Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Preventative Cosmetics, Being a Girl's Girl & Food Worries

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

CC345: On this month's bonus episode... Lindsie and Kail inform the non-believers and haters about Botox and Dysport. A listener sends in their story in regards to spousal support. What does being a Girl's Girl mean and should it really involve strangers who's situations you know nothing about? Lindsie finds a graph on every day foods containing chemicals and worries about which companies are really trustworthy.  Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month Dreamland: Go to dreamlandbabyco.com and use code COFFEECONVOS at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide, plus free shipping Hiya: Receive 50% off your first order at hiyahealth.com/COFFEECONVOS  Stamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Good morning Lindsey. Good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kail and Lindsay. Good morning, Lindsay. Good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. Looks like we're both wearing graphics today. Yes. And we're also going to start with an Elani convo today. So I took all the babies to Target really quick and not doing that again. There's a reason why we haven't left the house with all

three of the little ones, but we had plans on Sunday to go to Legoland, and then we had plans to go to dinner when we got back after I was getting the other kids, right? So boom, both people invited us, right? Like they asked us, do we wanna go? Cool, love that for us, both canceled. So we were like, what do we do?

Because it was two different families, right? So so it's fine I'm like not mad but we're like I'm already have hair and makeup like I was fully dressed whatever so we go to Target and not only did they have Stan Lee's there but they also had the Stanley I have the brew money oh see I've seen, but I never saw a Stanley one before. So I got the matching Stanley because Elijah also likes the, um, the other drinks that are this size that fit in here. Yeah. Like the white claws and trulies.

Yes. So I was like, and I have this sitting in my office, but it's like, it's a short one. But if it was bigger, I don't have a fridge in here. Cause I moved my mini fridge into my bedroom but I was like I need this to keep it cold because I don't always drink it right away. Listen to me, I need to get that one because you can see the top of the Elani like better than you can in this one I feel like, like you see more of it. Yes. Do you know how many times I've been strolling around town with my Elani like this and I'm pretty sure people are looking at me like I am walking around with like a roadie white claw.

Oh, a hundred percent. Because if I saw that on the baseball field where you could barely see it, I'm like, oh, she's drinking. She's drinking a claw because there's no laws when you're drinking claws. Why are you looking at me like that? Okay. No, first of all, got a couple things to tell you. Please tell me why I thought there was gunshots outside of my house this morning and it was a lawnmower, I'm pretty

sure backfiring. So that's number one. If you guys hear a weed whacker, don't know why they started weed whacking at this time. Not very convenient. Second thing, I would love to read text messages from one of my girlfriends this morning and very much related on so many levels. She said, how is it that men just get dumber and dumber? I can't deal with my baby daddy anymore and his stupidity sometimes. I would honestly pay for someone to slap him just for my own satisfaction. I'm glad that you didn't say names because I'm pretty sure that would be like a tick against them if they were like,

oh, I feel threatened, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's so funny. Dealing with baby daddies is not, I don't wish upon my worst enemies. Listen, I'm like, this is truly not how God intended for life to be. The intention is to get married, have children,

stay with the significant other that you had a child with, and then we wonder why our life is absolute fucking chaos. Speaking about co-parenting really quick though. Yeah. I think I've noticed that it is a lot better and we have way less problems going on at Will's house when I'm in less communication. Oh 100%. Javi and I have never been in a better place. It's the same and I think that's the same situation as you and Will and we

strictly email. I mean Kristen sees it. She oversees everything and no issues whatsoever. Like there is no fucking issue. I can't tell you the last time. And truly, yeah, we've all like all my co-parenting relationships have gone through the trenches, but I think for all intents and purposes, and truly also speaking of that phrase, did you know that I just learned that it's all intense and purposes, not all intensive purposes? Wait, what? You thought it was intensive? Rigatordous and addicted, intensive purposes.

So given the circumstances of like four, three baby daddies plus an ex-husband, truly, it could be way worse. My situation is people that have one baby daddy have had worse situations than me with four. So when people try to come at me about that and they're like, I don't know how she juggles seven kids and four schedules and this, that, and the third, it's like, there's no, it's fine. I don't know. I say the same thing. I say this to

everybody. I'm like, I do not know how she does it with that many people involved. But it could be so much worse. Like it could truly be three of the third. You know what I mean? Yeah, but explain like, do you feel like it's because you guys have already been through the trenches that you're just like, you fought it out and now it's good? No, I think that Joe does the best he can. I think that Javi does a really good job and I think that Chris does the best he can.

So I think that with that being said, and I think that Chris and I are moving towards co-parenting without personal feelings. And I don't mean personal feelings in a way of like romantic feelings. She was just like, no resentment, animosity, those types of things. Like we're working towards that. But you know, Joe and I, we don't have, we don't argue.

There's nothing to argue about at this point. It's just like, you feel how you feel, I feel how I feel. And we just do the damn thing, same thing with hobby. And you know, I just, yeah, we've already been through it. I think for me specifically in my third situation is like, I've already been through it. And so now it's like we did our fighting and now it's just a one sided, we're not, I'm not going back and forth, you know? Like every situation is different too. So I feel like some people who are out here co-parenting,

they don't deal with some same things that other people are dealing with. And with you, you have three different situations with three different personalities that you're co-parenting with. That would be very, very, very hard for me. I said I will absolutely under zero circumstances have another child unless I am married and we are not like divorce is not an option. Totally get it.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I'm just saying it could be way worse. You know what I mean? So we have a little bit of an update. This is a listener follow-up to spousal support conversation from episode 343. And if you guys remember, you didn't listen yet. I basically was asking Lindsay how she felt about spousal support if there are no kids involved.

And so this listener said, I had to comment on the spousal support issue. I was married to my second husband for 13 years. During this marriage, I worked full time. I was hurt in a motorcycle accident that he was at full fault for four years into my marriage. I literally had to file a claim against my husband's insurance and after a year was awarded a settlement.

Needless to say, this man who caused me to be permanently disabled squandered my settlement money saying it was our money. When we divorced, I got 50% of our assets and he had to pay alimony for three years. I think looking back, I should have hired my own attorney and fought for more than $500 a month for three years. What?

I became disabled at 50 years old. Now I have no money other than that $600 a month disability. I think he should have had to pay me unless I remarry. I did not ask for his retirement either, so he got off really easy. Okay, I'm gonna say the exact same thing that I said before. If you were in a marriage for 13 years,

I don't care if you had children, if you did not have children, in the event that you had a child with that person, and that person made significantly more than you, and you were accustomed to a lifestyle, and then the other person that made more than you, regardless child or not, was at fault for the marriage

ending. Yes, they should have to pay. And I think that you kind of gave me perspective with that because I agree with you in that, this even opens my eyes further than that last conversation because we had said, oh, if that person that makes more cheated, they're at fault. That wasn't a mutual decision for them. It wasn't an amicable situation, right? It was essentially contested, right? So same thing for an accident. I'm sorry. Elijah loves motorcycles. If we were in a situation and something happened that he had to pay out

somebody millions of dollars or I get an accident and he squanders my money, 100% you're going to figure out a way to pay alimony and it's not going to be $500 a month because honey, I will go see a lawyer. My question is, somebody hurts me on a motorcycle and I understand that accidents happen. You have free will. She chose to get on the back of that motorcycle, right? So you know what could possibly happen when you get on it. If it truly was an accident, then we're not going to blame him for the accident, right? But what we are going to blame him for was saying it's our money, she is disabled.

Correct. So that's fucked up. I agree with you. Yeah, and I do think there's always, is it nuance or caveats or maybe either word can fit, but there's always nuances to the scenario or special circumstances where I would feel like, okay, that kind of go against what my overall theory is but 100% if I was disabled and someone's still whether

it was Elijah or anybody else I don't want to just make it seem like it was just him but you know spent my money yeah I know that's not okay and you should pay. Um, completely unrelated news I need to ask you about the eyebrow, what is it called? Lamination? Yeah, I just got that. Okay, so it's weird that you just got it because in the same week I had posted on my Instagram stories that like I don't like the trend. You don't?

But I think if it's done properly, then it can look good. But I've seen like multiple people on the gram that have this lamination thing going on and it honestly scares me. Does mine scare you? No, they don't. They just look like how they're supposed to look just in place where did you brush them this morning? But like, what does the lamination do? So you know how when you get... Did you ever get a perm when you were a kid to make your hair curly? Absolutely not.

Oh, okay. So I did. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got a perm? My mom is a cosmetologist. She's a hairstylist and so I was the guinea pig of everything. And so she permed my hair and yeah, anyhow. So it's perm solution that makes it easier, I guess. So it's not what I expected. This is the first time I ever had my eyebrows

laminated and I will say that I thought that they would be permanently brushed up. I didn't know that you would still like, what is the purpose if I still have to brush them every day, because my eyebrows stay like this with brow gel. So I didn't realize that I was still going to have to shape them. I also think that my, they're very thin now when I, when they're not brushed, like the, this part right here is like so thin because when you brush it up, it like thickens them a little bit. So it's not necessarily what I thought it's it's a, I probably will go back and forth with it. But I think I know what you're

talking about when the little hairs. Yeah. I don't personally like that look of eyebrows. I think it has to be on the right person or I like it when it looks like they're fluffed up like they're brushed up, but not the hair sticking out all over the top. That's exactly what I'm talking about. And it scares me to death. And I'm like, what does your husband think whenever he wakes up and sees like caterpillars are crawling on your face?

Truthfully don't even know if men recognize, like I don't even know if they notice. And also, do men give a fuck? Because I've looked my absolute worst and not showered for three days and I've had men try to fuck me. So it's like, I don't know what you got going on between those legs, honey, but I don't know. All I will say is, this was like months and months ago. I had a conversation with Trent and he was like, I hate that thing that girls do with their brows. And like we

would see somebody out with the brow lamination and he's like, I just hate those kinds of brows. So I think that it just depends on the type of man that you're with also. I will say it smells really bad to get them done and it takes a really long time for minimal results. Like I said, if it was going to like plaster my eyebrows up into this shape, I'm going to get it every time, but it doesn't. So I probably will go back and forth. Kind of like what you did with your eyelashes, like when you were getting them done and then

you weren't and then you were. I'll probably do that with lamination maybe like for this I don't know but but I feel like we're de influencing like at this point. And I love the girl who does my eyebrows so it's nothing against her at all like I she tinted them because I have really in the summertime as you know my eyebrows are like non existent. Oh she tinted them too which was nice and I like the color. So that's fine. I just don't know. Like lamination is, I feel like hit or miss. I think I'm at this phase of my life that I just want to do the maintenance stuff that's going to

give me the long-term results, but I don't really care to be in a salon doing stuff but I don't really care to be in a salon doing stuff just for the sake of doing it like a lamination appointment, uh lash, uh extensions. Do you feel like lash extensions are going to be a thing from the past? At some point. Yes, and no, I think they're going to change. They're going to evolve. They're going to it's not going to be these like really long lashes anymore. I think it's going to be these like really long lashes anymore. I think it's gonna be like the very natural, more full, lighter, you know, because I'm missing lashes from when we went on vacation,

this eye specifically. I think it's, they're gonna be different. I think they're gonna evolve and they're gonna be different, but I don't think they're ever gonna go. I saw this thing on Instagram where somebody was posting about lash extensions and I had also said something about it on my Instagram story that I used to do them. I would not do them anymore

because I think it's so damaging. And how do people keep up with the appointments? That's what- That's where I had to draw the line because I love the way they look. I love it. But I was going once a week because the shedding, I guess, or whatever, and doing my makeup and doing all my regular day makeup and stuff and being in the pool and all of that, I had

to go once a week and I don't have time for that. I mean, I'm getting my nails done every three weeks now and that's not normal for me just because it's just a lot of maintenance and it takes a lot of time. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com slash coffee and get on your way to being your best self. I think over the last two episodes,

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to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dotcom slash coffee today to get 10% off your first month. That's better help. HELP.com slash coffee. I also while we're on the topic of the influencing and like maintenance of like beauty, this woman gets on tik tok and she's talking about how like influencers will never influence me to do this, this, this and this and one of them was disport and Botox. And she's like, I just don't understand. Like, why are we in our twenties getting this? Like I, I, you could never convince me to get it. And I commented and I was like, I don't know that that follow falls

under the same category. I said, because there is a reason, like people are not just getting Botox just to get Botox. They're not getting dysport just to get dysport. That is a preventative to get Botox. They're not getting Disport just to get Disport. That is a preventative situation for deep wrinkles. And I said that. And like, you know, my, and genetically speaking, my family wrinkles and sags so early on, but it's like, you know, my mom started to sag and get, I mean, the alcohol and other things contributed to that. But like also like my grandmother, my great grandmother wrinkled really quickly and just, you know, whatever. And so I was like, no, I think genetically speaking, people are prone to, this is preventative so that that doesn't, I still don't get it,

what's the point? Oh. And I was like, at that point, you're just committed to not understanding that it is preventative. Yep. Getting Botox or Disport, yeah, unfortunately, people do start earlier and earlier, but it's not I mean, yeah, if you don't have them at all, when you lift your eyebrows, and you

don't see the lines and you're not noticing, fine, don't do it. But if you start too late, you can't do any amount of correcting no amount of Botox filler Dispore is going to correct damage that's already been done. Oh, I was having this conversation when I remember me telling you that I went to like this new skin place and they did this whole, they had this whole machine and you put your face down in it and it shows you like multiple layers of your skin and the damage that's been done. And then the machine says like, these are the types of things that would be recommended as care for like this client.

She was talking to me about people coming in, wanting seeing girls like on Instagram with these flawless faces, no wrinkles, whatever, and somebody trying to start that process at 40. And once the deep set wrinkles get in, you're never gonna get the same result as somebody who started early and kept up with it. Well, so I think that's part of, you know what?

I also think there's a huge misconception between fillers and Botox or Dispore because people will comment on my stuff, stop messing with your face, stop messing with your face. Why does she have so much fillers? I don't have fillers in my face. Aside from my lips that I got one time in two years, I do not have fillers in my face. Dispore, and I think that was part of the video that I'm one time in two years, I do not have fillers on my face. Disport, and I think that was part of the video that I'm talking about where she's confused. I think she doesn't even know what she's talking about because getting fillers and getting disport and Botox is to prevent wrinkles and sometimes headaches and other things and sweat.

Some people, if they sweat really bad on their nose or on their forehead, they can get that to not do those things. Fillers is injecting your skin. This is for people that don't know because Lindsay already knows. To put collagen or is it collagen? It's to put filler to make your lips bigger, make your cheeks bigger, pull back your face or make a jawline. I don't have that. I want that. I want that. So I think that when you're talking, don't spread misinformation about fillers, botox, dysport because they're very, very different. And like Lindsay said, you cannot go in at 40 years old and try to put all of this botox and fillers in your face and think that you're going to look. Botox and fillers in your face and think that you're going to look.

Kristen said me, I shoot up my nose. She's talking about just, but it's just so infuriating because if that's who they're talking about, it's a different conversation. And I just want to be very clear and transparent that I've been doing Botox since well, I actually do justport now, but when I started, I don't believe Disport was on the market. So my parents' doctor used Botox at that time, and I started minimally at 25 years old. And while that sounds really young to start,

it was a very minimal amount. And I also wanna say I get tired of seeing comments from I'm gonna call them spectators or viewers or whatever. Wait, I love spectators. That's actually really funny. The haters that are just watching and complaining. It's like this is not a fucking spectator sport. Like I don't know who told you that and I don't know who told you that you needed to

fucking comment but here we are. I get really tired of seeing on people's comments including mine, oh this girl's face has like completely changed and it's like no yes but like also no because number one I've aged, number two I take care of myself, number three I feel like we know way more about skincare and preventative things now than what we would have years ago. And I saw on this one girl's page, they were like, your entire face

has just completely morphed into a new human. And it's like, you would be very surprised at the small revisions that you can do with like a product like Botox or Disport. I get the lips comment all the time. Actually told Diane on my Instagram last night to back off. If you've got some shit to say, then maybe go and look in the mirror and say it to yourself and like stop saying it to me because quite honestly, it'll give a fuck.

It's just so interesting like what people choose to pick apart. Like if I want to mess with my face and even if it looks bad or funny, like let me handle it because I'm looking at my, if I get a bad job on something and it looks funny because I really wanted to do so when I watch just follow the bouncing ball here. These lines right here they kind of more so point down right instead of being like, no, like just the slightest like because I look like I have resting bitch face and so I'm always it looks like I'm frowning or pissed off, right?

So one of the options when I went to my last this disport appointment was for them to be more neutral or slightly curved up instead of down. And I said, you know, like what, you know, what are you thinking? And she was like, well, she was like, I do want to let you know that like, in the event it's not put in the same place, it could actually be worse, like you it will frown you even worse. And I said, that's not event it's not put in the same place, it could actually be worse. It will frown you even worse. And I said, that's not touch it. I'm not even going to attempt that. But in the event that I did and it went wrong, I'm going to be harder on myself than anyone

else. So just mind your business. If I get something to my face and it doesn't look good, I'm the one that's suffering, not you, so you don't need to comment on it. It's like, I don't know who gave people all these rights to go out and just say whatever the hell they wanna say about people's physical appearance. It literally blows my mind. Speaking of like the frowny face situation that you're talking about, do you remember the girl off of Love is Blind, Chelsea,

that compared herself to Megan Fox? Yes. Yeah, well, people were saying that she should do what you're talking about doing. And it's like, okay, I'm pretty sure when she went on love is blind, she really didn't go on there to get told what she needs to do to her face to correct her face. Megan Fox reply, like, wait, I didn't. I saw that but I didn't see what she said. She was basically like, first of all, everyone was praising her with how she handled it. Like Megan Fox was like, Oh, like, true class act. She handled this so well. Like she's so nice. She's a girl's girl. But it really

rubbed me the wrong way. Because I feel like I could see right through her. Like you can't bullshit a bullshitter. And she was like, um, the interviewer was like, did you watch it? And she's like, no, I just like, don't have enough time to watch TV. And then the interview asked her, the person interviewing her asked her again, she's like, like I said, I didn't watch it. Like you didn't need to read it. Why are you reiterating the fact that you didn't watch it? Like to prove a point that you didn't fucking watch it. And then she knew what was going to make her sound good. You know, whatever she said was gonna make her sound good and try to be like a girl's girl. It just rubbed

me the wrong way. Because I was like, I see through you. Like I don't and I don't like that. The way that she said it just irritated me. And I don't know. Like I said, I didn't watch it. And it's like, okay, nobody can like why? Why? You already said that in the first part of the interview. So I'm confused why we're bouncing back to the same thing we Like I said, I didn't watch it and it's like, okay, nobody can't like why? Why? Why do you have that in the first part of the interview? So I'm confused why we're bouncing back to the same thing. We fucking got it the first time.

Speaking of girls, girls, I saw this article on parents.com and it says, what is a girl's girl and why is it not always a good thing? And this was so interesting. Like I immediately clicked on this article because I was like, I've always been told like being a girl's girl is the thing to be. Okay, but before you even read me this article, let me tell you a scenario

where I'm not gonna be a girl's girl. Okay. I'm not telling you, unless you're my best fucking friend and this has been an ongoing conversation across the board. Don't involve me in your cheating scandals because I'm not telling so-and-so's husband or I'm not telling you about your husband. Unless it's like you and you explicitly tell me today,

Kayl, if you see so-and-so cheating on me, I wanna know right now and I'm not gonna hold it against you, okay, maybe I'll tell you. But other than that, I'm not, that's not my fucking business. If I see your man out on the street and I hardly know you, I'm not gonna go tell you,

because that's not my fucking place and it's not my business. Okay, if this was somebody who is in like my core friend group and I saw this friend's boyfriend, husband, whatever you wanna call him, out running the streets with another woman. I am absolutely telling her, and I don't care if it wrecks the friendship or not,

because that's not gonna be on my conscience, knowing that I saw something, letting a situation continue with her thinking that things are fine. No, absolutely not. Like you do with information what you want to, but this is exactly what I saw. This is where I saw it. And what about like a regular acquaintance, like someone that you know, you might say hi to her, but it's not someone that you text on a daily or weekly

basis. What about now? I'm probably not telling because I don't know enough about their life to know what would be going on. Hell, she might be doing the same thing to him. So so perfect example. And I'm not going to tell you guys who in case you're from Samurna, Dover, Delaware area know I'm talking about. I don't go there anymore. But I was going to this nail place and someone was like, Oh, like, where do you get to this nail place and someone was like, oh, like, where do you get your nails done?

And I was like, oh, this is where I get my nails done. She's like, oh, you know, the one where so and so's husband is cheating on her. And I was like, I don't want to like, why did you do that? Like why? Because you know what I mean? Yeah, you don't have to call like the whole town. Also, it's just like, I don't know you well enough to tell me that. And then secondly, now you put me in a position that I don't because I was seeing her weekly.

So it's like, you know, and like we didn't text outside of that, but it's just like now I'm and even to this day, I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Like I now I'm uncomfortable. She could be doing that to him too. I don't fucking know. And I'm not going to involve myself in people's business that I'm just like passing acquaintances with. That's not my place, because I don't know enough

to know enough to say something, right? Right. So what did the article say? So this article says, "'As a mom of three daughters, "'any trending term that has to do with girls "'gets my attention immediately.' "'One of these is the label girls girl.

"'If I'm being honest the ideas always made me uncomfortable. I don't like the suggestion. I don't like the suggestion that as a woman we have to be on another female side no matter what, even if we don't agree with what she is doing or saying. But upon doing a little digging on social media, it turns out for many there's more than being a girl's girl than that. In fact, TikTokers share a lot of qualities of a girl's girl that are highly desirable. And one widely watched explanation, this creator says the opposite of a girl's girl would be like a pick-me-girl or one who behaves differently, typically around boys to get attention, often low key putting down

other girls in the process. Instead, the creator, a girl's girl, is someone who views other girls as allies instead of competitions, and it's hard to find fault in that. Meanwhile, in another video, a TikTok user shares an example of a girl's girl pointing to moments where this person is helpful

and protective when needed. Another popular creator explains that if you're not a girl's girl, if you let someone talk about your friend behind her back, don't stick up for her. Or if you can't handle your friend getting attention, supporting friends, yeah, count me in. The popularity of the term and what it means can cause issues including bullying or feeling pressured to always support peers. Doing anything blindly is unhealthy.

I have definitely in my 32 years done things unhealthy and in an unhealthy way. Like that I just didn't have business like being a girl's girl in that situation. It kind of involved myself in things that weren't necessary. I've done that. I think that comes with it, you know, just life experiences. But like now at 32, I'm not, it will only be in a situation where it calls for me to do so. All right, y'all, this episode was sponsored by Dreamland Baby and I did just place an order with them. They have a really popular product called the Dream Weighted Sleep Sack. And you guys know that I have used somebody for helping me with babies and sleep before. And this is perfect because I knew that I needed a weighted

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and I will keep you guys updated when I get my products. Okay, let me give you a scenario of something I thought about whenever I read this article. And I want you to tell me what you would do in this situation. Okay, let's say you are with somebody that you were dating because this happened to me like in the past. I was with someone somewhere that I was dating,

one of my best girlfriends shows up. There was some words exchanged between me and this person that I had been dating. And the tone of this person kept escalating and I was just sitting there eating pasta and like ignoring. The tone of the person you were dating or the friend? The tone of the person that I was dating.

And because I would not engage and I continued sitting there in a public place, just eating my food thinking, okay, if I don't engage then he'll either just go away or he'll stop doing whatever he's doing that's making me feel uncomfortable, right? Well, this person kept doing what they were doing that made me feel uncomfortable

that I clearly was not wanting to have the conversation. So my girlfriend steps up, kind of leans forward because she's on one side of me, I'm in the middle, and then he's on the other side. She leans forward and she goes, one side of me, I'm in the middle and then he's on the other side. She leans forward and she goes, okay, I've sat and listened to enough, like I'm not gonna listen to this, you're not gonna talk to one of my best friends like this,

this is inappropriate, you're doing this in a public place, this is a private conversation. What would you do in that situation? Because I'm not gonna tell you how I handled it from that point, what would you do to remedy now that you're one of your best friends has said something to your man and He's sitting there talking shit to you. Well first I think

This the friendship has to be a specific sort of friendship for her to do that. Because now, depending on the personality of you, she could have put you in a worse situation, or you could have been like, you know, thank you, I really needed that. And so I don't know, I think it would depend on the friendship, right? Like, oh, shit, I'm trying to think of like, Well, I'll tell you what I did. Okay, let's hear it. At this point, he starts coming after my friend after she's defending me and says y'all are doing nothing but ganging up on me. At that point, have him leave, see yourself out.

Now you're pissing me off. Now just truly now we're not dating anymore. Like there's no more date. So I'm like, this is not a ganging up on what you were doing was inappropriate. I chose not to engage with you. I was trying to do that to deescalate like what was going on and your psychosis and whatever you had mentally going on. And at the point that you would not stop, that's when she steps in and now you start

attacking her. So not only have you attacked me, you have attacked her for defending me. So nobody's ganging up on you. Everybody's just calling it for what the fuck it is. Point blank. Did you continue dating this guy? For a while. Shit. Okay. Well, you know, you live and you learn. I just, you know, you live and you learn because it's also just that weird. It's the same thing where like, you don't know if you just became like the

messenger and it's like, don't kill the messenger but also to your point in the beginning of the conversation is like, that's not on my conscience, like as a human being, whether you're dating or not, I'm not going to stand for you talking to my friend that way. But also you don't want to put your friend in a weird situation. So I think it does the being a girl's girl in that way Does depend on the friendship right like I think that you can't just blanket say I'm a girl's girl like you just can't well Okay, I also want to say before anybody

Gets out on the internet. This was not Trent. This is This was before Trent If it was not him. This was a very toxic situation. And I'm glad that I decided to see myself out. But in that situation, I'm going to be a girl's girl. Okay, every single time if I see somebody saying some sideways shit to one of my friends that I'm close to, and I'm sitting back observing this friends that I'm close to, and I'm sitting

back observing the situation, I'm absolutely going to step in if it's gone on more than five minutes and be like, Hey, you need to back up. Okay. Question about girls, girl. Okay. Scenario that happened to me. Mind you, you, everyone knows I'm in a relationship now, right? This just came to mind. So used to hook up with this guy, right? Not a relationship. It could have been, but didn't, whatever. Two of my friends hooked up with his brother. Okay. Or I think one of them hooked up with the other one was going to, long story short, there is like familial ties, right? Like my friends, brother, right? So the guy that I was like hooking up with then reached out to two of my friends on two different, two separate occasions. Okay. The one that the

brother hooked up with and the one that the brother almost was going to hook up with. Both of them basically shut him down. It was like, are you fucking kidding me? And they told me, right? One of them didn't shut him down as hard as the other friend did. What would you do? I would be pissed at said friend. Because I am in a relationship, but also like... Listen, I have this rule. Okay.

That if you have been with somebody, and I'm not saying like, because you've got to consider now like in today's time with like all these dating apps and stuff, everybody's kind of like dating everybody in the same area, whatever. If it has been more than a date, then I think that is off limits to your friend. Okay, how hard are we shutting them down though?

Like are we still talking to them and being friendly? No, we're not. Okay. We're not talking to them being friendly because what do we need to be friendly for? Like for what? Because this is going nowhere so I don't need to exchange niceties with you. I need to get busy and on my way. I need to get busy and on my way. Right? We need to, that says busy, big and then on my way. Busy and on my way. Period. Okay. Speaking of girls, girls, wait, time. Why does this episode just get so juicy? I don't know. But okay, this it gets even juicier. So on the internet, right? And this fucking wedding thing, first of all, we've already had our conversations about weddings.

I'm not going big or going home next time. It's going to be small, intimate, whatever. So two best friends are getting ready for home girls wedding, right? She's the bride having a Friday wedding. Okay. She's like, here, can you be my maid of honor? Maid of honor is like, yeah, sure. Doing all the things, you know, whatever. She decides then she's going to book her wedding the same weekend

the next day. So original bride have a Friday wedding, maid of honor then chooses to have a Saturday wedding, same venue, same location, all the things. So bride was like, can you step down? I don't know how, you know, and also used same vendors. I think it was the florist and the photographer for her Saturday wedding. And same guests, a lot of the same guests, a lot of the same bridal and groomsmen parties. And basically some of the people started coming to them

and like, hey, like we don't think we can even afford to do both of these and have these responsibilities for both weddings. And then the original bride is like, hey, also by the way, I don't think that you're gonna be able to fulfill all of the duties of maid of honor is supposed to fulfill or like be there for when you're trying to plan

your own wedding. And so what would you do? Because I feel like that is so fucking, like use the same photographer and florist six months from now, but don't do it on the same weekend because people really have, like sometimes you get the save the date

and the invitations pretty early, depending on the type of wedding and scenario and if there's like heavy travel costs and things like that, but also just a gift in and of itself and like an outfit. People budget for those types of things. Same thing for like a bridal party. If you're not paying for your bridal party's things, which I know that some people do that

and some people don't, people have to budget for that. So the fact that she thought that was a good idea, I feel like she was never your fucking friend to begin with. Okay, I'm gonna play devil's advocate and then I'm gonna tell you like really how I feel. Do we think that maybe the maid of honor started thinking like logistically and knowing that they had the same people that were going to be in their wedding parties and same similar

type of guest list, probably some variations, but like most people the same, that it would in the end be more cost effective for the guests that are traveling and being in there. And it's only like one weekend type thing. Do we think that she like maybe thought that or? No, because if I'm that close with someone that I'm their maid of honor, okay. Because to me, that's a huge deal, right? Then we would have planned it together. We would have been like, Oh, you're, you know, somebody because Kristin and Elijah talk about rings all the time.

So I know that if Kristin and I were both getting engaged around the same time, or she knew that I was getting engaged slightly after she got engaged, and we're as close as we are, we would have had that conversation like, Hey, like, do you think that it would be, you know, if we're getting married in a city that's like outside of our town, it's like, Hey, we're gonna have some of the same guests, like, maybe it would be cost effective for that for us to just do weddings a day apart, we could use they could use the same dresses, like we'll play at very different weddings, but similar, you know, that way they can use the same dress and dress in both weddings. We could use the same venue,

same, you know, whatever, whatever. And then these are the different elements. So to make sure that it's very different. And then here are the things that we think that we could collectively use. Like I can see that, but that is you are my best fucking friend. And we're having that conversation before it occurs. Not I've committed to your wedding as a maid of honor, and oh, by the way, six months into planning, now I'm gonna do the same thing. That's not your friend. All right, guys, Kale and I want to tell you

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they need to grow into healthy adults. I have always very much struggled with if anybody copies me on anything, like it used piss me off so bad. Like all the way, told you this before, like all the way to jelly shoes and kindergarten from Payless. Like it's been a big thing. I just bought Vally jelly shoes from Target the other day and she won't wear them for like a year, but I had to get them in case they're not a thing next year.

I need to get her toddler size. I love that she got jellies. I wish I had a daughter to get her jellies. You're so lucky. I've always had a big issue with that, but I think that if this happened to me, I would be very irritated by that because also I wouldn't want my friend having like the same similar pictures as I had from my wedding weekend at the same venue. Even if the flowers are different, it's the same florist. So I would imagine they're going to look somewhat similar, right? Same style

photography. Nothing is exciting for me anymore at that point. My parents always used to tell me, Lindsay, it's not that big of a deal if someone like gets the same thing as you. Imitation is the best form of flattery. And I'm like, I don't want to fucking be flattered. I don't want them to have it. See, that stuff doesn't bother me at all.

Like I have, one of my really, one of my best friends here. We just have very similar styles. I had posted about necklaces I had and she also has them. That doesn't bother me. We have very similar taste in clothes. Like, literally, if I got something and then I would like wore it a couple of times and then I'd ask her if she wanted it, vice versa, I'm sure she'd like, you know what I mean? That doesn't bother me at all. Even if like, because she's also a single mom, if she was like, told me that, I would not care. Like, that doesn't bother me at all. Even if like, because she's also a single mom. If she was like, told me that I would not care. Like that does not bother me at all. I would just want it to be a conversation ahead of time. Like, hey, like, we're,

you know, I want, you know, if we have the same bridal party, we're gonna use these like very neutral dresses, but her like, added color to a neutral is like very different than mine. I feel like there's still ways to very much set them apart. I think the biggest thing for me is just the effort that it took for this viral situation, the biggest effort in the planning, you didn't have that because I basically did the work for you and I hired the photographer and the florist and things like that. And so like in that way, it would, it would more so piss me off if it wasn't a conversation. Like I just did all the hard work and you got to basically reap the benefits of my hard

work. That would be the part that bothered me. That would very much bother me as well. Also if there's alcohol involved in this first wedding, as the bride of the second one, wouldn't you kind of be a little bit alarmed? Like, is everybody gonna show up to my wedding after like a bender? Here's another thing I just thought of

when you brought that up. If the bride of the original wedding is the maid of honor in her best friend's wedding the next day, what if she's leaving for her honeymoon? Because some people leave that same weekend. Or what if the fact I don't want to I don't want to be in made of honor the next day like I'm still on my high of my own wedding I don't want to have to attend your wedding.

Oh no no no no I think that this situation is honestly tragic I think it's very poor planning I think it's very selfish in fact and I absolutely would be pissed and I would uninvite you to my wedding. I think if I remember correctly, I think that's what ended up happening is that she was like uninvited and stuff. And think about how much drama that would like create within the friend group. Well hopefully their family because I guess they were like friends for a long time. I hope that families didn't feel like they had to pick sides. I hope that best friends like

the other the rest of the bridal party didn't feel like they had to pick sides. I hope that best friends, like the other, the rest of the bridal party didn't feel like they had to pick sides. Cause that's a place that I wouldn't want to be. Like that sucks. Okay. Completely unrelated, but I saw this on dailymail.com and it's slightly a follow-up from the Lunchable situation that we had last week.

It's this graphic that reveals the forever chemicals that are lurking in everyday foods that are linked to cancer and infertility. I just feel like I have had – Personally, I've had two friends be diagnosed with the same type of breast cancer within the last year, the same type. And so I've gotten like really big into – because I was talking to my friend Katie Herold, MooMoos and Macaroons on Instagram. Dr. Justin Marchegiani... Right. Katie Herold... And she sends me stuff all the time just about the rise in cancer rates

of younger people. And we regularly have conversations about like, where the hell is it coming from, right? Like, where? So this says, a shock study revealed that lovers of lobster, shrimp, and sushi may be at high risk for forever chemical poisoning. The researchers behind this study warns that seafood may be an underestimated source of toxic substances,

which have been strongly linked to cancer. Then there's this graphic which we can post to show you guys, but it's all these different types of products that you would get from the grocery store. And it says that these products that are in this graphic have high amounts of phthalates. Is that how you say it? Phthalates. Yeah. It says a forever chemical used to make plastic. And it was found in Annie's canned organic cheesy ravioli, which contained like all of these, this amount of that.

And it says that it also can be found in lining of canned products and plastic containers can seep into the food itself. And it has been linked to breast cancer, reproductive and development issues, heart and respiratory complications, and neurological and behavioral problems. That's so scary to me because we've had this conversation

before about other countries banning things like this, and I just don't understand what the, I mean, it feels crazy that people our age are getting these crazy cancers, and it has to come from somewhere. Oh yeah, well well I will post this like graphic or whatever and link the article but it's really alarming to me and I think about brands like Annie's for example and everything that you hear

as a consumer is like this is a better alternative to, let's say, Kraft macaroni and cheese, like by Annie's. And it's marked with an organic label at the top. And as a consumer and a parent who is trying to feed a child decently healthy, do you know how many times I bought Annie's products that I'm like, oh, because it's marked organic, I'm going to choose that over something that's not marked organic. And then to hear reports that come out like this make me very alarmed. And at this point, what do you trust and how do you properly do the research to know what you're truly putting into your body?

No, literally. And then even the websites that you think are reputable, they're not reputable or they're not backed, I guess. It's really hard to... It's hard. Same thing with sunscreens, right? I feel like what people advertise for that, it's like you truly don't even know. And even when you think you know and you've done all this research, everything like There was there's something right now that I'm trying to figure out with magnesium There's different types of magnesium and then this one girl gets on tik-tok and she's like I make this spray and it's this and it's This and it's this and she has all this like information on her stuff that I'm like, okay

It sounds good. And then I go in the comments and people are like, oh that's actually not supposed to happen Like you you know, you're you and they they have their own research. And so it's like, and they and they put in the comments, like what their stuff is, and I'm like, I don't fucking know what to believe anymore. But then there was this, this other graphic also that kind of shows you how it's like a graphic from like, how basically these chemicals get into the food products,

which I thought was really, really interesting. I'm kind of a nerd like about stuff like that. But what was really alarming to me was that there were these, how do you say that word? Thylates. Thylates. Thylates that are in Cheerios in a plastic bag that's in a cardboard box that also contained it. And even baby food was not immune to these toxins. Gerber food in a jar and Similac baby formula in a can, both had large amounts of these toxins per serving. No, it's scary. And then some people will argue,

well, you're supposed to have iron, you're supposed to have this, you're supposed to have that. And it's like, but how much? Cause I don't know if this is like overkill. I don't know if this is like the type of, I don't know. But how do you really even like start to do the research to like know where to start?

Somebody one time told me they were like, if you're gonna try to like live a healthier, cleaner lifestyle, then you have to do an extensive amount of research. But the best way to do it is to clean out your entire pantry and every edible item in your house. And I'm like, that sounds good and great, but like, what am I replacing it with? And how can we be sure that there's not going to be things that come out later that this product like you said about the clinic stuff is going to like, if I do, because a lot of that stuff is more expensive than stuff that's like the unhealthy, the not bad, all of those things. Right. And so

we're going to buy all these organic things and all of these things that are supposed to be better options. And then more stuff comes out that, oh, that by the way, that isn't as good or it isn't as good as we thought it was. Kale, I would love to know how your Poshmark business is going. And if you have everything that you need with stamps.com. I'm actually getting everything listed later this week. I just have, thankfully for stamps.com things are already prepared on that end,

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to try to become a healthier home as far as, but you've really got to think too, Kale, it's not just the food that we're eating, it's the products that we're putting on our body that's seeping into our skin. It's like you just need to start all over. The sunscreen thing freaks me out. No, the sunscreen thing really freaks me out. Really, really freaks me out because all the ones, these major brands that you think are like, oh, you know, we're better than like the weeding brand. And it's like, sunbum's actually not even good for you. And so it's like, what the fuck

do we do? And why are they allowed to go out here and like make all of these claims if they're just not true? And why aren't we like other countries that have more restrictions on the products that are put on our shelves? Wait, did you see the one? Did you see a video that went viral about how the sun rays are actually really good for us and that we need them and people keep, they're using sun being poisonous and cancer and this, that and the third to sell their sunscreens, but there's, all you need is like whatever product, it was like zinc or something. I don't know.

And it was like, you need this sun, like you need to sit in the sun, like you need the sun, which I believe that. I think there's an extent, there's like a line, right? Like you can't, you don't want to get sunburned, but also it's like, stop saying that you don't, that you have to put this poison on your skin. It's just, and I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist either. So it's like, where do you draw the fucking line? Listen, Jackson is really bad. We used to use zinc all the time for sunscreen. And the older that he's gotten, and I

don't know if other people have children like this, he just has no time or patience to sit there and let me put it on his back, whatever. And he demands he's just use the spray stuff. And I'm like, there is no possible way that this could be good for you But what is the alternative sit here and let you get like burp up or I'm gonna put this on you That's the other thing I've seen so much saying that the lotion itself is better than the spray and the spray doesn't actually do whatever the other thing

I want to say is like sunscreen in general to apply that every 30 minutes Especially when you're in water is virtually in fucking possible when we were just on vacation and I was like, all right, everybody out. I gotta do your spray. I gotta do this. I gotta do that. First of all, they still got burned. They still got fucking burned. And I did like clockwork ask my fucking kids they were tired of it like stop every 30 minutes. You're supposed to. Oh, hell now. My parents ever did that to me. I can't send them back to you do it every 30 minutes? You're supposed to. Oh, hell no.

My parents never did that to me. I can't send them back to their dads with goddamn sun sunburn because I already had one of the dads Oh, did you put sunscreen on as if I don't fucking know to put sunscreen on my fucking kids? Like, I put you're the one that told me didn't need sunscreen. So please do you know how many friends that I have that are co-parenting that have had that exact same conversation with their ex

about why did you let my kid get burn up? Do you know what sunscreen is? You're nitpicking and you're being antagonistic for no fucking reason. I know that I need sunscreen, so I'm not gonna let my kids walk around with no fucking sunscreen. Oh my god. Do you want to provide the sunscreen next time? My god.

Send him a Venmo request. Yeah, I've done that. He blocked me. And make it public. Wait. I've also done that and they make it private. It's so late. So you've also been blocked on Venmo by an ex. Yes. Same. Okay, let's get into our listener topics. This is from an anonymous member. And they say, what is a rule for your children and not a common rule? For example, a common rule would be like not doing drugs, but a rule that you will not

compromise on. I'll go first. As a nursing assistant myself, I will not allow my children to become a nursing assistant until 18 years old. But can you become a nurse assistant before 18? I don't know. I don't know. It says on here, one listener says,

don't you legally have to be 18 to become a CNA unless you go to tech school and high school to obtain it? Allegedly, in some states, you can become a CNA in high school, but I believe, she says, I believe you just have to be 16 years old. You can be licensed at 16. All I'm saying is, if I have a parent in a nursing home, I'm not going to be

cool with a 16 year old taking care of my parents, whether they have a CNA or not. Yeah, no. I just, my grandmother was in a nursing home and I wouldn't have want, maybe I could see if it was like a receptionist job or like, you know, door, you know, front desk type of situation, but taking care of an elderly person at 16, I feel like is a liability more than anything. I just feel like you haven't lived enough life to take on that type of responsibility, right? Yeah.

Is there other things in that? Yeah. Somebody said manners. You look at an adult in the eye and respond. For example, look at your face. For example, when a teacher says, good morning, you stop and look at them in the eye and respond. Walking away and not clearly speaking is rude. I don't care the age. People will always remember a polite, well spoken kid. So many times I say hi to children that know me, neighbors

or kids or friends. They are allowed to just ignore you. It's so beyond rude. People skills are needed in life. More than math skills or reading. I think that's so important. I do not say this to teach, go talk to strangers, but common manners are non-negotiable for me. I know that you've talked about this before. We've talked about this before,

but also I'm gonna take that a step further and the amount of knowledge now about kids on the spectrum, kids that have social anxieties, kids that... I mean, I was a kid that was nervous to say, hi, how are you? Or like, good morning. And so no, I don't necessarily... I think that boomer, the boomer generation specifically, and even people that are our age, they forget about the amount of people that we don't know could be on the autism spectrum. And we don't know

why they're not talking to us. So shut the fuck up. Truthfully, I don't give a fuck if a kid doesn't say hi to me. I don't care. Like my friends, kids, I've literally like, oh, hi, so and so like whatever. If they don't want to talk to me, they don't want to talk to me. And if I'm offended by that, then I'm the one with the problem. Okay. So you want kids to say hi to strangers because they were spoken to, but you don't want them to get in the car with strangers. Okay.

So imagine a kid who social anxiety or, um, or maybe they're abused and they have a chill and they're scared of authority. Like I was, I would have been a kid that probably did get in a car with a stranger because I don't know what the fuck, I don't know. You know what I mean? If that would have happened to me, I don't know. You know what I mean? I'm scared of authority.

I don't want to say no, but if they say they know my mom as a kid. You want them to say hi to strangers, be polite. No. I just, I can't, I think that there's lines and I think there's caveats and I think there's nuances And I think there's a fucking gray area so I don't know if it's just common in the south, but I was raised you speak whenever you're spoken to and Manners were a big thing now at this point of life. I don't know that any of us really Care and most people would say none of the Chrisley kids have manners, but in fact we do.

We know how to act. If we choose not to act in that way, then it's become a personal choice, but it wasn't because we were not raised to have manners and to be polite. I think as a parent, I would be upset if I found out that Jackson was just like blatantly going out of his way To be rude to somebody that he knew I'm never gonna tell him That he has to speak to a stranger because he was spoken to because I think that does the exact opposite when you're teaching stranger danger And you're like, oh well that person spoke to you and you have no idea who that person is.

That's confusing to a kid. I would 100% agree with you on both points. You know, yesterday I went to at Luxus school, you can like park in the parking lot and walk to the doors to get your kid or you can get in the pickup line. Yesterday I parked and I walked over and one of his like classmates was saying bye to him out of the window of her car. And he like kind of said hi back to her under his breath. But she literally said she literally was like, bye Lux, like whatever. And he like, she didn't, I heard

it and I saw it, but like she it was in a way that he was like, not really being nice back to her. And I literally said, I was like, that was really rude. Like, she was saying bye to you. And you know her, she's in your class, like she was being nice back to her. And I literally said, I was like, that was really rude. Like she was saying bye to you and you know her, she's in your class. Like she was being nice, she was excited. And so I told him, I said, that was really rude of you. Like if you're gonna say bye, make sure she can hear you. Because if you say it under her breath,

she doesn't under your breath, she doesn't know. She thinks you ignored her. No, I agree. I agree with that completely. To your point, yeah, but to a stranger, no, I don't agree. I'm like, if we're walking into Subway and some random person starts trying to talk to my kid, I don't care if you're just trying to be polite, why are you talking to my minor child? It's a little weird to me.

Also, I agree. I don't like when my kids are rude. Don't go out of your way to be rude. But also, I understand consent. And even if kids know me and I'm like, oh don't like when my kids are rude. Like don't go out of your way to be rude. But also I understand consent. And even if kids know me and I'm like, oh, hey, like how are you? Like, did you have a good day and they don't want to talk to me? Kids are like, it also depends on the age too. Like I feel like in elementary school,

kids are not necessarily always regulated. Like they can't regulate their emotions. There are so many adults that can't regulate their emotions. And so sometimes if they had an overwhelming day at school or like an overwhelming situation, and then an adult, even if they know them, comes up to them and is trying to talk to them, they're already spent. Their nerves are already shot. Their social anxiety is through the roof. They're having a hard time. We don't know what a kid, how they're processing their feelings,

no matter how polite they are. So I think that, again, there's gray areas to this. I'll give you an example that happened to Jackson. And you know, I've told you a million times that there's a lot of differences in the way I parent than the way I was parented. He was very young whenever we were filming on Chris Lee Knows Best and there was lots of crew members on the Chris Lee Knows Best crew. And I'll never forget one time that one of the camera guys tried to talk to Jackson and he just kept walking. And my dad stopped him and he said, Jackson, when somebody speaks to you, you respond to them. You stop and you respond. You don't just keep walking

and ignoring somebody. Okay. And Jackson said, Papa, I don't want to talk. And for me, I'm like, okay, well, he's only like two and a half or three years old. Like it's not really that big of a deal. And I don't really know why we're making that big of a deal about it, but I also understand my parents point and you do know this person. You do know that you should be stopping and having manners and being polite. And if somebody speaks to you, you speak whenever you're spoken to, to people that you know. So I'm like, how do you, what's the right answer? Kristin has to play us a video because we were tagged in a video from a listener.

Okay. And we're going to play the TikTok video here. Okay. I'm nervous. Do you have a boyfriend? Nope. Okay, so look, if you tell me the craziest secret, secret you never told your parents, if I find it crazy, I'll give you $500 cash right now.

How many followers do you have? Well, I'm just starting off right now. Something my parents don't know is that I'm a sociopath I'll give you 500 dollars cash right now. How many followers do you have? Well, I'm just starting off right now. Something my parents don't know is that I'm a sociopath. What do you mean? I go to restaurants and like I poison like the ketchup and like the condiments and the tables. What do you mean you poison the condiments?

What do you mean? I put rap poison in like the ketchups and the Mustards and all that stuff and then I like to watch the kids eat it. It's funny So you tell me is you like putting rap poisoning and like ketchup bottles mustard bottles or whatever type of bottles at restaurants That's right. You guys can cook at a job for this right you submitted to a crime What happened if your parents in this video? That's right. You guys can cook up a joke for this, right? You submitted to a crime. Oh. What happened if your parents see this video? Uh, they won't.

I saw that. Ma'am? She strikes me- This is terrifying. Well- This is terrifying. That person strikes me as someone who is saying that for attention and not actually doing it, but it also raises red flags and is very concerning.

It's like highly- No, I wanna know where she lives to make sure she's not in restaurants that I'm taking my kid to. I don't think she's actually doing that. No, I think she's actually doing it. Nobody's just admitting, Kale, that they're putting rat poisoning in stuff,

like on a video. Restaurants have, I'm pretty sure restaurants have, where is she? So, I don't know. I don't believe it's happening. I think it could happen. I think she's thought about it, but I don't know that she's actually done it.

I still think it should be investigated. I definitely still think that it should- But who the fuck thinks about that? I don't even, I don't know because- Like the poison, like little innocent children or people just going in trying to put like ketchup on their fries. That makes me like never want to use

another you know, like when you go to a place and it's got like the condiments like in the middle thing and it's like it's got ketchup, mustard, hot sauce, whatever. I'm never using those again. I'm gonna ask for packets because that is absolutely fucking alarming. I just I can't I mean, can you buy rat poison like at the store? Yeah, like Home Depot and shit. I don't believe it.

I don't buy it. People would, somebody would have figured that out by now. And if I'm pretty sure, don't quote me on this, but for autopsy, autopsies specifically for like children, I think they're always investigated. They would have found a link between poison. Because when my grandfather poisoned my grandmother, they found those types of things. Wait, what? When what?

Did I ever tell you about this? No. Oh yeah. My grandfather and my grandmother had this Romeo and Juliet plot. If one of them ends up in a nursing home, they would just kill the other and take the other one. Like a homicide, suicide situation. Wait, this is for real? You're not making it up? No. This isn't like for a reaction?

No. So like did some, who poisoned who? My grandfather poisoned my grandmother. Did it kill her? No, almost. What did he poison her with? Paint thinners I forget what else there was like a there was like a few things that he was Concocting and bringing into the nursing home to kill her. So what was he gonna do to himself?

He was going to so that their property was There's like a bunch of acres. So he was gonna to go into the woods specifically, and I quote, so that there was no mess to clean up. He was going to do it outside the house so that there wasn't a mess in the house. So they were just like going to go out together. And that was a pact they made long before she got sick. And she knew about this like poisoning and she just like sat there and got poisoned. Well, no, she had Alzheimer's at that point, but this was a pact that they made before she got sick.

So like, this was like, if this happens to you, this is what we're gonna do. If this happens to me, this is what we're gonna do. Like it was a plan before either of them got sick. It's like Romeo and Juliet. And on that note, foul play. I had just broken up with my boyfriend at the time. Mind you, we were together for five years.

Unfortunately, we were stuck in a lease and neither of us were in a position to pay the $4, my boyfriend at the time. Mind you, we were together for five years. Unfortunately, we were stuck in a lease and neither of us were in a position to pay the $4,000 to break the lease. So we just made the decision to still live together until April. This was January at the time. So I moved into the second bedroom and let him have hours. I was in my hot girl era at this time.

And I mean, so fucking hot, you could not tell me. Shit, sounds like we're in her divorce era. I was 27 at the time and then a guy at work he was 21. He and I were hanging out and started really getting serious. My ex had no clue. One night I was laying in my bed in the bedroom and had moved into texting this man. One night I was laying in my bed and one night I was laying in my bed in the bedroom I had moved into texting this man. It was like midnight at this point and our conversation was getting very hot and heavy if you know what I mean. We randomly decided to meet somewhere for

a quickie. I went to walk out of my room and my ex was going into his room. He asked where I was going and I replied to Kroger to get a Gatorade and a snack. He looked at me awkwardly and then continued to go in his room. Me and said guy met at Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot, hopped in the back seat of his truck and pumped one out real quick. Wow. He said, wow. He went home, which by the way, he lived with his parents at the time. So going to his house wasn't an option. I hopped out of his truck to get into my car, went into Kroger that was right next to where we were. I grabbed my Gatorade and snack and

drove back home. I walked inside and my ex was in the kitchen and immediately said, you look like you just got done fucking. I said, what are you talking about? I went to Kroger for a snack and Gatorade. He said, Yeah, okay. I was with you for five years. I know how you look after. I didn't say anything and walked upstairs to my room and didn't come out until the next morning. Needless to say, me and said guy are still together five years later with two children living in our own house we just bought a year ago. Love you ladies and absolutely love the podcast. I've been a fan of Kail since 16 and pregnant. Okay.

Wow. That's juicy. And truthfully, your guy definitely knew what you looked like after fucking. Okay. I'm just going to say, I very much understand that people get themselves in situations to where you wouldn't have the $4,000. So stuff like this, I think probably is a lot more common than we know, like somebody moving into another bedroom,000. So stuff like this, I think probably is a lot more common than we know like somebody moving into another bedroom, whatever. Where I can't get behind this is if you guys are only living together for the sake of not having the money to break the lease, we don't have to go into a full blown lie about going to get a Gatorade and

a snack because what you're doing and what he's doing at that point should not matter. Oh, right. Right, right, right. Because she could have been like, I'm just, I'm going out like, don't worry. Like to give a full blown explanation, she probably just put that for context. I mean, I don't know. Maybe that was something that she, I don't know. Maybe it was like innocent at the time, but like now looking back, it's like- No, she said it was not innocent. She said that she wanted to have a quickie. So they met at Buffalo Wild Wings and did the quickie. She lied to him, the boyfriend that she's living with, she lied to him about going to Kroger to get a Gatorade and a snack, went

and actually got the Gatorade and the snack as her alibi. But you're saying she could have just been like- And was fucking in the parking lot of Buffalo Wild Wings. You're saying that she could have just been like, I'm going out? Like she didn't need to give like a full blown explanation? Yeah, because I just, I am big on, okay, if we aren't together, then we aren't together.

So what you're doing and what I'm doing, regardless of this living situation, which just seems very much financial, that's all it is at that point. So why are we out here lying and just not being honest and upfront? I don't know. Maybe she was like afraid of something that he might do.

I'm not really sure. I'm just saying, once you start lying like that, then you gotta cover your tracks and it just gets messy. It's just, if we're not gonna be together, then let's not lie about it. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. And I love that she's been watching you since 16 and pregnant.

Okay. Next person says, first off, I started listening last week and have gone as far back as 2022 Christmas so far. Great timing as this week I've experienced the foulest of foul plays. First of all, love to have new listeners. Love that you've gone as far back as 2022. That's a lot of dedication there. My boyfriend 37 male saw it took TikTok about parasites and worms. So of course now he thinks he's got parasites and worms.

That sounds like me. And sir, mean girls reference here. He ordered a parasite detox online and started taking it Sunday. Yesterday, Monday, we were sitting on the couch with company over for a couple of hours. Got up to make dinner. That's the first mistake.

If you're going to do any sort of detox, cleanse, fucking anything like that, you don't have company ever. You don't even need, you need to go to a hotel. Yeah. You know, I like go to a hotel. We're sitting on the couch with company for a couple of hours got up to make dinner and said I got to go. And he said I got to go wipe the sweat out of my ass. That's when it happened. Sheer panic. Oh my god, I'm bleeding. Please come help me. I don't know where it's coming from. Y'all I thought he had a hemorrhoid or something. We're

talking as if a woman started her period on heavy flow blood everywhere. So I'm inspecting trying to figure out where it's coming from. His balls are bleeding. So I'm like, what the fuck is coming from your balls? I thought the cat might have scratched or something. I'm not touching them. He can figure it out from there. I looked I saw said you're on your own. I'll be damned if he didn't put a whole ass worm out of it. I'd be damned if he didn't pull a whole ass worm out

of his underwear and have a hole in his balls. Where we both think that it came out of weight. Now what a worm crawly your balls. Well, that's probably where it was somewhere in that tract, maybe like the urinary tract, maybe somewhere in like the what is it your testes I don't fucking know. But like, I don't I know other countries probably Europe does like, yearly cleanses and like deworming. I don't think that I would have a stomach for it because if I had a worm come out of my body in any

out of any crevice or hole, no truly I don't think I would have a psychotic break. Like that type of stuff grosses me out. So I would have to be put to sleep for something like that. Okay. Well, she says he probably bled for an hour or so, no pain, just bleeding even after a shower. So needless to say, I've set up camp on the couch, told him, do not touch me, do not use my blanket, my pillow, not a goddamn thing of mine until you're done taking the nasty stuff, taking that nasty stuff and don't have literal bugs coming out of you. I can't even hug him because I get the heebie jeebies. So anyway, there's your foul play.

And don't worry, there will be zero sex because I'm not chanting having a parasite come. Having parasite come being anywhere near me on a normal day, let alone in fact that I'm pregnant. And that will majorly mess things up. Keep on keeping on girls love everything that you do. I am just confused. I need to know from anybody who has done these types of cleanses, if you've ever had a worm, just crawl out of your ball sack.

And by ever had a worm crawl out of your ball sack, I mean like the two guys that listened to this podcast. Elijah, have you ever had a worm crawl out of your ball sack? Full. He walked, he should have seen the face he gave. He brought me lunch between these episodes. And he literally looked up like, what are y'all talking about?

Perfect timing. Ask Elijah what he would do if a worm crawled out of his ball sack. I'm going to the doctor. He said he's going to the doctor. I heard if he said, I'm going to the doctor. He's going to the doctor. I cannot.

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