Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Ugly Pumpkins Are Chic

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

CC250: Lindsie and Kail aren't big Halloween fans, they explain why. It's pick on Kristen day apparently because Lindsie calls out her for being shady in the comment section, and also outs her as a dabbler in butt sex during Foul Play! Kail's suburban is a disaster and shares a story that every mom could probably relate to. Lindsie is invested in the Kylie/Travis scandal so she spills all that she knows in case someone needs a catchup.. and question to all parents - do you snoop in your kids rooms? For Foul Play - dabbling in buttholes and boogers! Thank you to our sponsors! Body Guardz: Go to BodyGuardz.com/coffee to protect your phone today Clare: Go to clare.com/COFFEECONVOS for 10% off your order Upside: Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code coffeeconvos to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more Vegamour: Go to Vegamour.com/coffeeconvos and use code coffeeconvos to save 20% on your first order Wooga: Download June’s Journey today! Available on Android and iOS mobile devices, and on PC through Facebook Games

I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you? This is coffee convos with kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels kale That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship family and life in the public eye I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's kale and Lindsay This is kale Lowry reporting live from coffee convos podcast Lindsay. Where are you? This is Lindsay Chrisley reporting live from coffee convos podcast as well. Good morning. How are you? I'm fine. I'm a little congested. My throat is scratchy. I think This weather change is really just fucking me up. Oh, sorry. I was listening to Remy boys. I'm apologize

You were doing what? Did you hear that? Yeah, what was it this? Is that our vibes right now, that's our yeah, yeah for sure God bless us God bless us How how are you doing Kailin? Like I feel like I have talked to you, but like not talked to you I'm okay. I had a really chaotic weekend. I'm just so tired and the weather is just so shitty here But Creed had like a little cute Halloween parade at school today, and it was so cute and he was so happy. So I got some pictures and It was super cute and then I came to the office to record with you. Can I ask you a question about Halloween?

Yeah Everyone's gonna get so sick of me talking about Halloween because I also talked about it on Southern T about just like how much I freaking hate it I absolutely loved Creed's costume and I love when kids are like under Five years old and have like the cutest little costumes and it just like doesn't feel like it's scary And it just feels like they're just having a good time and enjoying the vibes Do you let your kids dress up in scary things? I don't typically do Halloween stuff with my kids. So I don't really have a say I give them to their dads But didn't you guys used to at one point? I feel like I made up or possibly didn't but didn't y'all like used to trick or treat together?

We did at one point and they were not scary things Um Remember that time remember that time that you lost your shit when hobby let Lincoln dress up as Pennywise That's what I was gonna say is that hobby hobby loves to do like scary stuff and so does Lincoln Um, I think Isaac's kind of over it, but um Luxe we went to the costume store yesterday because I completely just like didn't remember about the Halloween parade so we went to the costume store and

Luxe picked out a Flash costume and then um Creed picked out Iron man, so they just like naturally grab it. Yeah, but then when I asked Luxe like if I was like is your dad gonna take you Trick or treating and he was like, I'm gonna be Michael Myers and I was like, oh my god Like but I don't know if I don't know if that's true or not. I'm not sure Um, we don't love that. We do Love flat. What did you say flash and iron man? Yes, like I'm I'm big on like the superheroes Princesses like all of that but once I show. Yeah, yes once they phase out of that phase

I'm like, okay, just get with it like no one needs to be looking spooky I don't like it. Don't show up at my door also and also don't freak me out if you're walking in the streets And I do want to say that I feel like you're either one or the other You're either like a major Halloween person or you don't care about it at all Um, and also, you're either like the type that likes going into haunted houses and doing spooky shit and like watching spooky movies Or you don't see I can get a little bit of a surprise Or you don't see I can get I can get behind like a scary movie once in a while, but I'm not I just don't like I don't know. I just don't

Love holidays. I just don't Well, I mean in fairness I think that there's like more to why you don't love holidays because it's just always like Been an issue with you with not having parents. I'm sure And so I'm sure that has a little bit to do with it But holidays are kind of exhausting to be honest. They are they're very exhausting and like I'm not fighting with these people over this over some fucking candy. I'll go buy my kids some candy at the goddamn store by will actually said that um, he was

taken um Jackson to the store to pick out candy and they were doing movie at home and like not going trick-or-treat But I am taking Jackson. I'm talking all this shit. I'm hypocrite I'm talking all this shit about how I'm not doing Halloween yet. Will's not taking him trick-or-treating and they're sitting inside In movie watching and I'm taking Jackson to the trunk retreat at the church but I also feel like that's very different because It's not like spooky. It's just like kind of like fall festival like they just have like snacks and like Yeah, I we did we did halloween makeup on sunday at the house like we do my fourth

We did my fourth annual halloween makeup and the kids wanted to do that So I felt like that was like a cute little halloween thing with me and the kids and then creed had his um Little halloween parade. So like we do little things like that, but I'm not going trick-or-treating I mean if they had like a trunk or treat or something at the school or at Um, like nearby we would maybe do that, but I don't yeah. No, I mean I kind of like will survive for halloween Same. I'm really getting along with will these days. Um, okay Yeah, we had like a a big big conversation and don't want to go into the details of the conversation because it's like kind of private, but

Yeah, I think we're just like in a really good place and uh, the toxicity seems to Be on the behind us. Yeah, and It just feels it feels good. It's like a breath of fresh air Um, but I do think that when you go through a divorce or you've been with someone for so long That you kind of have to go through the toxic shit And then just like get it over with. Um, wish I would have done a couple of things different But at the same time, I don't know if I would be at the place that I'm at Now with the situation if all those other things didn't happen, right?

Yeah, I'm I'm not very I'm not there yet evidently with I actually cried last night because I was so So why yes, because of just the like the bullshit that I the text messages the emails like I will admit 1100 100,000 percent that I have Contributed to baby daddy issues and things like that in my lifetime. I absolutely have But Lindsay when I when I tell you that I don't respond to emails in and texts and things I don't I just don't give them the time of day

um But two of the dads specifically are still nitpicking. It's just it's exhausting I know who they are. I'm not going to call them out, but I know them It's exhausting and I just feel like at what point do what point do we get past this like at At what point do we move forward? I don't know what the answer to that is kale because I think that you just have a lot going on um Yesterday, I had to drop something off for Jackson and I don't know if you ever

Deal with this, but it's like regular for will and I It's like Jackson wants something from here or he wants something from there And he never remembers like to put it in his go-between bag And so will's constantly like driving over here and slinging mba2k at the door And I'm constantly driving over there Like giving him something the text I got yesterday. Do you do you text before you're on your way? Oh, yeah, absolutely, but I mean at this point I'm just like I don't care what you see at my house because I don't have anything to hide right like

You see someone over here like it's not that big of a deal when we first divorced I was like Let's text each other like I don't want to pull up and like someone be there I think that will and I are both like in the same place step in the same direction of like You do your thing. I do my thing. I'm gonna trust that you're gonna do the right thing by Jackson He's gonna trust that I'm do the right thing by Jackson. I'm not gonna Bitch just don't give me anything to bitch about right

and Move on but I think some of that that's going on with your situation Probably has to do with just like back and forth situations over a period of time and so Yeah, um yesterday. I got this text from will Um tomorrow is hat day and he is requesting a stitch hat that he has at your house three question marks Yes, I can drop it off on my way to walk this evening He is also gonna wear his stitch thing to school on Wednesday

The three the three question marks was a nice touch. That's fine Like thank you so much for letting me know all the details that I'm gonna pick my child up and he's gonna be in stitch costume Um, also, why do our kids think that we just like run around for them? and like we're a taxi and We're fetcher and we're amazon. Didn't you know that? Yeah Yeah Who told them that? Listen, I I don't know but I'm I actually am tired of it myself because all my baby dads live now

They just don't live close to each other and so now it's like Joe is from my house. He's about 25 minutes a little maybe a little Yeah, like 20 minute 25 hobby is about 20 Um, and then Chris is obviously an hour So it it now it is a pain in the ass to go drive something to somebody, you know That's so much. That's three three directions too many sister. That's why I was crying last night

I wasn't even crying because of what was said to me I was more so crying because I'm like Like I did this to myself Mm-hmm. Like I really fucking did this to myself and I didn't learn my fucking lesson not once not twice But fucking three times like And I just kept I was just like why did I let this like how did I get here? You know and um, so I was really just mad at myself and then I sucked it up and I was fine, but It's exhausting. We're taxi chauffeurs. Um

Meal were chefs were everything and I'm just their piss. But yeah doctors Mm-hmm. Yeah, all the things if my child literally comes home with another note that Um, he sneezed and went to the school nurse because he thinks he's coming home I'm not sure what's gonna specifically happen But I think will is like fed up with that shit. I always go up to the school and pick him up and Will's like, why are you picking him up because he's sneezing up at the school like

Because I guess I'm a doctor now and like I need to go and pick him up Uh and nurse him back to health, which he's not even sick. So that was lux the other day at a at a freaking physical appointment I was like, well, I'm glad we're here because I think he might have a sinus infection because under his eyes was sore Um, and she's like, no, I actually don't he you know, he he has allergies, you know, he's allergic to grass pollen Whatever whatever, so I'm like, okay Lux looks at the doctor and goes so I have to go to school and she was like, yes So she literally wrote a note saying Non-contagious allergies because I was like, I'm not gonna get a call from the school in 20 minutes to come pick him up

when I just you know what I mean, so Um And Lincoln will do the same thing. He's got allergies, you know, he's he's got his epi pen now and he'll be like I have a cough. I can't go If Jackson goes to the school nurse one more time like they're probably gonna move the nurse's office so that one He won't find it right but like two It's so funny because he does not call home like he doesn't have the nurse call home When he knows he's with will but like on the days that he's at my house. Oh call home every time

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You're used to seeing me having to have this picture perfect bow on the life that I live and frankly That's not who I am. I'm a little wild. I'm a little crazy and I love really really hard I really hope that you'll join me every Tuesday as I bring on friends Family and some guests that I'm pretty sure you're going to recognize Listen and follow unlocked now on apple podcast spotify amazon music youtube or your favorite podcast app Specifically uh Kristen, where are you can they even hear her? Is she on producer mode? I'm present

There she is. I'm in host mode um Can you tell me about the attack that you launched against kale and I on facebook? Which one what the facebook group specifically? um the fan page What which attack so I need to go look. I don't I think I missed this So I am just like scrolling through there and I see where someone has put a meme up there And the meme says me as a lawyer now. Why the fuck would my clients do that?

Shady asked Kristen is in the comments And she's like that is me with my clients in general Wait what I'm missing something Kale's concerned she didn't see it. Yeah, where do I find this? It's oh, it's like far down on the facebook group So like you're not going to be able to see it But it's just a meme and it says me as a lawyer and then it says now Why the fuck would my clients do that?

And Kristen all up in the comments like the only thing you can see is Kristen's comment like as I'm scrolling And it says that is me with my clients in general. So I'm like, oh, okay, like Do you actually asked me if I was I forget what you said to me and I was like immediately are you talking shit about us? I'm trying to find it. Hold on. I'm gonna see if I can pull it kale. Do you feel offended by this? I don't I don't need to help out. Hold on kale. I found it. I'm gonna tag you right now Kristen, do you regularly have this thought when dealing with kale and myself daily? Yeah

For sure, I mean, yes That's I asked myself that oh, I say what the fuck a lot. This is why I get this sport because I always have my what the fuck face Which is raising my eyebrows to the point where I had a lot of like accordion style wrinkles going on and it Shut the fuck up with your accordion style wrinkles. Wait. So can you tell me? Um, are you having more of these thoughts when you're dealing with me or with kale? Or does it depend on the day depends on the day? Okay, 1 000 and then obviously there's other times

My favorite is when like something's going on with one of you and then kory comes in with his shit And I'm just like listen. I'm tapped out. I only have room for one person shit right now and it's not gonna be yours Oh my god, could you imagine like my okay? Yeah, no I just wanted to um find out what was exactly going on there. Kristen. It was yeah, it was you know pure honesty All out of love and I didn't specifically name anyone. So, you know, oh no, we know Can I tell you guys what happened to me so far today? I went through a drive-through Huh without my wallet today Oh, I've done that it sucks. Yeah, it's actually bad and I was like I got to the window and I was like

I forgot my wallet and then Also, there was something else that happened Kristen. What was it? Oh that happened today Might have been yesterday Kale, you don't even know what day it is like I'm concerned but this has happened to me many times before and it's like a conundrum, right? Because you realize you've ordered the stuff and they've probably already made it by the time you get to the window and you don't have the money so I remember like anxiety starts setting in and you're like, okay

I'm gonna tell them that like I'll be right back because I don't come right back. I went to mcdonald's instead. Okay um I remember the other thing I did so I I finished getting all the stuff for all the kids rooms upstairs and I Natalie was like I washed lincoln's new bedding. Um, because I like to wash it when it comes out of the package Tell me why I ordered a freaking twin sized comforter and we washed it before we realized what size it is So now we can't return it because it's been washed And I got it from pottery barn teen and it was a collab with kimora leesam and sun

So, you know how you add first of all pottery barn is not cheap and then on top of it was a collab with them So then they up. What is it called like? Um Mark it up. They mark it up The freaking thing I'm not going to say how much it was but it was very expensive and I can't do anything about it Because we washed it already That's oh blast That's a worse feeling. I'm sorry keel. That's okay. Are you are you okay? Are you gonna make it? I mean, I'm gonna make it

It'll be fine. Um speaking of rooms I saw that you tweeted Um, this was probably like maybe a week or two weeks ago But you tweeted just out of curiosity Parents of teens and preteens. Do y'all go in your kids room? Why or why not? Yeah, I wanted to talk about it on the podcast And we just didn't get a chance I wanted to know mainly for Mainly for isaac because isaac and lincoln their personalities are so different like

I I just don't have to check on lincoln the same way I have to check on isaac Um, and so I was just curious like I I do try to Um Honor, you know, his privacy and things like that so I'll knock and and stuff But I do have expectations for you know, vacuuming and cleaning up his room I don't make him do it every day, but I do make him do it before he goes to his dad's And he can vacuum take out the trash and sometimes I'll go in there to like clean up water bottles and stuff and just like

Um, but I don't I don't like snoop I don't go through his stuff. So I'm not a big Snooper of anything either, but jackson's only nine years old. So I can't really like comment too much on it Like maybe I'll be snooping whenever he's older um but I feel like unless they're giving you a reason that you feel like you need to snoop then like maybe it's just like Not a good idea because then they're gonna feel violated

um I don't know. I don't like I don't like messiness and like I like I like being clean and I like all the things to be cleaned and dusted and vacuumed and Trash taken out. So I think as long as they have habits to be able to do that and to clean up and They're not causing an issue Then maybe you should just like let it be but then I say that and we also have an open door policy at my house So like open door. He can't close it at all or he it just can't be locked We don't close doors in my house. Okay. Yeah, it's a weird. I don't know why I ever started that

I don't care Especially because you only have one child like I do allow doors closed because there's four kids and the little ones Do tend to annoy the older ones and go touch all their shit um And especially Isaac does get upset about it because he's very particular and where his things are how they're set up He's very much like everything has a place So when creed or luck's coming in touch things like he gets upset. So I do allow him to close the door I don't allow. I don't I don't not allow any of the kids to lock them. First of all locked doors terrify me

um And I kind of grew up in a house where I didn't feel like I needed to close the door because no one was I mean We didn't really have boundaries growing up. I talked about that on the crossover Um, we were all in everybody's business all the time all the time And so there was really no reason to close the door because that wasn't going to stop someone from being in your business so I just I hate closed doors and houses like I don't know why I I don't like locked doors for like bedrooms Um, even when will and I were married will would sometimes try to go and like close the door and lock it

so Jackson didn't just like bust in the room And it would give me anxiety that the door was locked. Like that's all I could think of is Like why is the door locked? So I just I don't know. I just really don't like it I don't love locked doors. It's just not my thing even my I don't lock my bedroom door either I don't even lock the bathroom if I'm in the shower because I just never know like if my kids need me or something. I just I can't now if I'm taking a shit. That's a different story Hmm. Yeah, actually, do you take a shit like in front of people? No, I mean my kids walk it They bust in on me all the time. That's why I started locking the door

Do you pee with the door open? Yes. Do you pee with the door open with a partner? Yes I pee in with the door open in front of christen in front of natalie in front of bone You peed in front of me. Oh, I'm sure I have I don't give a shit. Yeah. I mean you've never Never shit in front of me outside of the time that you had that diarrhea thing going on, but like Wait, I have to tell you something What? Yesterday

I'm not telling the full story, but I'm gonna tell it. No, I can't why because Literally, I'll tell it in a couple weeks like the full story But I'll give you the gist of it right now and then just remind me in like two weeks Because I'm just not prepared to like admit. I just need time to process it myself Okay, so there was an accident in my car yesterday. Um, nobody shit their pants. Nobody shit on the seat. Nothing like that, but um There was a shit smell in my car and um In the pickup line to go get lux So my friend emily texts me and she's like, hey, I'm at the doctor with one of my kids

Can you grab nash, which is her son that's in luxe's class and they're like little besties They call each other cousins, whatever. It's so cute. It's like, yeah, no problem. So when the boys are getting in the car I said, you know, the baby had an accident in the car seat like a major blowout and Um, it smells like poop in here. So just be ready and they were like, okay Well, tell me why lux sits in the back seat and starts throwing up because of the smell Hmm and I know when the teacher opened that back seat to like let the kids in like I know for a fact That smell probably smacked her in the face Wait, that is first of all just traumatizing like if someone opened my car door

And they smelled stewing shit Oh, I would be mortified also pissed at myself and pissed at whoever shit um Did you realize that like There was Shit residue on the car seat. I did not. Okay. So this was just like a literal stewing shit. Yeah Okay, so then you also had to clean up the car seat and the throw up I had a

Empty starbucks bag back there. So when lux started like I knew he was going to throw up I'm like, here's the bag like throw up in the bag. Why was my son holding the bag and throwing up on the floor? No, ma'am. So thankfully I have like the rubber mats over my regular mats So literally Elijah just took them out of my car because I I don't even know where he was when I called him and I was like I need help like can you please It's the same It's literally kale the same concept if you've ever been into just like a grungy bar

um And you go in there and the floor just looks like someone has thrown all like thrown up all over it And it's like the toilets right there. It's like that same concept like what exactly were you doing? That you couldn't like aim here and he's like mom. It's in my hair and then Nash just he's not even sick because he's he's not throwing up because he's sick He's throwing up because of the smell and nash is in the back seat laughing and he's like He's like my mom's car smells too. It's fine No, it doesn't smell like this. I promise you it doesn't smell like this

Then we become very alarmed for Nash immediately because we're like, okay. Well, what's going on in your mom's car? Just talking to me like It was so funny because he was just talking to us like everything was like he was not fazed. Yeah He was not fazed at all Can you also explain to me why when you become a mother? Does your car literally look like a dumpster fire because why does that happen? I don't know like it could be so clean and then you turn around the next day And there's just stuff everywhere like it looks like it

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I have to talk to you about this because I have been following it on tick talk I've been following it pretty much everywhere My google searches Are all about this The Travis Scott Kylie Jenner and I don't know how to say that girl's name sweet row sweet. Is that it sweet? Yeah, young sweet row um What do you think have you been following any of it? I have so yes, I have been following it's consumed my entire feed and normally I just like wouldn't even pay attention to it, but

um the rid the first thing I saw was her video saying like You're gonna act like you don't know me Um, and you weren't with me and so like that was the first video that I saw about the whole thing And I was like this bitch just wants clout and I was so annoyed for Kylie because I was just like Why are you doing this? Yeah And like leave the car to car Jenner's alone Um, and then as I am scrolling on tick talk every single person I follow and on my for you page is reporting on this

So I see everything and the evidence and the sneakers and the the pinky rings and the the dates with the march Winter wonderland shit and Kylie this and and and sweet row that and yeah, no, he's been cheating on her so what I found through the research that I've done Um, and don't know how much is true or not true but it has been said that Travis has been linked to

So what did you say your name was sweet row? Yeah, young sweet row young sweet row since 2013. Mm-hmm and They used to post pictures of each other on instagram. Um, so It was just always I guess assumed that they were in a relationship And then that went on for like a period of time and then Travis met Kylie in 2017 But everything that I have seen that seems most consistent is that he was with the other girl prior to

Even meeting Kylie meeting Kylie. I've got a lot to say about it But I want to get through like the details that I found and then I'm going to tell you like all my thoughts so He meets Kylie in 2017 Let's just go with This other girl was his girlfriend and he cheated on her with Kylie. Mm-hmm So For those of you who don't know who young sweet row is she is a 26 year old influencer

um She posted pics of herself on her birthday trip out skiing and travis was allegedly There he posted pics out skiing at the same day on instagram um, and That was in 2018 shortly after stormy was born They posted pictures. Sorry. I'm peeing. Um, they posted. Oh, wow. Okay They posted pictures one day apart in the same

Like winter area Yeah, which is You know when we talk about like hard launches or just like shady cryptic stuff that just happens on Social media, um to me like this is playing with fire because You were probably doing something that you weren't supposed to be doing It would I would venture out to say that Kylie has known about this girl for a long time like women know Everything so you're not going to hide something like that for it's just like not going to be undercover um

And but could she have been under the impression that this was an X Don't you think it's a little weird with as known as the kardashians are and their instagram presence that you would be so ballsy to go out on instagram and post pictures of yourself skiing knowing that Young sweet row also did like in the same place Well, so Kylie and young sweet row were going back and forth on some of their pictures There was like one picture that said um tell your baby dad I said thanks and then on one of the other ones

Kylie like responded in your dreams and then She gets young sweet row gets like layers and bangs bangs have always been her thing Then the next week or whatever Kylie posted with layers and bangs Oh, wow And then there's travis scott lyrics Um where he's allegedly talking about young sweet row and he says I'm a lot in the lot like something about booger sugar Like she likes the booger sugar

Blah blah blah blah blah, but she knows that my baby mom is a trophy. I have so many things to unpack here. Um They were also seen at a halloween party and She also accused him of being with her on valentine's day And there were tick-tocks about that. Don't know if it's true. Don't know if it's, you know, not true But then in 2019 Um, they split because Kylie accused travis of cheating Um, and now it's been said that he had been cheating with young sweet row

Um, allegedly they've crossed paths again with her, um, appearing to have posted pics of him Recently and claiming that she was uninvited and never Met like he claims that he's never met her in his life. And so to me I'm like, okay, if you're gonna lie about something. First of all, that's not even a believable lie. So To say like it really gets me that he says that He doesn't know this girl That that seems guilty that pisses me off too because clearly she has she has to have videos and pictures and gifs and text messages like

There's no way. There's no way And no one's crazy. I mean, I'm sure there are Crazy enough people but like the tick-tocks of her posting Photos with his shoes on the floor and You know, he's seen wearing those shoes like To me, it's all just super messy Um, and this is totally an unnecessary love triangle because it's like, okay. Well, if it was so great, why didn't you just stay with her? I think that

Well, can I also add something really quick? I need to add that like what is with Kanye and Travis being with girls that look just like their own? Like Cheney Jones resembles Kim and then young sweet row resembles Kylie Um Yeah, and if why like why are you even asking that? Why are you even maybe because of the clout with Kylie and how much? That could potentially have helped his sales like young sweet row couldn't have done that for him Let's just say that Kylie's a g because she stood by him through that whole astro world thing like If all of this stuff was going on behind the scenes and these are the things that he's been doing

It also was alleged that like maybe they have an open relationship Um, I don't believe that I don't believe they have an open relationship. I believe this specifically is cheating And I believe that he has two kids with Kylie and She very much is a benefit or an asset to him Um, it's almost like a business transaction. Yeah, it kind of feels like that Yeah on his end, but maybe she's doesn't

I don't want to speak for Kylie, but that's I mean because why else I just don't I believe someone can love two people like genuinely love two people at the same time Yeah, no, I don't I don't believe that you can love two people at the same time I believe that if you feel like you might love two people at the same time You don't need to be with either person Because inevitably someone gets hurt and it's not him because he's the one he is the one out here just running the streets being

a fuckboy like Has a woman home with his two kids Couldn't ask for more, but then that you know, we don't know Kylie personally. So, you know, maybe Maybe there's something that he's looking for that she doesn't have but at the same time if that's the case Why not just leave the situation? Because I think once you're once you have feelings so far invested There is I can look at this situation because I have no personal emotional investment

I'm looking at the situation very differently than someone who's in the situation, right like This young sweet row could be Very much in love with him. Um, it was also said that she was doing it for clout and that she's also done this to Drake um I don't know. Maybe Maybe Travis is unsatisfied in the one relationship and You know still holding on to what he knows he can like for sure have um

I don't know. I don't understand the mindset behind it. It's not something that I would do Um, and also I just think that it's so messy. Um I would venture out to say I could probably deal with a scandal situation And better if it was with someone that was like not from the past like what do you mean? Like what if it was just like this random? I'm not excusing cheating whatsoever. So before anybody says that you're saying Base like for like young sweet row and for Kylie you It would have been it made you feel better had it not been young sweet row because they had a pass before he met

Kylie Yeah, same same because you can't ever replace the history that they've had you can never replace Um, you can never go back in time like 100% And I guess you know it it opens up the argument of you know Okay, he cheated on Young sweet row allegedly with Kylie and then is now cheating on Kylie with her um Then it opens the question of who's the side chick and who's the main chick

I think they just go back and forth. I think that those are interchangeable and that sucks because He's laid down and had kids with two kids with one of them So in my opinion the loyalty should lie there, right? I agree. It's messy like it's so It's so messy hosts can't be trusted um And I just think that when People are doing stuff like this. They're very lost. Um

something else is Emotionally and mentally going on to make them make decisions like this. It's reckless. Um, I saw a tick tock that said like um only insecure people Like the thrill of the chase and the back and forth it's a very insecure thing because they're getting um that high of like

Oh, I'm I'm wanted like I'm gonna chase this and This person's gonna give in to me and they want me and it's like a constant It's a constant high. I feel like I couldn't imagine like doing that because I just wouldn't care enough like if I've If I've left a situation, I'm not going to go back and revisit that situation while I'm actively in a relationship Right. Yeah. No, would it be applicable if you know You've broken up like let's say hypothetically use them as an example travis and kiley break up

And they're just co-parenting. Um Then he's dating this other girl or you know re-seeing her whatever you want to call it I think that's okay If he's doing that on his own Time dime and not involving kiley in that but at the point that you're doing it like being you know, she's You're what do they call it sneaky link? Like no I just hate the sneaky link thing like we're too old for this shit

I am 33 years old and I can tell you right now. There will be no sneaky link. No, like why are we I'm not doing this Oh, remember me telling you that I felt so weird when Will and I were still sleeping together because we were sneaking around behind jackson's back Yes, it's literally like what the fuck are we like we're not doing this. We're not fucking doing this and it's like okay Why are like why are we hiding this like we were literally married for almost 10 years together 12 years um And we're just like high schoolers like driving over each other's house

Because we've talked so much shit And they've talked so much shit that people now that we've like expanded that to other people Now we have to hide it because people will look at us like we're freaking idiots And that's our biggest mistakes that we just all open our fucking mouths Like why can't we just all shut up? Yeah, like I have a friend who she really does a good fucking job like she Will she has one friend that she talks to her? About her her relationship problems and that's it. She doesn't repeat them again to anybody else See, that's real good. That's that's real good

That's real good See, I just I don't want to involve anybody in my stuff Um, but sometimes you feel like you need a listening ear or you go to a friend that you know that they've been there and so It's like, okay I'm going to divulge this information to them because I can relate to them on that level and maybe they can give me some guidance Or steer me in the right direction So that I don't do the same stupid things that they did But what I find is nine times out of ten when you go to the friend who has been through that

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Um, that's never happened to me. That's never happened to me Um chances are if I've gone through something it's because I was suspicious for a reason and My instinct was correct. Well people people in my life know that I hate surprises Like I hate them same. They're not fun for me. They're not exciting Don't do them. Don't think that you're going to do it and it's going to be a fun time. It's just not I don't like them So nobody around me better be acting suspicious because they're planning a surprise for me because I'm not going to be nice about it And also if you're acting suspicious and I'm already like already suspect No, like the surprise is just not going to be fun

Like I have ruined the surprise without even knowing what the surprise is because I'm pissed off that you're being suspect Mm-hmm. So no, this is this is actually never happened to me um, if I have thought a partner was being shady it's because they actually were um, and Yes, I do think that I'm a traumatized human as well But at the same time, I think gut instinct doesn't lie facts like trust your gut facts um I saw this and I just need to get your thoughts

It says stop asking my 12 year old if he has a girlfriend. He's 12 He's a child who likes comic books and screaming outside for no reason Relationships are not for children and also stop telling kids. You're so cute Handsome beautiful. I bet all the boys or girls will be trying to date you How about you're so kind you have such a great sense of humor if you want a society that goes more than skin deep You have to change the language and the culture starting at home. That's true Although i'm so guilty of saying all of these things I mean, I don't really talk about having a girlfriend if somebody else brings it up

um but People ask like my kids all the time and I do get a little annoyed. I can say um, my dad asked jackson this Literally every time they FaceTime. He's like you're just so cute and you have the most beautiful eyes And you're so handsome and I just love you so much And then that question is followed up with how many girlfriends you got five. I hate that I fucking hate it like so we were FaceTiming the other night and I said you can tell your papa that I said We don't do girlfriends in this house right now. We are focused and jackson. Let him know like we're focused on

sports school Church and family like that's it. We're not focused on girls. Don't worry about a girlfriend or 12. No, we got a lifetime to focus on girls and I can tell you that you know Suzanne and third grade is probably not going to be your wife Not susanne if she's named susanne in third grade. We need to talk to her parents Isn't that so funny when you hear kids names that like sound like so old school?

Yeah, and I do get alarmed by it I do because old school names are coming back which is so funny to me It's like can you imagine if you were just like a teacher? And you were going down through a roster and you get to like frank or like fred Craig isn't craig the male version name of karen I thought you're a craig you're a kevin Oh, you're a kevin. I don't know you're a

Somebody tell us like are you a kevin or are you a craig like I feel like it's a craig like call craig Oh, I know a couple in my phone Call craig. I don't know. I only know one. It's my childhood Um, no one actual craig. I know men who act like craig. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah same so much same Like my god. No, literally I gave jackson, uh I like presidential names for boys um

and just like Uh, what do they call them? Um Um, traditional like more traditional right style names Um, I know that you're like with the shit and like you like the I mean isaac and lincoln are pretty traditional Lincoln I'll give you that is it abraham lincoln. Yeah, really kale I would have never thought of it. Okay

um But creed and lux are not traditional names. They're like more modern. Yeah, they're modern names Mm-hmm. Are you a modern? Name Namer or a non Modern name namer. I feel like if I had another child Yeah, I already have my names. Are they modern or are they traditional? They're modern and they're southern. Okay. Yeah, and I'm not telling you just like you never will tell anybody your girl name

No, I'll never because I'll never have a girl and I'm maybe I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'll get a surrogate Just isn't listening like no the fuck you won't know the fuck you won't No The fuck you won't um, we actually had a long write-up on coffee combos podcast fans Facebook page And I wanted to read it because I think that maybe Whoever wrote this maybe interpreted what we were saying

Incorrectly and so did I just want to clear it up. Um, she says hi I just wanted to comment respectfully on the inmate portion of the last episode Please be kind when discussing women in prison relationships. I'm married to someone who is incarcerated. Am I crazy? Yes batshit But that's aside from being married to someone in prison I don't know if anyone else is a prison wife or in a relationship with someone incarcerated But we are some of the most mentally strong and resilient women I've ever encountered Do you have some mental problems for sure? But there are women married and in a relationship with free men who are also mentally unstable Of course, I'm sure some of the response narrative will be like

Oh, they didn't say all women sure agree My post is just to bring solidarity to other women who are in similar situations as mine Um, I have a master's degree and I'm heavily involved in social work within the criminal justice system I'm also heavily involved in working my husband's Uh, uh appeals case. He's 16 years and on a life sentence, but his case was granted An appeals process due to corrupt police and da in our area um, I did just want to say that I was more More referencing like your situation specifically like inmates

calling you and You not knowing them Wait, I'm sorry, but I my my memory is horrible I don't we were talking about we were talking about last week. Um, the The emt or whatever and then we got into the conversation about um Like having relationships in prison or whatever. Do you remember that? No No, you don't remember the person that was calling you. You were getting Terrence king. Yeah, I remember him. Yeah

So that's what we were talking about. So what is she so I don't understand like I'm not trying to be disrespectful I think she was triggered by Maybe something that was said or the way that it was said, but I can say I was only referencing to Your situations of you receiving letters and phone calls from inmates that you don't know Not someone who's married to someone who's in prison or in a relationship prior to But so when she says that some of the response narrative will be like, oh, they didn't say all women What does what is she referring to? I'm not sure Kristen. Do you know?

I think that If I remember this correctly There was just like a joke like an ingest comment made something about like guys that kill their whole families Meaning like we don't talk to guys that kill their whole families. Yeah I say that I don't I think it was yeah, I don't remember which one it was that said it um And then I think that there was just like maybe something was said regarding like women

Not being right in the head if they're You know dating or whatever inmates. Oh, I'm definitely not right in the head, but I've dated an inmate Right. So I think she's I think that she was triggered Thinking that maybe you guys were calling people like her out. I'm sorry. Yeah, definitely. I'm very sorry I I I'm very sorry. I did not I I will try my best to be more sensitive when it comes to this topic. I didn't mean um to disrespect anyone who has Um a loved one or a partner in prison

same um Kale, I want to play one tick tock before we do foul play. Um when I saw it. I was like, okay uh Kale's gonna go off on this for like an hour I was in a relationship with someone I loved they didn't love me back when you feel like you've done everything to kind of fit into their world Yeah, what you think they want hoping that this person will love you and then you come to that realization I have to love myself more than I love him. Mm-hmm

I remember seeing this tick tock actually you did remember would yes. I saw this tick tock. I remember when it came out and um I've been there. I have been there and you just want them to choose you you want them to see Everything that you have to offer is just kind of like what I was saying earlier. Like I didn't want to be a pick me I hate when people say, oh, she's a pick me. She's a pick me You don't know that the the feelings and the conversations and the things that were shared between two people. You don't know um And even if that person is doing that with somebody else like you feel like it's you are the only one when it's with you

um But to hurt to adrian's point is like You do have to learn to love yourself more than you love that person And that's the only way that you're going to be able to actually get out of that situation I think that um When you find yourself in situations like that and the love is so uneven um It's it's toxic because you will never

Love that person and you will never love that person enough into loving you You can't it doesn't matter how much you love someone if they do not love you they do not love you back period It's a hard. Um, I think unless you've been there You Will not understand. Um, I can relate to that in some ways I know that Will can probably relate to that in a lot of ways. Um The last couple of years of our marriage. I think

That the love was there on his part and I was just like not reciprocating And so sometimes when I see stuff like that and then know that I've then been on the receiving end of that as well um It makes me feel so bad. I agree. I don't think it's a good feeling. It's never a good feeling when you Because my ex was like that too. He just loved the shit out of me and I it just wasn't mutual I just didn't feel the same way and I felt bad about it Yeah, it's not a good feeling because They deserve to be loved the way that they are loving but sometimes it's just not a match

well, sometimes You know, I don't know if you've ever felt like this but sometimes trying to love someone When you have to try to love them it becomes such an exhausting job. Mm-hmm And I think that does that point you realize, okay I should not be in this because what I'm doing is exhausting me more than it is bringing me happiness Yeah, and that's when you have to end it agreed All right bodyguards lovers. I just got a new phone. I got the iphone 14

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And then I felt that was necessary that I needed to pull you and text you and be like Does everyone else like ugly pumpkins or is it just me? Um, it's just you and you were like Lindsay. It's just you but like your pumpkins have general warts and chlamydia Okay. Well, first of all, that's rude. Um, I think that they're chic and I also they're chic Yeah, like I think it's like a good like they provide texture Um, it's just like a more when I just see like a plain pumpkin with no Um issues going on. I'm just like, I don't really like him like I don't And then I'm like, okay

I'm kind of talking about these pumpkins like men and people and pets and like all these things and I think there's a psychological aspect behind it Um, that is very relevant that yeah, you're mentally unstable. No, it does not make me mentally unstable It means that I pick things that are broken because I think that I can fix them home them I don't know what makes me think that Well, I got a text from creeds teacher and she sent me a picture of all these pumpkins and she said Which one do you want for creed and one of them has like warts and stuff on it? And then there's some white ones. There's some they're like all pretty cool. They're all pretty chic as you'll say

um, and I would just prefer a white one just like just like plain like No bumps. No, I'm gonna send them to you See, no like I don't like that like I literally told Jackson when we were at the pumpkin patch I was like find me the ugliest pumpkin that you can find are you sending me this photo? Should be going through any minute kill

Yeah, those are not okay. Do you want me to tell you which we're gonna post this photo? But do you want me to tell you which one that I would pick on this? Yeah, I would pick probably the one in the far back that has like these bumps on it Yep, it looks like fucking the wicked witch of the west with her nose. Yeah, I know but like why Why am I like that? I know it's just pumpkins, but like I am like that in every aspect of life it's like I I want someone who's

a little bit damaged probably because I'm damaged and I like the idea of like fixing things And like homing things, you know, like I'm not the type that could go to a animal shelter because I would want all of them Yeah, yeah, I never want to step foot in another animal shelter ever again because I don't want to come home with any more animals So yes, I understand that but not with pumpkins I just think they're so cute and they're just like perfectly imperfect. So just needed to let you know when I need to know Um, I actually need to prove kale wrong that other people also like ugly pumpkins. So please weigh in

Um, we we're gonna talk about the watcher But we're actually gonna cover this for the bonus true crime for november because I think there's just like a lot to unpack It's a true story. Um Lots being said about The seven part series versus Like the real life things of what happened the people who are involved that said that they're not gonna watch it Drive to the house. Wait, what I'm gonna drive to the house. Why are you always driving to these houses? Like you're bringing spirits home. That's fine. Don't keep us on our toes

So anyway, we're gonna cover that in november and now we're gonna do foul play. Okay Let's do fucking foul play. Um, do you want me to read the first one? Okay Boy, do I ever have a foul play for y'all? Please keep this anonymous I'm literally writing this from my bathroom and sheer embarrassment. I've been with my boyfriend for seven years now Recently I gave in and we started trying anal sex already. Now we're just going great It's been going great until tonight. I will never live down. What just happened We had just finished he finished in my house and we were laying in bed I was on my stomach when he said something funny and I laughed the last caused me to fart horribly loud

Which if that wasn't bad enough the fart sprayed come and a bit of blood All over our bed sheets wall and bedroom door and now he keeps telling me he's never gonna let me live it down from my comfort First of all, sir I mean at least it wasn't poop. Like I'm I'm actually like I'm proud of her that it wasn't poop No, when you fart poop particles come out You know, you're supposed to flush with the toilet seat this toilet laid down because you're um And keep your toothbrush like eight feet away because you're right. It does. Yeah all the poop particle. Yeah, like it flies everywhere But to be fair like I

Would be mortified about the fart in general, but like because it was a comfort. It would be fine Um, I'm glad it wasn't no none of the farts Are fine. She just had anal the fart is fine. Is anal like a normal thing that people do? I think when people are looking to spice it up. I just think that's like the natural like Next level that people think of now. I could think of a million more things to spice up in a bedroom Then someone put in their dick in my ass Like that's just not That's a no fly zone for me. I just don't think it's appealing. Um, and I'm gonna do it

You, huh? I'm gonna do it. You're gonna do it. Do you do it? I haven't Recently the last time I did was five years ago, but I will do it again. That's how you know that you shouldn't be doing it because you can specifically remember how long ago that it was because you were traumatized by it That is correct. That is correct. I also need to know From everybody listening if this is actually enjoyable for you because I have Heard from I'm not gonna say names of people I have heard from some people that like never happening like don't go near that area like just no like off limits I have heard from some that they can orgasm that way

And I've heard I've heard that but I don't know like how? No, I know I know men can huh men can yeah, because they're prostate, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, christin No, I'm not getting involved in this christen's like do not She christen does not want to participate in this conversation Christen, do you guys do anal? She has she does anal? She likes it And she's laughing because she knows it's goddamn too. Oh my god. I do

It's all about the prep work. Okay, but like yeah, do an enema Can you go through the prep like what? What well like oh my god I specifically like it when it's been like the area has been like warmed up We're in the shower so we know that it's clean and like you know And then it's just more comfortable in there and I you know, I do like it But do you orgasm that way? Yes. No, no No one's fuck. No

I told you some people are anal Doers, okay. Well christen while you're on here If you had a comfort would you be mortified? No, no, she wouldn't already know. No. No, she wouldn't Like the fact first of all I find it and I'd be like this is your fault right first of all if I Farted period I would just immediately leave not say a word and also not answer my phone and my phone's going on focus like no one time With my ex-girlfriend. I'm not going to tell you which one but I had gotten up from the bed

And it sounded like a fart, but it was the biggest queef I've ever done in my entire life But like I couldn't acknowledge it. I know she heard it But like it was a queef it was not a fart and I was mortified for life because I couldn't explain I just queefed. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I would immediately be like, hey, like if that happened to me I would be like hey, I wanted to die. Um, I really apologize, but that was a queef because you were filling me with air not dick Well, she couldn't fill me with dick. So were you guys using a dildo? No, I don't even think we had sex that day. Then how did you queef?

I just had air up there. I don't know How? I don't know, but I will never forget that day. Like I will never forget that day ever in my life Oh my god, because I stood up and a queef just came out and I was just like no. Oh, no Yeah, for sure. Oh, no, like that Oh, no If that happened to me, I would literally

I would leave like I'm telling you exactly what I would do even if it was my own house. I would drive away Yeah, that's mortifying. Yeah Yeah, okay next foul play. You want me to read it or are you reading it? Okay. Yeah Hey guys, love y'all so much. I was just listening to kale talk about how she doesn't like to make out with Just anybody and it made me think of a story for foul play One time I was making out with this guy. I had gone on a few dates with him but it was getting hot and heavy and he was kind of Sniffling and then all of a sudden I tasted slash felt a large booger in my mouth

And then I just swallowed his nasty ass booger and didn't say anything I just kept going because I didn't know what to do. I can taste feel the booger in my mouth when I think of this memory and it's terrible Oh my god Kill I can confidently say in my 33 years I haven't kissed a lot of people because I also I'm not making out with randos And I really only like kissing if I'm in love like I'm don't really care to be doing that But I can tell you right now if the person that I'm in love with made me swallow their booger

We're not in love anymore. No kale Listen, was this you did you write this in? No, but my ex did put his boogers in my mouth Wait back up back the fuck up Huh? Was this a fetish? No, this was in high school. Um, and he has since passed away, but he We were on the computer talking about the dead hanging out and he like went to kiss me and he Like I don't know if we were making out or he just like slipped them in but he had like that It was like a joke for him and I was so disgusted. I ended up leaving

He put boogers in my mouth and I was so like I understand this about this foul play RIP but like fuck you for doing that to me Um, yeah, so I hate boogers boogers are disgusting. I think boogers are worse than a fart I think oh boogers are definitely worse than a fart and plus like I hate to see kids with just like nasty noses and just like boogers hanging out and like I don't want to see an adult with a booger and like Also, I'm so weird about boogers that when I wash my face in the shower Like I blow my nose like I clean my nose out when I get out of the shower in the shower

Huh? You do snot rockets in the shower? Snot rockets. No, but I can clean your nose in the shower I just like blow it, but it's not just like flying around like I just blow it. I feel like that's what normal people do when they wash their face in the shower And like just get rid of boogers if you have any. I thought she was gonna say he burped in her mouth Okay, also Ew

Like if someone did that to me as well, like I'm not trying to taste what you had last night like Oh my god, I just can't I literally can't also Ass before we go just I have to change the subject rest in peace to Leslie Jordan I'm so so so devastated by his death Um, but I hope that he finds I hope that he's resting in peace So funny. He was such a funny person. I was actually I went out to dinner last night and then came home and was lying in bed and rolled over and looked at my phone and My dad had sent me a text and he was like, I was literally just talking to him yesterday. Oh

So, yeah, very very sad Um on that note, I think since I just had a cluster this morning and have not even made it to the gym I'm gonna go and do that and go to target. We know that that's gonna be a disaster And just do some random Shit, so if you guys have not followed us on instagram, you can follow us at coffee combos podcast If you have not subscribed to our show, you can do that from Any podcast app and always at podcast one first We hope that you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See ya