Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Would We Survive The Apocalypse?

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

EP243: Kail and Lindsie want to be the type of mom that wake up before their kids, get done up and have their life together... but we can't have everything we want so all aboard the Hot Mess Express! Lindsie wants to know if any of Kail's kids prefer their other parent, should kids dictate the parent's schedule, and Kail is certain her kids will complain about her when they're adults.Kail watched The Purge and is now scarred for life. Should anything like that ever happen, Lindsie and Kail already know they're dead day 1. Kail also needs a new bath routine for Creed, Lindsie has WAY too many vaccums for one house, and is flirting cheating?? Let's talk about it!   Thank you to our sponsors! Best Fiends: Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play Better Help: Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first month Caraway: Visit Carawayhome.com/COFFEECONVOS or use code COFFEECONVOS at checkout for 10% off your next purchase Vegamour: Go to Vegamour.com/coffeeconvos and use code coffeeconvos to save 20% on your first order Visa: Anyone can change the game Zocdoc: Go to Zocdoc.com/CONVOS and download the Zocdoc app for FREE

I hate gift giving and receiving receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you? This is coffee convos with kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels kale That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you a spirited discussion about motherhood friendship family and life in the Public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's kale and Lindsay We're feeling the energy this morning y'all Good morning Kailin Ray Lowry like first of all, I think this is the first time that I have ever logged on to record and You looked that prepared

It's not very common I'm this prepared I Had some time this morning to get ready and so I was like let me put hair and makeup together and just see how I feel I want to be high maintenance so bad Like, you know, let me not say high maintenance because that's rude. That's like very judgmental, but I Want to be one of those moms that comes put together all at all times Like my mom was that way like even as a functioning alcoholic and like who the fuck knows what my mom does My mom would never go out in public if she didn't have makeup in here

Okay, I have to tell you about this so growing up my parents were always like very much You do not leave this house without your face on people. Okay now I don't think they give to fly and flips what we look like and evidently I didn't get the memo and carry that on into my adult life Because I walk around Looking like a troll. So if anybody ever sees me in my area like looking bad Just pretend like I look good and keep on about your business and mind your business I

Love to be put together, but also at the same time. I love to have a good day where I don't have to do anything Yeah, well, so last night at football practice one of the team not teen moms team moms I saw her walking and she always looks like she is put together. She runs the fucking show Goes to yoga, but still looks like she's you know, she didn't sweat at all And I'm just like I wish I was like that or like I see these girls Actually, I have a friend like this and she's like bleach blonde hair huge fake boobs like full like she does her Disport she does everything and she looks so good all the time and she has three fucking kids

And I'm like, I just want to know like is it because you don't have mental health issues What is it that you like how do you do it? Okay? So I think most people would assume that I would be so put together all the time because Kristen and I have had this discussion about me being an actual closet type B, but I Like type A people and I have like type A people in my life, but I just don't execute that personality that well I don't know Where they come up with a time in the day to like get that prepared for all of the occasions with that many kids

But I can tell you I often times think of this when I am on Instagram and following some of my blogger girlfriends I'm like, okay, their face is literally on every single day Mm-hmm, and if I did that that would cut so much into my day Then I'm like, I don't even know if I would get anything done because I'm dicking around in the bathroom with a hairdryer and makeup brushes But I wonder if these are the same moms that get up before their kids do, okay? This could be a big possibility and I will tell you I have tried this before and We're not those moms, but we I don't think we're them

I think we're hot as express Like we like to get up when our kids get up, right? I get up when my kids get up I know it's call me whatever you want, but at the end of the day my kids are Literally nine times out of ten. They are not late. Like I'm gonna throw hobby under the bus here. He's an early morning riser He's really good under no sleep or whatever, but I was in the pickup line before him today Wait, you saw him the drop-off line. Sorry. Who were you dropping off that you saw him? Lux? Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense and he was way behind me like way way way behind me. So I'm I'm waking up with my kids. I'm getting wrecked like as soon as they're dressed and ready to go

I will literally put on sweats and then just leave out the door also same I'm like my morning routine on school days. I always wash my face Brush my teeth brush my hair put my hair in a hat and put on gym clothes because nine times out of ten I'm going to the gym once I drop Jackson off, right? Like I have seen moms in the carpool line or car rider line Someone actually sat on Instagram the other day when I was doing a video I said car rider line because now I'm self-conscious about it. Um, I See moms in that line that looks so put together and I'm like, wow I really love that for you and you've like already got your Starbucks probably or your Duncan and

you look all the part and Here I am. I showed up and I look like I have a rat's nest on top of my head. So that's my life Well, welcome to the shit show. Welcome. Um, I have a question for you And I had originally started talking about this in the kitty gang group chat on telegram Okay, and I said I'm gonna ask an expert and the reason I called you an expert is because you've been doing this for quite some time Um, I would love to know if you ever have had an experience with any of your kids wanting to either Be with you extra time and not going with the other parent or when they're with you wanting to be with the other parent and

Not being with you. I've had both. Yes Isaac and Lux don't ever want to go to their dads Isaac's getting better with it now Mainly because his grandma moved here and these family came over the summer. So anytime he would have like extra family over there He would want to go but overall prefers to stay with me same for Lux Lincoln in the pack. He's definitely been better with it lately But you know last year I would say in the year before he always wanted to be with hobby. Isn't that so hard though it's harder for me with hobby because

Hobby is very much get up and go get up and do things always doing something very much takes Lincoln and to go do like Really grand things all the time and so that makes it really difficult for me and obviously that's no fault It's at no fault of anyone. It's just is very unrealistic over here And so it's always I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored when you have three brothers here bored in the house And I'm in the house Because you know, he does the meet and greets and this and that and they go on weekend trips And like I would love to do that stuff, but it's just not it's not realistic with four kids right now I think it does change the entire game when you have other children and then you're also co-parenting with other dads too

Hobby has the flexibility and I say the same thing about will when Jackson's over there It's all about Jackson, but when Jackson's over here, it's also all about Jackson because he's only child So I think that dynamic in itself probably Changes the scenario a little bit. I just experienced last week Going into this like Monday or whatever I had had to ask will to watch Jackson on Saturday for a charity event that I went to and I lost a little bit of time and I hate losing any time because I already feel like when you're co-parenting You're having to lose time that you don't want to lose anyway, but it's just like the name of the game, right?

so Jackson had this grand idea that because I lost time with him on Saturday that He was just gonna stay with me on Monday when it was really will's day and And Jack wait you guys not if you guys do something like that. Do you not like make up the time? so normally we will do a time makeup in the past we have but Since I don't know whose phones going off in my house. That's strange. I'm alarmed. Okay, it's not mine No, like there's some phone going off in my house and no one's been here So either I have an intruder who's about to kill me or I don't know what's going on Um, okay, so we normally do make up time because

That's just what we've done in the past like you switch here. I'll give you back here But since we've been fighting so much. I think it was more of like a I'm not giving you time back type thing Don't you love that? And it's just annoying. I'm like, why are we even putting our personal feelings in this situation about time back? So then on the way to school Jackson does the talk to text your kids do that. Yeah, sometimes they do it I actually do it too. Okay. Well have something to say about that in a second but Jackson's doing this talk to text and I look in the back seat and he keeps repeating the same phrase over and over and over again

I am at mom's. I am at mom's I look at Jackson's phone when he gets out of the car because I have to take the go-between backpack to wills and Jackson has just blasted off multiple text messages to will to let him know that he was staying with me. Like I am at mom's These were like separate text messages. Oh, yeah, just all in a row the same exact thing Because did he not like what will was saying or what was the purpose? So he had tried to call will the night before and will didn't answer And then he tried to call him that same morning before we left the house and will didn't answer So I think in Jackson's mind. It was I will just keep texting the same thing and he'll get the memo

I'm at mom's I pictured it like him in your back seat and will texting him something and him saying like I'm at mom's like basically don't don't talk to me or don't text me about this I'm at mom's like that kind of thing. That's what I pictured in my head I'm just like, okay. I think he gets a point after like the 10th time I heard him say I'm at mom's It literally was going on from the time that we pulled out of my neighborhood until the time we went Into the church into the school parking lot. So I'm like Wow poor will Have another thing to say about hobby and always taking

Lincoln and his little brother to do things all the time Yeah, I almost feel like it's kind of like a dad thing because I also feel like will is up go go go Like he might be up at five o'clock in the morning And then he's dicking around in his basement with something and then he's taking a shower And then he might be doing something in his yard and then they might be going stars and strikes Like it's just like real weird shit and I'm kind of like in the morning I need a good 40 minutes for no one to talk to me same like

My Lincoln typically Lincoln and creed Have a bond I've never seen before and typically he calls for Lincoln in the morning to come get him So Lincoln will will bring creed down to my bed Like this is like when we don't have school and stuff and everyone will just pile in my bed in the morning like in the weekends and um I need like a good 30 45 minutes of that before I get up and moving Oh Absolutely. I feel like is that just mom's or is again that just our personalities?

That's a good question. That's a really good question. There's also suburban dad That man is up at five o'clock in the morning. Like you might get a five a.m. Text He knows he's not going to get a five a.m. Text, but like I might get one And he's on the go with those kids just like on the go and I'm like, okay. Well, I'm having a slow Saturday morning I actually don't want anyone to speak to me for the first 40 minutes. That would be ideal I will fix breakfast also no one speak during that time And if you're going to watch cartoons with annoying voices, please do that in the upstairs loft so that I also don't have to listen to that

Let's see I just want to know like is it Depression is it mental illness? Like what is it that I cannot be in morning person? Because before I had Isaac when I was out ripping and running the streets I would be out until four and then be to work at six or seven a.m. So like why am I not like that now? Like I Wait what you never went to bed? I would sleep for like two hours when I get up and go to work at my McDonald's

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Hey guys, this is kale lowery and this is v reveria. We're the host of baby mama's no drama Every tuesday we talk about parenting co-parenting lifestyle and sex Hop culture current events and pretty much all the things you want in one podcast So download and subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Listen to us every tuesday and join us with all the tea As I was talking about the co-parenting thing I remember you saying a long time ago that your therapist had said Don't let the kids dictate the schedule or whatever. Yes. And so I'm conflicted on that because Will and I only live

like Not probably not even five miles from each other like it's probably five minutes doorstep to doorstep and You guys have the ability to be very flexible Yeah, and if I don't like have anything going on that You know needs my immediate attention that like I need to be out of the house Something like that. I don't mind if Jackson's like, hey, I'm really feeling the need to be with dad or You know last situation that happened. I'm at moms. I'm at moms. I'm at moms I don't think that that's that big of an issue. I think sometimes that

parents get so caught up in the time belonging to them and Not taking into consideration that the kids need might be different than that if that makes sense No, a hundred percent. Um, it does make sense to me. I think I don't I understand where the therapist was coming from You know not putting adult decisions on the kids but the therapist also did say to Consider how they feel when making my own decision Um, I do think the older they get their needs do change and they should have more of a say like I should Give them more flexibility

But I'll never forget, you know when when Lincoln asked Javi like who and I've said it before on here Who you know, when do I get to pick with who I live with and for one time his fucking life? He he really stuck up for me and he said you'll be 50 50 with me and your mom until you move out kind of thing And that to me it meant so much to me. So Um and Lincoln, I think now he's in a place where he's good with both of us But there was a time where like obviously Javi was the preferred parent. Um, but I think I would be more flex I mean, even if he if it was still that way, I think I would be more flexible in giving him a little more freedom to Help make those choices. Well, Kristen is obviously as I've discussed very involved

In my co-parenting situation so much so that on the southern T. She kind of referenced herself as another ex-wife Um, she had told me about Leah and Corey from teen mom and their co-parenting method and basically just like listening to their kids They want to be with him. They're with him. They want to be with her there with her And I think you've got to find a happy medium, right? It's like you can't have so much chaos That it's always like a switch around back and forth that you Literally have no schedule, but at the same time I think Listening to your kids and being like, okay, your need looks a little bit different this week. That's okay, right? Yes, I agree with that. I do agree with that. So, um

When I was in I say when I was in church, I watched church online this week and You know how we were talking about like society and Today how it looks so different and yeah, well we see every day We want that instant Society tells us like satisfaction. Yeah, like you See it. You want it. You get it now

And I have had this experience with Jackson for quite some time now and It's really hard as a parent when you can give your kids things and for me It's easier because I'm not having to split finances amongst multiple children. It's just him and We share him. So it's just him and it's just him 50 percent of the time Jackson sees something and he has this Amazon mentality of like, oh, I see it. So I can get it That's literally Lincoln and Lux and I don't necessarily think that it's fair to say spoiled I don't think that is the word that should be used. I think it is mom didn't set boundaries

And now it's going to be really hard for me to reel that back in like if you don't start it It's not hard, right because it's they never knew it kids with their Parents who give their kids tablets versus don't if you don't start it They don't really know what they're missing if you start it, you know, that's the center of their that's the focus well, and I was thinking about this specifically after watching church and how you know, that's not the way that we should live um

And it's easy to say that and then society tells you otherwise, right? um, you want to keep up with the jones is and We all Do that to some extent like we hear somebody's doing something So it makes us feel like we're either not doing enough or we also want to do it I started planning this disney trip and I know that you hate disney world. So don't even start with me I wasn't gonna judge you But we have fall break and so

We're going to Orlando on Friday and we'll be there all the way until The following sunday so like two weekends in a week and planning that out and how much things cost and it's like sometimes I get so stressed out planning these trips that I'm like, what am I actually doing like I probably would have just as much fun with him going to A cabin or doing like the lake thing that you guys did

Then planning out these lavish trips and to you a lavish trip is like going to another country You're taking, you know the kids to do something Tropical or whatever. I know it's just Orlando, but everything is so expensive And I think that when you do trips like this and your kids are used to trips like that And it's always like a fun filled activity that you have planned There's an expectation there and it's caused me to be so alarmed lately because I'm like, you know what? The opportunities that I have had to provide what I can provide My child might not have those same opportunities

And so am I ultimately setting him up for failure to have these expectations if he won't be able to fill those in his adult life? I have thought about this also I Have also thought about this and it's crazy because I thought it was kind of like a harebrained situation like a brief Moment in time I thought about this, but I have thought about this and I thought I was the only one No, so what well, it's like the same thing with like what hobby takes Lincoln to do is so unrealistic for a normal person Um or like even my trips. I think about like is luxe Lincoln Isaac creed Are any of them going to be able to fulfill this in their adult life?

Like we don't even know what their jobs are going to look like we don't know what their income will be We don't know how society will be. We don't know how any of it will be So will they even be able to do half the shit that they're doing now? Well, and you know, it's also hard because Then co-parenting comes into play and will has such a normal job That Jackson sees him sitting at a computer taking conference calls doing whatever and he's like, oh, that's working I had to explain to Jackson that just because My job looks different doesn't mean that I'm not working

I'm not working and so I also feel like I'm just scared that he is going to have a false sense of like what actual reality is I wholeheartedly agree with that and I feel like I know this sounds weird But like the instagram thing with me creating my kids instagrams and stuff is like If there's a chance that they can turn their instagrams into a business in addition to whatever they choose to do with their lives That's why I get it like I want to be able to give it to them have the memories, but also be able to use it as a business

if it's still around Um, because we don't know what it will be like then and it's just I don't know. It's so weird it's so hard and I find myself really struggling because will live such a normal life his jobs normal his um

Relationships are you know normal. Nothing's what you would consider like in the spotlight. He's just you know living a normal suburban life and my life is very much not like that and the people that I am closest to lives are very much like my life and Jackson has this desire. He's like mom. I really want to create a youtube and I want to be instagram famous and I

want to be on Chris Lee knows best and like I want to do all of this stuff and as much as I love the fact that he sees how Normal will's life is it's a struggle that will and I have with each other of like will doesn't respect What I do or really I don't know that he He considers what I'm doing a job and then now because he has a choice. He doesn't want Jackson to necessarily participate and so like the whole thing has just become like so hard and so contrived and I'm trying to

Navigate that situation the best way possible and I don't know what to do and I don't know what the right answer is I don't know if there is a right answer. I don't know if there is a way to Navigate it. I mean, I guess it's just like one of those situations where you have to use your best judgment Like you have to do What you think is best even if that may not be Like it may not turn out that way But using your best judgment to make the best decision possible I actually had this conversation with my dad not too long ago that

It's easy to be angry at your parents for decisions that they make While they're parenting you and you're like that person was such an idiot like why did they choose To do that and subject me to that right, but our kids are gonna look back and say the exact same thing Hold on you guys Hello Fancy I'm record. I'm recording for coffee convos, but I tried to call you yesterday and you were at the casino So I'll call you back

Love you. Bye-bye What did you how big of a liar she is? Did you call her fancy? Yeah, I call her fancy I love her. She said well, I haven't heard from you in a week like Check your FaceTime because I tried to call you yesterday, but you were at the casino like Bow out ma'am. Um, any was at the casino so Yeah, like our kids are gonna say the same thing about us and how

We messed them up because we did this like parenting thing that just like really wasn't the right way but what I have learned through therapy is that You have to accept that your parents Were making the best decision at the time that and the best decision that they had the ability to make at the time and Sometimes your ability to parent looks very different than your parents ability to parent when they were parenting 100% actually got some heat on twitter the other day Oh, um, tell me hadn't been on there in a while. Yeah, I really don't get on I forget about it because I deleted it for so long um, but basically one of my old trolls

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Um, but that's not to say they'll never be traumatized by anything. I've ever done. Oh my gosh. You're like every single day Every single day I'm like, oh I could have definitely done that a little bit different. My mom was always the mom that was up before me getting ready before me Even with all of her issues and her addictions and her alcoholism all of that My mom was always up. She might have been fucked up getting ready, but she was always up before me did her hair and makeup Wait, what was Susie getting ready for my mom always kept a job no matter what isn't that wild Because she had to feed whatever addiction she had. There was no way in hell

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Um, so illinois illinois. Is it illinois or illinois illinois illinois? I never I'm dead. Oh my gosh. I never want to mispronounce something like indicted Um, because I'm so dumb I knew the word indicted and I don't know why I said indicted. Um, they were indicted They were indicted. Um, and that was what like three years ago Can we get something that like says indicted on it like a keychain? I don't know so good. Um So illinois passed like their version of the purge law Which basically is no cash bond or no cash bail for criminals

Um, and I'm actually terrified by this and I don't understand the purpose behind it And maybe christin can come on really quick. I know that she you guys can't hear her but Maybe she can explain it better than what I can explain Um, but I do not understand why anyone would think this is okay. It's basically um January 20 January 1st 2023 illinois will take its Place in history when they become the first state to bust out the purge in real life, so

It's insane that anyone would do this. I don't understand it. This to me just feels so wrong Um, it's called the safety act and it will charge and release Criminals without cash bail for 12 now non-detainable offenses and these offenses include second-degree murder Mm-hmm aggravated battery arson drug induced homicide kidnapping burglary Robbery intimidation aggravated DUI aggravated fleeing and eluding drug offenses and threatening of a public official Those are all the crimes that they will not be able to hold people on I want to know I'm going to look into this more because I would love to know

Why anyone would think that this is okay? Like there's what reasoning behind Did they have to make this decision? This is not okay. And also the photo that I'm looking at right now with purge here So she's got something to say So we're gonna look into the cash bail system as a whole in america Um, because christin was saying she thinks that's actually where it's stemming from So that makes sense to me, but I feel like we need to look more into it just the thought of it And the picture that was with it just terrified me and I was absolutely just like not okay Um, I'm not okay. And truly anyone who has ever watched the purge if you did not get anxiety from it

I want to know what you're taking or what you're doing I need to know what drugs you're on because I need them Because literally no like no I had so much anxiety like if this ever because The thing is that people I know people would come after me people that I don't even know would come after me It wouldn't be the people I know It would be the trolls that hate my guts and want to see me die like they're the ones that I'm like Oh my god, they'd come for me, you know Okay, is this just me or

also everyone else You know how like they'll have that they'll be like doomstay preppers. I'm sure someone who's listening either has been a doomstay prepper or Lives with one. I don't really believe in stuff like that Well, doomstay is like the world coming to an end, right? Or like an apocalypse I think like an apocalypse and I'm like, I don't really think that like that's gonna happen And I can promise you you having a prep backpack in your garage No, I don't think doomstay preppers just I don't think they just have a backpack lindsay. I think they have like

Rooms and basements and vaults and like all kinds of like Have you ever watched that show where it's like these people are Prepping and it's like they have 95 rolls of toilet paper and like just like weird shit And I'm like, okay to be honest if there's an apocalypse I'm just gonna say fuck it like all of this work that you're putting in to Think that you're going to Beat whatever's going on. I feel like it's just a waste of time like maybe I don't want to beat it if there's an apocalypse I'm not gonna sit here and try to survive just to live like naked and afraid for the rest of my life

Like I don't want to do that. So take me up Um, the aliens can come abduct me the you know, spread me in the ocean let sharks have a great meal a feast on me Um, I don't want to survive that because I don't want to live in a world where I have to be a scavenger Um, me either I'm literally like, okay if that happened I would be like just go ahead and take me out first because like I don't want to see any of this or Be witness to any of this. So Let's just do it. Like let's just do it. This is a nice ride. Um, I've enjoyed it

some days and not enjoyed it others and That fucking backpack that's in the garage that you think is going to save my life Will specifically No, will specifically like could you imagine us trying to survive like an apocalypse? No, like first of all I'm not even intelligent enough to survive like even if I did survive it by pure luck I would not be intelligent enough to survive the rest of my life You know what I mean? Um, okay, and then you get into the question of like, okay. Well if I survived it just a little while

um But then I'm still ultimately going to die anyway. Just like save me from having to put forth that effort Of surviving a little while and just go ahead and take me out. Take me out. Yeah Speaking of I have something completely unrelated I'm like speaking up Okay, this is so unrelated, but I feel like I need to get it off my chest Hmm. We love that. Okay, so baths. They're weird to me. Um, But I give my kids baths. I give I've given all my kids baths until they're old enough to shower

Um, and I know that we try to give back and not be wasteful and all of these things But baths are so gross to me that I feel like I Need a better solution to what I'm doing for my kids in the bath So when luck sometimes showers sometimes bays depends Um creed still gets a bath, but I will fill up the tub a little bit get them in get them wet Put some soap in there to soak his butt or whatever and then I drain it and then I run I wash him to wash his body Um rinse it off and then I fill the tub again because he probably wants to play in there for a little bit

And so I go the entire bathing process I am draining the water and refilling it because I'm so disgusted by sitting in your own filth I also do that But I need a better solution because I know that's super. I mean not filling the tub all the way up But I know that I'm at least filling the tub three times over every time. Okay, so as an adult Wait, I have to talk about this because someone told me something about my bath time routine

I don't know if you remember us talking about me taking baths on the podcast. Yes, but my old house That's all I used to do. Like if I was at home, I might remember probably be like he would text me from the bathtub Or you'd be like, I'm gonna go get in the bath. Yeah And someone told me that they feel like because I don't take a bath at this house Like I think I've taken one bath in the bathtub upstairs since I moved into this house over a year ago Um, and I was so dedicated to my bath time routine at my old house But someone said that that was probably like a coping thing that I was doing because Of where I was at in my marriage and it was like an escape for me. So I thought that that was interesting

But when I would take a bath I would run the water wash my body while the water was still running wash my face while the water was still running Plug the thing once all that water's like not there Run clean water and put bubble bath in there and that is so wasteful But I also bathed Jackson that same way the entire time I bathed him in a bath until he was like four years old Okay, so I'm not the only one that does this. No, but it is pretty wasteful and baths are pretty disgusting They are I mean, I don't care how clean you are if you sit there long enough the skin's gonna fall off whether you just Exfoliated or not. So I just was thinking

How wasteful it is is there an alternative to this besides showering because my two-year-old he's not ready for showers I mean, I've tried He'll get in with me like he'll walk in but he doesn't want to get under the water and stuff like that and That's fine. Like I don't that's okay if he's not ready But like is there an alternative to what I'm doing because I seriously baths are disgusting Like I the other option would be just don't fill the tub at all I guess for him let him play in the water, but then the water's running the whole time Like I don't think that's any more less wasteful

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To make your kids think that it's like a water activity. So if you Put him in a bathing suit maybe and put toys in there Maybe he would think it was more of like a water activity and get used to it that way instead of like losing the bath For the shower, right? Okay. Okay. Okay. I see like put toys put like those crayon things. Yeah on the wall. Okay. Okay Yeah, so maybe try that Um, I'll give that a try. I'll let you know how it works out speaking of that um, I was chit chatting with Kristen and I was like

Going through a whole laundry list of just like all the shit that I need to do and do you ever feel like You have so many things that you need to do You don't have the energy to do them. You know that you have to do them and You are literally the last person on that priority list. First of all creed spilled an entire thing of Cheetos on my bathroom floor and I know that I need to pick them up and clean them up And it's such a simple task, but I just look at it. That was about three hours ago. Love that for you. Yeah, like Kill I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that is just your personality

No, it's not my personality. It is because it's mental illness if that was me I my mom said that that any person could come to my house and it's basically like a I have a closet full of vacuum cleaners and like pretty much all of them are Dyson's like I've got a couple sharks in there or whatever But my house is basically like a cleaning supply store So that would never be the case in my house if there was cheez-its that were spilled on my tile in my bathroom floor Fuck that

The Dyson's coming out immediately First of all, I'd prefer a shark over a Dyson. I got rid of my Dyson. Okay. Well, we need to post which Vacuums because I have different vacuums. My mom's like, why do you have all of These vacuums at this house like it's it's concerning and I'm like, okay Well, there's one for like more rug vacuuming and then there's one for like you're sick You're fucking sick vacuuming and then no, I have this other one for like thicker carpet No, I could understand like a regular either Dyson or shark If you want to have one upstairs downstairs like I do I have an old one upstairs and a newer one downstairs and that's because

Natalie gifted me my new one as a housewarming gift when I moved two or three years ago Um, and so I put my old shark upstairs my regular my new one downstairs If you have like a light portable one Cool or like the steam mop situation, but if you just have like 12 vacuums just chilling because you have you have them for different things You're you might be psychotic No, I'm pretty sure that that was telling my mom's nice way of telling me that like I'm a psychopath But I don't really care that she thinks that so Julie chrisley if you are listening to this podcast Don't care also. I just don't know why a person would

Logically think that they just need to leave cheese it crumbs on their tile and think ants aren't gonna carry you away Well, it's Cheetos or Cheetos whatever. I'm gonna know I'm gonna vacuum him up I just I thought I had time to get ready with hair and makeup And come on here and podcast with you and then clean them up. Okay. Well That still doesn't answer my question If you feel like you're last on your priority list Wait say that again I said that still doesn't answer my question if you feel like you're last on your priority list

Yeah, I'm always last on my priority list. Everybody comes before me But why are we like that because really if you think about it if you are not filling your own cup How are you gonna fill anybody else's in the right way that you need to fill theirs? Well, and that's the whole point. Actually Kristen and I were talking about that this morning um Because I was giving her the whole fucking lecture about it because she's the same way She overworks herself so much and literally if she tells me she has a headache I'm like Kristen take the day off like

You need to take care of you because she has so much on her plate and I'm like Kristen get If you are overwhelmed with because she takes the mental load on For everything for me for you. She has another client. I won't name um She also she just works all the time her mom works her husband works everywhere I'm like if you don't I know nobody wants to pay for help and like I told her this morning. I was like I For so long lived for people telling me. Oh my god. You're superwoman. Oh my god. You're the best mom

How do you do it all on your own that I felt so guilty if I got help? I didn't want to admit that I you know got somebody to help me clean my house or I got you know I only have someone to clean my house once a week or every other week or you know Someone that will take my dog to doggy daycare or something. I didn't want to give someone else that credit But at the end of the day I was struggling so bad to get it done and I told Kristen the same thing I can So specifically remember a moment in my marriage that I've talked about this before that I went from Being a stay-at-home mom basically to

a working mom that was still staying at home doing all the stay-at-home mom things and all the wife duties and whatever and I just remember one weekend I woke up and I was like I am not doing this anymore Like I literally cannot do this anymore. I need help and I can't do this alone But I think that you're so right that I don't know if it's a pride thing or I think it's pride ego society You don't get to take credit of being a good single mom if you get if you delegate tasks to other people Um hustle culture is dead. I don't hustle culture needs to be done. I think that's part of it, too

I find myself and maybe it's therapy being okay with letting people know I can't do it all like I think once you reach the point of Allowing yourself to feel that way and to be honest about that and be like, you know what? I am not superwoman. I can't do it all I have to have help the better off you become but it took me a long time To get to this point. I still don't prioritize myself in the way that I need to prioritize myself But I am very self-aware that I need to do that. So I think that's step one I wonder if

Men Feel this same pressure as women feel they do. Oh, I think some do I don't think all do so I had this conversation a while back with Elijah and um, you know together we have a little over six acres and His uncle was already doing my landscaping. Um, and so I just felt comfortable with him Continuing because Elijah works full-time and he works on cars on the side and he does he tinkers with shit on the side and things like that And he was going to take over the lawn mowing, which is fine. That's fine, too That takes a financial burden off of my plate

But then he was doing he also has his own business. Um, I don't know if it's like with his dad or his dad just helps him I don't know um Doing like home repairs remodels stuff like that And so he was taking on a lot of those jobs plus fixing cars plus working full-time And so he wasn't getting to the yard and we kind of got into it a little bit because I was like just leave it to your uncle I'm like I and he was like that's not how I was raised. I'm the man of the house. I do this stuff. This is my job

I'm supposed to do and I'm like Elijah, but you're not doing it. It's and if you do do it It's not being done to the standards that I care about I worked I busted my fucking ass to have this house and to have this land and to have everything And I totally understand where he's coming from because he felt like as a man Or as just a human just somebody living in the house He felt like it was his responsibility and he felt the pressure and he I think felt less than um because I was like focus on what you're doing. It's okay. If someone else moves along It's okay. If I if your uncle continues doing it. It's it's okay, and he wasn't hearing it

Yeah, I think that it's probably a personality thing too if I had to guess, you know Like different types of personalities, but I do feel like we are all pressured by society. Um, Maybe just not the same ways if that makes sense Right All right, I'm gonna tell you guys about a game that the kitty gang and I are playing and actually Lindsay is too So Lindsay and I are playing with the kitty gang. We are playing Kristen's also playing with her husband with the kitty gang and us But she's not on my best fiends level yet. You're so nosy about people's levels Because I'm the best at something I have been playing best fiends for like three years

And it's a puzzle game. It's a free to download puzzle game with thousands of exciting levels They have new adventures and when I'm like waiting for my car Which will be tomorrow when I get new tires for blowing out my tire I'll actually be playing best fiends. So if you need me, you'll know where to find me There are dozens of unique fiends to collect and I think that they are just such cute little characters You can customize your team of fiends to defeat menacing slugs power up to your favorite fiends to new levels For even more powerful skills to watch them transform as they get stronger and with offline play You'll never be stranded without fun

even if you lose internet connection, which is absolutely great and They have brand new events and challenges pop up all year round So you've always got a chance to earn exclusive in-game items characters and rewards and I don't know If I'm at a higher level then kill or not, but I will follow up with you guys and let you know about that next week and You guys can just go to the app store or google play to download best fiends for free Plus earn even more with five dollars worth of in-game rewards when you reach level five. That's friends without the r best fiends Okay, so we have a listener topic that I saw on the fan group on facebook

And I was like, okay, kale and I are probably gonna think differently on this Um, and I didn't want to ask you before I talked about it on the podcast but this person says Being in love and still cheat conversation. I don't remember how my husband and I were talking about this however I told him flirting is cheating then he said no, it's not we had a big disagreement I think this is how men think is like I'm flirting He's like I'm flirting so it's not cheating but flirting leads to cheating I don't think that flirting always leads to cheating. I think some people have

very flirtatious personalities and I've been told that I'm one of those people when I dated um His name was jp and I dated him when me and chris were off and in the very beginning And he said, you know men think that you're Going for them they like Because you flirt and I said just because I'm nice to them doesn't mean I want to fuck them and he's like I know that But they don't know that. Um I think some people are just flirtatious like people would when me and becky were hanging around they would be like

Oh becky loves you. You love becky blah blah. I'm like literally. No, that's just who becky is like there are just flirtatious people Of course, there are people who flirt and then end up cheating like I don't know crystal for michael lopez But not everyone is that way So I'm not I'm not throwing any shade but definition of flirting is behave as though attracted to or trying to attract someone But for amusement rather than with serious intentions. See but But We are humans. We are

mammals We are naturally you just because you were in a relationship with someone Does not mean that you're never going to flirt again or that you shouldn't ever flirt again and you still have fucking eyes So you can still see that other people are attractive and as long as it's harmless flirting. I personally don't see anything wrong with it Um, but not everyone can control themselves. So I definitely think this is a case by case situation So I knew we were going to disagree on this Which is okay because that's what makes coffee combos podcast. Um, I think that flirting is harmful

I think especially if you are in a committed relationship serious relationship or marriage My question would be why do you feel the need to do that with someone outside of me? Like I understand natural instinct and Whatever, but also I think that puts you in a conversation of Restraint, I guess would be the right word like you need to have enough Self-awareness that you're not putting yourself in those situations because if you are

Harmlessly engaging in that way You don't know if the person that you're engaging with in that way is harmless like there's a lot of times that I have said in the past I can trust you, but I don't trust them or I don't trust her. Yeah um I think I used to be that way. I used to be that way now. I just Maybe it's I don't know like at the end of the day I think people will it's hard because I think some people will flirt whether you're there or you're not there

um Well, I say that too like if you You should know And be self-aware enough to know that if it's not something that you would do in front of me You shouldn't be doing it. So that's where I would draw the line I think if you're not and I think that I'm Like I'm fine with someone like flirting in front of my face if it's like completely It's like not serious, you know, like that's it is what it is

But if you're doing things behind my back and then hiding it from me that to me is cheating But that goes along the lines of not just flirting with someone that's like Like inappropriately texting Um texting anyone in general and hiding it from me going places and hiding it from me And I'm not saying like you can't just go out and do your own shit and then not tell me about it like that's different than like specifically trying to hide it um

If you're hiding anything that's a problem to me at the moment that You felt the need to hide it You were aware that what you were doing was wrong. Yes that I agree with 100 right? Yes, I would love to know what everybody else thinks about this because I I feel like this topic also has legs, right? It's like, okay. Well, it's flirting cheating but then also is texting someone of the opposite sex

cheating is Looking at someone lustfully That's not your partner cheating like there are so many questions actually. I think I'm going to put together a Um, like a this or that type thing to let people play along on instagram to just gauge What people think yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I agree. Um, okay. Are you ready for foul play? I'm ready for foul play. Do you want me to read it or yeah? Go ahead. Okay. What the fuck? I'm already read. Oh my god Don't read it. Okay I'm taking a deep breath because I don't know what's next. Okay

I'm gonna do the second one first Okay Um, just because I need a break from shit stories Ben Wabals. Hello Kale Lindsay and Kristen So I was at my sisters one night and we were hanging out at the quote barn and I needed to go to the bathroom So I walked up to the house My sister Megan texted me and said Justin her husband So my brother-in-law is playing with some gold marbles. He found in your bag. First of all, why is he going through her bag?

I texted back and said Oh my god, Megan. Those are my Ben Wabals And she says I know did I tell Did you tell them what they were and she said yes, he doesn't care So I come back down from the house and start fussing Justin and start fussing Justin Why did you play with those knowing what they she says what they was what they were? Um, he doesn't respond. So I say Justin. That's gross. He still looks at me crazy I said, I know these are butthole balls. Just no, they're not butthole balls

Justin say something dang. He opened his mouth and my Ben Wabals fall out onto the pool table It looked like Lion King when Scar spits out Zazu. Oh Fucking god, can someone please draw this for us? Can someone please? What what? Everyone is dying laughing and I'm just appalled then this man tries to turn it around on me saying why are you freaking out? What's wrong with your vagina? Should I be worried now? Of course, it's hilarious, but at the same time I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with my family? I also did find out later. He washed them off first, but still Love the podcast. Hope you see this message. Okay. Um, first so that was a prank

I'm assuming because I'm like first of all, why are you going? Who told him that there was Ben Wabals in her bag? Wait, what the fuck is Ben Wabals? Ben Wabals are like these weighted balls I have um metal ones and I also have uh rose quartz crystal ones where she do and you put them in your Hooha in your cat and you do kegels or like they're weighted so that you can um grip them and Essentially like make yourself tighter over time. It's like lifting weights for your vagina. Okay. Wait, so one time We were having crew lunch on chrisley knows best and somehow Ben Wabals came up and someone on the crew um Said that they had one in and like I used to like put them in

When I would take a shower or something and I would put them in and then when before I get out of the shower I just squat down and let them out. Wait, what? You squat down and it falls out. Well, I would just like release them What? Like during the duration of my shower, I would put them in I would put two little ones in um To like so during the shower I would basically hold them in so that it would be like a workout for my cat

And then at the end of my shower before I get out, I would squat down release them and then wash them So they were nice and clean um for your kids to find them and think that they were marbles. Okay Okay, kill Hi ladies first off Love you all on your podcast. I'm a weekly listener for all of your shows combined. Thank you This foul play is not me. It's one of my best friends who we will keep anonymous for her sake She's a nurse and on her way to work one morning

I guess her coffee got the best of her and she immediately had to shit She was still 15 minutes from her work and knew she was never going to make it So she did what she had to do and handle business right there in her car Nope She did shit herself instead of Instead she decided to hop in her backseat empty her lunchbox and shit right there on the side of a major Philly highway Kale is issued to christen right this

She wrote this for me. Actually, that's pretty smart that she did that right next to her daughter's car seat Thankfully, she had wipes on her on hand from her diaper bag She's zipped she zipped that baby up got back on the road and tossed the lunchbox once she got to work Hope you both get as much joy and laughter from my friendship story as much as me and my friends did in our group chat No shame in her game. She told all loving us us right after it happened. Keep killing it. First of all, first of all I love that for her. That's amazing. If I had I'm too big of a bitch to crawl in my backseat Um, but if I you know what I might keep an empty lunchbox on in my passenger seat from now on um

That's that she was she's a good critical thinker like she got an a for critical thinking um Speaking of shit, I need to play this and no one get pissed off the audio is bad. I just like have to play it Kanye said kim has diary a lot like way more than a normal person should have it. It's from modern damn diets She said please stop posting our private text messages on instagram I did a tick tock on that he said bitch. I know you texted this from the toilet I did a tick tock on this. I literally said in the video like Him exposing kim, which I think allegedly it wasn't even him. He said that his account got hacked, which I don't believe

Um, but whatever I did a tick tock on it And I said, you know, he's giving very kevin federal line vibes by like trying to call out Britney Spears Kanye's trying to call out kim and I said I've never felt more seen Um, so if I have IBS and kim has IBS basically I'm kim Kardashian He said kim has diarrhea a lot like way more than a normal person should have it No, I think more people I think so many people have diarrhea and they don't talk about it Who has diarrhea? I think I think lots of people have diarrhea and they don't talk I think a lot of people have IBS and they don't talk about it

Oh, Kristen just popped on and said that someone photoshopped the stuff about Kanye Like literally that's why you can't trust the internet and I hate everybody Well, I wish I would have said that someone photoshopped other things of me Fuck I didn't think of that honestly. I need to go and get my Organizing bags out so that I can start packing for Orlando because I have not even started So on that note kim Kardashian diarrhea shits kill lorries Pissing on the side of highways and blowing out tires because the bitch can't drive

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