Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Room Predicament, A Murdaugh Lifetime Movie & an Extremely Awkward Manzilian

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say, thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.

I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Getting off or getting off? It's like my favorite thing to say. It's like get off or get off. Get off. I'm on one today. It's been, it feels like Monday. I don't want to complain. I know people don't love that, but also it does not feel like a great day today. Well, welcome to Coffee Combos podcast, Kale. Welcome. Good morning, everybody.

At least our nails look OK and your hair looks great. Thanks. I did a little blonde moment. Oh, so you're... Brond. ...bronding yesterday and I'm blonding today. So we're like reversing. Are you going like super blond?

You know what Trent told me this morning? He was like, Lindsay, I think that you never know what you're gonna do when you go to the hair salon. And when you come back, no one ever knows what you're gonna look like. Ever. And I just don't know. Like I get there and we start talking and I'm like,

hmm, I like this inspo pic, I like that inspo pic. Has anyone ever gone to have their hair done and given an inspo Pic and then you turn around and you don't look like that inspo pic at all I just saw a tiktok that had literally four million views and it was this poor girl if I can find it again I'll send it to you and post it she Sent the inspo pic she does the whole like TikTok in the in the salon and then she goes in the bathroom and it's botched. Like it's so fucked. It was so fucked and she's crying in the mirror and I'm like, that is one time that I

would fully understand someone crying on TikTok. Like I fully understand. Okay, but can we just talk briefly for a second about why we thought it was a good idea to take our highlights all the way to our root at one point? Because I haven't done that in years. I always do like a shit, what do they call it, like a shadow root? Like, lipped in hair.

Yeah, so you have the shadow root too. You like the grow out look good. I won't be back for like, till January, just because I just don't, I can't fit in my schedule. It's a lot. And so I was like, I need like till January, just because I just don't, I can't fit in my schedule, it's a lot. And so I was like, I need like low maintenance, like a low maintenance situation. Kristen said it's called a shadow root or a drop root.

Oh, okay. So we love a good drop root moment. Does anyone else always go to the hair salon with your hair dirty as hell? Because that's me. I didn't yesterday simply because I had, I recorded an episode with Elijah and so I had my hair done on Sunday. And so I just didn't wash it.

But typically I just won't wash my hair like, sorry Taylor, like whatever you get is what you get. I'm like, I hope that there's not like, she lies or dandruffed or anything. Tell me though, yesterday, so she was listening to our podcast and she did say, leaving your hair wet throughout the day is the same as going to bed with wet hair. It's just not like it's just like not exacerbated by like sleeping on wet hair. So it

does the same thing. So y'all need to like blow dry your roots or something. It's something but I can't I don't have hair like that I can't just blow dry the root. I have to go like the entire convection I woke up on Sunday morning and I'd wash my hair on Saturday night went to bed with my hair wet woke up it was all over the place we know what my hair looks like whenever I wake up. And Trent was like, what are you going to do something with your hair? And I'm like, yes, specifically, I'm going to blow dry it. And he is like, but it's already dry.

And I'm like, no, you don't understand. Like I have to put heat to this thing or else I'm going to look like a chia pet when we leave this house. So never go to bed with your hair wet. Mine gets like kinky curls like underneath there. Like in my nape. Is that what it's called? Your nape?

Yeah, it looks so bad. Can we briefly talk about these photos that we touched on last week about Olin Mills? Those are like the Kmart ones, like the JC Penney. We also went to Kmart sometimes. Yeah. But look at this and look at how curly my hair was. Did people think you were twins?

Yes, all the time. Also, when you posted them, I think it was to your story yesterday. Kyle as a child looks like Jackson. Like Jackson looks like Kyle as a child looks like Jackson. Like Jackson looks like Kyle as a child. I actually text Kyle's wife, Ashley, and it's so weird that you say that because I texted her this morning at 8.56 and said if one more person messages me

and says that Jackson reminds them of Kyle, I'm gonna throw my whole phone away. No, literally, I'm about to go look again just because I know. And look at this one. Yeah, specifically that one. That's the one, like obviously Jackson has a little bit different hair, but that's baby Jackson. Literally, isn't it?

But I think he's like a combo of me and Kyle. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then is that Chase? Yeah. I think it was like our one of our first family photos together with like the blended family. Oh my gosh.

And that funny is as this was from April 9th of 1997. So I was five. How old were you? Seven? I think seven. Yeah, but look at my freaking hair and my bangs. And I feel like I look the same. You look exactly the same, right?

I saw Kyle and his wife, is her name Ashley or Ashley? Yeah. They came up on my for you page on TikTok the other night and they were like harassing Nanny about something about like what is EYES spell? And she's like, shit, I don't know. I got to go back to grammar school. I love their TikToks harassing Nanny.

Can I tell you when we first got on this recording, I was out of breath because I forgot to take my trash cans out and I started hearing the beeper outside of the man coming by so I chased him down. I'm like this trash cannot stay in here one more day because it smells like ranked chicken. I cannot tell you how many times when at my old house they we wouldn't put our trap like it just was you would think it's such a simple task, but I'm like, I could never remember to do it. Now we have, like, because we have like a whole fucking compound, we have like a dumpster,

and then they come and pick up like the dumpster. So we- Wait, what? Yeah, like I don't, I wouldn't pay for like trash can service anymore. So backup, you have like a whole, like, what you would see at like a trash services place or like a McDonald's. Like you know behind the business they have those like cute, like I have that.

How much trash do you have? Well you have to think that I have all my kids, like we're a big family and then the tenants that are in Elijah's house are, that's a family of four or five. So we just all do it and then they pick that up. So where does this thing sit? Not near my house. I don't want it. But is it an eyesore? Like when you pull up to? No. I don't want to call it the land. The loury land. The swamp. No, I'm just kidding. No, it's like, it kind of looks like it's like not on our property. Yeah. So that's like fine. Also, I'm growing shrubs around it. So like, it's fine.

Wait, so you're growing shrubs around this so it hides it? Yeah. Because it's ugly. I love that for you. I'm gonna tell you something that I did yesterday. And I'm still shook like I Like I'm well about it. So I'm on this call yesterday and I'm going in for an appointment. So I go to sign in, sign my name in, put my phone number, go and sit down on the couch. There's other ladies that are there. So the entire like waiting room is full. Person comes out to get me, but I don't realize it's me

because I was on a phone call whenever I was doing this, signing in and I signed in Lindsey Campbell, but I didn't realize that I did it. On purpose? Oh, whoa. No, like just, I don't know, like why I did it. So I signed in Lindsey Campbell and the person comes out and she's like, Campbell,

well, I didn't realize that I did it because my last name is Chris Lee. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, well, Campbell's a common last name. Like it's probably some lady in here. I show you not. I sit there 10 minutes and these people keep calling Campbell and I thought that I've missed my appointment or that I'm evidently there and I don't have an appointment. So I go back up to the desk and I'm like, Hey, my appointment was at 115. I don't know if I'm like here at the right time or if something's going on, if they're just like running behind.

And she was like, is your name Lindsay? And I said, yeah, she said, is your last name Chrisley or is it Campbell? And I said, Chrisley. And she was like, Oh, you signed in Campbell and they've been calling you for 10 minutes. And it's so weird because right after I divorced and moved to this house, the house that I live in now, the neighborhoods only, um, like one road over from our marital home. Oh yeah.

So it's like super close. I could throw like a football over there. I mean, my arm's not that good, but somebody that has a good arm. Jackson could throw a football over there. Yes. Um, I would always use to accidentally turn on my old road. Be just out of habit like second nature. Isn't that so weird?

That is really weird. That's that is really like, I've never done that. Like, but I've I pass my old house all the time. But I don't accidentally ever go there. But I'm like, I don't live here happens. You're like, this isn't my home. And does someone live there though? Yeah, somebody lives there. It was a little family from actually Nashville, Tennessee bought our house. And super cute little family was their first home that they've ever bought. And sometimes I'll like drive by just because I want to see if they're like maintaining my hydrangeas

that I couldn't take. And I wonder how many people when they sell a house, I used to be big like on Mother's Day, I like to get flowers that like I could plant and see all year round. And so I had multiple Mother's Day sets of flowers in my yard there, and that was one of the hardest things for me to leave.

I wonder if you could have taken some to propagate and then replant. Oh, Will told me he wasn't digging them up for me. But he was mad in that era. Yeah, that was Willard's angry era, for sure. Yeah. I always try past my old house too. But along the back fence, like where I planted trees so that it was like a privacy, because

we had a four foot fence, but not a six foot fence. So I planted trees and now that I've left, they're finally fully grown and you can't see back there. So I have no idea, like if they're maintaining, I mean, I would imagine. But don't you like ever drive by and you're like, wow, I put a lot of work into those, actually will did like I didn't,

but you know what I mean? And it's like, wow, they're fully like blooming and everything looks great. And the size of everything isn't brand new anymore. And that's exactly how it was supposed to look but it didn't look like that whenever we lived there and I wish I took it all. Yeah and also when I sold my Middletown house, the people who bought the house from me immediately

renovated everything. Like immediately ripped up all the floor. Oh they did? Yeah. So I was like, damn, like, I mean I'm glad they got to do it because I didn't get to do it. It was just too big of a house and the expense probably would have been the cost of another house.

So I never did the flooring and stuff, but I would be curious to see what it looks like now. Does anybody feel like it costs way less to build from scratch than it does to renovate something? Because I feel like it costs so much to renovate. Well, I look back, and when I bought that house, I bought that middle-town house for like an extraordinary like entirely too much money. It was like $860 or something like that. It was just like crazy. And then I thought to myself after living there for a year, I was like, I could have bought,

I could have built, built. I could have built. I could have built a house exactly what I wanted for cheaper. I know why I'm so dedicated to doing new construction. Well, there's multiple reasons why I'm so dedicated to that. It's like I hate energy of other people like in a home. I'm very weird about it. But I just feel like it's so much easier and you get it the way you want it and you don't have to worry about all of these other projects after the fact that you've moved in. But there are some people that like love taking on these projects. Not I. That's also not I. That's also not I. All right, ladies. I have a brand that I feel like I'm going to turn you guys on to that you are going

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It's freezing. I love it. Um, I have a nice little candle lit. So I feel like I'm in fall vibes currently. I got all of my closet finished and completed. And it feels so good, but I have a desk in there. I don't know if I've ever shown you my, um, I've seen like you've sent pictures.

So I am going to work on over the holidays. We'll really like towards the end of this month through the holidays to try to get all of that set up. So whenever I start recording in the new year that I have like everything set up for like that space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because it feels weird. Right now I record in my kitchen and my living room

and I don't know why I feel like this, but when you work from home, it feels like there's no separation from like your personal life to your home, like your personal home life from your work life. So I think it'll be nice for me to just be able to close that door. But my next project is working on Jackson's bedroom because he is phasing out finally

of stuffed animals. And one of my girlfriends told me that there is some website that you can go on and make a bean bag out of all of your kids stuffed animals like you mail in. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. So it's not like you're really getting rid of them and it's maybe like an easier transition for some kids who don't want to like part with their stuff.

So they know that they're like in there. So definitely do that. I've seen, um, I follow this one woman on Tik Tok. She does stuffed animals out of like, if someone has like a baby item, like a baby onesie or something, she'll make, or like even multiple items, she'll make like a stuffed animal out of the clothing. And then I've done, for my kids,

I've done like shirts and jerseys that don't fit them, or they have like logos for where we've been. I've done like the blanket thing. I've never heard of the beanbag one, but you know, people are gonna go crazy over that. So you should definitely, you should definitely try it out and then recommend it for anyone that if you like it.

I'm gonna try it out and see how much I like it and then recommend it if it's good. Back to little blanket things though. I also need to do that because I got the idea from you, the shirts and jerseys, you know, just like the shirts that you get from traveling and then they get too small or whatever, sports, just like the random stuff that they have. And I finally feel like I have enough to be able to do all of the squares because don't you have to have like 12 or something like

that? Yeah, I mean, it depends on how big you want the blanket. I wanted to make sure like it was going gonna be able to like grow with him with Lincoln specifically. I did one for Isaac and Lincoln. I don't think I did one for Lux yet, but I already have enough shirts to do another one. And I'm like, I can't just do this all the time. So I'm trying to figure out what else I can do with the shirts.

And like I was going through my closet and I was like, do I just get rid of them? But then like- I don't know. I feel like you can do it all the time because I have a million blankets I'm like a blanket and bag lady. Yeah, we love them. I Absolutely love them. I have an entire closet of blankets and they are blankets that like my biological mom

her mom is Like a homemaker I guess is what you would call it and she does like quilting and sewing and all that stuff So she made a quilt for Will and I whenever we got married and then she made one with all of like his college shirts. I have one term whenever I was growing up like a little kid, all different ones. But I think that's such a good little keepsake because Will took his that his grandmother made him to college. Oh, that's cute. That's like really cute. And maybe I could. I mean, I love blankets.

If anyone gifted me a blanket, like I'm happy. But like something that is sentimental like that. I love little sentimental gifts. Also, people do those types of blankets with people's like, I don't know. I'm just specifically thinking of like a granddad. If you have somebody that's like passed away, they'll take some of their like dress shirts or handkerchiefs or whatever and make those blankets like that for just like a keepsake.

Oh, that makes sense. Because what do you do? Like when someone passes away, I always wonder like, what do you do with their clothes? Because like you can, you can reuse like their home stuff, right? Like the stuff that's in their home. But like, I don't know where my grandfather's clothes went. Like I would have loved to have a blanket for like of my grandfather's like shirts like that would have been you know what I mean? So cool. Yeah. So we have like rooms and stuff. I am like in such a predicament right now. So when I built the house, we have we have six bedrooms, we have five upstairs and then mine downstairs, right? For all the children. So there's one for each child, right? And that's cool. That's great and good. However, we're getting an au pair.

So the au pair needs her own room, right? So right now, Rio's crib is in my bedroom, which is fine, because where my bedroom is on my house, it's like, literally its own like, wing, for lack of better words. So like, you can't hear and I don't even know if like, certain mom, I'd have to look into monitors, because I haven't used to monitoring forever. Because we just fucking co-sleep. Do I have to ask you about that in a second, but continue? Should I get bunk beds? Should I move rooms around? Should I turn my office into the room for an au pair so my kids don't have to give up one of their rooms? Like I'm just not sure like what that's like and what especially for Lux and Creed, because they are, it's hard because Isaac and Lincoln are only there 50% of the time, but I never want them to come to my house and feel like

because they're only there 50% of the time, they have to share a room. I know. That's not fair to them because they didn't choose this. And that's not fair to Lux and Creed because I know that they share bunk beds and share a room with their other dads, which is cool. They said that they're willing to do that. However, they fight so much at my house that I wanna keep them having some space.

So I'm like, I don't know what to do. So on another episode way back when, I have no idea when it was, but at some point we talked about the boys, Lux and Creed sleeping in bunk beds at their dads. So I do feel like you said that there was a transition and correct me if I'm wrong, you said there was a little bit of a transition whenever they came back because their sleeping arrangements looked different there.

So maybe you should try the bunk bed situation at your house and then it's consistent both places. Right. And then give the au pair one of the rooms. One of the rooms, yeah. OK. And I do think it's better. They'll learn to share. Like that will force them to learn to share. And you know what my parents used to tell us?

When we were growing up, they would be like, well, you guys can either figure it out or one of you will beat the shit out of the other one and figure it out. You're like, one of you is going to beat the other one down so bad that you're just going to, you're going to like it and you're, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Kind of. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. Okay. That's exactly what happens. But then that's so frustrating too, because I feel like you just got all of your stuff set the way that you want it. And now you have to do this whole transition and buy new beds. Well, that's, I mean, thankfully I haven't gotten, none of them have gotten new, I think the only one that has gotten a new bed recently is Creed when he transitioned to a big boy bed. So, and he

doesn't sleep in there. So he sleeps in my bed, Rio sleeps in my bed and Lux moves his nugget couch into my room and sleeps in the nugget couch in my room. And so there's three kids in my room right now. And if I go one more night without sleep, I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna snap in half. I'm gonna just... All of that co-sleeping and one bedroom, you know I'm a big advocate for co-sleeping.

Did it for forever. Did it far too long. Probably might get attacked about it, don't really care. I did what worked for us. But I do think that rooms now that I'm not doing it anymore, I do see the importance of having the separation of your bedroom and their bedroom and it's your space and their space. But I could not imagine sleeping with three kids. Will and I could not do that when we were married with Jackson. One of us would go to like the guest room. Well, sometimes sometimes I'm, I'm like, should I just go out there? But like, also anytime

I've co slept, they've been like, and I could get bashed for this. But like, they're like my security blanket. So just as much as like Creed looked at me last night and was like, I want to sleep in your bed. And he said the only I asked him, I said, do you want bunk beds? I said, would you sleep in your bed? If it was your bunk, if it was a bunk bed? And he said, yes. I said, will you sleep in your bed tonight? And he said, no, because it's not a bunk bed. So I'm just like, as much as I would love to have them out of my room, I also it's, it is like a security blanket for me too. Actually, when I started the transition from moving Jackson out of my bedroom

and fully sleeping in his bed every night, we had a transition from he sleeps in his bed on school days and then he could sleep with me on weekends and then I finally transitioned to like every day. But my therapist, she asked me the question. She said, is he sleeping in your bed more for you or more for him? I just feel like we just need each other.

It's not, I don't know. Like what- We just want all the snuggles. Yeah, well, because they're only little for so long. And like the more that I hear that there's only 18 summers, I'm like, Jesus, like Isaac's almost 14 like Bye I've already been so emotional over the last 24 hours. Don't get me started on the only 18 summers because I I

Cannot and I only get half of those 18 summers if you really think about it you're in co-parenting situation Which is so sad. So fucking sad and not something that we would have ever chose like we wouldn't have chosen. I was about to say we didn't sign up, but we absolutely did sign up. We did, but we did. But we did. Yeah. You know, but my most favorite thing ever is to see a little kid wake up with crazy hair and their breath probably stinks, but like I love it.

Don't you love it though? Yeah, Creed wakes up and he's like, you know, Creed's hair is like, his hair is different, but he'll wake up and he is just a mess. And I'm just like, I love you so much. Like your life, like I just want to eat him up. Yeah. But he's Christian. Yeah, no, he's Christian. Our next partner has truly made a positive impact on the most important people in

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because I'm an avid Lifetime watcher. If I'm gonna watch anything, that's going to be lifetime. There was a two part murder movie that they did. So it's not like on lifetime. So I was able to watch it on Hulu and it was two parts. I've gotten through the first part completely. the second part I'm like halfway through and it's very it's lengthy like it's it's a long one. I think the second the first and second part might be two hours long apiece. So it's it's a lot. One thing Trent told me that he knows that I absolutely love lifetime and that's great for me, but this is probably the last lifetime thing that he'll ever watch. and that's great for me, but this is probably the last lifetime thing that he'll ever watch. And I was kind of upset because I'm like, well, this is not the last lifetime thing that I'm

gonna watch. So why is Kristen saying that she's vomiting? Is it something we said? Oh, yeah, she said, she said in response to nasty morning breath, Like, I'm like, is it something we said or is she actually feeling sick? And it's definitely something we said. Got it. Um, I don't know. Morning breath on like your kids. It's kind of like when I talked about your kids, shit, not stinking. When did you talk about that?

Where did I talk about that? I feel like I talked about that. Did you? Okay. Well, I talked about it somewhere about feeling like when you change your own kids, like you don't really feel like they stink. But if you change someone else's kid, it smells so foul.

My kids' diaper is definitely stink. But also, it's just one of those things that you just don't mind doing it. You just do it. But I don't want to change someone else's kid's diaper. Yeah, I don't want to change rolling turds kids diaper. Yeah, like I don't want to change like rolling turds off of your kid. Like that's not a thing. But I don't feel like you think that your kids breath stinks like bad in the morning.

It's just kind of like you. Yeah, agreed until a certain age. Yeah. And then once they hit like three, like four, like three, four, you're like, okay, no, I can't do this anymore. Like you go brush your teeth. Yeah. OK, so back to the documentary or the Lifetime movie.

Don't want to spend a whole lot of time on this, but very upset that Trent's not going to watch any more Lifetime movies with me. He said it was very just dramatized and. It was a good. He was like all the coloring and everything in Lifetime movies is always like the same. And without the logo in the bottom,

you just know it's lifetime. Does anybody else feel like that? Oh, a hundred percent. Like, you know, lifetime. And then you know, that's what's like PBS. Like those two brands, they, that you just know. I feel like the movie was really good. far based off of what I watched and it gave me insight to questions that I had all along the way.

I feel like Alec definitely killed Luria. Yeah. But then Trent brought up a good point. He was like, do you really think that he did though? Because how would he know for sure if he pushed her down the stairs or whatever and she bled out? How would he know for sure that that was going to happen? And like there would be risk involved if she didn't die.

She would have recollection of what happened. Would she do fall down the stairs? Yeah. And bled out. But Alex said that she tripped over a dog, but in this lifetime movie, it shows like a reenactment of what was happening. And he talks to her and he tells law enforcement that she tripped over the dog

and you see Paul standing at the door. And he's looking at his dad like that's a lie there was no dog and law enforcement questioned him and was like well where's the dog now and he's like well I don't know and I just feel like after watching this the web of lies that took place and then the statement that he made in court about the web of lies. And the judge was like, for someone who's grieving

and claiming his innocence, for you to say a statement such as, oh, the webs we weave or something along those lines, I think really rubbed everybody the wrong way. Because if I'm not guilty, and I did not kill these people that I'm being accused of killing I'm not gonna make those types of like statements

And I don't think he shed one tear either No There's definitely some some mental health stuff going on there for sure But I just think and families like the Myrtles, I think a lot of times there are lots of webs of lies. And when you have that much power, I think it was the boating accident that like made the shift for everything. And once Alec realized that he wasn't going to be able to get his son out of that. And then all of the attention on the family at that point, it was really hard to cover

his tracks from that point. I want to know how much other shit he was afraid was gonna come up because of that boating accident. Like all of the things that they've swept under the rug. Also, I would like to know if Maggie or Paul or Buster knew the plan, if he did premeditate Gloria's murder or he like had an idea about doing it, do the rest of the family know? I think that all of the killings that took place,

and I'm just gonna call them killings, electric killings. The place. And I'm just gonna call them killings, a life of killings. The Stephen died too, right? Yeah, I think that all of them were, because the people that died knew too much and it was an easy way in his mind to get rid of having that problem. I think Maggie was possibly killed

as an innocent bystander to Paul. Okay. I think that- So do you think that he would not have killed her if she was not down at the kennels? I think it was premeditated based off of what I watched on this Lifetime movie. Paul and Maggie were at the beach house and he asked them to come back because his dad was sick

and he needed to go and visit him in the hospital and he wanted Paul and Maggie to go with him. That night they had dinner, Paul and Maggie go to the kennels and two weapons were used to kill them. I think he premeditated that whole thing. But so you're saying he would have killed Maggie regardless. Like it wasn't just because she happened to be down there. Because she had left to go to the beach house because she went to his office and found the drugs in his desk.

So she questioned him, yeah. I did not know that, I missed that whole part then. So at the point that she started questioning him, she packed a suitcase, goes to the beach house with Paul, he calls her to come back home and uses his dad as an excuse. Okay, okay. Comes back home, they end up dead.

So everything was coming ahead between the boating accident and then his drug use, like all of it was coming out. And all of the financial stuff at the law firm and the misappropriation of funds. I just want to know because I don't have knowledge on how much drugs and stuff cost. Based off of the monetary figures that law enforcement presented him with and the money that was stolen and not accounted for, we're talking like millions of dollars. How do you spend that much money? Where did it go? You then have to start selling off property

to pay attorney's fees just to be able to live. How did that much money go missing? Do we think it was all to drugs? Like, could it have been things for the beach house? Could it have been vehicles, dogs? Like, because honestly, from what I saw, I mean, I don't know though, because from what I saw, like the house itself was nice, but like they didn't even have a paved driveway.

Those kennels were kind of like where like the acreage was, like where the kennels were and the, um, where the old, like, uh, what does it call like a plane hanger where they like, like the plane. Yeah. That wasn't like, it really it call like a plane hanger where they like, yeah, that wasn't like, it really wasn't all that for like what they what you would think that the Murdoch had, you would think that that would have been like mint condition, like very like, but it was just there. I know.

And it just seemed very odd to me that there was that kind of money, but based off of what we do know, everything seemed very, like I wouldn't look at their home and be like, wow, or like his vehicle and be like, wow. Right. Like nothing was like, mm-mm. So anyway, you guys just need to, if you're interested in this at all, I think it will give you, with it being a movie, I think it'll give you like a better timeline and how things played out.

It gave me a better visual. Yeah. Okay. So I'll check it out. I do have Hulu, so I'll check that out. Did you see the thing about the, it's not even funny. I don't even know why I'm laughing. It's only funny because I've done this and someone sent it to me to my DMs and was like, does this ring a bell?

Bus driver gets busted with a white claw. Oh, I have that. Yeah. I wrote that down to talk to you about that today because you told the story about how you got in the car and realized that you had like a trullier white claw. Yeah. And I was fucking crying because the bus driver, she actually didn't get charged or anything because she said she didn't even know that they were alcoholic beverages. Good. Which like typically the whole like I didn't know situation like doesn't help you with law enforcement. Like it's not my fault. You didn't know the fucking laws,

right? But I thought it was interesting's not my fault you didn't know the fucking laws, right? But I thought it was interesting because I think she genuinely didn't know. No, I think she really didn't know. Didn't it say that she was like 60 years old or something? What? I didn't see how old she was. Yeah, so it's a People article and it says,

bus driver suffering after being fired for drinking white cloth she didn't know was alcoholic. She was 60 years old and won't face charges It's a people article and it says bus driver suffering after being fired for drinking white claw. She didn't know was alcoholic. She was 60 years old and won't face charges for drinking while driving students. A New York bus driver who was fired after she was caught driving students home while drinking an alcoholic seltzer to her alleged surprise will not face charges. Please say it says that she said it was a mistake and it happened after she accidentally grabbed a white claw instead of a regular flavored seltzer from the refrigerator that she shares with her roommate before she's headed to work. So obviously to me, if you're

in a shared refrigerator situation and you have seltzers, I don't know what seltzers are shaped in the same way of white claws, but I just know. White claws are the same as a Lani. Yeah, white claws are the same as a Lani, which is how I got it mixed up. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, if she's.

And mines it side by side in the fridge. Well, that's what I'm like, if I had white claw in my fridge this morning, I don't even drink. I probably, I was so fucking tired, Rio had me up until five a.m. And I was just like, literally if that was me, I could have done it and I don't even drink.

So I definitely could understand. Just being exhausted and just grabbing something and going because that's exactly what happened to me. If she's a bus driver, she's gotta be on those routes early, like early, early. So she was probably struggling and then oops. Popped her a white claw. No.

When it happened to me, I always popped my drink like before I pulled back out of the garage. It's just what I do every single day. And I put mine in the brewmate. And so when I put that up to my lips and taste it, I was like, oh God, like, but because it was in the brumate, you couldn't tell. I couldn't tell that it was a white claw. Well, so I could see how this could happen.

But can you get like, I'm not super familiar with like the amount of alcohol or anything. Can you get tipsy off of one or no? I mean, depends on how much you drink. I'm not getting tipsy off of one white claw. I think it's got like 5% alcohol in it. But it says that she's currently undergoing chemotherapy treatments and told the news outlet that she has difficulty tasting and was not

able to detect any alcohol in the beverage. When the white claw was observed in her cup holder as she transported kids from the high school. She was immediately removed from her route. She said, for people like me that don't drink, how are they going to know this is alcohol? She had been a bus driver for 15 years and she was also worried about becoming homeless. That just is so sad. Oh, and especially if she's going through chemo and I don't know anything about chemo, but if she's saying she lost sense of taste and smell, like I believe that.

It says in a quote, the children on her bus said that she is the kindest woman and she's like a grandma to them. She's undergoing chemotherapy and made an honest mistake that cost her her job. This woman says that my children were on the bus that day. They knew that the circumstances had to be a mistake. Period. There is a fundraiser that's going on that's raised over $22,000.

Stop all crying right now. I literally will cry right now because that poor woman, she didn't know. She didn't know. I just feel so bad for her. Oh, bless her. I hope she's okay. Listen, Jackson rides the bus to Will's like home from school.

Okay. If his bus driver was caught with a white claw, I probably would feel a type of way and be skeptical of that situation, but I also feel like you have to take every situation for the individual situation, right? This isn't a situation like the elementary school teacher who was like drunk in class, right?

No. Like driving to school drunk, choosing to drink, having liquor in her room, like very different circumstances. I also feel like obviously you're going to be upset because one mistake, a true mistake can lead to accidents and things like that. But I think that there's a difference between intentionally doing something and unintentionally doing it. So I think definitely consider the factors. This podcast is sponsored by Hannah Anderson and I am here to tell you if you are looking for premium sustainable clothing brand for your kids.

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But which she produced murder is the question. Season 2 of Bad Bad Thing, the Blackstone Sisters available October 4th, wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, school. Oh, what about school? Okay. So I came across this article. I'm already over school. While we're on the topic of school.

And I was really upset about this because obviously they all know I have biracial and multi-ethnic children. And so this one really hit home for me. A father is filing a $1 million lawsuit against a Michigan school because the teacher, not another student, keep that in mind, the teacher cut her hair. Wait, what? So it is a biracial girl, a little girl, and she has like super curly hair or

something, right? And or maybe it's textured. I'm not really sure. Let me go back to the article. And it says that a father of a seven year old Michigan girl whose hair was cut by a teacher without her parents' permission has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the school district, a librarian and a teacher's assistant. So basically what happened was the dad who was black and white said that in March, his daughter came home from school, the elementary school, and one hair one side of her hair was cut off. And that was listen, that was a student. Okay, so the student cut half of her hair. She continues to go to school because

what do you do in that situation if I don't have a daughter, but if I did, I feel like hair is something that is so sensitive that like, even for Lux as a boy that has hair, like, I probably wouldn't even it out because I would want it to grow out a little bit before I evened it out, you know what I mean? So, two days after this incident on the bus where the student cuts her hair, she goes to school, and the teacher cuts the other side of her hair. So it's like one thing that you're like, okay, the student did it, you can't really do anything about it. And I'm sure that happens more often than we know. But as a teacher, why the fuck? And then also for you to do it. And I don't, I don't know, I don't think

I don't necessarily think that the race thing should have been brought into it, but also it does make me question this teacher's morals and ethics and like what she was trying to do. Well, it says that in this article, it's from Detroit Free Press. It says that in the lawsuit, it alleges that biracial girls constitutional rights were violated racial discrimination,

ethnic intimidation, and intentional of inflection of emotional distress and assault and battery. Like those are very serious charges. Let's just say that the child goes to school and is very upset and maybe classmates are saying something to her about her hair from the incident that happened before. At that point, the teacher should have pulled the child to the guidance counselor and had them call home to discuss what was going on in the classroom with potential other students

saying this stuff and let the parents remedy that situation. Agreed. Agreed. I don't think the teacher should have ever crossed any lines. And we know I'm not one to be an advocate for lawsuits. No. And- But in this situation? But it also says that two other employees

were aware of the incident but didn't report it. And that's like- Aren't they mandated reporters though? Why, well, for the child, yes, but they're not mandated to report a teacher probably. Oh, I don't know though, right? Like, are they required to tell on a teacher who does something that they shouldn't be doing? I don't know. I mean, I feel like if it's misconduct of any kind, towards a child or a student, yeah, I would think so. Yeah. That that should be a mandated reporting.

That to me is just very alarming. As a parent, if my child came home like this, I would raise absolute health. I've had calls from the school, actually, Lux's teachers over the years, have all my kids' teachers and all of the administration have been really good about always calling me for incidents. I think there's only been like one

that they didn't call me for that I was like, the hell's going on, but I got a call not that long ago. It was probably like a week or two ago when Lux's hairstyle had changed and another child was touching his hair and stuff like that. And the teacher immediately called me to let me know and talked to me, how do you want us to handle this? I really appreciated it.

And I thought, if Lux is not upset, then let's not make him upset. I'll talk to him about it when he gets home. But if he's upset, we need to remedy this situation now. And I appreciate you calling me kind of thing. But we handled it and it was fine. It also wasn't like a racial thing, I don't believe because the other person that was touching Lex's hair was also black. So I think it was just kids being kids. This situation is just a whole other can of worms. And I honestly hope that they get more

than a million dollars because that's not fair to that poor baby. I just wonder what would have possessed a child on the school bus? I mean, kids do the darndest things, right? But what would be the best? The only thing I can think is I know, depending, these are really young kids. And I don't remember Jackson bringing any like scissors or anything home like that until this year and he's in fourth grade. And that's because he switches classes. So his whole pencil pouch with like everything

that he needs, like his scissors crayons, comes back and forth in the backpack. But at that age of that child, why would those children have had scissors on the bus? That's scary because you don't, I mean, they cut the hair but like they could have done a lot more damage, you know? Like that's terrifying. Cause I don't remember my kids coming back and forth because

You sense in the beginning of the year you send scissors to school with your kids But we also have them at home. So like there's no reason to bring them back and forth. Yeah, I don't know very interesting Yeah, I don't I don't know what that was about. Maybe maybe the parents didn't know and I always hate when I read about I don't know, like businesses and stuff where they immediately jump to say, we are doing an internal investigation of our own. There's gonna be like this third party investigation. And this article, it says the school board

said the independent investigation found no racial bias and included interviews with district personnel, students and families and a review of videos and photos, including posts on social media. District administrators also perform an internal review of the incident and issued a statement saying they're confident that the facts will prevail,

giving our districts appropriate and aggressive response to the incident and findings of the third party investigation that we conducted. So I've been in two situations where I feel as though that internal investigation, you're gonna protect your own. So I've been in two situations within the last, I would say year and a half, just like I'm actually in the middle of one right now

with hospital stuff. And, you know, they found the leak for Rio, which I've already talked about on another podcast, but the other one that I'm going through now and the one that I previously went through, I'm like, you are going to protect your own. Just like HR, I mean, I can't speak for all companies, but for the situation that I had previously been in, you are going to make sure that you find nothing. You are going to make sure that certain things are not found. Like, that's what you're, you're hired by them.

You're not hired by me. Well, I was in a situation in 2017 and had my own independent counsel and was going through something that I'm not gonna talk about, but the company hired a third party investigator. Why couldn't it be us that hired him? the company hired a third party investigator. Why couldn't it be us that hired him? Why wasn't it like a neutral hiring, right?

Where my attorney was involved, their attorney was involved, and then we're both collectively, you know, like if you're going through a mediation in a divorce situation, you both agree on a mediator. Why was it that this company hired this third party investigation to say, oh, well, we didn't find any findings?

That's exactly what happened to me. And I think that our situation, not our situations were not similar, but I think who we're referencing right now is similar. And same thing happened to me. Why did I not have a hand in who was being, who we were hiring to investigate this? And the crazy thing is, is that immediately when I had to sit down with this third party

investigator, I knew that there was going to be no findings. And it's like, no, you didn't find anything because you didn't want to find anything because this is a cover your ass moved. A hundred percent. 110 percent. Absolutely. I hate that. We had a listener write in. Actually we had a lot write in. And this person said, I had a pap smear that came back with an abnormal result and they are sending it in for HPV testing.

I've only been with one person in the last seven years and I highly doubt he's cheating on me. Didn't Kayle mention this happened to her because she had sex the day prior. Can someone help me feel better please? Yes, that happened to me. I did have sex the day before they sent it to the lab. It came, I think I ended up having to get like a second one or something like that or I did a recheck in six months and it was completely normal. That being said, I'm not a doctor and this is just like a fucking, what is it called, disclaimer.

I'm not giving medical advice, but I'm, I don't know that someone necessarily has to be cheating on you to get HPV. I've always heard that it can appear years after exposure. Correct. And that's what I've heard. I mean, I'm saying correct as I also say that I'm not a doctor, but I don't think it has to be a cheating scenario. I think that you can just develop HPV from many things. But like what?

Can you get HPV without someone cheating? People can be infected with HPV without having sexual intercourse. The likelihood of exposure increases with the number of partners a person has, and HPV will often spread early in a relationship as the person is newly exposed to the virus. So this could have happened the first time her and her partner of seven years ever had sex,

and she just didn't know until now. Yeah, I don't think that it's necessarily- Cheating. An indication of cheating. Although. I don't think that it's necessarily... Cheating. ...an indication of cheating. Mm-hmm. Although, if I was in that situation, I would immediately... Oh, there.

...assume that off the bat. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That would probably be my first go-to. But when this happened to you, wait, were you, like, scheduled for a pap and then you had sex, like, the day before this pap and then you got an abnormal pap? Yeah. So, like, I was scheduled for a pap, completely forgot about it you had sex like the day before this pap and then you got an abnormal pap? Yeah. So like I was scheduled for a pap, completely forgot about it, had sex the day before, checked

my calendar, realized, oh my fucking God, I had a pap, still went, got the pap, it came back abnormal. And then I realized, oh fuck, I had sex. I did tell my doctor that. And so he was like, it's probably that I panicked. I freaked the fuck out. I was so upset because obviously you're like, what do you do? And I can't, I just, the part, I can't,

I know I was retested in six months and everything was fine, but I can't remember if they retested me right away because of how upset I was. I'm sure. I can only imagine just knowing you that you were freaking the hell out. Oh my God, I couldn't. I was I was just like, I have cancer. Like I was just so beside myself. And I remember like we were filming for Teen Mom and I got the phone call about it being abnormal. And I was like, I can't film right now.

And then I told I actually do not like this producer at all. She's like, what's going on? And I was like really apprehended. I didn't I was really hesitant to tell her. And then she was just like, basically told me like, it could be fine. Like you're like, she basically said that I was overreacting without saying I was overreacting, which was entirely the case. So Wait, can you verse me on this? Because evidently, I'm not aware. Are you not supposed to have sex the day before your pap? Correct. No one's ever told me this.

Wait, really? No. Let me Google. Am I making this up? That's kind of like me when I first started having sex and thought that my vagina would just like go back to no sex vagina for a couple of days. It says, although there's generally,

there generally, I can't speak, although there generally isn't much preparation for a pap smear, it's best to avoid sex 24 to 48 hours before your appointment. Doing so gives your doctor the best opportunity to get accurate samples of cells and reduce the risk of an abnormal pap because of inflammation or discharge.

AKA if he doesn't pull out, like my partner didn't, he probably got some sperming sperms. Yeah, okay. Wait, so then what they would be testing would be the sperm and not- Like they probably got more sperm than they did of my own cells. You know what I mean?

Kristin said that she thinks that it's two days prior, maybe four. Yeah, I just read that. It said 24 to 48 hours is what it says on Google. And obviously we don't know how reliable that is, but it says 24 to 48 hours. Wow. Kil, have you been wearing your kinetic glasses as Luxus? My kinetic glasses, yes. You guys know I love my pair eyewear.

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Okay, so this next person says, what would you do my 12 year old daughter's best friend showed up at our house yesterday with a black eye. I asked what happened and she said she woke up with it and commented how she always wakes up with random bruises. I let it go at the moment after I dropped her off later asked my daughter what really happened. My daughter is kind of oblivious to things and totally brought bought the waking up with it story. I asked my daughter if it was possible if someone hit the friend and she thought that it was a ridiculous question. Um, my eyes swollen this morning. And in fact, when

I went into the kitchen before I left to go to the gym, Trent was like, what happened to your eye? And I'm like, evidently, you hit me in your sleep. So I do think that's possible. A black eye though? But when it's on a child, like, if we're talking about a legitimate black eye, I don't think you just wake up with a black eye.

So that is almost as weird as Creed on his ear, like right here on his cartilage. Um, bruised, it got really bruised last week, right? Like so bruised that I was like, that almost split open kind of thing. And I'm like, what in the fuck happened? So I asked him, I'm like, did you hurt yourself? Did you hit your head? And he's like, yeah, in the playroom. And I'm like, okay, no, because that's such a weird, like just like your eye, I feel like that you would know

where that came from kind of thing. He claims it's from the playroom. I told the teacher, I was like, he says it's from the playroom. I don't fucking know if it's from the playroom. If he tells you something different, please tell me because I don't know where that came from. I don't think that I would believe someone if they were like, Oh, I got it in my sleep. That's like not something on your leg or your arms. That's like this big, like a legitimate black eye. I mean, I got one, I got kicked in the face. I walked in front of someone that was swinging

on the swing set when I was a kid and she kicked me in the face. And I got a legitimate black eye, right? Like I got punched in the face before, legitimate black eye. That's not something that you just like doing your sleep. I feel like if you wake up with a bruise, that's like one thing. And I do think that's common for people. I'm not an easy bruiser, but some people are like very

easy bruisers and can bruise from just like being touched. But if we're talking about a legitimate black eye. No, I'm concerned. I'm calling CPS. Yeah. Um, if I'm not calling CPS right away, I'm concerned. I'm calling CPS. Yeah. If I'm not calling CPS right away, I'm definitely making contact with those parents and questioning. I mean, it probably wouldn't really be my place.

But if you're comfortable enough to send your child to my house with a black eye, then I feel comfortable enough to ask you why she had it. I would agree with that. Yeah, like I'm calling CPS as being like you're, I'm exaggerating, but also like, yeah, if your daughter is coming to my house or your child is coming to my house, I have to know because I can't be blamed for this

when they get picked up. So I wanted to hear what you had to say before I continued reading, but this woman says, so we get home, the mom texts me. Thanks for having her over and bringing her home. I don't know what happened to her. I must have been a rough night sleeping. So she randomly brought up the eye without being prompted. I see red, red, red flags, but

also we're friendly with the parents that have known the family for a few years now. And they don't otherwise give off red flags. I don't want to make trouble for it if it's nothing, but I don't want to ignore something if it could be really bad. Am I overthinking? And what would you do? I can just say as a mom, if Jackson's ever been hurt to the situation that you were just talking about, Creed, in the playroom, I'm probably

going to bring up something without being prompted to the preschool to let them know, hey, he fell outside on his scooter or whatever so that they don't feel like I'm hiding anything. Well, so to your point, when I have a picture of the bruise on Cruz's ear, it's just like, such a weird place. On the way out, I said something to the director as well. I said, hey, I don't want anyone to like question this or think I didn't see it. I said, he has a really weird bruise right here. He doesn't know what happened.

I don't know what happened. I did say, you know, if he tells the teacher, like to please let me know, she seemed fine with it. But I feel like a school setting and being proactive in that way, or it's just very different than like a mom texting unprompted about it. And are all that just like me being suspicious or I don't know?

I mean it makes me suspicious too because I would think that before the child got with the friend that maybe that would be a time that I would maybe text like ahead of time and be like, hey, like don't want you to be alarmed. She does have a black eye and we don't really know what happened versus wait until the child's dropped off and then addressing it. Correct. That's I'm with you. Like I would address it at the time of drop off at the time of contact. I would be like, Hey, I don't like Chris and I have done that. Like, Hey, what is this? You know, or I've message him and been like, Hey, he has this like bruise. This is what happened. I didn't do that with the ear thing because and been like, hey, he has this like bruise. This is what happened.

I didn't do that with the ear thing because I was like, I'll get blamed for it regardless. So I just didn't say anything to him. But like, I know I documented it myself and I was just like, what the hell? But for this child, and I don't know if she's at an age where she might defend her parents. Like not saying her parents did it,

but like I was in fourth grade when I defended my mom doing some crazy fucking behavior and I said that she didn't do it. Well, I was gonna say a lot of kids, I think that are found in these types of situations. If that type of abuse is going on, I think that they are likely to defend their parents because they're more afraid of the unknown than the fear that they have of the known.

Yep, I would agree with that. I did not know. Which is so scary. So on our Facebook group, I saw this this morning, this person writes, you and your husband or boyfriend split up. What's the first petty complaint that he tells his new girlfriend about you? Um, I flick my contacts everywhere. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. Why do you do that?

I don't know. I just feel like they just dissolved into the abyss. No, they don't. Yeah, they do. Kill. No, they don't. They literally, if you have white tile, like in your bathroom one time, a contact got, I don't wear contacts, but it was someone's contact.

It got on my white tile and it just left like a blue. I found like these little tiny blue films like all over and I was like, what, what is this? Am I being pranked? Like, why are these things here? And it almost looked like, have you ever had like a piece of gum like dissolve in your mouth like a little bit? Yeah, like you've just been chewing it for so long.

Yeah. It almost looked like little pieces of that and I'm like, okay, is Jackson going and chewing like little pieces of gum and then just like throwing them in my bathroom floor? Like, what is this? No contacts. Oh, I literally just like take them out. But would everyone know that about you? Everyone knows that about me. All of your past partners. Well, no, not my past partner because I started wearing contacts like last year. So everyone in my house knows that. Like the other night I literally was like laying there and I forgot to take them out. So I literally took them out and I just hand them to Elijah. Like just take these, like do something with them.

Okay. So mine would be every person that I've ever been with knows this. Don't talk to me before 9 a.m. Oh, I even know that. I even know that. Like why are you talking? There is absolutely nothing important before that time.

Yeah, pretty much. If you need me to know something, make a sticky note on the kitchen counter. And when I pass by, I'll see it and I'll address it when it's appropriate to address. Or like text it. Or text it. So some of these comments had me just cackling. This one woman says she gets overstimulated in loud situations but she's never used an indoor voice in her life. That's also me. She sheds too much in her hair ties are everywhere.

Okay, I mean, fair enough. She complains no one helps clean. But when you do, you don't get to do it the way she likes. I've gotten better I swear. That one's tough. I'm sure that one, a lot of people will be able to relate to. She doesn't like to drive but constantly critiques and gaffes for her life when I'm driving. And I'm the only passenger princess that does not really pay attention to the road if they're not driving. I hate Elijah driving me anywhere. Why? I don't like the way he drives and he hates the

way I drive. So I'm just like let's just drive separate because I don't like the way he drives. And he hates the way I drive. So I'm just like, let's just drive separate because I don't like the way you drive. And he is always complaining about wine. So but wait, how does Elijah drive? Like a bat out of hell. Oh, so it's like scary. Like you're worried about your life. Kristen said so to you. But I don't agree. Oh, no, you no, you do. I saved us. She's the one that almost killed us, not me. I mean, Kristen finds every curb that exists.

And a parked car. She almost hit a parked car and a curb. So no one died, but also that's worse than me. I'm just like, listen, on coffee combos, podcast trips for 2024, we should just hire a driver. I am the designated driver. I might run us out of gas, but I will not wreck us. We all have some kind of we might as well just hire somebody. Absolutely. Okay. So someone says she stops the microwave before it beeps and doesn't clear the time left. I also do this. Everyone in my house does this

and I get so mad because I'll go to look at the time on my microwave and it'll say seven seconds or two seconds. And I'm like, do y'all know how to, also the other thing that irks my soul is like my faucet in my kitchen sink. It has like the hose that you can pull down. Yeah. People will like let it go and

let it like just come up, but it doesn't go all the way up. And so like the part of the hose is still like kind of down. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Oh, mine has that. And I'm like, put it all the way back, put the hose all the way back up. Like you just like pulling it down and then just letting it go is irking my soul. But think about the little things that we care about. They're so small and like minute and a grand scheme of life. But the things that we should care about, we probably don't. Right? This person said she does, she doesn't know how to fully complete a load of laundry. So it isn't wrinkled. If I could find somebody to do something for me, it would be the folding process and the putting away process.

Like if it was like that, just like that service, that would be absolutely fantastic. Because you want it done your way, but you don't want to put it away. Okay, do you fold all of your stuff the exact same as Elijah folds his stuff? And do you fold your kids stuff the same way as you fold your stuff?

I have not done a load of laundry in five years. So I could not tell you. Back up, back up, ma'am. I pay someone to do our laundry. I'll wash like blankets and towels sheets, but I do not I have not touched a clothing load of laundry. That is one of the things that when we talk about budgeting, I would be willing to cut coffee out of my budget every single day for the rest of my life if that means that I could continue paying for someone to do my laundry. I do not do laundry. That is probably one of the best perks of your life because I feel like my washing machine, that bitch is always running.

No, it's, they do it at my house. But like, for example, I'll tell you right now, I can tell you how many loads of laundry were done last week. Because I can't- How do you know this? Well, she tells me. She'll tell, it's like listed on my, like when I pay, it's like listed how many loads were done each day. So I can tell you that right now.

I did not fucking do them. I can tell you that. October 9th, five loads. October 10th, four loads. October 11th, one load. October 12th, two loads. Wait, do that math. So.

And one week, that's how many? Five plus four is 9, plus 1 is 10, plus 2 is 12. 12 loads in 4 days. I probably do 4 loads of laundry on average a week, but that's not including like blankets and sheets. Oh yeah, I don't, she might have done some sheets if I didn't get to them But like I don't have a problem just because it's super easy and I I don't I really do like my towels folded a certain way Alisha and I do not fold towels the same way But I'm willing to also just not give a fuck because I hate I lo I would rather do dishes and take the trash out ten times

Over then to do laundry. Okay, so does Elijah? and take the trash out 10 times over than to do laundry. Okay, so does Elijah square fold and you try fold? Yes. That is a simple man and woman makeup. And I like when I fold my towel, so I fold them like this, I fold them down, and then I fold them down again. And when I put them away, I like for it to look like the roll part is on the outside of the closet. Yes. Not the end of the towel. It has to is on the outside of the closet. Yes. Not the end of the towel.

It has to be on the inside of the closet. It makes you feel like you're out of spa, but you know you're not because you have kids. Correct. But at least you have like the look of it. Correct. Like I like my bathroom. My bathroom closet is nice and organized. I wish it was a little bigger, but I like it organized. I just think that every man that I have ever known always square folds a towel until they've been with me and then their entire towel folding routine changes. Yeah, and it sounds like and you're like, I just groomed you for the next one. Great. Thank you so much. Listen, can we talk about that for a second? Is that not the worst thing ever

when you dedicate so much time of your life to somebody? Like training this man. Like I have trained you up in all your ways. And now someone else is gonna get to benefit from every fight that we ever had to get you to do things the way that you do them now. And now you're gonna go do them for someone else and they're gonna be like, oh my God, who raised you?

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As we called it at the salon, I was always skeptical when I saw men book this service on my schedule because it just seemed so uncommon to me. Most of my male clients were all very respectful and nothing was awkward. Every single man that came in for a wax got hard, which realistically made my job much easier, but was always so strange how much a service would have, but was always so strange how much a service would have,

but was always so strange how such a service would have a man get hard. Yeah, that is weird. So you would think it would go soft because of the pain, but anyhow. Anyhow, I had one guy come in who was super personable and friendly and I was confident and wouldn't be an awkward appointment. I personally thought he was gay based on the attire he was wearing. Yes, I judged a book by its cover, but it's the vibe I got. I start the service and all is well at first. I'm sure you're wondering, and yes, he got hard just like the rest. Again, all is well, and this just makes my job easier. As I continue, I notice he grabs his dick and moves it over to the opposite side that I'm on. I thought this was odd but continued only to notice once he moved his hand. He had in fact came all over his thigh.

What? Luckily, I was just about done with the service. No words were spoken for a good amount of time. And in such shock, not knowing what to do, I continued and completed the service as if nothing happened. Not sure if that was a common thing that's happened with his previous estheticians, but there was clearly no embarrassment on his end as he tried to book with me the following month. Spoiler alert, I did not put him on my books again. Okay, I have a question here.

Is that sexual assault? How do you just come on somebody and like not say anything? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, is that sexual assault? Like, I just feel like that's like, yeah, you're an esthetician. And yes, is that sexual assault? Like, I just feel like that's like, yeah, you're a anesthetician, and yes, you're waxing private parts, but you don't sign up for the sexual part of it. And my question is, is how would men just regularly get hard during this type of service?

I don't think there's anything arousing about that. Painful and like, maybe a little awkward. So like, I know I wasn't wet in myself when I was getting wax. Like I was not and I've gone both ways. That's not a thing. That's not a thing. Kristen said, I believe it's in between essay and sexual harassment because again, like yes,

you're signing up, same for like a massage therapist. You're signing up to massage people but you're not signing up for, and like you're not signing up to be like jizzed on Kristen said it's common for men to get hard during that and a massage. It's just a body response Okay, the the getting hard I understand I guess like just like a natural response, but like to come I mean, yeah, I mean that like you climaxed So like that part is what I'm concerned about. Cause if she's saying like across the board,

it's pretty common for men to get hard. Okay, I give them a pass because you can't, you just can't control that, but you can't contain yourself enough to not to just. And like how did it get to that level that you were able to do that unless you're just a precommer? Also, if you knew that that would happen,

or like if you've done manzillion before and you've come before or you think that there's a possibility that you could come from it, I don't think that you should subject somebody to that. Or you should warn them and they should be able to choose if they want to like, Hey, I know this is really awkward and kind of embarrassing, but like I might come. Would you still want to wax me? If you were brazen enough to just blow a load, shouldn't you have been man enough to say something about it? Sounds lovely to me.

Like I am so sorry that this happened. I've always wondered, not about waxing, but I've always wondered when men, and it probably happens with women too, I'm sure. Probably just as frequently as women. When you go into like a massage place, how do things turn from like you're just there getting a deep tissue massage to it's a rub and tug now? Like how does that?

I don't think that happens to women as much as men. But like how does that transition? I remember I was getting my nails done in Delaware and it was like a full service salon. So they had massage hair nails the whole nine and the massage therapists came out of the room and the guy had just left and he had blew a load everywhere. And so they were like, we're not gonna book him again. Like I just overheard the conversation because they were telling the nail tech about it because she worked there.

And they were just like, we're not, this is the second time this has happened, we're just not gonna book him again. So I just feel like if you are prone to that happening, you need to be able to give them a heads up they should be able to choose, right? It's like being in an open relationship. Give me the option of whether I want to be in an open relationship, right? You can't just go out here and cheat and not say anything.

Give me the option. Do I want to sign up for this or not? Okay, listen, I think this would be something good for a shark tank, because I've thought about this before, first time I've ever saying this publicly. Massage tables for people with dicks, like you know how they have like the head hole? Yeah, like a dick hole. Yeah. Right?

If there's anything in there, then there's, I mean, maybe have like an absorbent pad so you don't know. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I think that would be a good idea. We need to do a little bit investigating on that. The next person writes in and says, Hello, friends, I haven't shared this story with anybody because it was embarrassing, but here we are 11 years later. So why not share it now with two of my favorite podcasters? Oh, thanks. So I lost my virginity at 17 senior year, homecoming night, great night. Everything was fine. Oh, thanks. So I lost my virginity at 17 senior year, homecoming night, great night, everything was fine. Well, we were safe and use protection

good for your seven. I'm so proud of you. I'm proud. After the deed was done, we cleaned up and go to sleep. One problem I couldn't find the condom anywhere at 17 and 19 idiots one and two decided, Oh, well, oh, well, and we went to sleep. Morning came and left with some friends because we didn't know what happened. My boyfriend at the time had dropped off plan B. Oh, no. Went home later that day had to pee and I guess what came right out of my cooter. You guessed it. Sucker was stuck on in there for a little bit. Yes, I went to the restroom in between the deed and going home, nothing happened.

Not once did it occurred to me to even think about it still being inside of me as we were looking around for it. Once I figured it out, I kept that to myself because at 17, it was, and it being my first time, it was embarrassing. Wait, so is that common? It happened to me before. Wait, tell me more.

I don't remember who, but it definitely happened to me before and This can also happen And I'm not saying this is what happened to me But it can happen if like say you're like having sex right and then they're not hard anymore And they keep going a little bit and then they pull out it like slips off and inside it stays inside you Okay, that makes sense to me. Kristen said that this has also happened to her before she got off the top and it came right with her. So my question though is, wouldn't it like

dangle out some? Sometimes yes and sometimes no because if you if the part if the conomist not the right size too, and they continue having sex, you have to think it's come off, and then they're penetrating you so it sheds back in. My question though is, if she didn't take plan B, she obviously could have gotten pregnant then, right, because the condom came off. Can you still?

I would imagine so because you don't know at what point it came off. So if you- True. You know what I mean? True. Yeah. I feel because you don't know at what point it came off. So if true, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I feel like I don't know if this is true and this is how crazy it is that we're in our 30s and we still don't know these answers. But like, if it like leaks out of the condom, I'm pretty sure the swimmers like they can still try to swim, you know, like if they're in that like warm wet environment, I'm pretty sure they can still like... Get up there? Yeah. Kristen says yes, they can.

Okay, so see, I mean, that's terrifying. I'm glad you took... I'm glad you took your time. Those would have to be strong swimmers. I mean, not saying that it couldn't happen, but I just wonder if it's like less likely to happen, but still a chance. Probably. You know?

Totally. God, that would be absolutely atrocious to like wake up the next day, go to the bathroom and just find like a condom dinglin' around. Yeah, I mean, I think I found mine the next day also. Like I was like, oh my God, there it is. Were you alarmed? I don't really, I just, I know this happened to me because I know where like I can picture myself

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