Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Summer Plans and Prank Calls
Episode Date: June 9, 2022Yes, the cat is out of the bag! Keeping Hot Boyfriend's identity a secret was fun while it lasted but kitty gang's FBI skills are A1! Kail shares how she feels in this new relationship. Kail giv...es an update about her mental health, Kristen SWEARS she's a good driver, and we do prank calls on some unfortunate souls!.. and Kail left a tampon in for HOW LONG?!? Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments.com: Visit Apartments.com , a place to find a place Chime: Get started at chime.com/convos Embark: Go to EmbarkVet.com to get free shipping and save $40 with promo code COFFEECONVOS Green Chef: Visit GreenChef.com/convos130 and use code convos130 to get $130 off plus free shipping Peloton: Visit onepeloton.com to learn more! Stitch Fix: Sign up today at StitchFix.com/CONVOS to get $20 off your first purchase
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This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale
That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship
Family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay
Hey everyone
Oh, are we starting I
Didn't want us to continue the conversation and it was like a one content, you know what I mean
Yeah, wow Kale. You brought the energy. I was not I I wasn't actually I
Wasn't trying to because I just don't I don't feel like being here today, but here I am
Well, I appreciate you
Gracing me and everybody in the kitty gang with your presence. I appreciate you gracing me with your presence
I um, I do have a dog in the office with me and
So if y'all hear him breathing, we were just outside and it's so ungodly hot outside
So if you hear him breathing at any point, he's fine. I
Mean if you hear heavy breathing on my end, it's probably because I walked up a flight of steps. Oh
So actually I literally do whatever I can to not go upstairs like ever
When I when my kids are like mom, can can you come upstairs? I'm like literally no like I I
Put my bedroom on the first floor for a reason so I'm gonna need you to figure it out
it's so funny to me because
For however long even friends now
You've always had houses with steps and I would make fun of you because you'd be like, oh, I forgot it downstairs
I'm not going downstairs, and I'm like you would literally ask me for stuff
And I'd be like when I whenever I go downstairs like I'll get you whatever and Kristen would be so annoyed
She'd be like just fucking go get it
But now that she has a home with stairs. She fully understands. I fully understand. It's like once I'm up
I'm up and once I'm down. I'm down and please don't ask me to go in between levels because
No
Well, and so Lincoln started Lincoln is my early riser. He when I say he is Javi's mini like through and through
Lincoln will fall asleep at the drop of the hat and also wake up at the drop of the hat and also just
He wakes up every day at 6 a.m. Without an alarm
So whenever the baby wakes up
He just goes and gets creed on because like creed and Lincoln's relationship is so it's seriously the cutest thing I've ever seen
So Lincoln brings creed to me. I don't even have to get up to get
Oh, see so I'm like, okay. Can you just make sure cuz I'll
Natalie or me will set out his outfit for the next day on the like on the floor in his room
So like we whatever so if Lincoln brings him down, he'll bring the clothes down, too
So I'm and nobody ever asked him to do this. He just started doing it. I was like
Now if you don't do it, I'm gonna have to go up the stairs and it's like well, what the fuck am I supposed to do?
I just um, yeah, I fully understand now and Cory makes fun of me, but he does the same thing
I'll be like, hey, babe came to me a favor and he's like if you're gonna ask me to go upstairs
The answer is no or if we're upstairs
I'll be like if you're gonna ask me to go downstairs the answer is no and I'm like, all right, listen
I understand. I understand. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I gotta get my steps in somehow, but
Before we keep going. I just wanted to say
Um, we are our thoughts are with Lindsay. We're hoping she will be back next week. We are not sure
She did put out a statement on her Instagram story that may or may not be gone by the time the episode releases tomorrow
but it was also read on
Today's a new episode of the southern tea if you want to see that and we're just sending our well wishes
To Lindsay. Sorry for everyone. That's tired of hearing from me
But hopefully she'll be back to rescue everybody soon. Um, I
She texted us yesterday and I just I I hate that I don't know what she's going through because I I've never been through it
And so I hate that I don't know what to say
Yeah, I think the only thing that we you know can say is I'm sorry and we're here for you
I think a lot of people just think you have to have word bomb it and be able to say stuff in every situation, but like
There's so many situations that happen in life that no matter what we say. It's not going to fix it
So it's just like that just one-liners. I feel like are good like they are good
Well, I just texted her and I told her I was thinking of her. I hope that
I don't know. Yeah, it's a lot. I can't imagine
but she will be back to the kitty gang soon and
Kale, let's have a little mental health check. What's going on?
Well, I am trying to get in with a new doctor for
A med switch because I think Zoloft is not it for me
I'm not saying that it won't work for you
But I definitely want to just get on the med. I need like an energy situation not like a mellowing
situation
And I think that Zoloft is more of like mellow you out versus
I need something that's gonna
Get me to want to get out of bed and do the things I need to do
I actually feel okay today. I feel like pretty decent
I didn't go into the office because they were supposed to be fixing the AC
I don't know if they did or not, but it's so hot
And so I just didn't want to take the risk of like driving over there and then it not being
Like fixed or whatever. So
Um, but other than that, I mean
I we're just taking it day by day. I
I feel
I feel okay. Um, this is the first week that the kids are all with their dads for the first week of summer. So
Um, Lux and creed are with Chris and we do have 5050 this summer. And so
I'm actually taking it better than I anticipated
But I would be lying if I said that I
Didn't miss my kids. Like I definitely
It's weird because when they would go to Chris's for
The weekend, I was like
Literally would get them they would go on Thursday or Friday and I would get them back Sunday morning at football
And I didn't have
Like even though it was two nights
It felt like I didn't get anything done
And so now it's like week on Monday
And so now it's like week on week off, but it's like, okay. Now I'm I've done everything I needed to do and now
I want my kids back
So it's so weird like motherhood is so fucking weird. Yeah, you're like, I love you so much. Please get away from me
But please come back. Yeah, it's like
Literally
Um, I'm hoping that this summer. I hope it goes well. Um
I think it's gonna be okay. I think we're gonna be fine and um
I don't know. I'm ready to also just like get my meds
Corrected and then
Be coming out on top and be the best mom I can be by, you know, the end of the summer
Hopefully and you know into the next school year
Um, somebody actually asked when I posted that I was covering for Lindsay this week
About like asking what people wanted to hear about they said
Does kail ever feel like a bad mom when or if she can't give her full self to her kids due to depression
I feel like that is where I struggle the most. Um
I would you guys know like I've talked about it so many times like I would just would never miss anything. Um
Always want to get up and go out the door with my kids and stuff
I still do but it's a lot harder for me to get to make sure that I'm like I'm basically fighting
Myself to get going and get out the door and get to all their stuff. I still go
It's just a lot harder. Um
And I think um
I've been talking to my kids a lot about it more lately than ever because I just want them to understand that
like I love them and um
Just like luxing. I don't know. It's so hard. I can't describe it
But like just like not wanting to do simple things, you know, what I mean?
And knowing that I have to do it and I don't want my kids to suffer because I'm suffering and
I I have always maintained that
Motherhood is what I was meant for and so now that I feel like I'm struggling there
It feels like I don't have a purpose
Right like you're taking it really hard. Yeah. Yeah
So, um,
That's why I just I really want to take these next couple weeks. I was I talked to my therapist yesterday and
She was like best case scenario. I'll start new meds in two weeks, but everyone's always booked out
Um, and then but I don't think the zoloft is working for me
Anyway, um, so I I think because I told chris and I called chris and crying yesterday. I'm like, I don't
if this
If this is how it feels to be on meds where I'm still like essentially fighting for my life like
Fighting to do everyday shit and there I don't I I can't do this like I can't carry on like this
So my therapist was like, you know best case scenario two to three weeks, you know, hopefully we'll be on some new meds by time
I taper off. Luckily I'm only on a hundred milligrams of zoloft
So it wouldn't be too crazy to taper off of it like go back down to 50 and then come off and start something new
Um, but I think my motherhood is where I struggle the most because especially because I don't
Like for football on sunday, we were I was gone from
9 30 in the morning until 6 o'clock at night just for football alone
But I didn't wear makeup and I'm not I'm not getting dressed like I'm just wearing literally
Whatever I can find and that sucks. I don't like that feeling of like I'm not putting myself together and like
Truly showing up a hundred percent. It's like I'm barely showing up
And I think you're taking that
It just it's kind of like a it's like a it's like a circle, right?
Like you feel this way because of what you're going through in your depression
So then it's exacerbating it but because you're not doing the things that make you feel good typically
Then you're upset about your appearance. You're upset about not showing up your full self in motherhood
And then it's probably exacerbating the depression and it's probably feeding into each other
It's so crazy yesterday. Um, actually about to unplug my computer. Hold on. Hold on you guys. Um
yesterday I
recorded um for my friend lemours podcast and
I did therapy and natalie stopped by for a little bit. I don't have any of my kids
But she stopped by and I was like, I just have to take a nap like I have to take a nap which is crazy because
The sleeping thing is very much a symptom of depression, but it's also a side effect of zoloft
So I can't really tell if I'm needing to nap because of the zoloft or if I'm needing to nap because of the depression
But either way, I'm like, I don't feel better when I wake up. And so I ended up
Natalie left. I ended up sleeping for four hours. I woke up at like it was like almost six o'clock
PM and I was like one this isn't fucking normal and two I'm like
I woke up. I ate dinner and watched a show at like 7 30. I didn't even wait. No, was that the other day?
No, I'm mixing my days up. So yesterday wake up and then I'll like Elijah. Can I say his name now?
I mean, I would at this point. Okay.
It's now hot boyfriend. Who's name is Elijah?
At this point everyone has figured it out. Anyway, um, so he came home and
I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
And
He I had to like I needed to make sure. Okay. So hold on. Let me backtrack because I'm starting to sound like just like gibberish
I have now anxiety. So yes
I have anxiety about my parenting now, but I also have anxiety about Elijah because
In previous relationships, I'm not going to specify who but I used to walk on eggshells and make sure I never did things to piss him off
so
Even though Elijah has never ever ever ever ever said anything to me about like the dishes in the sink or the house being a
mess one, it's my fucking house and two
I'm working during the day and then if I choose to take a nap when I'm done with my day and clean my house or whatever
Like that should not be a problem
But I've been checking his location on his way home to so I can make sure that everything is tidied
Everything is in the dishwasher everything, but he's never
Said anything to me like he's never complained about it. We've never thought about it
And so then I feel like my relationship is like I'm like worried about my relationship because of my depression
Right. I mean you're doing the classic thing that kids do when mom and dad are about to be home like running around doing the five-minute clean
Um, pretty sure that like we do this for company too. Like let's make it look like no one lives here
Really fast really fucking fast
Um, so that's super normal, but I get what you're saying and I I just don't know at what point is anxiety anxiety
Or at what point does it edge into like paranoia
Well, so my therapist I told my therapist this and she was like has he ever said anything to you?
And I was like no and she said well, you just have a talk with him. Let him know how you're feeling and then
um, you know when he when you know that he's on his way home and there's dishes in the sink
She said leave them there
She said because part of it is my like PTSD from a prior relationship
And part of it is you know like when I went to football all day and Elijah was home. I came home in the house was spotless and to me
I felt like
That was really sweet of him. Um, I felt like it was very much like dividing conquer
I'll take the kids to their sports and you got the house stuff
And so we don't ever we don't ever argue about like the division of responsibilities and like household chores
Um, and so when I told him last night, I was like I had anxiety when you were coming home and he was like
What do you what do you mean? I said, well, would you?
Would you care if there was dishes in the sink and he's like I'm pretty sure I have come home
And there's been dishes in the sink and I'm like and does it bother you and he's like no like he just doesn't give a
Shit and so I need part of it is like my own
projection
Of what I guess what I've been through but also kind of like what I expect
If I'm gone all day, I would want to come home to a clean house like he's at work all day
He doesn't want to come home to a house full of dishes, you know
Is this kind of like you're cleaning the counters situation and that we're not allowed to clean the counters anymore?
okay
Okay, yeah because a lot of important mail used to get thrown out during those excursions
I still don't check. I still don't check the mail if it
Yeah, no, I still don't check the mail. I am y'all and if there are any if there's anybody listening to this that has
I just don't know why but I do not open my mail. So like
I feel like a lot of people are like that. I open every single thing that comes in unless I know that it's junk
And it immediately goes in the trash
No, I literally don't open anything like at all the stacks that I get to open
The only reason why I sent you that bill the picture of the bill yesterday was because Elijah opened it
Like I would not have opened that and I would not have I would been like, oh, it's fine
Um, oh my god, but somehow they all get paid. So I'm like
I think because most of your bills I have set up on e-billing. They're all supposed to go e-bill auto pay
But for some reason
I don't know if it's like from the last time that your card was like shut for fraud or something
It like kicked some of your bills off e-pay
And they usually let you know like it'll usually be like, oh your auto pay has been disabled blah blah blah blah
But I don't open my mail to know that
But normally they send because I'm on e-billing they'll send
Um, like the e notices, but for some reason your trash pickup decided
That they were not going to send any notice at all and I was like, oh cool
Um, so yeah, no, I it's so interesting
We were just talking yesterday about this the amount of people that I wrote in about adhd and how they think that you need
To like not wait to go through the testing for it because no y'all I
know I have adhd like I know I do I feel it in my bones like
As far back as I can remember and I don't know if this is a this is a symptom or like
Could be linked but like prior to ever being depressed like I know I developed depression sometime in my 20s
Like I that's my belief
But prior to that I've had a job since the day I turned 16 years old, but I've never kept a job
I've always left before or at the one year mark
I have never been able to like sit still in a job expand my knowledge in that job
Maybe move up in a company. I always leave before
I don't know like I don't know what it is. I and and same for like schooling
I can't tell you when I went to community college and then I went to
My regular where I got my four-year degree
I changed my major probably five or six times
And your house thing you were saying how you move all the time
Someone brought up. Why do you move all the time? And I I think I have moved
In my adult life. I mean I moved from
Joe's house to my first apartment from my first apartment to the townhouse from the townhouse to the house that me and hobby bought
And then the second house that me and hobby bought
To Middletown back to the house that I hobby and I had bought
And now to this one that's eight times
Since I had Isaac
Yeah
So I don't know if that's like ADHD or what it is, but like I'm not
I can't just like and then I also have like
I go through periods of time where I'm like obsessed with certain things
Yeah, I fixated like you hyper fixate
Hyper fixate. I also have like crazy ideas and I hyper fixate on those and then I'm two weeks later. I'm done bored
Kristen knows that firsthand. Kristen's like well, if you're still talking about this in a month, we'll talk about it
We're doing it. Yeah, we'll talk about it. But if it's if it's something that I'm like, okay, we have to do this right now
Kristen's like
I'll get on it and then she won't and then I probably won't ever bring it up again. So
Kristen understands
Yeah, we we call it following the bouncing ball. We just you know gauge the interest level and uh
We see what we're gonna do from there
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It's peloton time
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You might not feel like you have the time to fit a workout into your day. I've been there
I have also come up with all the excuses in the book to not work out until I got my peloton bike plus
Which I love I put it in my room now because with my depression and everything else
So it's like I need to be able to see it every single day when I wake up
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Kale we've been setting timers together to do our bike rides at the same time to kind of be accountability partners and
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So someone had messaged me like facebook messaged me
And I don't want to say who because I like don't want to out them in case they don't want to like talk about their own stuff
Um, so this person was like, I'm so sorry from all over the place. I apologize in advance
But try and follow the bouncing ball with my brain
So from what I've gathered from listening to the podcast is that kale is stubborn as hell
Which same and might need some convincing to actually get tested for ADHD
So she doesn't just have to keep to doesn't just keep having to try different depression meds to no avail
So for starters, I can send you a link to one of my favorite ADHD mom groups to see if she wants to join blah blah blah
There's doctor lists in there. Um
Since a lot of women struggle with both getting diagnosed and medicated for ADHD and they're they did find one in Delaware that has
diagnosed somebody in said group
um
She said
She brought up Laura Cleary who you had on baby mama's
um
About her ADHD journey and how she made youtube videos about it
And she she recommended you watch them because she went and got her brain mapped by a doctor named dr. Amen
I think it's pronounced
Okay, and she said I think I remember kale previously saying like a year ago or something that her therapist said
She didn't think she had ADHD and that it was the CPTSD, but you can absolutely have both
I have both as well and then treated for my ADHD and now currently doing emdr
To which is awesome and totally recommend which dr. Drew recommended you get yes, he did he did recommend that to me
Um, so she said anyways if her therapist doesn't want to help her start the ADHD testing process or refer her to someone who will
kale should totally try to do the brain mapping with dr. Amen
He has places in california new york and even Atlanta. I know I don't know kale, but from what I've gathered
She's business savvy, etc. Etc
Um, she said there's like a huge ADHD community, especially for women. It's like
He's almost sounds like it's like underground because we don't talk about it
um, and it's sounds like it's very very hard for women to get diagnosed
but, um, definitely recommended the brain mapping and just said, um
From her experience if you're treating the symptom and not the problem the problem is not going to go away
so
I feel like
We should go figure out how to get your brain mapped
well, so I know, um
Some of the ADHD symptoms can also overlap with the symptoms of depression and that's what I don't know
Maybe also CPTSD. Um
Um, I think it has a lot of overlap, but I think from what I've learned is that
Untreated ADHD and undiagnosed
Can actually show itself in depression and anxiety
Okay, like it can come from that and then if you're only treating like
Depression it could come out in a in a it won't it can fully like not go away
You can't figure out why you keep trying different medications
Your anxiety may heighten because it's going to find another way to show itself
Right from what I mean, that definitely makes sense
So I just want to know how many people like how many of our coffee commas listeners are women and have ADHD is I'm curious
I'm also curious and I also would love to know
Well, we've that dr. Amin is in New York, right?
Yep, New York, California and Atlanta. Well, I'm down to um
To go get your brain mapped. Yeah
Like 100 percent down. No, I think it would be good and I think um
Because I feel like you'll learn a lot of stuff
Well, I'm down to do it and um, I'll keep you guys posted
um, I'm just like ready to
Get my mental health in order and I just I just want to go back to feeling okay because I literally cannot
Live like this
I that's a lot of people feel like that like a lot of people that suffer from
Depression anxiety really any mental illness
They and have struggles with their mental health a lot of them say like it's
It's exhausting
like just living
right, it's just it's tired you get tired of
fighting
To just do regular basic everyday tasks and then the other thing it's like I get so frustrated because
People think oh, we'll just go out. Let's get out of the house or let's go do this or just do this or just do that
and it's like
if I could do those things
I
without
Fighting to do those things. I would do them, but it's like I can't describe it
People you those who get it get it and those who don't don't and I would never ever ever ever wish depression on my worst fucking enemy
I actually know somebody who does not believe in depression anxiety at all
They're like, oh, it's just the way you're thinking you need to just change your thinking and I'm like wow tell me you've never struggled
Yeah, I'm like wow tell me you've never struggled with mental health like that's a privilege that you
Truly believe that people don't suffer from mental health issues
like
Truly I'm glad that you've never had that experience, but you have to be able to still
be
empathetic
Towards those who do have these struggles. Nobody's making this shit up. Nobody just wants to live like that
So it's very interesting to me who like people think you can just outthink your way
Out of yeah, no, I mean, and you know what maybe maybe for
For a low level depression, which I know that I've had for a long I had for a long time
I was able to kind of work through it. I didn't really need meds. They didn't really need extra help
I kind of it was manageable. There are definitely I would say low
Levels of depression and other mental illnesses that you can manage without meds, and I think that's why my therapist. She's pretty
conservative when it comes to meds
But then there are there are forms of depression that are much more severe and need more help
Right and there's literally no shame in any of the above
You just got to kind of take care of yourself and take care of mental health and
We're on this journey with you ma'am
Well, I'll keep you guys posted Kristen and I are going to try to get in with that doctor in New York
Yeah, for sure. And we'll you know, see what we can do content wise
um
So I also so some of the other stuff I have a whole list of things that people wrote in that they wanted to uh
Know about so thank your kitty gang FBI agents for determining that hot boyfriend is hot neighbor
um
Shout out to them. They were literally looking through
um
Like your care of that
They were like, oh she thought she covered it up, but you can see right through the packaging
I know and then I also said um someone was like I read in the comments
It was like she stopped talking about hot neighbor when she got a boyfriend
So obviously hot neighbor is boyfriend. So yes, and then I also said that boyfriend and I have six and a half acres
So I just tell on myself like yes
I am a horrible liar and I can't keep a secret about my own dating life. So y'all know
Y'all have figured me out
It was fun while it lasted
Um, but now I get to now I can post pictures of us. Um, because I wasn't really showing his face
But now that it's been figured out I will I'm gonna post a picture that we took at dinner a couple weeks ago
um that Kristen took and um
Oh, yes at our celebratory
And so I like I can't
It's so weird to be in a relationship with someone who
Is so like divide and conquer and like we just
I don't think I've ever been in a situation where like we just agree on
so much
But we're so different. It's so weird. Well, I think you this is probably the most and this is no offense to anybody that you've
You know been with in the past. I would say like
You haven't I don't think that you've been in a place where you've actually
Been able or wanted to actually divide and conquer with someone
Or be able to accept somebody dividing and conquering with you
I wanted chris to divide and conquer with me. Yes, but I
That was never gonna happen
It just it wasn't like I think you wanted it so bad at the same time during that relationship you really tried to
I feel like from the outside it looked like prove your independence at the same time
And it was like now you're okay leaning in for support when you need it
And maybe it comes with age. Maybe it comes from the significant time you've been in therapy at this point
But your your walls are definitely
the furthest down
With someone that I've that I've ever seen it was so cute on sunday when we had um
We had football all day. Like I said earlier. Um, we left at 9 30
And
Elijah was gonna do like I keep saying Elijah. It's Elijah like with an E. Um, I don't call him Elijah
No, but anyhow
I call him everything else but that
Um, Laiji baby Laiji baby Laija hot neighbor hot boyfriend just boyfriend babe, whatever
Um, so he was gonna do some stuff around the house. I think there's just like I have so many amazon boxes outside
He's been like break them down. Oh, no, no, he wanted to clean out the garage
He wanted to because I want to I told him I want to be able to park my car in the garage
So he was like, okay, when you get back from football, you'll be able to park in your garage
So I was like fuck. Yeah, I love this like he calls it tinkering. He loves to tinker
Um, and when we got to the frickin field, which I've talked about before the football field is like 45 minutes from my house
We get there and lux was like, I just want Elijah to come to my football game. Oh
And I was like, oh fuck like
shit
Um, because what am I supposed to do now because we should have just left together
But then Elijah would have to been there all day. So I text him and I said
Hey, lux wanted you to wanted you to come to his game. And, um
Blow and behold 45 minutes later. He shows up. So
And then at the end of the game lux looked at him. He was like thanks for coming and it was so sweet
I was just like this is so cute
I mean, it's so good that they're like
That he's comfortable enough to like say like I want him to come
Oh, yeah, but he'll always be there
I want him to come. Oh, yeah, but he'll also say like if
If elijah will tell him to do something or pick something up
He'll also be like, I don't like elijah to tell me what to do
You can't have it both ways. He's just telling you to clean up
Yeah, it's because we know that mom is not laying down the wall in that department, but hot boyfriend will
I mean, I you know, you know that little face
I I need to know from our other
Kitty gang and coffee commas listeners. I I'm really thinking about either a
Not buying as many snacks as I normally do or b
Putting a lock on the pantry because my kids
Keep sneaking snacks upstairs and then they leave their trash like they're not even hiding it
So I was I told natalie yesterday when she was here. I was like, I'm not even buying snacks anymore
I'm just gonna buy fruit and if you're hungry, you'll do that or make a sandwich
I'm done buying the snacks because you guys are just like
Literally eating all of them in like three days. Um, what do you guys do for your snacks slash your pantry?
Do you put a lock on the cabinet? Like what are y'all doing?
I feel like someone's gonna literally call cps and be like kills locking our kids away from their food
I said I would have fruit available or make a sandwich. Okay. Yeah, you did you did offer alternatives. Um
I feel like you always have the best snacks though. So I don't blame your kids. Like I read your pantry when I come
Yeah, lasha said, um, he read something about dating single moms because they have the best snacks
Know what literally like you have the
Best it's like stacy's mom got it going on like it's all up in that pantry
Damn the I can't it's really nice. Um
It's funny. You say that because people asked like what do you do for like snacks and stuff in the summer like good
Food ideas meal ideas lunches stuff like that for in the summertime
And I'm like, uh, I don't have kids. I don't really know but I can ask you because you've got you know a whole crew
well in the summertime we grill a lot so
And that was just like regular like even with my exes and stuff, but oh Elijah
Elijah
He is a really good cook
Um, so I'm excited to see like what meals we do this summer. Um, but he grills a lot like we've had
Grilled food a bunch since I mean
To see him have been together. Well, he throws down you guys do like gourmet meals out there
Well, he doesn't like take out. He doesn't really he he wants home cooked meals every day and actually which thank god
Wait, no, I know because I feel like
Like my my food spending has definitely decreased it has decreased. Yeah
He is doing great things
I'm gonna I'm gonna praise him like you like you know, like others have praised him, but I'm actually gonna mean it
No, but seriously decreasing the food spending
Um, he he it was funny because he he every single night
He's like, what do you want to do for dinner and I hate that because I feel like the pressure is on me
And I'm very basic. I eat the same four things
Um, but he also he just likes other things. So I'm like
We don't have any kids
Here at all and I'm not that hungry. I said, so can we just do hamburger helper bitch
We had hamburger helper two nights in a row
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You still cooked and you didn't eat out
Right and we don't we didn't have the kids we ate and was fine and um, I don't know like it's just pretty good
But I did see I think I talked about it on one of the other podcast episodes
This TikTok of a woman who does Monday through Saturday or Sunday through Saturday
And then has the the meals for the week and then she keeps them until someone gets sick of it
And then they're the same or whatever. So I told Elijah about that and he said, um, he was fine with that
But then I I never did it. So I need to order. I do need to order the white board so I can put it up
Yeah, I think that's a really good idea. Um, I would say
For grilling I like to grill because and this is one of my budgeting tips
I like to make sure we're grilling in the summertime because then we don't turn the stove on as much
If you don't turn the stove on it's less hot. So then your air won't continue to run because your stove's on
Oh, that's a good one. See just all the time. They get a shit save money
But um, as far as like lunches and stuff go I feel like
Your kids pretty much probably just like what tell you when they're hungry. Um, no for lunches
I do try to just stay on track a little bit. Um, if they're hungry outside of like when I make lunch
Isaac will like make a sandwich for himself, but
Um, it just depends on the day
Honestly, yeah, well, and I feel like with your pool finally freaking up. Thank you again, Elijah. Hello
Can you hear me Kristen? Hello? Can you hear me?
Can you hear me now, ma'am? I can hear you
That was really good. Um a little bit of technical difficulties
Kristen just tagged me in a stupid ass post that said you ever been in a car with someone who drives like we got extra lives
Yeah, Kristen. Kristen's the worst driver in history. Absolutely not. Have you ever died?
No, but I've come close with you
I've come close with you. I've become very close
Me I'm a good driver. You're a fucking liar
I'm a great driver. We're gonna play whose car insurance is more expensive
Oh, and we'll let that determine. We'll let that determine who's the liar here
Uh, yeah, my car insurance is kind of through the roof. I hate it. I don't know why I'm like this, but
It is what it is. Um, my driving is fine. No one's ever died
No, it's not ask Lindsey. Lindsey's not here, but um y'all Kristen is not a good driver
When we were in Dallas
I had to tell Kristen that she was no longer allowed to drive the rental and I was responsible because
It was insane and it's crazy because she does not look at her phone while she's driving like she just can't
So it's not even like a texting and driving situation. It's just like she has a death wish
And I don't understand it. Listen, we got everywhere we needed to be
Severely early. We were fine. Yeah, and then I
Took over the driving. Yeah, and I mean it was still fine
It was fine, but yes, I did get banned from driving the rental car and then when I was I was like
You are not even getting in that front seat. I was like, okay
Absolutely, it's fine. It's fine. Um, just sit in the back
I was saying that for
Lunches and stuff for your kids. I feel like now with your pull-up finally like they're gonna just be in the pool all summer
Yeah, which also makes you hungrier
This is true. Maybe you could you like pull side snacks?
Yeah, or shark charcuterie boards. You could get the um, don't they have like the floating
Like thing that they can literally just like you could put food on and it just like floats around
Yeah, I'm not gonna cook this summer. I don't think
I want you to go home for everybody. I want you to go home and like tell your kids like yeah, you guys are on your own
It's summer
No, you know what?
I saw this video. Um, this tiktok yesterday. I might have been this morning. Not sure. Um,
She this woman she said that um
Her and her family live in this trailer a single wide trailer. She did a tour
She said she pays $500 a month and it's on this big plot of land and I said, you know what?
I'm reevaluating my entire life and I'm gonna just sell everything. I'm gonna get a horse and buggy
and a single wide trailer and
We're just gonna live our best life
I mean, I feel like that would be interesting
Like could you imagine me and four kids in a single wide trailer? No
Not with the amount of personalities between lux and linkin alone
I don't know. I feel like it would be a great time
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It's funny because some people were like, can you guys do prank calls on the podcast?
Oh, yeah, who do you want me to call right now?
So someone had suggested calling Joe and V and being like, yeah, like I'm moving
I'm selling the house like how how soon do you think I could sell it?
How much do you think I could get for it? Yeah, we're just like selling it and like doing something like literally doing something
All right, hold on. I'm gonna call Joe right now
He probably won't even answer. I know he probably won't
Okay
Hey, um, I am calling because I want to sell my house
Okay, and I want to know
Yeah, I want to sell it. I'm gonna get a single wide trailer and I'm gonna start over
so
How do I find out what this is worth?
Um, I can do some research
Okay, and then how far away are you comfortable with me moving?
I was thinking closer to the beach
What about it
What do you mean?
Oh, um, I forgot about the kids schooling. Um, well, I'd probably just leave Isaac with you for the school year
I'm doing a prank call for the podcast
Okay, all right, I'm just kidding about all of it. I'm not selling my house or anything
What'd you say?
I can't hear him. I had to hang up. All right. Should I prank Lincoln?
Oh my god, I was gonna say can we prank Lincoln and and tell him that you like, um
Who's his favorite like sports player? Oh my god. No, I don't want to break his heart. Oh shit. Okay. Can you
Can you be like, um
You just be like Lincoln. I need you to come home. I broke my ankle and you have to wipe my butt
Okay, hold on
Hi, hey Lincoln. Um, I just fell down the stairs and I think I broke my ankle again
Where are you?
Yeah, I was just kidding. How did you know?
Oh
You got to you're going to Boston
You had to watch the finals that's so crazy because I'm actually selling my house and we're I'm moving to Boston
I hate you
What do you mean you hate me
I don't want to move to Boston. Oh, where do you want to move?
Where we live right now?
Oh, so, oh, okay. So Texas is out of the question as well. Yeah
Oh, it was between Boston and Texas, but all right. Well, they literally just we're just no
Oh, all right. Well
Okay, love you so much. I hope you have hope you have a great time in Boston. He hung up on me
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on
I asked him how we did that. Oh, okay. I was about to I was about to cuss you out
Um, I hope you have a great time in Boston. I love you. Please send me pictures
Wait, we have a question for Lincoln. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We have a question for you
What is your name listed as in your phone? What is my name in your phone?
mom
Just mom. That's it. No emojis
No
Lincoln it's not like shitty pants. What it's not you didn't put me in your phone as shitty pants
He's so dry. You're so dry. Okay. I was just prank calling you for the podcast
What?
I was prank phone calling you for the podcast
Or what?
Because I wanted to see your reactions
Oh
Lincoln, you don't care. No
Well, are you in Boston already? No
No, I need you. We're eating at cheesecake factory
Wait, you're driving to Boston? Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. Well, I'll let you go
I hope you have a great meal. Make sure you get mac and cheese balls. Yeah, I'm eating them right now
Oh, perfect. I love you. Send me pictures. Okay. Okay. All right. Love you
Bye. Love you
Oh
He's so dry. He's like he is just like hobby. I can't I I don't want to move. He said I don't want to move
We where I live right now? We just moved. Who else can you prank call?
I don't have any friends
I feel like Natalie won't be shocked by anything. She's right up there with me at this point
Well, what should I tell her though? Like what should I tell her? What can we tell?
I wonder if Nat would believe you're moving. No, she would never. Damn. You guys have to tell get right in prank phone calls
Call Nat and be like Elijah and I broke up. So I have to move
Okay, hold on. I'm putting myself back on mute.
Me and Elijah broke up. So I need to move. I need to sell this house
I need you to hang up and call me back and start this conversation all over. Okay
What?
We broke up and I need to sell the house
What do you mean you broke up, Kale?
I'm not understanding something
He said he's not ready for the chaos
Are you supposed to? I'm stuttering
What?
No, I'm just kidding. This was a prank phone call
I'm looking goodbye
You fucking asshole
I'm literally over here fucking stuttering. I have anxiety, remember?
Blame Kristen. All right. Love you, bye
Wait, okay. What should I call Elijah and say something to him?
Um, what could I what could I say to him? Oh, tell me about chickens
Oh
People have been saying they want you to get up. Okay. Okay. Hold on
Hey, babe
Um, I did a thing today
Guess what I did
I what
Yes, I did buy something
I got
chickens
Yeah
Like with a coop I'll call you on I'm on break. No, no, no, but there but we have a chicken coop and chicken
So we'll have fresh eggs
Okay, I'll call you when we're on break. Okay. All right. I love you
Bye
He is not nobody is with my shit
I mean not at least the funniest but now you see the PTSD we all have
Wait
Y'all have to write next time me and Kristen podcast together
I'm gonna have a list of people to prank and you have to send help me send in like the pranks. Yeah, we need to
Yeah, we need to know if Alexa wasn't at work. We'd be able to prank call Alexa
Oh my god, I'd give her like a fucking scandal like some kind of scandal
She would be like, um, I'm at work. I don't have time for this
She would be like Elijah who's like, can I call you on my break?
He I wonder if he's like seriously thinks I bought chickens
I mean he like you're gonna have to go immediately get chickens and a coop and have it at your house in the next
Probably three hours by the time he gets no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not getting chickens in a fucking coop
I will not wrote in and posted pictures of chickens and how you need them because you said that you have all this acreage
And I'm like, we are not getting chickens. Thank you. We are not getting any more animals. I cannot
Immediately know immediately. No immediately. Oh my god. That is so funny. Um
I can't you you're gonna have to update us with his reaction. Yeah, I'm gonna like it's no chickens. Yeah, okay
I'll let you know. Oh my god
um
What else is on this list that people wanted us to talk about? Oh, so Joe met Elijah
At the celebration dinner. Yes, so people were wondering what do your kids dads think about him
Well, joe loves him and all of joe's friends love him
So they had like their little bromance that was established over Memorial Day weekend
Um, Javi met him once before me and Elijah ever were like a thing
Um, when I was moving in and um, so I don't I don't know that he has an opinion
Maybe he does maybe he doesn't and then Chris claims that he loves Elijah. Um,
So, I don't know
Well, I mean that's good at least nobody has like a straight issue with him
No, and they they shouldn't because
He he's great. He's a great guy. I mean he works really hard. He's really good to me. He's good to the kids
Um, he takes care of his things. He's a nice person
He's close with his mom like there's he's close with his family
um
So, yeah, I don't think there's any reason for them not to like him
Love that. Um, okay
So we also have how do we find balance and establish boundaries with our workaholic personalities and avoid burnout?
That's um, christen means help with that because she doesn't stop working me as a boss
Literally, I will text christen and say stop working. I will tell her take the whole day off
I'll tell her the shit can wait until tomorrow
Um, and she always tells me no
This is true. This is true. Um
I feel like you've gotten way better because you used to do this fun thing
Where you wouldn't have the kids or the kids would be asleep and you would just that's when you would be like
Oh, we're working now and it was like 9 p.m
Um
Or on your weekend christen wanted to kill me. Yeah, or on the weekends that you didn't have them. You would be like, hello
Do you remember me?
And I'd spit out all these ideas and all the things that need to get done
And now I just don't do that because I just
It'll have a relationship now
Yes, and we we do our best to do friends after five
um
We christen doesn't listen more than I don't
Like sometimes I don't listen, but it's mainly christen because I'm like
Literally her mom had like a little accident the other day and I was like literally take the whole day off
And she was what did I text you that morning? I forget. What did I say to you that morning?
Let me go look
You told me what happened and then I said, oh, I'm we texted all day on Monday. Hold on
I'm still in the 7 p.m. Instead of the 7 a.m. You were awake Monday. Oh
Oh, I was in bed until 7 30 p.m. Yeah, but you were conscious. Okay
you told me um
That you your mom was good and she was laying down for a nap and I said, okay, don't take the whole day off
And um hang out with your mom and you said no, I'm playing catch-up. I put her down for a nap
No, it's just like take the fucking day off like what are you doing?
Um, it never fails that just because I obviously don't just have you
Like just you by yourself now and it's like extensions of you at this point that I have that like
Even if you're we're in a place where I could it's like all the other things cannot wait till tomorrow. You know what I mean?
Yeah, I guess that makes sense
Which I like like it because it keeps me busy and I never have like a
I'm never sitting here twiddling my thumbs like ever
Um, but as far as avoiding burnout goes. I don't know. I feel like there's definitely times where I've
definitely gotten burned out
um
And then I don't really know I think I just like
We end up doing something that I actually like reignites my passion for what I'm doing
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But like I will say I can't wait for my July vacation
Like I cannot fucking wait and you should enjoy that to the full extent like absolutely do not work even a minute on that trip
I'm gonna do my best
Why have to do the coffee combo stuff still because like I don't have anybody to do that but take over
Um, I'm going to I have like Cory and I are trying to chill this vacation
Last vacation we ran around like maniacs. This one. We're really gonna just be like at the resort
By the pool. We rented a cabana for the week. Um, so I don't even have to like worry about getting sun poisoning or anything crazy
Since I'm so pale
I can just sit in this cabana that has this giant fan
Not be dying. They bring you so nice. I know they bring you your food and drinks right to the cabana
To me that's perfect. That's what we didn't
Um, we did that in Jamaica and it was literally the best because it's you get to enjoy being outside without getting sunburn
And just like you're a little bit cool because you're in the shade. That's it's the best way to do it
I can't wait to take naps like I'm gonna nap by the pool
And like not know what to do with myself and then I feel like I'll come back super refreshed and like ready to kick ass
You're gonna love it. It's gonna be cool. I'm pumped people actually asked like what is it?
What does it look like for me when you plan a vacation?
and I'm like kale's not allowed to plan vacations anymore because
It's never good. It's not good. It's never good. It does not your execution is a little off your intentions are fully there
Yeah, but my execution is way off. And so, um, it's just not
The last time that kale booked a flight it was for her and I to go I forget where and we were in the last row of a fucking plane
Literally the last row and kill me get on and he was like, why are we back here?
And Kristen was like because you booked it
I was like, oh, okay. This is why I won't be doing this again. Um, yeah, but what does it look like for me?
It really depends like it depends where
Where you're going. We kind of just look up stuff that you want to do
Um stuff that fits your whole plan
I still bother you sometimes while I am
Um away
um
Not normally though because normally you're so busy with all the kids that you don't even have your phone till like nighttime
Okay. Yeah, I would say that's pretty because you do all your excursions during the day
And like pretty early in the day and then you usually do like
Some type of water activity whether it's like ocean or pool and then it's like nighttime. Um
Yeah, I would it's it's uh, that's when I get to play like
Catch up on like stuff that I don't have time to do regularly like bookkeeping and all the boring stuff
Yes
So that's always fun. Um, people ask to like how we budget for vacations and stuff. We kind of just
Well for my I'll I'll say for my own
I
calculate exactly like
What I always over
Estimate what I'm going to need for a vacation
And then I break it down into how much I need to save out of every single paycheck
to the point that we're leaving and then I have
I do that and then I have all my money
um, I
Kristen takes money out of certain paychecks for me and puts them in a
vacation account
um, because I like to do
like with the kids I like to do one big vacation every year and
Some years it's a bigger fund than others and we just we act accordingly
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think your I would say your most expensive vacation was probably your three weeks in Hawaii
And that was by far my favorite one. Yeah, it was very very expensive
But um, I will say and this is no shade at all
It was also because Leah was there because we were like, oh together we can do we can
Reek havoc, you know what I mean? Like we're like, oh like together, you know what I mean?
But I had it just been me had it just been me and the kids. I don't think that I would have spent that much
But you know when it was like, oh, we should get a boat for the day. Oh wait, we should get a boat for two or three days
You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah escalated very quickly. It was a very rapid situation. So um
Yeah, very rapid that we just forgot to include me
Next time I
Go to hawaiian vacation. I'm just not gonna come back
So
Pretty sure Joe just said you're not allowed to move far
Well, actually Elijah already lived in Hawaii for a couple years. So he is not interested in going back either. So really?
Yeah, I I think
I mean, he was married at the time
Um, and also it's just like really far. It was really expensive to come home
And it was during all the covid years. So he didn't get to really go out and do stuff and he worked a lot
He was in the military. So
That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, but I'm like you guys have a list of where you want to go together
Well, I asked that's so crazy. I asked him last night. I said if money is no object, where do you want to go?
Um, and he didn't have an answer. I think he's not like a travel person
Like he just doesn't like he'll do it because I want to do it
But if it wasn't for me, he's not going to do it kind of thing. Okay. No, I get that
I mean, I'm the same. I'm good with being inside of the country. I have no interest in going outside
Oh, no, I'm like regularly pressuring him to get a um a passport. Yeah, I refuse
Next thing I know I'll be like coffee combos content trip in aruba. Got it. I'm like, nope. Sorry. I can't attend
I'm just gonna like forge um, your out your signature on an application
I mean, I'm gonna forge yours 24 sevens. So it'd be fair. It'd be fair
I wanted to talk about that
but I didn't want to get in trouble that you are power of attorney for my
signature and um
Oh, yeah, we can't get in trouble because we have the legal documents that I'm allowed to sign on your behalf
But am I allowed to say something? I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't give a shit when briana posted that
The shit with the lawsuit was like
I hope when you signed this you felt like complete shit and I was laughing me and kristin we're laughing so
Because I was like, wait a minute. I didn't even know like I was working at the time
I didn't have my phone and I was just like kristin has power of attorney to do that stuff. So
I promise you it's fully legal, but um, I was cracking up because I'm like
I was working and didn't give three zero. I gave zero fucks. Like I didn't care
kristin's like, yeah, I felt fine. I felt fine. I was not worried at all
When you signed this, I hope you felt like complete shit. No, I literally didn't give a complete shit at all. So
Oh my god, no, it was so fucking funny though because you really never know what goes on behind the scenes someone stuff like
And people ask that they're like, what is it like like behind the scenes of all of the podcasts?
Like we see we get the episode of the podcast and we know there's ads in it
But like what is the whole process behind the scenes and you really like we just talked about this the other day
You look at something in the store and you don't think about the process that it took to get that thing into the store
That you're about to buy right. So it's just like funny that
When she did that I'm like, bitch. That wasn't even her that signed it
Like
She doesn't sign 99.9 percent of her shit. So
I'm like, I this is it was very very funny. Um, well, I mean you live and you learn I guess right?
You were too busy and having a sign. I was busy working. Um, and it got signed but
it's just so funny because I'm like get it together but, um
the behind-the-scenes is really crazy because
When people say get a real job, I'm like, y'all have no idea like you
And I'm not obviously talking about the supporters. I'm talking about the trolls that are like, oh, it's time to get a real job
Like the behind-the-scenes work for all the podcasts is a real job
Who do you think is operating and doing all of the sales the meetings the the conference calls the
You know the posting on social media. These are all full-time jobs that people have like it's not just me
It's not just me. It's Kristen and it's like a whole team of other people who this is their job and, um
As far as I'm concerned, it is my degree. It's like what my degree is meant for so I'm just like
It's work like it is work and I can't tell you there's so many times where I'm like, I you know
I would love for this company to sponsor us. I love their products. Whatever it either works out or it doesn't work out
Um, and so there's that aspect of it and just getting merch. I mean merch has been
a full
It's a full time production. Yeah, it's a full situation. And so, um, it's just not easy to just like put it out
You know what I mean? Like it's just not
You don't just like get the product and put it out. It's a full time. I'm like you can but when you want to have a quality
situation
Like you need to go through the design process and the sampling process and feel it and see the printing and see if it's
Holding up in the wash and if you like it and if it's fading and then you got to make your comments
And they go back and they keep doing this at round after round after round until you get it right
and then you have a
Release schedule that you get locked into and you need pictures and you need the stuff put on the website and you need
Um, the whole marketing situation behind it. Are we doing paid ads? Are we not doing paid ads?
Who who are they going on all of this costs money paying somebody to put it up on the website paying someone
You know what I mean? And I think that's the other part of it is like, you know
I'm we're all spending a lot of money to make the money, you know, I've owned businesses in the past
I've tried different ventures before that haven't worked out and I I want to anything that I put out now
I want to be of good quality because of things that I've experienced in the past
Um, I want people to trust me. I want people to trust my products again
I don't ever want there to be a time where they're not happy with things and then they you know what I mean
Because I've already I've messed up in business so much but I want to take my time and make sure it's right and so
In doing that, you know, we have to send samples out a hundred times or
Well, it's funny
You actually say that because I saw this thing the other day because you always say how you failed so much in business
and I'm like
You really didn't obviously because it's you it feels like that but
I was looking at something and they were talking about and showing all of the Kardashian's failed business ventures
And there are so many
That people have no idea about
Really?
Yeah, there was like over 12
No way
Yeah, I have to send you the article and I literally was like I literally said I don't know why kale feels like shit about herself because
Part of growing in business is failing. You don't
Learn shit without failing
Right and you don't learn shit without it's just the same as in your personal life. You don't
Learn anything
Most of the time you don't learn much by the good times. It is the bad times and that's why okay
So this is going in a completely different direction, but when people are like, oh, you're one to give advice and it's like
No, but I am because I've
Been through the trenches
Like I've literally been through the worst of the worst like that's why I am giving you this advice
It doesn't necessarily make me a hypocrite. You know what I mean because I've experienced this or I've experienced something
So similar that this is where I got my takeaway. This is where I got my lesson
This is where I get my advice because I've been through the shit. I've done it. I've failed
I've made mistakes and so
Um, I wish people would see it from that perspective more often
Well, and it's just I think that's just people being probably annoyed with more with themselves and projecting that like maybe they
Didn't learn anything from their failures
Maybe they don't have anybody in their life that can actually give them good advice
Right, that's true. That's a good point. It's I think honestly
it's like a lot of projection and
I was reading something the other day it really resonated and basically was just saying like
We only want the positive stuff naturally because it doesn't make us uncomfortable
But the only time you grow is by being uncomfortable and failing and learning things and being heartbroken and
Being disappointed and like those are the times that you learn shit
So like it can't always be happy and I was like, you know what like what a perspective check here?
It is it really is though. It really is I was like damn
Um
But yeah, so
The the podcast is obviously a job
It is business ventures are all a job
And we do a lot of jobs and wear a lot of hats that
It would take most people a team of like 50 people to execute and it's most of the time two and three of us
I'm proud of us. So I feel like we're doing pretty good. I think we're doing a great job. You're doing a great job
Yeah, so are you um, I'm waiting for Elisha to call me back because about the
I don't know if I should text him and be like I was just kidding or wait to film his reaction when he gets home
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I'm pulling up some foul plays because people wanted a couple foul plays and before we go
I'm trying to find ones that are not shit related. Um
Let can we talk for one second about how serious people take these groups for the podcast?
Yeah, it's honestly ride or die. I know. I love it. I it's so cool. I um
I was like, wow, this is amazing and I read one of the comments that was like
I love that there's just like a group of women here openly admitting. Um to shitting their pants on a regular basis
Yeah, that's shitty kiddies. I'm just like
I'm just like no, we really are ride or die. I absolutely love them and um the groups are so fun
I actually love like especially when I'm like rocking the baby or I just don't have anything going on for a few minutes
I get on and I like respond and I see funny things that people post and I just love it
It feels it feels like a community like it feels I don't know. I love it. Oh, it's definitely it's definitely a community
Um, I cannot wait for our merch to come out and for everyone to see it
I'll obviously be posting some sneak peeks once we get the samples and approve stuff
I'm gonna post sneak peeks in the coffee combos
Um fan page and that is linked on our instagram under
Believe it's behind the scenes. I'll link it again tomorrow so that if you want to join you can join
It's a positive group only. We're not entertaining
Any drama any shit talking? I mean besides like actual shit
Um, that's always welcome. If you like those things great. If you don't like listening to shit stories, that's okay, too
Um, you don't have to participate in those combos. No, hey, we don't care. Yeah, totally
I understand. It took me a long time to get comfortable with talking about shitting
So you didn't really have much choice at this point. Yeah
This point I'm gonna call myself out. But yeah, that being said here is we're gonna go to this first foul play that I got
Okay
Hi ladies. I love your podcast
I work as an occupational therapist in a nursing home and the other day I walked into my new patient's room a 90 year old
Man his eyes are closed and he isn't answering me. I noticed that he's breathing, but he's also shaking
Now it's definitely not cold. So I know he isn't shivering
So I start getting nervous that he might be having a seizure
I call his name loudly in his ear to see if he'll respond
I go to take down his sheets so I can begin lying him on his side. And what do I see?
Not a seizure just masturbating
I pull up the covers in 0.2 seconds and immediately apologize
Pull his curtains and leave the room. I now understand why his eyes were closed and he wasn't answering me
I think he was willing me away. That was a first for me
Just an aside. He's confused and I'm sure is seeking sensory stimulation. However was a funny story in the moment
I don't oh my god. I never even thought about
like nursing homes and people still being
Yeah, like
sexually
active
Yeah, wow. I don't I don't even know what I would do
I think I would be I would be mortified like I would feel bad, but I would also be mortified to have seen that, you know
Yeah, I
Yeah
I don't even know
What the hell I would do. Um
I mean good for him for still, you know, I
I would cry though, I think
I would I would also immediately break down. I would need the rest of the day. I just love how she pulled the sheet back up
She was like, let me put him back to his
The way that I found him
Poor thing. She scarred her knife
Glad he was okay
I'm glad it wasn't a seizure, but damn
Oh my god, that's a lot. That's a lot. Um
okay
Love your podcast and I'm always crying with lol at the foul play stories and thought I'd said my own
This was many years ago now. I must have been around 20 years old. I'm 36 now, but never oh god
Never have I experienced such butthole annihilation due to sickness
What
Before it were since butthole annihilation. That's a new one. Okay. Oh my god. I'm scared
I'm very scared of where this is going
I used to have a horse and had to cycle two miles to the stables after work to take him in from the field for the night
I'd start to feel funny when I finished my shift shift at work
So quickly paid my way to the stables
It came on so fast by the time I got there
I could barely stand got the horse in and started to make my way home
I had to stop around three times on my way back to vomit. My younger sister was at home
I burst in the door and went straight to the bathroom telling her I'm really sick
I go to the bathroom, sit on the toilet, but then I felt the vomit coming at the same time. No problem, right?
Oh, no, oh no
I'm on the toilet. So I'll just lean over and spew in the bath
Well, the force of was stuff of nightmares and when I bent over to vomit the liquid shit sprayed out of my ass
Like I had a hose up there and I couldn't stop I started shouting
For my sister for help and she ran in but instantly her face of horror told me everything
I needed to know. She couldn't help me. This shit has sprayed. Oh my god. No, no, no, no, no, no, no
This shit had sprayed right up the wall and was dripping off the ceiling
She instantly screamed and called my mom
It was at work and told her she thinks I'm
Told her she thinks I'm dying
My mom had to call her friend to come around until she could get home
And so she came in and her face of absolute disgust and shock when she entered the bathroom
Will always have a place in my memories
I don't know to this day if it was my mom's friend or my mom who ended up having to scrub the walls and ceiling of
Dripping shit water. I've never wanted to ask. I hope they have forgotten, but let's be honest
How can you forget that keep killing it?
My god, oh my god. Oh no
So I also my shit didn't spray all over but this also happened to me in Chattanooga
and I was
Shitting so bad and also throwing up and so I was like, I'll just sleep on the toilet and I'll
Stack the towels up on the sink and just like put my head on the sink and so I can shit in
peace
and
It was so bad and I ended up knocking the towels into the sink and also throwing up into the sink
And I had to call the room service to come help like unclog the sink
So I fully relate to that and I also think I shit my pants on that trip as well
so
I am so sorry that that happened to you and I fully resonate with the pain and the just like
Embarrassment, um
I'm so sorry
I'm so sorry
Me and Kristen shared a bed and I shit my pants
I was like I I didn't
It just came out like I I could it was only a little but it was like
I just it was so embarrassing and my old my ex-friend mark is in there in another bed
And I was like he needs his own room like I can't I had to wake I had to wake him up to tell him
That housekeeping was coming at 3 a.m. To unclog the sink of vomit
Well, then he had to get his own room because I was no longer comfortable with like shitting and hymn diarrhea and like
I fully understand shitting and throwing up at the same time. It's that's I mean it's also happened to me
It happened to me at cracker barrel when I was like 12. I got food poisoning at the table
And it was I won't go back to cracker barrel like if I get sick at a restaurant. I don't go back
There is no giving me a second chance. Did I ever tell the story about the tampon?
Uh, not to my knowledge
I don't know where this is going. Um
So in that foul play that the woman just wrote in about like the look of
Disgust and horror and horror
um
immediately thought of
circa
2013
Nope, it was circa 2012
um
I accidentally left a tampon in for like two weeks
and
I called my ob and I was like something's wrong. I think I had an sd
It smells so bad. I'm like I cannot believe I'm telling this story. I thought I was gonna go take it to the grave. Um,
And I said I think I have an sd. Like something's wrong and he was like, okay come in immediately
So he got me in and he was like, nope. It's just a tampon. Well, he did not wear a mask
Oh, no
Oh, and so oh my god. I want to die. I literally want to die right now. Um, when he took the tampon out
The face that he made
Was exactly what a picture of the woman walking into
Shit sprayed all over the feeling in the walls just pure disgust and absolute terror. Um, I
Am I have been sure to never leave a tampon in ever again after that. So, um
How did you not get tss?
Um, I'm shocked that I didn't I actually think that's how I like aside from the foul odor of like a like literal rotting flesh
I also
I also started to I think I got like a fever
It wasn't to the point where like I was about to die or anything
But I think I did start to have some of the symptoms that made me like feel sick
Um, but yeah, it was a good two weeks and I was like
This is literal hell and I'm so thankful. He got me in in that day
Um, and so he also told me that they literally pulled tampons out of women like daily
So I did like as mortified as he was like he was the look on his face. I'll never forget
Um, I even remember the room I was in I'm like picturing it right now
But he did make me feel better because he said that they literally do that daily
Was this the same doctor that delivered your children? This is the doctor that delivered Isaac. Okay, okay
Not the Delaware one got it. No, I was gonna say you kept going back because I would die
No, I eventually moved. Um, this was before Lincoln. So, um
He saw me the same doctor saw me up until I was 37 weeks with Lincoln
And then he was like you can't drive to allentown to have this baby
You have to find a Delaware doctor and so that's when I transferred
Um, so I never saw I've never seen him since I just love how you remember these things
But like if I said hey, kill would you have for breakfast? You'd be like, I don't fucking know
well
The tampon was trauma
Yeah, I think you just have too many traumatic experiences that like there is no room for fresh short-term memories
Oh my god
I just like what is my life like people are probably like kill is so foul and gross but like it happens
Like all this stuff. It's so funny to me and like I respect it, right? And I said that in the coffee combos group
I respect it if you don't want to hear about these stories great
We put them at the end. So just turn it off before we get here
Um, but like nasty stuff doesn't just happen to like guys. It also happens to girls and like
We can talk about it. It's a it's a safe space here
Yeah, maybe I'll just any like foul anything foul at all will try to save to the end maybe
That way people don't have to hear a good compromise like that way if there is anything super foul
They can just like turn it off. Yeah, we put it to the end and then once Lindsay is back in commission and we start our
Telegram group chat we can like share
A lot more of the foul play stuff there. That's like real gross that we get all right. I'm down
It's been fun. Thank you for filling in for Lindsay. Everyone go with um, send her some love on instagram
Um, and we will check in with you guys next week. Awesome. Thanks everybody. See ya