Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Picking Our Ex-Husbands As Partners Again
Episode Date: March 16, 2023CC275: Kail is turning 30 again! Don't ask, that's just how it is. Lindsie is a big fan of Chili's Queso, Kail can't help wanting to pop pimples, and please send Lindsie air frying recipes.. she is fi...nally becoming an air frying girlie.Kail and Lindsie share some icks involving hygiene, defend their ongoing Amazon shopping problem, and of course answer some interesting questions from the facebook group.. Hacks to make life with kids easier? What do they still want to accomplish in their lives? And which of their exes would they pick to be their life partner? Thank you to our sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthGreen Chef: Visit GreenChef.com/convos60 and use code convos60 to get 60% off plus free shippingProgressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more!Stitch Fix: Sign up today at StitchFix.com/convos to get $20 off your first purchase
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I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you?
This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship
Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here
Here's Kale and Lindsay
Hello Lindsay and coffee combos kitty gang listeners
Good morning. How are you? I love your hat. Is that a corduroy texture? It is. I love that
I feel like I'm a hat queen. Like if I was going to
Create anything that people would be like, oh, that's her. It would be a hat a hat line
Definitely because you wear them all the time literally almost every day of my life
And I am not wearing makeup again today because I had a skin appointment this week
And I was just like, you know what? I'm just not gonna put on makeup because I had the micro needling done and
Sometimes I get like a little dry from having that done. So I'm like, I don't want to put like makeup on top of it to like dry
Me out more. So it's just kind of I'm a skin care queen again this week
And also, I don't know if you guys can see but yes, I did have my lips read on and I have to tell you
My schedule is impeccable, but my timing is not and
Had a meeting at the school for Jackson with the entire administrative staff and
His teacher and I had to go in there with busted up lips and I'm like, okay
How do I avoid actually going to this? But like I need to go to this because I don't want them to see me looking like this
Because they are gonna think that I am like a battered person
They're gonna think you're deranged deranged battered like my lips were yesterday, honey
My lips Jackson got in the car when I picked him up from school and he was like mom
Something something's going on with your lips. Like I don't know what it is
But it looks like they have bruises and I'm like and that's beauty, honey
And that's beauty is pain sometimes. That's just the way it goes. It is
I need to ask you this question and I want to know be honest like if you do it, okay
Do you use one of these things a toothbrush? No, this is a
Razor for your face. Yes, I do use that. Okay, so I posted this on Instagram
Last week and got so many mixed reviews about people saying
That you should be doing this or you shouldn't and people faking like they were like estheticians telling me what to do and shit
and
my
skincare provider
recommended these for my face because she said that if you are
Basically investing in your skin and skin care and you've got that layer of it's called vellus hair
It's like peach fuzz, right? It's essentially it's vella the official term is vellus hair, but it is like peach fuzz
Okay, when you remove that layer
Then your products seep in so much better because you're not trying to penetrate through something before getting to your skin
Yeah, no, that makes sense. Actually, I had a photographer recommend that to me a couple years ago. Really?
Yeah, it was so weird. She was like your your makeup will just go on so much smoother and things like that
But because I have PCOS and hair can be a problem
I'm almost afraid if I use it on my whole face for that reason that I'll get start to get like thicker hair or
Darker hair. So I only use it on my upper lip
Especially because the other day Elijah called me out was like don't get mad for what I'm about to say
But you kind of have a little bit of hair right here, and I was like, okay, I'll take care of that. No problem
Okay, wait on that point before we move on about about this little guy
Do you like to have a partner that will tell you like you have a booger?
You have something in your teeth like you need to shave
Um, your lip is hairy your cootie lip needs to be shaved
Like do you like that partner or do you like the partner that just lets you like ride and it bothers them?
But they don't tell you um as much as it made me uncomfortable for him to tell me I had a mustache
I was like thankful
Broke a barrier. Yeah, and like if I have a booger like that is
Number one like the worst cringiest thing that like someone could tell you I don't know why I just feel that way
But I would rather him tell me or a partner tell me then to just let it rock
You know what I mean? Like I need to know he don't care about my legs being hairy or if my cat's not shaved
But I do want you to tell me if I you know have a mustache or there's something in my teeth or yeah
I definitely want that as much as I hate it. Don't be that friend or that significant other
That just lets the person ride in public knowing that it's something that's embarrassing
But you're too embarrassed to tell them, but you're gonna allow them to be embarrassed
Mm-hmm, like just tell them just be like bro like you've got something in your teeth
I used to pick shit out of Will's teeth all the time
Alasha always has like because he wears hats all day. He wears his beanies or his
Hard hats and somebody takes them off from like the sweat and like the irritation. I'm assuming he always has pimples
I'm like, let me pop them and he hates it. He hates it, but I'm like, I'm not gonna let you walk around like that
You're not walking around with the giant fucking pimple in the middle of your forehead. Okay, some people though
I know that you're not supposed to pop it. I know, but I can't help it. I can't help it
It's something it's a it's literally something wrong with me at some type of I don't want to say disease because that's the wrong word, but
Uh, what's a mental illness? It is a mental illness like I if I see it
I'm going after it like I'm going after it hard. I have created a monster though because Lux and Creed both
Dig in all of our ears if they see dry skin if they see eye boogers if they see anything
Like Lux lives to pick out Creed's tolin
Like anything that Lux can pick at or Creed can pick at they do
That is so funny and that to me is definitely a you trait that they inherited
That's something that you probably do
I could see you waking up with your kids and like picking out there like I sleep and
They're boogers and like looking in their ears like that's definitely a Caleb Maury thing
Well, I asked them if I could please use the nose Frida on all of them. No
No, we're not using the nose Frida like that's just too much
Like I am fine with the thing that they have at the hospital like that sucker
Because you don't see it and you don't have to put your mouth on it
But the thoughts of me putting my mouth on something and then snot come
No
No, ma'am, that's not happening
I think about all these new inventions that they have for kids now and I'm like, you know what?
Thank God that they didn't have that like okay. This is another weird one
Because I was talking about there was someone yesterday about buttholes and like putting
You know like cream, you know, like if your asshole gets
Chapped or something like when you're a baby. Yeah. Yeah, you just throw some type of rash cream
Yeah, but you just like use your finger and like put it on there and then you just like wipe it on the diaper
You know and then yeah, yeah, yeah now they have fucking spatulas that like people roll around
In their diaper bags and I'm like first of all who has time to get out a spatula and put the little
Bum bum cream on there and then like smear it on there like you're a cake maker like that's not
No, absolutely not and also I use q-tips for that like we could use q-tips, but I saw so creed still in diapers
I have no intentions of potty training him until at least this summer because he can be naked
So I go to exchange like some diapers that I had for him and number one
The store took a five dollar restocking fee. You told us that about the restocking fee that pissed me off
But things that they so when I was at the the thing doing the exchange or whatever for diapers that fit him
There was this little product and I think I have a picture of it and it was like a picker
Specifically for like noses ears boogers. It wasn't a nose freedom
But I believe it was by that brand and I was low-key kind of disgusted and I don't I'm not one of those people who can
Watch like pimple popping videos or anything like that. I'll do it on my kids and stuff, but I cannot I will not do it for other people
Oh, here it is. It's called a Frida baby and it's a three-in-one nose nails and ear picker
I mean that would be something honestly that I would probably have
Do you see this little part right here this like thing? Yeah
But what do you do with that?
So you can stick it in their nose to scrape out hard boogers or no one has boogers long enough in there for them to get hard
Because my kid no
Like I still have a hard time
Blowing they always when I'm like, okay blow your nose they go and they suck in and I'm like that is literally
The bane of my existence. Okay, wait
This is another question that I have to ask you because I talked about this with someone else the other day, too
Are you the type that gets in the shower and you do all your nose picking and blowing in the shower?
Or are you gonna be the type of person that might be sitting in carpool digging boogers out of your nose?
Like which one are you?
I've never picked my nose in the shower. I always pick my nose in the shower
Really? Yeah, like any time I get in the shower and I wash my face like I
I just like dig in my nose and get like any types of like things out of my nose clean it like all out blow it
Does it hurt? No
Not at all. And then like I have the cleanest nose and then I use like a
I
Well, actually I stole it from Will a while ago. Um, it was a manscaped
Nose hair trimmer. Yeah, I used to use poppies
Clean like it's clean baby. I love it so much
I did not know that nose hairs was gonna be a thing of my like late 20s early 30s
So now that I'm about to be 31 like I regularly make sure my nose hairs are trimmed
I've even waxed my nose hairs, which I obviously told you on this podcast
But I didn't sign up for that
That's one part of life that I could do without but yeah
I use my nose hair trimmer and I don't pick my nose in carpool or in the shower
I usually do it like if I go to the bathroom
Plus also, I've been so congested the last several weeks that I just blow my nose and everything comes out
So I don't need to dig in there
You know what my favorite is is when you're wearing like a no makeup day like today
This will be my favorite day to blow my nose
Because then you can just get it all the junk out
You can just get all the junk out and you don't have to worry about like messing up your makeup on your nose and stuff
I wish there was some type of invention that you could successfully blow your nose. Maybe we should just roll around with those suckers
Just get a nose Frida and suck your own boogers up my boogers out
Wait, okay, and tree hut must have heard us talking because they sent me a little care package same and did you try this one?
The bit is that vanilla? Yeah, I didn't think I would love it, but I love it
No, I love it
But I also dropped it on my toe and my toenail is blue now like let me see if I can
This is the time of year that you lose your toenail. It is like a big toe
Right here. Oh, yeah, that vanilla scrub. Did you dirty, honey?
She she fucked you up. Okay, and then we got to get we got to get moving on
But I needed to tell you something else. I am new to the air frying game
I've never used an air fryer until I'm not big on air frying. Okay. Well, because remember we talked about back
This was like a long conversation ago when air fryers
I think it was like during like COVID or something and
Will got that air fryer and I was like everything tastes the same and it smells like burnt plastic
You know remember when we had the conversation? Yeah, okay
Well, I think it might have been the air fryer that we had
because I tried this new one that I got and
And it kind of looks like a robot and I was a little bit from QVC. It is a QVC special
It's the ninja speedy and it has like all of these different settings on it. It's amazing
You can steam vegetables in it. You can pressure cook rice in it
You can air fry in it and Kristen was telling me before we started recording that she was gonna send me all these different episodes
Like I went and got these little salmon filets. This is a will Campbell special by the way
He told me about this
they have these salmon filets that are pre seasoned with like blackened seasoning and they come in the freezer section at Sam's and
You can just like lay one out and then got a Caesar salad kit to like mix up
I'm gonna air fry that shit and eat that for dinner and it's gonna be so fucking good
I'm on the air frying game. If you don't have the ninja speedy
You need to get the ninja speedy and they do have a QVC special for the rest
Whenever I was dating Malik I had
Broken up with him towards the end of my like somewhere in the middle of my pregnancy with creed
Yeah, and so after I gave birth and I told him that I had creed or whatever a couple weeks had gone by and he's like
I'm gonna come see you guys. This is when we got back together
You know what? He got me as a gift for having a child like you know how they have like a push present even though
He wasn't the dad. He got me a fucking air fryer
Wait
I love a practical gift though
Like I love a practical one like if you're gonna show up with like
A spatula for my kids but a hole that you know that I'm not gonna use like I would much prefer the air fryer
Yeah, I still have it. Um, do you use it?
Um, I don't I'm not a super air fryer girly
I need maybe need to try a different air fryer because I don't really like the way that the food tastes in this particular air fryer, although
I did recently use it to to reheat fries because fries are really iffy and it did do a good job on the fry
So wait this weekend. I am going to just be an air frying queen
So like I'm I'm gonna try to do everything on the weekend and just the air fryer
So I'll let you know if it turns out like what turns out good and what doesn't turn out
Yeah, take notes. Um and help me out help a girl out because I know an air fryer is super helpful. Um
It's quicker for like the kids and stuff
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P-s so we need to tell everybody that when they hear this episode
You're actually going to be in Thailand like
You might be at the part of your trip where women are shooting ping pong balls out of their coochies
Yes, and it's gonna be your fucking birthday. Happy 31st birthday. No, it's 32 point
It's like 30.2
You know what he means like the second go around because I'm redoing my 30th day hit
Depression and everything else. So I'm turning 30 again
But yes, I will be in Thailand when this episode airs and I will be absolutely going to a ping pong show
And I can't fucking wait, but I need to tell you this
Okay, um
Two weeks ago on the podcast we talked about it might have been last week. We talked about how
Food is not as fresh in a to-go order
So I texted the group chat because I had I know you did a wild hair up my ass went up north got chilis
I also took out money out of my emergency savings fund to buy something that we will talk about later on
Um
And so I get chilis to go and when I first got the order
I was like what the fuck is this like in my I didn't say that but in my head
I'm like this is not what I ordered
I was like, I'm not the type to complain so fucking I'm gonna eat it anyway
Turns out it is exactly what I ordered, but it was like a different it was almost like a different presentation and it was not soggy
Um, everything was super hot super fresh like I
Literally could not believe it and I was like if all chilis do this for their to-go orders like other restaurants need to take
Notes because it was fresh. It was crispy. Everything was separated too
So if it had sauce they separated the sauce from like the item so that it wouldn't make it soggy
Um, and I was able to bring home a lot of the stuff to eat
Because I ate some of it in the car obviously, but once I got home and it was still fresh
So I just wanted to say shout out to chilis for that in newark
Great job on your to-go order. It was fresh not soggy and I will be ordering takeout from them again
I'm gonna say chilis is one of my favorite
chain restaurants like I
Have always been a big chilis fan. My dad and I used to hit up chilis all the fucking time when I was in high school
and we would go and get that um
queso they had um, it has like
Meat and it's like a bean type queso. It's I think it's like southwest queso or something like that. It's a little bit different
I've always thought that chilis has the best chips. They're always fresh
Um, and they have the best chocolate molten
Lava cake and it has like that hard chocolate on the top and when you like crack it with your spoon
And then the shit just like drips out
It's like that's what I'm living for. I love
chilis so much, um
I will say
a place it separates out their stuff is like chinese or
um
Sushi or whatever and it's still not the same even separated
Hmm. That's a good point. I didn't think about that and then you get like your
Entree part with like your meat and whatever it still does not taste the same as if you were
Eating that at the restaurant on their right and they're definitely significantly smaller portions and also kristin brought up a good point
We were talking on the phone
The other day and she was talking about how because she loves salads and i'm always like getting salad when we go out to eat
Um, but she said that when she orders salads
She's paying the same amount that she would inside the restaurant
For one a smaller portion and two she has to build her own salad
But she's paying the same exact amount
Well, and i'm like not for nothing, but like that's a really good fucking point like you're paying the exact same price
So i need to know for anybody who works in the restaurant industry. Why is that?
Why do you get a smaller portion when it's to go order?
And why are we paying the same price for a smaller portion and have to build their own stuff?
So i guess they figure that
They're here's my theory on that
It's more
Inconvenient and they're spending money on like packaging for you to leave with it then
You would just be using something reusable inside the place and also a server is not getting paid a tip
Oh, we tip on her to go orders christin and i both do yeah, but most people don't
I think most people don't
So i'm just wondering if there's like some factors in there and then i also need to tell you
About this time a couple of weeks ago that i ordered sushi sushi for jackson and i
And do you know that they tried to charge me for a separate container for like separate sushi rolls?
I'm sorry, what?
So you know how sometimes when you get sushi and you order multiple rolls
They'll put them like all in the same
If it fits like m1 sushi container, they'll put them all like in that one
Yeah, i've had like two rolls in one container. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, I don't want my rolls touching and how do you know that the same person's eating those rolls?
Like you don't so if i'm ordering let's say like five rolls
And it comes in two
packages
First of all, I want to know exactly like what roles they are
So that i'm not trying to play like the guessing game because then that means that i have to eat one of each thing to figure out
What it actually even is
Two
What if someone just wants to eat out of the container and jackson wants to eat out of the container and i want to eat out of the container
We both can't so i was like let
Let me get it like all separated out. Can you put this roll like in one thing and then these rolls in another?
They were like well that will be a two dollar up charge for that
And i'm like, okay, well then just put them in the same thing because i'm not paying two dollars
for some flimsy ass like
little thing
Wait, I didn't I hadn't I got sushi last night and they put both my rolls on the same plate
No, I don't like that
But that is a good point because I mean even for people who
Have
What if someone had an allergy?
Well an allergy a sensory situation. I know isaac my you know my son
He does not like any of his food to touch
He will not eat something if it touches something else even if
The things go together. So like hibachi and stuff like he
I brought him home
Take out but they put it in separate compartments. Yep, um, which I think they already had those so I didn't have to ask for it
But like
No, I could see what you mean like I agree. I think I agree with you. Why you don't you can't assume that the sushi
Is going to be eaten by the same person or
well
Whatever it's frustrating, but also we are a divided plate family
Big on the divided plate. It's like
Absolutely love it. Don't want my shit touching you and I've talked about this before about Thanksgiving
You letting all your shit roll together like it might be going to the same place. That's the argument that most people have
But it's not going down all together. Right. So no, you're wrong
on that
Um, yeah outside of that, um
We've got q&a. We've got a lot of shit to go through
um
I didn't want to give you just like one little brief update that we didn't get to cover on last week's episode
um about the
note that was found
Brian Laundrie's note that was found in that backpack that I was talking about
And I just feel like this family is so full of shit. Like am I insensitive for saying that?
No, I they are absolutely full of shit. They're so
Full of shit
So this article says Brian Laundrie's mother explains burn after reading letters salt and gabby potito lawsuit
Roberta Laundrie is speaking out for the first time about a letter that she wrote to her son Brian Laundrie that she claims has
Nothing to do with gabby potito
But rather is a quirky letter that she wrote to help repair their relationship
Her attorneys filed a motion for a protective order
On monday seeking to block attempts by potito's parents to make the burn after reading
Letter written to Brian Laundrie admissible as evidence in the upcoming civil trial between the two families
um
The potito family says that the letter
Makes references to a shovel bearing a body and helping Brian get out of prison
Do I think that there are situations?
That
Something could just be like a coincidence
Yes, but in this case
No, because there have been too many if you just remember like a couple of like different things
He went I talked about him going missing and then being picked up by those hitch hikers
and he was like plain and
Didn't look like he had it looked like he had been like freshly showered and
Wouldn't have like really been missing so
People were speculating that he could have gone back to his parents
So there was that and then I don't know if you remember when they were trying to locate him with that campground and the mom
Like signing up for a spot at the campsite remember that? Yes. I do remember that
Um, there's just like been too many connections with the mother that causes
Me to raise my eyebrows about it. Um
She says that she does not know the exact date that she wrote the letter
But she does know that she wrote it and gave it to brian and gabby before they left florida for new york
Which was on june 2nd 2021
Um, she said that she and brian cheered a love for books such as their runaway bunny and little bear
She claims one such book burn after writing was often the subject joke between her brian and gabby
And the reason that she wrote the burn after reading on the envelope
That was the reason why she wrote that on the envelope that was
for her son, um, she said that she was trying to to connect with brian on
Repairing their relationship as he was planning to leave home and hope that the letter would remind him how much that she loved him
I just what was exactly on the note? It, um
So we can post a copy of the note
It's really really long. So I don't want to get into reading it
But essentially there were just references regarding
a shovel, um
Bearing a body and how to get out how she would be helping him get out of prison
um, I just don't see although
They could have
Had interest in same type of literature
Um
Could have too much quirky sense of humor how much of a coincidence. Yeah, like there's certain
There's some things that are like too much of a coincidence. Yeah, and I don't believe her in this and in the event that it was
um
Written ahead of you know them leaving to go to new york
I honestly don't believe that but let's just say that it was
Why are you fighting so hard to have it not brought into evidence in court then?
Right, like if you can prove that it came from your love of this other book and whatever
Why not just allow it? But I do have a copy of the letter because it was um
Filed in court so they did release that publicly
So I'll make sure when this episode airs that that gets posted for anybody who has interest in reading it
Um, I just frankly think that this family is full of shit. So yeah, they're definitely full of shit
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One question on the q&a
Someone asked
Well requested we need hot mom shower products from both girls. So I would be happy
To share those um, I feel like I've over shared them and it's so weird because I don't know if people like don't
If everybody just like doesn't regularly see stories or something
But I get the same request like over and over again like yeah post this link. Can you post that link? Yeah
Do you do that too?
Yeah, I get them all the time and I sometimes I get frustrated
But I have to remember that like people that I see on social media like I don't always see your stories
so
Sometimes I I don't see your stories and like I'd regularly look at like yours. Um
Chelsea's Kristen Kristen never really posts, but um
I'm trying to think like who else I post and like sometimes I just don't
I miss them like I don't know like what's going on or I don't see a post and so
See I go to your page every day and just look at yours kind of like interested in what's going on
So I
It's hard because even even though I have like the link in my bio that has everything that I could have possibly ever linked in my life
And I have my highlights that have like anything that I link. Yep. No offense to anyone that's listening
I'm not trying to be rude. This is not me being like an asshole
I'm just saying like check my links before you ask because they're most likely linked somewhere already on my page
And I don't want to be an asshole, but like I can't mess. I can't get to everybody's messages
So yes, I do agree with you. I feel like I've linked top mom products in my shower already
I even we did a ticked I did a tick talk back when they asked like remember months ago
So I'll reshare that one
But I do I have different products in my shower now than I do that I did from that tick talk
So I'll post that I'll repost that tick talk and then I'll also
Do like a new one with my new shower stuff because I regularly switch out my products. I have become a big
product trying junkie
yes, it's horrible and
To the blessing it occurs that like I will try something
And if I hate it, I will give it like one second try and if I hate it at that point
It's just going in the trash. So I do feel like I'm kind of a reputable
Source her hot mom products because I've tried the shit and if I don't like it
You're not going to hear about it because I'm not going to talk about it
You're funny because I'm the opposite. So if I don't like something because I spent money on it
I'll just use it anyway. No, um until it's all the way gone also
Chris and I were talking yesterday about my amazon problem
I have a very big amazon problem and I order from amazon probably 25 days out of 30 days in a month
and um
She was like kale. That's not normal like that's absolutely not normal
But my thought process is if I can get it from amazon, this is what alexa said too
If we can get it on amazon, we're not going to the store
But she was like lindsay doesn't do that and I'm like, oh, okay. Well, I order from amazon
On at least 25 times a month. I don't think I'm ordering from amazon 25 times a month
But I feel like I am a spurtsy amazon order
So like I'll get on there
And I think the more accustomed you become to being able to do it and don't have that inconvenience of going to the store
Once you like start regularly doing it
It becomes more of a habit to do it because you're always checking there first before you're going somewhere to get it
So like for example, I put together or have started to put together jackson's easter basket
And I went on amazon and there's like certain things that I need to go to the store to like
Specifically just like see with my eyeballs to see if it's like aesthetically pleasing for my easter basket
And I'll get into that in a second
Um, but then there's like certain staples and I'm like I can just like amazon this shit and it'll be great
Um, I have had quite a few amazon purchases and probably like the last two days
Because I also got into doing like this free people dupes and I wanted to like try them
Oh, can you also share those with me because I love free people, but they're so fucking expensive
Well, I got a couple things that I'm going to share when this episode airs
It'll be the same week that I'm going to share the stuff, but I'll send you the links to stuff because
they legitimately are
Dupes and I'm kind of like in this phase where I used to be like more of a
brand snob
But now I'm like if amazon has it and it's a dupe
I don't really care because I'm spending a fraction of the cost and I'm probably not gonna wear it for as long as what
It would have justified the spend
Yeah, you know
So I'm like I'm gonna get a good season out of it and if I get a good season out of it
And it's like ratty as hell and like pilly and like whatever
I don't really care because like I got good use out of it. I wanted to buy
This neon balenciaga shirt back before the scandal. Yeah way before the scandal
and it was like
$700 and I was like the fact that if I were to spend this money on this fucking shirt
It's so it's not a like
A staple piece or like a neutral piece that could go with like a ton of things. It was a very specific neon jersey type of
Brand shirt and I was like, I ultimately didn't get it. So christin, you should be proud of me. I should get coins for that
um
Probably not after what I bought. Yes the other day. Um
I didn't I decided not to get it because I was like I would be able to wear this once on instagram
And then I can't ever wear it again. Um
Yeah, I've started to refrain from buying
Stuff like that and I think that that's when my neutral girl
Vibes like started taking place
I became very
and it kind of started with like
My changing in my hair and then be more comfortable not wearing makeup
And then it just kind of like all spiraled from there and now most everything that I have
Like do I have some pieces that are like more colorful pieces? Yes. I've tried to like incorporate that
I was talking about on the southern tee that at one point I went into my closet and realized that everything was black
And I'm like, wow, I really look like I'm going to your funeral every day
So I need to like spice the shit up
um
but most of all of my stuff is
like neutrals and
I've also started wearing neutrals like other than black. Um
neutrals
I have my office is now pink like i'm trying to get out of my comfort zone and I think
I don't know for sure if this is a coincidence or if it's true, but I really think just
I'm are only 31, but like
I don't give a single fuck if someone doesn't like what I'm wearing
I'm not going to wear black because I'm comfortable and everyone I look thin to other people. I don't care
Um, I'm wearing whatever is comfortable. Whatever I like
I'm buying pieces that are staples that are neutrals that I can kind of wear with any color
um
I want to wear
Just stuff that feels good and I don't want to wear black all the time. So I've even gotten
I don't know if you're like this, but um
I'm kind of sounds like it. Do you like to buy pieces that
You can kind of like mix and match and make it look different with something else. Yes, like I'm very into that
um
And that's new for me because before I I wouldn't do that
but now I'm like I want to wear stuff that I can wear
several different ways with several different things and
you know, just like you kind of said about like
Getting a ton of use out of it for a fraction of like a brand name price. Like I just love that
So, I mean even this is neutral. I have this in three colors. Um
Also, my one of my girlfriends was telling me that she doesn't
She doesn't dry put a lot of dry um a lot of her things in the dryer because they'll pill and stuff
So especially if you're buying things from like amazon or she in some sometimes not all the time
They're not as great of quality
So they last longer when you don't put them in the dryer and I have always put them in the dryer
So I'm going to start not putting them in the dryer
Yeah, I mean, I think then you have to invest in like a drying rack or if you have um
A closet that's like big enough to have like a drying section because I have a drying section in my closet
I saw that on fucking amazon yesterday. It was like this like drying rack that like pushes up against the wall
And then you can pull it out when you use it. Yeah, it's so cool
Um, but back to my Easter basket thing because I was talking about it in the kitty gang for just like recommendations or
You know like Easter stuff
Um, when I was growing up when my dad started dating Julie
She always would do these like extravagant Easter baskets for us and it would it felt like Christmas
And it was like so special
To me and I feel like now I do it for Jackson and
I just like love like a pretty Easter basket. I don't know what it is. Do you do baskets for your kids?
No, you guys don't celebrate Easter
I didn't I completely forgot about Easter until you said that you were preparing
For your for Easter basket like that's so funny to me. He has risen ma'am. Yes, like what does that mean?
Well, it's religious and we don't really get into that on this podcast. So, you know
But yes, I think that you should you should really um take some time researching Easter. Um,
And I'll do that while I'm in Thailand. I'll do it at one of the temples that I go visit Buddha
Yeah, you should yeah, um, no, I will though. I seriously will I'm gonna move on from the religious topic
um because
We need to talk about our biggest ics and relationships and I have some written down
I did
Relationship ics on the southern tea a couple of weeks ago
And I was literally just like howling because I feel like I have so many of them that I've kind of realized that I
Just probably don't need to be in relationship at this point
Um, let's hear some of your ics. You want to hear mine? Yes
um
Someone else existing in my existence
Someone else existing or breathing in my space is an ick like why are you here like, um
Okay, one of my go ahead. I'm gonna tell you this one because you're going to very much relate to this
And I know it's probably icky to you too, but maybe less icky because I'm just not a good share
I've never been a good share. I don't share men. I don't share
Like I don't really like to share friends that much. I don't like to share like I don't like to share anything
um
When you have your own we're going to call it an establishment like your place
I don't like someone coming in my place
and fucking up my shit
I'm like you's in my shit. Yeah
Like use just what I tell you to use like you
This is not your house
Well, that's like I tell my kids when they have friends come over
Especially lux lux has done this more than any of my other kids, but he'll be like he'll find out someone's coming over and he'll be like
So and so can't play with this
So and so can't play with that and I'm like, okay
Then make a section of designated toys that they can play with. Yeah
So similarly to what you just said in my guest bathroom
I have all the things that people could need
You don't have to you should not have to ask me for any of the stuff that I use
You shouldn't have to ask me for my moisturizer my toothpicks my toothpaste my toothbrushes anything that you need brushes
I have rubber bands that like for braids for the kids. Um, I have kids mouthwash adult mouthwash
I have literally anything and everything that somebody could need
In the guest bathroom. That is what you use. Don't ask me to use my shit
And if anybody is going to be a guest
In my house
If it's not in there to your point, then you should have fucking brought it. Don't ask me
I'm the worst though because I'm like, yeah, just go use what I say this on the podcast
But like in real life. I'm like, yeah, it's fine. Use whatever for my bathroom. I don't care
Wait, I was talking about this in therapy yesterday about boundaries and my therapist and this could this could be
applicable or applicable however we say it
um to
any
Like friend relationship
kids
We have said boundaries
But then we get pissed off when someone doesn't adhere to them, but we allow them to
Cross them. Yes, you know, it's like I'm gonna bitch if you if you literally are in my bathroom
And you're trying to use all of my shit and I was like, yeah, just like grab it or whatever
But then I'm in a bitch about it. It's like why the fuck did I even tell you to grab it like no actually don't
No, actually, no, actually don't I
Sometimes I also have such an oversupply of stuff in my bathroom that I'm like
I actually sometimes want people to use it because like I said, I buy products and if I don't like them
Um, I would rather have like other people use them and help me use them up or I'll give them to my friends and stuff
So in that aspect, I'm like, yeah, do it. I don't care. Um
But like my toothpaste in my bathroom is my toothpaste my mouthwash is my mouthwash like
Elijah better not ask me for it. Like you don't even ask
Another thing that is a staple in our house right now is meal kits and green chef is the number one meal kit for eating well
We use these meal kits. I think I've said I think I said this last week, but especially on sport nights
When we have practice and things like that because it's just so hard to
Go to the grocery store wait in line. Then you got to prep everything the good thing about green chef meal kits
Is that it already comes with all the needed ingredients pre-prepped already so that you don't have to do any of that extra stuff
And then they also have options for every single lifestyle. So they have keto vegan vegetarian fast and fit Mediterranean and gluten free options
So I love that you can always mix it up. You never have to stick with the same lifestyle option
And they have recipes that feature premium protein seasonal organic produce and sustainably sourced seafood
They also um have recipes that you can cook. I think like in less than 25 minutes
Which is always like a go-to for me one of them that I selected this past week was the chicken with creamy mushroom sauce
It's 25 minutes jasmine rice kale walnuts. So good. And then I'm a big salmon fan
Um, it was a 30 minute recipe and it's a pecan crusted sockeye salmon with
Creamy kale um and roasted carrots. So those are two that I got last week
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Um, another one of my ics is no one cleans my kitchen better than I clean my kitchen. So like don't even try
Actually, don't even cook at my kitchen
Lux has been having this thing where he's been cleaning his bathroom
Um, he loves cleaning his bathroom with like the Clorox wipes and Clorox yesterday before bed he tried to clean his bathroom
And I'm like, can you stop spraying Clorox everywhere? You're gonna get it on your pajamas like knock it off
Yeah, um, nobody can clean his bathroom like he can clean his bathroom. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean I
Honestly, I very much relate to Lux in that regard and I'm just like
Let me do it like I don't want someone folding my laundry like if you think you're helping me you're actually disturbing me
Okay, like I don't need someone to fold my laundry. I don't need someone to make my bed for me. I don't want people using my shit
Um, I realize that this has become like my safe place
Okay, and I don't want people disturbing my fucking safe place
And I think that's fair. I think that's very fair. I think that's um, I think a lot of people probably share that same
Those same feelings. Yeah with that you do that you have I don't have all of the same feelings because I
I think I don't know I don't know if it's people pleasing or I just don't I don't know
Give me some of your Ix
Ix um, well I have a rule at my house now where if you come home in your work clothes and you stay in your work clothes
That means that you want to continue working so I'm gonna give you a list to do
Oh, I love that one will used to do that when he came home from Sprint and I was like get those fucking clothes off
Like what about Sprint anymore?
So literally if Elijah because Elijah will come home and like linger in his work clothes that have concrete all over them
And I'm like oh so you want you want to keep working because you're still in your work clothes
So I'll have him hang curtains. I'll have him do you know things in the garage so things like that's not really an ick but it's like
Something that I'm like because he'll sit on the couch with his dirty clothes and I'm like please don't do that
No, I used to have this
It was a big marriage fight that we would have all the time and I'm like you come in from outside
You straight up smell like outside like stop laying on the linens like you're
Not the linens
You're laying on that fabric that's absorbing this
One of my biggest icks is that Elijah if you're listening
He will take a shower and then when he gets out he leaves the shower door open
Why? Why are you leaving the shower door open? Close the shower door
Yeah
It could break one of our cats one of our animals I could stub my foot on it run into it because I don't see it
You know what I mean like there's just so many and none of those things have ever actually happened
But like it could happen so close the fucking door
Is your what do they call that suction like this thing is it like suction suction dick is it on the door
Could you imagine like with it being like flung open and then just like the dick
It's just like wobbles like wobbling around like the cat's trying to get to it
Yeah
Like I can't oh okay another one hygiene like I if I'm spending my time and my money and my efforts on
You know making sure that I am thoroughly clean like I'm going and getting my
Hustlips ripped once a month like to make sure that I'm clean downstairs like I'm going to get my nails done
My toenails are always cut like don't be crusty
When I'm really putting Elijah on blast today poor thing
When I first met Elijah he used to have long nails and it would really gross me out but he he works in concrete
And he said he would use them a lot like with working stuff and I said I am sorry but this is a deal breaker for me
So since we met he's been cutting his nails regularly
Like I cannot do long male long nails on met like long natural nails with like
No
Or concrete or any kind of like no because then he also cooks and I don't want somebody with long nails with you know
Particles under them like
Yeah so he cuts his nails regularly and I guess you know that saying if they wanted to they would and he does
Yeah okay well I'm really weird about Jackson with like his nails and toenails
Me too
I can't I'm like you know because I looked at him when I was helping him get his socks and shoes on this morning
Because he's just he was in a lazy mood so I was like okay we like we literally have to speed up we're about to be late
And I was like unfortunately for you because you were being sorry as hell this morning laying around
I was the recipient of being able to help put on socks and shoes and I noticed that your toenails need to be cut
So immediately prepare yourself when you get home
And you get ready to take a shower that I will be clipping those dogs because they're barking
I am the worst because this is so I don't know if other moms do this
I'm very weird about my kids ears and their nose and their nails like I will check
I check their ears I check their nose I check everything I check their nails
You're cleaning your fucking ears every time you shower you need to be cleaning your ears
Every time you shower or every time you need your nails clip you need to clip them after the shower
They're I don't have to like I don't know what it is but I don't want my kids to be the Sonati kids
Or the kids with earwax or the kids with like boogers or shit in their teeth
When they don't I have I have toothbrushes and toothpaste in the car
Because if you forgot to brush your teeth before we left you're brushing them before we go to school
I don't care you're gonna brush them in the fucking car and you're gonna spit outside I don't give a damn
Okay so this is this is funny growing up I've always been like a person that everything has its own place
Like you don't put things where they don't belong but my dad raised me that way
Julie however is the most disorganized fucking person that you will ever meet in your entire life
Maybe that's why her and I would get along because I'm also that way
And like you might find toothbrushes in the kitchen sink where like utensils belong
Or like you might I used to tell her if I open up this kitchen drawer and I find a pair of your panties like that's a wrap
Like no that that is not where this this goes and she would put Chase in Savannah's toothbrush and toothpaste
In a drawer in the kitchen and they would come downstairs eat breakfast and then she would make them brush their teeth
In the kitchen with your toothbrush and their toothpaste and my dad would always it would be like a big argument in our house
Of like why the fuck am I opening this drawer and seeing like kids toothpaste and gunk and whatever in the fucking kitchen
And like why are they spitting in the kitchen sink it just grows and I feel like that's something that you would do
Yes because I would rather make sure their teeth are brushed and be disorganized then for them to go to school and have not brushed their teeth
No it's just called rules and it's like go to the fucking bathroom and brush your teeth and like we're not leaving so if you're tardy bro that's on you
Because you're brushing your teeth
This is this reminds me and I didn't anticipate talking about this but I probably have it saved somewhere so I will if I do have it saved
I'll I'll send it or post it this mom was talking about hacks that make her life easier
She was talking about like she has six children these are things that make her life easier and one of them was so toothbrushes in the kitchen to me that makes sense
That makes sense to me for you you're like fuck no go upstairs
She said that they she doesn't do towels in the house she only does the terry cloth robes and each kid has their own color so that she's not washing 100 towels and everyone knows their designated color
All swimsuit stuff like for multiple children obviously you don't have this problem go in the same drawer in the house like in a location in the house
Because she never wants to hear somebody one of their kids say that they can't find their bathing suit they can't find this they can't find that it's all in a central location
Whether it be her room or a living room drawer whatever that is where all the bathing suits for everybody go and there's a couple other things
I love the ideas but that sounds very much like dysfunctional survival mode mom
And that is not me like I am not bending on certain things because everything has a place that it's supposed to go
For example another QVC purchase that I purchased for my garage is a bin and Jackson's like oh what's going in that bin
And I'm like I don't know yet I haven't decided I just ordered it because it was like kind of like chic looking and would look nice in the garage or like on the back porch
But maybe I'll put balls in it maybe I'll whatever and I was thinking like that would probably be great to put like towels and like swimsuits
So if he was just like running in and like hey mom I want to like go to the pool real quick he could just grab it from there not have to go upstairs
But I would lose sleep over that like knowing that there were towels like in my garage even in a bin knowing that they could like be getting dusty and particles on them
No so for those reasons absolutely those reasons alone absolutely not
Okay next question wow this is gonna probably cause clickbait but cool
Thanks Kristin you're getting married but you can only choose from your exes who your lifelong partner is going to be who do you choose
Okay we can only choose from our exes
Yeah you can only choose from your exes
Um okay
How do you know who you're choosing
I don't know who I'm choosing you might know before I do who whisper it
Jose Miraquin
Why? That was the first person that came to my mind but not because I love him but because it would be the most
Functional
Functional and least chaotic there might be a lot of animosity and some resentment because we don't know how to like I know now how to handle things and he doesn't
Um in my in my opinion but um you know that would be like the most functional
I can see the articles right now of coffee combos host say that they would be with their ex husbands again
Because you also would choose your ex-husband
I would um mainly because we even though we dysfunctionally sometimes did 12 years of life together we still did 12 years of life together
So it would be like the most familiar and we learned how to run away from each other
So I still like coexist and it would be functional because we co-parent functionally
And we also just know what to expect in dealing with that person so like now I feel like enough time has passed that I have done enough
Enough of my own self growth that I would know how to not react to certain things that I used to react to
Same so I would be able to be a lot more versatile I don't think versatile is the right word I would be more not go with the flow either
But like I would be able to handle things in a much healthier way
Yep not react to certain things um divide and conquer was a big thing for us that was something that we did um so yeah I agree
Yeah I um can also see right now we should pitch a show um where we try to live with our ex-husbands for like a week
Imagine
Could you imagine like what that would be like?
No
They would either like us more or hate us more
I would probably end up on a on the show on ID channel somewhere
You would be on no I was thinking America's most wanted
That's what I was thinking
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Okay, what is one thing that you would love to achieve in your life personal or business
I want to go to law school so bad
That is also has always been a dream of mine even before legally blonde and Elwoods was like popular I have always wanted to do that thought that I would until it got time to do it
And then I kind of was like you know what I guess I'm going to get married because I'm in love and I'm going to have a kid because I'm in love and I just like one of many
And then I had all of that and then got on reality TV and now I'm 33 years old and I feel like I have successes that I'm proud of
But the same time I feel like I missed out on something that like I really wanted to do for my whole life
I agree. The more time goes on the more I want to go to law school. Also the more time goes on the more I think that it's possible
I think it's possible if both of us wanted to do it we could do it and you know what's funny is I said that to the boys the other day and I think it was Lincoln was it Lincoln or Isaac
One of them said to me but you're about to be 31 and I looked at him and I said there are people who are 50 years old that go back to college
I said you don't ever have to stop going to college if you don't want to or you can never stop educating yourself if you don't want to and you can go back to college at any time
And I don't think they realized that I think they thought that you have to go to college right after high school. Yeah I mean on that topic I have a whole big opinion about this
If you don't know what you want to do coming out of high school I feel like everybody should just get their business degree
Or just not go until you know for sure what you want to do because I hate seeing people going to school getting a degree for something that is not usable in a way that they end up doing something else
Right
You know like there's certain specific degrees that's like that doesn't really apply like you would have been much better off if you would have known what you were going to end up doing just getting a business degree
Right one of my baby dads has a bachelor's degree in kinesiology
What the fuck's up
I always thought kinesiology was like physical therapy type of stuff but I think his specific degree he has to correct me if I'm wrong if anyone's listening and graduated from anywhere in Delaware that does kinesiology
I'm pretty sure in order for him to actually use his degree in his field he would have to go get a masters to actually do kinesiology and I don't actually I thought it was like physical therapy but I don't actually know what it is like I have no idea
So like something like that is like you can't use that as as widely in for as many things as like I could use my communications degree
I could use my communications degree and go do a ton of different things whether it's PR you know radio TV film you know I can use it for I use it every day podcasting you know like networking and getting to know people from podcast one things like that like
I let me look up what kinesiology even is because I don't he can't he doesn't use it
One thing that I would like to achieve is and this is going to probably sound small to some people
But I want to be held accountable by this community by you and also my therapist is holding me accountable is not just saying my boundaries but adhering to them and enforcing them
That's definitely something that I want to do too
Because I can say all the things in the world that I have a boundary I have this I have that but if I'm not making people stick to those or what is it called like adhere to what my boundaries are and I'm not calling them out on it
or I'm allowing it then it's not really a boundary
Right right and can't really complain like at some point you have to acknowledge that okay I'm not I'm not being solution oriented I'm not doing something that would change the complaint you know what I mean
So kinesiology it says the purpose kinesiologist study the bio biomechanical processes of the body exploring how managing those processes can contribute to human health
They prescribe exercise related practices as medicine for their clients so it's essentially holders of a kinesiology degree can become athletic trainers strength and conditioning coaches
They're great for students who want to work in the medical field or become physical therapists so but so he can't as far as I know I don't think he can I mean he might be able to use a bachelor's degree but he's not he's not
That's just an example of what I'm talking about like you would just be better off if you are for sure you're not dedicated and doing what you're going to school for then you should just get a general business degree
Yeah I agree
Okay next question do you make the boys their lunches and can you make some reels with ideas if so also was just talking about this with one of my friends the other day about how the kids either love school lunch or they hate school lunch
Or they're a flip flopper like Jackson will get tired of getting the same thing in his lunchbox so then he'll say oh I want school lunch but the problem is is he'll get school lunch and he doesn't eat it
So I'm like I want to make sure that you're getting something that you're actually eating and I lied to Jackson and told him that I have a spy in the lunch room that watches him throw away his food
And told him about how wasteful it is and like how he should feel so fortunate that he even has lunch and you know like throwing away food is just like a disgrace and like you should not do that you should eat
And now he's very good about telling me now that I have the air fryer I can make him some little chicken nuggets in the morning and put him in there
Yeah I have definitely packed chicken nuggets for the kids and put him in like a hot thing. Lux is a flip flopper he has recently told me he's back on packing lunches because he doesn't eat the school lunches
And he's been telling me that he won't eat them so I've been packing his lunch he specifically asks for a Wawa sandwich or if I make it for him he wants a turkey and cheese with mayo
Lincoln has always been like a he wants school lunch he doesn't care
Isaac if he wants to pack his lunch he packs his own lunch I used to pack it for him but now he's old enough that he likes to pack his own stuff and then sometimes he does by lunch as well
I don't necessarily have any good ideas for lunches that I can make reels with but if I do think of any I will do a reel
I literally laugh so hard when I go on and see like the bento box moms
I do have bento boxes do we use them absolutely the fuck not
No no no but it's so funny it's like you see these bento box moms and it's like they're like rolling out sushi and they're like cutting up all these vegetables and shit
And I'm like no my kids not literally just got blue whatever flavor talkies and peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a pack of pudding and an applesauce squeeze pack and a Capri Sun
Like that's what was in my kids lunchbox I will say one of the worst things to do is to convince yourself that you're going to have time to do all of that in the morning before school
Do it the night before always do it the night before and always put it in the refrigerator even if you don't want to do it the night before I can promise you you want to do it less in the morning before you're walking out the door
100% I can because I'm not I will at some point I will be one of those moms that wakes up significantly like at least an hour before my kids wake up at one point at some point I will be that mom
But right now I'm not and so I have absolutely pure chaos in the mornings and I will not be packing lunches in the mornings excuse me or doing any of that crazy stuff in the morning I will always be doing that night before
Okay, I need a couple of rapid fire questions answered by you. What is the most important lessons that you feel like that you have learned in your 31 years on this earth?
Everything that I'm about to say is going to be cliche but it is so fucking true is that what people do has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them and what they're going through.
Same thing about their thoughts and what they say it's it's it's a reflection of them it's not a reflection of you I don't care how awful of a person you are to somebody.
I mean that might have something to do with it but you get what I'm saying like at the end of the day that is what they have going on.
I'm still struggling with keeping up with the Joneses I'm struggling with that a lot.
I don't think that I fully learned that yet.
You know, when we all die no one is going to remember me for the things that I have or you know so and so had this but kale didn't people aren't going to think like that and I don't think that people think like that now.
And I think lastly is that I truly am my worst critic so I should stop listening to the negative things that people say to me because at the end of the day, I'm harder on me and I've been through more than people can even imagine.
So like, why am I listening to these other people when I'm harder on myself I don't need to hear it from someone else.
I was just about to say that the next statement that I'm going to say applies to the last two things that you said keeping up with the Joneses and being hard on yourself.
I think a part of the keeping up with the Joneses is it is toxic if not controlled the competition with yourself.
I don't compete with anybody. I compete with me and that can be a dangerous game sometimes because I know what my abilities are.
And I know that I have big goals and the competition with myself sometimes can truly be more toxic than competing with someone else or something else that I'm seeing.
I do think that I have kind of mastered competing with anyone else like I don't care what anybody else does.
I've noticed that when I'm not doing something like for example, I want to go to law school really bad but I'm not other than podcasting and being a mom I'm not doing anything for myself right now.
And during those times is when I'm worried about keeping up with the Joneses right like that's when I'm looking at who's doing what what do I need to be doing better.
And in some ways it can be healthy because it's like okay you want to surround yourself with like minded people I want to surround myself with people who are doing things business wise
or making you know progress in their lives and you know doing big things.
But when I'm looking at what they buy and things that they have versus like what they're doing and how they're elevating themselves.
That's when it becomes really toxic.
And so I think right now I'm in a season where I need to find something either hobby wise or job wise that is separate from podcasting social media everything which in my opinion I think could be law school for me.
And I really need to hone in and focus on that so that I'm not worried about what the next person is doing.
I find it's very toxic when you are competing with what you think other people have because you have to remember that what you think they have you're not a part of their financial life you know so what they might appear to have might not actually be what they have.
And so you have to be very careful of that and I think that it's good to look up to certain people and be like you know what they've really accomplished X, Y and Z.
If I hold down what I'm doing and I'm going on my own journey and I'm accomplishing these things for myself I can also get to there.
But I think that some people get in this mindset of I need to copy what that person's doing so that I can get to the same place that they are and that is a toxic thing.
Like I only want to do what I want to do and when I look at my life I'm like okay does this fit in my life and the direction that I feel like I'm going because at this point if it doesn't I don't care about it.
Like that might be a goal for someone else but it doesn't fit in where I'm at in my current life.
Right.
So maybe we'll go to law school I will just tell you that like.
I already went down a rabbit hole for LSAT tests and they have one in June and one in December December allegedly has more of a curve and June LSAT testing has proven to be the toughest so originally I was going to pay the 215 and do the June one.
But now I think I'm going to wait a little bit and do December one because I was like what happens if I fail like how long do I how long do I have to wait to take it again.
Because the college right here by me just opened their law program which before the only law the closest law program was in Pennsylvania which was close to a two hour drive so it would not be possible for me for a long time.
Should we both like start studying and both take it into December.
Yes and so should Kristen.
We're not going to compare scores like we can tell we will not compare scores.
Yes.
Okay well maybe that's something that we will do I just want to say also I think something really good that you can do for yourself is invest in self care things you know yeah if you're if if you're saving and you want to feel good.
Me going getting my eyebrows tinted and waxed and my lashes lifted and tinted is a self care thing for me and it's honestly a hobby like I love that for you me invest in self care I'm like yes ma'am that's that's my hobby time.
Okay, how do you think your trip is going to go. What excursions are you most exciting for are you most excited for and I just want to know ahead of time because also when you get back I'm going to ask you the same question.
Okay, so I have I think at least five excursions planned so far one of them is already kayaking.
One of them is snorkeling I think in Thailand. I'm definitely going to go watch the girls shoot ping pongs out of their kitties because I feel like if I'm in Thailand and that's like a staple there then I definitely need to experience that.
I'm going to an elephant sanctuary which is not one that you ride the elephants because those ones are supposed to be like not really great and not good for the elephant so basically just like hanging out in their space but not riding them or anything
and then allegedly part of this excursion specifically you make paper out of their poop.
No, I'm, I'm glad I'm not on this trip. This sounds too much exploring for me. And it's honestly just like exploring things that I never need to know.
I need to know if this is something that they do regularly or like I just have so many questions. I just have to do it.
Lindsay you can take two weeks off of work and go on a trip. And you literally came at me and said we're going to make paper out of elephant turds. I would be fucking pissed.
I can't wait.
No, like, no.
Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think one of the most interesting things that's going to happen is the ping pong balls flying out of the kitties.
I think that's going to be a very interesting thing. I'm not sure that I would want to be in that room. I would like to see a video.
Because the thought of a ping pong ball hitting me from someone's coochie gives me the heebie jeebies.
Well, I'll keep you posted.
Please. Okay, someone asked what ways I have seen you grow and change since 2017 and I feel like that's like such an open ended question because I just feel like it's so much.
I feel like when we met it feels like forever ago.
You were in such a different life phase and I feel like you've been through a divorce since then.
You had another baby dad since then.
You navigate co-parenting way differently since then. You truly started investing not only like your time but your energy and therapy and so I think that that's just changed a lot.
I feel like you're still slightly disorganized but way more organized than you were when we met.
I feel like you're in such a better place mentally even with more children.
I feel like you're in such a better place mentally and you can compartmentalize and place things in boxes where they belong whereas it just seems like way more chaotic when we first met.
I definitely agree with the last statement that you just made.
Compartmentalizing is something not everybody can do all the time and sometimes you have to learn how to do it over time but there was a time where I would mesh everything together and it was just chaotic but now I feel like I try my best to put things away, let myself feel how I feel during an appropriate time instead of bringing it everywhere.
You know what I mean?
And career-wise I just feel like you've grown so much like who would have ever thought in 2017 that you would have three successful podcasts be off of reality TV because I can remember at one point that you couldn't see beyond that because it was what you knew.
I always said I was going to write it until the wheels fell off.
And how good is it to be able to leave something and you choose that versus someone else choosing that for you?
110%.
And that was something that Chelsea would tell me too because I would talk to her about that decision and she was like,
Kale, leave the show on your own terms.
She told me how scary it would be but also how liberating it would be to leave on my own terms.
Because it was something that I wanted to not because I was forced out, not because I got kicked out, not because the show ended or got canceled, it was because I personally was ready to go, my kids were ready to go, things like that.
And so it feels really good now to say that I'm not more successful because I do owe a huge portion of my life to thanking, being thankful for the opportunity but also my livelihood is the podcast.
And that feels so good knowing that people have supported me in this journey and have made that possible that I have been able to leave the show and be in a place where I could still financially continue.
And to just think, before we get into foul play, I want to end on this, to think that Kale was hesitant to podcast.
I did not, I was so nervous, I was so nervous, so shout out to Lindsey Chrisley because you knew what was up, you knew what was up.
If it wasn't for you, I would not be here at all.
So, I mean, and I've said that in multiple interviews, I'm like, Lindsey was the reason why I started podcasting.
You guys, it was not an easy feat.
And the bitch was crazy.
It's not an easy feat.
I can't, I just, I can't believe when I, when I think back just from where we started to now, it almost makes me feel like I need to shit myself because I'm like, wow, we really, like we did that.
This is like, we did that.
Yeah, we did.
I mean, how crazy though, like we, I don't even think you could have known how well, I mean, maybe you did maybe, but like how well things would go.
And obviously we've had our bumps in the road, we've had, you know, all kinds of things happen in the five, how many years has it been five, six years?
Six years.
Yeah, I think six years.
Yeah.
It just doesn't feel like that's so, six years is a long time.
Yeah.
Will's like, y'all been on your bullshit for a long time.
For a long time.
Okay, let's do foul play.
Okay.
Let me set the scene.
I started out a new job and one of my new coworkers I had gone to high school with and we reconnected there.
He left a very long term relationship for me and work was pretty awkward because a lot of guys knew the X.
So a bunch of people from work decided to go to a popular bar slash club in the area for someone's birthday.
This was the first time in this guy.
This was the first time me and this guy were going out together, let alone with my new fellow coworkers as well.
All was fun.
I was drinking and we had Uber there.
Someone bumped into me and cracked my vape.
So I was super upset and another coworker said, here use mine.
Well, it was good old Mary Jane, which I can't tolerate.
I immediately felt sick and threw up everywhere in front of the 10 plus new coworkers and my new man.
New man had me sit with another coworker, literally the hottest guy ever while he got paper towels to clean me up.
I then proceeded to straight vomit on the hot coworker.
I was so wasted.
I left the bar in a candy and a very and I am a very.
Oh, sorry.
I left the bar in a candy and I'm a very conservative dressing person.
Once we got back to the new man's truck.
He was sober.
I laid in the back seat as he drove to my house.
I vomited all over his truck.
Mind you, this was our first night out together.
We got to my house and he showered me off and put me to bed and stayed up cleaning his truck.
This was four years ago and my coworkers still remind me.
I was mortified five years and two kids later he puts a trash can by my side of the bed.
Anytime I have a drink, if he cleans up your vomit and isn't embarrassed by you, he's a keeper.
Oh, wow.
I definitely had my share of men clean up my vomit a.k.a.
Malik, a.k.a.
Elijah and neither of them were because I was drinking, but also I agree.
If they clean up your throw up with no without batting an eye, they are a true winner slash keeper.
Yeah.
I feel like a good indication like you should never make decisions regarding men until you
have had a stomach virus, a shitting bug, a migraine.
Those are all very important things and how they handle that situation.
I've been in two situations, one of which they cleaned up my throw up.
I'm like, you're a G for that.
The other, I'll say the other one was Will.
He would deliver things to my bedside table like toast and drinks, make me a drink, whatever.
I don't think Will ever cleaned up my throw up and I don't think I ever shit without multiple
doors closed around him in 10 years of marriage, but that's a whole another story for another
day.
I did just want to say where in this person typing or writing in left a long term relationship
for someone else.
It bothers me now.
Oh, because she said he left a very long term relationship for me and work was pretty awkward.
Okay, wait.
So you're saying that that bothers you that someone left their relationship for her or
in life that bothers you?
Well, I mean, in life it bothers me.
So it bothers me.
Okay.
But it didn't bother me until probably within the last year.
I am a firm believer that you shouldn't leave any relationship to get into another one.
I feel like you should fully like close all of those doors before opening another because
I just think that there's so much that growth that happens when you allow yourself the time
between one thing to the next and you're able to put things in proper perspective.
I know that that's not realistic and all situations and stuff happens in life and everything's
not so clear cut, but just for me moving forward, I would not get into something new without
something old being closed.
That's fair.
I think that's a fair statement.
And I have always been told my nanny always said growing up, you will, you will leave
them how you found them and like you'll lose them how you get them.
Yeah.
So I'm very that never meant anything to me growing up until literally within the last
year.
Well, that's like the question that you asked me about like the lessons that I've learned
in 31 years.
It's always the cliche shit that we've heard growing up and like I've said this before,
but like especially the comment of like, Oh, you know what they say about you as a reflection
of them.
Yep.
Or you know what I mean?
It didn't make sense to me until I was an adult and I was going through like real shit as
an adult that I fully understood what that meant like hurt people hurt people.
You know what I mean?
Like, yep.
When you and same thing for relationships like you just said a lot of times like you
leave a relationship because of X, Y and Z you meet somebody else.
You were going to leave that person for the same reason or they're going to leave you
for whatever reason they left their last.
So I do agree with that.
I mean, sometimes it works out and sometimes it's, you know, people get lucky, but overall
I agree with Nanny and you leave them.
How does it?
What did you say?
You leave them how you found them.
Yeah.
Um, back to this person now.
Yes.
If they clean up your puke, they're, they're probably a keeper.
Um, also I would just be mortified and I also want to say before the next foul play, um,
I haven't heard the word cammy used in a long time and I miss it.
I love cammy's.
I think Braulettes are the new cammy's.
Yeah.
Okay.
It was my 21st birthday and in true 21 year old fashion, I got hammered.
I was so drunk that my friends had me back home by 10 PM.
My boyfriend at the time was just as drunk and we started to play around.
I tend to be a little extra frisky with some alcohol in me.
Don't we all?
I was giving him head when out of nowhere, I threw up on a stick because I wasn't done.
So I grabbed the blanket, wiped it off real quick and finished the job.
He had no clue until I told him the next day when he asked why the blanket was crispy.
Yep.
We still use the blanket to sleep.
Did I say I was hammered?
Was that you writing in?
No, I was pregnant on my 21st.
Okay.
All of this is like a very typical 21st birthday situation.
I feel like it's very okay to be that drunk by 10 PM on your 21st.
I think it's also okay to say that you're extra frisky with some alcohol in you.
I'm saying all of these things to say, these are my experiences.
I've never given head and threw up on a dick.
So I leave that one to Kale.
If I did do that and I puked on a dick and it puked out on the blanket and I woke up
and not only did I puke on the person's dick, but then they had a crispy blanket to wake
up to just off me.
The crispy blanket took me out.
It took me out.
The crispy blanket was like, but I have been there.
Maybe not with throw up, but well, at least not my own throw up.
I have absolutely slept in piss.
I've slept in, you know, maybe throw up.
Yeah.
Like if one of my toddlers is in the bed and then they piss and I'll just throw a towel
over it and then I'll sleep in that spot.
Okay.
I will confess that time that Georgia puked on the bed, it was so late in the night and
I was like, fuck you for this.
I'm just going to put a towel on over it and then it was on the other side of the bed.
So like that's fine.
So that's understandable.
If I puked on a dick, everybody's getting cleaned up because like I feel bad that even
did that to someone like they need to go and severely like wash themselves also like they
need to be alerted that I have projectile vomited on their dick and like that I'm going
to tell them so they don't get like an infection like that's just not happening.
So just want to say that and I feel sorry for whoever's dick you also puked on.
You should apologize.
I definitely puked on one before so no shade, no shame, no shade.
I understand.
I think I'm going to go actually to the grocery store and get some salad kits.
I know that you're not a big fan of the enchilada, but I am.
Wendy shut the fuck up.
Why are you like this?
That's what I'm going to do and I just wish you well in Thailand.
I hope that no pussy balls hit you.
I hope that you have fun playing and shit and we'll see you whenever you get back.
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