Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 106: Blame It on the Rain

Episode Date: July 8, 2013

Want to stream Cognitive Dissonance to your Android or iPhone? Buy the app! Go to DissonancePod.com and click on the link on the right-hand side of the page. Each purchase helps support the show. Hello, this is episode 106 of Cognitive Resistance. Just in case you stopped. Yeah, this is Tom. This is Don in Mobile, Alabama. I've been here listening to you talking about Scalia.

Well, this is the same man who did dissent from the Lawrence v. Texas, which struck down Texas sodomy laws, and recently said it is certainly within the rights of the state to legislate against sodomy because that is a dangerous part. This man is fixated on the act of sodomy. Hey, you fuckers. Glory hole. Hey, I just wanted to let you know

what the stupidest thing I ever prayed about was when I was a kid the neighbor next to us had a very nice collection of fishing poles I prayed that that man would die so that I could have his fishing poles he eventually poles. He eventually died, which I thought my prayer was answered, but he didn't will his fishing poles to me. So I was kind of confused about that. My prayer was answered, the man died, but he didn't will his fishing poles to me. So it was a confusing time in my life. Hey, common people, this is Merrick from Massachusetts. And I wanted to share a fun Antonin Scalia fact with you. So in 2003, the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence v. Texas that laws banning consensual sex acts between adults were unconstitutional.

Of course, Scalia dissented. And he predicted that the majority's decision would mean that states could no longer ban bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, That's right. Scalia thinks that the state can legislate against masturbation and fornication. He's a super clown. Glory hole. Keep it up. Thanks very much. Bye. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart,

or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome out. We are recording live and then later editing it. Live.

We're also, we want to point this out too, we're also recording on the first. So we released on the first and we're recording on the first. Because this week in America, for all you people that are not American, is kind of a crazy week. And it's Canada Day today. It is. If you happen to be Canadian. It's O Canada Day. It's Canada Day today. It is. If you happen to be Canadian. It's O Canada Day. It's Canada Day, eh?

Eh. So you have to drink a little Bat Blue and like swing a beaver at a maple tree or something. You have to be really, really nice to people. You just have to be aggressively polite.

Which is no different than all the other Canada Days. And this is episode 106. I don't understand why we have to build a ray gun to aim at a planet I never even heard of. Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos. Go! So, Cecil, the first story we're going to talk about is from The Guardian.

And, wait, is it from The Guardian or is it from fucking CNN? Both of them. They're both on there. It's from CN Guardian. Guardian NN. When they merge, they should be Guardian NN. That'd be awesome. Man behind NSA leak says he did it to safeguard privacy.

Liberty. We wanted to talk. We want to spend some time talking about the PrRISM NSA Snowden scandal shenanigans debacle linking to a specific article. And we certainly will do it only to a couple of articles that we used. I mean, if you haven't been following this story, then you haven't been following any stories. Like it is not possible for you not to know at least a little bit something about this. But basically, Edward Snowden was working as a contractor for a security company with the NSA, and he leaked some information basically showing that the NSA has been taking a great steaming pile all over our Fourth Amendment rights, Cecil. Yeah, you know, it doesn't start with them.

The Patriot Act tore away a lot of our rights. And I think the Patriot Act sort of empowered this to happen. So when we bitch about this and we get upset about this, we've got to recognize that this sort of thing has been going on for a while. And we've been losing our rights slowly as time goes on. And I want to make some clarifications early in this because, you know, you and I both have come out as sort of anti-privacy in some ways. You know, we talked a little bit about being in the public sphere and what happens to you when you're in the public sphere. And if you're

on camera and we talked about drones flying overhead and things like that. And we really didn't care so much. We were like, yeah, that's okay. And I think that this is very different, though. And I want to make some distinctions between what's going on then and what's going on now. When we talk about privacy, when we're in the public sphere, I really do feel like I should expect no privacy outside. While I think, you know, we talked about how kind of creepy that can be and how weird it can make you feel, you know, you are in the public sphere and you can't expect that people are going

to not have a photo of you or a video of you or whatever, recordings of your voice, whatever it is. But when we start getting into the private sphere and we start getting into your homes, we start getting into your inboxes, we start getting into your mail, these are things that should be sacred in some way. This is where we need to put up the wall and say, look, we're not interested in the government coming into our inboxes, digging around. And I know that there's the things that they're saying is they're looking for metadata, right? They're looking for terms and words and things that would help them. But one of the things that Snowden says that I think is so poignant

is he's talking about what they can do after the fact. So let's say I run afoul of the law in some way, or even I'm falsely accused in some way of terrorism or something. They can go back and start looking at all my things that I've written. And they can start piecing things together. There's a reason those things are private. There's a reason certain things

can only be brought up in court. There's a reason those things are private. There's a reason certain things can only be brought up in court. There's a reason why there's a statute of limitation on things. There are reasons for this. I can't imagine how easy it would be to make a narrative of someone's life if you have all of the

contents laid bare. Look, you pieced together a cogent show from the nonsensical bullshit I spout once a week through the magic of narrative editing, right? I mean, and you do this, you do digital storytelling and editing and that sort of thing, you know, with your work frequently. If you have, I mean, the power to edit is one of the greatest powers in narrative creation available to somebody. And, you know, I get and I send and receive for my work.

If you were to tap into my work email, five, six hundred messages a day, you know, right around. Be pretty easy to create a narrative out of that. Start going through this show, the notes that we create for the show, the jokes that we tell for this show. Transcribe the jokes to remove the tone and inflection. Take them out of context and piece them together. And what do you have? How about some of the stuff that wound up on the cutting room floor?

Because they would have access to that. Because they have access to the raw files. This is on Skype? There's no reason to think that this wouldn't be completely accessible, you know, and, and the point is, and, you know, I was listening to common sense. I was listening to Dan Carlin. If you guys don't listen to Dan Carlin's common sense, you should give it a shot. It's an amazing show. It's a great show. Um, and one of the things that he said, and he said it a long time ago and it stuck with me. And he said it again, um, is it's, it's not so much about what they're doing with the information now.

Right. It's about what they might do with the information later. You know, it's it's all well and good that we don't live in a police state today in 2013. It's all well and good even if you happen to be one of the people who trusts your leaders and trusts the NSA and trust the people in charge, that's great. But as soon as you grant those powers to your government, you never get to take them back. You never, ever get those those powers back. And you might not trust the next guy. What if the next guy in charge just wants to take a little bit more rest, a little bit more control and privacy and freedom out of your hands.

And then the next guy takes another 10 percent and the next guy takes another 10 percent. Look at what happened, Tom, with the Occupy when they started. They look like they were starting to talk about those people as like enemies of the state. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like this is a this is a protest. This is you know, this is sort of what we're about over here.

And they're, you know, making rumblings about being, you know, I mean, could you imagine if the next guy says, no, those are people that those those guys are terrorists? You know, now what? Yeah. Now you get to now you get to make a narrative of all the shit that they've said back and forth. Yeah. You know, and and that was it's interesting because that was one of the one of the points that was brought up in one of the two articles that we're going to we're going to link to, you know, was was that during the Occupy protests, you know, what would happen if there was another massive anti-war movement, you know, like there was during the Vietnam War? Let's say, you know, some some crazy shit happens. The United States gets embroiled in a war. I know. How could it happen? Look, it's out of left field.

There's chances of that happening, Tom, are so infinitesimal. But, you know, if something like that were to occur and an anti-war movement were to accompany that action, who's to say that those people couldn't be very readily and easily labeled as, you know, un-American or, you know, on surveillance or aiding and abetting the enemy. And, you know, these aren't, this isn't pie in the sky shit. This is stuff that actually is

happening. You know, the FBI had informants working within the Occupy movement. That's well known. They didn't even try to hide that. You know, they had plants. They had people. The same thing is true of, you know, what they deem radical environmental groups. You know, so the government already works to infiltrate groups and organizations that they feel are, you know, subversive in some way or that pose some kind of risk. And now that they can go through my emails, they can go through, they can decide after the fact if you belong to one of these groups.

They can decide after the fact if you are sympathetic to an organization that maybe they don't want you to be sympathetic toward. And I hate using that they. You know, I hate that shit. I know, me too. I really do. And I don't think, I You know, I hate that shit. I know me, too. I really do. And I don't think I really don't think that the data that was gathered was gathered with ill intent or malicious intent. I do think that the information that was gathered was gathered with probably all

the best intentions to keep keep people safe. But safety doesn't trump liberty. No. And that's an important distinction. And that's and that's think, that's the heart of the argument. I think that, you know, people were making when the Patriot Act was passed and people are still making today when they're talking about this. I don't want to, I don't think that them keeping tabs on everyone's email or everyone's, you know, whatever, internet activities, et cetera, et cetera, is going to make me any safer. There was an article that we read previously. We were talking about, you know, sort of the dissenting opinion. Because Tom and I, I think both of us have this feeling like we will come on sort of the side of, you know, I think sort of the liberal minded people. But in this case, you know, this is more the libertarian stance, you know, like, don't let's let's make sure that this is not happening, you know, whatever.

But I think that a lot of people are coming down on this side. So what we wanted to do was look at a different side because Tom and I both agree on how this is going down. And we read an article about it. And really, the person was saying, well, here's how they is going down. And we read an article about it. And really the person was saying, well, here's how they use the information. And I thought, well, that's fine and that's all fine and good. But at one point the person says,

well, what they do is they create a Google account and then they put some details in an email and they don't send it anywhere. They just keep it in the email. And then they send a secure message to somebody to say, hey, here's the username and password to that thing. Go check it out, whatever. And then they go check it out and they're able to read the email, etc. But I keep thinking, you can send a username and password securely. Can't you just send

the rest of the message securely? Is it that hard to expect that you would be able to send the rest of the message securely? And what ever happened to meeting face-to-face? Like, does that not happen anymore? I don't know. Like, it just feels like, it feels like, why is there somebody on Google creating a Gmail account to, you know, to contact somebody else? It doesn't feel, it doesn't feel like that's a valid threat. Yeah, you know, and I guess my thinking is,

even if it is a valid threat, I'm willing to live with it. I'm, I'm willing to live with some sense of personal safety, uncertainty in order to not sacrifice my, my civil liberties. Um, you know, you look at something like the attack in Boston, it was a terrible attack. You know, you look at something like the attack in Boston. It was a terrible attack. You know, obviously a lot of people were injured. A couple of people were killed. Would it be better if that were prevented?

Yes. Would I give up my Fourth Amendment right to make that not happen? No, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. No. It's essential that we view our rights as rights, not privileges. I got to say, that Boston thing happened. It's not like the gathering of information somehow stopped that from happening. Right. And what You know, and what they'll point to is is they'll say, well, you know, you don't know all the stuff that that we stopped. You're right. I don't know.

I don't know. And you can say you stopped all the bombings. Right. You could just be like, I stopped all the bombings. But one, there would have been one hundred and fifty other bombings had we not done this data mining. And I'll say, I don't believe you. I just don't. I don't think that this data mining, this data collection from American citizens is say, I don't believe you. I just don't. I don't think that this data mining, this data collection from American citizens is legal. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think that it stops these attacks in their tracks. And I think to be perfectly honest, if it's harder for you to do your job, but I still have my rights, then it's harder for you to do your job. But I still get my rights. Buck the fuck up. Right. Do it better then.

That's not an argument for them to be like, well, it's harder for us to do our job. Well, just fucking hire more people. Do your job better. You'll get to fucking shit can all the people doing the network administrating. So now you get to save some money. This guy was making a three-figure salary, a bunch of others, six-figure salary.

A bunch of other people were making six-figure salaries. So shit can them and start paying for other types of information. You know, I understand and I recognize that the government is going to do some shady shit in order to find people that they that are going to trying to subvert them. I understand that they're going to try to do that. that. But I think it's the role of, you know, reporters and people like that when they find things like this out, that they come out and they show that this is, you know, that this is wrong and this is something that, you know, that we need to pay attention to and we need to stop. And lately, I want to say maybe like the last 10 years, reporters have become less and less the sort of defenders of democracy that they should be and have become more partisan and therefore have lost a lot of credibility.

And I think that's a dangerous trend that we're involved in right now. We need whistleblowers like, you know, the WikiLeaks thing and this because the reporters just, you know, what if Fox News comes forward with something? You know, there's how many people out there that just write off everything Fox News says they just because they just don't think it's worthwhile. I think the partisanship is hurting us more than anything else in that way. And I think that, you know, this is the new this is the new this is the new trend. Expect more whistleblowers in the future because I just don't think the reporters have have any teeth anymore when it's their guy in the office. Well, not only do I have any teeth, but, you know, this story was broken out of a foreign fucking newspaper. Yeah, this this story didn't break, you know, because of high quality investigative journalism done here in the States.

This is a foreign fucking paper that broke this story. That's you have to go out of the goddamn country to break a story about. And this, you know, the thing that makes me crazy is this should be the biggest story of our lifetime. You know, I'm 35. This should be the biggest story that's happened so far in my lifetime. The government is fucking spying on citizens. I mean, cut all the rest of the crap out about the hows and the details and the data.

The government is spying on citizens. That is what is happening. That is fucking illegal. Like, you have a right to your privacy. It's not a this is not a fictional construct. Like this is a constitutionally mandated right. It's the motherfucking Fourth Amendment. You know, everybody here in the States where it's it's so fucked up. you can't have eight billion rounds in a magazine and you get all these fucking redneck bullshit hillbillies screaming about their Second Amendment right. It's a right. It's a right. It's a right. I can have as many guns bristling in every fucking direction like a fucking ammunition loaded porcupine at all times.

But you find out that the fucking United States government is spying on citizens and we're fucking making excuses for it. We're making excuses for this shit. Searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized. It's very fucking clear. It's like the clearest amendment. Like the amendments are almost all pretty vague. This one is extravagantly clear because it is fundamental to liberty. It is essential to living in a free society that this be your right. And if the government can decide it's your right, but only sort of kind of because I can kind of take that away, then it's not a right.

It's a privilege. Yeah. And I don't have a set of privileges as a citizen. I have a set of fucking rights as a citizen. And if I don't, then I'm living somewhere. I like I took the wrong civics class. Right. Well, it's like it's like them saying, well, look, we would read your Miranda rights to

you, but, you know, you were kind of an asshole. Right. So, you know, you just you know,'ve got to be nicer to get your Miranda rights. That doesn't happen. They're rights. They're not Miranda privileges. Right. It's not a suggestion.

It's not a Miranda suggestion. I think you guys should probably advise him of his rights, but if you don't feel like it, really, it's all right. If you're busy and you just want to get this interrogation over with. Every one of those days we just. Just question. Forget the question. I feel like we've been let down by the government in this regard. I think that this is a slap in the face to us.

It's been happening for a while. It's not that this is new news. It just so happens that somebody is coming out and is getting a lot of press for it. But this sort of thing has been happening for a while and erosion of our rights has been happening for a while. And until we start really paying attention and start, I mean, the best way to do it is to make sure that this sort of thing comes up during those town hall meetings, that this is the thing we're asking them, that this is the thing that we keep pressuring them for,

that this is the thing we're demonstrating for, that this is the thing that every time that they have an opportunity, every reporter is asking them about this from now until the end of their terms. Absolutely right. That's how you make sure that this is an important thing. Because if you just let it fall away

with the next news cycle, what we're going to have is the status quo forever. And don't expect this to change. Yeah, man, I totally agree. You got to bulldog this shit like this. Like people need to be people need to lose jobs. People need to lose. People need to go to jail.

And they really do. Like, that's what needs to happen. We need to have big, high profile trials. People need to aggressively. And you know that would happen, Cecil, if we had high quality adversarial journalism, because they would be the ones bulldogging this shit. That's their job. They're the watchdog of democracy. Right. That's what they're. It's like it's like the the fourth estate. Right. Isn't that what they're supposed to be? I mean, that's the idea. That's the notion behind a free press. And you're right. It's become this partisan gamesmanship, you know, battling back and forth. And it's just, you know, the story isn't juicy enough. The story isn't interesting enough. The story isn't going to get enough hits on the fucking web page. We're not going to draw on enough advertising dollars. You know, what do we do? What's the advantage of the story?

I mean, it's kind of the problem with like a free press that is just trying to make money like everything else. Yeah. You know, it's fucking frustrating. But if we had real high quality adversarial journalism, this would be I mean, this this would be absolutely rabidly attacked. And I hope that maybe it is. I hope that every time there's a fucking press conference, every time Obama stands in front of a microphone, somebody brings this up. Yeah, it's not going to happen. And the question and the answer can't always be, look, we're not going to be reading your emails.

We're looking for the bad guys. Right. Because it doesn't satisfy me, and it shouldn't satisfy you. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. So this story comes from newjournal.com. Pastor charged with financially exploiting woman in Austin. Pastor is charged with bilking more than $40,000 from an elderly woman with dementia. This is a good guy, Cecil. If you're going to give power of attorney to anybody,

you definitely want to give it to your pastor who can spend, and this is the part of the story that baffles me, $3,000 for a bowling trip that he claimed was a reward for his care. When somebody is your ward, you don't take a reward.

I know they're similar. There's a root word in there. What costs $3,000 on a bowling trip I mean how much Bud Light can you drink You must be Like can't you just buy

A bowling alley for $3,000 I know If you walk into a bowling alley with $3,000 You probably just get to Rent it indefinitely They're like you know what We're just going to keep you in here until your money runs out, which will be sometime around 2016. You walk in, you're like, I will have 1,000 pitchers of your finest light beer, please.

What? I mean, $3,000 for a bowling trip. Where was he trying to bowl one alley in each state? Is there a great bowling alleys of the United States tour? I don't know. That's a lot of aware of. It's a lot of blooming onions. That's all I'm saying.

You know, what more depressing state is there than sort of the Alzheimer's dementia state that people are in, you know, like when they get to be old and they start to forget and they forget where they're at and they forget what they're doing. to be old and they start to forget and they forget where they're at and they forget what they're doing. And to take advantage of somebody like that, you are the lowest form of human being. I mean, you really are.

This is a no-brainer on how scummy you are. It's like you look at somebody like, I could victimize them. They look really victim-ize-y to me. Gosh, AK. I mean, that's not chump change it's not like it's not like he's you know digging in her pocket for quarters what's the total 40 g's man like it's

a lot of money here it almost has nothing on this next story which is from au.news.yahoo new twist for lost bracelet priest the anglican archbishop of Perth has described one of his own reverends as reprehensible after he refused to return a $6,500 bracelet to its owners unless they paid him half its value. This fucking priest finds this

bracelet, right? It's a very nice jewelry bracelet full of, I don't know, fucking pirate treasure. They found me bracelet. They did me bracelets. And like the couple's like, yeah, that's kind of ours. We'd like to have that back.

And he's like, sure. Three thousand two hundred fifty dollars, please. He basically ransoms it back to them. Yeah. And you know what he's doing is he's saying, look, finders keepers under the law. Basically, this guy was a lawyer and says, I had it for a certain amount of time and you did not claim it. Therefore, it is mine. However, being the nice guy that I am, I will let you claim it as a loss on your homeowner's insurance.

Therefore, obviously jacking up the cost of your homeowner's insurance indefinitely, right? You get the money from the bracelet, whatever they deem it, its value. I will take half and then sell the bracelet back to you. He says the reverend, who said he was a former lawyer, explained he was simply offering to share his windfall with the Bevins. Really? You're sharing your windfall with the Bevins. Really? You're sharing your windfall? They lost their bracelet. You're not sharing a windfall.

What he's saying is he's saying when they split the money, they come out ahead. Right there. Their bracelet. They get the bracelet back. So they're whole. And now they've given they've given me some money and they've gotten money to above and beyond what the bracelet was valued because they got the value of the bracelet. But he's neglecting the fact that they're going to have to pay more on their homeowner's insurance from now on.

And the deductible. Right. They got to pay the deductible out on their homeowner's insurance. And it's scummy. Like if you know that you found something, right? Like if somebody came to me and they were like, yeah, that thing, you know, that puppy that you found, that's my dog. Puppy? Yeah, listen, I'm going to have to go with finders keepers. You would be the losers weepers portion of our program.

Losers weepers. So I am going to eat the dog. Creepers creepers. I'm just going to eat the dog. I'm just going to eat him. Creepers, creepers. I'm just going to eat the dog. What? Yeah, I've had him for two months. I've been fattening him up the whole time. I've been fattening me up the whole time.

I've been fattening him up the whole time. It would be like finding somebody's dog and then not giving back to them and then fucking putting it to sleep. Just being like, yeah, I killed it. What? Yeah, I just fucking killed it to sleep just being like yeah i killed it what yeah i just fucking killed it i i gotta say though i couldn't imagine wearing a piece of like jewelry that is worth like a car yeah like that to me seems like you know and and to not always constantly be holding that piece of jewelry. You know, like if I had a, I drive, here's an example. I drive the city streets of Chicago with a basket that I attach to the side of my back of my bike. So it clips on there with two little clips on the back.

And one time while driving the city streets of Chicago, because the city streets of Chicago are quasi paved. Quasi paved? I sometimes hit potholes. And in the past, I have hit a pothole hard enough so that my bag fell off. Now, the bag was empty when it fell off, so there wasn't any weight in it. But every day when I travel to work, I load that bag up with three really important things. I put in it my keys, which let me into my building and are the keys to my car, my wallet, which contains most likely not a lot of money, my credit cards and my ID,

et cetera, and my phone, which is probably a, you know, it's a smartphone, it's an iPhone. So what is that? It's a last generation. So let's just value it at $300. That's probably the most expensive thing I put in that bag. Every single time I am on that bike and I am driving, I am constantly reaching back to touch to make sure the bag is there. Sure. So that if it does fall off, I have reached back within the last couple minutes. It's probably not going to be that far down the street. Hopefully some hobo hasn't walked off with it.

You know what I mean? Like that's what I'm thinking. He's riding the rails with your iPhone. Yeah, he's like, he's calling all my contacts, making fun of them. No, but the idea here is like, I recognize that I am driving down the street and have something in a precarious way

that can, at some point, you know, like if I lose it, I mean, it's a big deal to me. This is like, this dwarfs everything. I mean, it's a big deal to me. This is like, this dwarfs everything. I mean, it dwarfs half my condo, for crying out loud, $6,500. I don't have a single thing in here, when I think about it, in my condo, that is worth that much money. Yeah, if I had- It's hard for me to imagine.

If I had a $6,500 jewelry item, I would have it grafted into my skin. Like, exactly. jewelry item, I would have it grafted into my skin. Exactly. Or I would hire a private investigator to follow me around to make sure I didn't lose it. Really, this is I mean, how could you be so neglectful with something so expensive? Well, probably because you figure if you lose it

and a reverend finds it, he'll just give it back to you. Yeah, you gotta surround yourself with reverence. Do you remember that line in the Bible that says, nananana boo boo? So we're going to take a quick break, give you some information on how to contact us,

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So this story is also from aunews.yahoo.com Pakistan sisters shot for dancing in the rain. Again, this would have to go with the no joy for you prescription

in Islam. Two teenage sisters have been shot dead in an honor killing after there was a video of them smiling and dancing in the rain. So they're basically just walking, and it starts to rain, and they're like, ha-ha, we feel some sense of hope and joy. Blam-blam. Shot. Honor killing. How fucking tentative is your family's honor?

That you're like, oh, it looks like you had a happy sister and I have to kill her. Right? Yeah. Like, you're just like, our honor is such in the balance. Right. That if, if for any reason, one of the females in our family smiles, we have to murder them. Right. Because everybody will think that we're coddling our females.

You know, it's because you've got like, your family tree has like 11 saints and 10 rapists. You're like, you're always on the edge. Like you're like fucking teetering. Like they're like, people just don't know what to think. They're like, not sure about the Joneses. You know, on the one hand, the saints were pretty good. On the other hand. Oh, man.

The Saints were pretty good. On the other hand. Can I just say, Tom, that this is one of the most depressing last known photos I've ever seen. I know, because they're so happy. They look like they're having fun. They're two cute young girls having a good time, enjoying a little bit of rain, kidding around, dancing a little, you know, just being kids. And they are kids.

They're 15. It's not like they're married or whatever, disgracing their husband because they gyrated their hips while they're not in union of sex or something like that. Whatever crazy fucking thing you can rip out of the Koran to justify you murdering another human being.

They're just fucking kids, man. They're not doing anything other than being kids. And a 15-year-old and a 16-year-old lose their life because some antiquated bullshit that they have to pull out of the Quran to be like, oh, sorry, you're not allowed to dance and you're also not allowed to get wet and you're not allowed to get fat after midnight. And, you know, there's like all, like what other prescription is there? And how fearful do you have to be to be, you know, this is what this is, is a fear tactic more than anything else to be like, look, at any moment, females of this culture, we

can kill you and we can get away with it. And we can not only kill you, but be justified and not only be justified, but be revered because we have the gall to call it an honor killing. Yeah, well, you know, in this thing, it says human rights activist Atiyah Jahan. I'm sorry, I'm mispronouncing it terribly. activist Atiyah Jehan, I'm sorry, I'm mispronouncing it terribly, says the video of the sisters breaking into dance and flashing a smile at the camera became a, quote, big

issue in Chile's area, end quote. What's the issue? There's not two sides to this story. There's just not. This is not a controversial topic. There's no, hey, let's sit down and have a meaningful conversation about whether or not 15-year-old girls should be able

to smile and dance a little bit in the rain. What the fuck? And, you know, this again, how many times every other week we've been doing this, mainly since because of the Glenn Greenwald bullshit about anti-Islam and all that stuff. But, you know, here we go

again, talking about relativism and moral relativism and how this affects, oh, you can't pass judgment. Yes, I can. I absolutely can. You murdered, they murdered this girl and this other girl for no reason. They murdered them. Murdering somebody is bad as it is, but to do it for a reason that you're fabricating

because of your holy book is an evil that is not justified there's nobody i can't i can't imagine getting into an oxford style debate with some fucking mouth breather over this and be like you know here's your fucking premise a premise b premise c what the fuck premise do you have that is going to possibly convince somebody who has two fucking brain cells yeah right like well they did they did dance and it did well they did smile well they they you know the thing is that they weren't following the no joy in islam rule yeah no they they definitely done now they are definitely following yeah right islam must have been a fucking hard sell back in the day.

It's like, all right, here's this new religion. It's coming up. Got some info for you about it. All right, let's take a look at it. What's it say about joy? Joy is not allowed. Kind of hates joy, just so you know. We shot her last week.

We did. We shot joy. We shot joy. We killed Hope Joy, just so you know. We shot her last week. We did. We shot Joy. We shot Joy. We killed Hope too, so Hope didn't make it. Joy and Hope were sisters. They were smiling in the rain. They were smiling in the rain. It turns out. So we fucking shot them. Well, we wanted to preserve our honor.

Sure, absolutely. It's a big honor thing. Yeah. And Cecil, this story is so odd. This is from now.msn.com. Iran ignores swimmer's record because of revealing bathing suit. Revealing bathing suit. revealing bathing suit. Revealing bathing suit? She's wearing a 13-pound, quote, swimming costume.

I love costume. I love the idea that it's a costume. The only parts that are visible are her hands and her face. You can't see her eyes. She's wearing goggles. Right. She only looks vaguely humanoid. You know what she looks like is like a 1914 World War I pilot is what she looks like. She's like the Red Baron.

Yeah, she's like the fucking, she's the Red Baron. That's what she is. This is ridiculous. The idea that she's, you know, you're not going to count her latest achievement. And I'm going to read, you know, this article isn't very long. I'm going to read most of it here. But she's required to wear a diving suit, a full jacket and headscarf so that not a single curve of her figure is visible to men. She abides these conditions, but her last record setting swim reportedly won't count

and won't even be noted in the record books because the sports ministry said her wardrobe was too revealing. It's revealing her face. It's showing, and you know what? When you're swimming, your face is in the water. I know, right?

Like, you would have to, I don't even know what you'd have to do. I don't know, Cecil. I don't. I mean, like. Like a diving suit with the bell-plated black is the best you could do, I think. The only solution that I think that they're trying to come up with is to pile on more and more shit so these women just fucking drown. You're right.

A 13-pound swimming costume? Can you imagine putting on 13 pounds of cloth and going swimming? Have you ever swam in your full clothes? You have swam. I know you have. I have. I have. Not on purpose.

I know. It's very hard to do. Like swimming in clothes clothes. No, yeah. It's difficult. 13 pounds of shit this woman has to wear in order to swim she puts all this fucking cockamamie bullshit on because she's from a fucking cockamamie bullshit country and she swims 20 kilometers of the open waters of the Caspian Sea and instead of people being like that's fucking awesome like that is awesome we are proud to have

this person as part of our society what an achievement instead they're like vaguely human you know her name is actually too feminine so and i was totally masturbating to her name earlier so in fact i'm actually masturbating to her name Right now I'll tell you what there is no way when they say That you can like you're not allowed to see the curve Any a single curve You can't see a single curve I mean it's like a this is the frumpiest Fucking swimming outfit I've ever seen in my life

It's like wearing a fucking bed sheet I was gonna say it's like somebody Like threw her in a pillow case And only her head is sticking out She's got like this little chipmunk smile. Yeah. It's like big ass fucking black tinted goggles. You can't even see through the goggles.

What a disaster that is. It's just a fucking nightmare. And what is she supposed to do now? Like, how do you go back? Like, how did you how'd you do on your swim? Because you tell all your friends and family, I did great. But it turns out I have a shape. So what shape?

You know, it turns it doesn't make any difference. If you're just a shape, any shape like octagonal, it wouldn't make any difference. You could be these octagonal women walking around. She could be a parallelogram. I mean, that's the next step. They're going to have fucking tent poles in these things so that there's actually no human shape. They don't even fall across the body.

They're like those big hoop skirts of days of yore, you know, like where it's like enormous buttresses and shit and cantilevered out three feet. And there's going to gonna be like old timey hippo costumes or two women and a horse you know like a horse's head and one's the ass and they're walking around what more ridiculous costumes can they wear? There's like 30

of them in an orca suit they're all like working the fins on the side they all have to be like Disney characters you know what I ran? all the women are in those like big furry suits. So they don't look fake with human. But even then, like if you pick like a sexy looking chipmunk, you have to be like a fucking scorpion or something in order for this to count. You gotta be something really awful.

Dressed as a pile of vomit. for this to count. No, you've got to be something really awful. Dressed as a pile of vomit. What the hell? The only way it would work is like you're dressed as a pile of vomit

and you have to smear fresh feces on yourself. Then you can, we'll count your swim. Then you can go swimming. Yeah. Yes, if you are a giant poo-smelling vomit costume

floating in the water. If you're going to go swimming, you have to swim with this 70-pound Quran. You have to swim while reciting the entire Quran. That's what you have to do. You have to recite the entire Quran

underwater without taking a breath. Then we'll count it. Until then, it's a practice. Proselytize to the porpoises. If you can convert one porpoise. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. the porpoises. If you can convert one porpoise. So this story is from Atheist Republic, and we covered the original story some time ago.

Preacher who murdered his own daughter may get away by paying blood money. Well-known Saudi preacher Fayyad al-Ghamadi murdered his five-year-old daughter in 2012 because he had suspicions about her virginity. He may now get a pardon and escape punishment by paying blood money to the victim's mother. Isn't the victim's mother his wife? No, it's like his ex-wife, I think, or something. Oh, yeah. Turns out the marriage doesn't survive a murder.

Yeah, no, it doesn't. It turns out, no, it's really difficult. There's like the top three reasons why people get divorced. Like first one's murder. Second one's money issues. Right. Third one's trust issues. Right, yeah.

Those sorts of things. But in this case, all three of those things happen to be tied together. Money issues, trust issues, and murder. There's a part of this that they talk about that's really sort of sad. It says the child suffered severe injuries, which include a crushed skull, broken left arm, broken ribs, and broken back. Let's not forget the broken back. Her body was also showed burn injuries and extensive bruising social workers are of the opinion that she was repeatedly raped

and burnt well you know i guess if you're repeatedly repeatedly raping her then maybe you would have questions about her virginity yeah but wouldn't the questions be answered like they're not questions at that point i mean I guess questions is a bad way to put it. You would, yeah, I guess. You would know. You would, you know, it's like you've solved for X at that point. You know, I don't know. We talked about this guy back in 2012, and he's a fucking deplorable monster, right?

He's a sociopathic, murderous, torturing monster. So that's who that guy is as an individual. And that's just he confessed to it. He fucking confessed. Sure. Yeah. No, he's despicable. Awful, awful human. If he lit on fire right now, no one should piss it out. Right. Too good for him. Yeah. But what kills me is this idea about blood money. Right. Like it's a license to kill. What, what it means is

that if you have enough money, you can just go out and fucking murder people. And it makes no difference at all. You just, you are immune to the law. If blood money is a real thing in your culture, you just get to fucking thumb your nose at it. You can walk up to somebody, how much are they worth? Throw down the cash and fucking kill whoever you want. And that's a society that just says our people are disposable. And if you're rich enough, you can just buy one and do whatever you want. You want to rape them? Who cares? You want to kill them? Who cares? Pay up. It's just a commodity. Yeah, no, you're absolutely 100 percent right. And there's a reason why we don't do that sort of thing here in the States, right? There's a reason why you can't buy your way out of jail. You can't buy your way out of drafting into the army, even though we don't draft anymore. But

when we did, you can't buy your way out of it. Although several people did in some ways, but you can't pay someone else to do it, right? Yeah. And you can't pay someone else to serve your prison time if you get convicted or something like that. So there's a reason why you do that, and it's so that you're held accountable, so that your wealth can't serve as a buffer to any sort of punitive measures that the state would have against you. And in this case, that's exactly what's happening. The wealth is a buffer. The wealth is going to protect him, and it's going to make – if she takes the money, which she may, depending on she's saying, no, she wants him dead. But if she decides, you know, well, maybe instead I want the money.

Well, then the guy gets gets off. Oh, because his wealth provides that opportunity to go out and be a fucking completely deplorable human being again and again and again and again. And that's, you know, look, you know, we're talking to we are talking, you know, there's three straight stories about Islam here. But again, this is one of those things. It's like there is no moral good here. There's no moral good. You can't on the moral landscape, as Sam Harris says, this is definitely not a peak for anyone but this guy. And it's totally indefensible. You know, you look at like this. This is a society where this woman has no resources. She doesn't have access to her own resources.

So this guy is thrown in jail. I don't know if he's I mean, he's the father of this child, but he's evidently not financially supporting this woman and the other children. So then she becomes destitute. So he again regains a power and control position so that he can force her to accept blood money just to stay alive. I mean, it's it's a despicable system. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers?

I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. And this story, Cecil, comes from rightwingwatch.org. I love this. Right Wing Watch is my favorite home for crazy. Swanson links gay kiss and women wearing hats and pants. Hello, my baby. Hello, my darling.

You know, here they have female motorists now. Oh, here they have female motorists now. Aluga. To the Colorado forest fires on generations. Forest fires? I know. Forest fires. It's like women wear hats. Fuck.

No wonder God is burning our states. This shit is so fucking crazy. Colorado pastors Kevin Swanson and Dave Buhner addressed the forest fires hitting their state. They wondered why God was punishing Colorado with the fires and specifically targeting the heavily conservative city of Colorado Springs. And Cecil, they jumped through some hoops to get to why Colorado Springs is being targeted. Yeah, absolutely. Why don't we actually listen to that part right now where they're talking about it? Why Colorado Springs?

I mean, understand that Colorado itself is a state that has been begging for God's judgment. How do we do that? Well, we were the first state to make abortion legal. You can murder your baby as long as it's in the womb. 1967. Governor Love, a Republican. Two ironies there. Yeah. Not just one. Well. The man's name was Governor Love, a Republican. Two ironies there. Yeah.

Not just one. Well. The man's name was Governor Love. Right. And he's responsible for killing more babies than probably anybody in the history of this country. Because he's the guy who started it. He was the icebreaker. And he's a Republican.

And he's a Republican. Our legislative session opened up this year. And their very first order of business, their most pressing order of business, the order of business they had to get, like the very first day, was to pass a civil union bill, which is an uncivil bill. Dave, I mean, when you have a state

where the House leadership is performing a homosexual act on the front page of the Denver Post two months ago. Does God read the Denver Post? Do you think he picks up a copy of the Denver Post? I do. I don't think it's delivered to him, but he gets it. He gets it. Okay, God gets the Denver Post.

No, I read the online version. I read Denver Post every day. I'm like Sarah Palin. I read all the newspapers. I read all, except for I'm omnipresent. Leg up on Sarah Palin there, huh? You get to be omniscient, so you get to read all the papers at the same time. You know, look, the thing about this is what they're saying is not a big deal, right?

This is basic Christian right vomit that they're spitting out. It's how they're saying it that makes me kind of physically ill. What we have here is House leadership, a homosexual act on the front page of the Denver Post two months ago. And it's just like that pause there, that sort of, can you believe they're doing this? And he's just, you know, like that pause there, that sort of, can you believe they're doing this? And it's like, look, man, you know, the idea of first that, that, you know, you're, he's dogging on abortion and he, you know, he, he calls it murder. He says, you know, as long as, you know, you can murder your baby as long as it's in a womb. It's not a baby.

Okay. So let's not get, let's not, you know, you're using language that doesn't make any sense because things in Petri dishes aren't babies. And they can take – there are ways in which you can inseminate things outside of the womb. And it can be a fetus outside of the womb. You wouldn't – if you looked at it, you wouldn't be like, oh, what a cute little baby. You'd be like, oh, what a cute little compa cells. And it's not like murder in the tradition. Nobody's taking a steak knife to it.

Right. Nobody is doing like the guy in the previous story and burning it and breaking its arm because it doesn't even have arms yet. Right. So that's just the first piece of this. But then the second part where he's talking about homosexuality, you can just tell how much they just loathe other people. Yeah, the hate is strong within these.

It's just palpable. It's more of a disgust. I really get a sense of just contempt and disgust. And that's the justification. Like that's why it happened in Colorado Springs. Like really? Because of some shit? Like your argument is basically like because of some shit from 1967,

God's just like, oh, I totally was going to, oh, I fucking spaced out. Man, did I oversleep? Oh, man. I put it on my iCal. I totally fucking forgot about it. It like wakes up. My notifications were on silent. That's why.

Did I burn Colorado Springs yet? Fuck. Oh, okay. Burn it now. Fuck. Yeah. No, I know it's been like fucking like almost whatever, like 60 years. Who cares?

Just fucking burn it now. We'll get to it. It's good. 30, 40. It's fine. 45 years. You it. It's good. 30, 40, 45 years. You know, plus or minus. Yeah, right. Like, we don't want to hit, like, Denver. Like, sir.

He doesn't have any advisors up there, you know? Like, sir, that seems, like, kind of crazy. I mean, they're supporting you now. Oh, yeah. I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, I mean, they're supporting you now. Oh, yeah. I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, I mean, I'm fucking still mad about 67. No, but hold on now.

Let's listen to the second bit here, because I think this is where he gets into why certain areas are being burned. So let's listen to the second bit, because we don't want to pass judgment on this guy, right? Well, I do. Colorado is asking for judgment. Yeah. And God's delivering it in short pieces. He's very gracious. Oh, yeah gracious that he hasn't destroyed the whole state yet i think that's an act of grace but then the question is of all of colorado why colorado springs i mean colorado springs is the christian mecca why not wipe out boulder or denver i mean those people are in more radical

rebellion oh yeah oh yeah the democrats up there there. And the answer is judgment begins in the house of God. Yeah. Coming back from Australia, you know, I'm stuck in 14 hours of these visual presentations of sitcoms and stuff on 17 screens in front of me. And Dave, I mean, I've never seen so many breasts in all my life. The immodesty going on in our society is far worse, far worse, Dave, than it was back when Cheers and Family Ties and The Cosby Show was playing on 1980s sitcoms. Every form of aberrant sexuality and women's breasts are shown in front of me almost nonstop for 14 hours.

What's breasts? They have such an oppressive, horrible, horrible world. And so many of our young girls in our Christian churches are running down to Walmart and buying the same clothes. Dave, these are the sorts of things that I'm bringing out in front of people. Impressive, maybe. How are we going to repent of the sexual sin that is paraded in front of us in the wider culture? Why do we have to submit to these sexual sins again and again? Right up and drogeny, Dave.

How many young boys are running out and doing the metrosexual thing with the skinny pants and the little fairy shoes and they're working on the gender blender for themselves and they don't want to look like a man and yet God is just so upset

and hates that men are not manly in their approach. And, of course, 1 Corinthians 6 speaks about homosexuality and feminine behavior and feminine dress for men. God does not want men to be androgynous and feminine-like in their approach. He gave them facial hair for a reason. These are the sorts of things that I preached yesterday. I can't even get there. I said, okay, you could just say, well, all of the unisex, homosexual,

metrosexual stuff that's out in the world is so bad, so bad, so bad. But we're not going to repent of anything. We're not going to look different. We're not going to bear any fruits of repentance in the way that we dress, in the way that we interact. I got to stop this guy because this is just too much to talk about. It's a lot here. But, you know, I want to talk about first his reaction where he's like, oh, yeah, the Democrats up there. Right.

Yeah, they're Democrats. I mean, that's that's just evil. And they should you know, they should definitely why not wipe out Boulder? Because that's where the Democrats are. Well, you remember when it said in the Bible, thou shalt not be a Democrat. Yeah. No, I remember. It's in there. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. And and on Hillbilly God's pickup, there is a couple of bumper stickers that are a little negative towards Democrats. Hillbilly God's got one of those calvins peeing on a democrat like it's just the only good democrats a dead democrat or something like yeah it's right by the truck balls hanging off exactly it's right next to his gun rack that

sits in the back there but yeah i like that but then i also love the idea that when he's talking about he's like oh my god the sexual immorality is even worse than it was during Cheers, Family Ties and the Cosby Show. Those were your barometer for for, you know, sexual aberrant behavior was the Cosby Show, Family Ties and Cheers. Since when do we define an era, by the way, by the sitcoms? Like, is that like, we don't talk about things in terms of decades anymore. It's like the Seinfeld era. Right, like, oh, yeah, you remember back in the 70s?

No. The MASH era? Was that? Was the MASH era? Yeah, I remember the MASH era, sure. Yeah, do you remember that? That was great. And then we were like, and then that happened during that 70s show reign, right? I remember the laugh-in days. Those were great.

What the fuck kind of... You don't define... That's television. Those are just TV shows. He doesn't understand. I've talked about this before. There's a group of people that thinks Mayberry was real. Yeah. And I listen to this and before. Like, there's a group of people that thinks Mayberry was real. Yeah.

And I listen to this and it's like, wait a minute. Maybe he really does think Mayberry was real. And like Cosby was a thing, not just a thing that was written. And I want people acted out. I got to say the attack like he's like, I've never seen so many women's breasts. How dare they? And she's like, dude, it's a thing to feed kids. Like, that's what the

breast is there for you know like the breast is there you know for two reasons one it's for sexual attractiveness the second is for feeding kids you're like both of those are fucking useful things it's not like it's a useless thing like you and he's on airplane. It's not like these are just like there's not like 17 screens of hardcore porn. They're just probably watching movies. And he's like, I've never seen so many breasts in all my life. I feel bad for the guy.

I feel bad. A couple websites. I saw more breasts than that. I'm like the fucking army. It's like we do more by 9 o'clock than most people do all day. It's like, I've seen more titties by 9 a.m. than this guy has in his entire life until his recent flight. I love how he says androgyny, too. Yeah, he doesn't.

He's like, androgyny. Androgyny. What does that even mean? And then the idea, too, is like, men have to be men and blah, blah, blah. And you're like, OK, what? That's why we have facial hair? What does that even mean? If you don't grow a beard, you're not even a dude.

Why do women have hairy legs, then? No. I mean, like, no. Quiet. Shh. No. Quiet. They have hair on their parts of their body that they shave off.

Some women have facial hair. Absolutely they do. Like all women have some facial hair. That's it's just socially accepted to pluck it or dye it or fucking something. Or it's so fine. You're so faint. You can't see it. Whatever it is.

Virtually invisible or whatever. Like we're fucking mammals. We're covered in hair, dude. Yeah. That's a thing that mammals have. That's a invisible or whatever. Like we're fucking mammals. We're covered in hair, dude. That's a thing that mammals have. That's a thing that happens. It's not like you go out in, you know, and the apes and there's, you know, like the bearded apes and then the females have no beards. No beards. Well, let's finish out this feminism bit here.

Et cetera, et cetera. this feminism bit here. Et cetera, et cetera. And then I brought out the whole thing on feminism and how feminism has corrupted our women today. I brought out this quote from Forbes Magazine,

July 27, 2012. It's hard to deny the key role that fashion has played in the women's movement. Ms. Magazine points to New York City women, garment workers in the early 20th century

wore hats to signify that they were earning their own money and thus financially independent. Women in the 1980sth century wore hats to signify that they were earning their own money and thus financially independent. Women in the 1980s adopted a male style dress, ties, tailored skirt suits, shoulder pads in order to gain a foothold in the male dominated world of business. And Carol Moseley Brown, the first African American woman elected to the U.S. Senate, wore a pantsuit on the Senate floor in 1993, ending the Senate's ban on women wearing slacks there. My question was, do you resist feminist trends? Do you argue with it?

Do you find ways to oppose it? Or do you just succumb to it and just kowtow to feminism? Dave, I'm afraid this stuff is all over the place in our nice little evangelical, reformed, conservative, fundamentalist churches. Evan, my main text is Last Lord's Day. God is a consuming fire. What does that even mean?

I have no idea. God is a consuming fire. God is a consuming fire? You know, getting, okay, first off, it's Carol Moseley Braun, fuckhead. Just because she's African American doesn't mean you can call her Carol Mosley Brown.

You dick. OK. But secondly, it's like she was elected to U.S. Senate, wore a pantsuit on the Senate floor in 1993, ending the Senate's ban on women wearing slacks there. Nineteen ninety three.

What do they take their fucking horse and buggy to fucking Senate House? What the fuck was happening until 1993 that they couldn't wear pants in the Senate? Senators! Pants. Like, here we are in 2013

worrying about who is wearing pants. And we're like, to get worked up about it. We have to go back 20 fucking years. 20 years, see? So we have to look back 20 years and be like, man, it was a better time back when men had beards and women didn't wear pants. Women didn't wear pants.

Like, what are you fucking... And this is why Colorado's on fire? Yeah. God is an all-consuming fire? Then run to meet your maker, you stupid shit. No kidding, right? He's right there. And, you know, the other thing that drives me crazy about this is when he's reading this article from Forbes,

and he says, he says here, he says, Miss Magazine points to New York City women garment workers in the early 20s who wore hats that signified they were earning their own money. Listen to how that guy says it. If you didn't hear before, rewind it just a bit and listen to how he says earning their own money. And I've never heard anybody say that with more venom. Don't the conservatives want people to earn their own money? Well, they want they want white males to earn all the money and they want everybody else to earn none of the money. I mean, that's just that's just fucking that's just the truth. That's just the fucking reality of it. You know, the idea that that you could look at something like that and say that that that's

a bad thing, like you like we're just never going to be on the same page. Like I am never going to be looking at the world and saying, like, we both want the same things out of the world as this guy. Anybody who can say, like, man, when those fucking women wore hats as a symbol of their independence as individuals, that was a step back? When the fucking senators had to fucking change the rules so she could wear pants. Why was there even a rule? Did she have to wear a fucking knee-length dress?

And why was the rule, like, why is a rule even imposed? That doesn't even make any sense. It doesn't be like, okay, ladies, we're going to let you be senators, but we're going to control how you dress. Right. Yeah, you got to make sure that you're wearing a very nice, you know, just something. Shoulder pads, you know, something. Nice dress.

You got to. Fuck you, dude. You should be happy there's women in the workplace. Like, who wants to work in the sausage fest? Oh, God. I hate this guy so much, though. The way they talk. He's a terrible human being.

And the way they talk about these things and how they, you know, how every moment the venom is dripping off their tongue about feminism at the end when he's like, do you resist feminist trends? No. What the fuck? What does that even mean? Feminist trends. Yeah. I mean, I think it means like, are you one of those fucking head of household? Beat your wife assholes we talked about last week. That's what it means

um this is and i'm but in love with both of you. But I'm calling specifically to tell you that just now I was in L.A. and just now I was driving and there's this huge billboard on sunset of this very attractive, huge billboard on the sunset of this very attractive, you know, arguably attractive young woman in, you know, a nice top and blue hair for very pretty. And the billboard says, Actors and Talent for Christ. And apparently it's an advertisement for Actors and Talent for Jesus. And I just thought, you know, I just had to call you and tell you, really it's an excuse just to talk to you guys.

Please just ask my advice and don't deal with it. Okay, anyway, thanks, bye. Hey guys, here's your latest update from the Middle East. Saudi authorities on Wednesdays carried out a court sentence against a Nigerian man by cutting off his hand with a sword after he was convicted of theft in the Gulf Kingdom, the official press agency reported. The unidentified man was sentenced to amputation of his right hand by a criminal court before the verdict was upheld by an appeals court and then by the Supreme Court. The official press agency said King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

had endorsed the verdict to sever the man's hand from the wrist. It said the sentence was carried out in the western Saudi town of Mecca, where he perpetrated his crime. It did not elaborate on the theft. So thanks a lot and stay tuned to Cognitive Dissidence for all your favorite amputation and beheading news. Have a nice day. Cecil, I mean, Cecil, for real.

When your society in 2013 uses swords to fix problems. I know, man. Swords! God. Swords! Swords should hang up in dork basements. That's what swords are for. Yeah.

When you're a sword, every problem's a hand, though. I got this awesome sword. I can't wait to cut a hand off. It's total dork basement, though. That's exactly what it is. It's a sword. It's a fucking sword. You may as well commit, like, hit somebody over the head with a fucking

morning star. It's ridiculous. So we got some email this week. It's a short week, so obviously if you sent something after Monday, chances are it didn't make it into the show. So we thank you for email. Hopefully we're going to cut down

some of the email because we're going to get a bunch between now and the next show. So we're going to cut some of the email down, but we wanted to make sure that we got some of it in this show. So this one, we're starting out here. We got Michael sent us in silly things he used to pray for. I'm going to read it. He says, I prayed almost every night and sometimes during the day

that Cindy Crawford or Kathy Ireland would visit me. Sometimes I prayed so hard that I would fall asleep afterward. You know, I have also prayed in a similar way. It happens to the best of us. Yeah. And to the worst of us. We got an email from Meredith and she says

glory hole and then she puts at the top, isn't that the title of every email? And you would be surprised, Meredith, most of them are inboxed. Most of them. It's glory hole. That's just the title of all the emails. It's glory hole, glory hole, glory hole. The person who did Who's That Guy on the Other Side

of the Glory Hole really changed the scope of this show in big, big, big ways. But Meredith says, Tom and Cecil, I found your podcast a month or two ago after learning that another podcast was on our show, and I'm not going to say who they are. She's a big fan of that podcast.

But after catching up on your archives, I feel your show is better than another podcast where we had some people on from that podcast. You guys can go back and listen to the archives and figure out which one that is. I really enjoy the discussions of you two have and appreciate that not only that I am not the only one wondering what's wrong with the world today. She says specifically, Cecil, I wanted to thank you for being it's hard to be an out atheist. It's also hard to be an out child free person. It's great to hear you talking candidly about your new life decision not to have children and and your viewpoints on taxes, educational vouchers, et cetera. And she says her husband

and her are also child free. And, you know, it's true. There is there is some pushback in some weird ways about being child free and in our society, especially in Western society. I don't know what it's like in other countries, but in the States, there's some weird pushback, especially from the older generation about deciding that you don't want children and having, you know, people sort of, you know, people people say some weird, stupid shit all the children and having, you know, people sort of, you know, people, people say some weird, stupid shit all the time. And, you know, people who are, who have kids have to deal with some of the similar questions. Like I'll get questions like, so when are you having kids? Or, oh, you'll change your mind. Or, you know, oh, when you have kids,

you'll change your blah, blah, blah, blah. They say, they make a lot of assumptions about my life, but you know, people do the same thing with people who are married with children, too. They'll be like, so when are you having your next one? Yeah, well, not for me. Instead, they're like, you had a kid? Yeah. You? Quick, call DCFS. They're amazed somebody would procreate with me, first of all.

It's very true. It's very true. And shocked I would have the stamina to finish. Yeah. It's amazing what medical technology can do these days. We got an email from Dave Thomas who wrote, I'm going to read it here. He said, this is Dave Thomas from Little Hampton. I'm writing this in American accent so you can understand.

Thanks, Dave. We really, I think that's the only way that we can communicate because I've heard you talk. It would be awesome to have a beer with Dave. It would be great. And just pretend you understand the entire time. You're just nodding along. Do you know what would be awesome, actually, is to have a beer with all of our British listeners

and not have any fucking idea what's happening the whole night. Like, go out to the pub with them and not have a fucking clue what anybody's talking about the whole time. You know, I mean, I'll be honest. We got some joke emails about how we can't understand the British accent. Dave's accent is very different than Mike Marsh's. Sure. I understand Mike Marsh just fine.

I understand Andy just fine. I understand Mike from Skeptics with a K just fine. But, you know, no offense, Dave, but I just, you know, some, there's certain parts of England that when they talk, I just don't, I just don't understand. I'm sorry. I feel the same way about big swatches of America, too. So. No, absolutely. Absolutely.

And there's, you know, there's times when I'll talk to somebody, you know, there's people from New York or California or even, you know, definitely in the South that, you know, you can't understand a word they're saying. Louisiana. I watched, I watched some of that. Do you ever watch that show where they just shoot alligators for no reason? You know what I'm talking about? I know, but it sounds like a great show. It's like, it's like a bunch of like dudes in the bayou.

They're alligator. I don't know if it's fishing or hunting. It's like fish hunting, hunt fishing. I don't know what it is. It's not a fish. I know, but they string like fishing line. It's a reptile. It's a reptile fishing. They have to subtitle the show.

Oh, yeah. And they just play like, what the? It sounds like Justin Wilson. I guarantee. Little bit of honing. It's awesome. It's fucking terrific. They all talk like that, too.

That's fucking great. But anyway, Dave Thomas sent in his, Dave sent in a bunch of stuff, a bunch of images. There's a cubicle from a pub in Brighton that has glory hole pictures on the wall, and he sent an image of his friend Ricky who he insulted. And this is seriously one of the best images I've ever seen of someone. I'm looking at the full size of this, and I think you really have to click it to appreciate what we're looking at here. I was considering setting this as the contact for you on my phone. Dave, if you could post this somewhere else.

I don't feel safe posting someone else's photo, but if Dave posts it somewhere, we'll make sure to point you to it. But thanks, Dave, for sending an email. And, you know, making sure we understood it. We got an email from Rachel. It said, the wonderful guys at Reasonable Doubts posted this on their Facebook page, and it's fisting

and God's will? Yeah, this is from a website, Sex in Christ, Sexuality According to the Word of God. Fist in Christ. Fisting is just one of many subsections. I browsed through this and it is quite awesome. It's hilarious.

I just want to read to give you an idea of this very briefly. Just the headings for the fisting section for Sex in Christ. The fist of might. Powerful, yet gentle. Fist.

Gentle. Hold on. Hold on a second. Have you? I mean, that hole is not made for a fist. Gentle. There's no way it could be gentle. Gentle fisting.

Unless it's a baby fist or something. Fisting as an act of faith. I like that. Role reversal. I'm not a fan of that one. This website is hilarious. Yeah, it's called sexinchrist.com.

I'm not going to put a link to it, but you guys can find it pretty easily. It's one word, sexinchrist. Thank you, Rachel, for sending it in. Chelsea sends us an email. She says, I just listened to episode 104, and I thought it was interesting that in the episode that you not only had a story of a lady who thought she could live off the sun, but also pointed out the failure of abstinence-only education and compared it to someone who would say,

the only way to not gain weight was not to eat. I'm a registered dietitian, and here are tons of absolutely crazy diets and methods to lose weight. The fact is that there are many people who think starvation-like diets are a totally reasonable way to lose weight. It's so funny because there's a lot of different types of nutters out there and the food nutters are they're prevalent and they get they get a lot of traction because you know they're i don't think that there's a lot of really big skeptical activist dietitian type people out

there yeah the food nutters are uh like a deep and like, like they, they, they're aggressive about their food nuttery. Like, I mean, those, some of those fucking people are just, and you know, when you run into one, I mean, you, cause they'll fucking tell you food nutters are not quiet about their nut. And then there's, you know, I mean, there's all the fasting things that they do. So there's the fasting with the, like the lemon juice and the cayenne pepper or whatever. Right. And then there's also the, you know, the juicing diets and then there's the, you know, and then there's all the other nuttery that goes along with dieting because, you know, the difficulty here is, is that, you know, we live in a culture now where we have access to

calorie rich foods at our fingertips, no matter where we're at. You know what I mean? Like no matter what we're doing, any, you know, and a small, like a relatively small amount of money, um, you know, that, that you have, you know, we're not spending half of our paychecks on food, you know, for most Americans, depending on, you know, obviously your income level, but, you know, if you're middle class or whatever, you're not spending an immense amount of money on food. You're spending, you know, a good portion of it, but not a ton. You know, the poorer you are, the more percentage of your money you're spending on food because, you know, food doesn't change depending on your income, the class of person you are.

But, you know, there's there is that, you know, there is that that ability to get calorie rich foods and and we consume the shit out of them. And then we all look for the magic bullet to get rid of it. The magic wand to say, okay, I want to get rid of this flab that I have on me because we have this also

sort of unhealthy obsession starting to become unhealthy obsession with, you know, not only do we have this unhealthy obsession with food, but we also have this unhealthy obsession with starting to become unhealthy obsession with, you know, you know, not only do we have this unhealthy obsession with food, but we also have this unhealthy obsession with starting to lose weight. And that's another thing I think that's, that's starting to become more in vogue now too. And I think that, uh, that, you know, we are all looking for that fad diet. That's going to be able to knock out that, you know, the drink grapefruit juice only, or whatever it is that you're learning

about. And I'm sure that, you know, as a dietician, you have to deal with that, you know, drink grapefruit juice only or whatever it is that you're learning about. And I'm sure that, you know, as a dietician, you have to deal with that every day. Somebody coming in and being like, oh, I heard about this, you know, cheese pizza diet. Right. It's supposed to be amazing. Cheese pizza diet. Yeah. I've been on that for 15 years.

What are you kidding me? I've been doing that. When I roll up, I actually roll up a tombstone in a Red Baron pizza. That's not bad. That's a good idea. It doubles up the healthy. Yeah, no, that's good. I actually fill that up like a burrito and then eat it.

I just fill the whole thing with chorizo. My hands are completely red after the entire process. Hang on, I need another spoonful of Crisco. Yeah. So we got the last email we got is a park dedicated to, and you guessed it, there's two images of the Glory Hole. It's a park called Glory Hole Park. It was sent in to us by Sin Meyer, and we're going to post these as the images for this week's show when we post it next Monday. Tom, we're going to be on the road for the next show,

and I think the next show, a big portion of the next show, is going to be email, us talking about email and stuff, because we're going to be on the road. We're probably not going to have a ton of time to do a lot of searches for stories. So we're probably going to tell you kind of what Tam's like, and we're also probably going to talk a little bit about some stories, and then we're probably going to read a little email, and then we're going to call it a night,

because Tom and I will be way too drunk to be podcasting in the first place. I'm actually getting drunk now in anticipation just to prep it out. Never say I don't do my research. So we're going to end the show today. Last week I forgot to mention that

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