Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Taking Care Of The Mental Load One Girly At A Time!
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This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever.
I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey.
Good morning and welcome to Coffee Combo's divorces.
Coffee Combo's divorces is crazy. Kristin goes, you actually, you actually have a divorce file? I
said yes. Um, yes ma'am. Mine, mine is labeled with all the things. So this-
I just got a letter. I just got a letter.
I just got a letter.
Wait, is that from Dora?
Yeah.
No, Blue's Clues.
Oh, Blue's Clues.
Yeah, that's right.
Good morning, everyone.
It has been quite an eventful morning for me and this house as I was trying to locate
my divorce decree, not my parenting plan, a little bit unexpected.
Unfortunately, I called Will
after my dentist appointment this morning,
and he delivered the bad news
that his parents had taken Della to the vet yesterday,
and that she has blood cancer,
and there's a tumor in her mouth
that they cannot operate on. She could be sent to Auburn University to do radiation. However,
they said that they would not advise doing that because her body probably could not withstand
would stand that type of treatment and gave her six months to live. It's very sad. I feel like it was one of the last things that we had of our unity together.
And she comes here when Will travels. I was expecting to have her next week.
However, Will's dad's going to be keeping her because we don't know what's going to
happen and that would be probably way too overwhelming for me to have three dogs and
Jackson here by myself.
I mean, also for Della as well, right?
Like, I mean, knowing where she's at, because I think dogs do a good job trying to cover
up their pain and discomfort a lot of the time.
And so it might be overwhelming for her to kind of keep switching locations.
Well, so I had tried to pry and ask Will some questions on what the vet told his dad because
I did have all of stuff about her put in the divorce decree since it was a dog that we shared.
In the decree, it says, Della, the Havanese dog, shall remain the sole and exclusive property
of Jackson.
Jackson shall be permitted to take Della with him to each respective parent's home.
Each parent shall be responsible for purchasing Della's food and treats with that respective
parent to maintain consistency.
Neither party shall change Della's food
without first discussing the same with the other parent.
All parties will notify each other
if Della becomes ill or suffers accident
while in their respective care.
The party shall equally divide the cost
of Della's routine grooming, veterinary care,
but not limited to shots, yearly checkups,
heartworm prevention, flea and tick prevention, worming and dental cleaning.
If she requires additional veterinary care outside the scope of routine, each party shall
be responsible for up to $500 per calendar year. it also discusses in the event of illness that if the parties are unable to agree, then
we have to take her to a vet for them to determine medically what the best call of action would
be.
I don't think that you've ever talked about Della being a part of your divorce decree.
I don't think that you've ever mentioned that. And I think that that is, well, one, I just want to say kudos to
both of you for you and Will for coming up with the plan that is Della is Jackson's,
right? Like it's not your Della, it's not yours, Della is not Will's. And I think that
that was really thoughtful of you guys to even take it that far. Right. And I also think
because some dogs do really well with going wherever the parent, like their owner goes,
right? Like some dogs, and we know that that's not the case for everybody. But being as though
Della has gone back and forth between y'all's houses, I think that's really incredible.
You guys both did a really great job, but I'm so sorry to hear of her prognosis. Well, so not that it's an argument because I don't
think it would be appropriate to be in a contentious conversation right now at this moment. He's trying
to process what he just heard. I'm trying to process it. Jackson's trying to process it.
It's not like something's going to happen to her tomorrow. However, unfortunately, I am going to have to remind him that it is
Jackson's dog and we have to go with what his wishes are because Will said upon her
death that he would bury her and I personally feel like she should be cremated. How do you
feel about a child at 12 years old making that decision?
I think when Bear died, Bear was my first dog and also all of my kids' first dog. You guys remember this episode from Teen Mom. I want to say that Lux was born, Isaac was eight, so he was under 12.
I gave him the full rundown and let them choose, you know, did
they want to be there?
Did they, you know, how they felt?
I personally think that at 12 years old, I mean, you know, Jackson better than I do,
but if you feel like he's in a place where he can make that decision, then I think that
that's fair for you to at least take into consideration what he wants and then ultimately
decide if that, you know, as his parent, is
that in the best interest of, you know, the circumstances. And for me, if it was Isaac,
I would trust his judgment. So, you know, when Isaac's cats pass away, that's going
to be up to him. So, yeah, I think definitely taking and ultimately, if he's like, yeah,
let's bury him and you're like, here's here are some of the reasons why we should maybe cremate.
I think you ultimately have the final say but I do think that it's fair to take into
consideration what he wants.
Well Nanny's dog Miley just passed away not too long ago and we did the cremation and
everything for her and there are so many options with cremation and everything for her. And there are so many options with cremation
with like memory stuff. Yeah. Like you can do the paw print and like ornaments and like
things like that. And so ultimately, if I went to Jackson and Will and they both made
the decision that they were going to bury her, I think the only thing that I would say
is I hope that you're burying her in a place that you will always have. to the decision that they were going to bury her. I think the only thing that I would say
is, I hope that you're burying her in a place that you will always have.
That's my biggest thing. I mean, that's even with people too. I don't know where, I say
I'm from Pennsylvania and also from Delaware, but we're in Pennsylvania and we're in Delaware.
If I'm buried in Delaware and my kids don't end up in Delaware, should I actually be buried
in Pennsylvania with the rest of my family? Same thing with dogs and
animals is like, if you're going to bury them in the backyard, I hope Will plans to stay
there forever.
And I think to your point, you can still do some of the paw print stuff with a burial.
Because if they choose to put her to sleep at the vet,
they might be able to do it quickly.
But if she passes at home,
you'd have very minimal time before the decomposing starts.
So I think that that should be taken into consideration.
You also might be able to do some of the stuff
while she's still alive.
See, that's something that I need to look into
and like find a company or just call the local vet
and see what companies
because sometimes they have specific companies that they work with for cremation and stuff
like that.
Maybe I could go through one of those companies to do that stuff.
If that's their wishes, I'm perfectly okay with that.
It's just a really hard thing.
And then it made me start thinking about humans.
And if you don't have a living will and something happens to you and it's left up to your children,
can you imagine seven of your children trying to make a decision on what was going to be
done with you?
No.
And we have open conversations about that.
Like now, like we joke about it, but I'm only half joking.
They already don't agree.
Like my, I just drooled everywhere.
Like Isaac and Lincoln are so different
that they already disagree.
But going back to the dogs really quickly,
when Bear died, we were still filming for Teen Mom.
And one of the camera crew from Teen Mom
actually broke his paw prints frame and was supposed to
MTV, not MTV, the brand, but like the production company was supposed to do what they were going
to do to like get it rectified and like fix it. And I was really devastated. And that one of the people on the crew left the broken framed paw prints in the rental
car and never did anything with it, never got them back. They're gone forever. And I
don't have Bear's paw prints anymore.
So you cremated him.
Mm-hmm. I had his ashes, but I wanted the paw, like I had the paw prints framed and
those got ruined by someone on the crew
and then nothing was ever.
There's something like so special about the paw prints
to me, kind of like the stuff that your kids make
when they're in like preschool, you know,
like with their little hands.
If stuff like that ever got destroyed,
I think about people who have had house fires
and stuff like that and that kind of stuff gets destroyed. It's devastating
Yeah, no 100% and then to your point just talking about like people and stuff like my kids disagreeing
That's why I put the stuff in my living will because then they don't have a choice and also cremate me because I don't want to be
Buried anywhere. I don't want to be buried in Delaware. I don't want to be buried in Pennsylvania
I just I used to be completely against cremation, like altogether.
I remember.
And now I'm not.
I think that people are indifferent.
Where so you were born where?
What state were you born in?
In South Carolina.
You grew up between South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee, right?
Well, no, I grew up between South Carolina and Georgia.
Okay. And then you also lived in Tennessee at some point?
Well, when we were filming for the show.
Okay, so maybe you have some feelings about that. I, where would you be buried?? Would you be buried with your extended family?
Do you feel like you'd be buried in Georgia? Is any of your family buried in Georgia? What
would that look like?
No. My granddaddy actually passed away. My dad's dad passed away in ICU in an Atlanta
hospital and the funeral home came and got him and took his body back to South Carolina and he's
buried in a mausoleum there. My grandmother has, I forget what they call it, Kristen,
what is it called? It's not like a plot. It's a...
Like the little slot that you go in in the mausoleum.
It's like called something like specific.
I can't remember what it's called.
I don't remember what it's called.
And then my mom's parents actually have their spaces in the mausoleum across from my dad's
parents.
In South Carolina?
Yeah.
So they're not getting buried in Oklahoma?
No, my mom's parents are like, we're all from South Carolina.
My mom just lived in Oklahoma because that's where her husband is from.
I also don't love the idea of like turning over graveyards and grave sites like 100 like,
honestly, print some pics out, burn my body and call it a day.
It's called like a not a ricket.
That's what like pork has. What
is a plot and a... Kristen's dad is in a mausoleum. Like a crypt. Crypt is crazy. Yeah. But isn't
that kind of like sinister? Like that word? Like, well, I just like, could someone that
has access or like is an employee of the cemetery like in theory could they go in there and pull your body out?
I don't know and then I had a question after the last time you and I talked about
Graves and stuff and being buried in the ground if they have a hundred year turnover. What happens with a crypt?
That's what I'm saying. I don't know
I guess it would still be this 100 year thing
because at that point they think that the extended relatives are no longer living either.
That's true. And I mean, once a building is full, then what?
I guess they maybe build another one. That's what I'm saying. Just, just burn me up. Call
it a day.
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it was pajama gate round two. And I was like, honestly, capital
murder. So go listen to that episode because I'm going to
jail for capital murder.
I told Kristen I was like, you know what, based off of our
Google searches today alone, and the things that have come out of our mouth regarding
what's the worst felony that you could possibly get because that's what we would have received.
We're all going under. Well, so China getting our data is, you know, they've already, they already
have my Google searches, I'm sure. China hasn't convicted me. So I think I'm fine. China should be
alarmed by me. China loves us.
China, I'm on Red Note.
Have you been on Red Note?
No, I don't even know what that is.
It's the Chinese version of TikTok,
and truly it is, I love it there.
It's, TikTok is back.
We know TikTok is back.
The ban is down.
I guess it's like extended for 90 days.
I'm still posting on Red Note because I love it so much. There's four-year-olds in China
cooking. I looked at Creed, I said, do you want to cook like this? I mean, this little boy was
doing a whole cooking tutorial using tools, using utensils, all kinds of stuff. And Creed goes,
no, that's too hard. Sir, I think he's three and you're four. What do you mean it's too hard?
Yeah, but your child's an American.
No, but that's what I'm saying. And they're so friendly. They're like, now it's your turn
to learn Mandarin Chinese. And I'm like, yes, it is. So I just get on there and I scroll
and I love it. I'll be staying on Red Note.
Can I tell you some of my favorite videos to watch on TikTok? and I don't even know why I watch them. But it's like
you get sucked in. What? It's watching people make their kids
dinner plates. Oh, I love it. I love it so much. Can we start
doing those? Yes. No, I love it. Honestly, catch me in China.
I'm going there for my next year. Next year, I already have
this year's birthday planned out. but next year you guys can catch
me in China.
Kale goes to China.
It's going to be a whole series.
I'm going to China and they love when other people are interested in their culture.
They very much are excited about it from what I'm gathering from Red Note.
And I, if anyone from China would like to come on Barely Famous Podcast,
please let me know. I would love that. I'll fly to China. They do talk about ADHD in China.
ADHD in China is now like they recognize it. They have resources for it. Like this is a
big thing in China. So I don't know. I feel like I'm learning a lot about the Chinese
culture. I would be really interested to know like, I'm gonna send you this video of the little kid cooking and I'm just so, Americans could never.
Okay, you and I are both going to start doing our dinner plates.
Okay, deal.
Okay.
Mine won't be healthy, but I'll do it.
We're saying it on here because for some reason, I get sucked in and I want to know from these
creators like what they're putting on their kids' plates. it on here because for some reason I get sucked in and I want to know from these creators
like what they're putting on their kids plates.
Okay, can you just react to this in real time then?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm gonna send you do you have red note?
No.
Okay, I you might be able to open it through Safari.
Like I'm not going anywhere red note.
I'm not here to stay.
No, I'm truly here to stay.
I'm obsessed with this.
That makes me sound like such a creep,
but I just love him so much.
And I'm like, I don't know.
I just love him.
Okay, I'm sending this to your phone.
I want you to play it and I want you to react in real time.
You don't have to watch the whole thing
because it's like two minutes long,
but just watch a clip of it.
I love him so much.
He's so cute.
Like I'm the red note Dan. I don't care.
When you go to China, are you going to go to McDonald's and
see if the Big Mac tastes the same there?
Yes, of course I am.
Because that would be-
I'm writing this down.
That would be of great interest to me.
China trip.
Go to McDonald's.
McDonald's. McDonald's.
No, not me putting.
Oh my god, why is this little boy so cute?
No, I'm obsessed.
Hold on.
The length of your finger.
He's measuring rice and he's saying the amount of water that you put in needs to be.
He whips, he wisps up some eggs and pours
and he makes like this like whole it's sort of like an egg
gelatin sort of deal with like boiling water and he puts the
gloves on he has the gloves on so he can hold the hot water and
he pours it in the eggs he said whisk it up really fast
accelerate. He's like accelerate your whisking and then he puts
it over he adds the soy sauce he does the whole thing and I'm
like, I literally commented on this child's video and I was like,
I'm gonna try this with my kids.
Thank you so much.
First of all, I want him at my house.
No, can he?
Yes, I have to go visit him in China.
He can teach me how to cook.
No, I'm obsessed.
I just, I love, Red Note is so friendly and they were so welcoming to Americans.
And then they were like, we know TikTok is back,
but like, are you guys gonna stay on Red Note?
Like it was like all these Chinese creators.
I'm obsessed with them.
I love it.
Okay, so I don't know if you saw this.
Okay.
We're gonna talk about another place
outside of the United States.
It says Australian influencer accused of torturing
her one-year-old daughter in a scam
to get followers donations.
Does this feel like Scamanda?
Yes.
It says an Australian influencer has been charged
with poisoning and torturing her one-year-old daughter
in an effort to make her sick
and then leverage her illness online for donations
and social media followers.
I saw this actually now that it's starting to ring a bell and I think like their version
of like a CPS situation ended up getting involved.
Yeah.
So it says in a quote from authorities, we will do everything in our power to remove
that child from harm's way and hold any offender
accountable.
That was from a detective.
There is no excuse for harming a child, especially not one as a year old infant who is reliant
on others for care and survival.
That's so upsetting.
And I think that that comes down to me.
This is my opinion, there is a line that you can't cross
as a parent where you would do anything to make ends meet financially, right? Like I'll
sell my own body, but I'm not going to put my child in harm's way to make sure that I
can make ends meet. At the point that you're trying to be an influencer because you have
a mental
illness and you want attention and views. You are no law. I'm not looking at you as
someone who's doing anything to make ends meet. Do you know what I mean? Like you are
mentally ill.
This is like that one woman. Do you remember how she said that somebody tried to like kidnap
her child and came up with that whole scam? I think it was like in a Michael's parking
lot or something.
Remember that?
Yeah.
It was all for followers.
Sick.
It's absolutely sick.
It says that the alleged abuse began in early August, 2024
and lasted until October, 2024.
And that was according to medical staff.
It said the mother would post videos of her daughter online,
pocketing donations and gaining social media followers.
The mother had raised roughly 60,000 in Australian dollars
or about 37,000 USD.
She used GoFundMe to collect the donations.
It is alleged the content produced exploited the child
and was used to entice monetary
donations and online followers.
I hope there's prison time that's going to be issued.
I feel like this is like a full blown investigation and I feel like we will see more.
But I'm curious to know why they didn't release who the influencer was.
I thought they did. For a brief time they had her information up. This to me is like,
you don't just lose that one child, you lose all your children, in my opinion, and you should have
mental evaluations, jail time. I mean, at the point that you are able to come up with this sort of scam and
do this level of torturing, you are mentally stable enough to withstand jail, but also
get psychiatric help. I don't fuck with that at all.
I have been watching White Lotus. Have you watched it?
No. Is it a movie or what is it?
No, it's on Macs and it's a series. It's so good. I think a new season is
coming out. What is it about though? Because if it's about
hurting children, I can't it is like, I can't even tell you what
it's about. Because there is so much shit that is going on. I
just wrote it down. There's like a million crimes going on. And
each episode that involves different people from my understanding, I'm on season one, but from my
understanding from other people who have watched it, season one
cast is like one cast and then season two is a completely
different cast. I don't know what's to come for season three.
I say all of that to say it's just a really, really great show.
And I've also been watching Stranger.
And have you watched that?
No.
Or did you watch Missing You?
Remind me what Missing You is.
I feel like I watched Missing You.
I can't remember like all the details of-
Hold on.
Because I think I watched Missing You.
Hold on Netflix.
Yeah, I watched Missing You. Okay, so
oh, yeah, it was about the detective that her boyfriend was
like a runaway or whatever, because he ended up killing her
dad.
Accidentally.
Those shows have me hooked. Did you know that those Missing You
and Stranger are all based
off of books?
What books?
I don't know. But like you can do research, find out what books because...
Stranger I think I knew was on... There's a ton of stuff coming out. There were adaptations
to books and people sleep on them so much. But when I tell you guys you have to read
the books first, they're so good.
Okay, well, so you are going to be
shook at the housemaid movie that's coming out, you need to
go read the book. I know you're not a reader, but like listen to
the audio or something.
I already have my self help book from Mel Robbins that I'm going
to be reading like I
heard it's good on audio. Anybody that is like Mel Robbins or anyone that does a memoir and they narrate their
own book on audio, I've heard it's really good.
I haven't done it yet, but I've heard it's really good.
Okay, so Stranger and then Missing You.
I didn't know that was based on a book and now I watched it first.
I'm pissed that I did that.
Missing You and then White Lotus.
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All right. Let me tell Isaac because Isaac and I watched.
Oh, Isaac will absolutely love stranger because there's big parts of the storyline that follow
the teenage kids. And we know I think whenever I said I was going to China,
yeah. And I said, Would you want to go to China? And he goes,
yeah, wow, that'd be fun. I'll look into it. And I said, Are
you on red note? And he goes, Yeah, learning Chinese a little.
So the next thing you'll see him fluent in it'll be like ASL and
Mandarin Chinese. So he just said we that he didn't know that it was based on a book.
Yeah.
So I think that there's other shows also that are a part of those type of shows that are
also based off a book.
So I'll send you the name of those two I haven't watched.
But in Stranger, I'm at the part where the teenage kids uncover rat poisoning, like this girl that's kind of
like a little bit more of a outcast.
And I don't think that she has really a ton of friends.
She's supposedly sick and they see the mom
taking the trash out and throwing the trash
in the neighbor's garbage trash bin or whatever. So they get
out of the car, go to the trash bin, empty it out and there's a bunch of rat poisoning.
And so I'm at that part and I'm like any person, all of that to be said, like any person that
ever fucking harms their child or does shit like that also is giving Gypsy Rose Blanchard.
Yeah, 100%. I mean, munchausen by proxy is a real thing. And I
think that a lot of people actually suffer by suffer from
it. And nobody ever either reports it or the reports don't
get taken seriously. I think that's a real thing. I think it
it feels uncommon, because it doesn't get reported as often or
maybe they don't even realize you know what I mean?
Yeah, like it's crazy.
Well, your son's teaching or texting you
about learning what, Chinese?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, well, my son's messaging me,
telling me that he wants a fountain drink.
Not a fountain drink.
Mom, I want a fountain, M-U-M, I want a fountain drink.
M-U-M. I want a fountain drink. M-U-M?
Yeah, mom. Okay, so I saw this other article when I was
searching on Forbes this morning. And it says, What is
parental mental load managing a household is worth 3.8 trillion
in economic value a survey says.
So I follow this creator on TikTok. Her name is
Paige. And she talks about the mental load of parents and having an equal partner. And what
that actually means is like, stop asking your partner, what do you want to do for dinner? What
do you want to do for dinner? What do you want to do for dinner? Because it falls sort of almost
into the category of like, decision fatigue, where you're constantly thinking about, right?
And this is something that I think about often with my co-parent that swears that he needs to have XYZ. And
I'm like, you are sleeping on the mental load that I go through with my children is like
knowing specifically Lux and Creed, right? We'll use them as an example. It's like, which
one eats what for lunches when I pack their lunches, knowing what it is that they eat,
because they're different. And then it's not the task of packing the lunch, right? It's the, the
thought behind it. What do I need to order? What things to do that does this child eat versus this
child? Which one has this soccer practice and which one has this baseball practice? It's like,
that is the mental load is like knowing the schedule having everything planned out knowing what to get from the grocery store
It's not the actual tasks themselves, right?
because packing the lunch is easy and she talks about it all the time and how a lot of times the mental load is
It falls on the mom, right and oftentimes the the mom is the default parent
And so the dad doesn't get the big deal because the dad's like, And oftentimes the mom is the default parent. And so the dad
doesn't get the big deal because the dad's like, oh, I'll pack the lunch. It's not that
big of a deal, but it's not what goes in the, it's not packing the lunch itself. It's not
doing the laundry itself. It's all of the mental stuff. What needs to be washed? Because
I literally, I was so thankful that my kids did not have school yesterday because I was
like, this is going to give me an extra day because Lux and Creed were still with Chris. The babies were napping. Elijah and
I were able to tackle all the laundry upstairs, go through Lux and Creed's room, Lincoln's
room, get everything done. And then I said to him, make sure that we set out what's needed
for soccer and what's needed for basketball. And I have an equal partner that helps me
with those things. So it's the mental load that we're sharing and then also the actual tasks themselves.
And I think that so many times, nobody's talking about the mental part of it.
It's not the doing, it's the thinking.
I feel like for you, you are so blessed in the fact that you do have an equal partner,
right?
I think that if I had to guess and I was a betting woman,
I would bet that the majority of married
or coupled people living in the same household,
that the majority of the mental load for those tasks
are put on the woman.
No, 100%, 1000%.
Yesterday, I left the house at five o'clock to pick up the kids. On my
way out, Elijah looked at me and said, are you good with tacos tonight? Instead of asking
me what do you want to do for dinner, it's like, hey, are you okay with tacos? I said
I was thinking the same thing. Thank you. And I left. You know what I mean? That's part
of it. I don't think that anyone understands. People that don't have kids yet too, that's part of it. And I don't think that anyone understands people that don't have kids yet too,
that's something that they don't necessarily think about.
That in and of itself, I think is the hardest,
one of the harder parts of parenting.
And especially as they get older
and more things are taken on, more sports, more activities,
you know, like I was thinking to myself, okay,
Lux and Creed have basketball tonight,
and then Lux has tutoring directly
after. The mental load of making sure that not only do I have everything put together,
but that I also have his tutoring folder. Are we going to read before we go to basketball?
Are we going to read at tutoring? What does that look like? Are we going to save reading
for when we get home? Things like that, that I think just you never fucking know what the fuck is going on.
I also feel like back to you saying that he asked about tacos
or how did he position it? He was saying, are you good with
tacos tonight?
I think it's all about the positioning and the delivery of
the question too, right? It's like, when he's giving you an
option immediately upfront,
what do you think about tacos tonight?
That comes across very differently than,
hey, let me know what you want for dinner tonight,
because now you have to think.
And I don't wanna think, and he doesn't either.
When I know that he's, I mean, this morning,
he was up and out the door quicker than I was.
So I know like tonight, I could say,
or if I set stuff out on the stove before I take
the boys to basketball, he, the decision's already made.
I know when he's out doing whatever, you know, whatever job he's got to do, he doesn't want
to make that decision at the end of the night or, you know, at the end of the school day
or whatever.
He, that's the last thing that he wants to think about.
And same for you is like, especially when you're a single mom too, is like, you don't
have someone to help. You don't have the option of an equal partner. So I don't know, I don't know necessarily
what's worse not having an equal partner or just not having someone there. The decision
always falls on you.
You know what I actually think is worse? I think what is worse is having a partner that
does not understand or want to be an equal partner.
I mean, I would probably agree with that only because of my experience, being a single mom with
Isaac, being a single mom with Lux, I knew that there was no other option when it was
me with those two babies.
There was no other option.
There was no help.
So I didn't even think about the fact that like it was the mental load necessarily when you are sleeping in a bed or sleeping in a household with someone who
is not an equal partner in any way, shape or form, or they're constantly putting the
mental load on you without a care in the world.
Paige talks about that on her TikTok and I'll post her if you guys haven't seen her before.
She talks about how her and her husband were actually on the verge of divorce. They
sat down and had a conversation about the mental load and what actually was going into
the decision making and making sure that everything was running smoothly. At the point that they
had that conversation, he changed his ways and now she has an equal partner. I think
that that's so real, but I don't think that every man or every partner is ready for that
conversation.
I also think in situations like that, as a single mom, back to what you said, I don't
have another option. So it's just me. So I do have to make all of those decisions. And
I know it won't be like that forever, but I could imagine it would be more difficult
having a partner that is not equal in responsibilities
to you and wanting to tackle the task together because resentment, like the amount of resentment
that would be built by having to do all of those things on your own and having another
body there, at least I don't have to worry about somebody else.
Right.
It's like you don't have to consider what someone else might want to eat.
It's just you and Jackson and sometimes just you.
And you know, I don't know about you, but when I was a single mom, I sometimes I didn't
even think about my meals, right?
Like if my kids weren't home, I was just eating snacks or I wasn't eating at all.
So I just didn't think about it.
But I mean, there's so much to be said about the mental load.
And I think that it doesn't get talked about enough.
So when I send you her profile, I think you'll get a lot from it.
So this article says the mental load of parenting, the unseen labor involved in managing a household
with children from planning to scheduling to overseeing daily activities, which is everything
you were just saying, has long been recognized as a significant time investment for parents. A new study has quantified this invisible work,
revealing that if U.S. parents were compensated
for the mental load, it would equate
to a staggering 3.8 trillion in economic value.
It says that there was a survey that asked 2,000 parents
about the hours they spent
on different mental load activities.
The findings revealed the average parent invest about 32 hours a week in this unseen labor.
If these parents were to be compensated for their efforts at the median hourly wage in
the US, they would each earn an additional 60,000 annually.
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I believe it. I believe it because when I tell you, I mean, I never really thought about
what, I didn't think there was a name for like,
quote unquote, the mental load.
Like I didn't ever really know what that stress was.
And I could imagine, just hear me out,
for the people who don't want children,
they're thinking about stuff like this, right?
Like the people who are committed to not wanting children,
they understand this.
And I think that that is something,
like I never thought about the mental load, right? Like I never thought about making sure that I keep you
know, and it comes with experience to like trial and errors, like making sure that I
have extra clothes in my car for X, Y, and Z now leaving, I make my kids leave their
soccer cleats in my vehicle. So I'm not forgetting about them. So I don't have to think about
that one extra task. Packing snacks ahead of time and making sure
that they're already in my car so that when I don't think
about it or I forgot they're already in my car.
Things like that that we don't think about,
I didn't even know there was a name for mental load,
but truly, I mean, and it's invaluable.
Like you can't really put a price on it
and that's even low in my opinion.
But it's crazy because I also think preparation is mental load as well.
Oh, 100%.
Like you just said, yes, are you lightening your load for future?
Yes, but you had to get to a place that the mental load was so big that you had to make
sure cleat stayed in the car and like all the things, right?
Well, and so what's crazy is that over the past couple months, I noticed that, like,
for example, I have Valentine's Day candy in my car and it's been there for two weeks
because I saw it at two weeks ago and I was like, if I don't get this right now, I'll
forget.
So it's been in my car.
I went on Etsy, ordered everybody's Valentine's Day entirely too far in advance,
but I just knew that the mental load of a family of nine and then running business is
on the side. Like I, if I don't do it right now. And so just having that sort of be a
wait is, I mean, not for nothing, but like, Elisha's not thinking about like the candy
stuff and like the classroom. He's an equal partner everywhere. I just don't think he
thought he's probably not thinking right now
about Valentine's Day because it's still next month. You know
what I mean?
But I think I also have my Valentine's for Jackson's class
as well. I'm I was telling Kristen, I am prepared for
mostly nothing else in life. But a bitch will make sure that she
has her kids class Valentine's.
Wait, can I tell you what I ordered for the Valentine's
actually, because if anyone is
looking I'm big on practical. I do not. Most of the time my kids do not save their valentines.
They're going to pull the candy out. They don't care who it's from. I'm looking at
practical. So I will tell you guys what I got for and maybe it's not practical. I don't
know practical to me, I guess.
Well, I'll tell you what I got.
I got, and I felt, I hate to do candy because,
and this is why.
Number one, I don't want my kid coming home
with that much candy.
Number two, he can't really eat most of the candy
because of braces.
So that's like a whole nother issue.
Understand everybody's not in that same situation. But a mom, when I posted Jackson's class valentines, sent
me a message and said, people don't think about other children who might be allergic
to like dyes and stuff that are in the candy or diabetic children.
That's a really good point. Actually, that makes me feel bad because I did candy for I did these like
candy kebabs for Lincoln's class. I didn't think about
that. That's, you know, those little glow in the dark stars
that you stick to your walls. Yeah. We had we were in like
middle school. Yeah, it says you light up the sky and it's like a
little pack of the stars. I did those for, hold on, I did those ones for, it says which ones I did, from Creed's
class.
I did the little applesauce pouches that say you are awesome sauce for Rios.
And then I did sensory little slime cups that you can like, for looks.
See, I love those ideas because I feel like it's something different outside of just like
the mainstream. I did sports stress balls. Oh, cute. And actually, my kids love stress
balls. Isaac just was like, I have too many and he gave some to Creed and was like, you
need this. Well, I thought it was something that the kids might could keep
in their desk because they are allowed to have stuff like that.
It or something to calm them down. That's actually a really
good idea.
Yeah, so that's what we did. But what were we talking about
before?
No mental load.
I remember the mental load. So I think also, to your point, when
you said Elijah isn't thinking about like class valentines, but it doesn't
not look him an equal partner.
I think a lot of times people get confused with what equal partner means.
And to me, equal partner is I might not be the best at X, Y, and Z, but my partner is.
So they do those things and I take care of the other things that they're not the best at.
Yeah, or like I got the Valentines,
he wasn't really thinking about those,
but he was thinking about all the things
that the kids needed, you know, wash their backpacks,
make sure their sports bags are packed,
like stuff like that.
So I don't mind taking on the Valentines.
I also don't even know if they're doing Valentines
at school, but I ordered just to be proactive.
So whatever.
Can we just briefly, just like a second, talk about how often we wash our kids' backpacks?
Well, I didn't really start doing it until you talked about it, but I noticed that, let
me just say this, and I should stay on top of it even more, is that when I wash them,
they last a lot longer or
I could reuse them and pass them down to the other kids.
And so that's when you started talking about that.
I was like, okay, I can do this.
And so that and winter coats, the more I wash them, the more they don't get like the stains
that don't come out.
And so I'm able to pass them down.
But I have a question for you.
I have a girlfriend who she has twin daughters and she cleaned these
cleats, like soccer cleats. And I was like, Oh my God, they look literally brand new. Like not the,
you could tell they were scrubbed and cleaned brand new. They looked brand new.
But she told me what she used. And I was like, okay, because the cleats thing, I used to just
donate them. But now that I have so many kids, I'm like, okay, no, we need to save them, pass them
down kind of thing. She said that she heard to put cleats in the dishwasher. Does
that work?
So I've never actually put cleats in a dishwasher. So I cannot confirm. Okay. I am big on using
a magic eraser on shoes. Okay, she let me see what she said she used. But I was like,
oh, I mean, I might just pay her a couple bucks to do them. But I was like, Oh, I mean, I
might just pay her a couple bucks to do them. Because I'm
like, I don't know what's going on here. But these are
also if you have not bought the Lysol sanitizing stuff, whatever
like grocery store, I think you can get it on Amazon to put in
your kids school clothes. Like I use sanitizer as an additive to my detergent
and stuff on all of Jackson's stuff that comes home from school.
Okay. Is it a spray?
No. It's very, very liquidy. It's more water-like. I saw it actually on a TikTok,
I think last year and
it was talking about like cold and flu season and how that
additive was basically like a disinfectant in the washing
machine.
Can you send me that just so I can remember? We went through
the boys rooms over the weekend to like just do all the things
and I just can't get over it. Like boys are so messy.
Did you find a bunch of rappers to shit
that didn't belong like in rooms?
Specifically, Lincolns.
Specifically, Jacksons.
And my kids are blanket kids.
I'm also a blanket girly.
I love blankets.
I love throw blankets.
I have one for every occasion.
So I had to order blanket, like throw blanket racks for my kids rooms because they have so many.
And I'm like, I just like, where do you guys, do you think you're going to sleep with all of them?
Lincoln has been sleeping with like four throw blankets on his bed. And I'm like,
how do you even sleep well with all of these? Or Jackson and Lincoln, like the same person.
They have to be. And then Lux and Jackson are the same
because Lux sleeps with a hundred stuffed animals on his bed.
And I'm like, what are we doing?
I've been doing a bunch of purging around here
and just a little brief followup.
You know how I was like talking so much shit
about comforters the other day?
And I said, nobody even makes them anymore.
Like I haven't seen in the beat Well, you ate your words. Did because I started thinking about the duvet.
And then I went on TikTok to find how to put on a duvet like the best way. If that's what
I look like when I'm putting on a duvet cover, I don't need to be doing it because that's absolutely embarrassing, appalling.
So I went and bought comforters
for all of my rooms from Target.
It's the best thing you could do.
It's the best thing.
And I think that you're gonna be very happy
with your decision.
We're just out here helping each other in this mom life.
Truly taking care of the mental load
one girly at a time.
1000%. Okay, my friend text me back and she said, Don dish soap and a scrub brush in the sink.
But she puts oxy clean the soles and scrub the inside to use hot microwaved water with
some bleach and drop the shoelaces. Okay, well that bitch knows how to clean because
that's some shit that my nanny would do. Lindsay said, quote, that bitch knows how to clean because that's some shit that my nanny would do. Lindsay said, quote, that bitch knows how to clean. She's like,
what?
Darn dish soap for everything. She's like, clean oil off of a
duck's back, then it can clean everything in your house.
Also, if your dogs or your cats have fleas, put a collar of dawn
dish soap when you're
washing you so they don't travel up to their eyes and stuff.
Are we just like puppy combos knows everything?
Ticks and tricks, ticks and tricks.
Tips and tricks for everybody.
I cannot.
We have a listener submission that says,
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gift. Any suggestions? What would you do scared mama here?
Absolutely understand the franticness of your child going on a solo trip. I don't know that
I would be okay with this just based off of where we are in this world.
I don't even feel comfortable going on a solo trip myself, so I'm probably not the best
person to ask, but eventually they have to go.
I think you could-
What's the word for going?
That's what I was about to say because from my understanding, and do not quote me on this,
I think Costa Rica is a pretty peaceful and safe place.
Surely there are other countries and other places that they, I mean, she said a solo trip, that could be Florida.
You know, we don't know.
I think just doing your due diligence
and looking for where to go.
Also, could it be an option, just an idea here,
that it's solo in that you go and you stay in a different room, but
you're in the vicinity and you're not maybe in her business as much, but you're also there
for the sole fact that she is your daughter and you want to make sure that she's safe.
Maybe you get a different room or maybe you're at the hotel next door.
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And also there was another situation where a woman,
a young woman, a teenage girl or
a young girl was in Myrtle Beach and went missing.
I don't know if you ever heard that case where, I mean, they never found her and it was said
that she potentially was thrown to the alligators, like her body, her cover up was thrown to
the alligators.
What?
Yeah, hold on.
Again, this world is crazy.
What would possess somebody to throw a body?
Brittany Drexel on the night of April 25th, 2009, 17-year-old Brittany Drexel of Chile,
New York, United States left a hotel in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, where she had been
staying with friends for spring break.
She walked to another hotel a short distance away and from there texted her boyfriend saying that she was heading back to her hotel, but
that was the last that she had been seen alive. And so they have never found her to my knowledge.
Disappearance around 8 p.m. investigation. Timothy Taylor was allegations. I don't know
who this was. I don't know the full story. You guys
can look it up. Her name is Brittany Drexel. To my knowledge, okay, this says that in early May 2022,
Raymond Moody, a registered sex offender, turned himself in. He was the first person of interest.
I don't know if what came of this. So look it up, but that's something that, you know,
you never planned for, you know,
like your child going missing.
So I think just being there could be helpful.
Also, is it like a full blown solo trip?
Because I also would feel more comfortable
with like a best friend being in attendance.
So it's like a buddy system situation.
A girl traveling alone anywhere at 18, I feel like is just a risk.
I went to Mexico for my 14th birthday with a family that I was living with. Shout out
to Ariel Boyle's family. Thank you, Maggie. I still love you. We were in a joint hotel room at the Mayan Palace in Riviera Maya, and it was like a
joint situation.
We were young.
We were 14.
So 14 is very different than 18.
But the door closed between her parents and us, and we did whatever we wanted on that
resort with no adult.
Looking back, I think it was a different time. I also think that maybe we shouldn't have been doing,
like I don't know.
That is an option.
I mean, I feel like we felt like we were cool.
We felt like we were, you know,
sort of given the freedom that we wanted.
We didn't really get into a whole lot of trouble
except for one day.
And then, you know, I don't know. I feel whole lot of trouble except for one day and then
you know, I don't know, I feel like that could be the best of both worlds. It's like, you're
there for solely for the safety of your child.
I 1000% agree. I wanted to get your thoughts on this other listener that wrote in she said,
I just spiraled out of nowhere. I saw this on the Facebook group. She said, My daughter
told me that she loves her dad
and not me and I lost it.
Got upset and started crying and asked her why she's so mean.
Why would she say that?
She's three and a half and could possibly not mean it,
but I have bent over backwards for my girls.
I try to have meaningful moments with them.
I take time away from my phone.
I have one-on-one.
I try to make time,
I try to make our time intimate and full of love
I did not have a good relationship with my mother and I felt rejected a lot now
I feel rejected by my daughter and I don't know how to deal. I think that there's a lot going on here
I feel like possibly the abandonment issues that this person is dealing with from rejection from her mother
Now she's dealing with abandonment
issues possibly from feeling rejected from her daughter.
I also think that sometimes toddlers will say things like that. I don't know what the
situation is here. Are you and your daughter's father together? Are you not together? Do
you hold her accountable for things that she doesn't want to do or
mistakes that she's made? What is the dynamic between you and her father? I think that's
all going to play a part. And I think that kids absorb way more than we give them credit
for.
All my kids are different. And so far, not all my kids have told me they hate me or not
all my kids have had this shared,
you know, this, but some of them have.
And actually only one of them, oh, two of them.
And a lot of it comes from, in my experience, is the turmoil between mom and dad.
So I think that could play a factor if you're not with your daughter's dad.
But also, I don't know
why kids do what they do.
How did you deal with that when it happened to you?
I don't want to say I ignored it, but it was more of like a, well, I'm sorry that you feel
that way. I love you no matter what kind of deal.
That's really big of you to do that. I think that it's devastating in the moment if a child
would ever tell their parent that. It has never happened to me. So I really, I think that it's devastating in the moment if a child would ever tell their
parent that. It has never happened to me. So I really, I can't relate, but I can sympathize.
I also think that a lot of times when you're dealing with a co-parenting situation, which
I'm kind of feeling like might be what's going on here, that we hear the term like
Disney dads, and then you have the moms that have the majority of custody. And I know that's not all cases. But moms who do have majority of custody and have to take care of all of the daily activities and routines. And then you have a dad that is very much a Disney dad do whatever you want. I think that it confuses a young child's mind.
I just wanna know too, like where this child has heard that
where like in my experience specifically,
my child knows and has heard
whether it was to them directly or not,
things said about me.
So they're absorbing that and then they come over
and they're mad at something I did. And then that's how they, you know, the child reacts. So it're absorbing that and then they come over and they're mad at something I did.
And then that's how the child reacts. So it could be that. If that's not the case and this person
is not dealing with a co-parenting situation, I think that play therapy is a great option.
Unfortunately, for Delaware, there are not many resources for play therapy here. I know
I got the idea from you, Lindsay, to look into play therapy. They're
very few and far between. They're usually booked up and it's not sort of like the resources
that you have. But depending on where this person lives, I think that could be a really
great option too, because from what I've read, and I don't know how true this is, but I've
read something that said you have from zero to eight to mold your children into who they're
going to be as adults.
Obviously trauma and things like that later on will impact them.
But zero to eight is that subconscious mind kind of deal where you're setting the tone
before they even realize what's going on.
Where after eight years old, they sort of know more what's going on.
They make conscious decisions.
They're basing their decisions off of how they grew up from zero to eight. Maybe try play therapy to kind of get them, get your daughter together.
She doesn't know really what's going on or what she's saying, or maybe she doesn't even
know what the word hate means.
Well, and a lot of times when you bring certain situations to a play therapist as the parent
to just notify the therapist of things that you've seen at home or encounters
that you've had. There are ways that they can play with them through those types of
situations or put the play at play for something like that similar to come up in a way. And
it helps them be able to talk through it. I actually had a conversation with Jackson
last weekend. I said, you ever like think about your play therapist? And he said, Yeah,
I think about her sometimes like she was such a nice lady. And I loved that she was in my
life, but I don't need it anymore. So big. And I said, Did you enjoy going to play therapy?
And he said, Yeah, it was really fun. and I got to do my feelings while I was having fun and see he knows but he also I mean
The idea for therapy as adult is like the idea is for you to like not need it anymore
You learn the tools to not need it or maybe for a short time
You don't need it right like the same thing for Jackson is like
He needed it while he needed it and then he didn't need it anymore. So I mean, that's the goal.
Oh, graduated.
Yeah.
I just wish that we had more resources like that because we just don't.
But if anybody has any questions about play therapy and you want to message me or message
into the Facebook group and start a thread, I would be happy to share our experience personally.
And on that note, we have foul play.
Oh, this is a long one. Okay. Well, I don't know if this is a foul play. But as I'm sitting in the
ER right now, my first thought was that I needed to share this with you ladies. So as I sit here
waiting for the doctor to come in and stick that speculum into my vagina to make sure I have no
parts from the toy lodged inside of me. I thought I'd start
letting you girls in on what sent me to the ER. So my husband and I are separated. I'm finally
getting to a point where I'm needing some D in my life, but I'm not going and taking the kitty out
on a walk to play. So I decided to buy myself a new toy. We love that for you. Now this toy has a dick on one
end and also a flappy thing attached on the inside of the
dick that's supposed to hit your G spot and on the other end it curves and is a mouth
with the tongue to hit the clip.
Wow.
Listen, that is like a super soaker.
Not a super soaker.
Well after some much needed O time, I went to pull the toy out of me and it wouldn't it wouldn't fucking come out it was stuck inside of
me. I didn't know what to do I slid out of my bed the best way
I could being that I had a mouth and a dildo hanging out of my
vagina. I grabbed the flashlight and a mirror and squatted over
the toilet lid but I couldn't see what was going on because
this red dildo was in my way. So I walked back to my room and
slowly climbed back up onto my bed,
laid on my back and pulled my legs back,
like I was having a baby so I could try to get my fingers in there
and feel what was going on.
As I began to feel around, my inner skin was wrapped around the inside of the toy
where the flapper was.
Don't ask me how it happened.
So here I am on my bed trying to gently pull this toy out of me,
but my skin is literally stuck in it and I'm scared to death. I have no one to call to come look
at the situation and try to help me pull it out so I immediately knew what I was going
to have to do. I slowly got myself dressed while holding this toy between my legs, put
my shoes on and slowly and painfully slid into my car and drove myself to the ER. No,
because the way that I would call 911 to put me on a stretcher, how do you even drive with this?
Okay, she says, I'm slowly walking into the ER
with this dildo hanging out of me and bulging out of my pain.
The lady at the desk says, what's wrong with you tonight?
And I ask her, well, have you ever seen this TV show,
Sex Sent Me to the ER?
She immediately calls the nurse,
and I'm crying at this point
because I'm so mortified and realize the story that I'm about to tell these doctors and what
they're about to see as I laid down on this bed. But as I'm standing there talking to
her, I feel the dildo falls out of me and into my pants. She takes me back to the room.
We go into the bathroom. It did fall out and was just laying there in my pants. I looked
over at her and start laughing and crying at the same time. So now here I sit waiting to be examined to make sure everything
is okay down there and that there are no foreign objects remaining inside of me. Update everything
was fine. All objects had fallen out.
Okay. So in this situation, number one, I'm calling my husband that I'm separated from.
Immediately calling. Like I don't care if you have a wife at this point like are like a
new girlfriend you
become help.
So now I had to do this. Now I'm laid up and I need help. That's number one. Number two,
I feel like possibly wearing a dress would have been like a better option than pants. Mortifying. I feel like what happened was maybe like her vagina
just like squeezed like real tight.
And then once she got like a little bit more relaxed,
it was just like.
Right.
You know?
No, I agree.
I agree with you.
You have that toy?
No, I don't have that toy.
That toy is not in my inventory.
My repertoire. My eclectic collection.
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