Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Sport Struggles, Unhealthy Trends & Uncomfy Eye Contact

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

CC335: Kail is feeling her best these days and she wants the same for her kids. Which is why she's trying to balance out their wardrobe when it comes to graphic tees. Lindsie comes across a trend call...ed Legging Legs and she IS NOT with the body shaming. Kail finds herself in a predicament with all the kids' sports. How many sports is too much for a kid? When and how do you pick which one is the most viable longterm? This week's Foul Plays give us a nice mix of office foul and sex foul! Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! DraftKings: Download the DraftKings Casino app, sign up with promo code COFFEE, and new customers get a deposit match up to ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS in casino credits when you deposit $5 or more IQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000. By Texting 64000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from IQBAR. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply, available at IQBAR.com. Reply "STOP" to stop, "HELP" for help NYX Cosmetics: Get your NYX Cosmetics Pro Fix Stick Concealers at your favorite makeup retailer Pretty Litter: Visit PrettyLitter.com/coffee and use code [coffee] to save 20% on your first order. Terms and conditions apply. See site for details.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is presented by Knicks Cosmetics Pro Fixed Dick Concealers. Friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. Happy Thursday. Good morning, Coffee Convos podcast. How are we doing? I feel like I am put together today and I didn't realize how good it makes you feel to put yourself together first thing in the morning.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Let me just tell you that until this year, 2024, I did not realize I won't go as far as saying how unhappy I was, but I will say I have not been myself for the past three years because I get ready five or six days now out of the week and I absolutely love it. I don't do it for anyone else but myself and I love it. Like it has changed my confidence level. It's changed the week and I absolutely love it. I don't do it for anyone else but myself and I love it. Like it hasn't changed my confidence level. It's changed the way that I look at myself. It's changed that way. It's just changed so much for me and I will say probably since 2019, I would say until the twins were born. I have not felt this way. I can see the confidence in you coming back. I feel like whenever we first met, you were way more confident than you were
Starting point is 00:01:29 over the past three years. I do think that you can get into a rut where you're just trying to do all the things that life brings your way and throws at you. And you're like, the last thing I wanna do is truly wake up and do all of this, but it feels really good to do it. I did it for the first time in the last couple of days, just putting myself together.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I was waiting until mostly the end of the day to get ready because I would go and meet Trent for dinner or meet a girlfriend for dinner. And I would just look like a bum all day, taking care of everything that needs to be taken care of in the house, like doing work obligations. I don't even care if I'm sitting behind a computer, I feel so much better and just more available to do things different times of the day,
Starting point is 00:02:18 because I am put together. And I used to go on Instagram and play the comparison game. And I would see like these mom influencers that were getting on Instagram stories at 7 30 a.m. and they looked like they were ready to walk out the door, all put together hair fix, makeup done. And I'm like, how do they find the time to do it? But I think I realized that I needed to prioritize a sleep routine. I needed to be a little bit more methodical when it came to preparedness for life. So getting lunches ready, you know, the night before, or making sure that the laundry and stuff was folded that was in the
Starting point is 00:02:58 dryer that I put in the day before. Like, all of those things are so important. I think that I would just go to bed with everything needing to be done, knowing that it needed to be done. And then I woke up and I was like, okay, the only thing I can really do is just wash my face and brush my hair. And then everything else is going to have to wait. I also feel all those things. I wasn't, I was so tired. It just felt like in the morning, I don't care how I look. I'll just take the kids to school. However, I look, I'll get ready later. But why? Like, I'm tired, but that tiredness is not going to go away, whether I'm ready or not. So I might as well get ready, make myself at least feel better.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I also want to say, I wasn't planning on talking about this, but I was paying for everyone around me to do all the things for me. And so I got into a habit where I wasn't doing things myself. And so I didn't have to do things myself. Does that make sense? So now- But do you feel like now, because you're in such a different mental headspace that you want to take on this task now?
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm able to because, obviously, I'm not sleeping because of the twin schedule which is different than just like not just not living great and not having good sleep but I'm also eating better and I'm taking more things on myself and I want to do those things and I want to take pride in them. I just kind of feel like I was in a place where I was like letting a lot of people do a lot of things for me and it wasn't I don't't know how to explain it. Like you kind of explain it better than I am right now, but that's kind of where I was. And so now I'm just, I'm sleeping better. Elijah and I are a much better team than when we started because now I feel like we're into
Starting point is 00:04:34 like we have a system, we have a routine that works for us. And so I just feel better. And I think a lot of it is also like not eating the shit that I've been eating. Like I don't go to Starbucks every day. I make coffee at home. I do my own stuff now and I just like getting right. Like I love picking on my outfit, even like not today's outfit, but last episode's outfit.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I was like, Elijah, like what goes with this? And like I want to look cute. I want to put to be put together. I want, I just want to feel good about myself. I want my kids to feel good about me. I don't want them to be embarrassed about what I'm wearing. I don't want them to be, not that that stuff matters, but it just makes me feel good so that I put more pride into other things, if that makes sense. 100% makes sense because I got in that rut over the past two years, where I was just like, none of the getting ready stuff even matters and like what I'm wearing, it's just closed.
Starting point is 00:05:27 So I don't really care, but I do think that there is something to be said for, and it's hard whenever you're self-employed, I feel like because most people that are going to a job, they're getting ready every single day. And I'm like, oh, those people seem to be so productive. Why is it that they seem to be so much more productive than me? And it's like because they have a dedicated schedule that they are adhering to every single day. I love it. I don't regret it right now. And I'm not saying that it's going to be like
Starting point is 00:05:57 this all the time. I'm sure I'm going to go through other phases and periods of time where I go back to not getting ready every day or almost every day. But for right now, I do love it. And right now I'm in a phase of life where it makes me feel good. And so for now, I mean, I can't say that it's going to be like this in the summer because I do have a pool. So I'm like, I'm not going to have my hair and makeup done every day. But as long as I feel good, I feel like that's like the most important thing. And so I will say Lincoln noticed and he said, he like looked at me the one day and he's like,
Starting point is 00:06:26 why do you keep wearing makeup? That's so funny. It's so funny because like I feel put together, but I don't think that kids look at it the same way. I don't think that they, I think our kids love us for who we are. And so he was just like, why do you keep wearing makeup?
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I was like, well, I want to feel good. And he's like, but he couldn't understand that like the possibility that makeup makes me feel good because I guess to him, I'm still the same. Like I still do the same thing for him, whether I look like shit or I look better, but I just feel better doing certain things. I want to do the lunches the night before. I want to help Elijah do our own laundry, which I never thought I'd ever say. I want to like do those things where like before it was like,
Starting point is 00:07:06 oh, I don't have to do it, so I'm not going to. That is one thing that I very much miss about a partnership, is having someone to do things with. Like just the mundane life things that none of us like really get excited about doing, but you have somebody to do it with so it kind of like lightens the blow. For sure it does. It's like nobody's really waking up every single day being like, oh I'm really excited to wash my panties. Like you know, but when you have somebody
Starting point is 00:07:38 to do it with in a second set of hands, it's like okay we can carry on a conversation like while I'm folding clothes or whatever. And so I do think that post divorce when I didn't have that, and I was just trying to calibrate to being on my own and doing it because I had not had that in the 12 years before that. And then I had my parents around, you know, dictating telling us what the hell to do. So I had never experienced that. And so I think that I kind of got lazy from the fact of getting ready and just trying to get all of these things done by myself.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And maybe that slipped me into states of depressive thoughts. I think it kept me there. If you rewind back to the time period where I was pregnant with Creed, at that time I was just cleaning service, laundry, child care, just everything I was paying for all of it and it kept me there. I didn't have to do any of it,
Starting point is 00:08:42 so it was easy for me to, I don't wanna say lazy because I don't think that's how, it came me there. I didn't have to do any of it. So it was easy for me to, I don't want to say lazy because I don't think that's how I, it came off maybe as lazy, but really it was just, it was keeping me there because I didn't have to do it. I didn't have to get up for any reason other than making sure that everyone is alive, you know? So that all being said, I did have like a little bit
Starting point is 00:09:00 of a crisis and maybe it was just my, like I get these like hair maybe it was just my like, I get these like, hair brain ideas where I'm like, Oh, I need to do this and I need to do it right now. Kill that is the definition of you, like brain ideas. It doesn't matter. Like, you could have a thought that would take a normal, and I say normal very loosely, like a normal person, a long period of time to accomplish that thing. But Keele gets this idea of something. And
Starting point is 00:09:33 she is the definition of instant gratification like Keele is Amazon. If you look up Amazon, you will see a picture of me in both the description, physical description, and also the instant gratification because I'm also built like any Amazon, like I'm just an Amazon. Anyway, I, so I was like, having this like mental breakdown over Lux and Creed's wardrobes specifically because Isaac and Lincoln are at the age where they kind of know what styles they like, they know, and I kind of know what their styles are. So but they have more control over it Lux and Creed
Starting point is 00:10:07 Every single day fight about their clothes because you're wearing my stuff. I'm wearing your stuff They aren't but they're like that's mine. Stop copying me. Whatever whatever They're both into very much into Batman and Robin and they're also into just like they're still into the cartoon stuff Like now their new thing is Ninja Turtles. And I'm just like, that's great. That's all great and good. How do I balance out this idea of like looking put together and like having cute like little cartoon shirts,
Starting point is 00:10:34 but like it not being too much, right? And I did see that Zara has some like really cute like Batman stuff that's not super cheesy and like just too much, but I have to buy two of it. Now I'm buying two of everything, But I also want them to look at maybe it's because of how I feel about myself and my own wardrobe. Now is like I'm getting dressed. I want to look put together. I also want that for my kids. I don't before I was just kind of letting them put on whatever they wanted because I wanted them to be able to express themselves. But I also want them to look put
Starting point is 00:11:01 together. I want them to have a say in their clothes, but also have staples that they can wear that they look put together. So I was like, okay, what do I do? How do I do this so that it's like nice pants, nice shoes, and just the right amount of cartoon character shirts? Do you know what I'm saying? You're like just the right amount of tacky. This episode is brought to you by IQ Bar. Part of the reason why I feel so good every day is because I love IQ Bar and I was starving in the morning when I wake up. Now I'm not and I feel like it's a really good brain boost too. I talk about IQ Bar all the time to anybody who will listen and I contribute my good mood
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Starting point is 00:13:45 And like you can make it work, but I feel like it's just a season of time. And I was so dedicated to letting Jackson do that, even though I hated it as much as my parents hated it when we were growing up. They never let us wear like cartoon shirts or anything like that. That just was something that we didn't do in our house.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I think they allowed Grayson to do it, but I mean, by that point on the fifth child, they're just like, what the fuck, completely different childhood. I was never allowed to wear it, and I was never allowed to wear black tennis shoes. Like my whole life, my parents would not buy me black tennis shoes. And so when I had Jackson, I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:28 and came back of my childhood, and I was like, I really wanted to wear that character shirt that one time. And I wasn't allowed. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, rewind. What if you wore a black shirt and black, like what if you were wearing leggings and like a top that didn't match white? What shoes would you wear?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Like loafers or mules, mules. Yeah. Like sandals, jelly shoes. Wait, I'm trying to fit like, but okay. I don't like, we were not allowed to have black tennis shoes. And when I started going to private school, the shoe was black. So I could wear like black ballet flats or, I think it was like some type of like black dress shoes
Starting point is 00:15:16 or do they have shoes called like Mary Jane's or something? Kids, I don't know. I think they're called like Mary Jane's or something or bucks, did you ever grow up with Bucks? Never heard of them, but I bought these for myself yesterday. Me and Lincoln got matching. I literally was about to type in Bucks. I just bought these yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Lincoln got, I need to see if you would be allowed to wear these. Okay. I'm so... So we wore these shoes all the time. Would you have, I ordered these yesterday. No, I would have never been able to wear those like when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That was not- What about these? Lincoln got these. Kale, why do those look like grandpas? They're 90s, 60s. I mean, they're cute now, but I just feel like I wouldn't have worn them growing up. These were the shoes that we,
Starting point is 00:16:01 if we didn't wear tennis shoes, my dad would put us like a maze. Are those loafers? They are called Eastland Buck Oxfords. Eastling? Eastland Buck Oxfords. Okay, I've never heard of that. So back to my story, I had one character shirt
Starting point is 00:16:20 that I can remember and it was not even like a character shirt. It was a maroon striped and it was the what do they call it like monochromatic so it was like one darker stripe and then like one lighter stripe but it was all maroon and it had a little emblem right here of Pocahontas and all the moms that's listening to this is going to relate to what I'm about to say next. So when you're in kindergarten, typically you still like preschool in kindergarten,
Starting point is 00:16:54 you still take like a bag of extra clothes. So I always wanted my bag of extra clothes to have that little character shirt in there. And I would find reasons as to why I needed to get dirty so that I could put on my character shirt. So I say all of that to say it is just a season of time and they love it. And I loved my Pocahontas shirt so much. I'm pretty sure my mom still has it. I'll ask her to send it to me if she does so that maybe I can wear it as a crop top now. Because it was just so cute and they just love it so much. And that time is going to go by so fast.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And you're going to miss all of those little moments if you don't let them do it. And then you're going to look back and be like, it really wasn't that big of a deal. Like nobody cares if my kids look put together or not. I only care about it. Yeah. And I mean, and not cares if my kids look put together or not. I only care about it. Yeah, and I mean. And not that they don't look put together
Starting point is 00:17:48 with character shirts. I think I just get so caught up sometimes in what people think I'm supposed to be or and I, and I don't know if that necessarily has anything to do with this, but I think that is maybe subconsciously part of it is like, people expect far more from me than I was expecting for myself. And in some ways that's good.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And because, you know, it's, I want to care, but then I don't want to care too much that it's no longer about real life. Correct. I ended up finding some really cute character stuff from like Zara and H&M, which I thought were like a really good happy medium. Cause I don't want my kids to be embarrassed about their pictures either because
Starting point is 00:18:28 some of these things that they want to wear are crazy. I also went heavy on character pajamas because my kids love sets. Like they love to wear them out. That's not me. That's not my, because I wore t-shirts and underwear. I didn't give a shit. My kids love their matching pajama sets. So I did a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But Zara and H&M, and they had, Iama set. So I did a lot of that. But um, Zara and H&M and they had I loved that I think it was H&M was it Asian one of them had three packs of like the joggers and like the cargoes. They had three packs for a really good deal. So it was like the army green, the tan and the black and it was like a three pack and then I could get a shirt that would was not super cheesy but it was like a three pack. And then I could get a shirt that was not super cheesy, but it was like a cute character shirt that would look cute with that and then have like the nice shoes.
Starting point is 00:19:10 So both of the boys ended up wearing black pants with this like cool Batman shirt because they have to wear the same outfits too. It's like, I'm so tired of them. That's so funny. I mean, obviously I only had one. So I didn't experience that, But I very much did experience buying all of the character pajamas. I think Jackson had like iron
Starting point is 00:19:34 man, spider man, Batman, like all the ones that you could think of. And in my opinion, because they matched and they look so put together that it was so cute. And it was just like that season of time that I did not even care. I was like, if you actually want to wear that pajama set to preschool, like have at it, buddy, like you are Iron Man today. Like you are the best Iron Man that I have ever seen. And I want us to go down memory lane and pull old pictures of our kids and like character stuff and I'm going to be posting all of those.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I have them all stored like on my Facebook. So I'm going to be posting those on my Instagram when this episode drops. I have to ask you if you have seen this going around. I've seen a lot going around on TikTok, but I've also seen some of it on Instagram too. It's a latest social media trend that said to contribute to negative body image and it's called Legging Legs. Have you seen that?
Starting point is 00:20:35 No. Okay. I'm surprised that you haven't. I saw this article pop up because when I started seeing it pop up on these videos, I was like, what the hell is legging legs? And I'm like, I'm wearing leggings all the time. So like, do I need to be mindful of legging legs? Are they talking about camel toes? Like, what are they talking about? So see this article pop up on parents.com. And it says, what are legging legs and why is the term harmful, the latest social media trend to contribute to negative body image.
Starting point is 00:21:05 There has been an influx of TikTokers and influencers using the hashtag Legging Legs to tell everyone, including your tween or teen, what their legs should look like if they want to wear a pair of leggings or tights. Eating disorder experts indicate the latest hashtag is anything but helpful. Instead, it's just one more trend that encourages negative body images and promotes behaviors associated with eating disorders. I can only imagine someone reading that and instantly questioning if they should be wearing leggings
Starting point is 00:21:35 now, and this was said by a certified eating disorder recovery coach and family mentor. No part of our bodies should be singled out. That is no different than the thigh gap trend. Some damaging and toxic message wrapped up with a different color bow. This hashtag has no purpose except make us focus on perfectly imperfect bodies. So as I said, I saw this all over TikTok, which then kind of started surfacing on Instagram because people were reposting these videos and then like posting stuff in their stories about legging legs.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I just, I don't love it. I just don't understand why we have to talk about what people's legs look like in leggings. Like people could say my legs look like pencils and then people would say your legs look whatever they would say your legs look like. I just don't understand why it matters. I always we have always felt like there's like a fine line between what our responsibility is as influencers and creators. But for something like this when it comes to young girls and boys really and body image, I do feel like I'm glad that we're raising awareness around this and we're talking about
Starting point is 00:22:49 it because I never want children or anyone really to feel the way that I felt as a child about my body. Like that's not fair, it's not okay, and it needs to be talked about. Well, and I feel like when you have this younger generation that are engaging with creators on social media and you have people out here talking about like the perfect legging legs, that is enticing people to attain this certain type of body. And you have to think about certain genetic predispositions that people have.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like, why are we doing this? Yeah, and it doesn't even go, it's not just for girls and boys who are naturally heavier. It's also people who are very thin. Sometimes they struggle to gain weight. So let's also talk about that because it's not just about being too heavy for leggings. It's also about the women who, you know, they feel like they're too skinny.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'll just say my personal experience, I tend to lose weight very, very fast. I can also put on some pounds fast, but I have to eat a lot to be able to do that. So I don't have the perfect legging legs. In my opinion either. I have actually been out somewhere one time with someone and a girl walked in and a pair of leggings and this person said she should not be wearing that. And I said, and you should actually shut the fuck up. No, literally.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Literally. Like what she's wearing and what she feels comfortable in is not up to you. And it's not up for you to comment on. At what point did we feel like we needed to be out here commenting on what other people are wearing or aren't wearing? Like she doesn't have the body to wear a crop top or you know, she has a camel toe or no shut up. I always have camel toes. Sorry about that. But in terms of like... Fat cat. I remember like this troll page took a picture. It was actually a coffee convo's trip.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And they were like saying that it was, I'm basically, what is it called, a hermaphrodite? And because I had like... Wait, what? I have a fat cat and they were saying I basically have a penis. And I was like, y'all are fucking trolls. Like I get...
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Starting point is 00:27:18 makeup retailer. No, but I actually love that women who are not, what is the word I'm looking for? Traditionally thin, like they're curvy. I love when curvy women wear crop tops because a lot of curvy women wear clothes that like are super flattering and they show other girls ways to wear things that they normally wouldn't, if that makes sense. 100%. I love to see all, if we were all the same life would be so boring. And I
Starting point is 00:27:48 just feel like everybody should be celebrated, however they are. And you shouldn't be, it's so I say you shouldn't be comparing yourself. But I think that we all do it. It's just like a natural thing that we do. But when you see trends like this, I think it's unnecessary elevation of comparison. This article also went into posing the question, what role does social media play in eating disorders? And it says in a quote, social media is toxic to our body image and sense of self,
Starting point is 00:28:21 seeing images all day long of different bodies, different diets, wellness solutions, constant before and after photos, photoshopped images, the list goes on and on. Before social media, these things existed, but they were not in your hand at all times. Maybe we would read a magazine once a month or see a commercial where you watch TV, but now it's incessant. Once you look at something, the algorithms make sure that you keep seeing similar, if not worse, content,
Starting point is 00:28:45 and it keeps us in a constant state of comparison and feeling like we're not enough. Let me throw it all the way back to Zanga. I found myself looking through this community on Zanga in, I want to say, the ninth grade, and it was how to starve yourself. And I wanted to be thin. And so it was like a point system and like how to avoid eating what you can and can't eat to make sure that you're like in a calorie deficit. And this was back before we knew what we know now, right?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Like there are healthy calorie deficits and then there are ones that are like really dangerous. And it was teaching young girls, like impressionable girls like myself at the time, how to avoid eating when possible, doing extra things to burn extra calories, all of that. It was essentially like Tumblr photos on Zanga of these girls girls that were like not healthy, skinny, inter-exic, and that's what I wanted. That's what I was like. I was like, I have to be like this. That is just such a dangerous game and I say all of this to say if you're listening to this and you have teenage daughters or sons, whatever your life looks like, be mindful of what they are
Starting point is 00:30:02 consuming on social media and stay on top of these trends so that you can have these conversations with your kids because kids see, absorb things, we see, and we absorb things. And if it's hard for us to get outside of that space, imagine a growing child's mind. Oh, 100% because I do it now and I'm almost 32. Like, I'm looking at other, well, how did she lose weight so fast? How, how does, we just talked about, you know, getting up and getting ready and doing all of these things. Like, how is she doing that? Where does she get the energy? How
Starting point is 00:30:34 supportive is her like all of the, oh, do I need a different boyfriend? Do I need a different partner? Because her partner seems to do X, Y and Z. And we don't actually know what the reality of it is, you know? 100%. I used to actually get in that comparison game all the time when I would see several different influencers posting with their husbands all day long. And I'm like, wow, he's so supportive of what she does. And he is playing along.
Starting point is 00:31:03 He's playing his role, doing all the things. And it made me a little bit jealous because I was like, why can't I also have that? But I didn't really realize because a lot of, remember that conversation we were having about that there should be more openness and upfrontness with influencers. If you are influencing and your husband is now a stay at home dad or stay at home husband because your income allows that at this point, I feel like there needs to be an understanding around that to the people that you are talking to every single day on social media because my husband was also Running a full-time job that he didn't have the ability to be able to be those places with me to do that That's a good point and sometimes like Elijah didn't grow up in all of this like I grew up at the peak of all of this
Starting point is 00:32:01 And so it's very different for me to live this. And then he comes into it and I'm like, he would have to like get a haircut once. Like he'd have to just change who he was to fit the mold here. So I just don't, it just feels weird. I listen to comparison game is what do they say? Like the thief of all joy. You know, I have to tell you this other thing that I saw and I, I don't know if it is because of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift bringing so much attention to Kansas City but I feel like one came up a couple of days ago and it was titled,
Starting point is 00:32:47 Kansas City Mother Charged in Death of One Month Old after allegedly mistakenly placing infant in oven. No, I don't wanna hear this. I don't wanna hear it. Well, you have to. This woman was 26 years old. She's facing a class, a felony charge and the death of her child says a mother
Starting point is 00:33:06 in Kansas City, Missouri has been arrested in charge in the death of her one month old infant after allegedly mistakenly placing the baby in the oven instead of a crib. The prosecutor's office said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm reading this from ABC news and we will make sure that we post the article. There's a quote on here that says, we appreciate all first responders who worked this scene and the prosecutors who went to the scene in order to issue these charges.
Starting point is 00:33:36 We acknowledge the gruesome nature of this tragedy and our hearts are weighed by that loss of this precious life. We trust the criminal justice system to respond appropriately to these awful circumstances. Police officers were dispatched to a residence in Kansas City around 1.30 p.m. local time Friday, responding to a call about a non-breathing infant
Starting point is 00:33:57 according to court documents filed Saturday and obtained by ABC News. Upon arrival, officers observed an infant victim had apparent burn wounds according to the court documents. obtained by ABC News. Upon arrival, officers observed an infant victim had had a parent burn wounds according to the court documents. The Kansas City Fire Department responded and declared the one month old dead at the scene according to the court documents. She alleged that she was putting the child down for a nap and accidentally mistakenly placed the child in the oven instead of the crib. I thought that I put and they redacted the child's name and her crib
Starting point is 00:34:27 accidentally put her in the oven. That's what she allegedly told the infant's grandfather who had then given a statement to the police and the court records do not yet show if she has an attorney representing her. If convicted she would face anywhere from 10 years to life in prison. And we know nothing, nothing more. No, I'm so sick to my stomach. When I see stuff like that now, when it comes to like infants and children, I can't, I don't have the stomach for it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I don't have empathy, sympathy for the mother. I don't have compassion for the parent. And I don't even care if this was a case of sleep deprivation. I don't care. I guess I just wanna know more information. I don't know how you mistake an oven for crib because if I wouldn't open my oven right now,
Starting point is 00:35:18 it has two racks in it. Also, why was the oven on? Well, that was the next part that I was gonna say, like it has two racks in it. If you did go and put a baby in an oven, I don't know. I'm just like trying to think like this person. Like if you did... Okay, so have you ever accidentally put cereal in the fridge instead of the milk?
Starting point is 00:35:35 No. Okay, I've done that. Okay, right? But then I realized so quickly, and we're talking about milk and cereal. You're accidentally putting... You're like, oh, shit. I just... Or I accidentally put the milk in the fucking pantry, right? So we'll go out on a limb and say, okay, she's about to cook and she's about to put a baby down for a nap at the same time. I make chicken nuggets for one kid and put a baby down, you
Starting point is 00:35:57 know, for a nap all the time that happens to me all the time. To your point, when you open the oven, this isn't a stove, you're not setting something on top, right? If I have the oven on and there's uncooked food on top of my stove, cause I'm about to make something, and then I open my oven and I go to put something in it, I'm going to realize there are racks in there, and I'm gonna realize the heat.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So any type of like thought process that I was about to be like putting the baby in the oven, I would have snapped out of it, cause I would have been like, oh wait, there's like racks there and there's food on top of that. You get what I'm saying? It's not like milk in a pantry or cereal in the fridge. It's not, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And when she did this, did she put the baby in the oven and then the oven was turned on or was the oven already on and was anybody else? When you hear the baby scream? Yeah. Like how would you not? You hear the baby scream. It makes me feel like the oven had to have been turned on after the fact that the child was already in the oven because wouldn't the baby scream immediately if it touched heat?
Starting point is 00:36:59 But also, I have two infants right now. If I go stick one of my infants in an oven that's not on, they're still gonna scream because they are not comfortable and it's, at some point, they're gonna be like, whether it's on or off, it's just not comfortable. I just can't wrap my head around this story, but I'm gonna continue to follow it because I'm sure that more information will come out later.
Starting point is 00:37:25 This is just so new that there's not a ton of information on it. I was gonna talk to you about kids in sports, but like now I feel some level of guilt about the fact that I'm wondering how many sports is too much for my kids and this kid just, this infant just lost her life, his or her life. That's just so awful. It's so awful. Like I almost don't even know if I believe it. That's disgusting. Well, it was on ABC News and there was the mugshot that was attached. So it is in fact
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Starting point is 00:39:17 about kids in sports? Okay. So as you know, as a lot of my viewers know, we tried getting Isaac in sports. He wasn't with it, got Lincoln into sports. Lincoln now plays every sport. He plays football, basketball, soccer. He's considered baseball. You know, it's a lot. And so, Javi and I have now come to the point where we have to decide what he's playing
Starting point is 00:39:38 and when. And we also have to kind of figure out what certain things, we have to figure out how they, one is one going to interrupt the other. So for example, Cree, Lux right now, I don't have so many kids, Lux right now is in wrestling, soccer and basketball, okay? Sometimes all of them overlap.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So originally I was under the impression that tournaments for wrestling were only on Sundays. Come to find out some of them, which are optional. So I will say that wrestling is way more flexible and it's not as much of a commitment as a team sport like basketball and soccer. But there was one day where basketball and soccer overlapped each other and I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:40:24 So that was my bad for overseeing that. And I missed that one because at that point, I should have said you have to pick one, not just for that day, but just overall, because these are team sports. These are not wrestling where it's like you by yourself, right? So then here comes Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:40:42 He's about to have soccer and basketball, but he has two basketball teams. Chris had brought brought it up to me was like, you know, you keep signing them up for all these things and blah, blah, blah. And normally I wouldn't think twice about it because I feel like it's super important. And when you break down the amount of time they're in school versus the amount of time that they go to sports, I do think that you do need a balance. But at what point is it too much? So we'll say soccer, basketball, and wrestling. We'll say for this example, they don't overlap.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Is that too much? I can just tell you we got burnout on the commitment for baseball with Jackson and it caused him to reach complete burnout. It was like sometimes two games during the week, during season and then a weekend game and then there was like a weekday practice. So I feel like we were always at the baseball field and that was just one sport and one child.
Starting point is 00:41:40 When we got divorced, it is in our custody plan that Will has 100% control of extracurricular, but he can only enroll him in one sport per season. And I think that that is sufficient enough because it gives them time at school. It gives them time with a team. It doesn't have to be a team sport, but something that they want to do that they love. And then also time at home, because I feel like when you're enrolled in all of these things, it's go, go, go, go, go all these places. And then what time are you truly spending at home with your family? So that's where I struggle because and I'm
Starting point is 00:42:20 not saying that to say that like what we're doing is right. I'm just saying that's what works for us. Yeah. But that's what I would ask you, like how much time is given for downtime, because as much as they need the interaction with other children and learn to develop as far as working as a team, they need the stuff from school. They also need that amount of time resting and they need that amount of time with their family.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So that's where it kind of becomes a struggle too because a lot of the sports that my kids are interested in and that they want to play are all during the same time. So it kind of, I feel like at some point, like Lincoln's age, he, at this point, he will have to start picking the sport that he wants to prioritize the one sport during the one season, you know what I mean? So football is kind of moving its way out. Basketball is creeping its way solely in like that's it. And so I feel like he's at the age now where that works. But for Lux right now, because he's so young and he is impressionable, I want him to find something that he really loves and that he's good at. And so I don't mind being go go go. I also love that we're still, the times for practice are still for soccer. As an example for Lincoln and Lux, there's no practices.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's only one game day per week and that's Saturday morning or Saturday evening. So for me, it's very low level commitment, kind of like wrestling. There's optional practices practices three days a week and optional tournaments all the time. So the only real commitment here is one practice, one game day per week for basketball, which I love. So I love that they kind of get to do all the things, but I do think at some point around Lincoln and Isaac's age, you find like that one or two sports.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Now that being said, Lux is in three things right now, but flag football is coming up and so is La Crosse. They're during the same time and overlap maybe two or three weeks of baseball, because baseball is also coming up. So then that's another, that's three sports, flag football, baseball, and La Crosse. What the fuck? You know what I mean? Michael. It's hard too because I see your point of saying you want them to try it and find something that they truly love so that they know that they're making a decision based off of fact versus just like a thought and then investing in that. At the point that Jackson was like, I do not want to play baseball,
Starting point is 00:44:46 that was the hardest thing for Will and I both, because I watched Will play baseball all through college. He dedicated his entire life to that. I know you've dealt with that with Javi a little bit, with soccer too. Like he dedicated so much time to that. And so just naturally, I think the dynamic of like dad and son, they want them to play what they knew. And at the point that Jackson was like, I hate it, I'm like, you
Starting point is 00:45:10 don't have to do it. Let's find something that you love and dedicate your time and your energy to loving that. We are experiencing a little bit of this football thing. Now he wants to play flag, which is fine because basketball is over. So it still falls in line with being in one thing per season. I saw one of my friends who has a child who's about to enter high school and she allowed him to play baseball and basketball all through elementary school and middle school. And she said, if you are going to be committed to baseball and you're gonna do travel baseball, then you are not going to play basketball in high school.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So he played his last basketball game as a middle schooler, I think like a week ago. So, but then that's the other, that's the next thing that we could talk about is the club sports versus, or like the community sports versus the school sports, right? Because right now my kids are all playing sports that are associated with their community, but not necessarily their school. So how do you decide what you're going to play for that too?
Starting point is 00:46:22 So I mean soccer, we actually drive about an hour for indoor soccer because that was the only option for indoor. But Lincoln, for example, our soccer, I don't even know if Boyz soccer and Boyz basketball, are they during the same season or not? Because right now indoor soccer is the same time as- Basketball. It like only overlaps by a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah. But like, how do you decide if you're playing a club sport or a team sport for school? I don't know. I'm a big advocate for school sports, because I feel like you are playing with your classmates, and it's just a deeper connection with the children that you're connecting with Monday through Friday, all school day.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Well, right. So that's the sports right now that the kids are in, aside from soccer, are clubs slash community with the kids from school because the school doesn't have those types of sports. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess like middle school and high school is where they more so have like the team sports for school. But like, I don't know, I don't know, like I guess we just play everything that we can right now until they decide they're one or two sports that they're going to play and be committed
Starting point is 00:47:36 to like I don't really know. I guess until my kids really because the other thing too is like at Lux's age, he wants to sign up and do all these sports, right? Like, gung-ho won't stop talking about it. Like right now, he won't stop talking about tackle football, like will not stop and that's not until the end of the year. At the point that he's like, I really don't want to play this anymore. I feel like if we're able to just let him sign up for everything until he doesn't want
Starting point is 00:48:01 to do it anymore because I would love to know for people who are listening to this, like how you guys structure extracurricular activities in your home and what is deemed too much for you. What might be too much for me doesn't mean that it's too much for somebody else. And I don't care what other people are doing in their household, but I'm just genuinely interested. Because I also don't like it has nothing to do with me. So I will run myself into the fucking ground if my kid wants to play the sports and we've literally driven an hour away at 6 a.m. to get them to a soccer game or get them
Starting point is 00:48:36 to a basketball. I don't care. It's not if it's not too much for my child. It's it doesn't matter if it's too much for me. Does that make sense? Yep. And that's probably not okay but also I don't know. So I'd just be curious. All right, kitties. I wanna tell you guys about DraftKings. DraftKings Casino is bringing you only the best classics like Blackjack, Roulette, and Slot,
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Starting point is 00:50:43 Okay, so you know how we all get on our phones and we scroll. So I will get on my phone one time a day and scroll TikTok and it's usually like late at night before I go to bed. That's when I see all the stuff. So as I've been scrolling lately, I come across these like psychics and mediumship TikToks. And they say that this is a reading like if it resonates with you, then like let it resonate.
Starting point is 00:51:16 If it doesn't, then like keep scrolling. And the majority of these videos do resonate, which is just interesting because obviously they're not connecting like specifically to me. So like how was this stuff, how was this stuff on my feed and why do I get so creeped out about it? And then also it'll get like to the end of some of these videos and it's like, if you don't share this or like like this or comment, then like it's not going to happen or something.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Like you're not going to manifest it. So then that freaks me out and I never share any of the stuff. And then I just keep scrolling and I'm like, okay, is this like bad juju? Like I just watched this video and then at the end of it, it's like you need to share it, comment, like whatever, or this manifestation is not going to come true. So I'm like, that's manipulation. And so you don't want those to come true anyways.
Starting point is 00:52:13 If you read something and you really resonate with it and you love it, then you can immediately exit the app and then repeat the manifestation or whatever it is and not have to repost it or reshare it because that part does not matter. That is manipulation. Okay, so am I being manipulated by these psychics and mediums on TikTok? Yes. But have you also seen these videos? No, never. Okay, so then why am I seeing them? And then also some of them will not even be in their voices. It'll be some distorted computer voice thing. OK. And it'll have, it's not like somebody's face,
Starting point is 00:52:52 it'll have these cards on the video. And then it's this computer voice that's voiced over while you're looking at these cards. And it freaks me out. I think you're spending too much time on these accounts, because now the algorithm is pushing these videos to you so that you keep seeing them. So what you need to do is when you're scrolling,
Starting point is 00:53:11 you need to be intentional with your scrolling and be intentional with where you're spending your time and what you're looking at, because that's what the algorithm is gonna push towards you. So maybe it's just I watch these videos and then like every other one is a new one of these. And I'm like, okay. No, we're done with that
Starting point is 00:53:30 because it's also probably just like not healthy for you to like have these like conflicting thoughts where you're like, okay, I really resonate with this, but if I don't like and share it, something bad is gonna happen. At some point you'll start believing. I know, I know. So who?
Starting point is 00:53:42 And then I thought, I saw like, okay, first of all, I put stuff in the dryer last night before I went to bed. If you are a single gal and you are at home by yourself, highly suggest not putting jackets in the dryer to dry right when you go to bed because you just hear this like, like noise. I also convinced myself that I saw somebody walking through. I'm scrolling on TikTok watching this stuff, right? And I'm like, I think somebody's in my kitchen. And then I have my little flashlight out again, and I'm like looking behind the doors in my room. And I'm like, okay, this is just completely not healthy.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And I have to talk to Kale about this, like something's wrong. Yeah, I've done that. I've also just like forgot that I ran the dishwasher or like just little things like that when I was living by myself and you're like, oh my God, that I just freaked myself the fuck out. Yeah. Like why I felt like I needed to dry, you know, jackets last night at nine o'clock. I don't know. You ask, you know? Yeah. Okay, so this was a listener question.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Someone said, is making eye contact during sex awkward or normal? Think it depends on the couple. And it depends on the scenario. Here's the thing. Why do people want to put a general and like blanket statement over everything? What is the situation,
Starting point is 00:55:03 what may be true for one person or one couple? It's not necessarily what happens for the next. So some people love- Okay, but you have to answer for you. So for me specifically, I should not be bumping uglies with somebody that I don't want to make eye contact with. Because I do think that that is like make eye contact with because I do think that that is like additional layer of intimacy. And so that brings me to this point. If you cannot make eye contact with your partner or sex partner on any given day with your clothes on, one, why are you having sex with them and two,
Starting point is 00:55:40 of course, making eye contact with them during sex is going to be awkward if you can't do it with your clothes on Correct, like I should be able to look into Elijah's eyes for For however long we want without breaking away and saying this is uncomfortable or this is awkward Number one if I am why is that awkward and uncomfortable sometimes what like eye contact? It's not uncomfortable with me and Elijah But I'm just saying like in general like why is that is that because it's if I'm looking directly into your eyes, you're not I'm I shouldn't be insecure because you're not looking at my insecurities. You're looking into my eyeballs. I don't know. I don't know the answer. All I'm saying is I'm not going to be
Starting point is 00:56:19 I need to Google this intimately involved with someone that I can't like stare at their soul through their eyeballs while I'm having sex with them. Why is it uncomfortable? To me, it's more awkward if you were not to have eye contact than if you do have eye contact. There are countless reasons a person might have difficulty maintaining eye contact with others, including social, cultural, personal, mental, and emotional reasons. But then it talks about ASD. Well, some people say that if you don't make eye contact, that that means you're a liar and you're not, I don't know, like, what is it, like, you're not being fully forthcoming about whatever you're saying.
Starting point is 00:57:06 There are so many things I've read about this. Okay, Kristen just messaged us and said, do y'all look back to your doggy because I don't want to see anybody looking at my butthole. Why I cannot honestly say I maybe did it one time in my whole life. I don't look back when I'm doing doggy. Like first of all, first of all, my shoulders are too big to see beyond. My neck has so much fat on the back of it that I can't turn my head around enough. Is that the farthest you can turn your head?
Starting point is 00:57:36 I have no mobility in my upper extremity. I think you need to go get a massage. I absolutely do, but yeah, I can't. I think that's called tension. Like in the next one, I can work callus do what? Cordicolis, toward a callous is when these these muscles are super tight. And so like, like, I'd have to turn my body to look. Oh, my God. My answer is yes on that. Yes on what? Which part? Looking back. During doggy? Yeah, 100%. I want to see what you're doing back there. Yeah. I want to see what you're doing back there. I want to see what you're doing, but I also want to make eye contact. I don't know about eye contact during doggy, but I mean, whatever. Okay, I want to ask you this question. And then we need to do foul
Starting point is 00:58:29 play. This was a quote I saw on Instagram. Someone quoted, call me crazy, but cheating in 2024 doesn't start in the bedroom or suddenly driving over to their house. Cheating starts with a friend request, a like, a heart reaction to their story. It's time we call it for what it is. It starts with an emotional cheating and it leads to physical. I agree.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I wholeheartedly. Where did you see that? Agree with us. I saw it. Oh, I saw it in your, okay. Yeah, I think the, you know how we've had conversations about cheating being different when our grandparents were our age?
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. Our ages. I will say that I think that was more like you meet somebody and you start an affair because you physically had to meet them. You weren't just like calling them up on a whim. You had to get their phone number. You had to go meet up with them.
Starting point is 00:59:19 It had to be intentional. Where I think now the unintentional affairs are happening, the unintentional cheating that starts off unintentional is happening and then it turns, it becomes intentional, but also the straying of liking and commenting on pictures and stuff has made it easier to cheat and to begin affairs and cheating. I just think I had a situation that happened to me. It's like, why are you following like these random people that everybody else is like family members or people that like you personally know that I know that you personally know because I now know those people. Why are you following somebody random that you don't know from Adam?
Starting point is 01:00:08 And why is this person liking your photos and why was there ever any communication over DM? That to me is like early stages of a wandering eye and a cheating mind. And let's be clear that you can't, no amount of unfollowing or making them unfollow these people is gonna make them not cheat. Like those who are doing those things
Starting point is 01:00:33 are gonna find a way to do them. Oh, 100%, 100%. And I think that it's- Elijah and I had a conversation like that when we first got together was like, what are the boundaries when it comes to social media? Because social media is one of my streams of income. And then it's not for him and he doesn't spend a lot of time on social media. So what does that look like for us? And so that was one of the conversations that we had to have because I wanted to see where his head was at when
Starting point is 01:00:59 it comes to social media. But I agree, like there's no, for anyone that I'm in a relationship with, why are you following certain account or why are you putting yourself in a position to see that type of content on your feed to like it? You know? And that's not just Elijah. That goes across the board for anyone I'm seeing. It's like, it's just unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I just wanted to see how you felt, but it seems as if we feel aligned the same way. We are very aligned and on that note, foul play. Okay, we got it. Alright, I started my first long time career job in my mid 20s. Me and one of my co workers headed off almost immediately and the exchange of numbers texting and flirting all day commenced. Yes, dumb I know a couple of weeks later, our
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Starting point is 01:01:59 Well, by this point, the conversation had taken a sexual turn. I look at my Apple Watch and read the latest text from my coworker and decide it would be a brilliant idea to send the first nude. So I absolutely chose my very best, very explicit nude. So before I chickened out, I quickly unlocked my phone and sent the nude. I immediately realized what I had done and wanted to die right there. I had been texting with my coworker all day, so I hadn't backed out of that conversation,
Starting point is 01:02:25 but I had forgotten our supervisor had been the last person who texted me and didn't back out of that conversation before I locked my phone last. I sent this explicit nude to my boss with my face in it and all the goods on display. I had never prayed so hard for an unsent button in my life. I stood there in shock, and then the wonderful read receipt pops up.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Neither one of us spoke of this mistake and I can only imagine how many people whispered about it behind my back. Fortunately, a year later, he transferred offices so we will no longer have to interact on a daily basis. When I tell you I have never sent another nude, I mean that shit. On the bright side, my co-worker and I have now been married for five years and no, I have never told my now husband what happened because I do my best to pretend like it didn't. Love you ladies. Okay. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:03:11 To have your face in it and everything. Okay. I have to ask you this question about nudes. So we've all sinned it. Okay. So if you're going to come on here and act like that you have not sent a nude, I'm calling your call. Absolutely. And I'm calling liar to whoever's listening to this acting like
Starting point is 01:03:30 they haven't done it. To me, I'm not sending like an explicit nude to somebody that I haven't been physical with. That's just like my rule. Like unless I am. I think that's a good rule, but I can't say that I've ever, I can't say that I have lived by that. Fair, fair.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I have definitely made the mistake of sending nudes before I was physical, but now that you say that, that's a really good point. Yeah, I just think it's like a good rule. Why do they need to see it if they haven't seen it? If they haven't, right. If you don't know me, if you have not come close enough to have it, then you don't need to see it.
Starting point is 01:04:05 See it, correct. That's a really good rule to abide. A good rule. I have accidentally like text somebody, a text that was like meant for somebody else, not a nude, but like a text that was meant for somebody else that was not to them. And also we did not have the unsend button at that time.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So- But also why does, why does I message have to say so and so unsent a message? Like why does it have to do that? I love that it does that because I'm like, okay, now you're a coward. If you were bold enough to send me to take your time to type out whatever it was that you needed
Starting point is 01:04:46 to type out and you sent it to me, just stand on that. Stand on business. Because now I'm going to be more pissed off that I have to look at so and so unsent the message. Why are you out here unsending? Because you evidently had no business sending it in the first place, which is why you unsent it. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I agree. Just stand on business. Stand all the way up. Stand on business. I cannot imagine though sending my boss an explicit nude and then having to go back to work. So this brings me back to my like dental days because that was, I think my dental assisting job was my last like hourly, I call it, like hourly position.
Starting point is 01:05:26 My last full-time hourly position, I would have been thankful if that was the boss that I sent a nude to, because she was very nice and I just loved her. So I would have been thankful if that was the one. Could you imagine though, just first of all, my last hourly position boss was my dad. That would be double whammy.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I'm not coming home. Consider me a runaway. Consider me dead because you will never see me again. Well, he would take away your phone. You'd get a flip phone. I just wish that I knew, unfortunately, this is the way my mind works. I just wish I knew how explicit this nude was. Like, are we just talking like?
Starting point is 01:06:07 No, she said it was all the goods and she said it was her face and everything, her best nude. Her best nude. That's another question that I have to ask. Like, when someone takes a nude, are you like, oh, that's a good one? Yeah, absolutely. And like, are they all different?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Kristen said her vagina was probably open. Like, oh, she was probably, yeah, she was showing the whole confection. Okay. So a version of your explicit nude would be what? So in my 2016 era, probably when I around the time I got pregnant with Lux, which is probably why I got pregnant with Lux, I mean, it was like full like masturbation. Oh, so this was a video. And videos.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah. Oh, okay. Very interesting. So this was not still image. I mean, no, you know how they had like the live photos? Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. So you did, you did a live photo. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:07:12 If, um, if looks could kill you just killed me with that judgment because you were like, Oh, oh, no, I just got scared for you. Like, yeah, I mean, I thankfully he ended up like it wasn't like a stiller stalker killer. What was it? Um, I don't know stalker killer, date or stalker. Yeah, it ended up not being like a dangerous situation. And also I was already having having sex with that person. So I will say that. I mean, fair enough. I just didn't put my face in it either. I think that's like the golden rule is to not put your face in it. Like if my vagina
Starting point is 01:07:56 or like my tits are in there, my face is not going to be in there. Because if you happen to leak that, no one knows what it looks like other than the people who have been with me. So you can't say like, oh, yes, this is like hers. Yeah. So I am, yeah. Don't. So you're out here sending nudes.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Don't put your face in it. Next foul play. So ladies buckle up for this one. I have gone back and forth about submitting this foul play, but I thought, what the hell, why not? I just ask that you do not use my name and you will see why in a few minutes. So let's set the scene. You were dating the guy of your dreams with everything good comes some bad, right? Well, this is bad because he was in the Marines. He was stationed in South Korea and was coming home after almost a year of us not seeing each other.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I had planned prepping and thought of the moment that we'd reconnected because obviously there was a year of us not seeing each other. I planned prepping and thought of the moment that we reconnected because obviously there was a lot of buildup sexual frustration on both ends. So he gets home and things get hot and heavy fast. I picture this moment many times and saw it as a romantic, as a romantic escapade. But much to my surprise, it was nothing like I imagined. I think Kale will understand when I say tacos. We had Mexican for dinner earlier in the evening and I had recently lost a significant amount of weight and maybe the excitement of seeing my man after so long got to me, but I ate a good bit of dinner not thinking anything of it. I know where this is going.
Starting point is 01:09:20 She should have pants. Anyways, facts the point, foul play, boy was it foul. So we're going at it and I give him a favor and he decides to return. Oh no. Don't say she should in his mouth. He's doing his thing and I'm loving every minute of it. So I owe and just let it all out.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Well, I said all, I mean all. The noise was overbearing. Next thing I know when I looked down at my man and the look on his face said it all I knew I had messed up when your body releases it realized. You know what I mean. I farted so loud and it was so bad that it instantly turned him off. It was so embarrassing because we had both been waiting for this so long. Thankfully, it wasn't a dealbreaker for him. We are now married going on 10 years, three kids later. Anyways, ladies, take my advice and don't load up on tacos before letting your man go down there. I definitely learned my lesson. You both are amazing and I enjoyed listening to the podcast and each individual podcast. Thank you for being true to yourselves and everyone else kitty gang for life. But okay, so she didn't shit. She didn't shit. She farted but like
Starting point is 01:10:30 ma'am. I mean, ma'am. I feel like we've all been in a situation where even the person we love the most has turned us off. If someone farted in my face, okay. If someone farted in my face, I would also like, I would be disgusted. I would be absolutely just disgusted. What is Kristin typing to us? Oh, she said that's happened to me and I had the ick. Yeah. I mean, I also would, but just imagine like this situation like you're with somebody who has been deployed.
Starting point is 01:11:01 They come home. You have not been intimate, like you are doing all the preparing things for this to happen. And the moment presents itself and then you fucking fart on them. What happened? Shit, shit does happen. Um, no, one time this was, I was still in college, Will was not in college, but he got some type of like parasite or something. I don't even know. But he was, I was still in college, Will was not in college, but he got some type of like parasite or something. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:11:28 But he was, remember me telling you that he like shit on me like in the bed? No. Well, this happened like he shit on me in the bed. Okay. I was just like, you're disgusting, but I can't even be upset because you're just so sick and like something crawled up your butthole. So like, I can't even be upset with you. But the man refused to have sex during this parasite time because he was like, I might, I'm sick,
Starting point is 01:11:51 like I might shit. So like for that reason alone, we can't do it. And I respect that so much. But like, can you imagine someone going down on you and then you fart? Like, did you see it coming? Did you feel it coming? And then you didn't stop the person. You didn't like push them away so that they could get out of distance. Well, so there, I used to be like a really, I used to be, I'm not anymore like I just don't get gassy like that. But I used to be a really gassy person and something tells me it was my diet. And that would be my biggest fear is farting during sex. Like that was my big, like it was awful, but it was like, especially when I was like new to like that
Starting point is 01:12:32 person or whatever, it would always freak me out because I would be like, I feel like I had to like hold like, it just like wasn't a good period. You were clenching your butt hole. And then you just have to hope for the best. And it was just, it just sucks so bad. So like, I have to say that that is not a good way to live. And so sometimes there's just no way to avoid it because I just thought like the pressure of them going in was gonna like release the gas.
Starting point is 01:12:55 There was no holding it in. So like you don't have time to like push them off. Like you don't have time to push them off. So I feel bad for people, if there's anyone else in this world that ever experienced that, like I feel bad. Listen, this is the last thing I'm gonna ask you before we go.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Have you ever farted during sex? Yeah, remember I told you the horrible story? I don't remember that. And it was like a secret. Kristen, you remember. Who was this with? Can you tell me? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Kristen said, I can't breathe. Like. I cannot tell you who this was with, but I can tell you it was absolutely mortifying and horrible. Oh, I think I know who it is. Can I type it to you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:44 No, he wouldn't care. It wasn't him? No. No. No, who was it? I'll tell you offline. Okay, fine. Like that's just a bummer.
Starting point is 01:14:01 I just wanna know who you almost shit on. Okay, well, anyway, thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. I hope that you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.
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