Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Summer Hot Takes

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

CC421: On this month's bonus episode... Kail and Lindsie take on some summer hot takes. From overrated beach days, hating matching family swim suits, and watermelon slander, no opinion is safe. They also talk the challenges of summer laundry (and changing outfits five times a day!), the ongoing mystery of lice, and the suspicious nasty waters of water parks. Plus, a listener shares an unfortunate story of a ruined baby announcement that Kail can relate to. Lastly, a quite educational Foul Play involving a period leak and a very confused man.Thank you to our sponsors!Calm: Get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/CONVOSRoBody: Find out if you’re covered for free at Ro.Co/COFFEECONVOS. Rx only.Shady Rays: Go to ShadyRays.com and use code COFFEE for 35% off polarized sunglassesWayfair: Visit Wayfair.com or get the Wayfair mobile app.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you. This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you.

A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Compass podcast. How the fuck are you? Good morning. I'm eating Mexican. I'm feeling pretty good. As Kristen laughs at me every single time I go to the Mexican restaurant and when I'm telling you this Mexican restaurant, they're all the same around here. You know, it's going to be good if they have the combinations.

What does that mean the combinations? It's like one through however many there's probably like 45 combinations that you can get on the menu. Will definitely orders combo 11. And I think that has like a taco like a hard shell taco, a burrito, and what's that thing that has the red sauce on it? Enchilada. Enchilada. Oh, he's getting all the-

Like three different things with rice and beans. Yes, do you eat refried greens or do you stick with your black beans or your pinto beans? Oh, I was hoping that you weren't gonna ask that because I used to be a black bean girly. And then when I realized that Chipotle, which I know you hate, so just whatever. When I realized they had pinto, I started getting pinto beans on there because I love a good pinto bean. I love beans in general. So I'll actually eat any type of bean. But some people don't like refried beans. Because they're like- I love a refried bean too.

I love all the beans. Mostly a burrito though. Even abecheuelas, which is not, it's like a red kidney bean. I don't know that there's really any bean that I don't like. The only thing I don't like is like peas, I think. Oh, see I love peas too.

Like pea family. I can't get behind it, but I have while we're talking about food, I have a gift for you that I'm going to mail tomorrow. Okay, stop. That is so cute. What is that? Where is that? Yeah, little board, you can like either use it to decorate your kitchen or you can cut on it and a spoon for all the cooking that you've not been doing. That's so cute. Where is that from?

From this like little shop that I found on Instagram. Oh, I love it. Did you also get one? Yeah, we got matching ones. Okay. Is that not so cute? That is so cute. Thank you.

Okay. While we're on the topic of food, how much cheese do you own in your house? Every type of shredded cheese there is, is in my fridge. And then American sliced deli cheese also in the fridge because Lux loves a good turkey and cheese sandwich. See we're not sandwich eaters over here at all. If I'm going to do a sandwich, then I'm not. You sound like Creed. Creed will say the most like to him it makes sense. That right there, if I'm going to eat a sandwich, I'm not. That would come out of Creed's mouth.

And I would be like, Biggie, what are you talking about? Okay, I feel like the most universal cheese to have in your refrigerator is like the three cheese Mexican blend because you get like a little bit of everything and you can't fuck it up. I would agree with that. I did make pasta last night and it was the pasta with red and red sauce and Alfredo mixed with ground beef. I love that one. And then I was trying to put mozzarella cheese on top. But the shredded mozzarella that I got was low moisture or something. Oh, and it was not good. And I was like, I should have just put the Mexican blend on top. I love a good Mexican blend. I also

don't know if this is like a thing in the south, but do y'all eat cheese toast up there? Cheese toast? Yeah, you've never had that? No, I'm never like Texas toast. No, like, you get I feel like I'm on the sandlot, you get a cracker. You get you get a gram, then you get a chocolate, then you get a mallow and then you push it together. No, cheese toast is the most jam up breakfast that you could possibly have. It's actually good any time of the day. You just get a piece of bread,

you lay it out flat on a baking dish or what are those things called? Like things that you put dino nuggets on. Like a baking sheet? Baking sheet, yeah. Get a baking sheet. And then it's much better if you get the cheese that's not like already pre-shredded, you know,

like the block, you cut off some like decent sized pieces, you put it in the oven and you wait until that shit starts bubbling and it is so good. Just the bread and the cheese, no butter, no nothing? You don't have to because the cheese already has like grease that's in it. So once it just starts melting, to it's like real news, but in the oven, yeah, in the oven. I've never heard of it. I'll have to try

cheddar, you said? Yeah, well, you can really use any kind, but I prefer check like the cheddar block. And then just like do some slices, put it in the oven and once it starts like bubbling, you know, it's good. Take it out. Okay. I'm going to circle back with feedback once I get my kids back this week. So I'll let you know what they say. Um, actually I'm going to make a video posted on coffee combos, Instagram. Okay. My contribution for the week.

You know what I mean? Yes, I know what you mean. Do you ever feel like when you need one thing done, you need everything done? Yeah, and I'm the type of person that if I need something done, I need it done right now. Like I'm not gonna, like if I want it done, it needs to be done right now. We're not waiting seven days, we're not waiting 12 days. Like get that shit done.

The problem that I've ran into with that is I end up getting people who aren't probably like qualified necessarily to do the job that I'm trying to do. And then they fuck it up worse than what it was before they started. So I've tried to become a little bit more patient but I feel like patience truly is a virtue and I don't have it. Like this morning, I got out of my car in the driveway and I saw that there was all kinds of weeds in my rock beds that's like go around the perimeter of my house and I'm like, No, I

need this done right now. Like I don't even know how it lasted. I don't even know how this occurred. It should have been done already. But why are we those type of people? Um, like I'm so jealous of the people that can just honestly let shit ride and never think about it. Right. It's like you ever pass a house and it's like, Oh my God, I would have to do X, Y, and Z on that. I think people are so happy. The people who, the outside of their house is like literally in shambles falling apart.

And I don't understand, like when you work that hard to own a home or I don't know, like how can you let it look like that? I think it's just like personalities. I think that they do not think of it. Like they don't think to like just keep it kept up with? Like, it really doesn't take a whole lot to keep up with the stuff. No, I think it's, they might have like different types of priorities

than what we have, right? Like our priorities is pulling out of the driveway and seeing that it looks like it's possibly a bush or it's a weed that went way too long and don't know how I didn't notice it. That happened to me yesterday. Some people I think just pull out of their driveway and they never saw it and they're not gonna see it and they don't care because that's not their priority. I guess, I don't understand it. But could you imagine just like us letting shit go

to shambles, I mean, we let ourselves go to shambles, of course, like right now. Our mental health is in shambles? I mean, we let ourselves go to shambles, of course, like right now, our mental health is in shambles. Wait, why? Why are all of your blankets so sinister? I got this one as a Halloween drop from it wasn't a drop. I found this one because I was in my let's decorate for Halloween. I think it was like last year or something. Right. And it's a good size.

So I just keep it in my office so that I can just wrap up in it. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you have another one that looks like somebody was murdered on it. That one came in a PR box for Geneva Rose's book, The Perfect Divorce, that was in the PR box. So I love that one and it's in the washer right now.

It's normally in my office because this is where my books are. So that one's in the wash right now. You know, I have probably about three loads of blankets to wash. Remember when we had that conversation a couple of episodes ago about washing blankets and how often you do it. I started tracking myself and it's literally every Thursday or Friday. My kids went to their dad's on Sunday for Father's Day

and the first thing I did was strip everybody's beds and blankets, and my kids are blanket kids too. So we always have a blanket somewhere. First thing I did, sheets, pillowcases, blankets, stripping, washing, the whole nine. I wonder about people that have nuclear family dynamics. I'm like, when are they able to deep clean their kids rooms out because they're always in it, right? I'm like, that is something that's nice about co-parenting, right? Like Jackson goes to Will's every other Friday and I deep clean the shit out of his room

and I lift up the windows and like hear everything out. That is really nice. And like right now we're doing, I'm doing Valley's room. So like she's getting like a whole makeover in her room and she's not in it. Yeah. Wait, what are we doing to Valley's room? I'll send you a picture.

I'm separating her, I'm separating Vally and Verse so that they're not in the same room anymore. So this is what it'll look like. I'm gonna send you a little bit. It's interesting that you say that because I follow another influencer mom that has twins on Instagram. And she was like showing like her weekend refresh

and her twins are boy girl twins and the rooms basically like split in half. And I thought it was so cute for them to be able to be in the same room. I do not know how you're gonna like separate them and think that it's gonna be fine Well, so verse went to school today without Valley because Valley was going to get her ears pierced What you let him go to school by himself without his sister and he waited by the door until she got there

See how sad that is that breaks my heart Yeah, I was like, I don't know if I should separate them now I just sent you a picture of what the room will look like. But I'm also sure that you don't want them to be so co-dependent on each other that they can't exist without each other either. No, and that's, I'm like, I don't know what's too soon or what's too late. Like I don't want to set them up for failure either because I do love the bond they have. So I don't want to separate them too soon either. I'm absolutely the bond they have. So I don't want to separate them too soon either.

I'm absolutely obsessed with this room. It's so cute. It's like simple. It's so clean and crisp. So I just started, I'll show you the paint came out a little bit darker than it was supposed to, but Pop-Up's about to put in the little, he's measuring the wood planks to match the. I love that.

What are those walls called? I think they're like board and batten walls. Yeah, board and batten. I love a good board and batten. You know what? By the way, Kristen, can I do this project? Kristen's like, none of y'all spend any more money. Okay, do you ever feel like your mind is running a dozen directions at once?

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Kristen had said for me to if I wanted a hot tub that I needed to get it during the Wayfair Memorial Day deal and I was like no like I'll just wait. I'll just wait I'll just wait. Why did I decide to wait? Because what do I want now a fucking hot tub? I got mind you're the Memorial Day deal. I know and she told me I needed to do the same but I didn't listen So now I have to wait till the next six extravaganza. I Feel like this is probably good because I already got I think mine's a seven seater So now you can test it out. You're the guinea pig. Yeah, I'm the guinea pig So I'll test it out and let you know like what I love about it and what I don't before You get that one because I think I got the best one that they offered on the website

Okay, let me know how you like it and how often you use it. Because I did have Lux at a playdate the other day and they have a hot tub. And she said when she had it next to her pool, like in their entertaining area, they used it way more, but then they recently put like, they moved it to a different location and she was like, and oddly enough, even though it's right here, we don't use it anymore. Really? Yeah.

So I was like, I wonder if the placement of the hot tub will make or break whether people use it or not. I don't know about other people with their kids, but I can take Jackson to a nice, like all inclusive place, right? They have all the pools, like the water slides, all the things. He's getting in the hot tub. He's still going to be in the hot tub. Yep. My kids do it too. They

love going to the hot tubs at resorts and stuff. But remember me telling you that back in the day when I thought that there was something like majorly wrong about Jackson, and then it just ended up being molluscum. Yes, I am pretty sure based off of the timeline of trips that we had taken and then him getting the molluscum. The research that I did said that it's very common at public places like a public hot tub or publicly shared towels. That makes sense because I also, one of my kids also got it after Jackson did and I feel

like it was from the sharing of helmets at baseball. Oh I did read about from the I think it's something with the moisture and stuff like that shared items. Have any of your kids ever had lice? No I never had lice. I never had lice and I'm saying this and then he'll come home with lice but Knock on wood Jackson's never had lice, but I will tell you it field day They were switching around their hats and it freaked me the fuck out Oh, no, see I is lice still a thing or has it like been exterminated? Extinct I don't know you know what I'm saying cuz like Because I haven't seen a lice thing where I feel like

us growing up, when we were growing up and we were in elementary school, I feel like there was always that time of year where lice would come back around and it would be like the nurse checking heads and stuff like that. I don't know that they do that anymore. So I thought maybe it was eliminated. I don't feel like they check heads like they probably did back in the 90s because I actually vividly remember them doing that. I want to say whenever I went to kindergarten, we had this whole class, not really a class, but I think the school nurse came into the room and told us all the items that we should

not be sharing with other people. If you're bringing a brush to school and it's in your backpack, you don't let your friend brush your hair with it or those types of things. I feel like those conversations probably don't happen. But lice is very much still a real thing. I know somebody who had a child that got lice three times in one school year. Like, where does it come from? Because I know I basically just have to like fucking bomb everything. Like fleas.

That's and I read that it's actually more common for you to get lice and clean hair Yeah, that's what I was about to say. They prefer the clean hair, but you sue when I was growing up I always thought oh, well if I have clean hair like the lice aren't gonna come. No, they do It's not the dirty. It's not the dirty hair people Okay, so we have a whole list of summer hot takes for this episode. Can't wait. Got to roll through these beach days are overrated. I will go to the beach by myself. I do believe that it takes way more planning to get children to the beach. So I'm going to say yes, beach days are overrated.

I'm going to say no. Okay. I feel like Jackson and I are going to the beach next week and I feel like we'll live on the beach. But you have one 12 year old. Correct. My older kids, like I could bring my four oldest, the babies are going to eat sand, be sticky. It'll be a nightmare to get it out of their diapers

They're not gonna want their diapers changed. So I really think it depends on the child Wait, have you heard about the remedy for sand for a little kid baby powder powder and it works Yeah, no, it works for everybody adults everybody So if anyone is going to the beach a new mom specifically if you're going to the beach with your child, your baby, bring baby powder and it'll help get all the sand off of wherever you need to get it off of. Okay, so are you the type of beach person, like let's say you're taking all of your kids to the beach,

obviously that's gonna be a disaster, you've got seven and babies. Are y'all packing like a lunch from home, like picnic style and spending the entire day there or like what does that look like? We haven't done it in a long time because we have been like we just do other stuff. But yeah, I'm probably bringing a cooler with sandwiches, but we're probably also staying long

enough to possibly also get food on the boardwalk or wherever we're going. Yeah, I'm definitely a pack everything and do not ask to go back to the room. enough to possibly also get food on the boardwalk or wherever we're going. Yeah. I'm definitely a pack everything and do not ask to go back to the room. Yeah. Don't ask me to go back to the room. Don't ask me to go to the store. Maybe we'll get something to eat on the way out.

Like if we're staying all the way until like five o'clock, because the, the beach is about 45 minutes to an hour from here South. So, and I don't, I honestly do not think that a single day is open enough for me this summer to take them for a day trip. Like I don't have one single free day to pack up the kids and say we're going to the beach. Oh my god. Just make a day. I wish I could but I literally I get bitch chat so I can't.

I get bitch chat. No, I I love a good like overcast beach day is actually probably my favorite. Not too hot, like but not cold. I don't I don't want like wind going on. Don't want sand blowing around. When I see parents coming down on the beach and they have the pack and plays and the pop up tent shit going on. I'm like like I feel so sorry for you Because at that point it's just it's for the kids like you're doing it for the kids, but it is it's hard It's a struggle for sure

But to your point yes, I have a 12 year old and he takes a boogie board and you better find something to fuck to do Yeah, no Not bothering me. I'm actually going to read this beach trip that I'm going on. So I know that you'll be super proud of me. Okay. Next hot take is watermelon

is the most boring summer fruit. Lies. It's still good, but I would agree. Then what's better than it? Strawberry, pineapple. No. Fruit salad. But I would agree then what's better than it? strawberry pineapple Fruit salad, I'm not a fruit girly. I really don't love fruit. That's so weird to me what that I don't really love fruit Yeah, I mean do do your babies. They love it. They love it. They love fruit

But I feel like babies are mostly like fruit eaters and then they grow out of that. Yeah, probably correct. Like Jackson used to eat fruit medley or whatever, every morning, like I could just mix up some shit, you know, and he would eat it. Now it's like very specific fruits that he wants. So I'll get like one thing of fruit a week because I know that he's not going to eat the other stuff. So I'm like, what do you want this week? Pineapple, watermelon, whatever. I'm going to disagree with you. I think watermelon is the ultimate summer fruit and watermelon specifically with salt or watermelon with tahini, there's nothing better. I also saw this little chart about watermelons on Facebook the other day on this farmer's page.

Don't know why I'm following a farmer, don't ask. But it was showing the size of watermelons and the shapes of them and what you should be purchasing. And I realized that I was buying watermelon all wrong. I thought the like elongated ones, the bigger ones were supposed to be better, but that's not true. The according to this chart, it's around watermelon that has like some imperfections on the outside. Okay. That makes sense. Cause I feel like the always when I see fruit, like specifically blueberries, strawberries and watermelons. When they're so big,

it's like there's like whatever hormones to make them bigger and then they lose their flavor and their, you know what I mean? Yep. Wait, so were you not a family growing up where you just like hung out at the pool and somebody caught a watermelon and y'all just kind of like sat around

and salted that shit up like a snail? I can't remember a single time that I went to a pool with my mom, my family. Not a single time. So what were you doing in the summertime? Most of the time I was in the house. Just chilling in the house? Yeah, my mom worked. So if I lived with my mom, my mom was working and I'd be in the house. There was no pool, no trampoline.

Just chilling, y'all go outside. my mom was working and I'd be in the house. There was no pool, no trampoline. We'd all go outside. Yeah. And then if I was at my friend's house, we would be inside. Like unless their mom took us somewhere to a pool, nobody had a pool. Okay, this is not on our hot takes list,

but how do we feel about water parks? Because I was talking to my Pilates instructor about this today. There is a water park local here that had an E. coli outbreak like back in the nineties. So I was never allowed to go to it. I don't know if my dad just thought that it was like still living in 2000. I was just never allowed to go. And so that water park came up twice in two different conversations in the last day. And people were like, you're a psychopath.

Like, why have you never been to that water park? It's so fun. There's nothing appealing about that to me. They grossed me out, but my kids, well, Elliot doesn't like public water in general. He doesn't want to go to a public pool. He doesn't want to go to a public water park. Lincoln Lux Creed will go to a public water park. Lincoln Lux Creed will

go to a public water park all day. If I'm going to go, which I have not gone in years and years, I'm going to have water shoes. I'm going to have all the things and I'm like, I can't, I just, it grosses me out. And the thing is that like in the middle of a conversation with someone, it doesn't gross me out, but the whole time I'm there, it grosses me out. Like, public pools in general gross me out. Okay. Have you ever just seen like, I don't know, you're walking at a resort and there's just like standing water somewhere and you just look at it and it just gives you the heebie

jeebies. It's like, what type of disease is like on that? To me, it's not even diseases. It's just like the hair, the sunscreen from someone else's body, people not wiping their butts and getting in the pool, people popping their pimples and being in the pool, scratch like it makes my stomach turn. Also same.

I'm not one to ever put my face in a public pool ever. And like, I think adults be peeing in the water more than the kids do. Do you think so? Because I have seen people at a Mexico resort, let's just say like you're outside, just, you know, turning up drinking a couple mojitos and you see somebody in the pool for hours.

Like they did not get out for hours. It's like, I know you pissed in that. Yes. I've seen adults do it. Okay. But did your mom ever tell you the like myth of if you pee in the pool, it'll turn purple or whatever color? I don't think it was my mom, but I definitely heard that growing up. Like if you pee in the pool, the water is going to turn whatever color around you. I was told that too.

So I never did it because I was terrified like for somebody to see it and be like, Oh, that bitch is gross. Wayfair's got everything you need to level up your outdoor space this summer. They have patio sets, lounge chairs, outdoor bars, hot tubs. We just talked about fire pits, gazebos, and of course string lights. We all need a good string light setup. It's so easy to have a one-stop shop where you can make over your entire space and make it feel like a resort. I absolutely love Wayfair so much. They have outdoor seating for gatherings, outdoor structures

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with Wayfair and enjoy it all summer long. Head to wayfair.com right now to shop the huge outdoor selection that's wayfair.com wayfair every style every home. Oh I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one matching family swimsuits should be banned. I don't that doesn't bother me. No I don't think I don't think matching family swimsuits should be banned What I think should be banned is the like Lily Pulitzer Outfits that are matching for the entire family for a beach photo Like that should be banned like if you're all wearing the exact same pattern on a beach photo, I don't like your photos.

It should be like a curated look, right? So it's like we're sticking with like, colors that kind of like coordinate together. But nothing looks the same. The idea of me trying to get seven children to smile for a family photo shoot on at any point this year makes my stomach turn also. So I never know what to put them in. I need to hire a photographer every day of the week

and just let them get candid shots because trying to coordinate a one hour or two hour photo shoot with seven kids literally sounds like I want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon. Yeah, no, not trying to offend anyone if you like do those super matchy matchy outfits, but I'm just saying I don't like the pictures.

Amusement parks are actually a scam. In what way? Because my kids love amusement parks and I realize that it's privilege for me to be able to get like fast passes. They are absolutely not a scam if you have fast passes in my opinion. I do believe somewhat and you know I'm a big Disney lover. I do believe that if you are spending what you spend to go to Disney, like we all, anybody who's been knows how expensive that it is.

I don't think it's right for people to have to wait in a line for hours to go on one ride that's probably 25 seconds. But I don't think there's a way to handle that. Well, I wish that they would just limit the amount of people that could go into the park or figure out a different way. Oh, like a sold out situation. Yeah. But I think they would lose money that way. Yeah. It would go one of two ways. They would lose money because the park is sold out for X amount of time or two. It would create a frenzy where people are buying and booking, you know, regularly. So like, when you say only letting people, a certain number of people in the park, would

they have to leave the park by a certain time? Oh, I've thought about this thoroughly before. Because why haven't they fixed it? Literally pisses me off. I feel like it should probably be a situation to where when you buy a pass, it's for like X amount of hours and then your card no longer scans. So then you have to work, right? Because that's not fair for people to spend what I know people go and spend at Disney

and wait for hours in a line. Okay. And then here's my next thing. The prices for all of this stuff, like the souvenirs, the gifts, the mugs, the toys, the prices on them because they know people will pay for them. And I will tell you this highway robbery, the quality of the toys that are being bought inside of those parks is so shitty. And when you have a four year old, when I took Creed to Disney in October, he wanted all the stuff.

So like, obviously his first time in Disney, I was like buying the toys for him. The quality of those toys was literally dollar store toys. And it pissed me off so bad because the prices on them were insane. Oh, I know. So we've been to Disney quite a few times with Jackson and I set a rule that you can get one thing each Disney day. So and you can't get it until our last stop

before we leave the park because number one, I'm not carrying it around. Number two, I'm going to give you enough time if you want to go like in and out of stores, you can have all day to think about like what the thing is that you're going to get. Because the shit is so expensive and it's absolute trash. I don't get it. Like, is it because they know that people are going to pay for it? So they just do it? They can get away with it or?

Yeah, because look at us. We're two people that have been there and done it and they got away with it. Yeah, it just sucks though. Like the people that are saving for years and years and years to go and they can't even get quality items for like toys and stuff. I hate it. Okay, next question. High-waisted bikinis are diapers for adults. That's a fucking lie. No, I love high-waisted bikinis and I don't think they're diapers. I don't even know why someone would say that. I mean, I have seen some high-ed bikinis that do kind of look like the pins. I have seen that. But I don't think that all high

waisted bikinis are like that. And by the way, who's not wearing high waisted at this point of our lives? Yeah, we're old. We all have fucking kids like I want full coverage. Okay. We all have fucking kids like I want full coverage. Okay now Are you the type that you're gonna wear the same type of bathing suit? No matter where you go or you're gonna change it up dependent on the location No, I typically only wear one type of bathing suit. So I'm not gonna I don't wear thong bikinis I don't want to I don't wear cheeky bikini bottoms So I'm not gonna like do certain things when I don't have the kids andini bottoms, so I'm not gonna like do certain things when I don't have the kids,

and then certain things when I have the kids. It's pretty much for me, the same type of bathing suit across the board. Oh no, mine is not. I have very non-mom friendly bathing suits, and then mom friendly. I love that for you. You know, sometimes it might be like a cheeky one piece that I might pull out to be a mom.

But then sometimes it might be a high-waisted situation. Other times I go to Mexico with Mexico Man and have everything hanging out. Is that Mexico Man? Yeah, no, I get that and I respect it. How do we feel about women who don't have kids that wear thong bikinis and cheeky bikinis around people's kids? Okay. So I actually know someone that this happened to. And I know the man that was involved in the situation was like, that's not appropriate to wear around my daughter.

Okay. was like that's not appropriate to wear around my daughter. Okay. I personally feel like if you are at an adults only resort, I feel like you should wear whatever the fuck you want to wear. Yeah. I don't want to have to explain to my son at a pool that is predominantly children, why she's walking around with a string up her ass.

It's hard because obviously people that don't have kids are not going to see it that way. And so they should be able to do whatever they want. However, on the flip side of that, if you are an adult that is going somewhere where there are a lot of children, why would you? What is going through your head that you feel like it's a good idea or like you just don't care? I think a lot of people honestly don't think about it. I personally don't give a fuck like I truly do not care what people like as long as you're not naked around my kids but I can understand why parents

would be upset if a girl is wearing like a thong bikini around their children. And I know people might argue and say, oh, well, if you don't want your child to see it, then don't take them to a public place. I feel like both people are valid, right? Yeah, I think all of the feelings are valid. For sure.

Okay, next question. Summer camps are just expensive babysitting. Um, I could see how this could be true in certain instances, but I think there are other summer camps that are like actually really good for the kids. But realistically speaking, working parents don't have a choice, but to get their kids in summer camp, because for working parents, you're working through the summer. The summer is just like, the days in the summer are just another day

in the year. For the kids, they're out of school, but they need childcare. So summer camps might be expensive babysitting. I don't necessarily believe that it's babysitting, but to your point, it depends on what camp it is, right? Because I'm thinking the kind of camps that I send Jackson to with being a work from home mom, it's like a sports camp specifically for training for a specific sport. I'm wondering if this question is more like the camp is ran out of the daycare that the children normally go to, so essentially it's babysitting. Yeah, 1000%. But like, for the month of June, I put the twins in a summer camp so that they could

get socialized. And it's from eight to 12. Lux and Creed are going to farm camp for five days. That's like for the experience. They're going to be very hands on. We went last year. It was very hands on with like all the farm animals and activities. So I do think that one is more of an experience. Can't speak for all summer camps, but probably a good combination. I think summer camps are good for a lot of reasons. But also now that you're talking out loud about this, I do see how somebody would say that's babysitting. But they don't, what is the alternative?

There's not one. There isn't one. Because if you have two working parents or you're in a single parent household and they work, you know, a regular nine to five or nine to six or eight to four, whatever it is, where are you sending your kids for child care? So all of it is babysitting. where are you sending your kids for childcare? So all of it is babysitting. I agree. I'm a big advocate for summer camp, specifically the ages of the twins,

cause they'll start school next year, right? The twins will start play care, like the socialization in the fall, but Creed's going to kindergarten. But for the twins, I feel like, because they've just had each other to play with and those situations, you're doing it for more than just the childcare aspect.

Yes. Yes. Behind why you're doing it. Well, I think the routine kids love routine so much. And so it starts to get them into routine, the socialization aspect of it, because I'll be honest with you all,, I think the twins specifically had it worse than Creed as a COVID baby. Really?

Yeah. I mean, they were born in the winter. So from October to May, I wasn't really taking them out of the house. And then we can't get everybody in one car. So it would always just be easier for someone to stay back with the twins than to pack up the twins and take two full cars to wherever we were going. The twins have never been to a restaurant. They're 18 months old.

Wait, we're in June. The twins have never been to a restaurant ever in their whole lives. They're 18 months old. They've never been to a restaurant ever in their whole lives. They're 18 months old. They've never been to a restaurant. And Rio has been to one restaurant one time. In his whole life. In his whole life. I remember way back when you said, I'm just not taking my kids to restaurants for a very,

very long time. No, because they make a mess. I'm pulling my hair out. They're pulling their hair. It's not an enjoyable experience. And then on the flip side of it, I hear people say, well, if you get them used to it, they won't know any different. And I understand that argument too.

I mean, I did it with Isaac and Lincoln and Lux and even Creed, but I just don't, it doesn't sound like an enjoyable experience for me, for them or for the waitress or waiter. It doesn't feel like an enjoyable experience for any of them. So if I take any kids to a restaurant, it's the older four. Do you feel like your kids eat better at a restaurant or at home? Ooh.

My answer is at home. Jackson will eat every bite off of his plate at home. You take that child into a restaurant. It's just pointless. Interesting. I think my older kids are fine either way, but I'm thinking of like Creed, his age. He probably eat better in a restaurant. You think? Yeah. Because here he can get away with saying he's not hungry and then asking for a snack 20

minutes later. So I don't know. We're like at a restaurant, he knows it's going to get taken away if he doesn't finish it because we have to leave. I could see that argument too. Jackson is a very specific and picky eater. So I just buy the things at home that I know he's going to eat well. And that's what I cook for him every single night, just like on a rotation. Every bite at home, take him to a restaurant and he will come up with some reason as to why he cannot eat what he ordered. Like the breading on the chicken tastes a little bit spicy. Okay. Or the texture of whatever the side was,

was just not good for his stomach. I understand. He knows what he wants and that's what he wants. So it's like, if I've got to go home and make something anyway, because you're not eating what you've been given, then I might as well just stay the fuck at home. You're like, why am I even wasting time and money? Like I'm just staying home. It's a waste. Do you guys love your shades but find them getting caught in your hair super frustrating?

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Okay, soft serve is far superior to hand scooped. No. I don't agree with that. I do like. I like custard. But I do not like soft serve. I am a hand scooped girly. Me too.

What is your favorite flavor? Like historic favorite flavor that you could eat every single time that you got hand scooped ice cream. Probably cookie dough. You know, that used to be back in the 90s, like a big hit for me. Now mine is old fashioned butter pecan. I don't think I've ever had that.

Because pecan is not popular up here. What do you mean? Like that is not a staple up here. I'm not saying so when everyone is listening to this episode, I'm not saying every single fucking person in the north doesn't eat pecan pecan. Okay, that's not what I'm saying. But I would go out on a limb and say a lot of people in the north do not do the butter be pe, pecan pie, pecan ice cream. Like it's just not a thing. The way it is a thing in the south. It's just so good. Like there's something about it that just hits all of the right feelings.

It doesn't matter if you're depressed. It works. Doesn't matter if you're sad. It works. If you need a dopamine hit, you eat butter pecan hard, hand scooped ice cream. So I say pecan, you say? Pecan. How do you say it? Pecan. Pecan. But the way it's spelled, I feel like it's pecan.

Pecan, pecan, pecan. Do you feel like more northerners say it pecan or is that like a deep south thing? I could ask my sister. I feel like a lot of people in Alabama say pecan or is that like a deep south thing? I could ask my sister. I feel like a lot of people in Alabama say pecan. I'm gonna ask a couple people and I'll circle back by the end of the episode. Okay next question. Collecting seashells is hoarding with extra work? Okay so remember back like in my Pinterest mom days?

Yeah, like I was a big Pinterest er, but I didn't know what the fuck I was doing also. So I really wanted this was also back like in my pottery barn days where everything was like that light blue and very coastal. We would go to all these vacations and it was like beach vacations, right? To various different locations. Didn't matter if it was Mexico, someplace in Florida.

And I would gather like three or four seashells from each place and had like a little jar in my office for these collections. Don't ask me why the fuck I did that because I don't even know where it's at. Like probably in a landfill somewhere. I absolutely think it's fucking hoarding. Collecting seashells is hoarding. I don't know. I do feel like it could be cute if you like label where they're from. It's like a cute little collection. Like some people like to collect things. So I don't know. I feel like it's a

cute little form of collection is some form of hoarding, right? Like I'm a big blanket collector. Like I love blankets. I have unlimited amount of blankets at my house. That is a hoarding tendency. I don't know if a collection is hoarding. I also just got a voice note. I don't know if a collection is hoarding. I also just got a voice note. Oh, you fr...

It's pecan, bitch. Don't, don't, don't try to be sending me no shit talking about some, bitch, it's pecan. Don't try to be cute. So. He literally texted and said, don't piss me off. It's pecan. It's pecan, don't try to be cute, bitch. Okay, next question. Summer

laundry is actually the worst. And I'm going to agree with this because just the like smell of outside on clothes. Oh, see, the outside smell. It's not that for me. It's we talked about the socks last time. It's a bigger problem in the summertime because they're outside. But for me, I have water tables out there for the babies. And we go outside 12 times a day and usually we're resetting by 10am going by going outside. I'm like, Oh, it's just the water table. It comes up to their waist. Like they're not going to get wet. I'm not going to put their bathing suits on. What the fuck was I thinking? I had fucking five kids before the twins and I didn't think to put their goddamn bathing suits on and I justified it by thinking it's at their waist like it'll be fine.

No, it's not fine. They were soaking wet. I had to take that off, put dry clothes on, but then it's like, are we going to go outside again or not? So do I put their bathing suit on? And then at that point, if I put on dry clothes and we go back outside and they're back at the water tables, I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? You have to think if you're, if you have children and they are home in the summertime and not on like a regular school or let's say camps now taking place of the school schedule, I would venture to say that you probably have double the amount of laundry than what you do during the regular school year because you've got to consider pajamas.

You're going to have Monday through Friday, and then you're going to have their one school outfit that they're coming home in, and then they're going to take a shower, start it all over. In the summertime, they go out and do fuck shit, and you end up with socks like my son's socks and wonder where they have been rogue. Yep. That sounds about right. And I had to, I don't know if I told you guys this, I don't know if I told you on the podcast or anything, but I had to put a slide chain lock on Creed's

closet because he loves to change his clothes five times a day. So I'll go up there at the end of the day and he's got five virtually clean outfits all over the room. And he just throws them, takes them off, throws them, takes them off, throw them. So I started saying, you are picking out one outfit in the morning and I lock the closet and then he cannot get back in until nighttime. See I love that idea. Jackson went through that phase with switching out jerseys all the time, because you know, he's in the NBA and he's up there shooting on that mini hoop.

So he's got to change, depending on who he is that day, he's got to change the jersey out, right? Main character. Absolutely the fuck not, because now you have done this and I don't know what is clean or what is dirty. And so now I have to fucking wash it all. Yep, I don't know what's clean and dirty so now I gotta figure it out.

I'm not gonna figure it out. I'm just throwing in the laundry. 1000%. I cannot fucking stand it. If I see him walk down my stairs one more time this summer, he walked up it in one jersey and he walked back down in another jersey. No, no, I cannot do it.

I also cannot stand when they put clothes on the floor and you know they've changed from something clean and then put that on and now the something that was clean, you don't know if it's clean anymore. So now all that has to be washed also. Creed started putting his not dirty clothes that he changed 12 times because if he put it on and then he goes outside for 20 minutes, I'm not washing that if I don't have to, but he started putting them in Lux's laundry basket so that I don't catch what he's doing. Also, my sister just sent a voice note. Oh, she didn't. She said, I'm on a flight.

Let me see if you'll be able to hear it. I bet she says pecan too. Um, but yeah, absolutely not with the laundry. Have you ever heard Kristen say pecan or pecan? No. Oh, nope. You're fucking wrong. Absolutely not. Okay. No one actually likes daylight savings time. Also, cancel fucking daylight savings because it, it really messes up my train of thought. This is my train of thought. I never know what's going on. Like there's one Sunday that's fucked up where you feel like you didn't sleep at all. I also hate mountain time. Like I hate that.

It doesn't make sense to me why we can't just keep times the same. Like why do we have to change it? I don't necessarily think that other countries do daylight savings. But also I just don't like time zones. Oh, here goes Sterling. A con.

Okay, we're two for two. I feel like we're just the winners. For example, same-hucking states don't do daylight savings time. I think, isn't that like Arizona? Do other states do daylight savings? No, not all states observe daylight savings time. Specifically, Hawaii and Arizona, except for the Navajo Nation, do not observe DST. Additionally, several U.S. territories also do not do daylight savings time, including American Samoa, Guam, and Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin

Islands. So, why do we do it? Mariano Islands, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands. So why do we do it? Just because it makes us feel better about the sun being out longer or less time. Like for me, it fucks me up way more. It fucks my kids sleep up. It fucks everything up.

So if we could just kindly throw that away, I think that would, everybody would be fine. Do you like to fall back or spring forward? I don't fucking know. It fucks me up both times. I fall back both times. I just fall back all 365 days a year. I just wish that there were no time zones either right like Why does California have to be three hours behind us and then you've got mountain time that I don't even understand

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Okay. And on that note, we have a listener topic that I want to be able to get to and then we're going to have Val play. This person says, Hey, kitties, I need advice. So I found out about two weeks ago, my husband and I are expecting our first baby. We are so over the moon. My first appointment isn't for another two weeks and I wanted to wait, tell people until then. He wanted to tell his parents, so we did.

I wasn't on board, but he was excited and I did not wanna take that away from him. We called them and told them last week as they live out of state, we were going to surprise my parents on Father's Day with a gift as they live in the state. Well, my mother-in-law texted my mom today and told her. My mom called me and left a voicemail and I

am beyond upset and angry. I texted my mother in law good job for ruining a surprise for my parents. Thank you for that. And my mom texted her to she responded to my mom calling her white trash and crazy for being upset. Oh yeah, she called me a bitch. And it's my problem that I didn't tell her sooner. My husband is livid. And we both blocked her. I just don't know how to feel. I feel problem that I didn't tell her sooner. My husband is livid and we both blocked her. I just don't know how to feel. I feel horrible.

I couldn't tell my parents as this is their first grandchild and that's how they found out. What would you guys do in this situation because I'm dumbfounded and hurt at this point? See, that's a sticky situation. I'm trying to think back what I did. Oh yeah, I told my dad in Houston's restaurant about myself. He was the first person to know that I was pregnant.

And I feel like it's okay to like tell people at different times, but I also think that's very invasive if you're the pregnant person and then somebody just goes out of their way to like out your information. Like that was not that person's place to do that. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely hurtful, especially, you know, I've had people out all my pregnancies almost and it's hurtful because you don't

know what their mental health is like. You don't know what they're going through. You don't know if there could be something wrong with the pregnancy or if they lost the pregnancy. I mean, it's just there's so many different factors that play into why you shouldn't do that. And I get like the grandparents being excited or whatever. But I wonder if they and not saying it's on you guys, because I don't that's not what I'm saying. But she said we called them and told them last week as they live out of state, we were going to surprise my parents on Father's Day. So when you called them to tell them last

the week prior, did you also say like, please don't tell anyone? Because maybe they thought that it was like, they thought it was everyone knew. I could see that happening. Because like, obviously that was like a mistake. It wasn't meant to be. Really? Point that like bitches getting thrown around and white trash. That's a little much for me. So now I'm fucking pissed. Yeah, white trash and crazy for being upset.

No, I would be upset too if I didn't get to give somebody a gift to announce my pregnancy. Like I definitely think that's fucked up. Also for a first grandchild too. Like it's not like you're five grandkids in. True. Like this is like a big monumental moment for these people's lives. Yeah. Well, now you know who to never go for the first round of like, it sucks, but like, I wouldn't even tell them anything ever again. If this is how you're handling it,

there is no second chance as far as that goes. If I got pregnant, I wouldn't tell anybody for a really long time. If I got pregnant or married I would not tell anyone until, well I tried to do the pregnancy a secret thing for a long time for my own peace of mind and it got ruined. So how long do you think that I could get away with not telling people? I honestly think you could pull off the whole thing. I think you could pull a Kylie Jenner. I was tiny when I was pregnant with Jackson. So I feel like I probably like, it probably wouldn't be that visible. But I'm saying how long do you think that I personally

could actually last without like telling you or Kristen? I think Kristen would know, but I think you could hold out telling me. You think I could? Yeah. I feel like you would keep it a secret for like six months. I feel like completely exact opposite. I feel like I would go and take a pregnancy test and send you a picture from the bathroom.

Is that your plan? Well, I'm not going to tell you if it is. What if you got married? If you got married, would you tell anyone? You would be at it. So you'd have a big, you wouldn't elope? No, I would not elope again um, I would absolutely Just tell the people that would be involved and then outside of that

I wouldn't until it was like all said and done love. I love that idea I think that's so cute and I would not do a huge wedding. I think I would maybe Do like a ceremony and then like very small and intimate and then have more people at like just a party. Yeah, that's what Becky did with her wife. Kristin said, I feel like I would know like I've always known when someone's pregnant. Yeah, I burp a lot when I'm pregnant. So no, it's always like, I don't know why I'm so bloated. I don't know why this coffee tastes

like that. It makes me feel sick. It makes me feel I've had a weird coffee aversion like I ever since I had, I think Rio, I just, I don't really drink coffee the way that I used to. I still drink it but like not like I used to also energy drinks have replaced my love of coffee. Kristin said that you say I can only eat one bite and I'm full. Facts. That's true. That is so true. Okay. On that note, we have foul play. Okay. Hi, Caitlin Lindsay. I've been a listener since the end of 2022 and love the podcast. I

feel like I have a perfect foul play to submit. Back in 2019, I was seeing this guy who my friend set me up with and one night I went back to his apartment. I was on my period and was wearing a pad along with black Lululemon yoga pants. We spent the night together watching TV and then proceeded to make out for hours. At one point he wanted a back massage and he laid down on his stomach on the bed and I got on top of his butt and straddled him to rub his shoulders. He was wearing khaki pants. I know where this is going. Oh no. She oh, I went home and all was well until the next morning our mutual friend who set me up with him sent me screenshots of their text combo. He had sent her a picture of his pants and there was a giant bloodstain

like huge on his khaki pants. Right when I, right where I had sat to give him a massage, my period sadly soaked through my pad and my black lululemon pants, and I thought I was safe. He was telling my friend, he thought he sat in tomato sauce or something and said, this is why we can't have nice things. Why had he texted her a picture of the tomato sauce, aka bloody pants? I have no idea.

But essentially I bled on this man's pants and there was a giant stain, but he never put two and two together. I eventually confessed that it was me and was really embarrassed at the time. And later on when he ended things, he added to a list of reasons why we couldn't be compatible. Apparently I was too apologetic about the stain incident

and he wanted me to be more confident about it. What? Anyways, I hope you both enjoy this. he wanted me to be more confident about it. What? Anyways, I hope you both enjoy this. I would love to hear it on the podcast. Peace, love and kitty gang. I feel so bad for this girl because that is something that would absolutely happen to me.

I just feel like he definitely knew it was not tomato sauce. No, he wanted the girl to tell him and not, he didn't want to be the one to say it was that is so embarrassing. That sucks. Because he knew that he didn't eat like spaghetti or something. So we know that he's full of shit. Well, we don't like him because what you don't need to make any girl feel worse than she already life is hard enough.

Okay. I, I've never heard of anybody wearing a pad with leggings. Do you do that? I don't wear pads because I feel like you can, I feel like you'd be able to see it. And also for some reason, the sides of the pads always mush in. So I would leak on the side of them,

not necessarily through the pad, but I would leak on the side of them, not necessarily through the pad, but I would leak like on the side of it. So I just wear tampons and diapers. Do you feel like there's more risk of leaking from a pad than a tampon? No, I mean, no, I think it's probably the same because I leak through my tampons so bad that I, I don't know. It's probably the same. I think because even if you put the one, you use a pad with the wings, the wings don't help if it's smushed together like my light, my thighs touch when I'm sitting down. So it's like the middle of the, if this is the pad, the sides are squishing in. So when I'm bleeding, I'm going

to leak through the sides. But if you have a tampon, they're, they don't, I don't know if anyone else has this problem with tampons. I've tried Playtex, I've tried a Tampax Pearl, I've tried all of them. They do not absorb and like open up inside me. Then what do they do? They literally hardly expand at all. So like you put the tampon in, I wish I had one in here and you know how it's like a cylinder, like a really skinny cylinder? Mine don't open a whole lot. So like they're absorbing-

So you're putting it in? No, it can't be like, I want to go get a tampon to like, like say you were to, let me do this experiment real quick. Okay. Be right back. Okay. Okay. Let's see this experiment.

Not me coming in with a fricking tampon and a cup of water. Okay, cup of water, tampon. This is a super plus. Okay, it goes in like this. Yes. If you dip this in water, it expands like this. Yes. When I put this, when I pull my tampon out of my body, it is not like this. It's still like

a altogether I pull the tampon out of my body. It is probably like this. Maybe if that it's like all squished up. It does not expand ever. I have never in my entire life had a tampon pull out and look like any version or variation of this. Mine always looks like that. When you pull it out, it looks like this. I'm wondering if it's still in a cube. Like it doesn't even come out like this. Like it's still in the cylinder situation. But I'm wondering, okay, number one, I did not know for the longest period of time that, you know how you have like the lights, the regulars, the super super plus. I thought that was vagina sizes. No, it's the flow of the blood.

Like how much are you bleeding? I didn't know that. I think I just buy buy light and regulars. No. They're how much you're bleeding. I didn't know that. Do you think when you take yours out, is it full? It's full, but it's not expanded in any way. So that's why I feel like it's not absorbing as much blood. That's why it's causing me to leak because it's not expanding that way. So like, this is gross and I'm not going to do it. But like when

I pull a bloody tampon out, if I was to pull it apart like that, the middle would probably not have blood or it just doesn't like expand enough. So I'm changing my tampon way more than I should. Do you think that you should maybe do like a lighter flow one, like more regularly? Does that make sense? Like changing it more regularly but a smaller tampon? Yeah, I could try that. I think you should probably try that.

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