Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - The Messy Ones Know Best

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

EP257: Lindsie makes a statement regarding her parent's sentencing. Moving on to happier topics, Lindsie and Kail are completely into the idea of a Mean Girls sequel. They also admit to never followin...g the White Elephant/Secret Santa money limit and explain why. Lindsie is fully committed to Grey's Anatomy, especially the iconic quote they're dropping, which brings up the conversation to messy people knowing the best. Kail agrees and shares about the several comments made against her about giving advice. And for Foul Play, we have four words-....Tip of the dick!   Thank you to our sponsors! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month Best Fiends: Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play Chime: Get started at chime.com/convos Green Chef: Visit GreenChef.com/convos599 and use code convos599 to get $5.99 per meal on your 1st box—and your 1st box ships free Kiwico: Get your first month of ANY crate line FREE at kiwico.com/COFFEE Mrs.Fields: Get 25% off site-wide when you visit mrsfields.com/coffee Skylight: Get $15 off a Skylight Frame with promo code COFFEE at SkylightFrame.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say, thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship,
Starting point is 00:00:16 family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Hello, coffee combos. Good morning, kitty gang. You know what I wanted to start this episode with? And then I just lost train of my thoughts.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I was going to be like, hey, Kale, and you were going to be like, hey, what? I'm going to be like, are you ready? To what? To jig. Jig what? Jigaloo, my hands up, high, my feet down low, and that's the way I jiggle low.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Jig, aloo, jig, jig, aloo. Do you remember that from high school? Is that a cheer? Yeah, do you remember that from high school? No, I don't remember that cheer. I don't remember that cheer at all. Well, good morning. Are you ready to jig?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Good morning. Yeah, I'm ready to jig. It's pouring rain outside, and I thought that I was going to get ready and look cute, because Lincoln has his chorus concert tonight. And it's just pouring rain. So I started camera on, and then I was like, you know what? I'm going to go camera off and get ready later.
Starting point is 00:01:21 OK, first of all, what the heck is a chorus concert? Is he in chorus? Yes, it's elementary school. What do you mean? Like they all sang in the deaf? Yes, they did. What? Did Jackson not have them in, well,
Starting point is 00:01:40 he's the same age as Lincoln. Is he in third or fourth grade? He's in third grade, but like. Yes, I was Lincoln. So they don't do chorus concerts? I feel like the last time they ever did a school sing thing was in kindergarten, and that was the last time I've never been to one.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So I certainly hope my child's not up there singing, and I'm not attending. Do you remember back when we were in school, when you got the notes sent home where your parents had to buy their recorder? No, we didn't have to buy ours, because we just got them. We didn't have to buy them. Like they just gave them to us.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Your school district must have been rich. We just were really small. The population of the town was 4,000, so it was so small. We had to buy ours, and I was so terrified of losing it if I wasn't going to have it for the performance. It was a big deal. And then you performed for your parents for Christmas, and you were really shy about it,
Starting point is 00:02:42 because you were really afraid to fuck up. It's a big deal. I didn't even learn the songs on it. I just pretended. You've been a bamboozler for a while. I just have never, even when I played the trumpet in sixth grade, if I didn't know the song, I just pretended. But at least the trumpet, I knew some of them,
Starting point is 00:03:03 but the recorder, no, I was a lost fucking cause. Oh my god, man. What have you been doing this morning? Well, I was turning it ready, and then I didn't. I ate some chicken minis from Chick-fil-A, and I got Starbucks. And now we're here. That is such a good morning. When you get to get Chick-fil-A, I'm going to say Ann Duncan,
Starting point is 00:03:26 but you're going to be like Chick-fil-A and Starbucks. That is a great freaking morning. I woke up, managed to shower, and watched a little bit of Grey's Anatomy while I did some work prep. And I'm telling you, Kristen and I talked about it on the Southern Tea, so I don't really want to get too much into it. But y'all are on to something with Grey's,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and I just wanted to give a special thanks to you, where everybody hears my gratefulness. I just love it. I'm still watching, and I just don't know what I'm going to do when it's not on anymore. Because Meredith just announced her leaving the show. You're just going to re-watch what you've already watched. Literally.
Starting point is 00:04:13 No, I'm telling you. OK, so I had on my watch list. I forget what the name of the show or the series is about the Texas, whatever. Have you seen that? The Texas. It like popped up on my Netflix thing. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, the Texas killing thing. Yeah, so I haven't started it, but I want to watch it. I have it on my watch list. I have also not started it, but I will tell you, I'm hearing a lot of mixed reviews on it. So be interested to watch that. I just finished the KC Anthony doc last night. Can't wait to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Just not going to be on this episode. And also, I want to watch where the Crawl Dad's saying. Have you seen it? I have not. I have not. That nothing sounds good about that to me. I definitely want to watch the Texas killing thing. And then I started the KC Anthony documentary series
Starting point is 00:05:06 last night. I had to use my friend Morgan's login because I don't have peacock. And I literally didn't even finish a full episode yet. And I'm already horrified. I have a lot of thoughts on it, but I'm not going to tell you guys about those thoughts because I have other shit to do today.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But we'll be talking about it in the coming episodes. Outside of that, I've just been stressing over here, considering the fact that I've bought three Christmas presents in total. And yeah, I was much more prepared last year than I was this year. Have you heard of Amazon? Yeah, I literally had Kristen put on my calendar
Starting point is 00:05:46 to buy Christmas presents. It's like an event. Yeah, it sounds like it. I haven't been buying Christmas presents, obviously, but I have been taking advantage of when I see things on sale that I know the boys want or need. Lincoln asked for, could I get him a vest? Wait, what, like a puffer?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah, like a North Face puffer. But you know what? I'm having a really hard time finding anything in his size because he wants to be a cool kid. He's a cool kid. He is a cool kid, but he wants to be cool. And he wants Nike tech outfits. Do you know I've checked every single fucking store that
Starting point is 00:06:27 sells Nike tech, and they do not have his size? They have Creed and Lux's size, and then they have Isaac's size, but they do not have Lincoln's size. I go on dicks. I find the North Face puffer jackets. Not puffer jackets, puffer vests, two colors. I send him a text. Hey, which one do you like?
Starting point is 00:06:45 He liked the black one. Black one doesn't come in his size. And then the shoes, he asked for one pair of shoes. Go to find them. Can't find them in his size. Let me tell you. Jackson is not really into fashion. He is into jerseys and Jordans.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's it. Oh, that sounds like Lincoln. That's fashion for Lincoln. Absolutely love it. It's their fashion. But I haven't run into a size issue yet. So that's very, very interesting. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it's just
Starting point is 00:07:18 Lincoln's freaking size. And I feel so bad because Lincoln doesn't ask me for much. And when it's clothes and shoes, if I can do it, I'm going to do it, especially because they grow so freaking fast. And he passes everything that doesn't fit him to Lux because they have similar styles. So I don't mind getting those things for him
Starting point is 00:07:40 and it just sucks because I'm like, hey, which one do you like? And now I'm having to check the sizes before I even ask him because poor thing can't get anything in his same size. Let me tell you, if my son ever came down these stairs and said, mom, buy me a puffer vest, I'd be like, go to bed. Go to bed.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, I don't have time to entertain this fashion, OK? Like, I really do not have time for it. Before we really get into the fun things that we want to talk about, I had been sitting pretty quiet regarding all of my family stuff, my parents sentencing, and wanted to just take a moment to address that stuff and then move on to happier things.
Starting point is 00:08:33 This is not my favorite thing to ever do. Quite frankly, it makes me feel like I want to shit my pants and just don't love it. But I did want to take a minute to thank everyone. There's been so many listeners from our community that have reached out to me in the past few weeks regarding my family. And I have regularly talked about wanting
Starting point is 00:09:00 to take a step back to process everything before speaking and making any statements. And I know that you can really relate to me on that. I've thought and thought more and then rethought about it again. And after thinking about it, Coffee Combos truly is some of my biggest supporters. And I love this community that we have created jointly.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So it made sense for me to make the official statement here. The past few months have been extremely hard for me and my family. I am heartbroken over the updates in my parents' case that occurred late last month. And I know some of the media tried their best to twist my response to this and make it something that it's not, but that's what the media likes to do.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And at the end of the day, there truly is no T. I'm heartbroken. I'm navigating this process the best way I know how as a mother, as a sister, as a daughter, and as a friend. And at the end of the day, this is a real family. And it's my family. And these are real and raw emotions.
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Starting point is 00:11:37 at betterhelp.com slash coffee. That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash coffee. And with all of that being said, there's also been some other really hurtful interviews and incidents over the past few weeks that I wanted to address further while we're on the topic. One of these things is, as you guys know, Facebook, you tend to be, for me, and I don't know,
Starting point is 00:12:06 Kale, about how yours is. But on my personal Facebook, I'm friends with anyone from high school, anyone that I've known pretty much my whole life, or my parents' acquaintances or friends from high school or people who know us from our hometown. I think that's more the Facebook community that I have. Like, you know them, like, you know them.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah. And so. Yeah, the same. I don't add anyone I don't know on Facebook. Yeah. I mean, mine's just kind of like, I think I've got 2,000 friends or something on there. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But it's pretty much like, if I don't know that person directly, we had a ton of mutual friends in common that I knew that my parents had to have known them in high school. And I had been scrolling on Facebook over the weekend and ran across this Facebook post. And it was a Photoshopped picture of my dad and the Tiger King. And it was sexually suggestive and also
Starting point is 00:13:16 making fun of prison and incarceration. And when I saw it, you have to understand, I'm taking these things very personally because it is my family. And that is my dad. And I think that it was very just foul and tasteless and just a complete lack of cooth for anyone to go out and post something like that.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's dehumanizing. And to know that somebody did this that went to high school with my dad and with my mom and makes me wonder, was this person a bully to one of my parents in high school? I have absolutely no idea. But what was even more disheartening was a church that I regularly attended growing up,
Starting point is 00:14:14 their Vacation Bible schools, whatever, a deacon in the church had gone on there. And you know how you can do those reactions on Facebook? Yes. Can I just stop you right there? What is a deacon? So it's someone, a leader in a church. And in my opinion, if you are, it's a voted position.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And so if you are holding a position in a church, I feel that it is fair to say that you're OK with being held accountable at a higher standard than anyone else. The congregation is voting you to that position. And I go on, because I'm being so nosy at this point, and it's got 14 reactions on there. So I'm like, OK, let me find out who this person knows and how I would know them.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And I see this name of this person that I know that has attended a church that I attended as a child and knew that this person knew my dad's family and was laughing at this. And I'm like, OK, that's just horrible. And then it brought really bad thoughts, because I'm like, OK, that's the type of people that actually bring Christians bad names, because you're out here
Starting point is 00:15:42 being a holy roller on Sunday, and you're being a leader in a church on a Sunday and probably Wednesday nights, but then yet you're out here reacting on Facebook to something like this. It's just, it's foul. So that to me was just really disheartening, and I did call the person out. I am human, and when I saw it, it made me very sad,
Starting point is 00:16:08 but more so sad for them, because any person that would do something like that, it's a them problem, not what they're posting problem. I'm sad, because I feel like that's to your point, you hold them to a higher standard of being held accountable. And it's just such, I'm actually going through something similar, going to church and being held, you're a deacon. So what the hell are you doing going against everything
Starting point is 00:16:39 that you supposedly stand for? Well, it's hypocrisy at its finest, and that's what I said. And I'm not going to go out here and say, I'm a perfect Christian, because absolutely I'm not, but I'm also not preaching that I am. Right, exactly. And that's the thing, don't use your Christianity as your whole personality, and then turn around
Starting point is 00:16:58 and go against everything that you supposedly stand for. That's just not, you are giving Christians a bad name, you're putting a bad taste in people's mouth, who you could have brought to the church, you are making the ones that attend your church, and look up to you, you're making them. You know what I mean? Just look dumb.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Well, absolutely. And so that was one thing that happened, and people are going to post, and people are going to say, and do whatever they want to do. And unfortunately, we don't have control of that. None of us have control of that, even if you aren't in the public eye, and you're having a local dispute. I mean, people are going to post and put whatever
Starting point is 00:17:38 they want to on Facebook. That's just the name of the game, and I understand that. But another incident that happened to me was the day after my parents' sentencing, I went to dinner with Jackson, my friend Callie and Bo, and their two kids, and we were all in a big booth at a local pizza place. And this situation, Kale, when I tell you,
Starting point is 00:18:05 have you ever been in a situation where your heart just feels like it drops through your butthole? Yes. There's a lump in your throat? Yes, 100%. So our booth, our large booth, was facing their large booth. So they're across from each other. And this woman is literally talking
Starting point is 00:18:23 about my parents' sentencing and the importance of paying taxes. And I mean, she's being loud. And you can hear literally the entire conversation. And so I'm sitting there. Obviously, I hear it. My girlfriend hears it. And so she calls her out. And she's like, could you not?
Starting point is 00:18:47 And I'm sitting there. I make eye contact with her. She looks, this woman looks at her husband. And she's like, oh, well, that's one of them talking about me. And so at this point, I just kind of like hang my head because I'm not going to engage like this. My parents were just sentenced the day before. And I'm absolutely heartbroken and devastated.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm just trying to go and get pizza and take my kid to a place where he could go and play games and it be like a quiet little private place, just like a local little restaurant, right? So she kind of gets in this. I wouldn't say it was like really a spat, but it wasn't like not a spat with my girlfriend. And my girlfriend's like, that would probably
Starting point is 00:19:32 be a conversation for you to have maybe like in your home or in your personal car, but at a restaurant sitting here and you've identified that you're talking about someone whose parents were just sentenced yesterday and they're sitting here, it's just rude and completely uncalled for. This is a public place. And so they kind of went out it for a few minutes
Starting point is 00:19:56 and I finally just picked my head up and I said, if you please would just like save the conversation for somewhere else because I am their child. We're a real family and this is their grandchild that's sitting right here. And I will say when she got up to leave, she tapped me on my shoulder. She did apologize for doing it, but I
Starting point is 00:20:19 think the lack of self-awareness that we deal with and I've been guilty of being self-aware in certain situations. But through this, I have definitely learned like there is a time and a place or everything and those types of situations should never happen and when children are involved, even more so shouldn't be happening. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah, I mean, that definitely even opens my eyes because I'm sure that I've also not been self-aware. Like just in things that you say around, you don't know who's around, you don't know who's watching or listening or can hear you and not trying to listen. I'm definitely guilty of not always being aware. So that even opens my eyes. And I will say, again, the woman did apologize
Starting point is 00:21:07 and I think that it was a conversation that she was having at her table, not realizing that I was there, but again, read a room. Right. Know where you are. Know you're in a local pizza place in an open booth and that everybody can hear your entire conversation. So like probably not the venue.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And the last thing I'm going to say on all of this is, and this is last, but certainly not least, I wanted to touch on the story that gained a ton of traction earlier this week regarding my niece and her biological mother. Chloe has been legally adopted by my parents. Her biological mother, Angela, went to a tabloid and gave her whole spiel on everything.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And as much as I can sympathize with her as a mother, and I look at the situation as a collective whole. I look at Chloe having biological parents and having adoptive parents and mental health and the situation with my parents sentencing and all of these things. I'm looking at that. I can sympathize with her as a mother.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I don't understand the situation, because I have not been in her situation. So for me to say I understand something that I have not been in would be wrong and misleading. But at the same time, I very much can sympathize with her. Basically, the story was that she wanted Chloe to be returned in her term's home. And Chloe is home.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And I want to make that very clear. Chloe has been with my parents roughly since she was six months old. Medical records, school records, court documents will prove this. That's not Angela's word, my word, or their word, but that is the truth. Her first birthday party was broadcast on national TV.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And it's very disheartening when you see things that are being said that are just so blatantly false. I do understand wants, desires, and needs. But we do have to take a step back as adults and as parents and look at what is best for a child and not for us. And I know that you can relate to that as well going through custody situations that sometimes the things
Starting point is 00:23:52 that you want, and you and I've had this conversation on coffee combos before, that sometimes the things that you want and desire look very different than what is in the best interest of the child. And that was the advice that I was given by my family attorney through my divorce process, as well as my son's therapist, that you always need to look at what's best for the child
Starting point is 00:24:14 and not what is best for you. That same thing is going to apply in this situation. Exposing this situation to the media regarding a minor child is mind blowing to me. My parents have always had phones, still have phones, and they have an open line. They also have open and public social media. And to my knowledge, there has been
Starting point is 00:24:43 no attempt of communication outside of the direct communication with the media. I encourage that she reach out if she have any concerns, but don't further dehumanize the situation by using the media to support your false narrative. I can assure you that my family's attorneys are very versed on what can and cannot happen. They have Chloe's best interest at heart
Starting point is 00:25:13 and know the law, adoption laws, and what it means when a parent terminates their rights voluntarily. I would also like to say, when we're talking about transitions, when it comes time for my parents to report, that as a mother, you have to look at transitions and minimizing those. And the most minimal transition would be for Chloe to stay in her same location
Starting point is 00:25:46 with her same therapist, with the people that she knows around a support system that she has known and grown up with. She has great grandparents that are heavily involved with her, that are going to support my sister through the process. Julie's parents are very involved with Chloe. And my nanny is also very involved with her. And so I think to remove her from the situation
Starting point is 00:26:17 and where she is now, looking at all of the things collectively, would be so many transitions for her that she would not be able to cope. And for those reasons, I'm speaking as a mother. I don't feel that that would be in Chloe's best interest. I have had no communication with Kyle in many years. However, I have been told that he works nights and sleeps days.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I'm proud that he is on the right track, stable and employed. With that being said, I also feel certain that the best way to deal with any concerns regarding Chloe would be best handled privately with my parents, whom are also her parents. At the end of the day, my family and myself love Chloe so much. And with everything going on, the fact that people are trying to rip her from the life
Starting point is 00:27:05 that she knows for selfish reasons is not only disgusting, but making the situation even more heartbreaking. And with all of that being said, entire situation is sad. Entire situation is heartbreaking. Entire situation is uncertain. But I do think every single person that loves us, supports us, and prays for us.
Starting point is 00:27:29 We feel the prayers. I know that I personally do. And it means the world to me, and I can also say that it means the world to my family. And we're going to be here. You know that you have so much love and support from this community. I know you aren't praying, but you're manifesting.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yes, yes. You are correct. You are correct. OK, so one thing this holiday season, that's making everything easier between Christmas concerts at school. Isaac just joined drama club is we have so much going on still that GreenChef has made it super easy and simple
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Starting point is 00:28:24 easy. And that's really nice, because I have done keto. And I know a lot of our listeners have tried it as well. And so treat yourself to delicious premium recipes that support your wellness. I know Lindsay has used GreenChef. We've actually been talking about them for probably forever.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Four years, five years. Yeah, forever. I absolutely love GreenChef. I was actually just looking at their weekly menu, and they have such good stuff on there this week. A couple of things that I'm going to order is the Middle Eastern style beef bowls, the pork with balsamic fig sauce, and they also
Starting point is 00:28:57 have a steak and butternut squash salad. I absolutely love their meals. They're not super plain. And I feel like I get to try things that I normally wouldn't make or buy the ingredients to get from the store myself. So that's something that I love. They have pre-measured sauces, dressings, and spices
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Starting point is 00:31:19 OK, deal. Did you hear about the potential Mean Girls reboot? No, I did not. But I absolutely love Mean Girls, so tell me everything you know about it. So I saw it came up on my news feed, and it said Amanda Seyfried and Lindsay Lohan are down for a Mean Girls sequel.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But it's all in Tina Fey's hands now. That's directly from Pop Sugar. It says Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Seyfried both want a Mean Girls sequel. That would be really fun, and that's in quotes. And I love that Lindsay Lohan is she, you know, she she lost her way a little bit for a while, and she's kind of coming back.
Starting point is 00:31:54 She did that. I think she did a Christmas movie on Netflix. First of all, I am so here for a Mean Girls remake. Like, I probably watch that movie. I'm embarrassed to even sit, like, to even try to calculate how many times. And I still quote it to this day. Oh, you have to.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It's a classic. Like, it is a classic. When I worked at Pet Smart Grooming Salon back in Jesus, 2013, I actually, Amanda Seyfried and her mom would bring their dogs to Pet Smart Grooming. And you absolutely loved every bit of it? Every bit of it. And I had to literally swallow my spit, really.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Like, I was, like, gulping because I was, like, fangirling so hard. And I'm, like, just trying my best. Like, because you don't say anything to them. And I never said anything to them. I think my manager at the time did her, I don't know if it was her dog or her mom's dog. But yeah, she, because she's from Allentown.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And we lived there for some time. So I, and I love, you know, what is it called? A redemption story? What is it, you know, when someone makes a comeback, a good comeback for Lindsay Lohan. You know, she's, she looks good. I didn't watch the movie. That's, I think it's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I haven't watched it. But I've heard that she's kind of, you know, trying to make her way back. And I love that for her. I absolutely love that for her as well. Also, could you imagine just last thing on this? If we had a burn book and like, what would be in it? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:33:24 What would, burn books are like, you can literally find ones on Etsy. Like you can find, you can find like, You fuggly slut. You, yeah, she is a fuggly. I know the entire rap by Kevin Appour. And I just, Wait, it's almost Christmas time.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Wrap it for us. No. Now be Johnny on the spot. Let's go. I'm going to, I'm going to put it on tonight and I'll sing it with you. I'll take a reel. You swear.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I swear. And then we'll put, I'll post it on my Instagram on Thursday. Okay. Perfect. Sounds good. Love that for you. We had a listener from our Facebook group ask for ideas for white elephant gifts, said that the max would be like
Starting point is 00:34:13 40 to $50 range, first time doing this and really want to get something that people would actually fight for. That's how I feel. I love that energy because I can't tell you how many like secret Santa's or white elephant things that I've done that it's like junk. And it's like, can we please stop spending our money
Starting point is 00:34:33 on stuff that nobody wants? Okay. So I have a couple of things to say about this. One thing is like not white elephant related but then like the other is, Will and I used to do this when we were married where we would be like, okay, you can't spend more than whatever. And I know that my parents have done this too.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And it'll be like, okay, well, here's like the limit or we're not doing Christmas this year. So we're just like not exchanging gifts. And then always like one of them tries to outdo the other one. Like I absolutely hate that. It's, I hate limits. First of all, pretty much in everything in life,
Starting point is 00:35:07 if we're being honest, I just like to get a gift that I know that somebody likes and not, you know, obviously like budgeting, I get that. But at the same time, if you're talking about, you know, like spouse, boyfriend, whatever, it's like, okay, well the budget might be like a little bit more for you. Hate that. I hate like being like, oh, well I can't get that
Starting point is 00:35:31 but I know that he really wants it but it's like over the limit. Like I hate that. A white elephant gift, $40 to $50, I'm trying to think. See, that's, that was the same thing. Hobby and I, when we were married, did, we did do Christmas and his family's so big that we did the secret Santa situation
Starting point is 00:35:51 and they always put like a limit on it. I never followed it because I wasn't spending my money on something that I knew the per, like one year I got his one brother that loves the Eagles and I bought him Eagles tickets because I was like, I'm literally not gonna spend my money on something that he's gonna, that's gonna collect us. He doesn't want it and I'm not spending my money on that.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So I never actually listened to the budget and I know that's horrible. But again, same thing from like, I just don't want people to send my kids stuff that's gonna collect us and they're not gonna use. Like I'd rather them save their money and not get anything for my kids. You know what this is inspired me to do?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Maybe that's not grateful but that's how I feel. This has inspired me to put together a list of good things within this range and then I'll also post it on Thursday. I'm committing to this. Okay, I'm gonna, if I find anything, I'm also gonna send you some options. Perfect. Also another thing from the Facebook group,
Starting point is 00:36:48 I always like to get to these. It says, how do you accept that you're in a good and healthy relationship after only ever knowing toxic ones? I'm in a relationship with a really good guy. It's like, he knows how to love me without even saying, I need this from you. And I love and appreciate him so much but I really struggle with low self-worth
Starting point is 00:37:07 and I have a lot of insecurities. My last relationship was almost nine years ago and you'd think the trauma would have faded by now. But I think because I just haven't dated since I haven't had the chance to work things out. I'd like to think I've grown as a person and I've been through therapy but I just never had actual relationship experience.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I'm not being a full-on loony or anything. There's just insecurities I have and I'll sometimes vent to him about a mutual girlfriend we have that I think gets too cozy or I'll find myself wondering if he's seeing someone else when I don't hear from him, things like that. How do you teach yourself to trust again or believe that when someone says that they love you,
Starting point is 00:37:44 they actually mean it? Ooh, this one's tough. I wanna start off by saying, if you ever have had insecurities or trauma from a previous relationship where there has been trust that has been broken, I think that that makes it very hard to ever believe again but you have to remember that this person
Starting point is 00:38:05 isn't the last person. I, it definitely takes time and I don't love the cliche of like, I explained that I was hurt before and because it sucks for the new person who is showing you their genuine intentions and it's not really fair to them to like bring the baggage but also
Starting point is 00:38:23 if you explain it to them in a way that is, I don't want it to be this way forever. I don't wanna not trust you forever. I am carrying some type of baggage into this relationship as far as like my trust issues but I wanna learn, I wanna grow but maybe being open to therapy, open your willingness to do things like that
Starting point is 00:38:44 because on one hand, if you have those trust issues, it's maybe not a good time for you to move into a new relationship but at the same time that things are not black and white like that. Like that's just not how life works. So just being open about trying to move past that, excuse me, and having the open communication about it
Starting point is 00:39:05 because I feel like the right person is going to be patient when it comes to things like that. Well, and I think sometimes there are certain traumas that until you're in something new, it takes you being in that new thing for you to really, truly work through it because you can kind of go into like an avoidance pattern when you're not having to be vulnerable in that way.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right, that's true, yeah. But until you are and you're having to face it, then I think that that's where some of these triggers come up. I did wanna say though, mutual girlfriend that gets too cozy, first of all, absolutely not. Like know your place and stay out of my man's lane. I wonder like, because I've had that before
Starting point is 00:39:54 with one person. I know, that's why I said it. The threesome person, but she's been that way with like, when we were friends, she was like that with all my partners. What do other people do? Like do you say something to a friend? Do you not stay friends with them anymore? Like what did you do?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Wait, back up. Has this person had a threesome in like every relationship of yours? No, no, no, like we had a threesome with one of my partners, but then when I was married, she was also too friendly with him too. Oh yeah, maybe she... Like it was like her personality.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Okay, it could be a couple of things. It could be that she actually grew feelings for you. And so she wanted to like insert herself possibly in that relationship as well. Or maybe she just really likes threesome. She wanted to... Well, you know, I really do like... Remember Peach from the show You with Joe and Beck?
Starting point is 00:40:50 And she was like Peach, because you know how Peach like had feelings for her? And then she ended up sleeping with the guy that she... Raj? Yeah, okay. It was like that. Well, I'm just not having threesome. So that's that.
Starting point is 00:41:05 We're just not doing that. We're not gonna get cozy like that, okay? Do you hear my cat? Which one? The one between your legs or... Gumball Venom. Gumball Venom is crying cause she wants to get into my office. But I'm like, you can't come in here
Starting point is 00:41:19 because they fuck with my... I had to put all my plants in my office because my cats keep trying to like fuck with them. And some of them are poisonous. And I don't want anything to happen to them. Goodbye. Did you know that like Poinsettias were poisonous to dogs? And cats, they'll die if they have like one bite.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Wait, what? Is this a myth? Cause you know like the chocolate thing? I don't know if that's like for sure true. My dogs in the past have eaten chocolate and nothing has happened. I've heard, again, rumor, I have myth. I don't know. I've heard that dark chocolate
Starting point is 00:41:52 is what's more poisonous to them. Okay. Well, I mean, we're not gonna try it but I also need everyone to tell us if they've had any experience with this and if it's true or false. And I also need to know if the Poinsettia thing is true or false because I always get Christmas Poinsettias
Starting point is 00:42:09 like every year. My dogs have never tried to eat them. I don't know if like they attract dogs and like dogs wanna eat them or how that really happens, don't know. Dogs that have like, what is it called? Not a predisposition. Like some dogs just like my dogs,
Starting point is 00:42:29 they destroy things. They have separation anxiety. Like the dogs that have that are chewers or get into things that they shouldn't get into but some dogs just don't do that. Well, I'll tell you, Jackson is so clumsy. So I worry about him falling down the stairs and now that I have my Christmas Poinsettia out,
Starting point is 00:42:45 it's like in this like Christmas snowman holder that kind of like sits low to the ground and it's super cute. Will's dad bought it for me like a million years ago and I kept it and so like love it. But I now have to worry about Jackson falling down the stairs with his basketball rolling down the stairs. And then I have to worry about Georgia eating the Poinsettia.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So my eyes are just like constantly going. Your head's on a swivel. It's literally on a swivel. I have to tell you what put my brain in a complete pretzel and I was literally weeping when I was watching this video. I'm gonna send it to you and I'll post it for everyone to be able to watch as well
Starting point is 00:43:28 but just be prepared. It's like a 30 minute video and you will be absolutely heartbroken, heartbroken for the child, heartbroken for the parents. It's called the longest ride. You could have seen it before. This was a story that was covered like back in 2018
Starting point is 00:43:48 and then it resurfaced about like six days ago. The family claimed that the school district tried to cover up their autistic child's bus attack and it's so much to like really dive into. So I want everyone to watch it and you guys can write in and we can- This is a true story. It's a true story.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah, it's a true story. No, I literally can't. I literally like just reading this on the document has me sick to my stomach. So through the video, it was disgusting. This happened in South Carolina. It was disgusting about how we should not have to create
Starting point is 00:44:27 legislation to protect our children and in this case, common sense had four years to prevail and it didn't that there could have been an attendant on this special needs bus, which would have prevented this entire thing. When I'm watching this video and I'm sitting and looking at this child who is nonverbal to know that the child is nonverbal
Starting point is 00:44:57 and for something like this that happened and for her not to be able to not only defend herself but to be able to tell her parents, the bus driver or the school to be able to report it and to get on the bus after the fact that the first attack happened and to see this other child that attacked her and to give pushback on it, like on the footage
Starting point is 00:45:19 and to say that Tim, and that's the only thing that she could say. She knew like very few words. It literally broke my heart and there were advocates on this little, it was like a news clip that said that if they had a fraction of the urgency, meaning the school district,
Starting point is 00:45:43 if they had a fraction of the urgency to fix the problems as they did rather than try to hide the warnings, this also would have never happened. And I just wanna say as a parent, I've talked about before, Jackson doesn't ride the bus. I'm so close to the school that I just prefer to do carpool even though that seems slightly psychotic and honestly the bus gets to both mine
Starting point is 00:46:08 and Will's neighborhood quicker than we get through carpool. But as a parent, when you're putting your child on a school bus, you're placing your trust in the school district to take care of your child. In this case, it was a nonverbal autistic child who was attacked 96 times on a school bus. Oh, it wasn't just a one-time incident. Not that that would have been any better,
Starting point is 00:46:29 but it was multiple times. Yeah, she was attacked 96 times. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Did the child live? Yes, yes. And to know that like the child, the mom reported that the child was like very excited and took pride in like wanting to ride the school bus
Starting point is 00:46:50 and to know that she was putting her child on a special needs school bus, trusting that the school district and the driver were gonna be taking care of her precious child and to know that this could happen is awful, absolutely awful. When I tell you, I wept. Something that I should be watching with my kids?
Starting point is 00:47:20 I absolutely would not be letting my kids watch this. I mean, if I let Jackson watch this, he would be traumatized. He would like never wanna get back on a bus. Okay, because you know, have you heard of the movie Wonder? Yes, I have. Didn't you tell me about it before?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Probably, yeah, we've read the book and we watched the movie and my kids, you know, I thought it was important for my kids to watch that. Obviously that's a scripted movie. So it's very different than something that happened in real life, but I am very, very open with my kids
Starting point is 00:47:49 and I talk to them about things like this and I talk to them about being very nice and accepting gay people, straight people, whatever that looks like, people that have special needs. I'm very open with my kids about it. So I just didn't know if this was something that I should, maybe there's points that I can take away
Starting point is 00:48:08 and talk to them about, but maybe they shouldn't watch it, but okay. I mean, I would probably, I always go off the mindset. I watch first before I let Jackson watch anything and I've just always been like that. But if you are that open with your kids, you know your kids better than anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:27 So if that would be something that you would share with them, I would just encourage you to watch it. I'll watch it first and then decide. Jackson is a paranoid patty. So like, I have to be so careful about what I do expose him to because he doesn't let go of it and he will stay paranoid
Starting point is 00:48:44 and he will literally stay stuck on this. If I showed him this video, he would stay stuck on this child asking about it every single day. Oh, my heart. You guys know I love practical gift giving any time of the year. And I've talked about KiwiCo a hundred times.
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Starting point is 00:52:27 of a Skylight Frame, just go to skylightframe.com and enter code coffee. That's S-K-Y-L-I-G-H-T-F-R-A-M-E.com promo code coffee. I did see something else in the Facebook group that was specifically a question for you. And it said, how do you cope with not having a family? Mine is pretty much non-existent while my husband's is so involved in ours
Starting point is 00:52:54 and our kids lives, it almost makes me jealous. Why couldn't I get that? Then I have friends that complain about not wanting to spend time with your mom, sister, family in general. And I always think to myself, I wish I had that. And when I talk about this with anyone, they say the little family you created should be all that matters, but it still hurts,
Starting point is 00:53:12 especially around the holidays advice. I actually saw that as well. I think I might have replied to it. Naturally, I think I've gravitated towards men that have larger families. And I didn't actually realize this until I was with Chris. You know, Joe's family is really big and they're very involved, same with Javi, same with Chris.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I know Elijah is super close with his family. I went through some time where I was, it was a jealousy thing for me. Like it was just like I, and I also wanted to invest myself so much into those families that actually almost became toxic for me. So I had to, that's why it was really hard for me with Elijah and his family.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Like I still, I was so invested in trying to be friends and be a part of the family with Joe and Javi and Chris that I am very apprehensive to do it this time. So I really haven't met his whole family. It's hard, but the only thing that I can say and it's so cliche is therapy. Like therapy has really opened my eyes to my relationships with my family
Starting point is 00:54:20 and just my kids do come first. Like I saw something the other day and it was like they came from a divorced family and if their parents weren't coming to them for their grandkids for the holidays and they weren't gonna see them because they shouldn't have to be torn between this person and that person.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And they really put their own kids' needs first. It does sound cliche. It sounds like you've heard it a million times, but you just have to learn to cope with your kids are your family. And it will suck for a little while. It stings a little bit, but I think with the right match therapist
Starting point is 00:54:53 is the only real way. And just like coming to terms with your partner's family is essentially your family and your kids are your number one priority. It sucks, but you just learn to, like I don't even really think about my family for the holidays anymore. I mean, I got a couple things to say about this.
Starting point is 00:55:13 So I think that it is probably a very natural response if you have non-existent family that you would be jealous of something that you don't have because I think a natural human instinct is to want what we don't have. This also goes back to the same mindset though that I was discussing when I gave my opinion on having kids and wanting one sex or the other.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And family's complaining about mom, sister, other family members, whatever. I also think that's a natural thing to do when you spend a lot of time with people. You're not gonna like everything that someone does. So I also think that that's a natural thing and you can't get wrapped up into that. From a biblical standpoint for me
Starting point is 00:56:04 and I also think that it's a natural thing from a biblical standpoint for me and I always was like this when I was married and regularly told Will this that when you take someone's hand in marriage, that becomes your immediate family. So husband, wife, children, that is your immediate family and your parents become extended family with your siblings. That's a way that I've always looked at it.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And if I got married again, I would look at it the same way. Doesn't mean that you have any more or less love for your parents than you did prior to marriage. The makeup just changes. And I will say that it was hard for me going through divorce because I did invest so much time in Will's family and I know that you probably felt the same way and you can tell me if you did with Harvey and his family
Starting point is 00:57:06 that you almost felt like you divorced the family in a way because they belong to him, not you. And so when you put that much time investment, it stings. It does sting. You're 100% correct and I think it's human nature to want to be connected to your own family. But once you're invested in your partner's family, breaking up with the family is incredibly difficult as well.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Absolutely. Saying all of that, I saw this quote that I wanted to share with you that could be applicable to this person. It was great advice for me. When you are thankful for what you have, you're always rewarded with more. Be grateful for what you have because it could be the dreams of many.
Starting point is 00:57:53 If you focus on problems, you'll have more problems. Focus on your blessings. Oh, we should post that. We should definitely post that. Actually, Kristen and I were talking about on the Southern T about me being like a fake bamboozling. I was going to do a book club. And now I think I've decided that I'm just going to do
Starting point is 00:58:19 like a collective quote club for coffee combos and the Southern T because I just like love quotes. So I'm just going to do a quote club because that's obtainable for me. And that's actually really cute. And I love quote club. Like that's just so cute. Wait, I did see this other quote though.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And when I saw it, I wanted to send it to you so bad. Sometimes I do see stuff and I'm like, I want to send this to her so bad, but then I don't want you to see it or us to talk about it before we talk about it with everybody else. And it's so applicable. Just because you did something wrong in the past doesn't mean you can't advocate against it now.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It doesn't make you a hypocrite. You grew. You don't let people use your past to invalidate your current mindset growth, a concept, embrace it. Don't know how much needs to be said on that, but I will just say, you know, because I'll use my marriage as an example, because I did things in my marriage, doesn't mean that I would do them now
Starting point is 00:59:17 or I wouldn't advocate against some of that stuff now because I know better when you know better, you do better. Actually, there was a quote on Grey's Anatomy that was similar to that. And we teach best what we need to learn, what we most need to learn. And he basically, he's in the hospital and he's talking about, you know, the messiest people do it best.
Starting point is 00:59:43 We give the best advice because we've lived through it. You know, we've done it and it doesn't make you a hypocrite. You're speaking from experience. So, and I've said that about, like, my trolls and my haters. Like, I'm like, you guys, they're like, oh, why would we ever take advice from someone who has three baby dads? And it's like, because I have three baby dads. Like, I have lived through the messy shit.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I have seen, I've been cheated on. I've cheated. I've lived on both sides of the fence. You know what I mean? Like, I have, I've lied in relationships. I've not lied in relationships. I've been in healthy relationships. I've been in toxic relationships.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I've been the toxic one and I've been the healthy one. And so I've, I, it's, it's so funny that you brought that up because I saw the quote on Grey's Anatomy on the other day and I tweeted the quote from Grey's Anatomy on November 25th and it said, we teach best what we most need to learn. And then his next sentence after that was something about like the messiest ones know best. And so that's so crazy that you brought that up where these are
Starting point is 01:00:43 signs and synchronicities that this is exactly what we need to be speaking on. I will tell you, um, I don't, trolls might say that you don't give good advice, but I find myself going to you for a lot of advice for various different things because one, I feel like you've had a ton of experience in relationships. I haven't. Um, and so I oftentimes find myself going to do advice for
Starting point is 01:01:10 from you, um, in that area. And then also in parenting and co-parenting, um, which are not the same. And I get a ton of advice. Why is advice from you there? Because I feel like you've been doing it for so long. So why don't other people see it that way? Like why?
Starting point is 01:01:31 Because I also feel like I've asked people who have lived through certain things, you know, Natalie is older than me, but she's been through, you know, she was patient with me through my relationship with Chris, even when she probably wanted to kill me for still talking about it or, you know, making the same mistakes over and over again, um, because she was like, you'll, when you're done, you'll be done. You know, like she was, she was patient with me.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Um, she was very understanding cause she has already been through that. You know what I'm saying? So how come other people don't see it that same way? Like it's so weird. Like I want to ask someone who's been through it, not someone who has perfect relationships and I never see them fuck up. I think, um, I have come to realize that people see what
Starting point is 01:02:15 they want to see and they stay committed to whatever they were committed to. So how, however they thought about you from the jump, they're probably going to stay committed to that. And you know, those are, those are people who either aren't growing or people who don't accept someone else's growth. Interesting. Cause I feel like I, I like to give, well, I don't necessarily
Starting point is 01:02:39 like it, but I give multiple chances. You know, like sometimes you have to live through the shit to get through the shit and I don't, you know, you have to experience it to, to grow. If you don't go through some shit, well, you're just going to stay stagnant. You're going to be the same. Well, we know we're always going through shit.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I mean, shit. If we're breathing, we're going through shit. Um, I do want to hear about this. Go ahead. Potty training tick talk that you were talking about, because weirdly enough, Kristen and I were talking about me potty training Jackson on this other NT this week and I have not seen it.
Starting point is 01:03:16 So what is this? So I actually saw something similar to this on TLC years ago, probably when I was pregnant with Isaac and it's just, um, it's elimination, communication, teaching your infants like straight out of the womb to go to the bathroom on the toilet. Wait, what? And it's so, yes.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And I had seen this on, like they did a special on TLC like years and years and years ago. And oddly enough, I remember that. And also women who were trying to orgasm while giving birth, which was an even weirder thing. Why? Um, yeah. I watched a lot of pregnancy stuff when I was pregnant with
Starting point is 01:03:53 Isaac because I was so young, but, um, I do remember when TLC used to do like all the pregnancy shows. Yeah. I remember that. So I saw that and then I was scrolling on Tik Tok and I saw this girl and she looked like a, probably around our age and she had a two month old baby and she was talking about potty training her two month old.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And, um, there's a lot of controversy around it. I guess it has like four million views now when I saw it. It didn't have that many, but a lot of the comments were going back and forth, like, let babies be babies. Like, why are you doing this? You're in the, you're in the bathroom all the time. Um, and then other people were saying that there are certain studies that say or suggest that, you know, it could doing
Starting point is 01:04:37 something like that and making them go to the bathroom at two months old and like having those cues and things like that can cause OCD later on. And then other people were saying that it's really unhealthy. It makes our bladder smaller. And then other people were like, this is amazing. Like, how did you do this? And I just couldn't believe how controversial it was.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I don't know where the concept came from, um, potty training two months old, two months old. First of all, it seems very like wild to me. Kale. I was talking about letting Jackson shit and piss on himself just like until whenever he wanted to, because, you know, he'll tell me whenever he's ready to meet developmentally. I have concerns with this because I do lay on the side of let
Starting point is 01:05:24 babies be babies. And developmentally, I don't think a child at two months old is ready to take on a task like this. Right. Like it just feels so, I don't like what it just feels like a wild concept. Why would anyone want to do that? And she even says in the video, like in between diaper changes,
Starting point is 01:05:42 she's taking them to the bath, like taking her daughter to the bathroom to sit on the toilet. And I just feel like that just seems like overkill. And I don't know. I'm lucky if I'm getting a shower when I have a two month old baby, let alone running back and forth to the bathroom, trying to put a two month old with a wobbly ass head on a toilet. Like make it make sense.
Starting point is 01:06:03 This person's trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. I want to know what everybody thinks about it though. So this holiday season, we want to give each person, we care about a gift that will bring them joy, right? Something that they're going to use. It's practical. And there's one place that you can find a perfect gift for
Starting point is 01:06:18 everyone on your list, which is Mrs. Fields cookies. Lindsay told me about this. And if you don't love fresh from the oven cookies, I don't know. You just don't belong here. I love this. This is perfect for just loved ones. It's different. It's not just like a gift card.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's, it's there's thought behind this. So you can get it for your grandparents, parents, kids, maybe coworkers and clients. I love that. This is perfect. I am actually going to order some of these for teachers gifts. I think that these are absolutely perfect to just like be able to give them something that is cute, but also that they're going
Starting point is 01:06:55 to absolutely love the cookies are so good. The one that I got for myself and I had some friends over and we all ate them and absolutely loved them. Jackson as well. It was a cute like little snowman tower and three different size boxes and they had cookies in each of them. So cute. They had classic flavors like the chocolate chip,
Starting point is 01:07:18 salted caramel, the frosted cookies, which are my favorite brownie bites and more. So there's going to be something in there that everyone will love. And right now Mrs. Fields is giving the best deal available only to podcast listeners get 25% off everything site-wide when you go to mrsfields.com slash coffee.
Starting point is 01:07:38 That's right. Mrs. Fields is giving this exclusive deal only to podcast listeners 25% off everything at mrsfields.com slash coffee. That's 25% off at M-R-S-F-I-E-L-D-S.com slash coffee. Best fiends. Okay. Well, while we're waiting in really long lines this season,
Starting point is 01:08:01 we can use best fiends. We can play the game. It's free to download. We've talked about it forever. Lindsay and I are competing to see who gets to the highest level first, although it never ends and it's super fun. It's going to be me. No, it's going to be me.
Starting point is 01:08:16 So I'm highly competitive. Lindsay's highly competitive and you can collect the cutest little characters with best fiends. You can escape to your own winter wonderland full of exciting puzzle adventures no matter where you are, which I needed this because, you know, sometimes I just get that brain fog and I need to snap out of it. And so it's nice to quickly play this in the school pickup
Starting point is 01:08:35 line. We went to target the other day. And when I tell you the line was like wrapped around the building, I was like, let me pull out my phone to play best fiends. And like I said, it's free to download. So I am in the thousands level at this point. I've been playing for so literally so long, to be honest,
Starting point is 01:08:54 Kristin's probably higher level than both Kail and myself combined. I think she plays all the time. If you guys have not heard of Best Fiends, it is a free to download mobile puzzle game with thousands of exciting of exciting levels for new adventures and challenges every time you play, there's dozens of unique fiends to collect so you can customize your team of fiends to defeat menacing slugs. And with offline play, you'll never be stranded without fun, even if you lose internet connection,
Starting point is 01:09:23 which we've all been there. Brand new events and challenges pop up all year round. So you've got a chance to earn exclusive in-game items, characters, and rewards. Wherever you go this holiday season, bring a little wonderland with you. Go to the App Store or Google Play to download best fiends for free, plus earn even more with $5 worth of in-game rewards when you reach level five. That's friends without the R best fiends. Okay, now foul play. Okay, foul play. Do you want to read the first one or are you reading the first one? You go ahead. I don't have any interest in this. I already read the headline. Okay, foul play, bleeding dick story. I'm very afraid. Okay. Hey girls, first off, y'all are amazing and I love listening to y'all. Both of you are so relatable
Starting point is 01:10:16 and the growth you both have shown is inspiring. Okay, bleeding dick story. So my husband and I have been together for 17 years, 18 in July. We were high school sweethearts. We got married in 2011 and decided to start trying for a baby pretty quick since we had already been together for seven years at this point. On this fateful night that has forever traumatized me and my husband, we were having sex and really into it. At one point he got on top of me and moved my left hand down there to help guide him. Keynote, my newly acquired wedding ring had a diamond that was inset into a prong type design. We both finished at the same time. That's amazing. He went to our bedroom bathroom to clean up and I went to the hall bathroom. I sat on the toilet to pee and went to
Starting point is 01:10:58 wipe and I had a lot of blood. Did I just start my period? It wasn't my time for my period. We what in the actual fuck is where is his blood coming from? My husband walks into the bathroom, his voice in a panic and look of pure fucking terror on his face. He's holding a piece. He's holding his piece. It is bleeding profusely and said, is the blood coming from you or me? I was in such shock. I didn't see how white his face turned. I said, I don't know. And he walked back into his bathroom. I'm still on the toilet confused as fuck when I hear a boom, the loudest fucking thud of a six foot three, 250 pound man hitting the wall. I jumped up, but ass fucking naked and run to our room to find my husband passed out on the ground. He was too close to the wall
Starting point is 01:11:39 when he passed out and hit it so hard in his head, he put a dent in it. Not only that, but he hit his head so hard it knocked him out. Oh my God. Can you be knocked out and passed out at the same time that he seized up? Oh my God. His eyes were wide open. His hands frozen to his chest. My mouth was and his mouth was stressed back. What does that mean? Like open? I don't know. But first of all, that is quite frankly, the scariest fucking thing that you would have seen in your entire fucking life. Absolutely it is ever the scariest fucking thing I've seen in my entire life. I'm freaking the fuck out, still naked, trying to find my phone to call 911. And this time he wakes up and tries to stand. I'm trying to help him, but he's a big guy. She's five foot two, so short. I get him to
Starting point is 01:12:25 sit on the bed and he looks so confused. I'm asking him questions like his name and my name, which he knows. He was asking me what happened and I asked if he knew what we were just doing. He said, watching a movie. I'm falling at this point, having a panic attack, trying to call 911. I'm hysterically trying to tell him what happened and he comes to and remembers he's like, Oh yeah, my dick was gushing blood. I told him, don't stand up or let me look or let me, I told him, don't stand up and let me look. He laid back and I see that he has a laceration on the tip of the head. While I'm looking, my eye catches that my engagement ring has bloody skin in the diamond prong. Oh, we both see the same thing at the same time and his face goes back to the look of terror
Starting point is 01:13:04 and loses his color again. Luckily he didn't pass out, but we were both like, what the fuck? My ring had his dick skin in it. Since he hit his head so hard, I made him go to the emergency room. He begged me to make up a different story and to not tell them what happened. He told me to tell them. He tripped over the dog and fell into the wall. Not that him and his wife were getting it on and accidentally got freaky with the left hand and wedding ring that scraped his dick skin. But since we were hot and heavy into what we were doing, neither of us noticed. The doctor checked his vitals and his head was all good. I was in such panic mode that I told the doctor every detail of what happened to make sure he was 100% okay. My husband just sat there,
Starting point is 01:13:44 mortified and turning the darkest shade of red imaginable. The doctor said he was fine and did evaluate his member. The doctor said he was fine and did he want him to evaluate his member to make sure it was fine. My husband 100% rejected that evaluation. The doctor said the reason there was so much blood is because he had been scraped while erect and in the moment and didn't notice the sting. And then when he ejaculated all the blood rushed to his dick and made it bleed even more than it would have. I never wore the ring again. When it happened, it was absolutely terrifying. But now it's pretty fucking funny and to add, I'm pretty sure that's the night our son was conceived. So tics aren't tough and they do bleed. Have a great day, ladies. First of all,
Starting point is 01:14:29 my God. That's the scariest part. Like, okay, if I ever were to get married again, I had a princess cut ring before. And worst idea to get a ring, if I could give any advice on marriage, which you should not take minor kills advice, the one piece of advice that I would give you is to not get a ring with prongs that are like high set, because they literally do snag on everything. Like they'll scrape your refrigerator, scrape your kid, scrape your husband, like just a bad idea. I would get a whole different setting, whole different shape. That's a whole different conversation. All I know is, is I can confidently say any person that I've been intimate with, this man must be a G because if he didn't know that his dick was bleeding or like the skin was
Starting point is 01:15:20 scraped off from the head of his dick, like they were really into it. They were really into it. Because I feel like you'd have to notice like, isn't that like the most sensitive part of the dick? Yeah, the tip of the dick. The tip of the dick. That's what this podcast episode should be called. Tip of the dick. I literally cannot like, Oh my God. If first of all, that would just make it over. There would be no conception that night because at the point that I scraped someone's dick skin off, I would just be like, I would, I'm saying because of who I have been with, I know they would. So I would just be like, you know what, for the safety of yourself and myself, we are not conceiving tonight. We're gonna just like finish this up. We're literally gonna wrap
Starting point is 01:16:14 up the tip of the dick. And we're going to bed. And we're going to act like this never fucking happened. This never happened. And also please buy me a new ring. Okay, second foul play. I love when somebody tells me that I'm right. Hello, Lindsay was right. The foul play about the drunk ping incident was going to bring forward all kinds of memories for people. This is kind of a long one. So I'm going to make it as short as possible and hope that it is easiest to follow. Anyways, last year I went on a girl's trip for my birthday with my best friend, another good friend and her best friend, two sets of besties since high school. So we each had a handler. We all know about that on girl strips. The first day we drink pretty much all day. And we're back at the Airbnb for the
Starting point is 01:16:59 night when my good friend got to the point where her best friend was like, it's time for her to go to bed. We also all have had a friend that it's time for them to go to bed immediately. Yes. We all follow suit. The Airbnb only had three beds. So me and my best friend shared a bed in separate room. And the other two girls got their own beds out in the main part of the suite. This kind of sounds like our Airbnb travels as well. About an hour later, my best friend is waking me up. And when I finally wake up, I realized that my good friend that we had put to bed was in our bed cuddled around my best friend. And an important part of the story is that this was the first time these two were hanging out. So I was gonna let it happen. But the bed was already small
Starting point is 01:17:42 and I like my space. So I get up and try to wake her and she is passed out. I even end up having to wake up her best friend to come help. In the process of trying to wake her, we realized that she is naked from the waist down and still clinging to the other girl like a monkey on a tree branch. I know where this is going. Even though she continues trying and shank herself away, we are able to locate her pants in the room, get her dressed and get her out of the room. And my best friend goes to pee before going back to sleep, but is met with a very large pile of piss on the bathroom floor. Her best friend cleans it up for her and we all go back to bed. The next morning we are recounting the events of the previous night. And the girl doesn't remember any of it and is
Starting point is 01:18:25 mortified of the first impression she made, but we are all still hanging out and of course have never let her live this night down. First of all, that's not where I saw this going. First of all, I was thinking that this story was going to take a sexual turn. Same. That's exactly what I was thinking. I thought they were like going to be shocked that they were hooking up or something. That is, this is not going. Secondly, I would like to say that I do think that that's another common thing that not only are drunk peeing incidents a thing, I think drunk nakedness is a thing as well. Weird that she was wearing a shirt, not pants. I'm not going to try to die, like dissect this too much. But if you are naked and like you have never killed, could you imagine
Starting point is 01:19:14 if it was like the first time that you and I ever met and I got drunk and I was just like naked in the bed like with my leg laid over you and just like my kitty like all around. Well, I need to know what the other girl thought. Like I need to know what her thoughts were. Like was she like, oh my God, I'm disgusted. Was she like understanding? Was she also, were they like, was this, was it kind of sexual? Like I need answers. I need all of the girls to come forward now. Because of this and stories that are similar to this, it makes me realize that like all humans are very much similar in a lot of ways. As I was reading the story, I was like, probably a lot of us have been in this situation. Now, I have not had a friend
Starting point is 01:19:59 that has had no pants on and like laying on someone's like like a tree branch, but like this is just very weird. I do think that drunk peeing incidents regularly happen. I don't know what it is in alcohol that causes people to feel like they need to do this. I've heard different stories of people like peeing in corners of homes or apartments, like various different things. So yeah, I'm glad that I could really bring some insight to the peeing situation and being a drunk person. So yeah, thank you for bringing up all these core memories for everyone. So if you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that by searching the purple podcast app, type in coffee combos, click subscribe, click the fifth star,
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