Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Rejuvenate My Kitty

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

CC389: Lindsie is still trying to get this hair training thing under control and Kail admits to doing all the wrong things at the school pick up line. A story about an influencer doing surgery on her hymen has Lindsie and Kail considering doing some rejuvenating work on their kitties and a lot more if they had the patience. A listener asks advice on how to navigate christmas gifts with a child who has behaved extremely problematic this year. Kail has discovered that her overconsumption of Amazon has become a problem and has vowed to pick quality over quantity in 2025. Lindsie is concerned, but more confused, with the recent news of needing to encrypt your text messages. Today's Foul Plays have our favorites - poop and queefs.   Thank you to our sponsor! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month. DraftKings: Download the DraftKings Casino app and sign up with promo code COFFEE RoBody: Find out if you’re covered for free at Ro.Co/COFFEECONVOS. Rx only.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kaila and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Combo's podcast. I look like a hot mess express. I've been sick for days since I got literally since Thanksgiving. I also look crazy today. I traveled home yesterday, dropped the kids off this morning. I'm tired. I need to ask you a question about hair training because I know that you get blowouts like once a week, right?

I've started doing that too on Fridays. My hair right now is still not been washed since Friday and it's Tuesday. Obviously, if I ran a curling iron through it and did something to it, it would look better than what it looks like right now. But how do you absorb the grease and like train your hair? So the idea is to put the dry shampoo in your hair when you get the blowout and the day after you get the blowout because it's preventative. It's not counteractive, if that makes sense. So like you don't want to

wait until your hair gets oily to put dry shampoo in it, you want to put it in before it gets oily. So it absorbs it. Obviously, you can add to it like, as the days go on, I don't have anything I washed my hair last night, I did and I didn't even do it. But that's what you want to do put the dry shampoo in like your when you get your blowout have the hairstylist put some dry shampoo at your roots. Then the next day when you touch it up, do the same thing. How often do you get blowouts and how long do they last?

I try to get a blowout once a week. I missed it yesterday because I was traveling. I get it once a week and then it lasts maybe two to three days because my hair is shorter now. Then by by like the third day, fourth day, I'll start putting it up but it's either I can put it up high because there's so much product in it and it looks like it gives that like sort of messy effortless look. Or I sometimes if it if I'm not doing anything, I'll

just wash it because at that point it's like what whatever. But I've noticed that I'm having some regrowth here. I think the postpartum hair loss is starting to grow back. And so I get these like fuzzy things and I'm like, I just, I need to just slick it back. That's what I need to do. So right now I am in the era of growing my nails out. I took my SNS off because they were just brittle as hell. And I was like, absolutely not. I just need to, and I hate the way nails look

without polish on them. Like I hate it. And my nanny was here the other day and she was talking about how she needed to get all the polish off of her nails because they were all chipped up. And I remember when I was a little kid, I was not allowed to paint my nails

if I could not maintain them paint my nails if I could not maintain them. That's what I tell Isaac. I tell Isaac that I'm like, I don't give a fuck if you paint your nails, but when they start chipping, the second they start chipping, remove the polish and redo them. Like he's not into that anymore. Like that was just like a, like a little, and we all go through our phrases, right? But I think that was part of the reason why he was like

not wanting to do it anymore because the nail polish chips so regularly and it's just like a process. But that's why I do like the SNS because I like that it doesn't chip. Also back to the hair thing really quick. I was told that you should not, if you feel like your hair starts getting greasy when you're trying to train it, just like

you have to rock with it because if you get outside of like the washing pattern then it doesn't get trained. Yes, that's true. That is true. That is true? Yeah. Well, at least from my experience I can't speak for everyone. Okay, well I'm coming in hot with a listener topic and school pickup line is that topic. I can't speak for everyone. Okay, well, I'm coming in hot with a listener topic and school pickup line is that topic. I need to tell you, I am no longer a part of the school pickup line. I don't know if I ever told you that. No. Jackson's an exclusive bus rider in the afternoons now. Oh, that probably makes your life so much more simple. Well, I have to drive a little bit further to go to Will's house to pick him up from the driveway.

However, I can pinpoint exactly when he's gonna get there. So like 2.30 on the dot, I pick him up. Okay, but it gives you a little bit more wiggle room to tie up loose ends before you get him, right? Because he's getting on the bus. Yeah, because I'm not having to get in the freaking school pickup line at 1.30 to get him at 2.30.

Right, right, right, right. I love that. I wish that my kids could be bus riders. Isaac is a bus rider until he gets his license, but the other kids, because we school choice, they don't get buses. I loved when my kids were on the bus because it just was so much more simple.

They could run out the door and just like go right to school. It's been like in the 30s, like temperature wise. So I haven't been walking the kids over to the school because so there's like a parking lot and you can park there and walk your kids over or you can get in the pickup drop-off line. The pickup drop drop off line takes literally 45 minutes longer than walking over. But it's so fucking cold that I it's like and then also because I take Creed and Rio to school in the mornings. Most mornings I take them so to take two basically toddlers out of the car to then walk over and sometimes Rio wants to walk sometimes he does

it he's fucking heavy. I don't it's just not worth it. So in the winter months, while it's freezing, I'm in pickup line and that is another 45 minutes that I had to add to everything, which is so frustrating. Obviously first world problems, but I mean, I feel like it's problems that everybody that's listening to this, that our parents can relate to, but this person says, waiting already for 10 minutes and someone ahead of me got out of the car and went inside and got their kiddos early. Then they leave, the person behind the car that left has not moved up yet and left a gap. Someone comes in and passes us four cars

and parks in the empty spot. This is twice I have seen this happen. Is this rude or not? First of all, that is absolutely rude. I don't know, because at that point, it's like you're not moving up. Like what do you want? Like they want to get their kid just as fast as everybody else. If you're not moving up to make room, I'm probably going to go around you too. I'm not going around because I know I'm about to get cussed out. Like I'm not being a part

of that. And some people, I swear to you, the shit that I've seen in the school pickup line is insane. Like people taking naps, conference calls, because you can hear their Bluetooth, like from the outside of the car, if you have your window down, it's conference calls, putting together a salad. Like, I've probably done every single one of those things that you said, except for this is a PSA for all parents in the pickup line. We can, this is a PSA for everybody everywhere. If you have an important or private conversation, do not connect your car to Bluetooth

because we can hear it from the outside. I will sit in the parking spot next to you at Party City and I will listen to the gossip that you are speaking in your car. 100%, like I am rolling down my window immediately when I hear that somebody is on the Bluetooth because I want to know what they're saying. Why do people not realize that you can hear them from the outside? I knew that the second

I had Bluetooth and I connected the call for the first time, I knew immediately you could hear this from the outside. I have also put salads together in the car, eaten food, read a book, probably taken a nap during my pregnancy. I've done all of those things, so I'm not even mad at it. But also, our school where we do pick up and drop off Lincoln and Luxe School, they do a really, really good job monitoring those gaps. They would never have let that fly. Oh, I feel like you might have gotten a ticket in Jackson School pick up line or something like that. I don't know if a ticketing thing is an option, but I feel like you might have gotten a ticket in Jackson School pick up line or something like that. Like I don't know if a ticketing thing is like an option, but I feel like you would

definitely get hollered at by administration for sure. Yeah, they do a really good job with trying to keep the flow because people are so dense and they don't listen and they don't follow directions and they don't, it just feels like common sense to the rest of us to do certain things. And like, I don't know, that gap would have never happened at Lexa school. I'll tell you that brings me to my next point in relationships, like, I feel like I am so adamant about either we're committed or we're not.

And there are no expectations outside of a commitment. Because if you're out here just dipping it wherever then you are getting fulfillment in different ways from each of those people that you are dating I guess like in this dating culture you're getting fulfillment from each of those things in a different way how will you ever know unless you are committed to one person that that person is the person for you, when you're getting fulfillment everywhere. So then you get a false sense of like this fulfillment that you really don't have.

I think, in theory, that sounds good. But I think a lot of times, and I'm not saying it's always men, because I've done it myself. But I think more times than not, it's men over women that are not willing to be honest about think more times than not, it's men over women that are not willing to be honest about it though. Like it sounds good to be like, we're either committed or we're not, but I feel like so many times men will say certain things

and then their actions don't match. And so you think that you're committed, but they're actually just telling you what you want to hear so that they're fulfilling whatever need they need to fill out that time or they can have their cake and eat it too. And so then you turn around and you think that you're committed and you're actually not. Which is fucked up. Like I don't want to be fucking around with anybody that's like that. Be a little bit more mature and let's be grown, please. Also, people who are out here dating

that have children, I feel like that changes the game in its entirety. I feel like you have a different obligation to take those situations more seriously than just going out here, dating around, playing the field, doing whatever, when there are children that are involved. That one's tough for me because I was doing those things. When I got divorced,

I was, I felt so liberated. I was dating, I was seeing this person, that person. I don't know what the fuck I was doing. I also, and this is just like personally for me, I couldn't go out here and have sexual relations with one person and then, oh, tomorrow I'm going out on a date with this person and I'm gonna have sexual relations with that person. I just think that I'm not wired like that. Yeah, no, I wasn't having sex with people, but like I was definitely hanging out, like entertaining certain people,

but having sex with them, no. I've always been, and like, this is not a judgment for me. I don't ever want it to come across that way, but like I have never been someone who would have sex with multiple people in a short period of time, specifically just because that I'm just not wired that way. But like, will I listen and be entertained by someone else's story? So that does that? Yeah, by all means, do you like I

don't give a fuck. I just personally have never been wired to have sex with multiple people in a short period of time. Yeah, like that is I know, very contrary to popular belief, but that is the truth. Yeah. That's just not a thing for me. And I just don't think that I could ever be comfortable enough in that situation to do that. Honestly, my pH balance is not stable enough for that.

So my pH balance is going to scream at me and be like, Kayle, even if you thought this was a good idea, this is not a good idea. So you can't like you might think about it, but you're not allowed. My cat said no. Your cat is screaming BB. This I'm wearing the show me your kitty shirt. It's the most wonderful time of year holidays on the house at DraftKings casino with the season's offerings. You'll unwrap everything on your list, exclusive games, huge jackpots and exciting rewards. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 instantly and casino credits with just a $10 wager.

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on a vaginal rejuvenation operation. The doctor has warnings about potential risk. The procedure holds a special meaning for me, she says, while describing her decision to cosmetically wind back the clock of her sex life. It's called a hymenoplasty. She could also just be celibate for some time and they can sometimes heal themselves. Well, it says that this is considered a hymen repair

which the surgeon sews together the torn edges of a woman's hymen with dissolvable stitches. It says the patient will bleed the next time she has hanky-panky and would get the feeling of being touched for the first time. Would you do that? Would I do it? Mm-hmm. I mean, based off of the fact that the doctor says that there's huge risk for this, probably

not. Do I think the idea sounds great in theory? Yes. $19,000, that's a little insane. And I feel like everybody knows that I've had sex before, so would I choose to like bleed? I just I feel like the idea of virginity is like a social construct. I just yeah, you're not a virgin. So like physically, you're not right? Like you've had sexual intercourse before. So if we're talking about virginity as like something that can be taken away or whatever, it's like you can't undo that. I don't necessarily know. Like I guess I could see it in a sense of like maybe someone decides to be a born again Christian and they're divorced and then they already had kids and now they want to save

themselves for their husband, their new husband or something like that. And it was more for, you know, their little like religious belief like that. And it was more for their little religious belief or whatever. I don't know. I don't believe in that because I feel like once you've made decisions in your life, those are the decisions that you have made. So going and trying to do a surgery to change those decisions to make yourself feel better just seems a little insane to me. Like let's just maybe acknowledge the fact that you went out and did a bunch of shit that you now feel bad about doing and now you want your hymen repaired. Like that

doesn't fly. She also shared this with her social media followers. That's what it was about. That's what it was about. That's all it was about. That wasn't about anything else other than the views. She says that it symbolizes a fresh start in her personal and professional life. It's for self-esteem and personal reasons that have always been important to me. Okay. Well, therapy would also work probably if you were down.

But also just judging by some of these photos that are on this article, I feel like if these are being posted on Instagram, like not trying to be Judge Judy over here, but they maybe would be like more in line for an OnlyFans account. And I do feel like this is just another way to like try to lure in men to say, okay, well now my hymen's back intact and I'm posting all of these provocative photos. I just feel like it's a like bait and switch type situation. That's exactly what it is.

That's exactly what it is. That is 1000% what it is. And I, I'm, whatever, y'all want to do weird shit free with your own money and get views and do all of that. Y'all can do that, but just know that it's probably a mental illness. I didn't even know that this was a, um, like surgery. I knew that labiaplasty was a surgery, but I didn't know that you could truly repair your hymen. I had no idea.

Yeah. I didn't know that you could repair your hymen because I guess I'm shocked that more people don't do it if that was readily available knowledge. But to each their own, I highly suggest therapy. BetterHelp is a great option. Insert BetterHelp ad right now. Also, would you ever do any type of a surgery that could potentially change the fact of you not being able to be satisfied because that was one of the risks that were involved with this?

No, I would not. And that's, I know that that is a deciding factor a lot of times for people who want their boobs done because there is a risk of losing sensation in your nipples. And you know, that is something that people talk about all the time. Like they don't, they are very sensitive on their nipples and they don't want to get messed with their boobs because of it. And I personally wouldn't touch my private areas that I, if there's a risk for losing sensitivity in, you know, for sexual pleasure or whatever, I'm not going to mess with it. Same. I mean, now would I do like vaginal rejuvenation at some point in my life? Like

I don't need it, but would I do it at some point? Maybe. See, I am interested in doing it. I just think that it could get, like I would love to do like the laser situation, just like a rejuvenation, not because I think I need it. And I don't, Elijah has never complained, but just for my own, clean it up, get a nice Brazilian wax,

clean it up to a little like vaginal rejuvenation, you know, type deal. That's fine. But if there's a laser is going to like harm you in any way, but like an actual surgical procedure, that's a completely different situation. Not doing it. But I am I'm going under the knife soon. How long has it been since you've been Brazilian waxed? Since we went in August. You haven't done it since then? No, it's too far. It's an hour.

It would literally, by the time I leave my house, take the kids to school, I don't wanna shower before I do that because I'm sitting in the car and it's like, I just am weird about it. So drop the kids off at school, come home, shower, drive an hour to the appointment. The appointment itself takes like 30 minutes,

grab lunch there, an hour, it's like an entire, like a half a day process. It's not worth it to me, I just shave. I can't stand, I cannot stay on the feeling of being shaved like in that area anymore. I know, I hate it too. I really don't like it. I don't like any of it, but.

Once you've gone the wax route, you don't wanna go back the other way. After we posted the videos and the clips of like that whole thing, everyone's like, just get laser, just get lasered. It's the same thing though, because lasering is also an hour away. So it's an entire day process.

And I like, it's not super high up on my priority list because I'm in a committed relationship Where I don't give a fuck and I can just shave and it's I don't love it But like I just don't have and then I think Somebody I talked to about laser said it hurts so bad and she had to get like I think it was like six to eight Sessions and it's like I do not have six to eight days to go somewhere and have this done Oh, wait is laser only six to eight days to go somewhere and have this done. Oh, wait, is laser only six to eight sessions? I would know it depends on the person like they'll they'll like quote you for how many sessions they think that you'll that it'll take or whatever. And so for her, it was like six to eight. I don't know what mine would

be. But so for example, like I don't have it in my schedule or truly, it's not on the top priority list for me to like schedule those days out. I haven't gotten Botox in like three months because I don't have the time to take a full day to go do it because the place that I go to is in Pennsylvania. Okay. But also the laser thing, I know that that sounds great in theory, but that means that you can't shave for like a very long period of time because I think there has to be a certain amount of growth for that so that's

A long time commitment like what do you tell your man by the way? I'm like in a lasering process and so I can't clean up. Yeah, absolutely not Yeah, I mean Elijah doesn't care so We love hot neighbor We just we love him The next person says, I need thoughts and help because I feel like a shit mom, but I am at my last straw. Christmas is right around the corner and I have four boys. My oldest is eight, almost nine. He has been an absolute nightmare this year. I think a lot of it is school and friends related. He's in therapy for his

behavior and taking meds, but it doesn't seem to do much. He keeps asking for things for Christmas from us and Santa. He got a letter that he's on the naughty list and still says things like, oh, it's fine, I will get gifts. It doesn't matter how I act, grandma will still get me gifts. I'm at a loss for what to do because he's ruined any activity that we have done as a family for Christmas cheer and doesn't seem to care. Now it's time to get Christmas gifts. And honestly, I don't want to get him anything. I feel like an awful mom this year, but I have really been trying

to do the crime fits, the time punishment. I don't know. What are your thoughts? Sincerely a really defeated mom. Flat out, he gets one thing. He's getting one gift because that is the boundary, right? You feel bad because you're his mom. Obviously you love him. You don't want to see him wake up. But I think that would be a wake up in my opinion. And obviously you don't know until you try it.

That would be a wake up call for everyone involved because he is going to be very shocked. He's going to have a reality check on Christmas morning. And that would be a boundary that you have to set with, with mother-in-law or mom, whichever grandma is, you know, getting the gifts or whatever. But no, that's a hard no for me. That's something that has been very, very difficult for me when just staying true to what you're saying. Like if you were, if you were going to threaten XYZ punishment or discipline, you have to act on it or these kids will figure you the fuck out and they don't give a shit.

I just feel like this mom, as defeated as she sounds, she also has to understand that Christmas is also going to be hell if she chooses to dig her heels in. And you need to accept that now before it gets here because if a child already has behavioral issues and they also have the mindset that it doesn't matter how I act, I'm gonna get whatever I want anyway,

that child's absolutely going to show their ass on Christmas day when there's one gift under the tree. Here's the thing to, you know, whoever wrote this in, I don't think you're a bad mom. I think that you are doing the best you can. You feel like you're defeated and we've all been there. You're not alone in that. I think that you are doing the best you can. You feel like you're defeated. And we've all been there. You're not alone in that. I'll tell you that right now. You're definitely not alone. And I think in the long run, this could potentially be a very big

lesson for, you know, your child. And I personally do not think you're a bad mom at all. I don't think that, I mean, it's easy for me to say, don't feel guilty because, you know, I'm not in the situation, but I have definitely been in a position where I had to, I had to act on what I was saying. I feel like also with Christmas, and I've tried to explain this to Jackson, as a Christian, it is not about the giving and receiving. And that took several years for him to understand the full concept of why it's not about giving and receiving. I also just think that kids today, I feel like kids get so much today versus when we were kids. Not that I didn't get anything. That's not what I'm saying, but I just feel like all throughout the year, I find myself purchasing

all of these random things, like whatever it is that he wants, then it's like, okay, well, if you get X grades, then you can get whatever. That's not how it was whenever I was growing up. It was like, okay, you, I believe it was on Thanksgiving day or the day after Thanksgiving, the paper came out with all of the like sales ads and stuff from all the different retailers. And we would go through and like circle certain things. At Christmas, we always got like blue jeans. And in our stockings, it was like socks and panties and new toothbrushes and like that kind of stuff. I feel like today's children, if you got them some of those things for Christmas, they would

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now for what they want. They send the links, the direct links to these things. And then the mom's like, Oh, I was going to get you this. And the kids react like what? Like, no, I want this. I don't think it's funny. I don't think it's funny. I don't think it's cute.

I don't think it's any of that. And that's one of the reasons why I stopped doing one of them Several reasons why I stopped doing Christmas, but one of them is that they get all year They don't have anything like what are you looking forward to one of my kids up for their birthday this year Asked me if they were getting more gifts Wait one of them asked that What did you do? I said no, I said that gift was so expensive. You're you don't you're not getting anything else I think it's also hard for children based on age I said that gift was so expensive, you're not getting anything else.

I think it's also hard for children based on age because they don't understand the true concept of a dollar. That when they see like one singular gift, they would rather, certain children would rather have like a plethora of things versus having one like very expensive gift. And I remember going through this when I got in high school, that my siblings were so much younger than me. So the tree would be filled, you know, with little stuff. And then my stuff was like, okay, well, you wanted a Louis Vuitton handbag. So that is your big gift or you know, like a new cell phone, like that is the big gift. And know, like a new cell phone.

Like that is the big gift. And you're not going to be able to unwrap 25 different things. That's just the gift. And I think that children just really don't understand how much stuff costs. And I told Jackson for Christmas, I said, you need to think realistically about things that you want to entertain yourself at home, where we don't have to go somewhere all the time to spend money to do entertaining things. And this was one of the things that was on his list

for like his bedroom. Oh, we have that. Lincoln has that. Pro Mini Hoop XL edition. I'm like, I'm perfectly fine with buying stuff like that because number one, he plays basketball. Number two, it's something that entertains him at home and it's like a gift that just keeps on giving. I don't want to be purchasing stupid shit that they're going to play with for five minutes and then it finds the trash next week.

Okay. Let's talk about overconsumption for a second because now that you've said that all week, okay, so I did a, I got a couple clothing items off Amazon. Okay. And try to follow the bouncing ball here because I think that the my point is going to come full circle. But I also don't want to buy junk. So you just said that you don't want to buy something that is only going to entertain somebody for five minutes. I feel the same way about all things lately. Like I've been sort of looking at my over consumption, like the quality is so bad. It is not lasting what it needs to last. And I know that not everyone is going to see things the same way

that I'm about to say them. But I was getting in the habit of buying things because they were more affordable, but they're not lasting. They're not great quality. They don't feel good on my body. They don't fit as well as something that is higher quality and costs a little bit more. So I am know I'm making this conscious effort that whatever I have from Amazon is going to go through its life cycle. It is going to be donated when it runs its course. And I will not be purchasing clothes from Amazon anymore. Because the part of the problem is, I'm seeing all these cute clothes,

and they look so cute on the, you know, people that are posting about them, and they look cute on the ads, and they look, I get them, and they're awful. I do not wanna be spending money on those types of things for myself. I'm not gonna do it for my kids. So if that means that I have to take a break

from getting something that's cute, or getting clothes so that I have the funds to spend the money on a quality item or quality, you know, shopping trip, that is what we're doing. I'm doing the same thing for my kids. Do not ask me for junk because time and time again, my kids will ask me for a toy that they have to fucking have I order it. And it is from the fucking transit trenches of hell. And it falls apart. It is not as advertised and I'm so fucking sick

of falling into this over consumption, like needing to have all these things. Let's buy quality items that are built well that last. I'm not doing the junk thing anymore across the board. To your point about Amazon, I'm still going to be a major Amazon purchaser. Like I, I love Amazon and I feel like the best way to shop Amazon is to truly look at the reviews before you buy the items. Are you going to get mixed reviews? 100% one person's

gonna love it, one person's gonna hate it. I send back a ton of stuff from Amazon. Well, they have all new rules with returning stuff. You're not guaranteed a refund at all. Which is just insane because it's like I'm using Amazon for the convenience of using Amazon, which is why, in my opinion, it was created in the first place. I don't want to go to the store anymore because I'm so used to using Amazon. I will Amazon myself batteries for my smoke detector or Amazon myself, I don't know, just

random shit that I need around this place instead of going to the store. I love Amazon, but I do think that we fall into a trap of this fast fashion trend that we need all of these next best things for less money. And to your point, sometimes it's just better to save the money and get the more expensive item instead of buying the dupe. Well, I like Amazon for the convenience and I like Amazon for products that are like I'm buying them for the convenience, but you can get them at the store, but it's for the convenience. I'm not buying clothes. Like this jacket is from American Eagle and I think it's three

or four years old. I'm still fucking wearing it. The Amazon stuff that I have that is falling apart, I'm not doing that. I'm not getting, like, I just can't, I'm not doing it anymore because for what? Let's invest in quality pieces that we can keep for a long time so that we don't, we're not doing, like if we have staples that are quality pieces, we're not going to have to... And people are going to be like, well, Kale, it's more affordable. Kale, we don't have the money that you have. Kale, we don't. Great. Then let's set up a budget so that we're buying quality pieces that last a long time. And we don't have to buy Amazon stuff all the time because it's more affordable because we have staple pieces

that have lasted us two fucking years. This is very true. Also, I need to know talking about budgeting and over consumption. Does anybody else have children that they went through a phase when you went to the grocery store that they had to get all of like the stuffed animals or like the little, what do they call those kinder eggs and like, because they had a toy in it. Absolutely not anymore. I'm not doing that anymore. Wait, what do you mean?

Just because they have fucking Tiabini babies at Publix doesn't mean that we're getting a new Tiabini baby because we're here. Or we need to get a kinder egg because we don't even care about the chocolate that's involved in it. It has a tiny toy that has 19 pieces in it That's gonna get thrown away tomorrow. I

Agree, I agree. We're not doing that anymore. I don't even buy like if we go to McDonald's, I'm not getting happy meals What do you get a little 10 piece? Lux and Creed can split a 10 piece five chicken nuggets each and split a Medium fry and call it a fucking day because what am I buying that like we don't need to do this like we're I Love McDonald's, but we're gonna split a 20 piece y'all each get 10 you know what I mean like there's no reason for us to buy like with the McDonald's happy meal box and then the the toy that's in there and then the it's just too much Let's not go for those that do go to fast food places and order kids meals and

that do go to fast food places and order kids meals and your kids don't play with the toys, I always take, I will order Jackson a happy meal and I will take the toy out before I give it to him because I know he's not gonna play with it and then I will find a shelter or like a church or something that takes little items like that that are unopened for children that are in need? Let's start a thread on the Coffee Combo's Facebook page.

Alisa can do it, we can do it, whoever gets to it first. Let's start a thread for all the ways, like ideas for to not over consume. Just little things that you have found that work for you guys that might work for somewhere else. And maybe it's starting really somewhere else and maybe it's starting really small like maybe it's something so so small, but it might have a bigger impact right like let's start

a thread on that because they just feel like we're talking about these things and maybe there's other things that I haven't thought of yet. That is like just I don't know like even for example like my books. I had bought Elijah Kindle and I'm like hold on before you use the Kindle, anything that I already have any book that I already have that you have that you want to read? Can you read the book that I like that we have physical copies for so it gets another use before we do

you know what I mean? And I know that sounds crazy. And I don't know if that necessarily falls under under consumption, or like over consuming. But I'm like, let's use what we have multiple times before you and Isaac too, because Isaac asked his birthday is coming up and he asked me for a Kindle. But I'm like, hold on. Should we read what we already have and then we'll we'll circle back on the Kindle thing. But then also Kindle you're not printing paper. So like that also might contribute.

You already have it. I don't know. Let's just start a thread. I want to do some under consumption in, not under, I don't want to do over consumption in 2025. A great way I feel like for my household would be to actually eat leftovers. Oh, that's a good one. Some of my kids don't eat leftovers. Jackson doesn't mind leftovers, but it has to be like, I don't know, like a pasta dish. Does anybody else's kids hate roast? Because that's the easiest thing for me to put in the crock pot and Jackson will not

eat it. He's like, it's stringy meat. Yeah, my kids don't like roast. Isaac will eat roast, but the other kids know. The babies don't like it. But like, if I make spaghetti, he will eat that multiple times over. So I feel like- That's what we had last night. If we're talking about consumption issues, then that's where we're gonna start in my house in 2025, is being a little bit more mindful that we do have food here and we don't need to go out to eat for every meal.

Yep, I agree. I've also been, if we don't get to the leftovers before they go bad, we give them to the animals outside. Like the- Oh, you do? the oh you do and stuff. Yeah, cuz they Obviously it can't be like rotten or have mold on it. Obviously don't want to feed that to the animals But if it's like, okay, this is day three. It's not quite bad But we're not gonna eat it. I'll go give it to the the goats love anything like if it's cereal That's a little stale. They'll love it

Well, I don't have any outside animals to give my leftover food to, so we just need to consume it. Yeah, for sure. No, I agree. I think that that's a great goal. I just wrote that down. I was writing down. I'm going to go through my subscriptions again. I'm going to get on Rocket Money and have them go through my subscriptions again because there's too much going on. If you guys are curious about Ozempic or Wagovi, but you're not sure if your insurance covers it,

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and Android users to stop sending texts to each other. Wait, like from an iPhone to an Android or from an Android to an iPhone? Yeah, both. Well, that would be problematic for one situation in my life. So this was through Forbes.com and it says that now the FBI and CISA, the US Cyber Defense Agency are warning Americans to use responsibly encrypted messaging and phone calls where they can. The backdrop is the Chinese hacking of US networks that is reportedly ongoing and likely larger in scale than previously understood. What's happening is that without end to end without fully end to end encrypted messaging and calls, there has always been a

potential for contact to be intercepted. That's the entire reason that Apple, Google, and Meta advise its use, highlighting the fact that they can't see the content. According to a senior FBI official, within the investigative activity, especially one this significant and this large, the facts will evolve over time. The continued investigation into the PRC targeting commercial telecom infrastructure has revealed a broad and significant cyber espionage, how do you pronounce that? S-P-I-O-N-A-G-E campaign. So basically what's happening is, well, this one says that Jeff Green,

he is part of the CISA, strongly urging Americans to use your encrypted communications where you have it. We definitely need to do that. Kind of look at it, what it means long-term, how we secure our networks, that China is getting a hold of messaging in different networks through Android

and iPhone communications, and that's actually terrifying. Yeah, but what's the alternative? Are they saying to use like WhatsApp? Green added that our suggestion that we have told folks internally is not new here. Encryption is your friend, whether it's on text messaging or if you have the capacity to use encrypted voice communication,

even if the advisory is able to intercept the data, it is encrypt, if it is encrypted, it will make it impossible. The thing is, we don't know how to encrypt our stuff. So like, I don't know what this means. I have people that are Android users that I would text. I actually texted someone and he goes, is this real? And I was like, no, it's definitely real,

but I don't know what that means to encrypt our messages. Like, I don't know. First of all, I just need to send the message. That's all I need to do. I don't need to be worrying about China hacking me. I'm also not downloading extra apps that are more secure for me to be able to communicate. I feel like that's just an extra step. I absolutely hate apps. I know that that's probably an unpopular opinion, but I just hate like unnecessary freaking apps. I don't want all that shit on my phone. I just want it to be bare bones. Honestly, if I could go back to a sidekick

or like a razor, I absolutely would. This says Apple's iOS 18.2 due this month will enable iPhone users to change the default messenger on their devices from iMessage from iMessages. So I think that the idea here is to change iPhone iMessage to text message only. Oh, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that because I like the features that come with iMessage and I don't talk about anything incriminating or that's like scandalous. Like I don't necessarily care. But that is that's what it says at the end of this article and we

can post the link to the article. I'm going to write it on here. Post. And if China wants to hack me, well, you're going to get a hold of stupid conversations that mean nothing to you. Yeah, it's like not. I mean, I don't know what that means. Can you remember like way back when, I feel like what, when did iMessage come out? 2008. That's what I thought around 2008. What was life like before then when we were just sending text messages and had to type so many different letters to like get the message across?

It took us so long. So when I showed my kids that, they were so, they didn't understand. They were like, they thought, when I was telling my kids, they thought that I was speaking in code. They thought when I was saying, you hit the number five twice for the letter K,

they thought it was like five, five. That would come up on the screen and then you basically have to decipher the codes and I was like, no, I was trying to explain to them that when you hit the button that many times it changes to the letter. They were not, they were not comprehending. They didn't get it.

But think about us texting, like that really just passed. And then once you figure out how to work T9, game over. Yeah, T9, it's game over. But like, I loved having a sidekick and a razor phone because when you started hanging up on people, it was just like so dramatic. Oh, it was the best. I mean, my sidekick that I had was the Gecko one,

so it wasn't as like smooth because it like swooped around. But like a sidekick, any of the flip, just any flip phone in general, just like hanging up was like it. It's like, fuck you. And it was so dramatic that it really like got the point across. Oh, 1000%. And then I had like, I have one right now for the noise factor so that it could be like, I always got secondhand. I had a secondhand razor. I had a secondhand side or no, I sidekick was like I saved up my money for that Secondhand phones in general. I also had the slide phone that was cool and it would like oh, yeah

Oh, yeah, those were good. Those were the good days, you know, I mean Remember like back when blackberries were cool. Oh, I got a secondhand blackberry with no internet Oh, honey, Todd got me a Blackberry World. So it had like the large keypad on it. And I lost my ball out of it. And that phone is basically not usable without a ball. Like my little track ball. Do a little graphic with all the old,

like a razor, sidekick. And then I had a Blackberry Pearl. I strolled around with that for like a good amount of time whenever I was in college. I had one too. And I thought it was so cool because I had a Blackberry, but I got one of the first razors. Remember when they came out with like the hot pink razor? Yeah, that's I had the secondhand one. Oh, honey, I had that.

I got it from the mall kiosk and I thought I was like the coolest. Oh, no, we have to do a little a little graphic for that because those old old school phones were the shit. It was that that was the same time that like American Eagle jeans were like the it thing. They still are the thing we brought them back. Who? Everybody American Eagle jeans and Abercrombie jeans are everything. I haven't had a pair of American Eagle jeans or Abercrombie jeans since I was in high school.

Oh my God. I wore Abercrombie jeans yesterday. Do I need to get on this trend? Yes. And I'm wearing Abercrombie sweatpants right now. I love that for you. I saw this article on parents.com and it kind of like made me think.

And I feel like I need to have a conversation with Jackson at this point. Should kids be yelling mom instead of help when in danger? This is a viral TikTok video that theorizes the maternal safety instincts should be activated more regularly in the wild. Though many parents might long for days when their kids aren't calling their names, seemingly every few minutes there may be some hidden positive yield

from it. A viral TikTok video from a creator says that she explains why she taught her daughter to scream mom instead of help if she's ever in trouble in a public space. She theorizes in the video that when a woman hears their child scream to the world, they'll immediately rush to check on this child's safety. Women will come to help the video caption tread. The video itself has garnered over 3.7 million likes to the point. Folks across the board agree that the instinct is real. Commenters on the video seem very much on board with the tactic for teaching children how to respond to scary potentially dangerous situations.

One parent says that she does something similar in her own family. I tell my kids to yell mom and run to a woman. We've had a conversation about this. I don't know. So I'm a little confused because initially when you started reading this, I thought that like if the child was hurt to scream mom, which I don't necessarily agree with. I think if a child is tripped and fell and scrapes their knee or breaks their leg,

yelling mom is not gonna necessarily, I don't know. But if it's like somebody's like stalking them, there's a, you know, somebody that is like, like seems very dangerous or has tried to like lure them into the car, you say mom and you run to a woman, that makes sense to me. So I think it's sort of unclear what, what situations they're referring to. I feel like in a situation of where your child is like physically hurt, yelling help is probably going to get my attention more than yelling, mom, because mom could just be like, can I get a bottle

of water? That's what I was going to say next is my kids have a, specifically the middle ones, have this habit of, mom, mom, mom, and they say it over and over and over again without even like, I have not even had point two seconds to respond saying like, yes, or like what or anything. So yelling mom to me, unless there's like a change in the, in the voice and the, in the, what is it like? Yeah. I'm not, I may not respond to it right away because I'm so used to mom, mom, mom, mom. Creed did it this morning. And I said, Creed, I didn't even get to open my mouth before you were saying it again.

Oh, listen, Jackson is like that too. And it drives me absolutely nuts because no matter if he is like right in front of my face or he's yelling from a distance it's hey mom mom mom my dad used to say when we were growing up he said I'm changing my fucking name yeah I'll say I'm changing my name to asshole and you can't say that yeah like I just get so sick and tired of hearing it over and over and over again and I'm like you know what I need to just calm down because eventually he's not gonna be yelling mom anymore And I'm like, you know what? I need to just calm down because eventually he's not gonna be yelling mom anymore

and I'm gonna miss that. But then, so then there's situations where, and maybe you have experiences too, where like my kid is physically hurt and says, mom, but I do not rush to them because they're saying mom. And I'm so used, like, for example, like over the summer Lux fell and scraped his knee outside. And I heard him say, Mom, but nothing, nothing in his voice different was different enough

to alert me to it was immediate. You know what I mean? So he scraped up his knee. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, like, I'm so sorry, because I didn't realize that it was a sense of urgency. Yeah, because if they're just constantly yelling mom over and over and then this could be the same for dad, you know, over and over again, there is no sense of urgency because it is nonstop. I just, I don't know. I think that article needs to be a little bit more specific because I mean, if there's

a date, like a weird person, then yes, like running and saying mom and like it's any woman. I don't know. That's just, I don't know. That just, I don't know. So it says, many commenters share that they don't have kids themselves, but will always look around for a child in need of help if they hear the word mom screamed, which I do kind of agree with.

I do feel like the majority of people, the majority of women, if, I don't know, maybe I was in a McDonald's and I was in the bathroom and Jackson started yelling, Mom, I do think the majority of women would turn around and look to try to help a child. So I do kind of agree with that part. This woman says, I heard a little boy scream, Mom, and I stepped out into the street to try to see him. One commenter writes, you are correct. I have no kids, but women will come. I am a non-mother also instinctively stop, look and listen when a

child screams, any scream sound or sound scared with a specific pitch. So I don't know. Like, are we yelling help or are we telling our kids to yell mom? I'm saying yell help. Well, it sounds like moms are gonna come regardless. So I'm just gonna tell them to yell help. Okay, but are you a mom that will try to help another child if you hear mom yell, because I will. Yes, yes. I have, I literally have,

they don't even have to scream help. And I'm like, are you okay? Like are- Oh yeah. Like we've been in the park- You know what I mean? It's like I've done that and they didn't even have to scream help. And I'm like, Are you okay? Like, are Yeah, like we've been in the park. I've done that. And they didn't even have to yell anything. So I that I think a woman in general, I feel like most women who have any sort of like, maternal instinct, maternal instincts is going to come whether they say mom or they say help or they say like,

they're just crying in general, and they look like, you know, something is wrong or they're lost or whatever. I just, I feel like that's like natural regardless. I would be interested to know anybody who's listening to this, who is a woman, if you have a different feeling about this, like you would not help somebody else's child. I mean, obviously I wouldn't probably be, I definitely wouldn't be at a park if I didn't have a child, but there's been certain times where a little kid's gotten hurt, like on the monkey bars or on a slide, and then somebody else is coming down,

like I will help that child. Right, because the mom, I mean, and to each their own, I'm not judging this, but like someone else's mom, like another child's mom might be sitting on the other side of the park and the child is mostly, what is it, self-sufficient in the park. And so they don't have to be right there, you know, helicoptering. So yeah, I'm going to help somebody's kid up. I mean, obviously there's always going to be the risk that you run like,

okay, this person's might sue me. But I mean, you have to think about like... See, I don't even think about that stuff. Like in an urgent situation, I don't think about, oh, somebody's going to sue me for doing the right thing. Like instinctively the right thing. It happens though. Yeah, well, that's fucking crazy. And on that note, we've got foul play. We've got foul play.

We went on a family camping trip with another couple who are close friends of ours. One of them is a retired veteran, so we were staying at an RV park on base in our trailers. When we got to the RV park it was dark and our husband set up the trailers plugged in water hoses septic electric. The next morning we realized there was a sign saying no black water poop water dump. Okay. My husband failed to remove the hose at that point and when it was time to pack up four days later, we ran into a problem when we were packing up the hose was full of shit. Rather than squirting it all over the RV

park, he had the genius idea for me to hold the back end of the hose up while he held the other end of the RV twice. Nope, nope. I knew it was a bad idea but did it anyway because we didn't know what to do. As he stepped onto the stairs and pulled the back end of the hose up all of this shit and piss water came rushing out of the end I was holding that through the thing and it went everywhere. Thankfully it only got on my arms but needless to say I cussed my husband out so hard we are lucky the military police didn't come talk to us.

We laugh about it with our friends and I don't think you will ever ask me to go near anything septic related again. Love you girls and the podcast." The way that Elijah would get, that is an incident where I believe that the silent treatment would absolutely be happening for me and he would not hear from me for seven to 10 business days. If it's going to end up in the park anyway, likely based off of that situation, then I'm just going

to go ahead and break the law. I'm signing up to break the law before I start to try to do something right in that situation. We're felons at that moment. Either we're felons because the shit water is going everywhere or we're felons because there will be domestic violence in that incident. And then I'm also going to lie and say that it was an accident. You're like, I didn't mean to. So you could just give me a warning

and go about everybody's day. And I'm leaving this RV park anyway, so it's not like I'm going to be back here to fuck with some shit water. Oh my god. Ew, shit water. Can you imagine? No.

No, I can't. See, they probably want to do an RV. Like the thoughts of somebody want to do an RV. Like the thoughts of somebody shitting on an RV while I'm sleeping. It's not that bad because some RVs and campers have two bathrooms. So like someone could be shitting down the hall. Mine only has one. Yeah, ours just has one.

But a lot of times like we're not all in the camper at the same time. Like we're usually like outside and stuff, so like if someone has to go the bathroom they go inside, or if you're on a campsite they do have other bathrooms that you can go to. Do you have like a routine time of the day that you shit? No, because I'm irregular, so like I sometimes don't shit for seven days, so it's just, I just feel like we really need to advocate for the constipation problems that happens in women because also so same, but there are regular shitters that are like, Elijah shits every morning.

First thing in the morning, they're shitting or last thing at night, they're shitting or they could be doing both. I don't want to be in an RV while you're doing that. I need to be in a home and you need to be away. An RV is essentially a home on wheels. So like, what is the difference between that and someone shitting in the ensuite bathroom in your room? Because I just feel like it's so much more confined and I feel like there's way more room for error for the smell. You know what really chaps my ass is in a public restroom. For example, I was in the airport for three hours yesterday before my flight and I was

at the club lounge thing through my credit card and the bathroom was multi-gender or whatever so it was like man, woman, whatever, but like it wasn't like a stall situation, right? Whoever was in there before me, or maybe it was the person before that person, like blew it up, like smelled so bad. And then I come out of there and there's a line and people probably think that smell was from me.

Like I'm not okay with that. I'm also not okay with that. And while I understand that, you know, sometimes the Lord calls your asshole and like you just have to go, right? However, I don't poop in public places. Like I don't, but I understand that some people have like IBS and stuff. So like I get that. But also can we just normalize not doing that in a bathroom where there's not stalls because of that exact situation? Because if I feel like somebody thinks that I did that, I'm immediately going to come out of pocket and I'm going to be like, I actually didn't shit in

there. I notify everybody that somebody else shit in there. I have thought about coming out of the stall and being like, that smell wasn't me. Oh, 100%. 100% I would do that in public to somebody that I don't know. I'm like actually didn't shit in here, but by all means. Also, can we just just briefly talk about people who can shit so fast? That's me. Takes me three minutes less three minutes or less 30 seconds. What's more normal like fast shitters or slow? I'm concerned about the people who sit on the toilet for a really long time. You're not even supposed to sit on it for longer than 10 minutes. Says who?

Actually just saw an article about that yesterday. Like it's like a thing. No, like it's not good for your pelvic floor to sit on the toilet for a long time. Well, I mean, I'm not sitting in there for like probably longer than 10 minutes But I feel like the average man definitely does yeah But because the average man is they're going in there and they're forcing themselves to shit like they're taking their time 45 fucking minutes because they didn't actually have to shit. And they just sit there and they just like scroll on their phones and then they eventually shit.

Like let's normalize like going to sit on the toilet at the moment you have to poop. But also why is that like all men? Like we're in the DNA. Does that happen where it's like, okay, when I get X amount of age, I'm now going into the bathroom and I'm taking 45 minute fake shits. Maybe they don't wanna deal with reality.

Do they get bored? Like is it life they don't wanna deal with? So there's like, oh, I'm gonna go and scroll on my phone. And then you get into the age long debate of the amount of germs that are on a cell phone. Can you imagine a man's cell phone? That's one reason to never touch one. The man, never touch a man or never touch a cell phone. Can you imagine a man cell phone? That's one reason to never touch one. Never touch a man or never touch a cell phone? Never touch a man's cell phone because he has had

it on that toilet probably three times every single day where he's been scrolling and then wiping his ass. Like that's disgusting. If you ever need to spy on a man's cell phone, put sanitizer on it before you do it. Period. That's disgusting. Okay. This person says, Hey, girlies, it finally happened a moment where something awful happened to me and I thought I need to tell Kail and Lindsay and Kristin, of course, immediately. I just feel so honored. I was at work after being off for a week. I was in my coworker's office catching up on office gossip when my boss walked in, my mail boss. We were chatting and I hear some sort of bubbly sound

coming from my body. I know immediately it's coming from me because I can feel the involuntary queefs in my pants. What? What? What? What? I'm obviously mortified and said, oh, I must be hungry. I know it sounds just like farts. Anyways, I go over to the bathroom once we were done talking to see why I'm randomly queefing at work. It turns out that I was starting my period and it was spurting out of me. Postpartum bodies are so weird and unpredictable. I can confidently say I've never have I ever queefed starting my period. Oh, I definitely have. Specifically after giving birth or after sex.

Like what happens? I don't know if it's the air trapped in and it's just like divine intervention. It's like here's your period now that you've had sex or you gave birth. So here's your period and you're bleeding and so like the air and like just all of the things like pushes out at once. So it's like air is coming out and blood is also coming out. Yeah. But could you imagine being like in your co-worker's office, gossiping and then you're just like queefing around? Well, just queefing around. Well, what's more embarrassing is like if it sounds like farts, if it's loud, because sometimes they don't have sounds at all. But if they have sounds and then they think that you're farting and you're like, no, these are not actually farts, they're like period queefs.

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