it. Yeah, but it's still lonely because nobody's there with you. Oh, I guess. Like you're here on company, but nobody's there. you. Oh, I get it. You're here on company, but like nobody's there. I also go ahead.
Starting point is 01:25:47 The point of me saying that is, when you go to the bathroom and you have food there, I have always wondered and like feel paranoid that they're going to think that I'm trying to like, get a guy in a dash. Yes, or like if I have just my kids, like my older kids and I run to the bathroom, I don't want them to be like, well,
Starting point is 01:26:04 where is the till? Is the bill going to be paid? I hate that. So like if you're, and I run to the bathroom. I don't want them to be like, well, where is the till, is the bill gonna be paid? I hate that. So like, even if you're just with your partner, like one person, you guys have to take turns going to the bathroom because you don't want them to think that you're, you're dining and ditching. Yeah, for sure. It stresses me out.
Starting point is 01:26:18 But also, I wanted to say, thank you for listening to all of our podcasts. Like, I really appreciate that. The fact that you trust us enough to listen to multiple shows. A week, like he must really love the bullshit. Oh yeah, she's in it with us, you know what I mean? Okay, next foul play, I'm gonna read this one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:38 My first make out session behind a church when I was 14. Wow. I was making out with my them boyfriend on the Pebble dirt road behind the church when all of a sudden a bad-ass glove of his mucus fell into my mouth from his nose. No. I'm talking like the size of a golf ball of pure mucus. I was 14, thought he was the love of my life,
Starting point is 01:27:02 so I just spit it out and kept making out. Nope. Pretty sure that was God telling me to knock it off. What in the hell? How? How does, no. Is that like a snot ball? Like, it came out of her, like,
Starting point is 01:27:20 is that just like a glob of snot? You know, I'm thinking of like, you know when babies get real congested and all the sudden both nostrils are just dripping with like that thick green mucus when they're sick. And it just comes out of nowhere. That's what I was thinking. But like, you're making out so he probably can't breathe. So he probably trying to breathe in and out of his nose and all the sudden this glob of goo came out of his nose. And that is, I wonder, like, did she stay with him for a while?
Starting point is 01:27:47 Like, what, at what point did she realize that, like? I immediately even going to identify in this story that if this was me, I would know that they were not the love of my life before we've been starting making out when they tried to make out with me when they had some type of cold. No, he probably didn't, he wasn't think he's a 14 year old horny kid. He's not worried about
Starting point is 01:28:10 a cold. Yeah, but even when you're 14 years old, if you have a cold, why are we swapping spit? Because they're it's a 14 year old boy who is horny. They don't that's like the horny is still ever being their life. But like, why are you forning a church? Nobody said they were. They said behind a church, not their church. Feels like it was their church. Like why would they just be behind a church? Like on a pebble road. So dirt road anthem. Anyway, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:28:36 The next one. What did Jason Aldean, was that Jason Aldean that did that song? Chillin' on a dirt road. Lay back where the I'm George Jones. Okay, we never need to come out with a country song ever because I will fuck it up. I grew up in a very small town. I'm talking like everyone knew everyone and your mama knew their mama and auntie type of small town.
Starting point is 01:28:58 One day, everyone in the town gets a nude in their text from a girl I went to school with. Back then, with the flip phone with the flip phones select all was at the top when you go to send a text or a picture and she accidentally texted all her nude instead of texted all her nude instead of her boyfriend. My aunt got the picture my sister's boyfriend got the picture I got the picture I couldn't help but to think how many people were in we're now in possession
Starting point is 01:29:25 of this photo. Needless to say, she never lived it down. That's awful. And that's why. That's why you shouldn't have been sending photos when you had a flip phone and you could select all because that is too risky. I mean, today she could probably deny it was her
Starting point is 01:29:43 because it's probably so pixelated and just like low quality. She can be like, that wasn't me. I don't know. I don't know. And if everybody got it, a very small town, how many people are we talking? I mean, my very small town population for 1000 when I lived there. Could you just imagine you having a select all button
Starting point is 01:30:05 in your phone and it going to your entire contacts? No, especially with like my mom's family being super well-known where we're from. And my aunt is a doctor there, my uncle was a teacher. No. If that ever happened to me, I would never answer my phone again. Yeah, that's like the would you rather see the video of your mom having sex or her get a video of you? Her get a video of me still.
Starting point is 01:30:32 I would turn my phone off and immediately never turn it back on for the responses. You do that already. Yeah, and it's not new. So yeah. I love that. Okay, well, I'm going to go and get a manicure because my middle fingers are jacked up again. So I'm going to try to do something new. Try to decide if I'm going to take the gel off or if I'm going to get SNS or if I'm going to get acrylics, I just don't know what to do. So, gonna try to figure that out.
Starting point is 01:31:07 I'm gonna try to figure that out. You guys have not followed us on At Coffee Combos Podcast on Instagram, make sure you follow us there. If you have not subscribed to our show, you can do that on any podcast app where every video podcast and always first at PodcastMalign. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See ya!
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