Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Rabbit Holes & Never Going Back
Episode Date: June 1, 2023CC288: Lindsie and Kail are barely holding on as the school year wraps up, and Kails describes a disturbing interaction she witnessed this morning on the way to school. Tiktok sucks Kail into a realit...y TV rabbit hole of Kim and Kroy, former cast members of RHOA; Lindsie shares what she has heard through the grapevine on the subject. A listener asks if anyone ever dated someone who was perfect but somehow feel like there was no deep connection - Kail relates. Another listener asks how someone can leave the house when they have so much stuff to do at home - and Lindsie DEFINITELY relates. Lastly, advice for someone who is divorcing an abusive husband, what to expect and how to prepare. For Foul play, we are reminded that peeing in a cup is never sanitary. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors!IQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000Kiwico: Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/COFFEENutrafol: Go to Nutrafol.com and use code COFFEECONVOS for $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shippingQuince: Discover the affordable luxury you deserve, go to Quince.com/coffee to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order
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This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley.
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That does not interest me whatsoever.
I feel very attacked by you.
A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
I'm just not with a bakery anymore.
There's a bakery bakery around here.
Here's Kale and Lindsay.
Good morning, Lindsay.
I thought you were gonna sing for a second. I was getting so excited.
Good morning. My Nashville, one of my Nashville shirts, so that I'm I'm basically with you in spirit, you know. I am wearing a crop top, a pair of leggings, a matching bra, which is like super cute.
Look at this thing.
That's so cute.
The boobs are boobin.
The boobs be boobin, honey.
Um, got to tell you something though.
Okay.
And I think it's called like phantom pregnancy.
I might have made this up.
I might have coined this on my own.
But I just puked my guts out before we got on here
and my nipples feel like they're gonna fall off. So why are you so quiet?
Ma'am, what makes you think it's phantom? What is phantom about that?
I don't know. You know, it's like when you're starting to expect your cycle and your boobs like
regularly hurt when you get a period. Mine don't. I wonder how many women do and then don't.
And do we all get freaked out when they like extremely hurt
but then get our period and we're like,
oh, it's just going to be a bad one.
Or do you get freaked out when they don't hurt that month
and you know you're about to get your period?
I've never gotten boob pain in my life,
except for when I was finding out
that I was pregnant with Lux,
literally had Chris unhook my bra
in the middle of New York City,
because I took him to New York for the first time
and we were walking my boobs hurt.
That is the only time my boobs ever hurt
in my entire life, so very curious to know.
And I think you should take a pregnancy test.
We're starting rumors. I feel like this has gone from this podcast to the Southern tea.
Because we're spilling tea over here today. We are. We're spilling tea. I will say though, I ate chicken
before we started recording and I'm wondering if the chicken's what made me sick.
I have like this mystery like illness going on.
Like I don't know what it is.
You're glowing though.
Like as soon as you popped on here,
I'm like while Lindsay's glowing,
I look like a rag doll.
I don't know what's happening.
So I listen, I'm not saying you're pregnant, but...
I could kind of do a baby bump though. I wouldn't be mad if you were
I
Went to Jackson school
Awards day today. Yeah, and I just think it's so funny to like see your kids get awards and
What you think they'll get an award for and what they actually got an award for
and what you think they'll get an award for and what they actually got an award for. What did he get?
Okay, well, he got an award for Stylen and Cheese and Award.
He's always smiling and always styling.
And he was not happy about this award at all.
He was like, I really want a class athlete.
Like that was really what I was going for.
Like that was the one that I wanted.
And he was like, I can play five sports.
So why is the person that won, only play one sport?
And I don't even consider it a sport.
And I'm like, well, just because you don't consider it
a sport doesn't mean that it's not.
Well, what sport was it?
Soccer.
OK, that's very much a sport, but also he has a point.
Like, why is the one that is not, like,
when I think of class athlete or student athlete,
I'm thinking of the one that is in multiple sports.
That's, I mean, he's very correct.
Jackson's like, I can play tennis.
I can play golf. I can play golf.
I can play basketball.
I've played baseball before.
I've also played soccer, but I didn't like it,
but I can still do it.
And I didn't win class athlete.
And I said, buddy, I love the award that you won.
Like, I love it.
Todd, I know that also.
Todd Chrisley would absolutely love it.
He would be like, great also. Todd Chrisley would absolutely love it. He would be like great representation
of the Chrisley family. And the funny thing is when the tea, like they were all sitting on the
class mat in the front and when the teacher was like, you can go to your parents and stuff,
Jackson walks over with his award and he's like, I really just wanted class athlete. And I'm like
with his award and he's like, I really just wanted class athlete.
And I'm like, calm down, like we're not doing that
at the awards, you know, like you got an award,
you should be happy about it.
And you also got like a reading award and a math award.
So obviously like to be styling, cheese in,
to be able to read and have a math award,
like, sweetie, you're doing good
because I didn't get any of those awards.
I didn't get any, you know, and in fourth grade,
I wanted my perfect attendance awards so bad,
but I had one tardy on my thing
and they didn't give me top student for it.
So, you know, it's just, I didn't get those types of awards.
He should be so fucking pumped that he got three awards.
Do you know that only one kid in that class
got an
attendance award? One. And it made me so happy. Why? Number one, because we've talked about before
that I think it should be normalized that we can take mental health days. Our children can take
mental health days and that we should have be burning ourselves out. And if you're going to school and you're in a complete burnout moment, just so that you
can get a perfect attendance award, because I do feel like that was very common for kids
that grew up in the 90s.
I don't know if it was before, but for us, it was like, you have to go to school because
if you don't, then you will not be eligible for the perfect attendance award.
And it's like I'm glad that you care about that so much
because quite honestly,
that has nothing to do with anything in life.
Well, I mean, at this point,
because I used to be one of those people
who wouldn't let my kids take mental health days,
I just didn't see it that way.
But this past year, I've been way more
flexible about it because I mean, for one, I have my own feelings about like the public education
system and kind of putting everybody in a box and expecting every single kid to do the same exact
thing. And you know, teachers get personal days. I mean, not as many as they should, they should
get far more.
So the kids should get them too, you know, and the year is winding down. We still
have a think like three weeks of school left and my kids are just wild. Like,
Lux is asking to go in the pool after school and I'm like, no, we still have to do
homework. We still have to do baseball. We still have all the shit to do that we
can't do like fun things after school. But it definitely feels like
the end of the year. That's why I like our schedule better than states, like northern
states, because we do start so much earlier, and I guess you all don't start until what
after Labor Day? We used to start like two years ago, we were still starting in August,
the end of August. But this year, we started after Labor Day, which was weird, because that hasn't been always that way.
Yeah, so we start, literally, I think July 31st or something, was like the first day, or August
1st. And it's so nice, because the pool, like, just opened two weeks ago, and we've had a couple
of, like, little pool afternoons. and it's nice that if he was in school
for like the whole month of almost June,
I don't know what I would do.
But anyway, Jackson walks up and he's like,
Dad, I just want to let you know
that you're not the reason that I won this award.
He then lifts up his sweatshirt
and he goes, do you see this shirt that you made me wear to school today?
Not the reason.
And my God.
He's like, moms the reason that I won the style and award
because of the Jordans.
Period.
Go off, Jackson, because I was like, yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
We're looking are the same with their freaking shoes.
Same. I think it's so funny. Speaking of school. Yes, looking are the same with their freaking shoes. The same.
I think it's so funny.
Speaking of school, so I'm driving to, first of all,
let me start by saying that Lux and Creed
have both been sleeping in my bed.
Creed is just a co-sleeper.
I'm tired of getting up in the middle of the night
to go put him back in his bed when he's just a co-sleeper,
right? So that's how we solved that. Well, night to go put him back in his bed when he's just a coastleaver, right?
So that's how we solved that.
Well, now that Creed has been sleeping in my bed and I've been putting him to bed in my
bed, now Lux is back in my bed.
It's fine.
It's fine.
You know, I should take turns switching back and forth to the couch, either I'll be on
the couch or he'll be on the couch.
It's fine.
We don't care.
So, I wake him up this morning.
Lux. I'm taking him to school and we are behind every fucking bus
There is known to me on the way to Smurna school
So I'm actually really sad because I see this bus that I've never seen before stop because either we either are before it or after whatever
I miss it for whatever reason
see these these cute little kids get on the bus
and all of a sudden I see this little girl come
from like I'm going this way, the bus is coming this way
and I see this little girl and her mom following behind her.
And you know how they have that like stick
that comes out and the stop sign that comes out?
Yeah.
So directly in front of that, the mom pushes the daughter.
Just shoves her like straight on this is main street and heartly Delaware
Straight just shoves her daughter and has this look of like you are the pain of my existence to her daughter
And it was the weirdest fucking thing so then I'm like that can't be right
Like I couldn't have just seen what I just saw. And like, nobody said anything, nobody did anything.
Like, why is this being normalized?
Like, yeah.
And so she's carrying, the mom is carrying the daughter's backpack.
So I'm like, okay, this is just, I don't know,
maybe the daughter is on the spectrum
and she has to help her, I don't know.
So then the mom gets on the bus with the backpack and the daughter.
Mm-hmm.
And we're just waiting.
Then the mom gets off the bus. So she takes the bus, she takes the backpack and the daughter. And we're just waiting. Then the mom gets off the bus.
So she takes the bus,
she takes the backpack on the bus for the daughter.
And when I tell you that she gets off the bus,
and it's just like, okay, maybe she had a bad morning.
I get it, but you just shoved your daughter in public
in front of a bus.
And I just don't, and like so upset by it,
because I've never seen anything like it.
That's so alarming to me when you see people
get aggressive with their children publicly.
It's like the fact that you're doing this publicly,
terrifies me to know what you're doing privately.
Right, exactly.
And that's why I think I'm sick about it,
because I'm like, and the fact that nobody,
I mean, maybe the bus driver saw it and we'll report it.
I don't know.
But Lux was in my car.
I'm glad he didn't see it.
You know what I mean?
Because he was sitting behind me.
I'm so glad he didn't see it.
Because if he would have asked me questions,
I wouldn't have known what to say.
Yeah, no.
That is just crazy.
And I also will say, as a parent, sometimes the mornings
can be so stressful when you have stuff to do and stuff is chaotic
and you're just trying to get your child from point A to point B
and they might be having a rough morning.
Mornings are something that I don't really feed into
any type of negative energy.
Like if Jackson's doing something that he shouldn't be doing,
I'm like, listen, it's morning for both of us.
Like it's morning for you and it's morning for me.
Like you have a job that you have to do and I have a job that I have to do.
And if you can't do your job, it affects my job.
And if I can't do my job, it affects the ability for you to be able to get to where you
need to go.
I always, when I'm pulling through Carpool in the morning to drop off lane. I always am like overly
sensitive of him getting out of the car and I'm like buddy have a good day. I love
you so much. I hope everything goes well. Be a good student, be a kind friend.
And the next statement that I'm about to make literally
And the next statement that I'm about to make literally
Terrifies me and gives me such anxiety that when you drop your children off at school
What if that was your daughter's last memory of you?
That's absolutely heartbreaking and terrifying to think about but it is something that you have to think about and like we both said Like we all have bad days. I get it and warnings could be chaotic. I have a shitload of fucking kids.
I really don't, I would say for me,
nighttime is harder than warning time,
but it's still chaotic nonetheless.
And I cannot imagine that being the last memory
that I have of my daughter or the last memory
my daughter has of me.
It just made me sick.
I hope, I hope hope the situation gets resolved.
I hope the daughter is okay.
I hope the bus driver saw it and reported if she needs to.
I wouldn't even know how to report it
because it's, and I don't know them
and I've never seen them before,
but I just had to talk about it because.
And the last thing I want to say on this
is if that child did need additional assistance,
that further pisses me off.
Right, right.
Like if she was special needs and that's even more alarming.
And if it's just one of those things that's so sad too because if she did need special
assistance, I know that there is like extra care for like I've heard, I've heard and I'm sure it's not available for everyone
because it's the US but like caretakers will come help with people that need extra care
kind of like they do at school or if they have like a like a para on the bus yet for help
or whatever and so I don't, like maybe if she's that frustrated
or having a hard time with her daughter,
I don't know what the resources are that are available to her,
but like maybe that would be an option for help
so that she doesn't get so frustrated.
Well, as in parenthood is so hard,
and the older I get, the more patient I become,
I feel like a lot of it could have to do with Jackson being older and, you
know, more self-sufficient, but also the older I get, the more of an emotional being. I feel
like I am than I was before. And so I'm very sensitive when it comes to him. Speaking of buses,
though, Will told me yesterday, he was like, I was waiting outside, you know, for Jackson to hop off the bus and I see the bus like go cruising by the house and it gets like two houses past.
The normal stop and like the bus isn't stopping so he's like shit like Jackson didn't get on the bus like where is our kid.
So all of a sudden the bus just like comes to a halt and he said every day that Jackson gets off the bus he gritties across the road
and
He was like what happened and he was like, I don't know
I guess my bus driver forgot that I was on the bus and I stood up and said hey, I'm on the bus
And I'm like thank God like that he was paying attention. Hey, I'm on the bus.
Can you imagine, like, will this is why our kids, children
who already have cell phones, I'm like, that's why
they need them in the bag, because if that bus would have kept
going, Will would have thought that Jackson was still at the
school, and he would have gotten in his truck and left.
And then the bus driver would have come back.
It will would have been nowhere to be found
because he would have been looking for Jackson
at the school and Jackson would be home.
Oh my God, I would have freaked the fuck out.
That's like the time that Lincoln,
they sent the fucking kindergartener Lincoln
to the front to the front of the school.
Lincoln went out the back door
and was standing outside the school,
waiting for me to pick him up when he should have went
to the office.
It's like little things like that with these adults
need to just like think for a second. That's why they need air tags in their backpacks.
Right, absolutely.
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Okay, I have to tell you that I went down a fucking rabbit hole.
Okay.
So when I'm depressed, as you know, I'm on my phone less, right?
But last night, Christmas was like, I need you to get on your stories.
I'm like, all right, give me a minute.
Damn, no, I'm just kidding.
I was like, anything for you.
So I did that.
And then I get on TikTok while I'm on my phone.
And I never really followed the Kim and Kroy thing.
I've never been like a what show are they from?
Real Housewives of Atlanta.
I've never followed it.
She had her own show, Don't Be Tarty on Bravo.
OK, yeah.
So I knew I, I a part of those shows, Don't Be Tarty on Bravo. Okay, yeah.
So I knew I, I've heard of those shows, but I've never watched them, right?
So I've never, I knew who they were.
I know who Briel Beermann is.
Never followed their shit.
So all they were getting divorced didn't give a fuck, but then I get to this
TikTok and they're talking about Croy, I guess, motioned for Kim to have an evaluation or whatever, right, a mental evaluation.
And they go into and then didn't say anything more about the mental health evaluation.
So I was like, okay, that's weird.
And she immediately dives into the finances.
I'm down this rabbit hole of this couple that I've never followed in my life.
And I can't stop.
It's like a fucking train wreck that I'm just in,
and now I fully understand why people
were invested in my divorce and everything that I've done
in my life because you get down these fucking rabbit holes
that you can't get out of and I'm just so fascinated.
Well, tell me what you found out.
Okay, so Kim has a severe spending problem
and has like devastated the family financially
She owes this wine company like a $11,000 and this is like there's bank statements on the TikTok
And there's like highlighted whoever did this. I don't know I have the TikTok, but I don't know who did the deep dive
$11,000 is owned to this wine company. And they messaged her saying,
hey, like we've tried six times to, you know,
charge your account, it's being declined.
She's trying to send people money on Venmo,
it's getting declined.
She owes this wine company so much fucking money.
She is spending, it said 130,000 in and out for a month.
Wait what?
$130,000 in and out in one month.
Holy shit.
And then she posted like the wine thing, she's supposed to advertise for them and I guess
they're doing like a courtesy because you've been such like a valuable customer, you know,
we're gonna still send you whatever you ordered.
And then she goes to like a screenshot of Briel posting said wine company on her Instagram.
I think probably to make up for them not paying for it.
But I'm just like, oh, and I guess she has a gambling problem allegedly.
I don't know, like I said, I have no idea.
A gambling problem. There was some other stuff, but I was, oh, and I guess she has a gambling problem allegedly. I don't know, like I said, I have no idea. A gambling problem.
There was some other stuff, but I was just like,
well, there was two things that I saw allegedly,
he's been having an affair,
or like cheating on her with various people.
But then I also saw something that kind of gave an opposite side that she was cheating on him with someone significantly older than him.
And the person that she was allegedly cheating on him with also has tons of money.
She's not getting any because she's not paying her bills.
Well, so we were this all started. I kind of started following this with the foreclosure stuff
that was going on.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
I'm Atlanta native.
So I hear a lot of stuff.
And it's pretty well known that she's
like a heavy spender around Atlanta.
Like that's just a known thing.
And I think that she left real housewives or they didn't ask her back and
then she had her own show Don't Be Tarty and it had like all of her kids on it and her
and Kroy. And then I don't think that that show got renewed. So it was like one season?
No, it was a couple seasons and then it got canceled. Okay. And then I think they
tried to start a podcast, but I don't know like where that went. And then the next thing I hear is this whole foreclosure
stuff and how if
Basically, they don't make these payments that the house is gonna be sold on the court has house steps
for like X amount of dollars. And there was all this social media hoopla that she was going on her story,
saying that her house wasn't being foreclosed on and that she's obviously still there and she's
like videoing in the house and that she wasn't moving and she wasn't leaving until she decided to leave.
So I don't know what happened with the house, but at that point I was like,
okay, obviously there's like financial stuff going on because if you were on real housewives of Atlanta,
probably made a hefty paycheck, had your own show, probably made a hefty paycheck.
You guys also had other projects.
He was a professional athlete,
played for the Falcons.
So I'm like, there was enough money to pay for that home
that they lived in.
Unless they were spending it where they shouldn't have.
I know she was, she has some like Bitcoin situation
that she's still investing into and in the TikTok it was like
if you owe $11,000 to a wine company, why are you investing in this like Bitcoin thing?
And my thought was like maybe she's doing that in hopes that she'll get like a big payday with
that so that she can catch up on her bills. Like maybe that's how she's operating. That's where my
mind instantly went, but I don't know. I mean, I know all of the TikTok world are doing deep dives on their situation.
All I'm going to say is that I believe that if I had to guess, financials definitely are
one of the biggest parts of the issue. And my parents always told me growing up
that finances are the leading cause of divorce.
I guess it would be really hard to imagine, you know,
and I don't want to specify anybody's names,
but you guys will know who I'm talking about.
People who go from TV shows and no other real income outside of like TV show
income and then maybe like brand deals going from that to absolutely no income
because if you at some point you're gonna lose your following to some
degree they're gonna lose some type of interest if you're not on anything if
you don't have a podcast. Are you talking about somebody who is scuba divers certified? Yes. Is she just making
scuba divers service certified? I'm just making sure that like we're on the same page. Yes.
Okay. Okay. That's it. So part of that. I would imagine it could be very difficult
part of it. I would imagine it could be very difficult to take that kind of pay cut, you know, like I took a pay cut when I left Teen Mom, but then, you know, I work really hard on my podcasts
and my brand deals. I want them to be good. I want them to be, you know, just I don't even...
I think here's the problem though. I think that we could do a whole series on reality TV. I think that reality TV and
synivizes such poor behavior that that becomes your norm and also on a lot of
shows that you have built an image that you have to maintain.
You have to maintain.
Yeah.
There's no room for you not to maintain it.
So then I think that that's where a lot of people get in trouble
and a lot of people get on reality TV
and don't have a plan outside of reality TV.
It's not gonna last forever.
No, and you have to go into it with that mentality
and that's what I've always said.
It's like the books, the podcasts, my degree,
like all of these things.
Yeah, I would have to explain to corporate America
or whatever where the gap was in my resume,
but I also would be able to answer to that.
You know what I mean?
So I would, I can imagine how difficult that is
to maintain an image when you're not getting the same type of payments.
You're not getting the same type of paychecks.
I don't know if she's getting brand deals or not on her Instagram.
I have no idea.
But if she is, it's not going to be the same amount that she was getting when she was actively on reality TV.
That's just not realistic.
I mean, my heart goes out to anybody who is in any type of
struggle. Yeah, regardless whether you know they contributed to that or whatever.
And you know divorce always has multiple sides of the story. There are
children that are involved and I always hate to see this and I hated to see it
when you went through your divorce with hobby. That there were children that were brought into that marriage from a
previous from previous relationships. And so, you know, you've got to think about
those kids' mental stability and what they knew that seemed so stable is now
so gone. Right. Right. Absolutely. You're right. And it just sucks. It does suck. And
it's just one of those things. You wish that it was kind of like the NFL where they explained
to the family members, you're about to make a lot of money. This is the right way to do
it. This is the wrong way to do it. Just to say, I mean, I don't know if it's to cover
their asses, but I never got that from any type of reality TV producers or anything
like that to show, to tell you, you know, you're going to get these lump sums or you're going
to get these payments, you know, think about what to do with them, think about an investor,
think about a financial advisor, like, I didn't get that until I was 25.
So, such poor behavior and financial decision making is so incentivized on reality TV that it should be required by
production companies or networks or anyone who is signing up to do reality
television and they're making these you know larger paychecks probably larger
than they've ever seen before that they have to go through some type of
financial class. Now whether they choose to apply it or not, that's literally
can be said you know that it was offered.
Right. Because then you also have to take into consideration,
you know, taxes, that whole thing.
Yeah.
Because people, I mean, I can't tell you how many years I was playing
ketchup for so long on the tax front because I didn't know that I would
owe taxes.
And then I didn't know my kids would owe taxes.
And so that's a whole other situation that's separate from these big lump sums.
You know what I mean?
I paid a third of my income in taxes,
and only now, you know,
well within the last five years,
has Kristen really helped me put 30% of my paycheck
in a different account, you know?
And so it's a lot.
So I definitely, I empathize, I sympathize,
I see anyone that's struggling with this,
you know, it sucks,
but yeah, I was just down this rabbit hole of Kim and Kroy
and I'm so interested to see how this plays out.
I might be the only person,
I'm gonna go out on a limb here.
I might be the only person that's ever been in reality TV
that required the production company
to take my taxes out before I ever got paid.
I tried and they denied it. I told them I wouldn't work. I told them to take my taxes out.
Probably it was a couple seasons in and I was like I can't do this. I was 8, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 years old, and I didn't want to be responsible to take out these,
you know, large percentages of my income, and I just didn't, I didn't know what I was
doing, and they were like, absolutely not, we cannot be responsible for your taxes.
Oh, they, so you were an employee, not an independent contractor.
Yeah, I was the only one on the show that had that structure.
I feel like that's so smart.
I wonder why the production company that I worked with
wouldn't agree to that, because I feel like we all even
asked for that at some point.
They did give pushback on it and said that they wouldn't do that.
And I was like, no, you guys have to withhold,
because I want to know exactly how much I'm making
so that I can learn how to like financially manage this.
And I wanna make sure that all of my obligations
are taken care of and I never see it.
So I just said I wouldn't film until you guys agree
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Speaking of filming, I was talking about on this other NT last week that I don't know
now that I have the podcasts, I feel like it would be really hard to go back to reality TV. Do you
feel the same? I don't think it has anything to do with the podcast for me.
I think it's just not having filmed in a year and a half.
I feel like it, you know, when I did try to go back
after what it was like three months off,
I think the last season that I filmed,
that was so hard for me after having like my own life
to do for three months and not have to
worry about a film crew or scheduling that.
It was really, really difficult for me to go back just after three months and I had a
meeting last last week, last week or two weeks ago about doing kale and the chaos and I was
talking about all the things that I would, all of my stipulations,
and it was just based on my experience.
It wasn't anything crazy,
like stipulations,
like being able to help produce
and seeing the final cut before it errors,
kind of like the Kardashians,
when they did keeping up with the Kardashians,
things like that,
I want a producer credit because I'm in charge.
Like there was just so many things.
I just, it's so, I would do it, but I think it would be very weird to go back.
It's hard for the people who are on reality TV who don't have any type of producer credit
because you film basically what they tell you to.
And then you don't know how it's going to be cut or how it's going to be used.
On Chris Lino's best, my dad was the only one that had a producer credit.
Really?
So did he get to see final cuts and things before they aired or no?
Yeah.
So if he saw something edited the way that it was just not accurate, could he say no, we're not airing this?
Yeah, I believe so. Like he had a full say and...
So yeah, that's the only way I would go back to filming. And I had told them. I said at the meeting I said my biggest concern was that my story couldn't be told in four minutes. And so it was focusing on things that did not matter and blown things up.
And so then it was very difficult. And I would get defensive because you're wanting me to tell my
story in four minutes and then editing that down. I'm like, my story is worth 40 fucking minutes.
I got lots of baby daddies, lots of fucking kids. I have podcast, I have all kinds of shit. I said,
it's not fair to expect me to be okay
with this villain edit.
And then I was leaning into it
because that's what you do.
What you do.
You lean into whatever narrative is pushed on you
for several years.
I said, so you give me the proper time
to tell a proper and accurate story and I'm in.
You know, like I'm not gonna have less problem
filming the drama.
If it's the entire picture versus he said this, but then she said is not there or, you know, whatever it was.
So I don't know where it's gonna go, but I'm not signing up for one sided bullshit.
I'm past that point in my life.
I'm like, I'm 33 and I got shit to do.
And it's certainly not one sided bullshit.
So. I got shit to do and it's certainly not one-sided bullshit. Well, and two, I don't communicate with
Harvey and Chris outside of email.
Stop trying to force a narrative and force me to talk about,
we don't have a relationship.
There's nothing there.
So why are we focusing on Chris and Harvey?
It's email-only and it's working.
And we're getting along that way and nothing is wrong that way.
And so let's just, if it's just- It's just if it's right and so it's just things like that.
But anyway, we can move on from this.
I don't think that I plan on talking about that.
You know what?
It kind of what the last thing that you just said kind of goes hand in hand with my current
state of mind of just being on this self-journey of protecting my piece and not
allowing any outside influences disturb what I know is in the best interest of not only
myself but my household.
Right, absolutely, you know.
And like I'm not going to do anything that feels inauthentic for any reason at this point.
Like why?
Absolutely not.
And you know, Kristen keeps reminding me, she's like,
kill, like, you can do a show if you want,
but you don't have to, like, you're fine.
And I'm like, I know, I just think it's what I know.
So I equate my success to reality TV,
where I shouldn't, because I've worked on things
outside of the show that have been super successful for me or you know like this podcast and things like that
But you know, I was on TV for 13 years, so I equate
Success to having a reality show which is just not fair. Well, I mean, I feel like it's what
You know and because that was pretty much all you did for a long period of time.
And that's where you invested so much time.
I think it's fair to give credit
from where you came from.
But at the same time,
don't give too much credit from where you came from
to diminish what you've currently done.
And somebody had commented on my Instagram
that was like, Oh, writing
your parents' co-tails or something like that. And I'm like, that's interesting because
and then Kristen cost them out. Um, writing your parents' co-tails and I'm like, Oh, that's
interesting because I actually left Chris Lino's best on my own terms. I took a six-month
hiatus, partnered up with you, started coffee combos, and
have had more success in the podcast space and I ever had success in reality TV. So,
as much as I am so thankful for the platform that Chris Lee knows best gave me to be able to
launch off of that and to do something else, I don't give all of the credit to reality TV.
Right.
You give credit where credit is due and keep it moving.
And last time I checked, I started in the podcast space
and others came to the podcast space.
So it wasn't, I didn't follow anybody.
Well.
So there's that.
That is the T.
Listener question from the Facebook group. It says
does anyone else feel like they can't go and do anything fun for themselves if
their house isn't perfect. I feel like I have so many responsibilities and chores
that I need to do at home that I can enjoy myself without thinking that I should
be there doing that stuff. That is something that I really struggle with. Any advice
on how to stop that mindset and enjoy myself and plan fun trips
with the kids would be appreciated.
And I can't relate to this more.
I used to be like this so much to the point
that I would delay travel time,
knowing that we said we were gonna be on the road,
let's say noon.
We get on the road at three
because I'm trying to get all kinds of shit done at home
that honestly could wait until we got back.
I just hate coming back to a dirty house.
It stresses me out because I'm like,
okay, I went from like one chaotic thing
to the next chaotic thing.
I have learned, and I'm blessed
because I have the ability to have flexibility
and you have to consider also,
I have Jackson 50% of the time,
so, and I have one child.
But I have learned that I have to map out
so far in advance to make sure
that I get the things done, that I wanna get done before I leave and there are sometimes that it's just not gonna get done and I become okay with it
I also hate coming home to especially from a trip
I have less of a problem if I'm just going out to dinner or something and I know that there's tours at the house because it's not a big deal
I can't with all my kids and my animals and everything else, I can, I cannot imagine
the anxiety that would take over.
So I feel this girl completely and I just think, if I had to do every single thing in the
house before I do anything, I would, I would never get to leave.
So that, I don't even, I wish I had advice.
I don't because I just go.
Here, like, my advice is just leave the bullshit
and come back to it.
Because it'll, I mean, it'll still be there.
So.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, I mean, that's difficult
because coming home from a trip is stressful as fuck
when you're just like, why couldn't I have done this
before I left?
You know, I am so anal about my house.
It's not really the stuff.
It is being in a clean and peaceful space.
And if it feels chaotic, I don't feel that peace.
Right.
And so I always, before travel,
I always go through my refrigerator
and get rid of all kinds of
shit that I know is going to be bad whenever I come back.
I always try to make sure that most of all of my laundry is done whenever I leave because
I don't want to come back to it.
Now there's been plenty of times that I have left my house where my laundry is done but it hasn't been put away and that was
a big step for me to be able to know okay it's okay it's in a basket and it's clean and I'll put
it away when I get home. I think taking the small steps were what was good for me and also
planning ahead because when you're traveling with children and you're traveling,
also planning ahead because when you're traveling with, if you have children and you're traveling,
I'm really, and people would probably not expect this
of me, I'm a really, really bad packer,
like I'm in an anxiety packer, and I last minute pack.
And I don't think that anyone listening would be like,
oh, Lindsay's a last minute packer and a last minute,
you know, doer, but I am,
but I have written into my schedule.
I am leaving town on Friday.
I will have all of my stuff packed
and in the car on Thursday night.
So that all of that chaos isn't here.
And the only thing I have left to put in the car
is like my makeup bag, like my toiletry bag.
It's just, it's really hard with people
that have multiple children though.
Like I feel like...
The anxiety I have about packing for multiple children.
I know.
That, for me, is the, is going back all the way two weeks ago, three weeks ago, when someone
asked, like, going, traveling for 15 month old.
If you have one, sure, like you said.
I mean, I personally, I'm not going to do it at this stage, but I understand
traveling and packing for multiple kids is probably the one thing that I have like
crippling anxiety over and I like bone used to pack my kids bags for me because I literally would just look at the stuff and not know what because I don't
for me because I literally would just look at the stuff and not know it because I don't,
that is the most overwhelming thing
having multiple children.
Like if we have three sports in one day, I'm fine.
I got every sports bag ready to go
and like I keep everybody's sports shit together
but when it comes to a vacation or like a weekend away,
fuck no, fuck no.
One hack and it's probably not even a hack.
Probably so many people do it.
The best thing that I ever did for myself
is to learn how to compartmentalize my packing
and use the packing cubes because I forget, far less.
And I have specific packing cubes for specific things.
So it's like, I know when I'm packing Jackson's bag,
it makes it less overwhelming because I'm not thinking of like a whole thing altogether all at
once. I'm thinking of that packing cube. So it's like pajamas, zip up, done,
underwear, and socks, zip up, done, t-shirts, same thing. And I've learned to pack
myself that way. And I feel like I don able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be even Lux believe it. Lux is your child
because he told me last night before he was going to bed after baseball that he was going to clean
his whole bathroom. I love that. I love that. Like go the fuck off. Like I love that.
When they compact for themselves as a game changer, but I think for me like when we went to New York
this two weeks last week, whenever the fuck we were just in New York, everyone was at their dads when I was packing.
So I had to do it just to realize, Lincoln and Isaac do their own laundry now.
Their laundry wasn't done.
So they had no clean underwear, no socks.
I'm texting their dads, like, well, emailing one, texting the other.
Can you please send pajamas and underwear because they didn't do their laundry over here
and I didn't realize. Normally, they do their laundry before they go to their
dad so that when they come home, they have clean laundry. So that's part of the anxiety,
the anxiety also is just they don't have what they needed. So then it was just fucking
night there. The packing cubes, I just got on that train whenever I went to Thailand. So
now that you say that, I'm going to,
sorry, Kristen, since we're going to Mertle Beach,
whenever we're going to Mertle Beach with Kristen,
I don't know when.
I am gonna order packing cubes for the kids
because now that makes so much sense.
Like I can do that for myself.
Why didn't I think of that for my children?
Well, and it just helps.
If you can make a list for your kids
and be like, okay, you need five outfits
and you need five pair pajamas, you know, pack you extra couple pair of draws because we know you
gonna shit at them, like making them a list and sending them to the room with their list and
they're packing cubes, they'll do so much better, I feel like than just throwing everything in a
suitcase and then wondering why they have no draws
when they get there.
Right.
Also, going back to the listener topic
about the anxiety, Lindsay has always been very heavy
on that everything has a place.
So if you have kids and things like that,
make sure they know where the places are.
And if you need to get labels like in my office at home,
every fucking thing, and I'll take a picture of it,
has a label.
So my kids can never, if they take out any type
of school supply, craft supply, coloring books, anything,
they can never tell me they don't know where it goes.
Also in my drawers in the kitchen, I did the same thing.
I mean, they don't have labels,
but you can pull out the drawer, you know what's what.
So that is huge.
So if you have someone that's living with you,
either a partner or roommate, kids, whatever,
once they see where a place is, like where said thing goes,
it's less clutter, it's less to pick up.
Also, Elijah did something in our bathroom.
We keep, I don't have like a hamper specifically in the bathroom.
I have one in the closet, but the laundry basket
in our bathroom is for towels
and we keep it at the bottom of our linen closet.
So all the dirty towels go in there
because I personally like to wash my white towel
separate from anything else.
So that kind of minimizes the shit and it's also out of the way.
So like you know when you go to open your linen closet and you go to get a clean towel,
okay, there's only two left.
I got to take the ones at the bottom to clean them.
So like little shit like that where it's just like more of like a system is super helpful.
I'm trying to think of other tips that have worked.
So like labels, systems,
for the kids, whenever I had the neat method come do the kids closets, they have actually
maintained it because again, they knew where everything was. It's sort of like a packing
queue, but like for real life, not for every day. Yeah. I mean, it has a place. Yeah. And
so it's like labeled for the kids or whatever, you know, the case is.
So think about that.
Look at the Instagrams.
You don't even have to hire these people.
You can look at the Instagrams.
I think the home edit might have like a situation
where you can like buy it online or something.
The neat method might have it also.
Do the place for everything.
See if your kids and your partner,
your roommate, whoever can help organize it.
Once it's established, it's so much easier to keep up with.
And then you'll know like what needs to be done,
what doesn't need to be done.
Love that advice.
And yes, everything in life has a place in your life,
whether that be organization at home,
friendships, relationships, your children have a place.
Yeah. Your children have a place. Yeah.
Your children have a place.
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Okay, um, the next listener topic from the Facebook group says, I know it's long, but I think
you could both can relate. Have you ever dated someone who is just so perfect, but something
just doesn't click? I was seeing this guy for about seven months. We agreed at the start.
It was just casual, but despite that,
he still treated me better than I've ever experienced before.
Randomly buying me flowers, planning really nice dates,
always messaging me good morning and good night,
but despite all of that and really enjoying the time together,
I just didn't fall in love.
He did.
The casual status, all of a sudden,
became too much for him, understandably, so we broke it off. It's just so frustrating because I don't know
why I just couldn't develop those feelings. Is it because he just wasn't right?
And if not, why not? Do I only fall for jerks or am I not over my ex? I know none of
you can answer this for me, but I'm just curious if someone else has had this
experience or has any ideas. I don't know right now. I just feel like love is stupid,
chemical reaction, and if it was controllable at all,
I would have just had fallen for this guy.
This is like me and Malik. This is literally what she just described
is me and Malik, and I never fell for him the way that he,
I mean, he asked me to marry him, you know?
Like, I just never, I mean, he, and I'm not speaking to now because of
what he did after the fact, I just never developed the same type of feelings. And I think partially
was because I was not over Chris and partially because people can have all the right, they
can check off all the boxes and it's just not still not the right person for you. And so,
unfortunately, I didn't make good choices
and I let him on and I stayed for way longer
than I should have and he would come
every time I try to break up with him, he'd come back.
And so it just became this game essentially,
but it's sometimes people just aren't right for you
and they could do such good things
and be such a good person and it's just,
you're not compatible.
I also think that there is something
to be said about the chaos.
If you only fall for jerks, which is what she said,
you know, there is, and I'm not going to get too much
into the psychology of it, but they're based on what
I've learned from therapy is that you can be addicted
to the chaos and not realize.
It's the highs and lows, the pulling in, the pulling out,
not sexually. and not realize it's the highs and lows, the pulling in, the pulling out, not
sexually, I mean of the commitment of the relationship, of the partnership,
whatever. And also the other. But yeah, also the other. And so it's like one of
these things where you don't even realize that you love the chaos, you don't
even realize the highs and lows that you have until you're so far out of it,
that you're like, wow, now that makes sense. You know, it's the, the rush, the adrenaline, the dopamine, and then it completely drops
off.
And then it comes back.
And so it's an addiction, right?
Just like, you know, my therapist, way back when I first started, um, 2019, she, I related
it to drugs.
And I was just like, you know, I literally feel like I'm a drug addict.
It feels like I go on these fucking benders and I can't understand why this is happening.
And she was like, it's kind of like, I forget what she said.
I don't know if she said like chasing a dragon or chasing the monster,
where like you're essentially chasing that first, first, first,
high that you ever had.
And you never quite get to that first high that you felt.
It's sort
of like that in these relationships. Yeah, and so that's something there's
something to be said there and I think you know until you heal that part on your
own you're you're never gonna fall for someone that's actually good for you.
Also do you remember Katie Morton? Yes. She told me one time we did a solo
episode I forget where you were I think I was a time change
So I was like I'll take the episode
She told me because I was telling her in that episode like I really wanted it to work with this person
It was Malik at the time, but like I wasn't into it and she said that
It's good to be bored and it's good to be in a calm relationship and you have to get comfortable with that. Until you get comfortable with that,
you're never gonna be okay
dating someone who's good for you.
That should be normalized.
But I think a lot of times when people have been
in such toxic situations that that becomes your norm
and you have to kind of retrain yourself out of that.
And I think that in situations like this girl saying, and you have to kind of retrain yourself out of that.
And I think that in situations like this girl saying,
I think the qualities and the characteristics
of a person can be right, but the energy can be wrong.
And even though they meet the qualities
that you're looking for, and this person has
all of those characteristics and positive attributes about them.
If the energy doesn't match, neither do y'all.
It's that simple.
And to your point of toxic relationships,
I think if you've ever been in one
unless you've ever been in one,
you will not understand the next thing
that I'm about to say.
But I think once it's so toxic, you don't realize
that it was toxic until it gets to a level of completely and totally just unhealthy. And the back and
forth of that is almost like a high. Oh, 100%. 100%. And you know, know for most I would imagine
You're cognizant enough to know that what you're doing is unhealthy
But you can't get out of it. You don't have enough
foresight or
emotional bandwidth to get yourself out of that toxic pattern.
I cannot stand.
Yeah.
Toxic shit goes on for so long.
And people don't, people who have not been in a toxic relationship will never understand
that.
And it's the most infuriating fucking thing when they're like, just get out.
Why did you go back?
Like, I mean, pretty much all of my relationships have been very, very toxic going back to high
school. They've all been very, very toxic going back to high school.
They've all been toxic, right? Well, just get out of it. I would vent to, you know, my friends or whatever.
Well, why would you go back?
But then when you get in something normal, you second guess yourself.
Yes.
Question. Like, why is this so normal?
And is this person missing something? because it's nothing like what I had
before and like why is it like this?
And you have to get out of the pattern.
And I do think that that's why when you come out of a toxic relationship, if you are not
working actively on yourself, whether that be through therapy or self-healing, you shouldn't
jump right back into a next thing
because you're never going to be able to separate
those two relationships,
the toxic one to the one that could be healthy.
Could you always compare them to each other?
And you'll still be romanticizing the toxic one
and the good parts of the toxic one,
and then you'll unromanticize for lack of better words. The one that could be good for you and you'll never fully commit there because you
can't. You're not capable of it. We had another question that is from someone that says,
since you're freshly divorced, I wouldn't really consider myself freshly divorced, but in the
grand scheme of things probably, could you give me some insight to all the things that need to be covered in my divorce and custody?
My situation is a little different because my husband is abusive to me and my children and
then this person tagged you and said I'll take all of the vice you have on getting over the mental and emotional and physical abuse.
How do you stop loving this man?
Kitty's if you have any advice for me, I'm open for it.
Just reading my initial divorce complaint
has me in shambles, Googling every word
only to feel like an idiot.
Oh, that's so difficult.
I always say put everything that is in or can be
in the kitchen sink
and your paperwork.
Because I don't think that that's something
that you'll ever regret.
The regret will be as if you don't.
Yes, and I can attest to that.
Keep a running document of, you know,
since the complaint has been filed
or you know, whoever has filed for divorce,
keep a running document,
or a document, Google Sheet, whatever of things
that your ex says and does, that need to be noted.
And just put just what needs to be noted.
Don't give a whole long story about it.
Just bullet point what needs to be noted.
Same for the kids if he is there or not there for the kids, if he during this time, because if you don't
have custody during this time, you're going to have to share the kids with them, with him.
Write everything down. If the kids say anything, you know, to you about what he's doing, what
he's saying that needs to be noted, write that down, keep it in a running dock. Make sure
your lawyer gets it. Or if you're not using a noted, write that down, keep it in a running doc. Make sure your lawyer gets it,
or if you're not using a lawyer,
make sure you use it, use a binder,
or whatever you need to do.
There's a cozy app that has like scheduling
that you can do for where like you and the co-parent
can share the kids' schedules.
That's helpful.
Also, talking parents is a way to communicate,
not be an email, but be a text.
You cannot delete text. And it's a safe way to communicate so the courts can see how you guys
are communicating. That's an option. Like, in a state of Georgia, sometimes it's ordered.
Yep. Same for us too. Like, could be on the apps. Yep. Definitely get yourself into therapy.
us to like, uh, yeah, definitely get yourself into therapy. Um, even if you don't necessarily think that you need it right now, I think it would be great for you and to tell your lawyer,
um, or the judge, like, listen, I'm trying to do everything I can to get through this. I want to do
the right thing. Um, and see if your kids need aren't going to need therapy. I don't know how old they
are. Um, save all your receipts because that's a whole separate thing.
Like Lindsey said, holidays, birthdays, vacation time,
notice for things.
Who's paying for sports?
Who's, you know, are you doing 2, 2, 3,
or are you doing 50, 50?
Are you not doing any?
Can you get, if he's abusive to you and your kids,
can you get an emergency PFA?
Is that an option for you? Is that an option for you?
Is it an option for him to have supervised visits?
Do you have proof or documentation of the abuse?
These are all things that you should definitely consider
and take a day for yourself to look through your phone
to see what things that you have,
what text can be printed out.
Do you have threats?
Do you have any of that?
Ask an attorney, can you get a PFA?
Because if he's abusive to you and the kids,
that's a whole other can of worms.
I don't know what state you're in,
but some states take that very seriously and some don't.
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I'm fortunate enough that that wasn't a part of my divorce and I also in the
grand scheme of things feel like I had a pretty amicable settlement and also
it was pretty easy to make the parenting plan because we had good
attorneys and we're willing to work with each other.
I hate to see people who make it to the point
of getting it worse, having children involved
and not putting the children first.
I think that you have to put yourself first,
get yourself in therapy or on some type of,
you know, self-healing journey
because you are going through a lot. It's a bighealing journey because you are going through a lot.
It's a big life change and your children are going through a lot.
So you have to be strong for your kids.
So in order for you to be strong for them, you have to be strong for you.
And I do believe that there is a reason for everything that happens.
There's a reason for all of our stories.
everything that happens, there's a reason for all of our stories. And if you want to personally message me, I would be happy to share some of my inside info on my
personal parenting plan and maybe that can help a little bit. I just don't feel
comfortable sharing it, you know, on here. But, but yeah, I would love to be able to help. I always say, and Will says, like,
we rarely refer to our parenting plan outside of holiday scheduling. We're very
flexible, flexible when it comes to needing to change dates for work obligations, or if he has
family things going on that I don't want Jackson missing out on then you know I'm flexible with changing with him. For example, Mother's Day
and Father's Day is a weekend holiday in our parenting plan so you can celebrate the whole weekend
so from Friday to Monday and that's for both parents. We'll have Jackson on Friday and Saturday,
so I could do some alone stuff
and have some alone time by myself
and then celebrate and be fully present all day
with Jackson on a Sunday.
And we were flexible about that,
but that's not what our parenting plan says.
And back, we went through two different custody schedules
before we got to our 225.
So I also wanna say we didn't have it figured out
from the beginning and what's actually written
in our parenting plan is not what we go off of.
To that point, I've said on this podcast before,
there's nothing in my parenting plan with Chris
about birthdays, so he's getting the kids
for their birthdays for the second year in a row.
And that was me missing, just missing that part.
Some parts of my custody order with him are very vague.
The other two are not vague at all.
So there are just, you have to be,
and to your point of getting through this
and how not to love them, I was in therapy for three years
to get over this man.
So it's not gonna be easy, and you're gonna go through
times where you miss him, where you
love him, where you are romanticizing all the things, all the good things. But with distance and, you
know, time and healing. And yeah, because I mean, I you couldn't pay me to go back to that man now,
you know, and that's with all respect possible because I want the best for him. We're not arguing
right now. Just saying like you couldn't pay me to go back to him and I never thought I would get over him. So it's going to take time and
it's going to be painful and it's going to be hard and you're going to cry and you're going to
try to at some point date other people. It's probably not going to work because you're still not
over him. And you know, it's just one of those things that you have to give time and give yourself
some grace. So I don't have any advice other than time and distance.
You have to put the distance between you guys.
If that means going no contact
and only speaking through lawyers, then do it.
Or only speaking through the parenting app, then do it.
I think a lot of times when you are going through
a relationship stuff, whether you're, you know,
trying to decide if you're gonna stay in one
or you're getting out of one, you're going through a divorce, you've got kids involved. A lot of times when you're no longer with
that person, you find yourself romanticizing things that never existed because it was something
that you're fantasizing about. Yep, 100%. And so I just encourage you to look at the actual facts
of what your situation was and don't romanticize or fantasize
about something that did not exist. So there's that. And now it's time for us to do foul play.
Hi, Kale, Lindsay and Kristen. First of all, I love all the podcasts. Y'all are amazing.
Now on to the foul play. So today I'm at the OBGYN for my 39 week appointment. I'm mistakenly peed before I was mistakenly peed before I went. So when
they asked for a urine sample, I told them I chug some water during
my appointment and leave it on the way out. So I get to the
bathroom and I'm praying for something to happen unusual since I
feel like I'm always having to pee these days. I finally fill the
cup about halfway. When I went to wipe off the cup,
my clumsy ass pops in all over the bathroom floor. At this point, I'm in fight or flight mode.
First, I have to muster up another bit of pee, which of course was a whole ordeal. And then I had
to clean up the remains, so no one except for now an entire following of coffee combos. Listeners
knows that happened. I guess this is a weird mess up way of preparing me for motherhood.
Thanks for the bullshittery every week.
I look forward to it every Thursday.
It's so funny that this came up because when I went to the gynecologist,
I very much took it seriously of the no eating past 10 p.m.
and I think I had to not eat.
Because I have my labs done
you know so you can't you can't eat you're I think it's supposed to be like
12 hours or something like you had a fast for blood work yeah they always make
me faster blood work I don't remember getting blood work every year for my
for my annual move on move on you gonna need to move on so
Stay out my business
so I had my labs done and
I was like I've got a muster up some piss because like I've had nothing and it's been like lots of hours like way over
12 hours the only thing I had was water, but like it evidently wasn't enough
to cause me to go to the bathroom.
So I go in and you know, you grab those cups
and it's so awkward because you know
that everybody has touched every fucking crevice
of that bathroom with possible urine hands.
And I also wonder why they don't have like a glove
for you to slip your hand in
when you go to like open that metal door
to like put your piss in the thing.
Because people have peed,
put their koochi up to the cup,
then they go and stick it right up,
guaranteed because this is the method that I do,
that you go and stick it right away,
then wash your hands.
Right.
Also, when you're peeing in the cup,
I've definitely tinkled on my hand before.
Oh, that doesn't surprise me about you at all.
Also, though, I was able to go literally like this much, so it just like covered the bottom
like little rim of the cup.
And so I was like, fuck, this is not going to be enough and then I'm going to have to redo
it.
So I need to like ask the nurse for some water while I'm waiting for the doctor to come in and
check me.
And I sit down and she does my blood pressure and all this.
And she's checking my iron.
And I said, did you check right here?
And she was like, yeah, it was good.
Everything's fine, whatever.
And I said, well, it's always the weirdest thing because you never know, like they never tell you,
like fill the cup up or it's just kind of like,
you're on your own island, like you go in,
is, are we supposed to fill up the whole cup?
Like, she's like, oh, just enough, you know,
like for me to check to make sure you don't have any,
like type of infection, pregnancy test, you know,
whatever, just like dip it in.
And it was just the bottom.
So I encourage all of you who are pissing in the cup and filling it all the way to the brim. It's unnecessary.
Also, if your bathroom at your OB or your GYN is within arm's reach, stick the cup
on like the sink or something while you get your shit together because surprisingly enough,
I've never spilled urine. I've never spilled urine either, ever. Now I say that the next time I go I'll
fucking spill it all over the place. But I also when I'm peeing at that place,
I always look on the floor to see like if there's any particles of anything.
Do you? No, because I'll get so skived out.
Skived? I will get so skived out. I'm so weird about that.
So tell me you don't have your lab done?
At my yearly visit, no, I don't think so.
Unless there's like a problem, I get my pat,
but I don't remember getting my lab done at a yearly.
But now I'm going to ask, maybe like, listen,
my friend gets her blood taken for her yearly.
Why is that not happening for me?
I didn't last year.
Hmm.
OK.
Second and last, foul play.
Hi, ladies.
I listen to all the podcasts, of course.
OK, so back senior year of high school,
I had a best friend who didn't smoke weed.
It was around her birthday, and I decided
I was going to get her high because she decided she wanted to.
And I was someone who was always super comfortable.
She was always super comfortable with.
While we're driving my car later
and she's so violently messed up,
she smashes her head off my passenger window
because she thought it was down
and puked all over the inside of my passenger's side
of my car.
Shit was gross, thanks for listening to guys.
I love you all.
Damn, I didn't know smoking weed would make you throw up.
I've heard this, her, I'm like a lot of people honestly. Yeah. I've never, I've never thrown up
anytime. I've never thrown up, but I have heard people talk about it and I've heard people
getting sick from gummies too. Oh. Yeah. I don't think that that's uncommon, but what is uncommon is
someone who decided to smash their head off of somebody's passenger window. I would be absolutely pissed and if someone puked in my car
immediately know that you have just signed up for a detailed payment. Oh, and rightfully so. I mean like
If you throw up in someone's car, they shouldn't even have to ask you for that. That's something that you should be offering.
Were you the person that told me that you threw up in an Uber before?
No. Someone told me they threw up in an Uber before and then got pissed because the
person gave them like a bad review and I'm like well no shit. Like you literally
puked your guts out all over the back of their car.
And then their Uber driving for the day was done.
It was done.
They're overdriving for the week was done
because they probably bit by the time
they got a detail appointment.
And I'm not touching nobody, no fucking strangers throw up.
I'm just not.
Speaking of cars though,
did you see in the Facebook group where there was like this custom car and it was a seat that had a toilet in it?
I commented. I was like, if I ever hit the lotto, I'm getting a seat with a toilet in it.
But where would the, where would the piss and shit go?
Maybe it's a line of road or on the road.
That's disgusting. That is a
better than shit in the car. That's a literal safety hazard for the United States of America's
citizens. Where do you think shit goes now? Not on the highway. No, but it goes in the water.
And that's why I don't go in them. I go into pools with chlorine. That's enough.
So on that note, I got some shit to do and I've been extremely tired. So I hope to stop
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