Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Purging Sale, Murdaugh Season 2 & Staying In A Loveless Marriage

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

CC311: Lindsie is purging her closet and giving it a second life with her instagram followers. Kail and Lindsie talk about their splurge items that are too expensive to recommend, the Murdaugh Murders season 2, and they finally get to some listener topics that they've been neglecting. Thoughts on strip clubs, a disciplining moment gone viral, and a listener asks if anyone else is stuck in what feels like a loveless marriage with kids. For Foul Play.. kinky sex at the in-laws, and Lindsie's favorite.. a wax gone wrong. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month Chime: Get started at chime.com/convos Progressive: Visit progressive.com to learn more Stamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale! Stitch Fix: Try StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos today and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say, thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship,

family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Good morning. We both showed up early today except this is like my work in the house sweatshirt. My chest is breaking out really bad. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's really weird. So I just wanted to wear something loose because I felt like maybe it was like the tight clothes. I don't know. What is that? Hopefully not a rash.

Oh my gosh. So. Do you have like working in the house clothes? Yes, like athleisure, but like loose. But is it always like you go to the same stuff to work in your house? Oh yeah, of course, of course. Like this has like bleach, look,

it's like bleached out like around the rim, you know.. You know you're about to do some laundry or bleach some stuff. Yes. If you guys hear a newborn baby crying in the background. It's not me. It's not anything. It's not me. It's not Kale. It's me.

Yeah. And I have a closet organizer here. I'm purging like so many things out of my closet. No, because you didn't, you didn't clarify why there would be a newborn baby because you said you have a closet organizer, but did she bring her baby? Is that what's going on? She could have brought her baby or I could have adopted one. Okay.

Okay. You know what? As long as there's some clarification there, it's one or the other. Okay, got it. I'm going through all of my stuff and when I tell you there is no better feeling, there's no better and worse feeling than purging your stuff. Like looking at your stuff, go out the door. Mm-hmm.

Gives me anxiety, but give it a piece. But you know, you know what's so funny is that how fast shit builds up because we both of us have been in our houses. Like I think you've been in two, two and a half years or three years. Uh, yeah, two and a half years. Yeah. And I've been for one and a half and I need to do the same thing. And it's just like, but we just moved in.

Okay. We don't have, why do we have enough shit to be purging? This is my problem because I hold on to things. We've talked about this so many times. Like those rainbow pair of socks that I gave birth in could not get rid of them for years. When I moved here, I've finally purged those.

Don't miss them at all. And don't know why I felt like I needed to have that tangible item to like hold on to the memory for the fact that I gave birth in rainbow socks. It feels so good to get rid of things that I know that I'm never gonna wear again. Like I just went through all of my blue jeans and got rid of them.

I'm not quite there yet because my body weight fluctuates so much. And so I hold on to hope about my clothes, specifically in my jeans, cause I go through phases where I just don't wear them at all. And then I'm like, oh, these will fit one day. But eventually I'll get to the place where I'm just gonna buy new ones and a new size, but for now I I'm hopeful that by the spring, we'll fit me again. Isn't it so strange how your body can fluctuate through like periods of your life? Like if

you are some people that get extremely stressed, lose a ton of weight and some people who get really stressed, they gain a ton of weight. I have a girlfriend who has been going through like a separation and getting ready to go through like the whole divorce process. She gained a ton of weight and her therapist actually told her like, Hey, don't leave that stuff hanging in your closet. Like if you don't want to get rid of it, that's okay. But let's like maybe put those things somewhere else because you looking at that stuff and it's causing you stress because you're not, you're, you're not getting back in it right now and you're not in the place to, you know, be in that size. Then you just need to like not

look at that stuff because that's causing you more stress, anxiety and depression. And she started doing those, what are those shots? Ozympic? I think that's one. And then cell, cell, I forget, like, I can't pronounce it, but it's a weight loss shot. Okay. And I think you go every 14 days or something like that.

Kristen's saying something, semi-glute tide. Is that how you say it? Yeah. So she's going through those shots and she's lost a ton of weight now and she sent me a photo and she was like, look, I'm back in these jeans and it was such a good thing for my therapist to tell me to take this stuff out of my closet for me not to keep trying to put my leg in pants that like I'm clearly not going to fit. So I just got rid of a bunch of stuff because I feel like my body has just changed. I don't know what happens. That's what I was just about to say. So you said your body has just changed. I know mine is more related to the amount of kids that I keep having. But more so like my hips change.

And so yes, the jeans in theory would fit because that is the size that I should be, but they don't fit because my hips have changed through each child, right? Like I stayed the same size, or like got back to the same size with after creed that I was in right before Luxe. Like I did at some point get back, but those jeans didn't fit me. The jeans that I was in right before Luxe, like I did at some point get back,

but those jeans didn't fit me. The jeans that I, like, and it was just like because of the, I don't know if my hip stayed wider or fat was in different places. Like I just don't know if I- My hips went back, like after a period of time. It's so weird, but I had that same thing after I had Jackson. I mean, I've always been a super

small person. I was probably my heaviest weight whenever I was in high school. When I graduated high school, I was 117 pounds. And that would that's my heaviest weight that I've ever been outside of just like pregnancy. And I've always just been super small. I sent you a photo into the group chat of Kyle and I on trampoline. And we're 15 months apart. Did you see how much smaller I was than him? I've always just been like a tiny person. But after I had Jackson, I would try to get in blue jeans.

And that's when my like legging era started. Because I could never feel comfortable in jeans. Because I think that was the one place that I got like a little bit wider. but now I'm back to being normal or probably even smaller. And I went through all of my jeans this morning and these are jeans that fit perfectly fine whenever I moved in this house and now they don't fit at all. So I just think saying all this, go through your closets, don't stress yourself out. If stuff does not fit, just get rid of it or like put it somewhere. Let me also just say, you know who Alessandra is, she is the co-host of Ivan and kind of

threaded threading. She told me to invest in a good tailor because it's not as expensive as what people may think. So if you have stuff that's maybe you lost weight and it's a little on the bigger side to invest in a really good, in a good tailor, like find someone that you like that's local to you and it's actually fairly inexpensive to just tailor the things that you already have if you've lost weight. So there are certain things that I would like to have tailored

but yeah, I need to get rid of the stuff that doesn't. So two of my problems, I regularly order stuff online all the time. Like clothes are my thing. Like I love having clothing options and I hate outfit repeating. However, I outfit repeat, but I've become good at figuring out how to buy items that I can change up the look by using the same pieces. So I think that's more of like a minimalist mindset. And I try to buy

like lots of neutrals, like most all of the stuff in my closet are neutrals. I do have pops of color because I think it's like necessary to have in your wardrobe. But this is what caused the closet clean out. I ordered a ton of stuff from Anteiler loft. Oh, I did. And when I ordered all that stuff, I was like, where am I going to put it? So then I was just like, okay, this is a good time for me to start purging. Well, then when I was cleaning out my garage, which is a constant battle that I face, like I don't know why I feel like garage is like a storage facility. Well, you say garage funny.

And this is the same thing that you said last time we recorded and I was fixated on the way that you say garage. How do you say it? Garage. We say it the same. No, you say garage. Garage. And I say garage.

Okay. Well, whatever. Stop thinking about it the same. No, you say garage. Garage. And I say garage. Okay, well, whatever. Stop thinking about it last time you recorded. For whatever reason, if I don't know what to do with something, just go to the garage. Like, just goes there. And then I only look at it whenever I pull in and out. So, whatever.

I didn't think you had anything in your garage. Okay, well, I don't now. I literally just took my trash out to the road. And this was the worst part was I did this like garage thing all last week. And then I had to sit and look at the stuff that I was like throwing away that was going to the trash. I had to look at it for the entire week until this morning that there was nothing more satisfying taking all of those boxes and things that like I did not need to the road. So with all that being said, I decided that I was going to have an impromptu garage, unorganized garage sale. So I get on Instagram stories and I'm like, Hey, anybody want like these uggs? You got them.

Why are you getting rid of those? What do you mean? People were telling me these were iconic uggs and like, why was I getting rid of them? What do you mean? People were telling me these were iconic hugs and like why was I getting rid of them? I've literally worn them one time. Why are you getting rid of them? Because I just feel like it's not the style anymore. You just need ankle ones. Do you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, but like I have some shoes that are not in style anymore, but I still keep

them because you might need a beater pair. Like if you're going to go like it's cold out maybe you know Lincoln soccer game next week might be super cold and I don't want to get my good uggs dirty. I have a solution for you. What is it? Go to tractor supply and buy the little like ankle rain boots. No because I got rain boots and I love them and they have little plants all over them and when I said I was wearing them on Sunday this past Sunday, Elasha made fun of me and I felt so uncomfortable. Well, I don't care if anybody's making fun of me,

I'm gonna wear whatever I wanna wear. So I was like, what the fuck? And so I was like, just give me the old Uggs because I just didn't wanna like, if everyone's gonna make fun of my rain boots, then I don't wanna wear rain boots. Well, another garage sale item, this golf hat. Why?

That's cute. You could have worn it right now. It says Mully on it. What is Mully? For Mulligan. It's a golf hair. Don't admit that. You're not putting that in the trash.

No, I'm not putting it in the trash. I sold it on my Instagram garage sale. You're what? And I sold it for free. And I'm paying to ship this to somebody today. I'm not trying to make more money on it. If you guys want it, you can literally have anything that I have in this house.

I literally said that on my Instagram. I'm like, I'm not even selling this stuff. Like just- How do they know where to get it and ship it to them? No, I just said, hey, if anybody wants these, these are like size whatever, just go into my Instagram comments on my latest post and tell me if you want these and I'll pick somebody off of it.

So I picked somebody off of it, they sent me their address, it's going to be out of my house. I'm going to have a happy customer. They got something for free. Okay. I mean, we're done. Okay, fair enough. And like these people who are following me on Instagram, they're deserving of this stuff,

honestly, You know. So another thing that Kristin and I have been chatting about privately, I haven't really had a time to like tell you this, but come the new year, um, I want to start posting like things that I use because people regularly ask me all the time, like, how do you curl your hair? Like, what are you using for a curling iron? Like what products do you use to wash your face? Like I'm so bad about sharing that stuff on a regular basis. So everyone that's listening to this,

you can hold me accountable come January 1. I will have highlights on my Instagram of everything that I'm using. Like- You haven't had highlights in a grip. Oh, in a grip. This is the thing though. I hate something that looks like a chaotic space.

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just call me the product trier and I'll just try everything so that you guys don't have to buy it and then you can just go to my Instagram and buy everything that you know that's good because I've tried it. Um, do you have a picture of said curling iron? Oh, it's right here. It just came. It looks like this. What is that called?

Give me beauty. Okay. So that's cool. I've never heard of that. I wanted to try the beach waiver, the one that like rotates for you. Okay, but. Do you know if that works well? The only problem that I have with that is that I'm not,

I need products that are simple. Like, I need ones that I can just go in there and I know exactly what I'm doing. The thoughts of that and my hair getting stuck in there and me not being able to get it out makes me stressed. Like this morning, this is the, I used my Dyson air wrap, but I used the brush roll part and I don't know how to use the light. You turned me off of the air wrap.

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not like I have it. I'm not a super fan. Like this, this side looks crazy. Um, do you know what I use this morning? Literally one of those Revlon hair dryer brushes that I've been using for like three years. And it's the best invention ever. Well, I use the brush the brush one and just blow dried it because I was like, I'm not doing the air wrap like curl attachment. I don't know how to use it. It's too complicated for me. My hair ends up like this. I'm not doing it. And that's why I

wear my hair in a bun all the time. I need simplicity. I need that's why I picked the iPhone over Android because it's just like the simplicity of it. Like I can't do complex things. Can we talk about the regular argument that Trin and I get about the iPhone versus the Android? I'm like, you fuck up every group text. Like, he have an Android. Yes. And then I'll go to try to send a GIF or is it GIF or Jeff, whatever.

I'll try to send it and it won't send or it'll like say not delivered or whatever. And it's like, OK, well, you know what, we wouldn't be having this issue if you had an actual iPhone because you would be getting text over fucking Wi-Fi. Well, I bullied Brandon from podcast one into getting an iPhone, like I bullied him. And I'm like, it's every time I would text him about like, clips for barely famous or something, I would be like, did you get an iPhone yet? Did you get an iPhone yet? Like, you need to do this. So that he

Christian told me that he got an iPhone and we were bullying him in our group chat last night because why does, I don't understand people that have androids. Or, well, I heard rumors and I don't know if this is true, but the rumor is that Android did try to work out a compatibility feature where they would be okay in a group chat, but Apple said no. Well, I understand why Apple would say no because they want everybody to have their product. So

that would limit people from wanting to buy their product because it's a feature that they have that they can basically corner the market, they've cornered the market on it. And if I was Apple business owner, I would be like, absolutely not like you want this feature, then you get my product. Fair. You know, a little bit back to this product thing, I just want to say, I'm never going to tell anybody to buy anything that's like super expensive. If I find something that is cheaper, like 100% my Amazon clothes, like I buy so many things from Amazon that, but if I put something on there

that is like more expensive, there is a reason that I'm using that more expensive item over something else. Like I am not too good to have cheap shit because I have a bunch of cheap shit that works on, honestly, I think the Revlon hair dryer brush works better than, and maybe a chooser error, right, for the Dyson. No, it's, yeah, I mean, I've seen people do great things with it, but I also just don't

have the dexterity and the time and the coordination. But I'm not telling people to go and buy a $400-something item if I can get the same look for less for like 70 bucks. I agree with that. So for less for like 70 bucks. I agree with that. So that's where we're at. There are a couple of products, honestly, that I'm ashamed that like I pay for. Like what?

Um, have you ever used elements products? I love elements. I'm like, I can't get off of them. Elements and Tatcha. And honestly, I can't. ZO skincare. Have you heard of ZO? Like I, like those things and I don't ever tell people to go buy them because they're so expensive because-

And it makes me embarrassed that like I have spent that. Well it's not even, it's just like read the room and it's like tone deaf, like not everyone and like I don't want someone to like me tell them to go buy like Zio or elements and then they hate it because I love it, but it's so expensive. Like it's so expensive. But so like, if there's like one product, I'll be like, you know, maybe splurge if you have the funds, but if you don't like, don't even worry about it. Okay.

The one product that is like my splurge that you will never not find in my shower is the elements. That bomb. Have you not used that to get your makeup off? No, I use, I use the elf one or the real techniques one because it's like so that might, that might be like a dupe for this, but I've tried other stuff and it just does not, it does not work in my opinion as well. And it's something about like smelling like I have been to a spa, right?

I do not use makeup wipes at all. No, I don't either. I used to use them all the time and they drive. They absolutely dry my face out. I hate having makeup off. When I used to film for Chris Lee knows best. Sometimes we would all like have a sleepover at my parents house because everybody was just tired like it was going to be time for dinner or whatever. And my parents get so

pissed because they're also white sheet people. And they're like you bitches do not get in our bed with makeup all over your face like Julie would literally walk around with those new Tragina makeup wipes passing them out. She's like, here, use these makeup wipes, especially with my nanny because nanny will, first of all, that bitch, she does not care. She swears by cover girl and you cannot tell her any different. Like you could get her the most fancy, like Savannah did her a whole makeup kit, like got her great makeup, but still goes back to cover girl.

And she uses her hands to like put on her foundation. I don't want to hear that. Should we do like a mini like makeup tutorial with Nanny because that would be funny as shit to- She's got to use a brush or a sponge. Like we're not using our fingers. She does not. We're not using our fingers. She does not. She puts her finger on the top and shakes it like that.

This reminds me of Susie. And then dabs it around and rubs it in. It's like, Savannah has tried so hard. Savannah, if that bitch is good at one thing, makeup, she can beat a fucking face. She is so good at it. I wish that I had, I wish I inherited that trait as well, but I didn't. I just like kind of put it on probably using the wrong brushes and stuff, but I can kind

of make it look good. Nanny, it is a tragedy. I'm going to make her do this is like Susie the finger on top, it and use your fingers like that is Susie Q if I've ever heard it I'm gonna make nanny do a tutorial for coffee combos over the holidays Yeah, on how she does her makeup you guys will literally hoot and holler But Julie would walk around with these new Georgina wipes wipes and she'd be like, Faye, use this for your face. Do not go and get on my bed and get that all of my pillowcases and stuff.

And she uses Dawn dish soap to wash her face. She will be in my parents kitchen sink using Dawn dish soap, rubbing it all over her face. She said, there is no better way to get off. I mean, I've never heard of that, but I do believe it just because if it can get greased off like ducks, that's what that was her argument. She said if it can get greased off of ducks, it can get cover girl off my face. Because you like, how do you get in the pores, right? Like, how do you get inside to like, exfoliate, I guess? Oh, I have a multiple like washing. I think I wash my face sometimes four times in the shower.

Like it is psychotic. Like I use that Elamis cleansing balm. That's what it's called, cleansing balm. I use that first and get everything off. The best thing I was telling somebody, my biological mom, she has super light eyelashes. And I was telling her about the mascara that we use from Thrive. And I said, it will get your eyelashes like black is black. And I'm pretty sure it's something with the texture of the way that that mascara

is made and how it like is peely. Yeah, it all like tube. Yeah, it just tubes off. So I always like tube it off first like that's first process. Then I use the elements cleansing balm and then I use a like, you know, like that acne control like wash. I think it's like clean and clear or something like that. I'll use that. Then I will dial my face with antibacterial dial. And then I get out and I use, I use, it's from that brand called Ra5, if you listen to Southern Tea, they have these,

what are they like those little cleansing pads? I use a cleansing pad when I get out and then I do all of my skincare. So it's like that is a main process for me Why are you looking at me like that? Because it just I need to see the picture. I need to see a picture of these products because it just seems like a lot Maybe I need to do a tutorial on how wash my face also. Yes Not me setting up a tripod if anybody sees me setting up a tripod in My bathroom mind your business. Just get like one of those suction things for your phone and stick it to the mirror. Did those work though?

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And I just have like some quick thoughts. Although Alec slash Alex Murdoch, we talked about that last time. They don't know how to pronounce their own names and everyone pronounces them differently, which is so weird. There was a question in season two in one of the episodes that was do you know, the people who knew the family think that Alec slash Alex did this by himself or do we think that he had help? This is my thought and I don't know what Lindsay's are so you can answer that in a second but I personally don't believe that he had help because I do think at this point,

somebody would have come forward and he would or he would have implicated them because he doesn't want to take this alone. If and only if there was any sort of help, I do believe that it was only to dispose of the guns. And so because there was two guns, two different types of guns used in the killings. Why does my landlord always weed whack in the most random fucking times? He's got the weed whacker. Yeah, he's weed whacking. I don't fucking know what he's doing. I think, like I said, so I think he you maybe had someone dispose of the guns,

but he also could have done it when he was creating his alibi after the fact. He could have done it himself because he went to his mom's house and then talked to the caregiver and then, you know, so it's very possible that he could have done it on his own too. Like, just posing. Okay. So here's my thoughts because I have a lot. I think that there is no question that he absolutely killed his wife and his son.

Agreed. I think that at the point that he brought up the boating accident to law enforcement and said something about it, and don't quote me on this, but it was something along the lines of that, you know, there had been people out to get his son, that it could have been like a retaliation or whatever. Said that he was getting threats. Yeah. To me, that was already his premeditated story

on what he was gonna tell when the police came. I think he already had that set. Agreed. I believe that there were two weapons used to make it appear as if two people were involved. Agreed. I believe that no other person was involved in the killings at all. I also do not believe that anybody else was involved in the disposal of these weapons. I also, I feel the same just saying if there was help, that to me would be the only role that they would play. I don't think, I don't,

I just wanna know what was going through his head when he heard his own voice on Paul's cell phone. Because that obviously was a mistake and he didn't plan for that. He didn't that. When you watch the guy on the stand like when they did the scene of was it like one of the was he a family friend or was he like Paul's friend where he said the one that owned the dog? Yeah, they asked him to identify the voices in the video. Yes, It was a family friend. It was Paul's friend, but it was like a family friend too. And they were keeping his new puppy at their kennels. I would assume this is like a hunting dog training facilities

type of situation is what I got. At the point that he said and identified, it was Alex's voice. When they pan over to him in the video from the courtroom, it was almost to me like his body language was an acknowledgement that it was his voice in fact in the video. And you can't tell me that I believe that he was not aware that there was a video that was on the phone and I believe that he thought that they would never be able to recover anything from that phone in the event

that there was something on it. I wonder why he didn't, because the other thing that caught him up about the phone was the video on, I wanna say Buster's phone or Paul, it could have been Paul's phone with the tree situation and he was wearing the same shirt or something like that. That also caught him up. If you premeditated all of this, as an attorney, you didn't think to like bust up those phones and dispose of those with the guns? I just wonder if he was so narcissistic and arrogant that he thought that what he would

say to law enforcement would just go and that he would never get called up in this. So the more things that we're missing would cause them to look for more. So I'm just wondering if it was kind of like all part of his plan all along. And we have said for forever, anytime we have ever talked about any kind of true crime. Technology will catch you up every single time. Why in 2023? Are we out here committing crimes? time. Why in 2023? Are we out here committing crimes? Why do you think there is not some ring camera, some, you know, security footage on a business building, walking,

like catching you walking down the street walking, like what people have nanny cams, dog cams, like people have all kinds of stuff. And let's not forget, like I was telling you about life 360, where you can see even what someone's batteries all kinds of stuff. And let's not forget, like I was telling you about Life360, where you can see even what someone's batteries percentage is. So like, you can't even sit here and be like, oh, well, I never got that text, my phone died.

Well, according to Life360, your phone never died. 100%. So I also thought something else was really strange in this documentary was the way that was the housekeepers named Gloria. The one that passed away, but then there was a second one named Blanca. Was she the one that was in this video talking about how it was completely weird that Maggie's pajamas were laid out in the way that they were?

That was Blanca. If you look at, I don't know if that was like photo evidence of how these pajamas were laid out, but it was as if someone like methodically laid these, like I would never, if pajamas were ever on my floor at any point in my home, they would never be like perfectly laid. My kids were laying their outfits out on the floor like for school.

And I was like, can y'all stop putting them on the floor like that? Like you can literally lay them out like that on your dresser or like hang them. Like it creeps us out. Yeah, I'm just like, you know, we walk on the floors, the animals walk on the floors, like there's dog hair on the floor.

Like no, like just like put them up. I can't imagine an adult woman laying them out on a hardwood floor like that. And I just didn't make like, but why? Like, I just, I don't, I don't understand. And I also would just like to know like possible motive on why this happened, like why he felt the need to kill his wife and his son. Like, what exactly was going on leading up to what happened for him to go to that extreme? Like what was he trying to?

I think what I got from, I know you hear that. And was the money play? I know you hear that. Listen to that weed wacker. Remember when we used to record like a way long time ago and we would hear weed whacking all the time. It might have been will but it might have been like your landscapers. Yeah.

And it's like, the fuck are you doing? This just reminisce. The weeds can wait. I think what I got from season two, like the whole thing was that Alec was getting, he got voted out of his own family's law firm. And so like the whole, I don't wanna call it like a reign or like a dynasty, but like the whole, like the family name was being closed in on

because of, you know, him and his son's carelessness. And I think that he was trying to essentially save his family name and be like, and take away the heat from like the boating incident is what I got from it. I don't know if that is accurate or maybe I was like, maybe Kristen, if she watched it, I feel like there was like more to it than that. Because I think that I'm so sick and twisted. I'm just wondering if it was like something to do with some type of money play in the event. Like, did he have life insurance on them?

And was there like a possible life insurance policy that he could have cashed in on within being dead? Like, I just wish that I knew more details and exactly what was going on in that family that led up to that. But just for clarity purposes on my end, the son that he killed, Paul, that is the one that was in the boating accident. It was the one that was careless, correct?

Mm-hmm, yes. Okay. So Buster was essentially the favorite is what I'm getting? Well, I think that he was just less problematic. Okay, but why kill the wife? That's that's something that I don't know. In the event that he just wanted Paul killed and he couldn't get him. This sounds horrible, but like he couldn't off him without Maggie, like

thinking something like maybe he just she was yeah. The fact that Buster sat there and was like I don't think that my dad did this. I know he didn't do this. Um, I'm not an indenial parent and I'm not an indenial child. I know I feel that I would, I would have no problem implicating my mom if I thought that she actually did something like. But I think that when you have high profile families and stuff like this happens and you have multiple children, you're going to have a, that's lots of personalities that are going on, right?

And I would imagine that Paul would have been the opposite of Buster and probably was way more aware of the stuff that his dad did and was not in a state of denial as Buster was. Yeah, he probably sees nothing wrong with what, you know, he, his dad is his hero in his eyes, where like Paul probably would have been more like my dad's not perfect kind of thing. I just want to address one more thing about this documentary and then we can move on. I feel really bad for what was that guy's name that got accused of like being in the money laundering. I wanna say his name was Curtis.

Let me Google it really quick before. I think it's Eddie. Didn't he go by Eddie? Curtis Edward Smith. So he might go by Eddie, but I knew Curtis was somewhere in there. So Curtis- I just wanna talk about that a little bit

because I think it's very common and prominent families for them to hire people who are from a different socio-economic background. Who will trust them. Who will trust them and who feels like they are, they have some type of pull on people who have less and the people who have less are more likely to do stuff for these families that have all of this access to stuff. And what they do is these prominent families prey on people like that who have absolutely nothing, who they can pay set amount of money to that these people probably wouldn't be able to make this money any other way.

And they are vulnerable to these wealthy families. And I felt so bad for this guy because I feel like he was not very aware of what was going on. And I feel like he was just doing everything at Alec's direction, thinking that what he was doing was possibly legal. And he even said multiple times that that was family to him. He looked at Alec as a brother. So and maybe Alec didn't look back

at him as a brother. He knew that that was like essentially his bitch. Yeah. Well, and I think that that's very common when you have So sad because he I think he was already being accused of like drugs and things like that. And you know, whatever he was, whatever demons he was already battling on his own. Alec and the Murdoch family, some of them, kind of weaponized that and used it against him. Like they took advantage of a vulnerable person and continued to like weaponize it. They did the same thing to Alec's mom, the woman who was the caretaker for his mom. And he thought that he could convince her to say that He was there for 45 minutes also as an attorney

What the fuck are you doing? Had you not said anything at all? She could have said He was here 20 minutes 30 minutes and they were and they could have asked her like are you positive? That he was only there for 20 or 30 minutes. And at that point, she would have had to say, no, I don't know that for sure. But because he said, make sure you say that I was here for 45 minutes, now that's going to stick out in her mind. Like, are you stupid or are you dumb? But you got not a crime in itself, like by, by leading a possible witness or would it not have been considered a crime at that point? I don't know.

Is that like tampering with evidence? I don't know. To me, that would be considered. I just felt bad for her too because you're taking care, you are taking advantage of this woman who has cared for your mother for years and years and has done what you could never do for your mom and then you're gonna turn around and like.

I just hate more than anything to see people who, you know, have this like prominent status. I hate to see them treat people who do not have that, that work for them, um, like disposable. I absolutely hate that these people were very much manipulated by this family. hate that these people were very much manipulated by this family. And it's just disgusting. And I I don't know about this court reporter and them, you know, wanting a new trial, whatever. I can't help but think that there's like some foul play going on with that as well. All right, you guys, you may think credit scores no big deal, but we talk a lot about credit and

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of the stuff that they want us to talk about. The first thing is very taboo to me. And I want to know how you feel about it. I feel like we've kind of talked about strip clubs before. But this listener writes in and says, so how are we all feeling about our husbands going to strip clubs without his wife and only looking and not paying for anything extra? He didn't think that I would care

since we've gone multiple times together and I don't have a problem with it. Sidebar, he's going with his single best friend. I don't like the idea of strip clubs altogether for various reasons. I'm not gonna judge anybody who goes to it or thinks it's okay in their marriage or their relationship.

If it works for you, it works for you. For me, that's just disrespectful to be putting yourself in a situation, to be lusting over another woman, whether you're paying for any extra services or not. Just the thoughts of knowing that extra services are there and you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position. I think that that just leaves room for something to happen, not saying that it's going to. If this is something that you're visiting together as a couple, whether that be in a marriage

or in a relationship, I think that it should be a set rule if you guys are both okay with doing this, that the other person isn't going without the significant other. Also going to do these types of events with single friends. If you're in two different life phases, what might be appropriate for the single friend is not gonna be appropriate for the person

that's in a relationship. So you really have to know your partner to know, is that person gonna have enough self-discipline to be in that environment, to not engage in the things that the single friend might be engaging in? I've personally only ever had one situation with the strip club that people already know about. I've already talked about it where I didn't care because both people were in a relationship. We were home. We said we didn't care. Just don't pay for anything extra.

They did in fact pay for things that were extra. And that bothered me because I felt like, I shouldn't be hearing this from strippers on Twitter. I should be able to, we should be able to trust you guys. Since that incident, I have never had another incident with strip clubs. Like I don't ever go to them and I don't, my partners never really go to them. So it's never been like a real,

like I don't think Elijah and I have ever talked about strip clubs. If he was going to like a bachelorette party, or not a bachelorette bachelor, bachelor party. Yeah, if he was going to a bachelor party, and it was like a strip club situation, and it was like a group of people. I feel like I'd be like, alright, whatever, like, I don't care. But you know, I don't know that I would. It varies by couple. I don't have I don't want to give advice because what works in our relationships doesn't necessarily work for everybody. And

you know, if she didn't care, he didn't think I would care and we've gone multiple times together and I don't have a problem with it. Okay. So then, so then there's no, it's fine. I mean, I just, I think it's like a very slippery slope. I can say that I've only been in one relationship where this was relevant. And in this relationship, this person would go with an untrusted friend and this untrusted friend would always rent rooms like when the strip club closed, he would rent private rooms and then crazy stuff happened in these rooms. And so for that, I think you just really have to know your partner and know, like, do you have this level of trust that you're going to be able to trust them in this environment?

If you don't, then I think that that's a conversation that needs to be had. I don't trust you to go to this place. I just, she doesn't sound like she needs our advice. She doesn't need us. Okay. Next, listener says, I came out of a 10 year relationship healed from that recently ventured out into the dating world met the most amazing guy we have had a few small meetups but this week he wants to do dinner. I haven't done a dinner date in 11 years. I have major

anxiety any tips or tricks. And I think it's really hard when you have been in a long term relationship and then try to dip your toes into something that feels so unfamiliar. For me, it was really hard because I was in a relationship post like major social media. Like we had Facebook when we were in college, but that was the extent of it. So there wasn't like Instagram or these dating apps or anything like that. So once I got out of that marriage, it felt like a whole new world out there because I had had no experience in anything that was currently going on. So I can understand why that would be so nerve racking. The best advice I can give you is maybe meet up for like an appetizer and a drink. A dinner is or could be a long term commitment because sometimes those last like pretty

long. And when I first started seeing Trent, we would meet up for like a drink and an appetizer or something that was maybe like a 45 minute or like an hour thing and then go along our way. And so it didn't feel so heavy. And we were meeting and sitting like out of, I don't want to say at a bar, but it was at a bar, but not like a shady bar. You know what I mean? Like it was like an upscale place where we could just get an appetizer, get a drink. And there was no pressure on like ordering meals and waiting for that to come. And then like, what do you do after it's like, Hey, I have an hour.

Do you want to go grab a drink and grab an appetizer? And then you just commit to that. And I feel like you get to know each other in smaller doses versus trying to like, I don't know, dinners to me can just like seem so stiff sometimes. I've never done like the whole like dating situation and part of it is my anxiety and part of it is just like, I feel like they can be awkward. And sometimes you have to do those little like group outings or like what you're describing it like a like a bar because it's it's less intimate and more like social, I feel. And so you get to know them a little bit more. So then you have more to talk about at dinner, like you have

follow up questions you have, you know, you can check in with maybe something they told you at like the appetizer and drinks versus like sitting down at a dinner and there might be like awkward silences if you go somewhere that might take a long time like I don't know about y'all but Alash and I went out to dinner not that long ago and I texted Chris in and I was like, it took over an hour for our food to come out. And I was like, and it was just like a basic chain restaurant. And I

was like, I could not in my head, I was like, and it was just like a basic chain restaurant. And I was like, I could not, in my head, I was like, if this was like a first date or something, how fucking awkward would that be? Like having to make conversation and like, I don't know. Like somebody can talk to anyone, but I'm not one of those people. Here's my other thing. Like I also wanted to be like mindful and respectful

that, okay, we're going to get a drink and an appetizer. I'm not going to have you paying for a dinner for me at this point because I don't know if we are compatible like that. And I don't want you like wasting your finances on me if we aren't like, if we can't even carry on a conversation as long as an appetizer, right? And so I just wanted to be super mindful of that. But when we started dating, I always had a friend around like my girlfriend Tori or Callie or Caroline.

Like at one point he was like, are we ever going to do something like just us because he would show up somewhere and my girlfriend would be there. Well, it's just easier to print. It's just easier that way. I've always done it that way. And I don't, I've had people say that to me too, but it's just like, it's just weird. Also my friends are vetting you by the way.

Right. Like I need to know if what I'm saying is actually happening or do I have rose colored glasses on? Correct. And so we did that for probably about two and a half months where there was no like going to each other's houses. There was no like, we didn't kiss like no physical touch, like nothing at all, like a hug at the beginning, a hug at the end. Um, my friends were like, okay, you actually need to date this guy. And I'm like, okay, fine. Like, I guess I'm gonna do it. I'll do it. Yeah. But I just wanted to like, not that everybody needs to be vetted. That's not what I want it to sound like. But at the same time, I just feel like if you're gonna invest finances in a situation, you're gonna invest your heart

and your emotions in a situation, you need to go through those smaller little moments before you get to the bigger stuff to make sure that you're truly compatible. Agreed. I did wanna say that a listener who listens to Graphic Ammos podcast had a little update for us

for the Donovan ice cream social at the elementary school. She says, Hi, Kitty Yang, listening to today's episode and my jaw dropped when I heard Kale Lindsay talk about ice cream Fridays at Donovan. This is my daughter's school. It was an absolute shit show for two days and it infuriated so many of us. The school created a page for donations to pay off the negative balances and this amazing woman named Ms. Jade who owns a soul food restaurant in Middletown, Ohio paid for the entire, I'm gonna cry, paid for the entire school. It was amazing. The situation definitely should have been avoided or could have been avoided. But Ms. Jade really did something amazing

for our kids and our community. I could cry right now because I was like, wow, that was so cute. And I'm so glad that there are people who will just like hear problem solved. But I do think that if the schools are hosting something like this and they're setting the stipulation,

if you have this overdue balance or whatever, you're not gonna be able to participate. Maybe them using the PTA to try to fund for stuff like this would be advised so that children don't feel like they're left out. Like that's not fair during their school day, that they're not being able to participate in something because finances doesn't allow them to. You know what we should do for copy from coffee combos? Like coffee combos cares type of situation? Yeah, I was just thinking this. Whether it be, you know, for the new year or maybe next school

year, we should call and see if we can pay off the balances of negative lunch accounts. Yeah. Like, hey, we don't need to know who's it is, but where can we pay off negative balances for this elementary school? Because I know that Kristen had said, just a little bit on the coffee combos, cares, we want to be able to give back more, but it's hard to know like exactly where we should be giving to and what the needs are. And I know that we talked about in the new year that we were going to be able to have some type of link or something to where people can put like their needs in and then we can select somebody once a month to be able to give back. And so I think that doing stuff like this is going to be great come 2024. Yeah. So I just wanted to give that little update.

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And I, because it's circulating right now. Um, so this girl, and she's 10 years old, she got suspended from her school bus for the second time for bullying. So she told her dad, dad, you're going to have to take me to school. And he's like, no, I'm not, you're gonna walk. So he followed behind her. This parent messaged me on Instagram. Are you shitting me? No, I literally have the messages in my Instagram where dad, yeah, sent me a message on Instagram. Well, so the dad, did you see the video or no? Yeah, it's, it's like him driving in the car,

right? And a little child walking. Yeah. Yeah. And basically, he says in the dad, did you see the video or no? Yeah, it's it's like him driving in the car, right? And a little child walking. Yeah. And basically, he says in the video, like, other parents may not agree with me. But this is what we're going to do to solve the problem. And there, there more people were in favor of what he was doing solely for the fact that one, it teaches her that like, getting on the bus is a privilege. Like that's a privilege through the school, not even through your parents, like that's a privilege through the school, not even through your parents.

Like that's a privilege through the school. Number one, bullying is not acceptable. And you know, three, she, he was following behind her, but wait, he messaged you? Yeah, I have the message like on my, I'll have to go through like my messages. What, what was the gist of like what he said? Just like something interesting to cover on the podcast.

And I was like, I'm actually gonna talk about this on coffee combos because I felt like that was a great response to, I thought that was a great parenting response. I actually got upset with, there were few and far between, of course, people who said that that wasn't a punishment that fit the crime, I very much disagree. I feel didn't, that wasn't a punishment that fit the crime. I very much disagree. I felt like the punishment fit the crime. I

absolutely do too. Like if you want to do something disrespectful that we do not promote in our household, and you are essentially traumatizing another child on this school bus, your school bus privilege has now been revoked. And I'm not about to put a bandit on it and take you to school, I'll follow behind you while you walk. How does the punishment not fit the crime in that scenario when the child was using the school bus to get to and from school and then they do something to get

their rights revoked from being able to use that form of transportation? Yep. By putting your child in your vehicle to get them to and from school. Would basically be like, okay, you can't ride the bus because you did this, but I'm still going to give you the transportation in my car. No, you're going to use your legs. So this video, for those of you who haven't seen it, we can post it on Coffee Compos Instagram page. But this video is the dad driving behind his daughter as she is walking to school,

making sure that she arrives there safely, but also instilling that what she did was absolutely wrong and she was gonna pay a consequence for what she did because she no longer can get on the bus and I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I also, knowing firsthand, I'm trying to tell y'all if you are not at the teenage phase yet,

they are so much more difficult than toddlers. Like toddler, we think that the toddler, the toddler phase is like insane. No, wait till you get like the preteen teenage years where they think that they're invincible, they can test their boundaries, they can do all of this. We're not, you know, you have to put your foot down. And sometimes you have to take extreme measures like this.

And if it wasn't for this specific video, I don't think that I would have ever thought of that. I mean, my kids don't have a choice to ride the bus right now, but because they're school-choiced, but if they don't get straightened up, I'll make them walk, I'll follow behind them anyway.

Like we, you know, and then they probably had to get up way earlier for school because she had to walk five miles. Listen, when I decided that I was not going to do schoolwork in eighth grade, we lived in a neighborhood that was walking distance from, to and from the school. Mm-hmm. When I decided that I was evidently not going to do my work, and I had to go in early for tutoring,

my dad absolutely told me to jack it up and to walk because Julie was not going to drive one child at one time and one child at another time because of my negligence. So my ass definitely put on a jacket, put on a hat, put on my backpack and took my ass to school for tutoring because that was my problem. You're giving me ideas because one of my children got a not great letter grade on their home access and I'm just like, I'm just out of loss because you have already lost all your privileges. Like, I don't know what to do at this point when you're literally fucking around for what? You're fucking around so that you can find out, evidently.

I can't believe this dad messaged you. I need to hear, I need to, I mean, I'll go on there and try to screenshot the message if I can find it. Um, what is this deal about this teacher that was put on leave after, uh, the school finds out that she's on only fans. Okay. I am torn about this because we know that teachers are overworked and underpaid and I'm torn about this because while know that teachers are overworked and underpaid and I'm

torn about this because while I understand that a teacher is a professional that is held to a different standard than like I would say me because like my podcasting doesn't necessarily affect children than I'm teaching so it's a little different, but we have to keep in mind that these are also humans. Teachers are serving, doing DoorDash, doing Instacart, because they cannot pay their bills on teacher salaries. So we need to keep that in Missouri was put on leave after they found her only fans account. She says, I'm very aware that I'm probably never going to teach again. And she's sad about that because she misses her students. She was in her second year of teaching and she was put on leave and her access to email and other school software was revoked. This is all in the article on USAToday.com

so I can post this link. But she said the legal counsel said that there is an expectation that teachers should be should be the moral leaders of students and I do not disagree with that. He says I taught the curriculum, I taught students reading, writing, and I didn't guide them on my thoughts or beliefs. So I just don't know. What exactly was going on on the only fans, I guess that was in question. Like, was this a male teacher, a female teacher? It was a female teacher. And she completely separated her personal life outside of teaching.

And she said that she only joined only fans during the summer to supplement her teaching salary, which was her teaching salary was around 42,000 last year. But she was making an additional eight to 10,000 per month performing on the website. It did not say what type of content. It was just that no inappropriate content was filmed on the school grounds. So whatever content that was, it was strictly to supplement her income. And it wasn't anything like she wasn't doing it at school. She wasn't like soliciting minors. She wasn't encouraging her students to pay for this. So like in some ways I do very much understand, but on the other hand, like I know for a fact

I have very I have two very good friends who are teachers and they're not even supposed to post in their bikinis on Facebook on their private Facebook pages. They're not supposed to post in their bikinis. So like where is the line? But also we're in the middle of a fucking epidemic of inflation where we don't even know you know what the next thing is. So I am trying to be empathetic of this because I was trying to think like if I'm trying to put myself

in a parental shoes, if I found out that one of Jackson's teachers were on only fans, I guess the only concern would be in the event that the children would have access or be able to see any of this stuff. But it is my belief that what a teacher is doing in his or her personal life, as long as that is not reflecting poorly on their ability to teach inside the classroom and how they are morally guiding these children

in the classroom, then I don't really believe that it should be up to the district for them to decide if this person can do this or if they can't. I have a girlfriend who's actually going through a custody battle right now and is on only fans. And per her court order, she is not allowed to do any only fans content when the child is in her care. She's not allowed to do any only fans content

in the home period. Like she cannot use her home whatsoever where that child lives partially. So it doesn't matter if she has that child lives partially. So it doesn't matter if she has that child at that time or not, cannot use the home. And they are using her income from only fans for her to have to pay child support, but yet she's not allowed to do any of the things,

even if the child was in somebody else's care, let's say. Right, but it's like her custodial time. Yeah, she's still not allowed to do it during her custodial time, but she's having to pay child support based off of her earnings from only fans. That's where I would, that's question, like that doesn't make sense to me. I also want to just say that I misspoke when I was reading this article. It was the teacher that said, there is this expectation that teachers should be the moral leaders of students and I do not disagree with that. I taught the curriculum. I taught students reading and writing

and I didn't guide them on my thought or beliefs. So I just want to say I misspoke on that also really quick before we move on. I she also says in this that she does not regret joining OnlyFans. I know it can be taboo Or some people may believe that it's shameful, but I don't think sex work is to be shameful I just do wish things happen differently Going back to what you were saying about like if you this was Jackson's teacher Again, like I have and I said two friends, but I have three My

Younger kids that are in elementary school don't know what OmniFans is. They probably won't know for years to come. So what my son's kindergarten teacher does in her free time, most likely is not going to affect or impact what Lux or Creed or Lincoln, like they don't know what that is. So they wouldn't find out until later on. Do you know what Lux or Creed or Lincoln, like they don't know what that is. So, and they wouldn't find out until later on.

Do you know what I'm saying? And so like for me, I just, I think that form of like babysitting professional adults in that way, you don't know what they're doing off the internet. It could be far worse than like whatever they're doing on OnlyFans, right? And you just don't have access to that. But because it's the internet and because you have access to it, then you want to do something about it, they could be totally morally corrupt outside of that and be doing heinous things. Like you don't know somebody could be running a train on

that. Like you literally have no idea. So I just think that that's a little unfair. And I, I personally as a mom would not judge a teacher that was doing that at Jackson school would not participate in any type of gossip that was going on about that teacher participating in something like that. What they do on their own personal time, and I can say this because I have one of my best friends was a kindergarten teacher for many years. She's no longer teaching, but was for many years. And I just know the stress that she had even as much as like going out to a restaurant and having to put a alcoholic beverage in a cup that didn't look like it contained alcohol. To me, that's just so far reaching.

They should be able to live their lives as they see fit. And as long as they're coming to that school building appropriately, then we should not be having issue. I agree. It's not like she's showing up to the classroom drinking alcohol in front of the kids and denying it and getting breathless in school, you know, like, well, I think that Collectively coffee combos podcast as a whole you myself and I'm gonna read Kristin statement that she just said we aren't for the bullshit of People fucking with teachers because Kristin said pay them accordingly then if you want to tell them what they can and can't do outside of school Pay them accordingly and then they won't have to do fucking only fans. She literally said it was to supplement her income.

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because you choose not to have to share your kids pretty much all aspects in my life are good. I love my job. My kids are amazing, but I've almost fallen out of love with my husband after explaining to him time and time again what I need, which is for him to show me love, give me a compliment. I never get them ever and nothing ever changes. We can still manage to have good sex, get along for the most part fine, but I feel like he enjoys himself better with other people. And it's like, if it's not about the kids or finances, we don't really have anything to talk about. He is not mean to me.

He has not cheated on me. I haven't, I have dreamt of what it would be like to have a man who loves me and is crazy about me. I have lost lots of trying, crying about it and being heartbroken. But finally, after nothing changed, I gave up bringing it up. And I'm sure I could probably find a man who shows me love, but then I'd only have my kids half the time. I do now, and they already grow up too quickly. How common is this? It's so common that this was my situation.

I think that, unfortunately, you're doing yourself and your kids a disservice. I think it's going to be, well, let me not speak for everybody's children, but you're selling yourself short by staying somewhere where you do not feel wanted and loved and fulfilled. And your kids are going to see how your husband treats you. And they're going to believe that that is how all relationships go and that's how what should be accepted and that that is the, what is the word I'm looking for?

That is the precedence, is that? My biggest concern was that Jackson was going to see what we did and think that that was normal. And in no sense is that normal and what love should look like. And I think a lot of times when you have parents who stay together strictly because of the children, it creates a generational pattern

that your children are going to likely engage in and they're gonna be in unhappy situations and they're gonna stay for the wrong reasons. Yeah, I've seen it. Let's just be let's just be clear in that everyone deserves to be truly fulfilled and truly happy and where your husband won't do certain things someone else will and you are right. There will be someone there will be a man woman whoever that will absolutely treat you the way that you deserve to be treated and love you the way that you deserve to be loved. And not saying that that's going to come easy, not going to say that that's going to come

without hard work, but there is absolutely like yesterday, I did not feel good at all when I got home, right? Like I was just like, I don't feel good. I my face was flushed. I didn't know what was going on to the kids at diarrhea. I'm like, if I'm coming down with something, I don't have time for this. Elijah packed up the little kids and left the house so that I could lay down in bed for a couple hours before I had to start the bedtime routine.

I don't know what the, where the hell they went, what the hell they did, but he packed up the kids. And that's such a blessing. And that's just the way like he knew that I was like kind of tapped out, burnt out my other relationships that would have never happened. That would have never been, it would have been like I'm being dramatic or it would have been an eye roll or it would have been, you know, a resent, you know, resenting me because, you know, I, I can't do something with the kids right now.

And then we came together and did bath time and got them to bed and things like that. But everyone deserves that. Everyone deserves that. Everyone deserves to feel wanted, to feel loved, appreciate it and appreciated. And I think when you're staying in a marriage that you know that you are ultimately not happy, you've got to remember. And this was something that my nanny told me whenever I was going through the process of deciding if I should get out of that marriage. She told me two things. She said, don't sit

around and waste pretty on somebody who does not deserve it. And she told me that your child is going to grow up and go about his own life. And if you stay in something that neither of you want to be in, you're going to be sitting looking at each other years down the road, having absolutely nothing in common, and you're going to be miserable. So do the hard work now so that you can enjoy your future later. And on the part about you don't want to lose your children half the time, that is very understanding. I think that every parent that goes through the process of should I stay, should I go? And you're basically hinging this decision on your children.

I think that's a very common thing to do. Yeah, I absolutely did that because I did not want to lose Jackson 50% of the time. And I think that I've said before, I would have divorced long before I did, but I didn't feel that Jackson was in a place to be able to go in between homes at that time. And I did not make that decision until I felt that he was at an age that he would be okay. And that is a really hard pill to swallow and it's a very heavy burden, but wouldn't you rather have your kids 50% of the time in the event that that is the custody arrangement?

50% of the time, them saying you happy and 50% of the time, them saying their dad happy because they're gonna be way more fulfilled children if they are getting two happy homes versus one home that is not happy. Agreed. I also just wanna add on that. I get a lot of shit for leaving relationships

and getting into other ones. And I tell my kids, they know this. If you ask them without me in the room, why does your mom have all these baby dads? Mom doesn't stay where she's not happy, period, point blank. And I'm proud of you for that. Actually, somebody asked me on Instagram question, I did a Q and A yesterday and they asked me,

how did I finally decide to take the plunge and go through with, might have worse? And I said, when I realized that no matter what, it was beyond repair and I was willing to go into a hard season for long-term happiness, my nanny always told me, don't sit around and waste pretty on someone. I ran with that and grateful for that season of hard season for long-term happiness. My nanny always told me don't sit around and waste pretty on someone.

I ran with that and grateful for that season of hard because it taught me a lot and I no longer live in fear of failing. Period. I'm so glad you have nanny in your life. And on that note, we all need a nanny. Nanny said that she's everybody's nanny. She does.

And I don't know how I feel about that. You're like, I don't wanna share her, but like I'll share her a little bit. Like a little. But not like all the time. No're like, I don't want to share her, but like I'll share her a little bit. Like a little. But not like all the time. No. Okay, so foul play. This didn't happen to me,

but it happened to my best friend a few years ago. Oh, so you're outing her. She's like, hold on, let me tell someone else a story real quick. She and her husband are into a lot of different sex stuff and they're always trying new things and doing new things. So she went to her in-laws for a weekend and they decided to bring their over-the-door swing. They told his parents they were going to take a nap so they could test out their latest product. That just sounds like a really

bad idea. That sounds like a very ballsy move. That is so like that is like in your head you are waiting to get caught kind of thing like you're just I can't. But there are some people that like to do things for the thrill, you know, oh, yeah, yeah, could this have been that had to be. She said they got started and all all way great. All went great. She said they got started and all went great until the door fell off the frame and landed in the hallway. Of course, with all the noise, her mother,

her mother-in-law walked back into the hall to see her naked and tangled to the door on the floor and her husband standing there naked with a boner. Nila's to say they ended their weekend. She bit short and drove back home. She said to this day, it's still awkward when they go stay and they definitely don't bring anything extra with them. Thank you ladies and thanks for, oh, love you ladies and thanks for keeping life interesting. You know what? I'm never doing anything like

that. Listen, when you started reading about this swing, I was like immediately like they like busted the door frame or the door fell off because you know, like those little bouncy swings that you can hang for like little kids. Yeah. That's happened to me before with like one of those. So I'm like, that definitely happened with a sex swing. And I just could not imagine being ballsy enough to go into a mother-in-law's home and be having sex on a swing. Like I don't feel comfortable having sex and sex and now I have so I'm not even gonna lie. I'm not saying I've never done it, but it's definitely not.

It's not. Yeah, it's like, you know what? Be self aware enough to know that like you're going to your in-laws like do the deed before you go and call it a day. Like I'm not trying. No, the most embarrassing thing about like doing something like that at your in-laws is like, okay, you need to go and get a towel because if you are, God, I'm just gonna say it, like if you're wet, and it's like on the

sheets, and you wake up and you just like have to strip the sheets, like, they immediately know something happened. Like no normal is just stripping the sheets because you slept there one night. Yeah, that's, yeah. You know, know, it's like, it's just like kind of icky. And like they know what you're doing. Yeah, they weren't born yesterday. They may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night. And just like naked with a boner.

But like for your mother-in-law to see you naked on the floor in this like contraption, I like, how do you come back from that? I'm never going over it again. I'm never gonna see her again. Like ever. Even when like my mother-in-law used to come and like spend the night with us at our house,

I'm like, this is a no sexual tonight. Like your mom's here and I don't want her to hear or think anything. And in fact, leave our bedroom door, and I don't want her to hear or think anything. And in fact, leave our bedroom door open because I don't want her to think that we're like behind these closed doors doing something that we should be doing. But like, it's our parents, you know, like my dad used to say, nobody's fucking in my house. I don't be here.

I don't even think they're fucking. It would never even cross my mind to have sex at Todd Chrisley's house. I don't come up in here and think that you're fucking. It would never even cross my mind to have sex at Todd Crisley's house. That would never even be an option, a thought, a nothing. I'm pretty sure all of his kids have. Oh. I know for a fact three out of the five. I don't need to know about your sibling sex campaigns. Could you think of the three? Do you think that you, you, Kyle and Chase? No. What? No.

Two of those are correct. One is wrong. Kyle, Chase and Savannah. No. The boys, Kyle, Jason, Grayson. Kristen goes Grayson. No. I just, he's still a baby in my head. Like I don't know of him to be an adult, so. No. Why are you looking at me like that?

It's me, Chase, and Savannah. Not Kyle? Wow. Okay. Wow. That really surprised me. Go us. Go team.

Go team. Go team. Okay. Why do I always get the waxing ones? Actually, somebody asked me on my Instagram Q&A the other day, they were like, so are you ever going to go and see the same wax place? And it's like, yeah, obviously, I've already been back. Like, you can't traumatize me bad enough. Okay, so this person says a few years ago, I worked as an esthetician at European Wax. One of my regulars came in her for her Brazilian and when I went to wax her, I noticed she had recently had her, is that her vagina pierced? Her lip pierced? Yeah, like her hood probably. Wait, her what? Her hood. What's that? Just keep reading. No,

what is that? Google it later. It's like the the hood on like over your clip. Okay, I'm gonna Google what that is. Um, I can't I did my best work around it. But when I was waxing one of her labia is the wax went on the piercing without me know, oh, God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't. I ripped the I ripped the wax strip thinking nothing of it. I turned to get more wax for the other labious strip. And when I turned back around, I noticed blood all over her badge. To my horror, I realized that her piercing got ripped out during the last wax pull.

I went silent for a second and then looked in the trash at the last piece and found the piercing stuck to the wax. I told her what happened and thankfully she was cool about it. I would not be cool about this. No, I would. No. She asked me if I could put it back in and I felt so bad about what happened that I did. Thankfully her skin didn't tear the ring was just force forcefully ripped out hence all the blood. We laughed about it and moved on but I was definitely traumatized for the rest of the day. I love you ladies and the podcast so much. My question is at the point that she investigated her vagina, why didn't she say, hey, can you remove that? Like I feel like that's a waxer error.

Maybe they don't have to typically remove it because it's like in a place that typically doesn't have hair because she said that she didn't know that there were like she didn't notice the wax had gotten on it like so maybe it was in because I think don't quote me on this you can get it like this or you can get it like this maybe the way that she was pierced didn't necessarily need to be waxed so I'm just saying that I was an esthetician which I'm not so like obviously I know that so everyone don't tell me Lindsay you're not so don't tell us what to do.

I'm just saying if I was in that situation, I would have, because I would just assume that there could be possible chance for error. Like just remove it anyway, because I don't trust myself with a stick. But then so shouldn't, don't you feel like the client should have removed it? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like you should remove it. Like the esthetician should have asked the client should have removed it? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like you should remove it.

Like the esthetician should have asked the client to remove it. But also the client should have just, like anytime I used to have my tongue pierced, like when I got it done when I was in high school and then I just had it. What have you not had pierced, honestly? True.

So well, I haven't had my clip pierced. Whenever I would go to the dentist, I would take it out because I just felt something Appropriate to do and I didn't have to wait for and like I got braces and I also had my tongue pierced every orthodontic appointment I would take my tongue ring out because they just yeah, like that was you know I don't one I didn't really want them to ask me to take it out And I just felt like I knew that that was something that was needed to be done. Yeah.

So I just feel like the client should have, oh, I'm going to get waxed. I should probably take out my fucking piercing. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Listen, some people just, I don't want to talk about this person. Common sense. I don't even know them, but like common sense is not common. And evidently, people being self sense is not common and evidently people being

self aware is not a common thing either. So on that note, I'm going to get back to my housework. Perfect. If you need anything, please let me know. And if you guys want to follow us on Instagram, where we're going to be posting all the links to this bullshit. Follow us on at coffee combos podcast. And if you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app, wherever you get your podcasts, always first at podcast one. I hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See you.

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