Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Rate This Meal

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

This week on the podcast, things get messy! Kail's litter box pressure washing mishap, more Wayfair purchases, and Lindsie prepares for the ultimate summer meals. Myth or fact? Do beans really make you gassy? They also explore the mystery of beer can chicken. Today's Listener questions about co-parenting, and travel advice for a potential Hawaii family trip. And finally, a Foul Play with a 69 gone wrong.Thank you to our sponsors!Fast Growing Trees: Get an additional 15% off your first purchase at FastGrowingTrees.com/coffee using the code COFFEE at checkout. Limited time, terms and conditions may apply.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn moreStamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!Wayfair: Visit Wayfair.com or get the Wayfair mobile app.Full video is available on Patreon: Patreon.com/kaillowrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kalea and Lindsay. Good morning, Kitty Kat. We are Webby winners. Webby winners. Thank you so much to everyone who voted for us and then also check their email to confirm their votes for us because we won our first Webby award for Coffee, Como's podcast. It feels like it's been such a long time coming. Yes, I literally I opened the group chat. I have a book club group chat and the girls were like, congrats on your wing when this was long overdue.

And I'm like, literally, we have been the longest running podcast out of all of the shows. And this is our first Webby Award. Listen, sometimes the respect is just not there, but I'm glad it is now. Thank God. Thank you to everyone who voted for believed in us. Every single person that believed in us and has put up with our nonsense for the past almost eight years. Can you believe that?

No. We started this podcast right after Lux was born and he's going to be eight this summer. That's the craziest shit ever. I need to know why you're pressure washing this weekend. Okay. Let's talk about that for a second because I was showing off. Okay. So we, please don't come for me. Y'all don't come for me. Okay. We have cats. I have five litter boxes. Okay. I have one in the dog room, which is like fire the side door. I have two under the stairs and two upstairs. Okay. Because I was always told you have one litter box, sorry, two litter boxes per one cat, I think it is.

I think that's the rule. Or it's like one litter box per one cat. I don't know. So anyways, we have five because I'm not taking any chances. Well, we don't scoop it daily. We just change the entire litter boxes every week. And so before Isaac went to his dad's, he needed to do the litter boxes. Well, before he put clean litter in, we needed to pressure wash them so that anything that

was left in it, like after you like- Yeah. And I have never pressure washed, but I was like, let me make Lindsay proud real quick. Go out there, start pressure washing the fucking litter boxes. Well, I guess the pressure and the angle of the litter boxes being curved at the bottom, whatever fucking remnants of shit litter and piss litter flew back at me.

You've got to angle like the nozzle. Well, you didn't give me that tip. And so I'm covered literally from head to toe in remnants of cat shit. And then while I'm out there, I was like, I have to, you know, the water tables for the babies, cause the, you know, the weather is getting nicer. So I was like, I have to do that.

That was the last, I literally did the litter boxes. And then I did, which Isaac should have done. It shouldn't have been me because they're his cats. And then he's just laughing. Like they just thought it was the funniest fucking thing. And so while I'm out there, I quickly just like do the water table to get that ready for playtime. And I sent you the picture of or the video of me pressure washing the water table, but

truly it was because of the fucking cat litter. So immediately left it to everybody else and I went inside to shower because I was so disgusted. But did you not feel like when I get my pressure washer out, I have plans to do one thing and then it's turned into an eight hour job? Exactly. That's exactly what happened. So I had ordered a bunch of stuff to do my little decorations and stuff on my side porch that I told you about from Wayfair. And I told my boyfriend, I was like, hey, I'm going to get the pressure washer out this weekend.

And he said, Lindsay, we still have one month of pollen left. And when I tell you, it looks like just yellow all over everywhere. And then I told somebody about pollen the other day, I was at the Pilates studio and this woman was like, I'm from the North and we don't really have pollen like that. That's a goddamn lie. That is a goddamn lie. Everything is covered in yellow pollen up here. And does it not piss you off with your car?

It's so disgusting. And actually Delaware at one point was like one of the worst states for pollen. But why did the trees need to do that to us? I don't know. Is it like, is it tree shitting? Like what is it? But why do the trees need to do that to us? I don't know. I truly don't. Is it tree shitting? Like what is it?

Um, I think they're pollinating. Yeah, but is that shitting for like a tree? I think it's reproducing. Let me look it up. What is pollen? Yeah, essential for reproduction through pollination. It's the male reproductive cell of flowering plants and it's often a source of allergies for many people, triggering symptoms like sneezing and itchy eyes. So what's calling it?

Pollen is the male gametite, gametifet, I don't know what I'm saying, containing genetic material needed to fertilize the female reproductive parts of a plant. So it's the male part coming. Yes. Like what the fuck? That's even nastier. That's even fucking nastier. Okay, look at this though. Speaking of Wayfair while I was on my little bender on the website. Do you cook corn at home? Yeah, like on the cob? Yes. Oh my god, they have the cutest corn on the cob holders.

Little holders. That's so cute. This one's a weenie dog because I have a weenie dog, but they had like cat ones. They have all different ones. Are your nails the butter nails? Yes. Yes. That's like the big trend of the season too.

That with the weiner dog, corn holders and the corn. Love it. I need to see Lindsay on the grill. My grill also came from Wayfair and I am trying to put together a menu. This is very excessive because I'm back in my Pinterest mom era. Love that for you. Did you ever think I was going to get back to that? You know, I did. I did because that's, I think at your core, like Lindsay Chrisley core is Pinterest mom. I would agree, but I think once I realized that I was going to get a divorce, I like transitioned myself to become a different human.

Yeah. I mean, that's what we have to do. I never went back to it and now I find myself going back to it. So I have been writing down a list for like summer meals that I'm going to be putting on my grill. Can you also send them to me so that I don't now have to do the work because you already did it? Yes, but I need to ask you, somebody from the North, do you all like baked beans up there? Yes, I don't, but people do.

I feel like it's a Southern thing. You always have it at a barbecue. People love baked beans up here. I just don't prefer them. Will's mom makes the most jam up fucking baked beans I've ever had in my life, but they have like meat in them. So it's like a whole fucking meal. See if I could, if there was baked beans that were like flavorful that had meat in them, I'm going to fuck them up all day.

And that's when you'll need your emodium. And then I'll need the emodium because I will be also shitting on the floor at that time. Okay. Well, since we're speaking about beans, do you feel like it is a myth, beans, beans, they're good for your heart. The more you eat, the more you fart, the better you feel. Now you're ready for another good meal. Do we feel like beans actually make people gassy? Yes. Like you've experienced this. Yes. A ricotta cheese also makes people gassy, but I love it. I love a good ricotta cheese. Maybe it's just people that are lactose intolerant. Oh my God. I love ricotta cheese. It's my favorite. My name says it's regatta.

Yeah. I think that's like the actual way to say it, but I think that the beans that are good for your heart, I don't think those are baked beans. I think those are like raw organic beans that were not smothering with sauces and overcooking and sticking them in a barbecue meal. You know what I mean? I think the beans that are good for you are the ones that are like- Are we talking kidney beans and Pinto's? And we're talking about- Lima.

Lima beans. Yeah. I think there's levels to it. You know what I mean? You know what the best summer meal is ever? And I grew up on it. Sushi. You know what the best summer meal is ever and I grew up on it sushi what? First of all, nobody grew up on sushi Our kids are well, I know but we're like modern moms modern moms podcast Like nobody knew about sushi in the 90s. No, I certainly didn't know about sushi in the nineties. I learned about sushi when I was 17 years old.

Listen, the best summer meal, and nobody comment me, is pinto beans, cornbread, fried potatoes, and cantaloupe. With that combination specifically? Yes. Okay. And like peppers, like if you have like fresh peppers from your garden that I don't have, but like if I had one,

I could get it from like the produce stand, but like a fresh pepper with pinto beans is so jam up. It's like an underrated situation. What is jam up? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Like delicious, like jam up. Like it's jam up. Yeah.

Is that new? Is what new? Jam up? No, I just heard it from my ex boyfriend and it sounded cool. People are going to be like, these are the two people that won a Webby award. Like these are the conversations that they're having that wins them awards. Listen, these are the things that the people need to hear. Let me see. Okay. Hold on a minute. Rate this meal.

Wait, are you posting this somewhere? No, I'm texting someone. Did you say kidney beans? Pinto beans. Oh, pinto, pinto beans, cornbread, but it's got to be white, white cornbread. Okay. Potatoes. Fried. Okay. Did you get cantaloupe? Cantaloupe. That's it. Pinto beans, cornbread, fried potatoes and cantaloupe. Yeah. Nothing else. No. Okay. I'll sort of like the meal. No, that's not the meal. That is not make you fart. Like never have I ever just been like, Oh, I'm going to eat these beans and fucking fart.

Let me Google that actually. Like I think it's a myth to tell you the truth. Do beans really make you gassy? Yes. Beans are known to cause gas. Beans contain oligosaccharides, which are complex sugars that the human digestive system cannot break down. These sugars are fermented by bacteria in the gut producing gas. This is why consuming beans can lead to an increased flatulence. It's important to note that not everyone experiences gas after eating beans. The amount of gas produced can vary depending on factors such as the type of bean, the individual's gut bacteria, and their overall diet. So your mind is wrecked.

Mine is going to be wrecked where someone who eats healthier and has great options and is more of an organic girly is probably not going to struggle the same way as me. This circling back to that meal. Yeah. Horrendous. One out of 10. One out of 10. Okay. Well, you guys don't know how to eat. Y'all don't know how to eat. Y'all are not from the South. It's rude. And I'm done. We're not from the south. One of the best meals ever on the grill is barbecue chicken. The corn like do the corn on the cob like on the grill. I think that is far superior.

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I could see it being done on the stove and you're boiling. It's not a big deal. But Kristen just asked us. Have we ever heard? Chicken I've heard of anything that involves any alcohol and yes, I have I Don't know what the fuck beer can chicken is. You put a beer can in a chicken, not like a breast, but like you put it in a chicken and then you put it on the grill and all the beer like seeps down into it. And it's just- Why would someone want that?

Glory. Well, it doesn't taste like beer. It's kind of like cooking with wine. Kristen says it makes it so juicy. Will it taste like beer? Because if it does, I can't get behind it. No, because it like cooks all the alcohol and stuff out. Once it gets to a certain temperature, it's not like you're gonna serve that to your kids

and they're gonna get drunk, dear God. Dear God. No, okay, so the first time that Jackson ever shit and he had had corn, he was like, why is my corn in the toilet? But I have heard some people like don't have that experience. Kristen said this is why I don't eat corn. Yeah, but why do you care? Like if you ever been to Chipotle and gotten the corn salad

stuff, and then you immediately know the next time you take a shit like it's all going to be there. I guess like what is the purpose of corn if it doesn't digest like what are we getting from it? Nothing flavor. I'm also I'm googling beer can chicken flavor. We're getting flavor. I just like really want to try this now. Do y'all want me to put together like a summer menu? Yes, we do. Coffee Convo's podcast. No, I would love that. And can you add beer can chicken to it? Oh, 1000%. I mean, I'm probably not going to be the person on the grill making the beer can chicken, but I know somebody that can make beer can chicken that will be on the grill. I've literally never heard of this. So the pictures that I'm seeing is like you literally

put it inside the chicken and then it's sitting like the sort of like this it's sitting. So does the flavor rise up into the chicken or does do like cook it the other way so the beer goes up? Like how does it work? I think I've only seen will ever do this before, but I think he put it in there like right side up. And then once the chicken got to a certain point, then he turned it the other way. Oh, interesting. And they just see you beer up chicken down. She said you do beer up chicken down. Oh, they make a holder for the grill.

I want to do this. I want to try it because I'm not a beer girl I don't like the taste of beer in any way. Um, but I feel like it would be good. How many beer girlies are listening to this podcast because oh yeah, look, Kristen's pulled up a whole little diagram. Oh yeah. See, kill. You've got to go on Amazon and get that. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it Did I blackout Oh beer girlies How many girls listening to this podcast girls women whoever you are actually like beer? Like are we just drinking it because it's like a social thing and that might be what they have So you're just like going for it or you actually enjoy the flavor of beer. Because there has never been one time in my existence that I've enjoyed a flavor of a beer. I just adapted to Corona's

in college because they didn't have seltzers. I'm never drinking a beer. I don't like the taste of it. And I've heard that it's acquired, like you can tolerate it and eventually work your way up, but that would take so much work from me to try to acquire the taste that I just never did. I feel like taking shots is an acquired taste. I feel like drinking beer is an acquired taste. I feel like finding a wine that you like, that's also an acquired taste. Don't ask me to drink wine. I'm not.

You're not a wine girly? Absolutely not. But I feel like most people would think I was. A Moscato, that's basically juice with a little bit of alcohol in it. I could do that, but beer is a no. I think coffee is a very acquired taste too. You can slowly teach yourself to, if you're big on cream and sugar, you can phase yourself out of it. Kristin said she likes a Washington apple, Vegas bomb, red Gatorade, pink Starburst. That my friend is called alcoholic. Alcoholic.

Oh my God. Wait, I have to tell you this. Oh my God. Wait, I have to tell you this. Oh my God. Hold up. Completely forgot to tell you. So reconnected with someone from when I went to high school. Okay. Okay. He was like, I need to introduce you to my sister-in-law. Her name is Jasmine. Okay. Jasmine FaceTimes. She's on FaceTime and she's like, I know your mom. Wait, what? Yeah.

She knows Woozy Suzy. What? So I'm like, wait, what? And she was like, I went to cosmetology school at the same Paul Mitchell school that your mom went to go get her teaching license for cosmetology. And we were there at the same, like we went to the same school at the same time. Did she say good things about Susie? My phone was about to die. And at the same time that my phone was about to die, my pig

escaped from the farm. So I was like, I have to go. My phone's about to die. I literally was like, okay, between my phone about to die and the pig escaping, I was like, let me go call Kristin really quick because I needed to tell her before I plugged my phone in. Oh my God. So I opened the front door because I was going to sit on the front porch and call her really fast before I charged my phone. And here comes the pig trotting up to Buddha. And so I haven't really processed all of it yet, but I'm just like for someone to know Boozy Susie and have

seen her within the last 10 years and I haven't is so crazy because this past February was eight years. Eight years since you've seen your mom? Yeah. What? Yeah. Does it feel like a lifetime ago? Yes.

It literally feels like I remember where I was, the house. I remember a lot of it. But do you feel healthier now that you've been disconnected that long? You're not as traumatized? Yeah. I start therapy again today. So literally after this recording, I'm going to see my therapist that I was going to for four years.

Once I catch her up on everything, we'll see if she still wants me to be her patient. But because I told Kristen, I said, um, I don't know if my therapist, cause she's a psychologist, she may drop me after this appointment. I don't know. Do you know, I've heard people talk about how therapists like fire clients and like hairstylists do too. Yeah. Could you imagine getting fired by your hairstylist? I could not never imagine, like I've heard horror stories from hairstylists and clients. And some of the ones that I've heard is like, somebody comes in with this image of this person.

Let's say it's like Kim Kardashian, for example. And they're like, make me look like that. You didn't go into that salon looking like that. So why do you think you're coming out looking like that? Well, that's why I think like being realistic about inspo, like I got my hair done yesterday and it's Taylor had sent me a video and it's like, that is the inspo. It is not going to turn out exactly like that. It is not going to be that exact color. We're not using because her salon uses different products and different brands than maybe the other salon. We don't know. So just being realistic, it's like this is the inspo, but that's not the guarantee.

Like some of my favorite and this is so horrible because I know it's like other people's trauma, but I like to go on TikTok and see like bad hair jobs and I will look at people's hair on these videos and it's like, actually that doesn't look that bad. And then they show the inspo pic and I'm like, for fuck's sake, like who told you, you were going into that hair salon and coming out with that specific hair? I don't know. People are literally delusional. Like truly delusional. I cut my hair and then I told Taylor that this isn't the last time that we're going to cut. We're going to do, I'm going to grow it out after this. Wait, so that's the last cut before the

grow out? Yes, because I, when I had surgery and I got the head injury, I had a bald spot that was this big. I don't know if I ever told you about that. So she said that the hair that's growing back from the bald spot is about an inch long. And then I had a bunch of breakage down here. I'm guessing it was from postpartum. So it's almost as long. I'm pulling it forward so it looks like it's as long, but that's because I also got a chop. It's almost as long as the rest of my hair. So that's separate. The breakage down here is separate from, you see it? Yeah, yeah. Is separate from the bald spot. So once it all blends together, I'll be able to start

growing it out. I just didn't want to grow it out and it'd be so thin from the bald spot and the breakage. So I think now that we're in a good place, I can grow it back out. Why do we always go through these cycles? It's like you chop your hair and I get extensions. You decide your growing years out and I'm like, I think I want to chop. But that's the cool thing about hair is like it always grows back and like, I don't know. If I decided to keep it short after all, then you know, it's fine. Growing up, my dad was so crazy about my hair. He wanted it a certain way?

Yes. And Julie, I mean, I think she had every color hair that you could get from like CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid, like whatever, growing up. Her and her girlfriend would just sit, do hair, like all the beauty stuff at home. She's like, Todd, it's not that big of a deal. Hair grows back. Color can change. Like, chill out. That man, sheer panic. Like I came home with my hair cut off. You would have thought it was his hair. Yeah. Cause I just don't understand.. I think we actually had a conversation, Will and I did the other day because Jackson's in this phase where he wants to pick everything for himself. So he's like, it's my hair, it's my rules, it's my clothes, it's my stuff.

And Will's like, no. And I kind of teeter more on the line with Jackson. It's not that big of a deal. I teeter on the line of you and Jackson. And I like to give my kids freedom, freedom, bodily autonomy, especially when it comes to their hair. Like there was a point in time where Lincoln wanted to grow his hair out and he literally looked at me and said, but my dad's not going to let me. And it's like, it's one of those things where we should give our kids the power of choice for things like that.

Because if they don't get that, and then it sort of relates to like the sneaky parent thing where, or not sneaky parents, strict parents thing, where they'll rebel against it later on if they feel like they didn't have a voice or they feel like they didn't have options or they didn't have control of their, you know, they didn't have bodily autonomy. So it's like just making sure that they have, you give them choices where they can. Like I don't, if Lincoln wanted to grow his hair out, I don't give a shit. Those are things that I'm just not willing to fight over. Like pick and choose your battles at home with your kids. If they want to wear their hair like that and that makes them proud

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Just go to Stamps.com code coffee. Jackson knows like you can have your hair like a little bit longer, but the hygiene has to keep up. So if you're not washing your hair or you're not fixing the way it should be fixed with the way you want to wear it, then that's another conversation. Right. Absolutely. I also, so Lux and Creed, there's nothing that makes them more proud than when they get to pick out their own outfits. When they come in the bathroom, when I'm getting ready to show me their outfits every single fucking morning. And matter of fact, I'll start filming it because they come in there and Creed is big on words of affirmation.

So if I tell Lincoln, oh, I like your outfit, Creed will get really upset if I don't say it the same to him because he's so proud of it. He loves clothes. I'm not fighting with them about what they want to wear. If we have to go somewhere, I'll give them options like this or this. But for school, especially Creed, he's at preschool. You know what I mean? Who cares? I don't give a fuck, but it's not that. Go ahead. Not that big of a deal used to back when I was probably like way more type A than what I am now. I'm like, okay, why are you wearing Adidas shorts with a Nike shirt and an under armor hoodie? Yeah. Like it needs to either

be all one brand. Like why are we mixing brands? Yeah. Yeah. And then the white socks versus the black socks. I am now telling you, I will never buy Jackson a pair of white socks ever again. Black socks, black shoes, white socks, white shoes. But if you have the two-tone shoes,

like you and I both have, I bought the Nike shoes from your link that are white Nikes where they have the black check and the black inside around the ankle. Whatever color the part that goes around your ankle is in the shoe, that is the color sock you need to wear. Stop wearing black shoes with white socks and stop wearing black socks with white shoes. You've gotten pissed at me about that before. Especially if you have black shoes on and black pants and all of a sudden I see white socks poking out,

like what are we doing? We're just getting dressed and we don't know what we're doing. Glend it. I know, but I just feel like most people just don't think of that. To tell you the truth, when Jackson gets ready for school, there's no telling what he might walk down

the stairs looking like. As long as it's not a major distraction for school, I'm like, I don't care. It might be a jersey, the shirt underneath might not match, the shorts definitely don't match what's going on up top, the socks probably should be black, but they're white. You know, dude, go on with your bad self. They'll get it one day. Okay. Well, while we're talking about kids, I had a conversation with Jackson. I said, you know what? You're going to start being a contributing member of society and also

this house. Like you're going to start taking pride in where you live and taking care of your things. And he's like, yeah, but why would I do that? Because you do it. And I said, oh no, sir. No, no, no, no, no. I know I've done it all up until this point, but this summer you're going to learn how to sort and do your own laundry. He's like, yeah, but that's what moms do.

Oh, so we're gonna teach him today. So I have ordered a new washer and dryer because I have two connections at my house. One is right off of his bedroom. So I'm like, what better time to teach him by using that washer and dryer? It's so close. It's not inconvenient. You know, all the things I went on Wayfair. I have ordered collapsible, like hamper situations to make it easier for him to be able to sort. I have ordered a dual pan air fryer from Wayfair, it's Ninja. He's going to learn how to cook his own pizza rolls.

I love that. Lincoln's about his age and he just learned. So I feel like that's a good age. It's fair. So he just learned though. Yeah. Was it like a hard process? No, he just figured. So I feel like that's a good age. It's fair. So he just learned though. Yeah. Was it like a hard process? No, he just figured it out. I told him he didn't have a choice.

So what do we think about 12 year olds learning to sort and do laundry? No, absolutely. Isaac, I mean, Isaac's a little bit older, obviously he's 15, but Lincoln, I've said this before, so it's not a secret. Lincoln is my messiest child. Lincoln will sort his laundry, put it in the washer, never switch it over the dryer, and then someone will put it in a basket and put it in his room and he'll just leave it in there and live out of it with wrinkles and he don't give a fuck. We're working on it. While Javi moves to Virginia and is doing that, I'll be working on Lincoln doing laundry all school year long. But I say all that to say, now is a good age for that. I think that that's a great, because Lux is

too young. Lux is about to be eight. Lincoln is learning. Isaac does it. Before Isaac went to his dad's, he had to do all his laundry. Yeah. Why is that still our responsibility? You have hands and you have feet and you know how to walk and you know how to do stuff. Because I hands and you have feet and you know how to walk and you know how to do stuff. Because I've watched you do stuff that you want to do. So let's just make this easier and you start picking up chores because over the summertime, I feel like that's the best time for them to learn they're not having to do school stuff. So I'm putting together a whole chore chart and I know that I have said before that I won't pay for chores, but I'm going to.

You know what? Some kids, and we've talked about it before, some kids need an incentive and some kids don't. And some kids, even in my own household, I can motivate some of my kids with money and some of them can't. Isaac's not motivated by money, Lincoln is. I think that they're all different. Sometimes you have to go against what you would normally do to make it work. I told Lincoln when he started doing his laundry, I said, you love music so much, put a song on, put YouTube on, and it's not going to

... Play music. I guess it's sort of body doubling, like if someone's there. We got to teach them because they have to be productive members of society at some point. And I'll tell you what, I'm scared to fucking death. Okay. So I also wash my sheets every Friday. So every bed in this house that has been used is being washed on Fridays. Do we think it's excessive to ask a 12 year old to take their sheets off of their bed? No, I don't think it's excessive. I think that that is part of our responsibility as parents to teach them because I have an

ex that his sheets weren't washed for 18 years. So I mean, we need to make sure that that doesn't happen. I told you that when I first started dating Will, there was like literally a body stain on his sheets. Oh yeah. You did tell me that. And I'm like, when was the last time you washed these? He's like, um, never. Like never. Like since I got my bed. Like who does that? And who thinks that's normal? It's disgusting. But you know what's crazy? Like growing up, when I think back to how

my mom was, when I, when I think back to how my mom was, the times that I lived with my mom, my mom's a very clean person. She likes her house. I think it is mental illness. She wants things to look a certain way, even though that's not how they are. I don't know. It also could be a sense of control thing. So she wanted everything spotless. For someone who was as anal as she was about the laundry and how things were done and how things looked in the house, my mom never taught me how to do any of the stuff that she wanted.

So it was almost like she would be like, you need to go do this or that. But she never taught me how to do those things. She just expected me to know how to do it, expected me to do it, and expected me to do it her way. And so that created a lot of chaos essentially. And so for me, I try to teach my kids how to do it. Like, okay, Lincoln, when we went through his room to do like clothes rotation or whatever, I was like, I'll go up there with you and this is how we'll do it.

Do you know what I mean? Like showing them where like my mom never did that. And so she would get all pissed off if I didn't do something or did it her way. And it's like, you never even showed me how to do this. Well, and I think that that's so negative, right? Like you can teach your kids how to do something, but expecting them to do something the exact way that you do it or want it done. I don't really think that's a fair expectation. Bro, if you want to roll your t-shirts instead of fold them, go ahead and roll them because you're the one that's going to be wearing them and you're going to be the one that's putting them away. So I don't care. My closet's not

organized like that. Same for like hanging versus using the drawers. Yep. I like my stuff. I personally personally like my stuff hung up because if I walk into my closet and it's folded into drawers and I don't see it out of sight out of mind, I forget I have it. So for me, I like to hang everything because I have to be able to see it. And that's just, I mean, that goes with everything in my house. If I don't see it out all the time, I don't, I don't remember it's there, but if my kids refer to put it in drawers, by all means, that doesn't have anything to do with me. But I think that's where parents go wrong.

I think you can teach them your version of right. Like this is the right way to do it because everybody has their own version. There is no right or wrong way. If he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, I don't care how it's executed. Yeah, exactly. And that's so crazy to think that she was such a clean person

like that and organized and methodical. In her car too. Her car was spotless. Her house was spotless. I mean, just, I never saw my mom without makeup. What? I think the only, maybe on Team Mom one time, because we had to film and they like required it, but like I never saw, growing up, I never saw her without makeup. She always had her makeup done. She always had her nails done. No matter what, I hate to say this because I don't really know if it's true and I don't know if we just diagnosed everyone as a narcissist, but I feel like it's narcissistic behaviors. Like,

oh, I can mask my addictions. I can mask my alcoholism. I can mask it all by looking a certain way or being put together. And there are people who are functioning addicts and functioning alcoholics. And I think my mom falls into that category a little bit. Do we feel like as moms, you feel a sense of guilt for not doing it all and wanting your kids to do the stuff? Because I feel it's like, I love doing his laundry and I love cleaning his bathroom and I love making his bed. I feel like part of me is being robbed. But if I don't teach him how to do that stuff, then when he gets out on his own, how is he ever going to know how to do it?

It's hard for me to answer that question because, well, it's not hard for me to answer the question. It's hard for me because I have different relationships with each of my kids. And for Isaac, I don't feel guilty for doing it because, and I don't know why. I don't know if it's the birth order. I don't know if it's because I grew up with him. I do not feel bad not doing that stuff for Isaac because I feel like I know what he's capable of. And he's so of and he's so much like me. He's a self starter, self motivator, self all those things. And so I've never really had to, I've never really felt guilty for not doing those things because he was already

doing it. Lincoln is very much a weaponized incompetence. I don't know how to fold this blanket. Pretend to fold it just so I can do it. And so I feel guilty in some ways, like making him do certain things, but I'm going against who I am as his parent. I'm not his friend. I'm not here to pick up the slack. Like you have to learn how to do this because this is going to be a situation, not him specifically, but just like an example. I don't need him to get and become an adult and get into a relationship. And then it's your mama didn't raise you. Yes. All right, you guys, summer is on its way and there's no better place to go for outdoor

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For Jackson to be 18 years old, get out on his own, and some girl be saying some of the same stuff that we've said. Yes, like I can't, like you are not about to sit here and tell me that I didn't teach my son to do X, Y, and Z because I certainly fucking did. So that- It's easier to just do it, right? Yeah, but as a parent and as their moms, we have to prepare them for... I specifically

use college and whether my kids go to college or not, it scares me because that's where they're going to have to go do the laundry and go do all of the things on their own first, I feel, if they choose to go. And I'm so scared for them to like not do it. I used to know this girl that went to a large school in college and her mother and grandmother went and did her laundry for her every week. And then became an adult outside of college, right?

And I knew this girl through somebody that I knew who was in a relationship with her. Didn't know how to do jack shit as I would say as a woman, but I feel like all people need to know how to do this stuff. Like it's not just a woman's job. It's not just a pink job. It's not just a blue job, right? Which that brings me to my next thing.

Do you have pink and blue jobs at your house? No. It's just like, whoever does whatever. Yeah, whoever does whatever. Like, I'll go down to the farm and do farm tours. Like, I don't care. Like, I don't feel like I am too good because I'm a woman that I can't go and like, pressure wash off my porches or like clean a grill or and were you doing that stuff when you were with Will? Like were you pressure washing and stuff

while you were married to him? Oh yeah. Yeah, see I do think that there, I remember Alessandra having this conversation about this because it's one of those things where it's like, okay, we don't wanna do, what is it, like gender roles, but there are just certain things that I'm like, I don't want to do, what is it, like gender roles, but there are just certain things that I'm like, I don't want to do it. But I also think like growing up, just trying to survive

and then also being a single mom, I didn't really have a choice. I think right now, like I'm lazier because I can hire help. But if it comes down to it, I'll do all the jobs. I don't love them, but I'll do all the jobs. I mean, there's a lot of jobs that I don't love, but it goes back to the conversation that you and I've had before. If in a relationship and there's two adults in the household, it doesn't have to be a pink job or it doesn't have to necessarily be a blue job for you to do it. It's whoever's better and more efficient at that job. Yes. Like whoever can get it done quickly, correctly,

all the things. No, I'm completely aligned with you. Like you might not be great at laundry, but somebody that you're with might be great at laundry. And now that you know how to use a pressure washer, maybe you would be better suited pressure washing. Literally, oh my God, wait. So I have, I told you this before,

I have sliding glass doors in my bedroom that go on to like a little covered porch and I have an indoor outdoor cat. One of the cats is indoor outdoor. She's great, cause she doesn't use litter box in the house. She only goes shit outside. That's an interesting cat. She's great.

It's a girl and her name is Gumball Venom, Barn Cat Gumball Venom. She likes to bring me gifts. Oh no. We live in the middle of nowhere and it's a farm and so there's field mice. What's great about her is that she'll never let them come to the house because she gets them before they come close. And when I was pressure washing said litter boxes, I went over to the back porch where my room is

and there was a gift for me. So I had to pressure wash that right off the. Listen, I'm never changing my mind about cats, but. No, outdoor cats are great because they will make sure they get, they won't let rodents come because I live on a farm. Like this was always, this was an Amish farm before I like built on it. You know what I mean? So cats considered predators. Are they predatory animals? Yeah, I think so. I think so. We don't need them in our house. Are you looking it up? Yeah, I am because I think they are.

I think our cats, they're both. It says they're both? Yeah. They're considered apex predators. Okay, well, last thing that I want to ask you about the cats, I have always heard that cat shit and piss is far worse than dog shit and piss. Oh, if your cat pisses in the house somewhere, you're never getting that out. You are never getting it out. I don't care if you replace the carpet. I don't care if you get a new

couch. I don't care. Like you're never getting cat piss out of anything. Someone told me that it's such a distinct smell. No, it's so like you never have to have a cat in your entire life. Never been around cats in your entire life and you smell cat piss, you know it's cat piss. No ma'am. And I have a cat that has anxiety. She's on gabapentin and she, because she- It's not gabapentin.

Which is so funny. When I got out of surgery in December, they prescribed me gabapentin, which I don't know. It's used for anxiety, but it's also used for, I think, nerve pain, if I'm not mistaken. Don't kill me if I got that wrong. So I had it for my surgery, but my cat got prescribed it because she has anxiety because of she, it's frequently used in MS actually. Okay. Good to know. So I had a prescription for gabapentin. My cat also got prescribed gabapentin, but hers was for anxiety because she was pissing and shitting. Is she still pissing and shitting?

Yes. And she's on it? No, I haven't. How do you give a cat that has anxiety gabapentin on a regular fucking basis? Oh, so you're only giving it to her every other day? I'm only giving it to her when I can fucking catch her and I can put it in her mouth. Cats don't like cheese? No, my cat doesn't.

My cat doesn't like any. I think because there's so much going on in my house, it's just pure chaos all the time. She's so skittish and we rescued her. So she came from a shelter. Bless her little heart. Yeah. It's really, I mean, truthfully, I don't like to give away animals, but if there was a single person or two adults in a home that we're like, we would take her, I probably would give her up only because it would be best for her.

So she's a great cat. It's chaotic here. It's pure chaos. Yeah. Maybe we have to rehome. My Botox won't let me pout. Okay. Wait, we have really great listener topics this week, so I want to get to them.

The first person says, would you consider wanting to know who would be living in your child's other home with them, a normal co-parenting request, or is this just how it is when you're divorced? My son went to his dad's and texted me that he had a new girlfriend and she had already moved in. This was my son's first time meeting her and I'm pretty upset about it. I do think it's important to have those conversations if that is what the co-parenting... I think this is a very layered and this is a layered question, right? I don't think that I reached out to my kids' dads and the way you both got out of breath. It's one of those things where it depends on the co-parenting relationship. I don't remember reaching out to

my kids' dads and saying, hey, he's moving in. Do I think that we should all be reaching out as co-parents to say, hey, I'm in a new relationship and so-and-so is moving in? How do you want to proceed with our child? Do I think that's what should be happening? Yes. Do I under do I know that life is life and that's not it's not that black and white also, yes. See, I feel like this is wrong altogether. Personally, I feel like it is 100 percent. If my son went to his dad's house and some girlfriend had moved in And that was the first time he had ever met her now

You're making my son uncomfortable because he hasn't had enough time to process from meeting her to her moving in. So you're setting the situation up for failure and now you have failed as a co-parent with me. I agree. So like probably filing something with the court. But in my experience, I don't know how other states work, but in my experience, they would literally say you don't get a say on what happens during dad's time.

Well if it's in your court order that says that someone cannot cohabitate with you unless you are married. But no judge is going to order that. That would have to be a joint, like Kristin and I just talked about this. That would be something that you have to agree to with the co-parent without the court, because I have asked the court so many times to have a very explicit order like you have, and they do not give one single fuck. They're not going to do that. My attorney advised Will and I both through the mediation process,

you guys need to settle this here. Because if you do take this to court, I can promise you neither of you are gonna be happy. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I'd gone through it twice and neither one of us were happy. That sucks, this sucks. But I don't know, like,

this was my son's first time meeting her. That sucks, it really does. I mean, I just don't understand, like, this was my son's first time meeting her. That sucks. It really does. I mean, I just don't understand as an adult how you would put your child in the situation of first time meeting and moving in. That is irresponsible, in my opinion. Also don't you think it's a little too soon if the person hasn't met your child and you don't know how they're going to communicate with each other, you don't know how their rapport is going to be

with each other, don't you feel like that's something that should have been done and led up to versus just, oh, this is my girlfriend that you didn't know that I had and she's actually moving in with us? Yeah, that's absolutely irresponsible. It's not okay. And I wholeheartedly agree with you. And what does she say? Would you consider wanting to know who would be living in your child's other home when they're with them normal co-parenting?

Yeah, that's a normal co-parenting request. Do I also understand that they're not gonna always participate with normal requests or what is it, acquiesce to them? Yeah. Is that the right word? Did I use that correctly? That sucks. The whole situation sucks. I mean, that order is so specific that if Will travels with Jackson somewhere and it's any person that's traveling with them outside of the family members that were family members when we were married, I am to be provided a list of who is traveling with them.

And I think that that is reasonable because if something were to happen to Will, and you need to be able to get in touch with somebody on that trip, you need to be able to get in touch with someone, I would agree with you. Just that there was, I mean, God forbid, like some type of crime or something, and I didn't know who was existing in that house. I need to know that not when it happens, but beforehand. Yeah. Because you don't want to be surprised or not know what's going on. Correct. Okay. Next person says, when it comes to someone who is watching your children, do you think

only one parent needs to trust the person or is it necessary for both parents to trust the person? I swear that people are looking at my court order and looking at my court transcripts and they're pulling these scenarios directly out of it. It depends on the relationship. I mean, I would like to say just as adults, we should be able simply to communicate with each other and have these types of conversations. Do I think that that is a realistic statement when I say it?

No, I do not. Do I think people that are in situations that are pretty amicable, like mine and Will's, that would be a normal thing that we would do. Yes. In situations that are high conflict, I don't think that's a normal thing to do. It's really about your trust with your child on your time. I think that's how most people would look at the situation, but do I think it's necessarily right?

No, I don't. In a perfect world, in an ideal world, both co-parents, both parents would trust whoever is going to be with the child. The world is not black and white. The world is not uncomplicated. So unfortunately, you just have to trust that your co-parent is going to do the best they can. But you also have to unfortunately look at the dynamics of people and personalities,

right? So who you might trust might not be somebody that I trust or who I might trust might not be somebody that you trust. So I feel like it's not a black and white situation. I went to dinner one time with two of my girlfriends. This was 2021, I think, around there. And I've known this family for 12 years, right? To this day, I have been around the entire family, spent Christmas with them, the whole nine.

We wanted to go to dinner, the three of us, it was me and the two sisters and their mom was like, I'll watch the baby. Okay, perfect. Baby fell by the pool and scratched his face on the patio. She's a nurse. And so with that being said, I had no questions on whether I trusted her or not. I've known her for a really long time. She's a nurse, whatever. Parent brought that up in court. And it's like, I feel like objectively speaking, both of us could have trusted her because I've known her for so long. She's never given me any reason and accidents do happen. I still would trust her with my kids to this day. Does that make sense? It does make sense. And I think, and this has just come with parenting for 12 years,

I've had to learn accidents do happen. There are certain things that you can prevent and those situations I feel like you will very much understand like this could have been prevented. But then there are certain situations where the child might just be playing and they just got hurt. Yeah. Well, and it too, to piggyback off of that, when a parent has not just my situation, I'm talking across the board, a child or children are going to get hurt more with the parent that has them more because. Yes, because there's more time. Right. And so that was like, my whole thing was like, first of all, he could have, we have a pool.

He could have fell by the pool over here. He could have fell on the sidewalk and the same thing would have happened. So it's, you know. A lot of this stuff in these situations comes with growth and time though, I believe. Yes. Because remember how upset I got when Will got in that golf cart accident and Jackson was like scraped and the proper protocols weren't taken per our order. I now look back at that.

I don't know that I necessarily would have changed the way that I responded necessarily, but I look at it as accidents do happen. I didn't know the entire story. I got a story from Jackson and a kid's perspective and an adult's perspective are very different. Oh, thank you. Can you say that one more time? An adult perspective is very different. Jackson just recently got the electric scooters, one at Will's house, one at my house.

He rides them with his friends. He was riding at Will's and got hurt, scraped his whole face up, his knees, his elbows, all the things. He has not had an accident on his scooter at my house. That doesn't mean that Will was in Jackson was in a more unsafe environment because he was with Will he just happened to get hurt there. Yes. Just like I hate when I hear people who are in co parenting situation say oh that child always comes back sick from dads are sick from moms.

You're like what do you want them to do? Lubricate themselves with fucking hand sanitizer? I don't know what you want from me. But most of the time the people who are saying this are saying this about the co-parent that has the majority time. It's like, there's more room and time for them to get sick. I think a lot of times emotions get heightened because parents aren't always there when the situation happens, right?

So you might have been upset if it would have happened not on your time because you weren't there to comfort him, make sure all the proper care was done, like all of those things. And that's why I got upset when these things have happened. But the second time when he came back and his face was all scraped up from the electric scooter, I'm like, you live and you learn and thanks for wearing a helmet. I mean, yeah, that's all you can do. It's literally all you can do. Okay. The last person says, who has been to Hawaii with kids? Is it worth it? We live in Florida and love to surf. Just wondering if Hawaii would

be worth the cost and time. Yes. Kaila and I have talked about Hawaii quite a few times before. Unless you are saving for a more lengthy trip, I would not suggest going to Hawaii because it takes days to adjust to the time change. Well, also, if you're coming from Florida, I would guess that's the same amount of time from when I was coming from Philadelphia because they're both far East Coast. It was 15 hours and then a six hour time change or a five hour time change, depending on what time of year you go. Right before Creed was born, I took the kids for three weeks. If

you guys are familiar with my custody schedule, I requested my vacation time to be on the dad's week. It was like my week, dad's week, my week. Then that week of their dads was my vacation time. We went to Hawaii for all three weeks. This is when we went with Leah. We went island hopping. We went to Maui, Oahu, and Kauai, I think. And for me, it was like my kids still talk about to this day and if we could make it work again to do it at some point, that's what we would do. I like life changing. My kids loved it. But to Lindsay's point, if you're going for one week, like seven days with kids, I would not recommend at all. I just feel like it's too much adjustment time for not enough time and it's expensive.

I mean, you're going to pay $10 for a gallon of milk. I saved the four seasons and it was absolutely breathtaking. Some of the prettiest beaches that I've ever seen in my life, but just know that it's expensive. There is the time change. And if you have young children, I took Jackson when he was, I think he was three. I love that. Well, so Leah and I, all everywhere that we stayed in Hawaii, we split Airbnb cost. So it was a good idea. Yeah. And because we were there for so long, every single thing that we did, we didn't do together, which was really nice. So it was literally like, our families were going, but we always were doing different stuff. And then we were there for so long, every single thing that we did, we didn't do together, which was really nice.

So it was literally like our families were going, but we always were doing different stuff. And then we would maybe do like a dinner together, you know, at a, like a luau or something like that. Like the actual stay itself wasn't as expensive when we split the cost with another family, because they were Airbnbs that we would split. So that four seasons, I went, the first time I went went to Hawaii, stayed in a hotel and we brought no kids. And I think the second time we went, we, Leah and I went, we stayed in an Airbnb, but we split it between us two and then another

friend of ours. And so it wasn't as expensive either. That's a good money saving tip. Yeah. It was because you're splitting the cost with other adults. If you take your family, you know, you know what I mean? Listen, it's travel tips and tricks from Kale. Imagine I'm like your next travel agent. Well, we have foul play. So my three-year-old son is taking a nap in his crib. Note, he has never crawled out or

escaped. So we decided to lay down for a nap too. I'll get straight to the point here. We were 69ing him on top. All of a sudden I hear, what are you doing? In his little three-year-old lispy voice. Look over and he is standing right where my face was just staring at me. We had no idea how long he had been there. He had never crawled out of his crib before, so we just barely closed our door. This would be the day he learned to crawl out of his crib while his parents were 69ing. I'm mortified and will probably never 69 again. I don't know about you, but 69 just ain't it for me. 69 is for lovers who are just met.

No, because I feel like I wouldn't want my asshole in somebody's face that I just met. asshole in somebody's face that I just met. Like that is such a like invasive situation. And also who has, I understand everybody's not ADHD, but who can focus on like both parts? I'm not focusing on both parts. And I also like gassyness is a real thing for me. I don't want to have to worry about choking on your cock and also holding in farts while you're going down on me. That's not a good time. It's just a weird angle. Maybe other people have gotten the angles more right. I definitely think when you're talking 69, I've really thought deep

into this. Height differences matter. Me trying to crawl all the way up there, but I have to go all the way down here. That's just not really working for me. If I'm not getting off, neither are you. So let me do you and you do me. I agree with you. I also am curious for people who have a really significant height difference. How does that work? Well, Will and I had a significant height difference. I'm 5'4 and he 6'5. Oh my God.

Yeah. And I'm a size 7 and a half shoe and he's a size 14. No, but like when you guys are doing sex, like how do you make that- Doing sex. When you guys are doing sex, how do you, like if you were to do 69 with someone who's that much taller than you, how does the body proportions work? I guess, how does that work? Like is there a time with a height difference that you wouldn't be able to make it work? I mean, it worked. That's it. That was the full thought. It worked.

Quite some period of time, it worked. Do I think that sex is probably better with someone that is closer to your height. Yes, I do. Okay. Just wondering. Wasn't sure. But could you imagine your three-year-old crawling out of a crib, just like lisping? What are you doing? I was like- Can you imagine? The first time Rio crawled out of his crib, and he hasn't done it since, surprisingly.

All of a sudden we just hear because Rio is so he's like me. He's so heavy footed. So we hear. Oh my God. And we're like, what is that? And sure shit. He had crawled out of his crib and his heavy stomping ass was like, do do do do. And I was just like, thank God we weren't doing something dirty. Not doing something dirty. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcast app. Follow in right on Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us

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Oh my God. I love it! Feel the free. Pluto TV. Stream now, pay never. Clocking out of the content factory, I'm Tucker. And I'm Becca. And this is a podcast where we take a break from climbing the absolute corporate ladder that is being a TikToker. That's right. This is the most corporate podcast for the least corporate girlies in this pod. We're in the break room with you guys are gorgeous, gorgeous coworkers. And you may be wondering what goes on in the content factory. Give us the agenda Tucker. Well, each episode starts with

a performance review where we talk about what's going on in the week. Content we're making DMS we're getting A little peek behind the curtain of the content creator life. We also will be doing an HR report. Where we ask you guys during the week what is some workplace drama you got going on. And we'll end each episode with a rapid fire and hire. Things we want to get rid of and things we want to keep. For example, Becca, what do you want to fire this week? Mmm, my IBS.

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