Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Thrill Of The Chase & Name Calling

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

CC300: Lindsie calls out a certain someone for pushing the boundaries and causing problems. It's time for law enforcement to get involved. Kail finds out what a professional name consultant does and s...he is all in for getting a second job. Both her and Lindsie discuss their backup names from when they were pregnant and the conditions it had to meet. Kail is finally listening to the music of Jelly Roll and she is HOOKED! Does anyone else have a playlist of songs that literally represent a time in their life where things were rough? Lindsie and Kail share the music that got them through it. Also, a question about name calling during arguments between partners hits a certain nerve, and we absolutely will not tolerate any of it as adults!For Foul Play this week - we get a scoop of that retirement home drama we never thought existed. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more!  Thank you to our sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthCare/of: Visit TakeCareOf.com and enter code COFFEE50 for 50% off your first orderEchelon: Text CONVOS to 81-81-81 to get $200 off your new Echelon plus FREE shipping and risk-free 30-day returns. By Texting 81-81-81, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from Echelon. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply, available at echelonfit.com/sms. Reply "STOP" to stop, "HELP" for helpIQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000One Skin: Get 15% off with the code CoffeeConvos at oneskin.coStamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!Stitch Fix: Try StitchFix.com/coffeeconvos today and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convose with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Crisley. I really want you to be in your field scale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I'm just not with the Fakerie anymore. There's a Fakerie bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsay. Happy Thursday. It's Coffee fakery bakery around here. Here's Halen Lindy. Happy Thursday. It's coffee combos everyone. Why do you look like that? Why's your face look like that? I did not sleep last night. Creed and Lux were in my bed last night and they moved around so much. I had no room. And then we had to be up at the ass crack of dawn for Isaac's orthodontist appointment.
Starting point is 00:00:48 So I basically ran out of the house and then I didn't have time to take them home before recording this episode. So they're in the other room and I said, if I hear a peep out of you, you're going to sit outside for the remainder of this recording because Lindsey doesn't play that shit.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And they started cracking up. And Lincoln goes, yeah, Lindsey doesn't play that shit. They started cracking up and Lincoln goes, yeah. Lindsey doesn't play with me. Don't be playing with me, man. It was like Lindsey doesn't play that shit. He thought it was so cool because he repeated what I said. That's so funny. Well, hey, like, I'm gonna tell you how you under the bus because if I didn't, they weren't gonna listen to me.
Starting point is 00:01:20 They weren't gonna take you seriously. They weren't like that cruel a bitch on that podcast. She will kill us. Not kill us. What's the word that we use? We use it's not that F Mary kill harass. She will harass us. Well, I wish everybody on this podcast that's listening could get a true visual of what I look like in this current moment. Your gifts are very Alex Earl though. Like Alex Earl reminds me of like what you possibly looked like when you were younger, like at her age,
Starting point is 00:01:57 because she's like significantly younger than us. But I never knew anything about Alex Earl until you told me about her. Oh, I was obsessed from the first time I ever saw her on my timeline on my for you page. Why? She's giving everything I ever wanted in my life and never had. So you're living vicariously through Alex Earl. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't feel like Alex Earl right now because I'm doing nothing great. I came home this morning and have been sick since yesterday. So love that for me.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Have you ever woke up and could not breathe because that was me for the past two days? In the middle of summer, that's so weird. You're allergic to something. It's weird because this time of the year, I normally always get some type of like seasonal cold and I don't know if it's because I was in the mountains or wetting over the weekend that maybe like the elevation or something was different. So I just can't adjust but whatever it is, I'm telling you right now and everybody who's listening, I would much rather throw up, then have a cold.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And that's saying a lot because throwing up is absolute hell. Yes, it's absolute hell. Speaking of another hell, I have been going through some stuff that I have not talked about since specifically October of last year. And when we get off of this recording, I plan to go to law enforcement. So that's fun for me. I don't know. What is it with this week? I mean, first of all, I hope you're okay. Like I sincerely hope that everything is okay. And you're just taking like proactive measures.
Starting point is 00:03:42 But I also was in the courthouse yesterday until 12 o'clock, so what the fuck? I I just don't get it. I also don't get that if you have fucked over somebody in life and you have knowingly fucked them over and you continue to try
Starting point is 00:04:06 to fuck with them on a daily and weekly basis. And you have been told repeatedly to stop unless you want the law involved. I have done everything in my power to get this person to stop, will not stop. Does things that is so methodical and creepy creepy that it's almost serial killer like like calculated like yeah plan plotted Did all of that yes like a calculated methodical fuck and I'm just to the point that I don't want to deal with it anymore like you literally
Starting point is 00:04:43 wrecked parts of my life and bamboozled the fuck out of me for months and months and months and months. And when I finally did something about it, now you want me back. So like, no, I'm not- Because you're- Nobody's probably stuck up for themselves the way that you have and so That's seen as a challenge versus I should leave this personal loan I wonder what calls as a person to be like that. I mean, I don't I can't say for certain But potentially like narcissism which you need to go back and forth some people say that like we all just are calling everyone Narcissist and then on the other hand, it's like, well, now we know what narcissism is.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So we are able to point it out and diagnose it more often. So it could go either way, but also sociopath, psychopath, which is really scary. Like in the beginning, you don't think it's as scary as it is, but like as time progresses and time goes on, it becomes like terrifying. I also want to say that getting protective orders is one of the most challenging things
Starting point is 00:05:50 and something that I absolutely hate about the system because it's always a runaround of where you're supposed to go to in fact do this. So like, is it where an incident took place possibly like in another state? And then they have to serve this protective order in the county that this person resides in. Is it the county that you live in? Is it the county that they live in?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Where different incidents took place, if it took place in one county, and then you were in another county when it took place place like where is the filing county? It is the most frustrating thing and I think that that's a lot of times why victims end up in situations that they end up in because they truly cannot. Well, who first of all just if you're not the first fucking person in the courthouse for any reason, whether it's a PFA, whether it's custody, whether, no matter what it is, if you're not the first one in that courthouse, you will be there all day. And I do think that they're overworked and underpaid because four people called out when I went in for what I had to do.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And the girl was like, I'm so sorry, like I don't normally work the desk here. And then the people in front of me were trying to get a PFA in Delaware, which is different than some states, you have to get a PFA at family court. So you cannot get a family, first of all, you cannot get a PFA on some, like I tried to get a PFA against my mom's boyfriend because he was really abusive towards me. That was in Pennsylvania, they would not offer it because it was not an expaus of child's father, etc., etc. So I think different states have different laws involving that. And then secondly, to go wait around for hours for people who have kids, maybe don't have the funds for a babysitter, don't have a babysitter, you know, things like that, it's like, or calling off a work, to do the fucking run around just to
Starting point is 00:07:41 get a PFA to protect yourself. So a lot of people don't get them. My question is, is why do we need PFA's against psychopaths? Like maybe that's the wrong word to use, but in this situation I'm going to just diagnose true psychopath. I also don't understand if someone ever told me in any type of situation, like, hey, like don't contact me. I don't want anything to do with you. Please leave me alone. Please don't send stuff to my house. Please don't be out here posting random shit thinking that you're going to get a reaction out of me.
Starting point is 00:08:19 All of these things, why is that not a situation where somebody would leave you alone? They don't, they don't get it. They see it as a challenge. They think that it's the thrill of the chase. It's all I'm going to get her. I'm maybe initially it doesn't start off as an obsession or just like they see it as a challenge,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but eventually it becomes like an obsession. And it's scary, like I said. That's the shit that you see on ID channel. To me, I'm like, I don't even think about you ever, unless you're doing some stupid shit. So if that's the case, and you know on the other side of the situation that I don't care about you, I don't want anything to do with you. Why are you chasing something that does not want anything to do with you? Ego, potentially, if this is who I think it's about, and I've never met him, it's only me speculating that it would be potentially an ego situation. I think it's also ego and also cloud.
Starting point is 00:09:18 At the point that I have people sending me messages saying that this person is attempting to post in the exact same way that I do. I don't maybe this isn't about who I thought he thought it was. Confused. No, it's who you think it is. Literally posting in the same way that I would post and I also wonder like when people are trying to win something and they have some type of like mental disconnect I can't figure out if they're trying to mimic things that you do to make You like them because it's something that would like resonate with you. That's called mirroring. Wait what? It's called mirroring. But what is that?
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's like so say you start dating someone or you start to casually like hang out them and potentially start dating them. And you say, Oh, I love hiking. I love going on vacation. I love and they're going to say that they love all of these same things. So essentially like you're falling in love with yourself and like you'll connect with them. I think I may have some of the details off, but it's called mirroring. So they essentially change and evolve into the same person as you so that you would like them and you will pick them and you will be with them. Okay, first of all, I'm not going through all of that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I'm not gonna do that for anybody. If I don't like something, I'm gonna just be straight up about it and be like, oh no, that's something that I would never do. Like for example, Trent likes camping and I mean, I'm not gonna go glamping, but you, if you want to go camping by, you know, on a trip and a tent, you're on your own. I'll see when you get back. Yes. And that's like, okay, like you can be with someone. I hope that you have a really good time. I hope that you have a really good time.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I hope that you don't come back with a million bug bites. Um, hope your fire starts like all those things, but I'm specifically going to be at home. So now I'm looking into clamping. I mean, if you guys want to go clamping on it, please count me and I'll I should in. You want to go clamping because I found this place that has, I'll have to send you it. It's got like an aesthetically pleasing like. Of course it would. Of course it would.
Starting point is 00:11:33 White like 10 and it has two sets of bunk beds in it. It has a king bed in it. It's got AC, it's got a little kitchenette. All the things that like you would need in a house, mainly the AC. Mainly not bugs. Yeah, mainly not bugs. And I'm like, I could get behind doing this.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Now you putting me in a tent, I would straight up be like that lady on the parent trap. Coffee combos needs to go on on camping. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? We can rent, we can also rent an RV. Like that's like a thing where you can like rent them. Can you imagine? Or you can take my camper.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, I can't imagine because no, it would be like Meredith on the parent trap. That would be you. Also, I wanted to do special forces, the show. I feel like you should also do special forces. Why do you say that? Because it would just be... I mean enough that I'd win. Hilarious to watch you in the desert and like secluded and trying to do these challenges. Like, it's like the challenge.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Supposition does not bother you. But it's the desert. The desert does. Suclusion does not. So immediately know. I'm telling Alexa to pitch you for special forces also. Can you just imagine, though, like me?
Starting point is 00:13:00 No, because I am so competitive number one. Like imagine they do like a partner's version and it's me and you. Yeah. I always remember back in the day when we first started coffee combos and I wanted us to go on Fear Factor. I remember that. I applied for Fear Factor. Like I applied for it before it got canceled.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I wish they would bring it back. And like why didn't I know and pick us and think it was a good idea. And it's snooki got picked. I'm glad that they didn't because they pick us and think it was a good idea. And- Snookie got picked. I'm glad that they didn't because they would have listened to coffee combos and found all of our weaknesses. Oh, and then picked all of those things, yeah, you're right. Yeah, so I'm like, you know what, for those reasons,
Starting point is 00:13:35 we wouldn't have won anyway because they come out with a snake, I'm out. It's really good. Like, I'm straight out, you come out with a snake, I'm gone. Like, I hate to tell you, but you lost, Gil. Oh, because I do it for both of us, whatever it was. Like, I can't.
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Starting point is 00:16:04 like when you say their names or you're talking to them and they like tilt their head. Yes. What do you, my entire for you page is filled with these name consultants and I don't remember that ever being a thing until name consultants. Yeah, like baby link consult. Hold on a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So these people I'm assuming celebrities probably started this I don't know for sure that's just an assumption with like their different names like the Kardashians I think there's a celebrity baby name inspector pilot Apple like you know those kind of out their names and so I'm scrolling on my for you page and it's like you know, those kind of out their names. And so I'm scrolling on my for you page and it's like, you know, I had a console and they big sister this and big brother this and then these are the names they're interested, but they don't want to use.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And then they'll give their name suggestions. And I'm like, when did this become a thing and how do I get paid for this? Okay, but back up, what are they consulting about? Do you like the same or the same? The name for their children. But why? So that they're maybe not in the top 20, maybe that they fit into like, I've always said when I'm naming my kids, like if I'm yelling at them to come down the stairs,
Starting point is 00:17:15 because we're leaving, it's like Isaac Lincoln looks, Isaac Lincoln looks creed. Like they have to be able to flow, right? Like they, it can't be like, you know, if I was one of the names I picked for Isaac, if he was a boy was Christian and then for Lincoln, it would have been like, Christian Roman miles, Milo, you know, like they can't, they have to flow together, right? And so these people are hiring name consultants to help name their children, either trendy names, classic names, vintage names, like all these like different names. And I'm like, I never heard of this,
Starting point is 00:17:48 but now I wanna get paid for it. Like how do I do this? Okay, so you want this to be like a secondary job for you. Yeah, why the hell not? Everyone asked me what names I would have considered what my grown names were and things like that. It's like, well, why not just... First of all, the amount of pressure
Starting point is 00:18:08 that would be on a name consultant, because that person's immediately gonna hate you for the rest of your life if they end up hating the name like years down the road, or if the child just absolutely hates it. Right. Or if you're paying for the consult, the consult,
Starting point is 00:18:27 and then you hate every name that they suggest. But what happened to just like the old school way of going online and, well, I guess not online, but like back then they used to have like baby names. Like baby names. Or whatever. And you just like went through and it's like,
Starting point is 00:18:43 okay, that one works, that one doesn't. Do you know what my parents almost named me? What? I've never talked about this before. Chacity. I have a cousin named Chacity. Why was my dad thinking Chacity was gonna be my name? Do I look like a Chacity?
Starting point is 00:19:00 You don't look like a Chacity. I actually had a dream about Chacity two days ago and I texted my other cousin and I was like, it's chastity pregnant because I had a dream, I had a dream that chastity was pregnant and she's like, probably. But I, you don't look like a chastity. Also, I know that there are people who have named
Starting point is 00:19:17 their children chastity, chastity, like a chastity belt. Yeah. I think that chastity sounds too much like chastity. Wait, what is a chastity belt. I think that chastity sounds too much like chastity. Wait, what is a chastity belt? Kristen, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's like the belt that they put on Virgin so that they can't have sex. Listen, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Why my dad would name me that? No, but that's chastity, not chastity. Maybe it was chastity. I don't know. Maybe that was the name. Could you imagine that being my name? Okay, no, that was just a bad idea. So I'm thankful That they came up with a better idea, but what they did was then they named me Lindsey
Starting point is 00:19:55 and They always called me Lindsey Brooke for like my whole life until I started kindergarten and I thought that my name was legitimately Lindsey Brooke Like I'm like hyphen a name hyphen. Yes, and I wonder that my name was legitimately Lindsey broke. Like, I think it is like hyphenating. hyphen, yes. And I wonder if that's like super common in the South, if you will do that. It is. I actually learned that from the name consultants on TikTok that like they'll take, especially
Starting point is 00:20:17 they'll take like a family name and they'll hyphenate that with the first name and still give them a middle and last name. And then they'll also do like Molly Jo, Sally May, like put them together. So like Lindsey Brooke, Brooke or Brooks could have been like a family last name and it would have been Lindsey Brooks, stuff like that. And they do it for like boys too. So they named me Lindsey. Please tell me why my name is spelled L-I-N-D-S-I-E and I could never get a
Starting point is 00:20:49 keychain with my name on it. I've never had a keychain with my name on it either. It's always Caitlin with a T. Yeah, that makes me mad. Like people need to think about this whenever they're naming their kids because they will be resentful. Well, here's the thing, and this is no offense to your parents, because I actually like that your name is not, it's not like far off like L-Y-N-N-D-Z-E-E-E. Like it's not crazy. Um, and I always know like I have several friends, St. Lindsey, and they're all spelled differently, but like yours is like different. I don't like when people spell their kids' names in like a unique spelling, because at the end of the day, it's still pronounced the same. Their name being spelled differently, like abnormally differently, is never going, it's not what does that do for them.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's like trying to make Fetch happen. It's like, if I would have spelled Isaac's name, I-Z-A-K. His name is still Isaac. Okay, that was my whole thing with Jackson. His will's mom, because you know I'm a monogram queen, which is going to bring me to the next thing that I'm going to talk about. Um, monogram queen love everything with like a name on it, your initials. Absolutely love it. She called me. I had a little Jackson's room was like elephant themed.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It was like the most popular pattern from Pottery Barn baby for years. And did the whole elephant theme, she was gonna get the elephant piggy bank from Pottery Barn. And she called me and she was like, I'm getting it monogrammed. How do I spell the name?
Starting point is 00:22:24 And I felt kind of rushed. And I was like, oh'm getting it monogrammed. How do I spell the name? And I felt kind of rushed. And I was like, Oh God, once this name is like on this piggy bank, that's it. Like I have the piggy bank with his name on it. And that's how you spell it. So we kind of like went back and forth for a little bit on if we were going to do J A X O N. Okay. And I thought, okay, I would only do that if I was gonna call him Jacks. And I was adamant about he was always gonna be Jackson, not Jack or Jacks. And so it's like, it's gotta be the traditional,
Starting point is 00:22:55 like the way that a president would spell it is how it needs to be spelled. So that's how he got his spelling of his name. And I was, I don't know if you were like this or not, but I did not want his name shortened. I didn't want anybody calling him like Jack. My dad immediately started calling him Jack-Jack. I mean, I think that's like cute just for Todd.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You know what I mean? That's like Todd's nickname for him. Like Elijah's mom has a nickname for him that only she calls him. Like I think those are cute, specifically for the ones that don't want. Like, I said, can't be short, short end. And Joe's family started calling him Izzy. And I was like, absolutely the fuck not. Izzy.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And I was like, he's still go by Izzy. No. Oh my god. I never stuck thankfully, but like when he was a baby, like, that's what they would, or they would call my boy. And I'm like, can you all not do and I'm like can you all not do this? And then Lincoln I was fine with Link like that's why which is weird because I was just thinking about it yesterday my ex-boyfriend in high school the one
Starting point is 00:23:56 who passed away yeah his stepdad was Link and I never realized that until recently and I was like oh my, his name wasn't link, it was Lincoln. And my son's name is Lincoln. Lincoln. Oh my gosh. Okay, that's also another thing with like names. When you go to have a baby, you go through the process
Starting point is 00:24:17 of I knew somebody that had that name and I did not like them. So for those reasons alone, that name is out. And think about two people trying to do that in a marriage situation. Like, okay, they knew, however many people they knew, and you knew however many people you knew, and you start going down the list of all of these names and all these good ones get eliminated because you might not have known someone that, you know, you didn't like that had that name, but your partner did.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So it doesn't even have to be someone you don't like, but just someone you know. I remember Roman was if Lincoln was a boy, it wasn't me Roman for the longest time, because again, we didn't know for Isaac Lincoln or Lux. And when it didn't get used for him, because we watched Prison Break and picked Lincoln for a boy. I had picked, I wanted Roman still for Lux if he was a boy, but Chris's sisters have a brother named Roman. So it's like, oh, so they were like, no. Okay, never mind. It was too close for him. And for me, I was like, I've never met him. I'll never meet him. So why the fuck do I care? But because of he knew who that, you know what I mean? Like it was too close for him. I was like, all right fine.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Have you ever like thought about with all of your kids? I could never imagine him being named something else. I can't tell us. Yeah, you know, Isaac, I wanted Christian so bad for Isaac. Like I remember that was Isaac's name. But Joe had an uncle or an uncle or a cousin named Christian. And I was like, but he, if it was a girl, Joe wanted Brooklyn. And I was like, first of all, I hate the name Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like no offense to anyone who's named Brooklyn. I just don't like it because I don't have any connection to the city of Brooklyn. I think I've been to Brooklyn itself like one time. I don't know anything about the city of Brooklyn. It doesn't make sense to me why we would knit. He's not from Brooklyn. He has no ties to Brooklyn. Why would we have named a daughter Brooklyn? Brooklyn. Yeah, I don't know. I do like the name Brooklyn though. You do? Yeah. And but see that would be a name that I would short. But I also know 12 Brooklyn's. Okay. Also, these are the last two things I'm going to say about it. If I had had another boy with Will, my second boy would have been Brooks,
Starting point is 00:26:32 because my middle name is Brooke, so that would have been like my second boy name. That's over there. Because Will's brother's wife named their baby Brooks.. So got over that. My dad also wanted to be called Biggs and not Papa. Biggs, that's what we call Biggie. That's what we call Creed. Yeah, but I also call him Papa. Like I'm like, hey Papa, so that's so funny Todd, is this is is Creek your grandson?
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Starting point is 00:30:06 You can go to takecareof.com and enter code coffee 50. I'm on stock. We can have names though. Have you seen all of the posts about not putting names on backpacks? This literally came out. I don't know if the internet heard me talking about this and then it just started blasting off stuff in my timeline of putting names on your children's backpack
Starting point is 00:30:33 and the link to missing children with this. What all have you seen about it? So, with somebody listened to our podcast a couple weeks ago where we talked about the monogram thing and she had messaged me and she said, tell Lindsay to be careful and like I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I do think some things are used more as like a scare tactic online at my kids school including like the middle school they don't like so elementary, intermediate and middle school they don't allow anyone to pick them up unless they're on the emergency card. But she did specify that she lives in Canada where a lot of people are walking to and from
Starting point is 00:31:11 school. And I also walked to and from school in high school for two or three years. I mean, I got to write if I could. And so I can see that happening if they're walkers, like they're walking, but none of the administrators, teachers or staff, I mean, they all know my elementary school kids. They all know everybody's car, they all know. And if there was someone that's not on the emergency card,
Starting point is 00:31:37 you have to call the school and give approval before it even happens. And sometimes they still will say no, because you're calling and it's too late in the day. Do y'all have a transportation thing that has to be filled out every single day because Jackson School does? A transportation thing, no.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So it's like on the back of their communications folder and their backpack and it's a daily transportation log and you have to fill it out, and the school specifically says, like do not fill this out monthly, do not fill this out weekly, this is a daily task that you have to do. You have to fill it out. You circle if you're car rider, if you're bus, if you're after school program, you circle
Starting point is 00:32:14 it, and then you have to put the bus number or who's picking up. That sounds very tedious, but also I would very much love that because I do stay on top of my kids' schoolwork and like all their folder, I'm doing and all that every single night, I stay on top of it. That would be perfect. The only thing that I think would be frustrating is like if in the middle of the day something changes and that's not going to happen based on how you fill it out, that's like the only thing. But no, we don't have that. We just have, in the beginning of the year, everyone gets two tag things for their car. So it's like if me and Harvey, for example, and then whoever fills out the car, it's like whoever else is going to be
Starting point is 00:32:56 picking up has to go on the emergency card or it has to have a written note for that day. Like you're not getting picked up if you don't have the car tag, that is like a rule. Like you're not getting picked up if you don't have the cartag that is like a rule. Like you're not you're not getting picked up. I have heard so many different stories of people telling me that they have had issues with custody dispute stuff and like one parent going to the school and Getting the child that you're not supposed to you had that too. I just wanted that puts the school in such a bad position because if you have two people that are on the pickup list that are approved for pickup.
Starting point is 00:33:31 My school's require the custody order. If there's a custody order in place, you have to provide that with the emergency card. So let's say one of your baby's dads go to the school and try to pick up. Do they pull that custody order to see and they won't let them have him? The first time one of my kids' dads ever tried to pick up
Starting point is 00:33:56 or did pick up, I think he did. The school called me within minutes and was like, hey, we don't have your custody order on file, but so and so came to pick up, so and so. And I was like, okay, I was like, let me get you the custody. I don't know why I didn't attach it from the beginning. I must have, it must have stood my mind. So I did eventually get, they were like, unfortunately, there's nothing we could do because we didn't have the order to go off of. So unfortunately, had to send him and let him go. And I was like, okay, like, I understand. Thank you for calling me. And then I sent into order, but it's just really frustrating because it's like early dismissals, tardies, absence, like all of that. And you can't do anything about it unless they have the custody order.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Also, creed school requires. And if there's a PFA in place, they also require that. That's it's so crazy like how much the schools actually have to deal with when they're dealing with parents and co-parenting situations or really anything that's like a hostile situation. Like, you know, let's say for example, I have Will's parents on there as emergency contact in the event that they couldn't get in contact with us, which what's the likely chance of that, but still have them on there. At that point when you put them on there, they're also approved for pickup. So who's to say that, you know, like he couldn't send his parents pick up when he's supposed to be picking up and not supposed to be doing that?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Not that I have an issue with it. I'm just saying for people who are in that situation who might have an issue with it, I could see that being extremely chaotic. And I don't know that I would feel really that comfortable with it. But back to the names on the backpacks, I could see this being an issue. If you had a child that was like a walker or something, if you live close enough to the school
Starting point is 00:35:43 and you're walking, somebody sees your child on the sidewalk, their names like plastered on the back of their backpack, they're going even as adult, someone says your name, even if they're not talking to you, you're going to turn around. Agreed. And that's the same thing that I was thinking, like, the girl that messaged me that I sent you the message of. She used from Canada where she said a lot of the kids walk and so I could definitely see something like that You know fortunately for for me they don't walk but also like How hard would it be for parents now because even if we were in walking distance
Starting point is 00:36:18 It's like now do I have to be afraid of my kids being able to walk within walking distance to their school because of this, like that's terrifying. Oh, it's absolutely terrifying. But just to let you know, Jackson's not carrying the backpack that has his name on it, only has lunch box, has his initials on it, and he's carrying a Nike backpack that was purchased from Dix by Will's parents, the lunch box came from my mom. So it was a little combo effort and I'm going to use the backpack that has his name on it as his travel backpack.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Thank you. Lux actually, a little Instagram shop sent the boy Lux and Creed backpacks with their names on them. So I asked him, we were going to let him use one of the spray ground ones from last year because they're so expensive But he picked the monogram one with his name on it But he's a car rider because we school choice which means he doesn't have a bus option because we're we live out of the District and we school choice to that school so I don't have to worry about like him walking or anything and Don't you still have like three or four weeks before your kids go back to school?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, we still, and I'm squeezing every, because out of four weeks, I only have two of them. So I'm trying to squeeze every single thing into those two weeks, and they start a month from, yeah, they start September 7th. That's so crazy. It's so crazy to me one that you guys start so late, but then it's so crazy to me that, like, thinking of going back to school after
Starting point is 00:37:47 Labor Day, I know that was something that used to happen, like when my grandparents were kids or something, like, everybody went to school after Labor Day. Right. And now, it's not like that here at all. Like some people, some preschoolers started school on July 31st. July? July 31st. And I know that that's basically August 1st. I'm aware, but it just feels so like like summer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In May, I think
Starting point is 00:38:15 that would have to be like all year round school where they get like a one month at a time off. Okay. I almost would I feel like we don't hear a lot about year round school, but Kristen just popped on here to say that someone in the Facebook group said that their kids started in May. In theory, I mean, I've never experienced it, but I feel like the year round school would be nice because then you can plan vacations accordingly instead of pulling them out of school or going in the summer, like, I will never in my life go back to Mexico in the middle of summer, in my fucking life. Why?
Starting point is 00:38:48 It was so on godly hot, though ocean was warm, it wasn't refreshing, the pools were warm, it was not refreshing, like in never in my life, will I ever go to Mexico in the middle of the summer. Actually, interesting that you've said that about the ocean because when Trent and I were there, it's also a seaweed season. When we were there, there was a red flag flying and we were like the water looks fine. The tide. Why is the red flag flying?
Starting point is 00:39:14 No, they told him that it was because the water was so hot and that it is, the ocean is the hottest that it has ever been like in history. Yeah, well, so we I was sitting next to the pool with Kaden when we were coming back from the ocean. We were like, okay, the pools are too hot. Let's go in the ocean. Number one, we were picking up handfuls of seaweed, which I should have known because seaweed season is like our summers in the US are Mexico seaweed season. We were like picking it up, but also because the temperatures are so warm, the sharks are coming in. So the guy from next to us was from Argentina, and he showed us a video of like seven or eight sharks hunting on the shore in the beach. He was like, they should, they probably won't be
Starting point is 00:39:55 back tomorrow. So like, don't worry about it. He was like, but because the ocean itself is like two or three degrees warmer, It's bringing wildlife closer and closer. That's absolutely terrifying. But your kids start school September 7th. What do you do to prepare for that many kids to go back to school? I saw that you would posted like where you had ordered name tags or like custom labels. Yeah. No and that's this is the first year I've done that. Usually like write their names. Yeah. But one, I hate when my handwriting just looks crazy
Starting point is 00:40:29 and I also don't like that I can't take them off because we do pass clothes between Lincoln and Lux. Not so much from Isaac, maybe like athletic, where we'll pass down. But I don't like writing it. Well, the name labels I did this year, excuse me, they're waterproof. They can go on like water bottles,
Starting point is 00:40:44 lunch things for creed. If Lux wants to pack his lunch, things like that. So we, I should and I were sitting in my home office yesterday separating on my like my big meeting table, like who supplies or who's like in sections and then labeling all of them because a lot of the stuff on the supply list says to like, please label the backpack, please label the pencil pouch and things like that. And then I just put
Starting point is 00:41:08 Isaac on my computer at home and I was like, go fill your cart because I have no idea what your what your style is this year. I have no idea. I don't want to buy something, waste money on it. And then I have their packages come with their names on it, not mine because I don't, I'm just not going to mess with it. The level of organized that I feel like you are is not what most people would think about you, and the level of disorganized that I am is not what most people would think about me. So I'm a Virgo, I present as a Virgo. So my, I'm a Virgo rising, which is how I present is very Virgo. And I would be curious to know what your rising is because that's how you present. So people might think that you're one thing, but this is how you actually are.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That's why I do think that some of like the astrological stuff, some of it is true. Because I mean, everything is insane, right? So yeah, I try to be a little or I try to be organized actually text to Chris in this morning I was like can you reach out to name bubbles because I absolutely love their labels so much. Is that what you ordered? Yeah name bubbles and then I also use the name stamp so that I can stamp like jackets and stuff like on the inside or like on the inside of their thing because you know it know, it's just, it's a lot of work. Listen, I believe in labeling absolutely everything,
Starting point is 00:42:28 like label your forehead. I love it. That's why his, I always tell Jackson all the time. He's like, Mom, why do I have my initials on my lunch box? Nobody else has that. And I'm like, you specifically have it because you will get somebody else's lunch. No, but literally, especially, and they don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:46 They're not paying attention. They don't care. I also have to tell you that this mystery illness that I have had that I've talked about, I got it again from Chick-fil-A, and I called Kristen and she was like, what are you doing? And I said, quite literally, the Lord's chicken is about to take me out because I don't know, like I am throwing up, I'm not okay. I don't know. I think I need
Starting point is 00:43:11 to go to an allergist at this point or check Eberly well first before you go to an allergist. Yeah, I was supposed to take an Eberly well test and then never centered off. I did that too. I like kept it and I didn't, but then I eventually did. Yeah, yeah, that's weird. It's weird because last night in this morning, I started sneezing uncontrollably and I was like, what am I allergic to? Nothing's changed. But I do think it could be like the weather changing possibly. No, mine's literally every time I eat Chick-fil-A. And you know, that's bad for me. Well, I'm sensitive to chicken, so you could be too. And Kristen told me, I was like, I'm never eating it again, like don't let me.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And she was like, oh, you'll forget that you got this sick in two weeks or so. And then you'll go eat it again. And- I haven't had Chefilet in a grip, like a good- Two drips. Three drips. Okay, let's talk about fitness really quick
Starting point is 00:44:01 because I know that Lindsay uses echelon and I need to get started with this echelon offers fitness a full range of affordable workout equipment I don't have one yet, but I do want one. They have a stationary bike a smart rower sleep fitness screens and the auto folding treadmill Which is the one that I want and all the equipment is connected to provide the full echelon fitness experience I absolutely love echelon have you signed up for the app? I have not, but I did see that you use it and you're on the app and I just want. I feel like I copy everything you do.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I love the app because it provides you with over 1500 live classes a month and offers you over 15,000 around the clock on demand classes with world-class instructors, great music, which I have to have great music whenever I'm working out. And they have some of the best music from your favorite artist. And you can work out any time at home and crush your fitness goals. And one membership covers a family of five. and it's quality workouts, it's reliable, it's affordable, exercise equipment, and it's accessible to all. They have stationary bikes, smart rowers, sleek fitness screens, the auto-folding treadmill, which for a lot of us, I like to be able to have something that folds up so it's not taking up a lot of space and all the equipment is connected to provide the full
Starting point is 00:45:27 Eschelon fitness experience. So if you guys have not tried this, I highly recommend. That's why I was thinking I would probably love this because all of my kids could kind of be involved at home and I don't have to again Don't have to take the time out to drive somewhere. If you guys want to try this, text combos to 81-81-81-81 to get $200 off your new echelon. Just text combos to 81-81-81 to get the special discount plus free shipping and risk-free 30-day returns. Again, text combos to 81-81-81. Message and data rates may apply see terms for details. In a grip. Okay, so would love to know, I'd saw that you posted that you were listening to Creature. I love that song. I also love that song. I love it so much. You put me on to Jelly Roll like a long time ago and like I have to be the first one to admit that I absolutely just
Starting point is 00:46:22 like didn't listen right away even though I said I was going to. And I started listening to him because Lincoln said something and I was like, you know what? Lindsay's been telling me to listen to Jelly Roll for a group, for a hot minute. So let me play some Jelly Roll and Lincoln knew all the words. And I was like, what in the hell? He's like, me and my dad listened to this and I was like, oh, okay. And then I did the bunny podcast and that's her husband. And I didn't know that originally he was like, oh, okay. And then I did the bunny podcast. And that's her husband. And I didn't know that originally he was like a rapper.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. He's like, rapper turned country singer. And I was like, that's so cool. And I see the TikToks and the podcast that he's done and he just hikes the hell out of his wife. And I just love, I just love their whole story. I just think it's so like honest and raw. I just love it. And so I just think it's so honest and raw. I just love it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And so I'm a big jelly roll fan. I'm actually taking the kids to see jelly roll this weekend in Virginia Beach. And I'm super excited because I just think he's such a vibe. Okay, number one. I've been on jelly roll for some time. Years. For years, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Creature was one of my favorite songs when I was going through my divorce. It's old. Yeah, like I've been listening to creature for like a beat. No. Yeah. I thought I thought creature was like one of the newer ones. No, I've been literally it was a song that I would play like every single time I got in my car when I went through divorce. And I just wonder how many people this is like completely unrelated to Jelly Roll, but just like music and general, do you ever hear songs and you're like, okay, that reminds me of like.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Like hits you right in your gut. Yeah, like that point of my life. Like I was going through that point of my life. So I don't want to say his name, I mean, whatever. When we were going through our divorce, he would play, I fall apart by Post Malone on repeat. And he only had one divorce. Right. And then so when I, and he told me that, and so when I listened to it, and I'm a
Starting point is 00:48:17 huge Post Malone fan, so when I heard it, I was like, wow, this really does. Like I see, I hear it, like I understand the paint, like I get it. Also, there's a song by Black. It's like, six, the number six, and then Black, people think that's his name, but it's Black. He's a rapper. There is some songs that got me through my pregnancy
Starting point is 00:48:38 with Lux because of what he was like, what he was rapping and singing about was to a team my life, to a fucking team my life. And it just like pushed me on through, you know what I mean? Listen, there are songs like, this is totally inappropriate for me to even, now that I know what the song is actually about, there is one song that I like vividly remember
Starting point is 00:49:03 my dad playing on repeat when he started dating duly and it's strawberry wine dina Carter and I'm pretty sure it's about screwin Oh, okay, I was a little girl. I would always tell my parents this song reminds me of y'all and like every time I hear it I'm like oh that reminds me my parents and like that time of my life. Creature reminds me of going through my divorce and every single time I hear it, I get so hyped. Because I'm like, you know what, I made it. Like, I survived and I'm good. There's a couple of other songs that I listen to going through my divorce that I will put like a little playlist together for people to listen to if you're going through heartbreak. Okay, same. I'll also send some of them.
Starting point is 00:49:52 There's just one like old country song and it's talking about he doesn't even know my name like he doesn't even know who I am. And I'm going to put together this list and post them because I feel like anybody needs to have a good breakup list. My redemption list is quite literally Kelsey Valerini's new album. Oh, I also, there were some Kelsey Valerini's when I was going through some shit that Kristen sent me and there was one that she had played in the car
Starting point is 00:50:22 and I bawled my fucking eyes out and I was like, oh my god, like this hits so, like how are they, and it's not even just like, oh I can relate to that. It's like this is what I'm going through right the fuck. Right this moment. It's so weird, and so also the song, Peace of Me, by Britney Spears, I relate to that song so hard because I always feel like
Starting point is 00:50:42 I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, no matter what the fuck I do, I'm canceled. So piece of me by Britney Spears, it's unrelated to divorce, but like that is so. Yeah, when I was going through depression, I would say yeah, because I felt like I had everything and I still was just like, why am I crying?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, yeah, I totally relate to that. I definitely need to put together. I think we could put them to get Kristen. Do we, can we put a list together on like Spotify and share them or no? Okay, I'm gonna work on that. So let me write. I don't have a pen in here. Yeah, there's some oldies but goodies Yeah, like so many good ones The one that I listened to on repeat right now is when Kelsey ballerini built out I kiss someone new last night and now I don't care where you're sleeping baby.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Like, yes. Period. Period. Like, I need to say no more. No, that's it. Oh, there was actually a ton of country songs that I was getting down to during some of my hard times. Also, like Dirk's Bentley.
Starting point is 00:51:44 You would. Dirk's's Bentley. You would. Dirk's Good and Goodbye by Carrie Underwood. It was a good one. Like when I finally saw the other side of it, you know, like I want you to be happy. And you know, I wish you the best. We just weren't good. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:51:56 You're kind of thing. Yeah. I mean, we always wish the best, but like sometimes it's just hard to do that. I just said something to me about one of my exes today. And he was like, I'm not going to say what it was, because I'm not giving him no fucking credit. But I was like, honest, I was like, I like rolled my eyes
Starting point is 00:52:10 and I was like, it was like, no, but honestly, like that's really good for him. Like honest, honest to God, I'm happy for him. Like if he's doing big things, like, I'm happy. How does Isaac know about what your ex is doing? He was on a billboard. Do what? My ex is on a local billboard. For his gym. No, he sold that. Oh, okay. So a different one. Would you like to share with everybody
Starting point is 00:52:33 why your ex is on a billboard? I'm not going to tell everyone I'll tell you because I'm not giving this guy a cloud. Oh, okay. We love. I'm texting you right now. I can't wait to read this. Okay, I'll give you guys my reaction to this text. I don't know if I spelled that right. Okay. Goodbye. I was like good bye. If I was, could you just imagine like, yes, you can't imagine about this billboard because you probably saw it at this point. If I saw this billboard and I was... I didn't see it. Driving by? I'm sorry, but like I'm gonna pull out the paintball gun.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like I hate to tell you. Like could you imagine if I'm just like, not me. The paintball gun. Out here being petty spaghetti. Oh, listen, I saw this thing, okay, this is so petty, but I saw it. And I was like, you know what, I need to tell Kale specifically about this. It was on TikTok, of course, and it says, we might have pulled the same man, but we will never be in the same lake.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Respectfully, you could never be me and disrespectfully, I'd never want to be you. Why are you blinking so hard? Because that reminds me of this one woman, the one who tried to extort me like years ago. Yeah. When I realized that we were with not only one of the same men, but two of the same men. And I was just like, how? Like, we're not the same. Do you ever wonder how that happens when you hear stories like that? Like, and then you don't want to get in the comparison game of like comparing yourself to this other woman, but just naturally, you're like, okay, I know this is me, and I know this is her. How did we pull two of the same guys? Well, and there's two people like that. There's the one from the show, and then there's one from real life. How the fuck? Oh, wow. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Um, I like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Remember when the media was like being so scandalous about me and talking about how I was with Josh Murray, Robbie Hayes and and so was I know who you're about. So was it me and aandastant and it's like okay Well first of all I could see that right like you guys have some similarities where you they have a type And y'all have a type like if that was real I could see yeah Yeah, yeah, but I'm just like why first of all why is the media so shady that's number one number two Again, like how does stuff like that happen? I mean, I can see where it could happen for you guys,
Starting point is 00:55:08 because like I said, you got like similarities and like having the same type, but the girls that, the two girls that I'm referring to, like not the same in any way shape or form, like nothing. You know what my dad's always said about shit like that? He's always said that person's either greedy or lost. They don't, we'll let it be known I have them first. They don't discriminate against any type.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It's just like whatever's going to lay down or they're just confused and they're trying to hit whatever from every angle to see what sticks. And yes, I feel like that's a very common to say, oh, she was after me, it's petty, but it's true. You lowered your standards after me, I guess. Goodbye. Or I got fat, I don't know, what are the other?
Starting point is 00:55:59 Oh, I got. Okay, listen, we had this come through on the Facebook group and it Okay, listen, we had this come through on the Facebook group and it says, okay, be honest, no need to get in a heated discussion. This is the first thing that we get in heated discussions evidently. Never, never, never.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Is it weird to have a kid-free baby shower? We can't find somewhere that can fit everyone in their kids. I'm looking for a nice and honest opinions. And it's your baby shower, do whatever you want. If you don't want kids at your baby shower, people don't have kids at their wedding. It's your day and honestly, you're the pregnant one. So if you don't want kids there,
Starting point is 00:56:35 don't let there be kids there. That would be fine with me, a girl's day out. Okay, I think that you're allowed to do whatever you want to do at whatever event that you're hosting. So like whether that be a wedding, a baby shower, a birthday party, I know that you and I have talked about this before, kids' birthdays, parties, and people bringing like other children.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I think whatever you decide, I think it just also needs to be clear on the invitation that there's like not plus some, you know or like maybe the theme could be girls day out or like girls brunch and then it's like no You know no children. I personally see nothing wrong with that and You know if people can't make it because they don't have a sitter They don't have someone to watch their kids. Unfortunately, that's just what it is and you know, it's your day And especially if you can't find not only that just what it is. And you know, it's your day. And especially if you can't find not only that, but it's like if you're doing finger foods or even like a meal, like, do you feed the kids knowing that they're not going to eat a full meal?
Starting point is 00:57:34 You know what I mean? So like, that's extra funds. I personally love the idea. I think it's really cute. The baby shower should be about you and your baby and no one else's kids. the baby shower should be about you and your baby and no one else is kids. Um, I think that a kid-free baby shower is probably pretty common. It leaves the baby showers that I've been to. I mean, if you're hosting like a family baby shower, just get's tricky because then it's like, okay, what if your sister has like kids and they want to be involved at this baby shower and it's kid-free? Like, I don't think it's fair for certain people to be allowed to bring their kids and then others not. Like, if it's kid-free, just let it be kid-free. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't care if your sister
Starting point is 00:58:21 has kids. If it's kid-free and you don't want kids there, your sister needs to abide by your wishes. Yeah, I think a kid-free baby shower is absolutely a phenomenal idea. You're probably drinking champagne, not the person who's pregnant, but you're probably having a lot of people drink champagne. And I just don't know if some of the baby shower games that would be played at baby showers would be kid friendly anyway? Yeah, I mean, like pin the dick on the thing or whatever? Or like chugging, if it's a, if it's a coed baby shower, which I know are definitely more popular today than they were like when we were kids, the chugging, a chugging liquor out of a baby bottle for the men.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Like, those aren't kid friendly anyway. So do your day exactly how you want to. Do not feel bad and don't let people guilt trip you into thinking that you should have kids there. It's your day. I also want to say that I believe in any co-ed celebration. So like if it's your husband or your significant other, you guys are having a baby and his friends come and your friends come and his family comes and your family comes, I'm totally game for that.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Same for wedding showers, same for co-ed, bachelor, bachelor, like totally game for all that. that and honestly I think it's probably more fun. I definitely think that the traditions of like I don't know if it's like just like white people that did like when I was growing up and we went to my the little baby shower from me in the basement It was his entire family including men and that was the first time I had ever seen anything like that And I was like wow that this is really cool and it's to me it was different, but I guess to them It was you know, they they did it all the time I Don't understand where the like unless it's the theme of it, which is like girls night out girls say out whatever Why men were never included in these things?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Because just like the baby showers, not just for the mom, like it's the husband or the other mom or whoever the other parent is, it should be a celebration for them too. I mean, I have heard of people doing like guy baby showers. Have you ever heard of this? No. We're like, guys coming together and host their own. And do what? Bring diapers? I don't freaking know. I've never been to one because I'm not a dude.
Starting point is 01:00:52 But like if I, if I had been to one, I would tell you more about it. But one of my girlfriends was saying that her husband like wanted his own. Period. And it's like, what do you do at one of those? Like, do you bring? Well, they should coach each other on how to actually be supportive in the labor delivery room. They should also practice doing things with one hand, because moms do it all.
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Starting point is 01:04:32 What does that even mean? It means it's his job to do. Yes, I don't believe that women, that's a weird thing for women to do at our big age. Like, why though? No, I didn't do that. I think it's not 31, and my pussy gets wet for a reason. I'm not giving a dry ass fucking hand job
Starting point is 01:04:49 with dry hands on a dry dick. Like that's just not a thing. But what if you got lube or what if you sucked it for a second? But then why am I giving a hand job? Either just finishing it in my mouth or sit on it. I'm not using my hand. That's weird. I don't think that's weird.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You get what? forearm cramps. That's because you haven't done it enough. That's because you're slackin' and you're slackin'. Okay, I do think that traditionally, hand jobs should be a main job. But what if you just need like a little quickie like something and you know that that's like a couple-minute job? That's definitely
Starting point is 01:05:31 the move. Yeah, but like I'm not gonna do it. Why? I just I think that you need to be a little bit more descriptive on like why you're not doing this like I feel like a therapist a sex therapist at this point right now I hear a sex bird. I'm a sex bird. Can you tell me? Okay, so you have never never have you ever given a hand shandy to any of your baby dads or Elijah, no never no, why am I my blown? any of your baby dads or Elijah? No. Never. No. Why am I my own blown? Christie.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I got sexually assaulted on the beach when I was like 11 and some guy made me put my hand down his pants and give him a hand job. That was the last hand job I gave. Okay, so this might be like a trauma response situation of why like you just can't- That was a love hand job. Yeah, that's literally not okay. Why is this the first time I'm hearing about this?
Starting point is 01:06:28 I don't know. I actually randomly thought about it the other day and I was like I'm pretty sure that sexual assault But I only realized that the other day so wait, can you tell me more about this? You were just like on the beach. Yeah me and my cousin well She's not my cousin anymore because it was my mom's ex-husband's niece. So she's not my cousin. I still call her my cousin because we grew up together. But we went, um, we were in Ocean City, New Jersey, and we were on the boardwalk and we were just like walking around and these guys came up to us who were like 17, 18, 19. And you know those like, and they were like, oh, it's not like walk on the beach. And we're okay like we were like 11 and 12 and we were you know the the big lifeguard tower things like that are on
Starting point is 01:07:11 this end yes we went up there and it was three guys and Jess me and her name was Bri of Briata and they like made us do stuff to them it was actually really foul did you try to advocate for yourself? no I was 11 I had no idea what I didn't know what any of it was like I didn't even I don't even made us do stuff to them. It was actually really foul. Did you try to advocate for yourself? No, I was a leaven. I had no idea what I didn't know what any of it was. Like I didn't even, I don't even think I knew that men, I didn't even, when I was a leaven, I don't think I knew that boys had penises
Starting point is 01:07:34 and girls had vaginas. I can tell you for sure I didn't. I don't think I knew that. Like I don't even think I knew what I was touching. And so when I just like unlocked this memory because I was thinking about, well, one, I was, she popped up on my Facebook feed. But then I was talking about these hair wraps things.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And I was like, well, I went on two vacations as a child. I went on one tomorrow, each one I was eight and one two ocean city when I was like 11. And so I was thinking about that and I didn't get the hair wraps then. And that came up and I was like, oh my god Oh my god, that's a pretty sure that sexual assault that definitely a sexual assault was this person the same age as you
Starting point is 01:08:12 No, he was like 17 18 19 17 18 19 there was three of them and two of us like is that not I Don't know I had no idea call it until I remembered the memory. I was like oh I'm so sorry that that happened to you. I mean don't know. I had no idea. Call it. Until I remembered the memory. I was like, oh, I'm so sorry that that happened to you. I mean, don't be sorry. I didn't realize until now. That literally breaks my heart to think of some of the things that like young girls. I mean, I'm sure it happens to boys just as often. I've actually heard that it's just as common, if not more common for it to happen to boys than it is to girls.
Starting point is 01:08:45 But just think about something like that and how it impacts someone's life forever. Yeah, I mean, thankfully it didn't impact mine forever because I don't think, I think just in my specific situation, I didn't know what was going on, so I didn't know it was right or wrong, so I didn't even question it until like the other day. You know what I mean? And at that point, it's like the realization is like, okay, I am okay, I'm fine. I think worse happened to me from that specific incident. I wonder if Brianna remembers. I should ask her. Actually, I shouldn't. Because I don't, I don't want to trigger anything for her. You know what I mean? Because the same stuff was going on with her too, right? That's so horrible. Okay, next
Starting point is 01:09:30 listener topic. What's everyone's thoughts on name calling in a relationship? It's really messing with me mentally. I have asked that he stopped name calling in arguments, but says if there's truth then he has every right to say it. He then goes as far to say, I have low IQ, I'm a Dumbie, I'm stupid as shit, what's wrong with my head? That's literally verbal abuse, mental abuse, emotional abuse. That's absolutely not okay, and you should absolutely leave that person. I'm sorry, if someone has a low IQ, you don't, that does not give you the right to call on these things at all.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I think that it's probably pretty commonplace for people to name call. I don't think it's right by any means, but I think in a heated moment, to sometimes you say things that you know that you shouldn't have said and almost immediately catch yourself doing it and wanna like retract the thing that you said. I don't think he said. If he's justifying it, like I called my baby dad weird the other day and I shouldn't have said that he was weird but like immediately I was like,
Starting point is 01:10:36 I shouldn't have said that. But to call someone, all of those things and also justify it is so foul. I think if someone did this to me, that would tell me a lot about them and what level they would stoop to when mad. I'm also not going to stop thinking about these things that were said to me because what do they say? Like, drunk man's thought. Dr are sober thoughts thoughts yeah like it's kind of like that mentality right of you're saying things that you actually do mean but it took you to get to this point to actually bring them out so now I feel like there's truth to that that you do think those things. So now
Starting point is 01:11:25 my head's going to be on a swivel. Commenting on someone's IQ or intelligence level is something that that person most likely can't change their IQ or their intelligence level or their comprehension or and I'm not saying that these things are anything that she actually has or is going through but like those are things that those are things that you, it's like making fun of someone, the way someone looks. You can't make fun of the way someone looks if they were born that way, they were born that way.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Like, they can't change that. Okay. And does it not say more about the person that's saying these things than the person that they're saying it to? Yeah. I mean, and we've all named called someone at some point. And I'm not saying. But like, I think the older we get, the less we try to do it, the more we're acknowledging
Starting point is 01:12:09 that that's not okay. And that's like, not something. I mean, when I was younger, be like, are you fucking stupid? No, you can't say that to people when you're an adult. Like, you cannot argue with your spouse saying, are you fucking stupid? Are you dumb? Like, those are things that you just can't say. I mean, Will and I definitely... Oh, I definitely done that. Do stuff like this whenever we were mad. Yeah. But we were like 19.
Starting point is 01:12:31 That's what I'm saying. So like, I would hope with the progression of, you know, everyone's evolving and moving, you know, hopefully leaving those types of things out of their relationships now or leaving those relationships if it brings out that type of person in you Because I've definitely been there. I'm not saying I've never done it. I'm just saying like now I'm not gonna be like are you stupid are you dumb you have the intelligence level of a child like I can you just can't say those things Yeah, no One of my least favorite things is when someone gets mad and calls you a bitch That makes my spine literally crawl.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Like I cannot, if a girl says it to me, like whatever, a guy says it to me in a relationship, I'm immediately walking you. Like we're done. And also in this situation, I think it goes for like, anytime that you have addressed something in a relationship that bothers you and that person continues to do it, they have zero respect for themselves and zero respect for you.
Starting point is 01:13:34 So at that point, log off. I just don't, for the listener that wrote that in, I just, just leave. Yeah, I know it's easier said than done, but those comments, they hold weight. They definitely hold weight about as much weight as the next two foul plays that were about to read. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Speaking of BetterHelp and after listening to this episode, you know that I do need to go to therapy and there is nothing that is
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Starting point is 01:14:47 Well, it's absolute insanity in the best possible way. But you can hear that for yourself when you listen to my podcast the morning after with me, Kelly Stafford. And yes, Matthew joined sometimes too. It's parenting, it's marriage, it's friendships, and it's football, it's our life. So check out the morning after with me, Kelly Stafford at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Okay, and I'm already scared because I just read one line of each of them. I don't know who wrote them in, so I'm going to read one.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Hi ladies, love the pod. I'm a huge fan from England'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- I'm going to re- really well for her age. She goes to these old people clubs around three to four times a week, goes out more than me, might I add. Anyway, we were talking about how fractured friendships can sometimes can be sometimes, and there will always be people in life that you don't like. My grandma proceeds to tell me about how caddy and bitchy it is to spill at the ripe age of 98 and tells me about how the person she hates at her club has invited all of these ladies to her house for tea and cake But did not invite my grandma. She went into a tirade about how she's not her cup of tea British at its finest and that she wouldn't even have liked to have gone as she doesn't like her I told her she sounded like she was back in the school playground and she said that if she would have been invited She still would have gone to show her face and have
Starting point is 01:16:26 something to do. I sat there thinking if this is how 98-year-olds behave there's no hope for us ladies. The stories I have heard from them all having arguments at this club and siding with different people is like a cult. I truly believe that when we get older we just rootvert back to our childlike behaviors as the caddiness is real. Love you ladies. I mean, it makes sense because what else are they going to do at that age? Like they're just going to reminisce on the old times and just be happy? No, like life is real and shit happens and people don't like each other.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Listen, my dad has said for forever at this point, when you get a certain age in life and you're dealing with your parents, it's like a role reversal. Like, you become the parent and they become the child. And I've seen it so many times, sometimes the things that my nanny says to me on the phone when I will spill the tea to her and the response that I get back. I almost think it's like they reach a point of their give a fuck meter that they just truly do not care. And so that's where this behavior starts to happen. Is it that they don't care or is it that they have lived so much life that they are just seeing it from all ends? And it's like, it just is what it is.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Like, we're not going to try to be the bigger person, we're not going to try to be the better person. We just are who we are, and just is what it is. Like, we're not gonna try to be the bigger person, we're not gonna try to be the better person. We just are who we are, and this is how it is. I mean, I don't know. I think that there is some truth to that. And, you know, at 98 years old, you've lived a lot of life. I mean, at 31, I feel like I've lived a lot of life. And at 31, I feel like being the bigger person
Starting point is 01:18:02 whenever I have been the bigger person has gotten me absolutely nowhere. So I feel bad for the bigger person whenever I have been the bigger person has gotten me absolutely nowhere. So I feel bad for my children as adults and my grandchildren for the advice that they're gonna get from me. Listen, I was just having this conversation other day about being the bigger person and like what makes you the bigger person is the bigger person, the person that turns a blind eye to the bullshit that's done to you, or is the bigger person the person that addresses the bullshit that's been done to you and advocating for yourself. Like that to me is one of the biggest life debates that I have pretty often in various different situations. I could not imagine though, living in like a nursing home style community where you never escape these people.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Yeah, imagine it's the same people you went to high school with. Yeah, and you're just like living, doing all these same things, that all of these same people are doing, and you are just wrapped up essentially in this cold. Yeah, I'm gonna be talking shit too. At 98, I'm gonna be talking shit too. At 98, I'm gonna be talking shit. No, because I, like, I truly, that I can think of,
Starting point is 01:19:11 I don't have beef from anyone from my high schools. Like I went to two different high schools. I don't have beef with any of them. So I, like, I feel like we'd have a good fucking time. Like we'd be talking about like, we, my one friend Mariah and I, we text from time to time, and we talk about like,
Starting point is 01:19:27 like we don't shit talk. We're just like, how is so and so? Like did you, like if she ran into someone or she saw, like we talk good shit, it's not like bad shit. If that makes sense, I don't know what makes sense. So like, and I don't have beef with anyone for my high school. So like I have a fucking great time.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Like we would be able to catch up on all the things that we did between high school and like my 90th birthday. You know what I mean? Like it would be fucking great time. Like, we would be able to catch up on all the things that we did between high school and my 90th birthday. You know what I mean? Like, it would be a great time. I don't think, I was catching up with one of my high school veterans the other day, because she's moving back to Atlanta. And I was like, oh wow,
Starting point is 01:19:58 this is gonna just be like high school 2.0. And we were like catching up about people that had like blocked us from high school 2.0 and we were like catching up about people that had like blocked us from high school and stuff and still like live in basically high school as an adult. That's childish. And I'm like why are we blocked though? Like I don't understand like what we did. Like Did we borrow that person's ti 83 calculator or whatever and like not return it and they're still pissed off. Like I have no idea like why this person hates us so much.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I don't know. I just think if I was in a freaking nursing home, I would be petty spaghetti because I would have Jack shit else to do. So if you stir in the pot, yeah, I would just be stirring the pot. That's that on that. Okay. Other foul play about two weeks ago, me and my husband started to mess around. To paint the picture, I'm on the bed, all fours with my butt up. Love that
Starting point is 01:20:52 position. Love that for you. My husband started to massage my lower back and as you probably already know, air started going into my lady's heart. So I tell him to stop doing that because it's too much air is going in. I turn over and he lifts my legs up to insert. The moment my legs go up, I let out the meanest, longest, loudest cleave that I have ever witnessed. My husband and I were dying. I wasn't embarrassed at all until this next time. After a week, we are doing anal, doesn't happen often, so he was excited. Well, in the time of him going in and out, air was pushing in. As you can imagine, the loudness, long as air came out of my butt, I was so embarrassed. I said, this is your fault when he started rolling on the floor, dying, laughing. Oh, and he lost his erection that time. Thanks for sharing my story, ladies. I look forward to foul play every week. Okay, you know what, this story reminds me of?
Starting point is 01:21:47 What? It is that meme where it's like, if you were filling me with dick instead of air, we wouldn't have this problem. Oh, mm-hmm. That one. But no, that this, that sounds like something I would do. Like, I'd be like, this is your fault.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Also, I wouldn't have cared about the quees, but I would absolutely care of air coming out of my butt because I feel like that's like the fact that he lost the erection mode, that's where I would have been like, wow, like I hate my life, you know? At this point of my life, I will officially say, like quees aren't going to embarrass me, I'm probably going to be like, can you stop? Like, can you immediately stop because it's getting to the point that I might get embarrassed gonna be like, can you stop? Like, can you immediately stop? Because it's getting to the point that I might get embarrassed, but like keep going, but like stop?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah, like maybe don't take it out all the way and put air in there, you know? Yeah, like stop filling me with air. Yeah. Fill it with dick instead. If I've farted during sex, I'm going to sing for a minimum of two weeks. I'm going to sing for a minimum of two weeks. I'm going to sing for the rest of eternity because I never talked to that guy again after I farted during sex.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Like I never talked to him again. That's a real hate. I saw that TJ Maxx once. And I was like, wait, you did this? Yeah, I still remember that I told this story that happened to me? And you farted during sex and then never talked to him again? Yes. No, I don't recall because you're so much stupidity that goes on in this podcast
Starting point is 01:23:15 that I don't specifically recall. I would be because we were making, we were like, oh my god, if we farted during sex, like we would die, like we would be so embarrassed. And then I was like, I've been keeping the secret. Like I did do this. And then you saw him at TJ Maxx? Yes. And his name was TJ.
Starting point is 01:23:31 First of all, you guys were just trying to be Max and East's and then you got caught up in your fart game. Like, oh my God. I literally can't. Oh my God. No, I cannot. No, no, I'm just not going to any of the same places. Like if that was a situation, I'm just not going to. I never saw again. That was the same to your sister. I never saw him again.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Did you guys talk about it when you were there? No, no. Did you guys even talk? That's when he told me about the girl that also slept with my baby daddy that I also slept with. And so that's when I learned that homegirl that tried to extort me also slept with him. So it was like all that. And I was like, so you found all that out in TJ Maxx. I did. I did. Listen, the kind of stuff that sometimes you find out,
Starting point is 01:24:15 like in grocery store conversations are like random run-ins with people. Honey, I got some stories that I could tell of shit that people have told me in the grocery store about like not gonna name people I thought about my baby dads all the time on accident and I swear to fucking God I swear on everything. I love my children my house everything I do not ask for it and
Starting point is 01:24:40 People just be coming out of their mouth thinking it's a part of the conversation as if I already know and I have to pretend I already know and then inside I'm like shitting my pants because I was like I didn't know that. Okay I always get told why are you inquiring about this stuff? It's like first of all no matter like I was just on the bread aisle like I I'm absolutely nothing to do with this I was not asking about your business quite frankly don't want to know about your. I was not asking about your business. Quite frankly, don't want to know about your business. Now that I know about your business, I certainly don't want to know about your business. I'm going to be more low key with your business.
Starting point is 01:25:14 A bridal shower. All girls, no men. And so I was like, I can't believe someone so lives and so lives here. And I just was like, mm-hmm. I didn't know what to do with that information. I know what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. I was like yeah. Oh, okay. Interesting because I didn't know that that was the location
Starting point is 01:25:33 that that person lived at. I had no idea. You told me and I didn't ask for it. I didn't even know you knew him. Oh, not no. I got a call. For those reasons we're out. I got a call the law. Call the law, I hope that it was okay. I hope you're, you stay safe. I hope just, I'm so glad you live in a community that has like a gate. Me as well. If you guys have not followed us on
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